Bucs Come Up Short Again, Chicago Bears Still In Hibernation After the Bye, Hoosiers Are Legit, and Dodgers Win The World Series!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:03] Speaker B: Welcome to source from the Sofa podcast. Aaron as well as myself from are in for tonight's episode. We're recording Monday night, November 4, the eve before our general election for president and right after the Monday Night Football game where Buccaneers could have, in my opinion, pull out a victory against the Kansas City Chiefs and Kansas City Chiefs, too much of my dismay, pull off another victory. They're 8, 0, undefeated. Somehow, some way, they find a way to keep on winning. I'm not gonna hate on that, but I do hate the Chiefs. Mahomes, he looked okay. He had some really cool throws. Did they really need DeAndre Hopkins? You know, he looked really good today there. You have good chemistry, which is even more frustrating. Let's start from there. Monday Night Football and then we'll recap the rest of week nine, which was, I don't know, kind of interesting, kind of uneventful. All the favorites, I believe most of them actually won this past week. [00:01:11] Speaker C: One one dog outright winner. And the one we. You least suspect too. Really? [00:01:16] Speaker B: Yeah, most definitely. So let's get with it. So now, Bucks 4 and 5. Baker Mayfield, all his weapons are out, but he looks pretty good today. In those wet conditions. They seem like they had a pretty good handle. They always came in clutch, but they couldn't come through as Kansas City scored. What was it like the two last touchdowns? Right, Unanswered? [00:01:40] Speaker C: Well, yeah, Kansas City was down 17, 10, got two unanswered touchdowns. Tampa comes back, scores that touchdown with what, 20, 25, 23 seconds, whatever it was there. [00:01:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:55] Speaker C: You know, Rome, we were talking about this before we went on the pod earlier this afternoon while we were breaking down weekend games and discussing what we were going to bring up on the show. And two point conversion, end of game came up. We saw two teams this week, Patriots and now add Tampa Bay, get touchdowns essentially on the last couple seconds of a game. Failed to go for two and both end up on the losing end going forward. I think you're going to see coaches looking at this, especially when you're on the road. You got momentum, you're not expected to win. Tampa, I mean, they're fighting for their season, given the way they lost. I mean, Atlanta, Atlanta's win over the Cowboys looks even more big given that they've already beaten Tampa twice. They're 4, 0 in the division now. They got a. They're 6 and 3, Tampa's 4 and 5. Tampa's banged up. You mentioned Rome. The schedule is going to be brutal. Brutal. Coming up against the 49ers, Alpha by at 4 and 4. And the only way the 49ers get in the playoffs is the win division. They got no choice. Whoever wins the division is going in from that division. Top loss for Tampa, man, For sure. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Niners are trying to go on a run as we discussed off air, but Bucks, man, ever since they're 51, 27 victory over the Saints. They lost a tough game against the Ravens. Honestly, they were coming back, but they almost had a chance to send it to overtime. Tough loss against the Falcons, their second defeat of the year. So they're done. And then now a tough loss against the Chiefs. Now they're four and five. They were four and two and look, look at them now. They're over. Under. I think was. Man, I think it was like eight or nine was something like that. I had them winning the division. [00:03:34] Speaker C: It was anywhere from as low as seven and a half to eight and a half. Nine. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And tough stretch coming up. It's gonna be. Yeah, actually, you know what? There's some promise, actually after the 49ers. [00:03:47] Speaker C: They got a tough schedule. Dude, Giants, Giants is not an easy game. [00:03:51] Speaker B: It's not Raiders, Chargers, that's tough. [00:03:55] Speaker C: Cowboys at Cowboys. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Cowboys. What's going to be left by then. [00:04:01] Speaker C: That's true. [00:04:02] Speaker B: But I mean, Panthers and then Saints, it might be blessings, but man, they might only get like four wins left in this. [00:04:09] Speaker C: I mean, you're looking at. I'm looking at their schedule, right? [00:04:12] Speaker B: That's like an 8:19 right there. [00:04:14] Speaker C: I see four games that they should. Should win once you get them to eight. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:18] Speaker C: I mean, they should beat Carolina, Raiders, Vegas, Carolina again in New Orleans at home right now. I mean, Mike Evans should be back for the Charger game, but you know the Chargers gonna be in the playoff hunt and that's going to mean a lot for them Cowboys. What are they gonna have to play for? Who knows, Dak? Who knows how long he's gonna be out? 60 million bucks. He's got no reason to even force himself back. Put him on the R. He's done for the year. [00:04:45] Speaker B: He's done. [00:04:46] Speaker C: He's done. He's cashing in the check. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Oh, man, I. I love that meme that was going around. He got caught in the sideline saying we effing suck. At least he. At least he knows it. Yeah, I think everyone knows it except Jerry Jones. [00:05:01] Speaker C: I think Jerry knows it, but he's just. He. He doesn't want to pull back the curtain and look at what the Cowboys have become under his watch because not only is he the owner, he's a general manager, so that's even a double tough pill to swallow. [00:05:12] Speaker B: I heard somewhere on the radio today where they, where the Cowboys are today. They might be where the Raiders were when Al Davis was in the tail end of his career, you know, hanging on, just old man syndrome. Just being stubborn, running the team his way, running to the ground, basically. And Jerry's doing the same thing. It must click when, like when you're 81 or 82. If I'm still running things, Aaron, when I'm 81, 82, just take the keys away from me. Just kick me off the cliff. [00:05:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, if I make it to 81 or 82, that might be a miracle in itself, so. [00:05:48] Speaker B: I know. [00:05:49] Speaker C: But yeah, that's a good take. You know, I didn't think about the Raiders and all that, but wasting money on Dag Prescott? We've talked about this a lot. I don't know so much on the pod, but off air, I wouldn't have given Dag 60 million because he's just not a. He's not a Super bowl winning quarterback. And now, honestly, given where the Cowboys are at, if I'm the Detroit Lions, I'm calling up Jerry and I'm saying, what do you want from Micah Parsons? Give me Micah Parsons. What do you want for him? I'm calling up and I'm inquiring about him. You lost Aiden Hutchinson. Detroit's dominating Cowboys, could use another first or second round pick. I'm making the call and seeing if Jerry's interested and talking trade. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Knowing Micah Parsons, Jerry might trade him to his own radio station. Get that guy that he cussed out a few weeks ago and put him on there full time on there. Since that's all Mike has been doing anyways. Rating top 10 quarterbacks. Doesn't even put his own quarterback on there, by the way. If you ever caught his pod. [00:06:46] Speaker C: Hey, hey, I gotta agree. I gotta agree. Dag don't make the list, man. [00:06:51] Speaker B: Yeah, you don't make the list. [00:06:52] Speaker C: You don't make the list. [00:06:55] Speaker B: Anyways, back to Bucks. Tough loss, man. Tough loss. We'll see how they end up. But we did say after week, after this week, week nine, we're gonna find out maybe. Like what? Which One of these 3 and 4, 3 and 5 teams might make a second half push. I thought we saw a couple that might make that push in the second half of the season. But before we get there though, we kind of talked about this on the phone. And you're right. One fourth of the league Only has two wins, which is pretty impressive. Granted, like typically like the top pick of every year. The draft typically only have like two or three wins anyways. So honestly, there's like some parity this year. The fact that everyone has two wins already is good. But I can't remember the ones the last time we've been able to knock out this many teams. Just let's scratch them off in the playoffs. They're not making it. [00:07:48] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, nine teams with two wins and then you've got a lot of teams right there at that 4 and 5, 4 and 4 kind of bubble. Yeah, Tampa's there. I mean, the Bears big loss going to 4 and 4, basically ruining their chances in that NFC north because the next. The next worst record is, you know, 6 and 6 and 3 Green Bay. So they got to play them twice. They're not going to beat the packers twice here. [00:08:16] Speaker B: I'm pulling up real quick. You know, by the way, tough loss gets the packs and they're still 6 and 3. They're still looking nice. Vikings etch out a win. Yeah, man. [00:08:28] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, packers have. Packers schedule has been brutal. They got three losses here against the Eagles in Brazil, a game that could have went either way. You know, Love got hurt the drive before the Hail Mary where they brought in, you know, Malik Willis, a throw that Hail Mary that ended up being a sack. And then you've got the loss against the Lions this week. And then when Jordan Love came back after missing two and a half games against Minnesota, they lost that game. So packers have had a brutal schedule. Give them a lot of credit being 6 and 3 going into a buy. I think given all the injuries that they've had in the defense, a secondary and a Jordan Love. I. I'm happy and thrilled if you're a Packer fan. Going into the by six and three. No doubt about that. [00:09:11] Speaker B: So we'll save like the Bears segment when Jason gets back. Wherever he is, sources are that he's still stuck in Arizona. He attended the game with his wife. Still finding information. [00:09:21] Speaker C: Joshua's Tree, man. I've heard there's been sightings of him at Joshua's Tree. So he. He might be making his way through the desert there. Sometimes some. You know, there's nothing like the desert to clear a man's thoughts. And Jason needs that for sure. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Right now. He's doing his own ayahuasca trip to find a meaning behind the Bears offseason moves. Whether that was keeping ERA flu. You can't spell loss without Eber Floss that was in. [00:09:46] Speaker C: And he's just maybe taking a quote from the Bears owner, the real Bear, or Bears owner Aaron Rodgers? [00:09:51] Speaker B: Rogers. [00:09:52] Speaker C: Embrace. Embrace the darkness. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Darkness, baby. Embrace the darkness. Which dude, like, it's so tough being a Bears fan. And I, you know, there's Ryan Russell. I'm a big fan of Ryan Rillo. He declared himself a Bears fan this year, which no one knew. Bill Simmons didn't know. No one knew. And he came on his podcast like, oh, by the way, I'm a Bears fan now. I. I really believe the hype on Kayla Williams, all this stuff, blah, blah, put. Me, personally, I kind of don't see all the hype between Caleb Williams I had in, like, his senior year. I thought he was, like, up and down, kind of emotional, et cetera, et cetera. After that loss against Washington, Russello's on his pod. He's like, I can't do it anymore. I'm out. I don't want to be a Bears fan anymore. It just took him seven weeks to go in and out. [00:10:37] Speaker C: Well, for sure. For sure. He's off the bandwagon after that loss against Arizona. [00:10:41] Speaker B: You know what? I just got word Jason's gonna join us in five minutes so we can come back on the Bears topic. But, yeah, it's gonna be really good. We'll save that in the Bears. [00:10:54] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure, man. I mean, Jason just. He can. He can take the floor from there. [00:10:59] Speaker B: Nice. But here, let's go back to the two lost teams. So in the NFC east, we got the Giants. We already crossed them off a few weeks ago because they're just terrible. I'm pretty confident with crossing out the Cowboys, but they are three and five. They are not statistically out. It's just a tough division. [00:11:18] Speaker C: Yeah, they're done, man. They're done. Washington, the Philly are in. Yeah, they're. They're done. [00:11:25] Speaker B: NFC West. We'll get back to that. Leo that. That's. [00:11:28] Speaker C: Whoever wins the division is going to take the cake, man. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. NFC north, as we discussed, pretty tight NFC South. It's a bad division. [00:11:38] Speaker C: You know, it's Atlantis, man. It's Atlantis to lose. [00:11:42] Speaker B: Panthers and Saints. I think we already crossed out the Saints. I wasn't sure. Yeah, we did cross out the Panthers, but nice win from them, though, by the way. They got homeboy fired from the Saints, so. [00:11:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:55] Speaker B: Farewell, buddy. You. [00:11:56] Speaker C: You can't. You can't go from beating this team in week one 47, 13 to being two zero, to dropping seven straight and not really being competitive. In a lot of these games. [00:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Other two and seven or two win teams. We got the AFC East, Dolphins and Patriots. I liked watching Drake made play this weekend. Man. They got their quarterback and you're right, they should went for the two point conversion. I don't know if you want to break down that. Break that down for us. [00:12:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean they should have went for two man. I mean Drake may just running around back there, held the ball for like 12 seconds, throws it up to Stevenson, they get the touchdown. Like. Like you mentioned Rome. They're not expected to win. You just made a play that no one expects you to make. You got nothing to lose. I mean you got your supposed franchise quarterback and Drake may looks like he may be that guy. I mean it's early, let's not jump on the bandwagon. But he's showing signs to be fair. [00:12:52] Speaker B: That's what also hot dang it. Who was a quarterback two years ago? I already forgot. [00:13:00] Speaker C: Oh, Mac Jones. [00:13:01] Speaker B: Matt Jones. Yeah, yeah. [00:13:04] Speaker C: You know Mac Jones. The best highlight he's got now is they're showing him warming up when the Jaguars are down 22 0. And you know it's like hey, they can make a quarterback switch like nah, just Mac Jones keeping the arm loose just in case this game gets a 30 to nothing. [00:13:16] Speaker B: Most definitely. So past two and seven but at least they got their quarterback. I didn't think Dolphins were good anyways but they look pretty competitive the last two weeks with Tua. They might make some noise. [00:13:26] Speaker C: Dolphins are 2 and 6. If they had two at full time, they'd be 4 and 4 right now. [00:13:30] Speaker B: Possibly. [00:13:32] Speaker C: We'll see if they got the Rams on Monday night Football. That should be a good game here in SoFi. [00:13:35] Speaker B: It's gonna be really good. Unfortunately the Rams are heating up at the right time. They got weapons back. Puka cipher, their ejection. They're looking solid. Raiders at 2 and 7. I think that's a bad head coaching hire. They look lost more than ever before. They just fire their offensive coordinator. They're. [00:13:54] Speaker C: Coach quarterbacks coach. [00:13:56] Speaker B: They don't even know who's gonna be calling plays. And they have a. An off week right now. [00:14:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I believe they have an awful. Do they? Let's see. I mean it's a good week to fire. Yeah, they do have a buy. I mean I did heard. I did hear the name North Turner. You remember the name North Turner. They may bring him into call plays are being offensive analysis. His son is rumored to be taken over to call the place. Scott Turner. Scott Turner. I think last call plays at the University of Illinois. Maybe Jason can clarify that when he comes on in here in a bit as he is off his out of Joshua's tree and the WI fi signal is working. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah. By the way, man, most of these two win teams are on the AFC side, so pretty crazy. We also got Browns, Titans, Jaguars, pretty rough, but Browns, man, they came back down to earth with a little James Winston with the three interceptions. Probably he should have got some of those last week anyway, so. [00:15:01] Speaker C: Hey, man, all those, all those crab legs, man. A little butter. Butter on those fingers with the balls. A little slippery coming out, man. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Exactly. But now we got Jason online. Jason, what's up, man? How you doing? [00:15:20] Speaker C: You there? Jason? A little technical difficulty still. Give us a thumbs up if you're ready to go. I don't think he's ready. I don't think he's ready yet, man. [00:15:34] Speaker B: It's ready yet. Yeah. All these teams, though, most of them are from the AFC though, so the AFC is really weak this year. It's pretty bad. [00:15:44] Speaker C: It's got some bad teams in the afc. [00:15:45] Speaker B: Yeah, like you mentioned, it's top heavy and bottom poor. What should we talk about before Jason comes on? Should we just wait? [00:16:00] Speaker C: I mean, look, we covered, you know, Lions. I mean, Lions are looking really strong in commanders. You know, we talked about the afc. The NFC has a lot of good teams, a lot of good depth, especially that NFC North. Lions 7 and 1, Packer 6 and 3, Vikings 6 and 2, and the Lonely Bears. I mean, 4 and 4. I hate to say it, 4 and 4. Usually in a playoff hunt. But things aren't looking good for the Bears. They do have the Patriots this weekend. Drake May, Caleb Williams. [00:16:31] Speaker B: I don't like that matchup, man. Not liking it. [00:16:35] Speaker C: It is the Bears home game. The Bears have not lost a home game this year. I mean, they did play the game in London against the Jaguars were considered the home team. So they're yet to win a road game. They got a good defense. The Bears kind of think that gets. Get that gets going against a bad Patriots kind of offense that just doesn't have any weapons on the outside to challenge these guys. Drake May is gonna be running for his life a lot, that's for sure. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah, one thing about the Vikings, they had a pretty big win. Indianapolis still pretty tough. Joe Flacco did not have a great game. I know we were like back and forth about Richardson. I. I still think Richardson should be gaining rats, but. Yeah, but he has been playing like you got a kind of Like a. The good and the bad. With Sam Darnold, he looks sharp, he moved around the pocket, did have two interceptions, but he also had three TDs, almost 300 yards, had some nice throws, some clutch throws. It's kind of like a weird bag, but them being 6 and 2, them being like the surprise team, kind of threw off the Bears chances of making the playoffs, in my opinion. But with the Vikings though, I think at the very least they go 500 the rest of the year and they're going to get to 10, 11 wins. [00:17:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, the Vikings, they got a stretch coming up here. I think three straight road games. Looking at it, they've, they, we got at Jacksonville, at Tennessee, at Chicago. Jacksonville is not, it's not going to be an easy game. Jaguars, every one of their losses this year, I believe has been by one score or except for maybe one in London. So they play tough games. Tennessee's not very good, but they do have a good pass defense and that Chicago, divisional games, we always know those are tough. Then they get Arizona, Atlanta, Chicago at home at Seattle, Green Bay, Detroit. Yeah, I mean they're 6 and 2. I think 10, 11 wins is probably about right for them, barring any crazy injuries. But Sam Darnold's got to stop turning the ball over. I mean, too many, too many turnovers, especially down there in the red zone. Referees have been missing some big time hits on him for sure. You know, obviously the face mask that wasn't called the Thursday night before against the Rams. They were likely still going to lose that game given the time and timeouts they had left. [00:18:51] Speaker B: Likely. But they saw the shot. [00:18:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it would have been 15 yard penalty and you move it out, a lot still would have had to happen. The odds of winning were still low, but you don't want to see a team lose a game like that. And then, you know, literally a 340 pound defensive nose tackle just punches him in the face, fumbles the ball gets scooped and scored for a touchdown. The only touchdown the Colts had in the game. And they basically almost tripled the yardage on them. So, yeah, I mean, Joe Flacco, you said, you know, is he the quarterback that's going to be there for the Colts? I, I give him another start. I think they're going to upset Buffalo this weekend or at least give Buffalo a good run for their money down there at Indy. So we'll, we'll see what happens. [00:19:35] Speaker B: Nice. Let's take a quick little break. When we come back, hopefully we'll get Jason on the line and he'll give us the 411 on the Chicago Bears and the return of the panic meter. We haven't seen that in a few weeks. We'll be back shortly. We are back with Jason back from Arizona. He was live Bears visiting The Cardinals and man 29 to 9 didn't see that one coming. I picked the Cardinals in an upset but did not see that point discrepancy. Jason, I imagine you're pretty pissed. We exchanged some text messages. Twitter's going off more so about like the the Saints over the weekend so it kind of overshadowed your Bears loss I think at least like you know for everyone outside of Chicago at least. I saw that you had a fire eber fluss post on IG earlier today. One of a one of a couple Chicago Bear stuff. There's some I was just telling Aaron how Ryan Rossillo was declared himself a Bears fan but then jumped off after last week's loss against Washington. He's like I'm done. I can't do it anymore. You guys broke a new Chicago Bears fan within eight weeks and here you are lifelong Emerson. I think I sent you some memes of what it means to be a Bears fan. Pretty hilarious stuff but how you feeling man? Like what's give us the four 1. Like what what you see in that game live in Arizona. Opinions etc. Well should they change play calling duties on the offensive side of the ball? [00:21:17] Speaker A: Well I mean how I'm feeling I I could see you said Rosillo was it came on came to be a Bears fan and then off the bandwagon that quickly. Yeah, I mean this is what life as a Bears fan is like. Hoping that Kayla Williams was going to be kind of the, you know, the break in this cycle that the Bears have offensively. But we talked in the season preview and I don't think it's any of the unique take around the Chicago Bears, but them not parting ways with Maddie Refleuss at the end of last season, knowing they were gonna get the first overall pick, drafting in, you know Caleb Williams, you know bringing another new quarterback in and not having a new coaching staff in place for that. There was going to be questions around is this going to be the right fit? So this will make the third time we've talked about it, the third time in three quarterbacks that the head coach you know was brought was drafted a quarterback in his basically lame duck season and then potentially getting dismissed and now this rookie quarterback in his second year is gonna have to loot off a new learn A new offense. So happen to Trubisky, happen to Fields now potentially Caleb Williams. So Roma, I think you had Eber fluss in your, your hot seat early in the year. I don't know, maybe after they lost to the Colts game. We did kind of your first round of top five quarterbacks. But this was the concern I think all year going into Chicago was, was Iberflu's going to be the coach. No, he can put a defense on the field, you know, potentially a Super bowl caliber defense I think and I called it maybe last week. But that super bowl caliber defense wasn't there on Sunday, which I saw. And you know, I think the most demoralizing play in that game, as bad as the offense was, which I'll get to that a second, the touchdown at the end of the first half to DeMarcusato. This was like 56. Oh, 56 yard touchdown. [00:23:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Oh my God, that was so good. [00:23:29] Speaker A: So when you pair that with losing to the Hail Mary the week prior and now you allow this just laps in defense where if the Bears stop that play, they're down 149 going into the half and getting the ball to start the second half. But now you deflate your entire team down 219 going into the half and the game was really lost. I think at that point like the momentum was completely gone. Now, two weeks in a row, the strength of your team, the defense has let you down in a big way. And offensively you brought up the play calling and stuff. Yeah, this is, this is every Bears offensive coordinator I think in my entire lifetime. You know, the scheme, the game plan, whatever you're calling it, not working and you can't get the running game going. Aaron and I mentioned this several times with Swift, like they run outside, they run outside. You have no running game up the middle. Everything that they're doing in the passing game with Caleb Williams doesn't click. It's very disjointed, you know, and even I think, you know, Aaron has watched a lot of Charger games in person. I say Keenan Allen, I think dropped, I think a first down ball that was like right through his hands. And one of the bigger sins, two weeks in a row you have Cole Comet, which I think is top 10 tight end talent wise in the game. Didn't even get a target in this game. And then I think it's two weeks in a row he didn't get a target. At least didn't get a catch. So you have all these weapons. Offensively you do a lot of things Offensively that take forever to develop. And Caleb Williams we sacked five times in this game. Can only remember what it was. [00:25:22] Speaker B: But I don't remember but is it's. [00:25:25] Speaker A: This is. Arizona was a bottom tier defensive line from a pass rush going into this game. And you allowed you know this defensive line which no I think no really heavy hitters. The biggest. The top player on this Arizona. [00:25:39] Speaker C: Six. Six total sacks. They had six total sacks. [00:25:42] Speaker A: All right. So you play a bottom third league defensive line allow six total sacks. Arizona's best player Buddha Baker is in the secondary. And you can't get anything on this team that you know has given up a ton in the passing game. And it. It was just bad all around room. [00:26:02] Speaker B: So now I know the first. First. The first half looked pretty. Pretty bad. It was 76 and then everything changed the last three minutes. That's when Benson had a one yard run made a 16 or 14 6. You guys came back and got a field goal. 26 seconds left. 9 14. Pretty good going in a half right. But 26 seconds left. Forgot I think Murray had a run and like a pass and then all of a sudden DeMarcuso with the 53 yard run which that kind of deflated the whole game like it Bears look flat. Bears look flat out flat. And it seemed like that loss, that hangover loss was hanging over. Oh no. That loss was the Bears. [00:26:47] Speaker C: The Bears left their mojo over there in London, man. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Ever since the bye weekend is not good. I've never seen a bi week have opposite effect on a football team like this might be a first. [00:26:56] Speaker A: I. I mean 100 I did the pod air last week or I don't know. It could be the. The hidden episode that what whether did. [00:27:04] Speaker C: Or it's like the Bears offense man. Hit or miss. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Don't know but a lot a lot of criticism in our last recorded pod of me taking 30 minutes in the Bears in 20 minutes and Formula One. But that literally was my entire Sunday. Watching the Brazilian Grand Prix in the morning. [00:27:21] Speaker B: I missed it. I missed. [00:27:22] Speaker A: Incredible race. Incredible race. We'll put that to the side for now. [00:27:25] Speaker B: Wasn't it rain delay? [00:27:26] Speaker A: It was qualifying was delayed but and then had a rain on the RA race which kind of played into the result. But I'll be to say a lot of Formula one and Bears talk in the last pod that was recorded so. But in. In that pod talking about the Bears you know this the best coaches come out of bye weeks you know and basically almost guarantee a win. And last week not only did they let that Win slip through because of the Hail Mary but offensively basically nothing to be found. And so you have this demoralizing loss. How are you going to respond? And the offense was just as bad. Like nothing going on the entire time. So yeah, you know, this looks like any other Bears offense. Luke Getzi, the Bears offense corner last two years already fired from the Raiders. So and this basically looks like that exact same offense. So I don't know it's. It's new to people that are watching the Bears, but this is the exact same type of team you see and I've said it on this pod we talked about with Aaron Averflu should have been let go last year. Ben Johnson should have been the higher and that's what should happen this year. And I have no confidence that the Bears actually do that. [00:28:44] Speaker B: Yeah, well he's not gonna get fired in the season so. No. Never do that. Right. [00:28:50] Speaker A: They never do that. So it's going to be. We're going to. We're going to stick with it now. You're going to play a. [00:28:54] Speaker C: We'll. We'll see man. [00:28:55] Speaker B: How many. [00:28:56] Speaker C: We'll see how many Bears can continue to the bed they. They'll make an end season firing. [00:29:01] Speaker B: We'll see. [00:29:01] Speaker C: Well, it's the same. It's the same. Last year with the Chargers bro Spaniel's team owner never made his in season firing. And then that's true. You just get your ass beat on TV one game and all of a sudden had to happen. [00:29:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Loud people are loud. [00:29:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:16] Speaker A: On that one I will say I've given. I've given thoughts I think in the P.O. my White Sox and their owner Jerry Ridesdorf. [00:29:24] Speaker B: So a little bit, yeah. [00:29:26] Speaker A: The Bears ownership is owned by the McCaskey family which is you know, passed down from you know, the Bears founder George hallis. But George Mc. George McCaskey became chairman of the Bears in 2011. At the end of the 2012 season at 10 and 6 the Bears missed the playoffs and the first head coach business for George McCasky was to fire Lovey Smith 201210 and six season but missed the playoffs since then two years they hired Mark Tressman two years and fired hired John Fox three years basically no winning seasons. Fired. Hired Matt Nagy had one playoff or two player appearance, excuse me, but had the infamous double doink, didn't win a playoff game and then hired Matt ever Fl. So the original sin of this franchise of hiring or firing the head coach that took you to a Super bowl off a winning season but wasn't good enough at that time. Now this owner has done this and basically made all wrong hires from a head coaching perspective since then, I'm gonna. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Play devil's advocate, and I. And I'm so sorry. To be fair, Lovey Smith never came through in prime time, though. You know, he got close, got that. He just couldn't take that next step. And I think you guys are pretty frustrated with that right at the time. [00:30:52] Speaker A: I mean, they, them. Them going 10 and 6 and making the playoffs. There, there was, there was offensive turmoil. So, I mean, same thing a decade ago when you're talking about the offense, because we had like, Mike Barts coming in as offensive coordinator and, you know. [00:31:06] Speaker C: Throw the ball 80% of the time and run it twice. [00:31:08] Speaker A: So there was, there was wild stuff then at that point too, but, okay, this was the head that legitimately would beat the. The Green Bay Packers. Lovey Smith is the last Bears head coach that had success against the Packers. [00:31:20] Speaker C: Lovey Smith was the guy that came in and said, I don't care if I go Owen 15 or Owen 14 against the rest of the league. I want to go two and oh, against Green Bay. That was his attitude. [00:31:29] Speaker A: Knew the importance of. Of that rivalry to the Bears, and no head coach since has done that. So it's just been, if you were to fire him, you better have, you know, a better track record, sense of head coaches and. And whatnot. So I, I will go back Rome and we're going into way too much Bears history. I, I have liked Ryan Poles, the general manager of the Bears. I think he's put them, for the most part, constructed a right roster. But even his hiring, when they hired him, he got to pick the head coach for Eber fluss for the most part, but he basically got the finalists. So they started interviewing head coaches before Eber flu's even. I'm sorry, before Ryan pulls even fully got the job. And then once he got the job is these were your finalists. Of the three he had to choose from, I ended up choosing Eberflu. So the full coaching search was in Harris. And that's. That's just a mic. It's a microcosm of what the Bears argus organization, everything's one step behind. And they're going to do it again with Caleb Williams here because if they get rid of Eva flu like they should, we're going to start another second year with Caleb Williams. And I don't think they're going to fire him because at least during the season, because, hey, at 4 and 4, most media people say this is where the Bears are going to be. They're going to play a bad Patriots team coming up. You know, they maybe muscle out of victory versus them and now hey, we're five and four going against the division. It's still winnable. And then maybe the bears are adding around 500. But I have seen no progression offensively and that that's the biggest question. What are you going to do to develop Caleb Williams and my other counterpart? I don't know if I necessarily believe this, but I've I vaunted the Bears defense of what Eber Fluz has to go. The biggest question mark you could say is it Eber fluce on defense or was it the acquisition of Montez Sweat because the Bears became a top defense of actually one year ago when they got Montez wasn't there this this Sunday and you saw this was the worst defensive performance the Bears have had and probably in the last year with no Montez in the lineup. [00:33:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean I'm looking at the Bear schedule. [00:33:40] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. I'm looking at. [00:33:42] Speaker C: They should beat the Patriots, but they could lose their next six following that. Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, 49ers, Minnesota, Detroit, Seattle, Green Bay. I think it's underdogs and every one. [00:33:55] Speaker B: Of them Minnesota, yeah. [00:33:57] Speaker C: There'll be underdogs in every one of those games. [00:34:00] Speaker A: So in year three of of the Eber flu tenure, this is, this is the stuff Sunday Rome as you're texting me and I'm finding out different things about the different stats around the Bears where they're at in April flu. So in the Uber Flu's era, they're 017 on the road on Sundays. [00:34:19] Speaker B: I didn't know that until they did that on the broadcast. [00:34:21] Speaker A: They're 3 and 18 on the road overall they're 2 and 10 versus the NFC north so far. So that's going into the schedule Aaron's talking about right there and then mentioned last week whether day or not they have four collapsing losses with a 92 win percentage in the fourth quarter. So these are kind of the stuff that's. You need to start looking at what this team's going to be potentially wasted this season. You know, we're going to the trade deadline tomorrow. There should be at least two players the Bears should be trading. We'll see if they do or not. But it's. It's in bad shape. Bad shape. And we're at where Aaron and I were so bullish on this division, which I still think is good. I, well, still got still good. But the Bears, as much as I wanted to put them up there, they're, they're. They're the worst team in this division and they have regressed in the past couple weeks. [00:35:16] Speaker B: Yeah, well, as I was talking to Aaron earlier today, man, like once the Vikings ended up being decent or good, you know, it kind of a lot of plans up and I was talking about this earlier, I think they'll at the very least go 500 the rest of the way. So. Yeah, they kind of pulled a lot of plans, but. Cool, man. Thank you for the Chicago update. I really appreciate it, man. [00:35:43] Speaker A: We'll keep it shorter this time. Many complaints about me talking about the Bears too much. [00:35:48] Speaker B: No, it's fair enough. You're a resident Bears fan. I think some other podcasts had some guy talking about the Cowboys for 20 minutes. So, you know, everyone's got a voice, their frustrations. And out of all the coaches that got fired, Dennis Allen got fired. [00:36:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think he might have been number two at some point on your last power rankings. Or maybe he was number one. [00:36:13] Speaker B: He was number one in the beginning of the season. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:16] Speaker B: They had those two wins. You know, we're all thinking like, wow, are the Saints good? This is a playoff team and seven straight losses. It's pretty, it's pretty impressive, actually. I, I love football. I love football. Me and I were talking about earlier how 1/4 of the league has two wins. It's a pretty wild season. [00:36:37] Speaker A: It's been a very, very interesting season. I. The thing that's kind of startles me so far this season, really the lack of offense overall in the league. I don't know what the stats are just offensively, but I remember we talked about the first couple weeks scorings down and even watching this Monday Night Football game tonight, you know, what was it, 10, 7 for I don't know how long there was weather conditions and stuff. But, you know, the defense is something that's I think, really caught up where, you know, a couple years ago it's just high flying offenses, you know, scoring 35, 40 plus points a game. And I. Defense has really stepped it up where things have kind of changed around this league where, man, these are some super tight games defensively and a lot of these quarterbacks are having a lot of, you know, having a much harder time, you know, getting the ball up and down the field. [00:37:32] Speaker B: Well, don't tell the Lions fans that because they've been destroying their opponents weekend and week out and they started slow. [00:37:39] Speaker C: Too, but yeah, now, now that that train is rolling. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Now they're, they're, they're Lamborghini taking off, I think. Biggest loss from this week. I'll just go ahead and say it might be the Texans to the Jets. Jets finally got that win on Thursday night. We weren't able to talk about that game at all, but big win for the jets to stay alive, more or less at 3 and 6. And then of course the Saints out, gaining the Panthers by 150 yards in the passing game or running. What, whatever it was, winning the turnover differential and still coughing at that game and costing their head coach his job. On in other notes, Derek Carr, not really popular in New Orleans, getting called out by Michael Thomas, saying that he throws the ball very dangerously, whereas career ender. [00:38:34] Speaker C: Is that the kind of the term he's using over there? [00:38:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:38] Speaker A: What's that guy Olave got hurt, right? [00:38:41] Speaker B: Olave got. It was a bad throw. Yeah, he didn't do him any favors. But I would see like that. I will reveal my new top power eight, I guess late in the week. I guess I could talk about last week really quickly. Yeah, no, no. Last week was Lions at number one, Chiefs number two, which we talked about this game did Chiefs win? Luckily, again, it's complete utter. Ravens were at number three, Bills at number four. Pack, we're at five, Texans were number six, Commanders were at number seven and Vikings were at number eight. So we'll have a little bit of reshuffling at least in the bottom half of those rankings come Thursday. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll talk some college football. We're going to review some of Aaron's college football games of the week from week 10. Some upsets, some people that got eliminated from the playoffs for sure. And before we get into that, actually it's part of Aaron's games of the week. Anyways, let's start from the bottom. We posted on on Instagram. At least I don't think we posted on the on X. We did post Aaron's picks for college football and the NFL on X, but ucla, Nebraska, this is why you don't want to have more than two teams that you root for because when this happens, it makes it really tough. I did not enjoy it, but I'm really happy for my UCLA Bruins. Looking really tough, man. Deshawn Foster, new coach, learning the ropes, really seasoned assistant coaches, lots of NFL experience. Whatever you're doing, homie, whatever you're doing. This UCLA team, the baby blue for the first time in a long time, they look gritty they look tough. They look like they want to punch people in their faces. And I'm all for it, man. That Nebraska, they're. They're gonna be fine. They got a great quarterback. I don't know. We've been saying this for a few years though. Maybe they're not fine. They're kind of falling off again, bro. [00:40:59] Speaker C: Nebraska hasn't been to a bowl game since what, like 2015. [00:41:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:04] Speaker C: And this was the game to get bolt. They win against ucla, they get bowl eligible for the first time in like eight years. [00:41:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know what Rome's talking about here. Like, we get the. This gets used to three and five. This is a huge loss for Nebraska. [00:41:16] Speaker B: Five. [00:41:17] Speaker A: I think you're. I think you're lucky that in college football it's not like wrestling where there's a triple threat match, because you would have had like ucla, Nebraska versus Pittsburgh, on which team could be more mediocre. I think on out of your three of your favorite teams here, but man, on there. Okay. I thought they were on your favorite team list too. [00:41:36] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. [00:41:37] Speaker C: He doesn't care about it. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Okay. [00:41:40] Speaker B: I will root for the piss for Penguins, you know. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a bad loss for Nebraska, dude. A bad loss at home coming off that slug fest of a game against Ohio State. And then you laid egg against ucla. UCLA has looked better, but terrible laws, chance to get bowl eligible. Not a good loss for Nebraska. [00:42:02] Speaker B: Michigan lost. Of course. I got a special clip that I will be posting on Instagram at x regarding Aaron's preseason predictions for Michigan. I hate you. I just want to let you know, Aaron, I hate you. [00:42:15] Speaker C: They're gonna lose again this weekend too. [00:42:16] Speaker B: You get lucky with some of these calls and you got lucky on this one. [00:42:20] Speaker C: They're gonna lose this weekend too, against Indiana. [00:42:22] Speaker B: Had no business playing Oregon this weekend. And you know, I'm done watching them for the rest of the year. Texas A M, South Carolina, they got game cocked big time. The Cox came in hard and rammed it down Texas. A demon's throat. They're out of the playoffs. [00:42:41] Speaker C: Not out. I don't think a name's out yet. [00:42:43] Speaker B: You don't think so? [00:42:44] Speaker C: No, they have to be not out yet, man. [00:42:47] Speaker B: They're not out. [00:42:48] Speaker C: Not out yet. [00:42:51] Speaker A: They gotta win the last game of the season, but yeah, they gotta win out. [00:42:55] Speaker C: But they're not out yet. [00:42:56] Speaker B: They're out. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Aaron, I. Aaron, I feel called this one. I was dismissing South Carolina, but he said this was going to be a tough game for them. So I I, I wasn't surprised because I'll give Aaron the credit on this one. But it. This, this was a bad loss, though. I mean, this, this Texas A M team looked really good since that loss to Notre Dame and it wasn't like it was close. Like South Carolina came out and they put it on him. [00:43:18] Speaker C: Yeah, South Carolina did pit it on him. I thought A and M would win. I knew it was gonna be tough. I knew it was gonna be tight. I mean, South Carolina's been in a battle a lot of games this year. They had Alabama on the ropes, had a few other games that they could have won, but yeah, they bad loss for Texas A, but they're still in the hunt. Still got that game against Texas at the end of the year at Kyle Field. There's gonna be some more upsets coming. I got a big upset this weekend in college football. [00:43:47] Speaker B: Well, they had a big one against LSU last week and they were talking some mad Gamecocks. They've been tough like them in Wisconsin. You never know what they're going to be doing week in, a week out. They're pretty gritty, but, man, they got Auburn coming up, Texas at the end of the year. They're not going to be Texas. I know you guys don't like Texas, but I like Texas still. Although I'm kind of dropping off a little bit. [00:44:09] Speaker C: We'll wait and see, man. We'll wait and see, man. [00:44:12] Speaker B: All right. [00:44:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:14] Speaker B: That's a tough loss, though. Aaron's. Aaron had Pittsburgh. They were 18 at the time. Going against number 20, SMU. They got dismantled. 48, 20. I didn't catch too much of that game, to be honest. [00:44:28] Speaker C: I didn't watch it. I just saw the score. I mean, I haven't watched Pittsburgh all. [00:44:31] Speaker B: Year on your games, though. [00:44:33] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see. You know, watch your own game. [00:44:38] Speaker A: I don't think no one even. [00:44:41] Speaker C: Eye on. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Yeah, keep an eye on. No one even knew Pitt was undefeated until this week. It was like, oh, they're 7 0. [00:44:48] Speaker C: I knew they were because Roman's been bringing it up for the last three weeks ago. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like, hey, Pittsburgh. [00:44:54] Speaker C: And I told him, I said, dude, pit sucks. And then I was going to tell you SMU was going to trash him out there in Dallas and that's exactly what they did. [00:45:01] Speaker B: They destroyed him. [00:45:02] Speaker C: At least Dallas has one good team they can watch this year and it's not the Cowboys. [00:45:08] Speaker B: One of you guys picked SMU as like a possible at large birth right from the playoff or. [00:45:12] Speaker C: No, right now it's SMU in Miami in the acc, given if we want to get to Clemson losing against Louisville. [00:45:19] Speaker B: I think you talked about it, Aaron. I don't know if you did it on your official picks, but I know you talked about them before this season. [00:45:23] Speaker A: I think it was one of his. One of his, like, keep an eye on. Keep an eye on teams or sleeper teams or something like that. [00:45:30] Speaker B: Sleeper teams. I have teams. [00:45:32] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. He's not, he's not wrong on. On what the ACC title game is because I, I was on Clemson knowing they had a bad loss to start the year but come in. But this, this is a bad loss to Louisville this week where it should have lined up with Clemson, Miami in the ACC championship game. And now. And now that's not even. [00:45:51] Speaker B: Yeah, Clemson's out. That was a tough loss, man. But Louisville, it wasn't even that close. I, I think they had a bigger lead going. [00:45:58] Speaker C: Yeah, Louisville, Louisville pit it on Clinton smacking. Yeah, they put it on them. I mean, like, Clemson had been rolling ever since they got rolled by Georgia in week one. They looked good. They've been playing good. I mean, I'm not ready to roll Clemson out of the acc. There's a lot of things can still happen, a lot of upsets, but yeah, it's a bad, bad loss at home, man. For sure. [00:46:20] Speaker B: You had Texas Tech in Iowa State as well on one of your games to watch. I did not see this one. I watched this game. That was a tough loss. [00:46:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Of the playoff. [00:46:35] Speaker C: I mean, there's. I mean, they're still in it. I mean, they got. You got the Big 12 and the ACC are going to get one team in. It's whoever can get to that conference championship and win it. So with Iowa State losing, that gives. BYU is the only undefeated team in that conference right now, if I'm not mistaken. So, I mean, byu, they're looking good, they're looking strong, and they won at SMU. So BYU's legit, man. They're legit. They're 8, 0, but they're a legit 8, 0. [00:47:09] Speaker B: That was another good game. I can't remember. Illinois, Minnesota, Illinois. [00:47:16] Speaker C: Minnesota won that game. Oh, let's see. I'm looking at the Florida. Georgia was actually good until, you know, Florida's quarterback got hurt there. He did the old Dak Prescott and tore the hamstring. And so he's out. [00:47:28] Speaker B: Yeah, Georgia's, Ohio State, Penn State. [00:47:30] Speaker C: You might as well get to that game. James Franklin. [00:47:32] Speaker B: That was tough, man. That's a tough loss. Who has the worst. [00:47:35] Speaker C: The Bears or James Franklin? I'm just curious, Jason. [00:47:39] Speaker A: The Bears got it worse, man. James Franklin, at least. [00:47:42] Speaker C: He's got it bad. He's got it bad, dude. [00:47:43] Speaker A: At least every year James Franklin gets an undefeated Penn State team to this game. Every year. You know, we just, it's just going to be one of these years he's going to get over the hump. But yeah, I, it ain't firing Franklin. [00:47:56] Speaker B: Signs after this game. It was, it was, it was active on, on X, it was active on the red reports. People are not happy. Boosters are not happy with Franklin, which is wild. [00:48:05] Speaker A: I mean, I get it, but I mean, it's not. [00:48:08] Speaker B: They were wild. They were trying to kick Harbaugh out of Michigan five years ago. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Oh, I know in Ohio State's trying to get, you know, Ryan Day and. [00:48:17] Speaker C: He'S like, he's had like one of. [00:48:19] Speaker A: The best winning percentage, I think our head coaches in Ohio State history. [00:48:22] Speaker B: College football is fucking crazy. [00:48:23] Speaker C: Ryan Day, in his whole collegiate of career coaching at Ohio State's lost to like two teams, Georgia and Michigan. Yeah, they just happen to win like three of the last four national championships. [00:48:36] Speaker B: Vandy had a big win against Auburn. 17 7. [00:48:41] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a big win for Vandy, man. Vandy's still talking about themselves being in the playoff hunt if they can win out. I'm not really buying it, but, hey, Vandy's an exciting story, man. Thrills. [00:48:53] Speaker B: It's a good year for them. It's a really good year. They've beat up some really good teams. [00:48:57] Speaker C: And, you know, Fabio's, Pavio's now the governor of Alabama. I saw a sign. Since he beat Auburn and Alabama, he's now the, now the governor of the state. [00:49:07] Speaker B: A lot of piss off people because he is Hispanic. Kevin. Well, in Alabama, I could be wrong. [00:49:14] Speaker A: Aaron, but tomorrow is the first official release list of for the playoff. So I think as we talk about teams getting eliminated and things and things like that, I think this initial list at least gives some indication of, like, how well does the playoff kind of match up to, you know, what the top 25, you know, looks like in the AP poll and, you know, yeah. [00:49:39] Speaker C: I'm looking at the top 25 right now. [00:49:40] Speaker A: But as we start kind of going down to the wire, I think the pairings for the conference championship games could be interesting, you know, because, I mean, for the, for the sec, for example, they're probably going to get three, four teams in, you know, Big Ten same thing too, but only two of them are going to play in the, in the title game. So you're going to have some teams potentially getting in without having to play in the, in the championship games. [00:50:03] Speaker C: Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Like you said. I mean, what's going to happen? I mean Indiana should beat Michigan this weekend. I see him going undefeated till they lose at Ohio State. Now Indiana, one lost team, Ohio State's probably gonna have one loss. Oregon's gonna run the table. I honestly think Indiana is better than Penn State and I would pin them in over Penn State. Whether or not the committee, if that comes down to one of those three, two teams sees the same, I don't know. So I think it's important for Indiana to show out against a Michigan and against Ohio State that will be at Ohio State. If they play well there and even if they lose by 10, I would consider that more impressive than what we've seen from Penn State against Ohio State for the last decade. [00:50:46] Speaker B: Yeah, Indiana, who would have thought? But have they played anybody really good this year or it's just a luck of the Irish? [00:50:55] Speaker C: Indiana's good, man. This is actually, this was the first time this year that they were actually behind in the game all season. So they, their first eight games they were rolling people. They were down 10, 0 against Michigan State and then scored 47 points unanswered. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah, they have in. They have Michigan. Next they're gonna roll them State, then Purdue. [00:51:17] Speaker A: To answer your question, Rome. They really haven't played, I guess anyone from a rank perspective, but they haven't. They allowed anyone to really hang around either. They blown everybody out. [00:51:26] Speaker B: I think Nebraska was ranked when they play them, correct? [00:51:30] Speaker C: No, I don't think Nebraska was ranked. But they demolished them. [00:51:34] Speaker B: They destroyed them. Yeah. 56, 7. I could have sworn Nebraska strength that week. I can't remember though. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Wishful thinking on your part. [00:51:43] Speaker B: They were ranked this year at some point. [00:51:46] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were ranked till they lost at Illinois on Friday night. They started the year out 4, 0. Yeah, they had a lot of momentum and then Jason's fighting line, I kind of, you know, started this losing streak for them. [00:52:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Been a lot of losing for Illinois based football teams lately. [00:52:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Do you guys want to go ahead and comment on like the first playoff ranking or any disagreements, like top 25? [00:52:17] Speaker C: Well, I think the playoff ranking, like Jason said, a bit irrelevant. The ACC is getting one team in. It's either Clemson, Miami or smu. So whoever gets to that conference title game and wins is in. That's all they're getting in my opinion. [00:52:31] Speaker A: I don't know. That'd be rough though because I mean if you look at if it's like Miami smu, Miami's undefeated all year, they lose the ACC title game, you're telling me they're going to keep them out of the playoff. Like that's what. [00:52:43] Speaker C: Because how many teams has Miami played in the top 20? [00:52:47] Speaker A: 5? [00:52:47] Speaker C: 0. [00:52:48] Speaker A: 0. [00:52:49] Speaker C: Unlike Indiana, they've come back to win like four games and gotten lucky. So if you told me Indiana, Miami, Miami's obviously a bigger brand. I pit in Indiana. Just because they demolished everybody. [00:53:01] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. I, I just think that's where the politics are going to get into, you know, this stuff. And I. With the expanded playoff, I, I'm still never been a big fan of the conference championship games. Now with the 12 team playoff, I think it's even more irrelevant because I think there was a way to turn these conference championship games into more of a first round of the playoff type thing versus the way they expanded. But now, you know, they're almost to a detriment, you know, to be in the conference championship game. Like if you added like you know, a hypothetical where you know, you get two, one lost teams in an undefeated team in a conference title game, one of those one loss teams, you know, doesn't play in the conference title game so they don't take an L and they potentially get in over the team that went to the conference title game and lost and now they have two losses. Like there's, there's a lot of weird scenarios where these teams are playing an extra game versus a team that doesn't that I think it's going to create a lot of controversy. Now we're Talking about the 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th teams versus the 3rd and 4th teams or how it was in the previous iterations of the playoff. But it's going to create a lot of controversy for how these title games are, are kind of configured, especially with these expanded conferences where hey, you know, you mentioned Indiana. Hey, they haven't played really anyone in the conference up in here until like the next to last game of the season from a ranked team perspective. [00:54:20] Speaker C: Well, ye bring, yeah, you bring up a great point because let's say Indiana loses to Ohio State, Ohio State again plays Oregon and then loses. Now you're saying like you said, Jason, Ohio State has two losses against Oregon. Hypothetically, Ohio State's one of the top 12 teams that should be in the playoff. But do you say, hey, we're going to keep pit Ohio State in over Indiana? [00:54:42] Speaker B: Are we going to have playoff controversy again with the absolute 100%. [00:54:47] Speaker A: It doesn't matter how many teams you put in. [00:54:49] Speaker C: I would agree with Jason. I think they're going to eventually expand the playoff and go, hey, if you make the conference championship, you're automatically in the playoff. College playoff, whether or not you win or lose it. Just to depend on how your seating goes, whether if you win a conference champion, you get a first round buying. If you lose, I would like to go. [00:55:05] Speaker B: Who would have thought that? [00:55:06] Speaker C: Because, I mean, Miami to me is good. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:09] Speaker C: And, you know, SMU is good. SMU's one game to BYU, who may run the table and be the number three or four seed come playoff time. So. And if they lose to Miami, say by like three points, they lost the BYU by three, Miami by three. They got two losses. Indiana doesn't play in the Big Ten Conference championship game. Do you pit them in over smu, who lost to the number three and four seed in the playoff? That's what's going to come up with the committee here. [00:55:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:41] Speaker C: Tough decisions. [00:55:42] Speaker A: And not to, you know, not to even put the negative here from my Fighting Irish, though, but they're not in a conference. They don't play a conference championship game, so they don't even have to go through that addition around now. The negative for them is they're never going to get a top four seed because they can't win the conference at the same time. But there's a lot of goofy things still for how this is kind of just shaken out where, yeah, we're gonna have tons of controversy, Romans, because someone's gonna be pissed off being the 13th and 14th team out of this. [00:56:10] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, Notre Dame, the good thing about them not being in a conference is they can lose to Northern Illinois, run the table and likely still get in. If they were in the Big Ten, I would still see him as one of the four top teams there. But, you know, you lose two games, you're on the outskirts looking out. I mean, Boise, Boise State's looking the prettiest of all the pretty teams right now. The rest of their road is easy. I think they're going to match up again in the Mountain West Conference with Washington State for that conference championship. It's looking that maybe UNLV gets back there again. Who's. Who knows? But yeah, Boise State, they. They may be the only sure bet right now that I'm confident outside of Oregon saying they're going to go to a playoff. And ironically, they played earlier in the year. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Well, I Don't want to. I don't want to jinx any more of my teams, but I think Notre Dame's a lock into at this point. So their toughest matchup right now is Army. They're playing a terrible Florida State team. [00:57:02] Speaker C: I will say this. They got a care. They got a guaranteed win coming up this week. Notre Dame guarantee it. [00:57:10] Speaker B: That's a Charles Barkley guarantee, huh? [00:57:16] Speaker C: They're gonna demolish Florida State, man. [00:57:19] Speaker B: I've never seen anyone talk so much on their own team. You've been like, hey, did you just. [00:57:25] Speaker C: Listen to Jason go 20 minutes on the Bears, dude? [00:57:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that was tame today, but the Bears too, man. I'm. I had a day and a half to cool off. [00:57:36] Speaker C: He's going back to old ownership groups, man. [00:57:39] Speaker B: I know. [00:57:40] Speaker C: Don't make me go back to Bobby bowen in the 90s. And the wide rights against Miami, bro. [00:57:44] Speaker B: He's like, that should have, like, these. [00:57:45] Speaker C: Guys, like, 10 championships right now. [00:57:47] Speaker B: The last guys too cool. [00:57:54] Speaker C: I mean, Rome, Rome. Before we go off the air, you might as well, you know, give praise to your Dodgers. I don't know if you forgot about it, all right, but you might as well just get into it right now. [00:58:05] Speaker B: Fine. So I tried making it to the parade on Friday. I was hoping that they're gonna win on Wednesday, so. So I can go to the parade on Friday, pick up my daughter. I was in la. I was in traffic, man. I didn't even bother. I was like, you know what? It's. Either go to the parade and miss out picking up my daughter from school. I tried picking her up on time to go, but I picked her up. We went and celebrate with other Dodger fans that, you know, we caught the talent. Lots of Dodger fans all over downtown la. It was busy, big vibes. Saw a couple fights break out in a bar. What a surprise. Daughter fans finding themselves over some argument. It was really great, man. Some pretty thuggish fans, man. I gotta say, totally forgot about some of the demographics there, but I loved it, man. The. The parade of the city, the vibes that epic. This is like one of the funnest, like, October's overall, like, from, like the wild card all the way to the end. Even the Yankee series, you know, it's only five games, but it was pretty exciting. A lot of those games were close. Aside from that, that blowout that the Yankees did. It was a bullpen game where Dave Roberts smartly just stuck with tier three relievers and just kind of had them eat innings, which he did that in Every series, this playoff season. And. And I'm really impressed, man. I think this is a bounce back year for Dave Roberts as far as like, like the fan base and his managerial, like, how he fits in the historical context of, you know, the managerial greats in baseball. I'm really impressed with the Dodgers pulling it out and the fact they did it on, like, on a, you know, when people were injured. Right. Oh, Tani supposed to come back pitching. It was an up and down year for bats. Same thing with Freeman. Freeman was like hobbling on one leg. And the fact that they, you know, the bullpen, right, the bullpen carried them throughout the playoffs. They had. They had like eight starters. They could only use three of them in the playoffs. I'm feeling pretty good for the next few years because if this was an injured year, we're looking pretty good for the next few years to kind of compete for hopefully at least one or two more World Series. But Game 5, one of the most exciting games I was watching at home, pretty epic. Judge happy to see him get a home run. I think it was the first or it was somewhere in the first three innings. I can't remember anymore. Those back to back home runs with him. Soto, I believe. [01:00:34] Speaker C: Chisholm. Chisholm. [01:00:35] Speaker B: Chisholm. And then Soto hit a home run as well. Right in the third inning. [01:00:40] Speaker C: No, Stanton. [01:00:41] Speaker B: Stanton, yeah. And then that fifth inning, man, Garrett Cole was pitching phenomenal. But I didn't watch a lot of Yankee games this year, and so I was unaware with how shitty their fielding was. But apparently this is something that the Dodgers knew very well. So one of the things that they did, and if you're a baseball coach for like Little Leagues, I think this Dodger team is like a perfect team to show your young little guys, like always running the first base, making that extra effort of fielding the balls, you know, doing like the tiny, you know, baby steps, whatever it is, in baseball. Because that showed out in that fifth inning where it could have been a couple easy outs. Garrett Cole didn't cover first, but then also the first baseman, you know, was assuming that Garrett Cole's gonna run over that Judge. Flop and the outfield. That was just his first error this season. Would have known. That's pretty crazy. It's like the, you know, like the baseball gods were just watching over, like, yeah, them, you know, them. Let's take. Let's take this one away. Just. Just a series of unfortunate events where could have been three outs and all of a sudden you got a couple guys on base in the meat of the order and then that was it, man. Pretty epic comeback. And then once you're ready to take the lead, bringing out, man, who was it? Aaron? [01:02:05] Speaker C: What a picture you brought in or what? Yeah, oh, Bueller. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Bueller, man. Bueller as like the closer coming in the ninth inning. [01:02:14] Speaker C: But that's Dave Roberts, man. He's always like these, those guys remember they used to use Scherzer back to close out the Giants when they had that record the win season man, in the ninth. So that's, that's Dave Robertson, Mo man, maybe Ohtani next year in the ninth. [01:02:29] Speaker B: But I was at that game five of that Giants game when he brought out Scherzer and he was hurt the rest of playoffs and that's when your Atlanta Braves end up taken away. So I remember that right. [01:02:40] Speaker C: I love it, man. Yeah, I remember we were depleted. [01:02:42] Speaker B: That, that five game series against the Giants depleted the Dodgers like they were done. Like yeah, they were game. The Giants were injured too. Like it was just like a, a big battle. And then here comes the Braves just sweeping up all the mess and just taking up the championship that year. I remember that it was easy pickings for you guys after that and no one left. Everyone was on wheelchairs. But great World Series, great playoffs, man. I, I forgot how much I love the major league baseball playoffs. Besides that, I think one of the most memorable, you know, World Series runs are like, you know, playoffs was that Cubs guardians, you know, series. I, I think the were the guardians up 3:1 in that and then the Cubs came back and won it in game seven. That was really fun. And then going back to 2004, of course with, with the Red Sox, they're you know, breaking the, the curse in like their first of three championships. Those are the flood October. So that's all I gotta say. I love it man. [01:03:51] Speaker A: As it should must it, you know, it must be an incredible feeling being a Dodgers fan. I think it's for a team that has next to unlimited financial resources in baseball. The admirable thing to me about that franchise is them continuing to, you know, build through the minor leagues and, and you mentioned that their style of play, like they do the little things well in some of the fundamentals and I think, you know, that goes to how, you know, how they do things in the minor leagues and develop players and you know, they're able to have, you know, a well rounded farm system and then hey, you know, spend a billion dollars in free agency to round out and make sure they have the MVPs around the lineup. So it's tough. It's tough framing a underdog story that Rome's trying to do for a team with a 300 plus million dollar payroll. [01:04:41] Speaker B: But everyone can spend that money. It's just. They're all billionaire owners. [01:04:44] Speaker A: You know, I disagree. I think the Dodgers have a lot of inherited financial advantages with their TV network that gives them extra revenue that other teams do not get. That isn't part of revenue sharing. So there's a lot of built in advantages that baseball gifted them and said the Yankees with the yes network at the same time too. So it's, it's not all teams are created evil based on your billionaire owners. But, but it's a well run franchise and I won't take that away from them for what they had to do. They have underachieved in the playoffs. I think overall that's been the consensus. But now they have two World Series titles here, you know, within, you know, four year period. And you know, they have a team kind of built to last. And when you look at the World Series overall, I don't know if you consider this an overly memorable World Series because it was only five games, but it had moments and I think the game one grand slam, walk off, we talked about it right after, like that was, that was a mo. That was a moment that'll be replayed and maybe that's the thing you remember. And then from the Yankees front, you're just gonna have the disastrous fifth inning of that game that they should have won. You know, be the moment there. So I think, I think those are the two things you'll remember from the World Series. Whether it's a memorable series, I'm not sure, but I think for the Dodgers, you're gonna remember it. You'll remember this. Like I remember the 2005 World Series with the White Sox that me and like seven other people remember until I. [01:06:06] Speaker B: Forgot they were in the World Series. [01:06:08] Speaker A: They swept the. Yeah, they swept the Astros. [01:06:11] Speaker C: Yeah, the Astros. Yeah. I mean, yeah, give the Dodgers a ton of credit, man, for getting that World Series. You know, I wasn't. It didn't turn out to be a great World Series looking like it had that chance. But Jason's brought it up, you know, the last week, that game one walk off grand slam, that, that just took the heart out of the Yankees soul. And then, you know, all the errors, three errors in that fifth inning, you know, like you said, Rome judge, no errors all season, playoffs, regular season. And that was, that wasn't even a hard play. I mean that was, that was as Routine as routine gets. That's day one. You're. You're doing tryouts for Little League and they're throwing pop flies like up that. Up to you and, you know, rizzle in. The rizzle. And you know, Gary Cole plate, that happens, you know, soft. Soft grounder. Rizzo doesn't want to, you know, rush in, make an air. Cole takes a bad angle, stuff like that happens. But the Volpe throw to third base can't happen. Gary Cole, you get 12 1/3 inning, one earned run, and zero wins this world Series. That, That's a tough pill to swallow of your Yankees. [01:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah, tough. But he'll come back, though. He just resigned. Went back on his old contract, and the off season is underway. [01:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know if we get to the off season talk right now, but I think, you know, the Dodgers are going to be, you know, pretty well situated, but the Yankees got a lot of questions going in the off season. Soto being the biggest one of that. I think Labor Torres is also a free agent. Aaron as well, if I can remember. So. But Judge playing center field, I heard this in some of the Yankee stuff. So you sign Soto and have him in, right. But putting in Judge in center field, it to me is like, do they have the right pieces? You like the bats. But it. But Judge playing center field, I don't think that's the natural position you want him playing in. So when you resign Soto, you kind of have an outfield problem where you have Stanton, you have Judge in these contracts. You want to bring Soto back for his bat, but not defensively in the outfield. I don't think you have, you know, the right configuration where this leaves a liability for the Yankees. It's, you know, not something most fans are going to talk about because they want the big bat in the lineup. But I heard, you know, I heard some, you know, New York media talking about that, whether, you know, we give Soto the, you know, this contract because now you're putting somebody in a wrong outfield spot. That leaves this team open to some vulnerabilities defensively. [01:08:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:08:32] Speaker C: 500 million. Soto, Judge, you don't want him in center field for too long. What is he already 32? I. You know, center field's got to be young. It's got to be your most athletic guy. I mean, don't get me wrong, Judge is, given his age, you don't want him there. Soto, Soto doesn't run well on the outfield. He made some stupid errors. [01:08:50] Speaker B: Doesn't run at all. [01:08:51] Speaker C: I mean, he Let Freddie Freeman get a triple on a freaking one and a half legs, man. That's how bad he takes angles of the ball on the outfield. And that's why the Padres kind of, you know, failed when he. They experimented with him. I would let Soto walk, but at the same time, you don't want him to go to the Dodgers and play DH and, you know, tear it up over there. So a lot of teams got some question marks going forward. We'll see what happens. [01:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that was good. That was good. It's good stuff. I know, man. I've been playing daughter, you know, highlights every single day. Everyone from. Everyone from. From LA just keeps on reposting the same stuff. My favorite meme is they have. I don't know. I don't know if you've seen this, like, this Little League guy. He's like running in slow motion to like, home plate because he thinks like it's like some movie clip. But they put. But they put Soto's face on the, on. On the Little League guy and, and, and Aaron. Boo. Trying to push him along. They're singing like that New York song. New York, New York. He's just like running slow to the home. [01:09:51] Speaker C: Should be. It should be Stanton since he got thrown out at home place, but yeah. [01:09:55] Speaker B: Oh, my God, it's so good. It's so good. Ah, well, we do. [01:10:01] Speaker C: But we do know Aaron Boone will be back next year for the Yankees. I think that was confirmed after the World Series. [01:10:06] Speaker B: I think he should. Who else? Who else are they gonna get? Yeah, yeah, I think the General. [01:10:15] Speaker A: I think Cashman's got the bigger job of the off season of figuring out where. Where to take this roster. Aaron, you bring up Soda. The Dodgers, man, that better not happen, though. That's just like. [01:10:24] Speaker C: I hope, I hope not, man. I really don't. I don't want to see Soto in a Dodger uniform. That would go against what you've been talking about for the last week, Jason. The Dodgers like to build from a van. They got Pahez Outman. They got a lot of outfielders. They don't need another outfielder. They probably need to upgrade. I mean, Lux. Lux hasn't really turned out who they thought they would be coming off that ACL injury. Rojas is old Kiki. Yeah, he, you know, he. He makes some lucky hits here in the playoffs here and there, but he's not your full 162 game guy, so it's very good. [01:10:57] Speaker B: The regular season, they got some holes to fill, but have some guys coming up from the minor leagues this year as well. So we'll see how. [01:11:04] Speaker C: They've always had a good farm system, man. I mean, that's one thing why the Dodgers and Braves for the most part have been good for the last 30 years. They do a great job of developing guys in their farm system. [01:11:15] Speaker B: Braves already retooling, man. It's kind of scary. [01:11:19] Speaker C: They're gonna be in the mix, man. They're gonna be in the mix again. It's. It comes down to health too, man. Braves just didn't have the. The studs in the barn to keep up with the Dodgers this year. That's just how it goes. [01:11:30] Speaker B: Yeah. So this pod goes out tomorrow, November 5th, and then we're a great day. [01:11:41] Speaker A: It. [01:11:42] Speaker B: It's a great day, actually. Kind of wish the election was not tomorrow, but it. It is what it is. We'll see how it goes. Political unrest. Play some another January 6 thing. Maybe we'll see Aaron there and then. [01:11:55] Speaker C: Can't afford to be there, bro. I can't be on anybody's watch list. [01:11:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You know that. [01:12:00] Speaker C: You know I'm gonna say I'm a svp. Scott Van Pelt. Where's got Van Pelt, bro? [01:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah, you could pass on the Scott. That's hilarious. [01:12:09] Speaker A: On. You know, that's it. [01:12:11] Speaker C: Maybe I'll wear glasses for the next pod of these times. [01:12:14] Speaker B: We'll start talking basketball this Wednesday week. This. This Wednesday. Full NBA pod. And then we'll try to sprinkle it in like once every couple weeks. I'm not really sure how you got your boy. [01:12:24] Speaker C: What, Armand and Nick coming on or. [01:12:26] Speaker B: What Arman and Nick are coming on. Armand big Celtics guy, Nick. Not sure, man. But you know, if he can accomplish some meals from his restaurant, that'd be great. And then. And then I do want to get into hockey. I've been watching hockey a lot more this year, so I'm ready to go. I'm gona be going to a hockey. [01:12:45] Speaker C: Game here pretty soon, man. [01:12:46] Speaker B: I want to go to a Penguins game. I. I need to catch Crosby before he's out. [01:12:50] Speaker C: I caught him last year. [01:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah, totally forgot Jason. That's my second hockey team, but gotta. [01:12:57] Speaker A: Be lower than Pittsburgh Blackhawks on a run right now. They came in, came and beat Southern California this weekend, so, you know. [01:13:04] Speaker B: They did. Yeah. Caught the game the other day, but man, great baseball season. Great baseball season, Great baseball season. [01:13:18] Speaker A: Great formula one season. [01:13:20] Speaker B: Great Formula one. Oh, yeah. Dude, what happened to form? I. I'm sorry, dude. I didn't catch Sam Powell. I was hanging out with my daughter. And by the way, we're watching the. The Bears game, and I'm like, dude, Jason's not gonna be happy about it today. Oh, Jason's not gonna be happy about the Bears. You know, she's like mocking me, talking about the Bears. She's like, they're not good, Daddy. I'm like, oh, don't tell Jason. [01:13:39] Speaker C: She knows, man. [01:13:40] Speaker B: Even she knows watching the game. [01:13:42] Speaker C: Who is her team? Or does she just, you know, whoever wins week to week, that's who. She goes. [01:13:47] Speaker B: I don't know who her team's yet. I've been trying to like, like the steals. I bought her a jersey. She doesn't want to wear it. [01:13:51] Speaker C: You buy it. Did you buy her a terrible towel? [01:13:53] Speaker B: No, I gotta buy one. [01:13:54] Speaker C: There you go, man. [01:13:55] Speaker B: But when we're at the Dodger Festival thing, they're like, oh, who's your favorite team? She would not say the Dodgers. She just kept on saying, lakers. Lakers are my team. Lakers are my team. I'm like, well, thank God she got swing the LA teams, because I'm so worried that she's gonna be a Giants fan. We go to the Giants. [01:14:09] Speaker C: Would you leave her there? [01:14:13] Speaker A: At least for Rome? He's got like 20 favorite teams around there, so he just can just throw them all out. Hopefully one, you know, one sticks to be a favorite here. [01:14:22] Speaker B: Well, it's my fault, you know, I take her to like a dozen or so Giants games, and we've been to like a dozen or so. [01:14:26] Speaker C: You live in this, you live in the same dude, so you might as well. [01:14:30] Speaker B: It's so easy to go in and out. You know, the tickets are relatively cheap. [01:14:34] Speaker A: Nice stadium, too. One of my favorites. [01:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great. I love it. Anyways, don't know yet. Don't know what her football team is yet. But, yeah, she's just only rooting for the winners. She's like, oh, dad, the red team's up 1710. Whatever, you know, we'll see how it goes. Anything else to talk about or is that it? [01:14:55] Speaker C: I'm good. [01:14:56] Speaker B: Apologize to everybody that we couldn't get on the pod last week to do lines on Thursday. Lots of stuff going on behind the scenes. But we'll be back on this week for NBA Pod this week as well. For lines on Thursday to be airing on Friday. Catch us on X on Instagram. Jason Aaron Rome source from the Sofa podcast. Catch us next time.