The Hail Mary in Washington, Oregon Ducks Dominate CFB, Dodgers up 3-0, and F1 in Mexico City

[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome back to Sources from the Sofa Podcast. We are recording Monday night post Monday Night Football. A fun game, I guess. I don't know. I'm just a nervous Steelers fan. I don't know if you remember Jason's quote, like, a few weeks ago where he doesn't enjoy watching ABC teams play. And same thing for me, because Dodgers are on, Steelers are on. I'm breaking a sweat here, just sitting my fat ass on the couch, but we coming out top nonetheless. So let's talk a little NFL before we get into a little F1, little baseball, maybe some minor basketball talk, I don't know. But yeah, Steelers, baby. Sitting beautifully atop the AFC north as 6 and 2. Who's got it better than us? Nobody. [00:00:56] Speaker B: This guy's riding hot. This guy's riding high. With Steelers and Dodgers winning in one weekend. [00:01:01] Speaker C: I just want to know what he took before he came on the pod tonight. You know, it is 19 Pacific Standard. [00:01:08] Speaker A: Time right now, but taking some victory juice, baby. Dodgers so close to a shutout. And then Steelers. As I was telling you, Aaron, before, before we got on, watched a little bit of the first, watched a little bit the second, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Giants pulled out that victory, and they almost did. So what'd you guys think of it real quick before we move on to the rest of the NFL week? [00:01:36] Speaker B: Very impressive for the Steelers. I think the switch to Russell Wilson, you know, has given the offense something that it hasn't had really in a couple years for the Steelers. When you think back to, you know, the Kenny Pickett, Mason, Rudolph, everything post Ben Roethlisberger era, the Steelers offense, it. It hasn't really been able to go up and down the field. And I think these last two games, you know, have really proven that. That I think Aaron and I both question the move away from Justin Fields, given where they were at at 4 and 2, what they were able to do at a running game with Warren and Naji Harris and Fields, be able to use their legs. But, I mean, no denying at this point this team's ready to get into that AFC north schedule, which, you know, thought was to be a gauntlet. But with the Bengals not looking hot at all, the Ravens falling down and tripping themselves over the Browns this weekend, maybe. Maybe the Browns are the team that's going to be the reservist with Jameis Winston, I don't know. But, you know, the Steelers looking really good here at 6 and 2 right now, destroying both. Both New York teams in prime time, which gives them that that prime time. Love that the medium is going to. The media is going to hop all over because they've. They've beaten the. The favorites of New York. So very impressive from the Steelers. Man, it must be nice to, you know, root for a team that can, you know, complete a win. [00:02:54] Speaker A: It's very nice, actually. I've been spoiled for many of my years. Kind of helps when you have two teams, though. But let's. Let's just go over some of the games, though, because I know we had some pretty big wins, some pretty big losses. I'm pretty confident. I know we went over some teams that we could just cross off. I'm not sure if it was last week or the week before that, but I would like to maybe cross off a few more this week if you guys feel comfortable doing that. Let's start with biggest losses, I think, besides the jets, maybe. Or was that the biggest win of the weekend for the Patriots? I don't know. [00:03:29] Speaker C: There's no big win when you're from. They go to 2 and 6, man. That's not a big win. [00:03:34] Speaker A: It was a. It was a fun game, though. It was. [00:03:37] Speaker C: Yeah. Entertaining half. [00:03:39] Speaker A: I was kind of shocked that it was so close, and I was just like, you know what? It's getting upgraded to one of the four games on. On the tv. I actually pulled out the tablet so I can have five games, but not good, man. We all said that was a must win. I wasn't shocked at the Pats one because it's practically the same amount of points that they scored the first time around, except checks. Jets actually scored more than 20, but can we cross them off? [00:04:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:05] Speaker C: The jets are done, man. Get rid of them. They're out. [00:04:08] Speaker A: They're done. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Over. Yep. [00:04:09] Speaker A: Nope. No hope. No love. [00:04:11] Speaker C: No. I said. I said last week that the odds of them winning eight of their final 10 was slim. They're not winning eight of their final nine just to have a shot maybe, at getting in the playoffs. They are done. Embrace the darkness, New York. It's going to be a long off season. [00:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah, except there's no ayahuasca. [00:04:32] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. There's too much for them to overcome to win 8 out of 9 like Aaron's talking about. But, you know, each division's got two teams probably ahead of them at this point. You know, Chiefs, Broncos looking good in the West. Even The Chargers at 4 and 3, more competitive than that. The Colts sticking around at 4 and 4. You know, I think they'll fade down the stretch potentially, but they've Been a very tricky team for everyone all year. Steelers, Ravens, lock up two spots there. Bills, I mean, the AFC east is theirs. But the Dolphins, do they find some life now with TUA and they can get the offense where it's supposed to go? Yeah, jets are done. There's. There's no path for them. [00:05:13] Speaker A: Man, who would have thought that the AFC east, they don't have the Bills at top six and two and then everyone else is just three games under.500. [00:05:21] Speaker C: Well, Miami, given what happened to Tua, I think that's kind of their downfall. I mean, they had a chance to win yesterday. Arizona of that go out the buzzer to beat them. I think they had two in the lineup. You'd be looking at least two more wins. Probably would have beaten Arizona just with a little more legwork with him, some more in game going. But Buffalo's looked really good. I, I didn't think Buffalo was going to look this good going forward, but they're going on the road. That defense travels, that run game travels. Josh Allen's been money not turning the ball over. He did throw his first pick of the year last week, but yeah, Buffalo is the team to beat in that division for sure. [00:05:57] Speaker A: They demolished the Seahawks. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Out of all the divisions during like our yearly preview, the AFC east is probably the one Aaron and I got the most wrong. A lot of questions with the Bills, you know, because, hey, you let Diggs go. Don't know what the weapons are on Allen. Is he gonna have to do much himself? You know, the jets had seemingly all these things lined up with a good defense and Rogers had a full year and there were some weapons there at the beginning. The Dolphins had this explosive offense, but hey, the offenses, you know, disappeared in Miami with TUA going out, the jets have been a disaster, front to bed. And, you know, Josh Allen has found a way, you know, to get, you know, all the weapons that he has and now some upgrades, you know, potentially that they brought in the trade deadline. And you know, this win was very impressive to me because, I mean, again, I talk about travel a lot during all of our segments, but you go from upstate New York all the way out to Seattle. Those are always those weird games that all of a sudden, you know, a team that should be favored all of a sudden is going, losing. And they came in and they demolished the Seahawks. [00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah, Seahawks have had some pretty good games. They won their first three. They lost a couple. They looked sharp in the last game. I thought they might come out a little bit better than this. [00:07:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I think not. Having DK Metcalf really hurt. [00:07:12] Speaker A: I think it's really big. Yeah, I was about to mention that. That's a big one. [00:07:14] Speaker C: I mean, I like Seattle going into that game and then I saw DK was out and got. Got off one. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:20] Speaker C: But it was. It was a rough weekend across the books, man. The books. The books stuck it to us in the NFL this week and no doubt about that. [00:07:27] Speaker A: Let's talk about another big loss. Bengals. That was another must. When we talked about. I can't even. That was watching that game at first, but it was just ugly. It was just ugly. And then Eagles kind of took off in the second half. 37, 17 loss thoughts on the banks. [00:07:46] Speaker C: Bengals are done, man. [00:07:47] Speaker A: They're done done as well. [00:07:48] Speaker C: They're done 0 and 4 at home. Jason talked about it last week on the pod, like you've got to win a home game. They were favored Eagles, who, you know, I wasn't really impressed with, maybe now looking a little bit better. Maybe they figured some things out. Getting healthy on offense there with Brown and Smiths. But yeah, I mean, Bengals, T. Higgins going out late in the week Friday of that quad injury not being able to play on Sunday and the defense not showing up. Cincinnati, another team done stick a fork in them. [00:08:24] Speaker B: The schedule doesn't get really any easier for them. They still got another game against Baltimore. They got two games left with the Steelers. They got a, you know, Denver at the Chargers in a couple weeks. So, you know, even though 3 and 5 doesn't seem like it's. It's. It's an alarming thing. But at the same time, like, they're gonna have to get to 10 games from a win perspective. And I don't know if they have seven wins in them right now. [00:08:50] Speaker A: So like, we're like, let's just call it the halfway mark. Half the teams have eight games underneath the belt, if not seven. But every time this year, there's always at least a team or two that is sitting exactly where the Bengals are at at 3 and 5. They're all but out and then all of a sudden they go on a run and they make the playoffs. It happens every single year. I think Bills were the team last year. Steelers I think were one of the teams of the year prior. If it's not the Bengals, let's take a look at all the teams. Like, who can possibly be that team? Or should they kind of like reserve that for to see what happens after week nine. [00:09:27] Speaker C: Well, I think you're looking for a team be the Rams, the Rams would be the most likely team. [00:09:34] Speaker A: My God, they looked good. They looked really good with those two weapons. [00:09:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't disagree with Aaron, especially what everything is out west right now. You have a three, maybe all four team race that's all around, you know, 500, you know, for that division. And the Rams are getting everyone back at the right time. The niners still got McCaffrey waiting in the wings, but you give it to Sean McVeigh to figure some things out. And yeah, I agree with Aaron on the Rams going back to the Bengals. I think they're, you know, they're only saving grace if you're talking about putting a run together. You know, we said the same thing last week. They need to win this game at home. But hey, they're gonna play against the Raiders and then they go through a rough stretch for a couple weeks. But then, hey, they get a pretty bad Cowboys team and the Titans, Browns mixed in there. But all these turn into must win games versus, you know, you can't have the slip up like maybe the Ravens did versus the Browns this week. The Bengals are to bring it every week and that's. It's. It's a tightrope to walk down the stretch. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Yeah. No. Rams probably look the best out of all those three and four teams. Seahawks. I don't know what kind of Rams. [00:10:47] Speaker C: Rams are at Seattle this weekend. [00:10:50] Speaker A: It's gonna be a big game. [00:10:51] Speaker C: That's a big game. So depending on how stuff plays out, given how Arizona plays against Jason Spares, you could have the Rams in first place in the division with a win and the Niners being on a buy since they beat them already back in week two. [00:11:06] Speaker A: But then we'll be losing our early season pick for the Seahawks having that second spot. Aaron, it's over. [00:11:12] Speaker C: I'm not ready to give up on Seattle yet. That's not a good game. Seattle's been proven once they've had bad games, they can bounce back and play a good game. [00:11:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:21] Speaker C: But, yeah, that's. They'll be. They'll be on the afternoon screen games to watch for. Sure. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Some other big wins. Falcons, that was a big win for them. I think now that's their division for the taking. Bucks, so many turnovers. Baker, Bayfield had seven in the last three games. It's a turnover machine. And they still had a chance to win. It was unbelievable. Texans inched out away from the Colts despite Richardson's. You know, you guys talked about him and I was given the benefit of the doubt last week. He was 2 for 15 in the first half, 60 something yards. [00:12:00] Speaker C: Tape don't lie, man. The tape does not lie. [00:12:03] Speaker A: And I was watching this game, I'm just like, dude, he looks really, really bad. He took himself out at the end of the first half because he's tired. You're the franchise quarterback, homie. And then, you know, this is the first time actually I've actually heard other broadcasters talk about maybe just putting in Flacco in, you know, for the rest of the season because they do have a chance to compete to win the division, but at the very least get a playoff spot. And at that point in time I was like, you know what? Maybe it is time. There's just not enough coming around. Richardson at this point in time, it looks like he's regressed a lot actually in the past few weeks. [00:12:40] Speaker B: The talent's undeniable. I think no one can question that. He has incredible speed, incredible size, can throw the ball a mile, but in a league where you have to minimize turnovers, you have to be super accurate with the ball. There's always those questions to me on quarterbacks who don't get tons of starts in college as they kind of go through. And what do you, Aaron, do you start 13 games in college at Florida or something like that? [00:13:06] Speaker C: Yeah, 13 games, one season. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, I mean, I go back as a Bears fan, like Mitch Trubisky was like the same thing. He got like one year of starting, I think at North Carolina and there's been some other instances of that. But you know, these, these guys need reps. And then especially when you're talking from a pro style offense, I always get worried on the quarterbacks that, I mean, it's great to have the ability to run, but the ones that tend to be a run first option, you know, don't sit in, into the pocket, you know, that can make those plays there at the next level. They're just going to struggle when they haven't got the reps. I mean, even Lamar, you know, Lamar had plenty of reps at Louisville and you know, really was a prolific passer there where everything they talked about Richardson in college and you know, Aaron's more of a college expert than me, but I mean, this guy was just running all the time at Florida and there's really nothing that was like, hey, he's going to have the arm, you know, the arm ability within the pocket to make plays that doesn't rely on his legs. [00:14:06] Speaker C: Well, yeah, I mean, he was a surprise pick. I think he went what, four fifths there in that first Round number four. And that was kind of, you know, that was a reach. You know, like Jason said, the talent, the talent was there, the arm talents there, the athleticism. I mean, he was doing his pro day. I think he was doing like gymnastics backflips, like just from 50 yard line all the way to the end zone. Crazy athletic, crazy strength. But obviously the Stanham was not there. We saw that by pulling himself out of the game. I've never heard a quarterback pull himself out of the game because he was tired. [00:14:36] Speaker B: I mean, I, I give it to him. [00:14:39] Speaker C: I just. You just tell the coach you're tired and you hand the ball off. Everybody, every quarterback knows that. You just hand the ball off, you know, pat yourself on the head. The quarterback knows, hey, call a draw and then boom, you catch your breath. Another 40 seconds in the huddle, you're good to go. [00:14:52] Speaker A: You know, in the coast defense and, and Steichen, they did spend a fourth round pick. And I think, you know, why not? You know, you have to know what you have right at that, at that pick. And it's only halfway year two, so I don't blame them for keeping them in. But also I am starting to come around the corner where, you know, why not put Flacco in and let him learn a little bit for the rest of the year. [00:15:15] Speaker C: Well, they got good weapons, man, they got good wide receivers, good. Taylor's grid on the running back. So I mean, yeah, we, we know he only played what, five games last year. Got hurt, had the shoulder. Not really sure if that's contributing to the accuracy problems. He wasn't very accurate in college. That was the big, big thing coming out 13 games, the speed talents there. But accuracy is a big, big issue. You know, Josh Allen had the same question marks and his accuracy is improved. So we'll see if the accuracy can get better on him. But if it doesn't, then, you know, he's, he's going to be a washout or one of these. He's gonna be, he's gonna be Justin Fields. Yeah, that's what he's gonna end up being in the game. [00:15:53] Speaker A: He had this 70 yard dime. It was the longest one of his career. Longest one of the NFL season. And then he had like another throw that's just terrible, 10 yards out. It reminded me of like that Seinfeld episode where George Costanza supposedly spotted somebody cheating on some, you know, somebody. Things in Seinfeld's apartment. He takes a bite of what's supposed to be an apple, but it's an onion. And Elaine's like, this is the guy that saw him, you know, saw whoever was at the know park cheating, whatever. He's like, I know what I saw. I squinted. [00:16:20] Speaker B: That's, that's, that's when you, that's when he was driving. He was spotting the squirrels. He squinted and was spotting the squirrels on the car with, with Jerry when he go, yeah, I was spotting the squirrels. But yeah, there I, you know, there's something to be said. And I don't know if we're gonna get to this point. The salary cap may make this impossible, but you look at Patrick Mahomes, he sat that year behind Alex Smith. Jordan Love, several years behind Aaron Rodgers. You know, there's something to be said for these guys, like sitting and getting the preparation with a veteran, getting the reps in practice where they can, you know, getting the team around them to succeed. Not everyone has to start like the first one. Like, you know, and. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Right. [00:17:08] Speaker B: I mean, I think, I think the, you know, the Bears and the commanders with, with, you know, with Caleb and Jaden may be like different at this point where they're setting up for the team. But like when you have a team that is, you know, bad, let's just say like Bryce Young and as bad as the Carolina Panthers are, it's not fair to him at that point to like jump right in like he probably shouldn't have started last year. And then I think they're maybe regretting that decision this year and giving him the reps behind Andy Dalton and what you can grow to. So I mean they're, if they're talking about the actual investment in some of these quarterbacks, like it may take time if an organization understands what they're doing. I think for the, but for the fact of the matter is there's a lot of these organizations are just gonna be super impatient and they're just going to move on and on to the next guy. And for the cold specifically, you know, they went to that couple year cycle where they were just bringing all the retread washed old guys in where they had rivers come in and then they had Carson Wentz and you know, they had all this talent around them. They're like, okay, we can, we can patch to work with this quarterback. Okay, that didn't work for a couple years. We stretch and reach, reach and get Richardson. But now, hey, another, another older veteran who maybe you don't think has to wear on the tires or Flacco might be the better chance for this team to win right now and maybe give Richardson the time there. But it's, it's an interesting dilemma the head coach gives because this is a playoff team. Unlike the Panthers, who are, you know, starting Dalton for a few weeks when they have a team that's like so bad. [00:18:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm looking at, I mean the Colts are in trouble. I'm looking at their next couple games. They got at Minnesota, Buffalo, the Jets, then the Lions. That's their next four games. And I mean, blitz happy Brian Flores, he, he's gonna love seeing Richardson back there. You know, they mentioned The Texans blitz 60 of the time. Got like 25 pressures on them. So yeah, I would send them. I mean, Shane Steichen we know is a great quarterbacks coach. Coordinator Justin Herbert had his best year under him his rookie year. Jalen hurts MVP under Shane Steichen. So he's with probably the best guy he can be with as far as coaches, young coaches have been developing quarterbacks and if he doesn't continue to improve, that, that's a concern for me. But I would sit him, let him learn, let him, let him study film, let him practice because he just, he can't make, he can't make the simple 5, 7 yard passes. And if you can't make those on Sunday, you, you ain't going to succeed in this league. [00:19:23] Speaker A: Despite everything, they still almost upset the Texans. That's how much talent the Colts have. Or Steichen is a really good coach. Either one. That was pretty fun to watch. Let's talk about though, since Jason kind of already, you know, mentioned them. That beautiful, beautiful game in the capital of this beautiful country in Washington D.C. bears against the Commanders, two rookie of the Year candidates. Jaden Daniels, in my opinion, number one right now, he's in some MVP conversations. I think he's like the fifth favorite right now. Odds Commanders commanded the ball. They, they dominated time of possession, had more yards, twice as many yards. Whatever it was. Daniels looked pretty sharp even with those, you know, bruised up baby back ribs. Then I forgot. Swift broke out for a big touchdown run. Cale Williams got, you know, some grease in those elbows. Had some nice throws in the second half and then they, then they had the lead, they got the touchdown and we're up 15, whatever the hell it was. I can't do math right now, but they were up 12, 12 and with what, 20 seconds left on the clock? What was 25, 25 seconds left on the clock. And we see, I don't know what might be like one of the best Hail Marys we've seen in a long time. If not ever. It was, it was pretty crazy. Daniels had about 10 seconds running around in and out of the pocket, going the left, left hand side, throwing a 60 plus yards, a nice throw into the end zone. And I don't know, Jason, the whoever was, you know, taunting the, the, the fans there on the right side, Tyreek Stevenson, he's the one that comes up the middle of the group and taps the ball up and it lands beautifully behind everyone else and into the hands of the Commanders for the victory. What do you guys think of that game? Jason, what'd you think of that game? [00:21:28] Speaker B: It was a terrible game. Regardless of the ending. How I feel like that it was. The Bears looked horrible on offense through the first. For that first half, Caleb did not look good. Offensive line did not protect him well. They, they couldn't establish any sort of thing, you know, running game. The Commanders, you know, I don't want to be the negative Jaden Daniels guy, but like he didn't look great in this game either for a lot of it, you know, he if as far as like getting the team, you know, they didn't score any touchdowns until the Hail Mary. Like I got everything in the field go in the field goal range. So the Bears defense did their job and really shut Jaden down, you know, and kept him because this, this should have been a blowout. Should have been a blowout and it was only 12 to nothing at a certain point. Like we only got four field goals out of the commander. So it wasn't a very watchable game. And the Commanders let the Bears hang around in there and you know, huge put run by Swift. You mentioned Caleb took him down for a pressed drive. But the overall theme of this, as many will talk about last night and today, is the coaching staff lost the game because in a game you were necessarily not, you should have not have been in towards the end, you're able to find a way to get there. And the defense held the Bears into the game and then stupid decisions such as hanging the ball to your offensive lineman as a fullback and fumbling the ball at the one yard line. Then when you have 25 seconds or whatever instead left in the game, you put your defense all the way back, you know, 75 yards away from the play and allow a 13 to 14 yard quick out from Terry McLaren to allow Jaden Daniels to get an easier throw around midfield instead of them really clamping down the sides and making sure they couldn't get out of bounds and letting them take whatever they want in the middle of the field. You know, to just waste clock. So horrible setup there. You mentioned Stevenson. I think it was what it was. It's getting a lot of traction where, you know, he was at. But why are the Bears not calling a timeout ahead of that play to get everyone lined up? And there's a lot of Bears doing interviews today that are casually talking about probably questioning coaching decisions there. And you call a time out there, get your defense set. What are the defensive backs? Who's on who? I mean it was a clinic of poor coaching and that's what's getting roasted today. And Rome, you put Eber fluss in that top five of your people on the hot seat. This is the type of game that gets, that gets a coach fired because this is a game they should have won that at the end. You know, ultimately if you looked at, you look like after the fourth quarter, they probably shouldn't have won that game. But hey, you come this out, how good is zebra flu looking that his defense, which is really what's carrying this team right now, not the offense. This is a, this is a Super bowl defense right now. But you have, yeah, it's a Super bowl defense. Like you're, you're a top defense. You shut down, you know, the offense everyone is one talking about and they really did nothing all the game. [00:24:45] Speaker A: So you know, Chicago's defense is really good. I don't think they shut down Daniels as much as you said they did because I think he saw at 300 yards, but they shut down the commanders when it mattered most and that was when in the red zone. I think the commanders were at oh over four for getting touchdowns. They managed to get three field goals out of that. I don't remember what happened on another possession, but they clamped down when it, when it mattered most. So they kept having this game. [00:25:11] Speaker B: The Bears let up yards. Like I don't, I don't look at yards. You can throw yards all day, but you the like, you look at the Bears like they keep everyone under 20 points. If the Bears score 20 points, they win every game. The I think the only game Aaron could check me on this, the only game they've allowed more than 20 points was the loss to the Colts. Like everywhere else, they clamped down on all these teams like under 20 points. So they're going to give you field goals and stuff, get out. But when it comes down to the red zone, they're clamping down. And that's where know Jaden Daniels was great versus all these other teams. Like this is. This is a defense that you know, what are you looking at, Rome? I see, I see a face. You're looking at something. [00:25:47] Speaker C: He's looking to see the Bears probably gonna. Yeah, I mean, the Bears defense is good and they are super bowl defense, no doubt about that. But yeah, the mistakes that, you know, Jason mentioned, you know, not being prepared on that play, rushing three guys, having a guy spy a quarterback, like, what is he going to do? He's going to run side to side by time to throw the ball. And then you got four guys, three, four guys on one wide receiver and then a wide receiver, Noah Brown on the backside catches that tip. Bears had a lot go wrong coming out of a bye week. They look terrible. I mean, they look bad. On office 30. I think it was 36 passing yards for Caleb after three quarters they couldn't get anything going. Not they made nothing easy. No short passes, no like, hey, little five yard, six yard routes to Allen or something to get them going. No rhythm. The Davis gonna do a job of keeping, you know, Jayden Daniels and keeping that offense from getting big plays down the field. That's, that's what the Bears do. They make you earn drives and like Jason said, once you get in the red zone, they clamp down and they force field goals. They don't have a problem with that. And then you give it to your backup center to run it in. I mean, he never even got the ball. I mean it bounced off his belly right into the defender's hands like, boom. [00:27:00] Speaker B: I mean, you think of two drives this year where the Bears have lost. Now they lost the Colts game because they ran an option on 4th inches and literally didn't and like turned the ball over, didn't score a touchdown. Now you fumble the ball at the one because you give the ball to your backup center there like the. You pay Deandre Swift and Roshan Johnson and I don't know where Khalil Herbert is, but apparently we don't play him anymore. I was like, you pay these guys to drive, drive ahead and score touchdowns within the five yard line or hell, I mean if you're gonna. I don't want to sneak it with Caleb Williams around that thing, but even that point. But give the playmakers the ball, run the ball forward in these instances and it's just, it's just you. I spend my life as a Chicago Bears fan questioning coaching because I, I never see good ones. And I'm waiting for one of these offensive coordinators to click. Shane Waldron was terrible to start the year. We did so many episodes on that and he finally was kind of, he was, he was getting some rhythm. Listen to the players on feedback, where it's at. But to Aaron's point, coming out of the bye week, great coaches win out of the bye week. Coaches that get fired lose these type of games out of the bye week. And these are the questions around Eberflussen. Now last year they had three games last year the Bears lost where they were like win probability of like 95% or better in the fourth quarter where they blew like 10 point leads. This is another one of those type of games that now the win probability was like at 99% for the Bears in the fourth quarter and they lose. And that's not what great head coaches do. [00:28:36] Speaker A: So my worst, the Ravens. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Yeah, but once in a while, but you have four in two years right now. Like, you know it's going to happen here and there. Like, but he hasn't got the wins ahead of him to really show where things are at. And this is going to be the cycle that I told you in an earlier pod for the Bears. You look at 2017, they draft Mitch Trubisky, they kept John Fox, they sucked. They fired John Fox. He had Mitch Trubisky had to learn another offense the next year when they hired Nagy, then that didn't work out. They, they drafted Fields, they kept Nagy. Justin Fields had to learn a second offense. They fire Nagy and hire Eberflusse. Now this year they kept, they kept Eberfluss, they got rid of Fields, they drafted Caleb Williams. Now you're in a position where they, they fire Eber Fl, now he's learning another offense after that. So the Bears sins go back to just like the jets where they should have fired the coach last season and now you wasted an entire year potentially. So I mean it's not, it's not over for the Bears. But like these, this is what's, this is what sets the head coaches apart. And you have all the national media, you know, calling for basically the firing of Eber Flu right now because the whole league's basically laughing at that last play is this is what you do not do. And again, we had the podcast a couple times ago where you're talking, are these guys coordinators or are they the CEO of this football team? And this is what shows to me Eber Fluss is a top notch defensive coordinator that puts out a Super bowl defense, but he doesn't make the decisions and get the team prepared in the right situations to win consistently. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Well, I could say you definitely sound like a passionate Paris fan. I don't think people have been calling for Heber flu's job to be taken away. I think he's been. I think he's. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Oh no. You had Mike Greenberg this morning calling for it. I think Cowherd was calling for it. So you, you had a lot of people in circles today. [00:30:35] Speaker C: It's an unexcusable loss, man. Matt Eberflu's that, that's a bad loss. And that's like Jason said, those are losses that get you canned and eventually will be at the end of the year. Get him canned. [00:30:47] Speaker A: I think it was a steal. If they would have won that game, I don't think it was expected for them to win. [00:30:52] Speaker C: They were favorites. [00:30:55] Speaker B: Yeah, they were. They were favorites. But like the. It could have been a good game. I would have been fine with the loss, but not in that way. And it would have been a bad loss too if they wouldn't have knocked out the offense there. And they lost 15 to nothing too because the offense couldn't it together. So I mean, all in all it was an utter coaching failure just from the preparation and being ready for that bye week. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Fair enough. I did hear those shows, but I must admit that Missile segments. Let's move on. Biggest win of the week. Most convincing win of the week. [00:31:31] Speaker C: Let me see. Biggest win of the week. Probably Arizona Cardinals. Man, that's a big win for them. Back to back games winning with kicks at the end. 4 and 4. Got a home game coming up against Jason's Bears. Big game. I mean if the Bears lose that playoffs be looking slim given what that division looks like. So. Yeah, probably. Probably the Cardinals biggest win of the weekend. [00:31:58] Speaker A: It's a dog fight in the NFC west, man. Cardinals in first nine is right behind them. They got a much needed win last night. Four and four. That's gonna be a fun second half battle. [00:32:14] Speaker B: You want to give us 60 seconds on the 70 Chiefs, Rome or. [00:32:19] Speaker A: You know, I got no opinions on the chase right now. I got nothing. Is this the most unh. [00:32:26] Speaker B: Is this the most unheralded 70 team of all time? They're. [00:32:29] Speaker A: They're not a good 70 team and I'm the only one that doesn't have the number one. [00:32:34] Speaker C: Basically, the Chiefs are the be. Except they don't fumble away the game at the end. They win those games with their defense. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Or offense to them and they recover and they win it. It's the. The Raiders almost fought the. The opposite. [00:32:48] Speaker C: Raiders playing tough, man. Yeah, even. Even when The Chiefs give him a gift on first and go out the three. They can't even get in. [00:32:54] Speaker A: That pissed me off. I was pulling my hair. I'm like, what the. This is it, guys. [00:32:59] Speaker B: I just. [00:33:00] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:33:01] Speaker B: I just want to know. In any time in sports history, a two time defending champion that comes out the gate halfway through the season, undefeated, like no one believes in. [00:33:13] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know. What's the last time that's happened, to be honest with you. It's been a long time. Maybe not in football or. We haven't had a lot of repeat champions in the last 10 years, so we have to go back. [00:33:26] Speaker C: Well, I think. I think it really has to do. All of their schedule outside of the Ravens, they haven't played a team that has a record over.500. And regardless, we got the Chargers, but they've owned the chargers and won 11 straight against them. [00:33:38] Speaker A: Yeah, and these divisional games, you know, I was not gonna be shocked that the Raiders won it. I was really hoping for it. But yeah, seven. Zero, I thought. And, and, and you know what if. [00:33:47] Speaker C: They go and they're gonna beat Tampa Bay on Monday night. Coming up, a depleted team. Another depleted team they get. [00:33:54] Speaker A: You know, I. But I will give Baker Mayfield always a puncher's chance. [00:34:01] Speaker B: Well, I think the problem within this game is, like, the Chiefs defenses, it's super bowl champion and. And they're gonna force those mistakes. I don't know if you're looking ahead to when Kansas City goes to Buffalo, obviously, and Josh Allen showing up. [00:34:13] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. I'm hoping that's when they finally get one loss at least. But it looks like they're gonna be locking up that number one seed pretty fast. And this. It makes me sad. It makes me really sad. Anything else the NFL you guys want to talk about? Man, it was a. It was a fun weekend. It was a lot of close games. Lions looking dominant. I'm loving that one. [00:34:38] Speaker C: Yeah, Lions look good. Jordan love. Jordan love. Getting hurt for the packers doesn't sound serious. [00:34:44] Speaker A: Not too serious, but Jags showing some fight in that one. Browns looking really different with James Winston. I think they've had. They were like, what, like two for, like, 30 something on third down conversions, like less than 10, which is like unheard of in the NFL. They had eight third down conversions in this past game against the Ravens. I was pretty cool. [00:35:04] Speaker C: Well, Rome, this is what we've been calling for for months. [00:35:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I know. [00:35:08] Speaker C: Get him out of There, you know, Jason had mentioned, look, given the contract to Watson, you can't move them on. But the football gods took care of that. And now we got Jameis Winston and some real football going on in Cleveland. [00:35:19] Speaker A: People were kind of like a little hard, like how you should have like two interception that game. And I remember those, but dude, a lot of quarterbacks should have had them as well. But he did good, man. His speech in the beginning of the, of the, of the game was inspirational. It was great. I like him. He's really fun. Giving a little Eminem love quotes at the end of the game too. Looking. [00:35:38] Speaker C: He's a character, man. He's a character back from his days at Florida stage. Hey, character. [00:35:43] Speaker A: I hope he does well. I hope he does well. Not too well, but well enough to, to, you know, resuscitate his career a little bit. That's all I got for the NFL. It was a, it was an action packed weekend, though. The morning games killed it. They're great. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Yep. [00:35:58] Speaker A: Sorry about that loss, Jason. [00:36:01] Speaker B: You know, just. Yeah. And there wasn't much to say, man. It's bad. [00:36:07] Speaker A: All right, let's do a quick break. Let's come back and talk some college football. All right, we're back for some college football talk. Week nine in the books. Do we have a new number one? [00:36:28] Speaker C: Not Oregon one. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Okay, same number one. My bad. But it was fun nonetheless. Oh, yeah, they. They destroyed Illinois. Forgot. [00:36:40] Speaker C: Yeah, Jason called that one. [00:36:42] Speaker A: He did. We have some close up sets here. [00:36:44] Speaker B: One. One thing I got right this weekend. [00:36:47] Speaker A: Well, your boys won pretty. Clemens Lee too. Over. Over Navy. [00:36:52] Speaker B: They were looking great out there. [00:36:54] Speaker A: They're no longer ranked anymore. Destroyed them. We had some close calls, including Nebraska almost pulling off the upset against Ohio State. So close. So close, but no cigar. [00:37:11] Speaker B: Can't imagine how big Roman would be smiling if he gets the Dodgers, the Steelers and then Nebraska beating Ohio State too. [00:37:20] Speaker C: He was like, he was like all high on that upset. We're like, dude, take it easy. Got the Nebraska hoodie on. Take it easy. And then like literally five minutes ago, they're up. It's like, oh, maybe I know Rome's like sitting there like, come on, guys, just do it. Just told you guys. Yeah, I'll take, I'll take a Yankees win to get a Nebraska win tonight. Tonight. Come on, let's see what. [00:37:41] Speaker A: I thought the Yankees would win today, dude. Like, all right. I totally lost my concentration. Yeah. Nebraska. I was really excited. Pumped up. Kansas State. Almost goes down. Barely escaping Kansas. And Aaron was right. LSU went down. Texas A M took them down pretty convincingly in Texas. Barely escaped Vanderbilt. Diego Pavia, whatever his name was, came really close on that one. Other than that, though, everybody ranked kind of did. Oh, SMU barely escaped a win as well from Duke. 2027. What's your biggest takeaways from college football, guys? [00:38:21] Speaker C: I would say Oregon's continuing dominance right now is impressive. I mean, Jason was all over that. You know, being that Illinois is his second team behind Notre Dame, he said, hey, look there. There's a reason why they're 211 1/2 point dog. They're gonna get walloped. They did 35, 3. Final score. What was it? 35, 9, 38, 9. Whatever it was, that game wasn't even close. Oregon, they're. They're fitting the bill, man. They're fitting the bill. They got a good D line, good O line. They look like the best team in the country to me right now. And they're definitely going to be in the playoff. I'm not worried about them. Whether or not they lose down the road or not, they're going to be in the playoff. [00:38:59] Speaker B: Phil Knight wants this national championship, you know, before he dies. I don't know how much money he's put into the University of Oregon in our lifetime, but it's been significant amount. And, you know, everything they're talking through in the last couple years in the portal is basically, he's got an open checkbook to bring lineman, you know, to Oregon, which generally, you know, when they play SEC schools is their biggest liability because they could always have been explosive on offense. They've had skill players on the. On the back and side, on defense, at corner, but became into the trenches. Oregon was always the most vulnerable. This is probably the best, you know, front line, you know, both sides of the ball Oregon has had, which makes them, yeah, I think, the most likely to be a national title contender. I think even the year they went against Nick Saban in the national title game and never was really close because Bama dominated, you know, in the trenches. And this is where this Oregon team potentially sets themselves apart from the teams of the past. [00:40:00] Speaker A: Are you, Aaron? [00:40:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Agree, definitely, man. Oregon, defensively, that's that. I mean, defensively, outside of the game against Boise State, they've been great against the run. You know, they control the line of scrimmage. Against Ohio State, they've gone into the Big Ten. We've seen a lot of schools, like I said, usc, that would be their big struggle. Could they handle the physicality of the Big Ten? USC can't that's why they're 4 and 4. Oregon has explosive players on the outside. They could run the ball. They got the quarterback that's in the Heisman running but controlling the trenches. That's the key. Where Texas is soft, Oregon is not. [00:40:39] Speaker A: Interesting. Lsu, Texas A M was a pretty fun game and I think we're talking about the quarterback. Last week I mentioned Nussmeyer might be like projected like QB1 for next year the or the year after draft. He finally had a stinker, man. Three interceptions looked really badly. Marcel Reed, he came in right? [00:41:04] Speaker C: Yeah. True freshman. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't remember what he did but he just ran. [00:41:09] Speaker C: He just ran the ball down the LSE's throat into the end zone like four different times. [00:41:13] Speaker A: Yeah, they ran away in the second half 38, 23 really convincing and I think their coach is starting some shade at the previous coach post game conference. [00:41:23] Speaker C: Hey, hey man, take it easy on Jimbo, bro. 2014 you brought up championship to Florida State, man. Keep Jimbo out of your mouth. Coach Elko, I love you but keep him out of your mouth, bro. [00:41:33] Speaker B: I mean Texas A and M looks really impressive. I mean this is a great win. You know they've been. They've stepped their game up as they've gotten into SEC play, you know, knocking down Missouri when everyone thought they were good but really put a beating on them. You know, put a lot of points up against Mississippi State. Impressive win here against lsu. They don't have a ton of obstacles really until their last game of the year against Texas. And I think Aaron agree with this. They are better than Texas. And so you know it's going to be an interesting show down there at the end of the year because I think it's a play in game to the playoff between A and M and Texas. [00:42:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it looks like a playing game for at least the SEC championship. If both teams have one loss going in that game maybe they still both get in. Texas is scheduled soft A and M. A and M has South Carolina this weekend at South Carolina. That's going to be a really really tough game. They get past that like Jason mentioned, they'll get Texas at home. 105-000 screaming fans. It's going to be tough to win there Quinnowers. I. I don't believe Texas can go in there and win but we'll find out. So yeah, I mean another team came up with a big win. Losing their quarterback didn't play the second half was Penn State at Wisconsin. I thought Wisconsin would go in there and win. They controlled that game early first half. Then they threw a pick six. Kind of turned the momentum. Penn State give them a lot of credit going into Madison, Wisconsin and getting a big winch. Setting up a big showdown at home in Happy Valley of Ohio State this weekend. [00:43:07] Speaker A: What do you guys think about Colorado? Now they're ranked number 23 and Dion's yapping again about a lot of things. Heisman no one gave it his son Love Travis Hunter. The best college football player in the world. Not enough respect. [00:43:23] Speaker B: I think Travis Hunter deserves the Heisman consideration over Shadur. I mean I think he's single handedly, you know, it's around since they single handedly but like playing on both sides of the ball and what he's able to do is, is, you know, it's something that I think is sets him apart in a Heisman race. I, I know there's a lot of talk, you know, versus you know, a Gentry in the, in the Boise State. But I mean Colorado, they got the skill. It just depends, you know, can they get the cohesive group together, you know, to, to win and then, you know, I think, you know, can the offensive line hold up and give shadow enough time and you know, defensively, everything going to be sound to be able to, you know, I mean the Big 12 is a, is a conference that is winnable. You know, no one's really stepped up and kind of gone away. So I mean that's a huge benefit for them right now. [00:44:13] Speaker A: Here's the rest of their schedule. They're at 62 right now. [00:44:16] Speaker C: Yeah, let me pull Texas Tech. [00:44:18] Speaker A: They're at Texas Tech. [00:44:19] Speaker C: It's soft, man. [00:44:19] Speaker A: Not this upcoming week. They have a bye week, but the week after that. Then they have Utah visiting them, which, you know, we know their main quarterback is out for the year. Then they go into Kansas. [00:44:31] Speaker C: That'll be a tough game at Kansas, man. [00:44:33] Speaker A: This is just like Wisconsin, right? They're always just like kind of gritty and like to ruin other people's seasons. And then Oklahoma State, which for some reason I'm just drawing a blank on right now. [00:44:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean their schedule looks really good. I mean credit Dion for getting those guys bowl eligible and getting over the five and a half win total. So if you had the over there, congrats on cashing that in. [00:44:52] Speaker A: Did not see that happening. [00:44:54] Speaker C: Big 12 is open right now, like Jason said, I mean outside of BYU and Iowa State, I mean BYU is not getting any respect from anybody. We mentioned it on Thursday. How do you go into Central Florida who lost three in a row? As a three point underdog, they just demolished them. You know, I'm gonna keep cashing in on BYU if they're gonna keep getting disrespected like that, because that's, that's been easy money. We've been on BYU like for a month. Iowa State's good, but they lost to Kansas State. So they've got a lot of work to do still to get into the Big 12 title game. But I mean, yeah, I mean, Colorado's been getting love from everybody. Sugar, Sanders, Travis Hunter, they've been getting plenty of love, man. Dion, I mean, Dion just likes to bark and say, hey, look at us now. Look at us now. They got lucky for their own Hail Mary against Baylor, who's an okay team. They got a few fortunate wins here, but yeah, they're playing better. But outside of those guys, I don't think they have the cohesive unit and the strength within the defense and offensive line to really stand in there and really compete with the big boys. I mean, if they do get to the playoff, they'll get blown out by whoever they play. [00:46:07] Speaker A: Big Ten dominate the top four, SEC dominate the bottom half of the top ten. And then you have the Big 12 and some ACC schools underneath that. BYU, Iowa State, both undefeated. [00:46:22] Speaker C: Do those teams play each other? They do not. [00:46:26] Speaker B: Now BYU's schedule, I mean, they got a rivalry game against Utah. They play Kansas, but at home add or is Arizona State and then Houston. So BYU's got a chance to go undefeated here and be in the Big 12 title game, I guess, against Iowa State, if they can keep it up. [00:46:44] Speaker C: Yeah. See, Iowa State's got Kansas State. It looks like the end of the year. So that could be the eliminator to get in there to play which it sounds like byu, which would leave Colorado on the outside looking in since they lost to Kansas State. [00:46:56] Speaker B: Yep. [00:46:59] Speaker A: Cool. Any other thoughts on football? College football. [00:47:02] Speaker C: That is big one for Boise State Friday night at unlv. That keeps them on the trajectory to get into that playoff as a 12 seed. [00:47:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Was it as close as the score indicated? I don't. [00:47:12] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a close game. That was a close game. [00:47:14] Speaker A: I think I missed the second half. So Friday night I took guys advice and went out for a drink after that epic World Series game one. And I had a couple drinks. Indeed. And don't know how I made it home. Woke up Saturday and I was in a rough spot. So I was watching college football, trying to sober up, drinking pedialytes. I bought three of them. Three 1.5 liter pedialytes and drank them all. Even did a liquid IV. Couldn't eat. I was not feeling good. It was. It was two weeks not drinking. And those GNTs. I think someone might have bought me a this cow shot. Maybe a bourbon shot too. I don't remember. But I was out cold. How to recoup in time for game two. So call shall blur this weekend. [00:48:00] Speaker C: Yeah, man. It's kind of a blur. Like your Pittsburgh Panthers, Man 70 just kind of sneaking in there in the top 20. [00:48:07] Speaker A: I was asking about them two weeks ago. [00:48:09] Speaker C: I. I got my eye on them. I. They are gonna. I think they're gonna make this list of games to watch this week. Just a little FYI on that. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:48:18] Speaker C: Little heads up. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Okay. [00:48:20] Speaker B: I didn't know. I didn't know the pit Panthers were one of his teams. [00:48:23] Speaker A: No, they're not. They're just. [00:48:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:48:26] Speaker A: I'm just digging them. [00:48:27] Speaker C: It was his. Rome said keep an eye on them. I think three weeks ago, yeah, I was keeping an eye on them. Now they've really caught my attention, so. [00:48:37] Speaker A: And this one, they let everyone down. Cool. Looking forward to doing some lines on Thursday for college and NFL. Let's take a quick break. Let's talk everything else when we get back. A little F1 and World Series, baby. Dodgers are up 303 0. I love LA. I am all out of sour patch kids was enjoying them on the break. Quite delicious and knocked out NFL, college. And now let's talk a little World Series, baby. What an exciting weekend, right? A lot has happened since we were on the pod recording Thursday. Our episode come came out Friday and we've had game one, we've had game two, we've had game three. And who would have thought? My daughters are up 3 0. Let's start with game one, though. It was a hell of a game. Dodgers are up. Yankees came back. I think they were up. Like what? What was it like? Three, two, those three two, bottom of the ninth, bases get loaded. I think they walk. Mookie correct to load the bases. And Freddie Freeman on one good wheel. The other one's bad as hell. He's been injured for a good portion of this of this postseason. On the second pitch, bam. The sound and it's out in right field. Just like Gibson 30 years prior or 40 years, almost 40 years prior. It was pretty epic. First grand slam in World Series history to win the game. Lots of emotions, man. I was chatting with you guys once. Went out to go get some drinks after. I have to celebrate. I couldn't even Walk inside aces. Because there's so many Yankees fans. I knew I would get into a fight, you know, if someone talked the wrong. But afterwards, I went to go talk. Someone bought me some shots. It was good times, you know, it's all good fun. We're all talking about the managerial decisions, why they brought out whatever. Or maybe that was game two. Game two the next day, actually. It's all starting to blur together. It was. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Well, I'll. I'll. I'll start with you. You said bottom of the ninth. It was actually bottom of the tenth. It was in extra. [00:51:05] Speaker A: Things are going. [00:51:06] Speaker B: Going back to Game 1. So Yankees took that lead in the top. And then. Yeah, like when this boils down, the Freeman home run, I think is the moment, and it's really when the Series was over. I think that took everything out of the Yankees at that moment in time. Game one and game two was where, you know, we said it in the pod before the Series started. They. The Yankees had the pitching advantage from the starting pitchers. They needed to win game one or game two. It looked like game one was going to be that game. And that grand slam, I think, I think ended the Series. So that was. That was a moment right there. That's. That's a world. That's a moment that just is going to live forever with the Dodgers and Freddie Freeman, you know, from a World Series that was supposed to be, you know, the two biggest markets, the two biggest teams, highest payroll, all the stars in it, and one of the stars, maybe not even the start, I don't even think. We talked about going into the Series. We talked about Ohtani, we talked about Mookie, we talked about Judge and Soto. You know, Freeman was the, you know, the third guy in that lineup. And at that point, the Series to me, really was over because it just deflated the Yankees. [00:52:18] Speaker C: Yeah, that loss right there for the Yankees, they had the game they needed to get that. Garrett Cole had a brilliant game going. You know, Boone being questioned for taking them out when he did, I think he was only at like 85, 86 pitches. [00:52:30] Speaker A: I thought Gar Cole was doing. It was actually a really good pitching duel. Gar Cole was phenomenal, and so is Flaherty. [00:52:36] Speaker C: Yeah, Flaherty was good, too. So, I mean. Yeah, I mean, Freeman, I think I heard with the home run today, he's home run in five straight World Series games dating back to the great Atlanta Braves World Series victory over the Astros. Something the Dodgers could never do. But we'll leave that out of there. But yeah, 3, 0, right now, Dodgers looking good. I got the Yankees winning Tuesday, Wednesday getting it back to la. But the celebration will be Friday night. Dodgers will close the series. Out game six Friday night in la. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Game six? [00:53:07] Speaker C: Yeah, it's getting into game six. [00:53:11] Speaker A: I picked game six, but I don't know, I'm guessing maybe game five is when they close this thing out. [00:53:16] Speaker C: I think with a bullpen game tomorrow, the Yankees bats will wake up and then Cole will whip the late. Will whip the Dodgers there in game five and send it back to LA where the Dodgers finish him off. And similar to what the Mets, what they did with the Mets. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Yeah, game two was a lot of fun as well. Man, I am trying to. I'm just drawing a blank right now. Yamamoto, I think he went what, six and a third, did pretty well. And then Yankees, who they have pitching. Rodon, they got it open. Yeah, yeah, they got him good early on. Chasco Hernandez finally came through in the clutch. Freeman again, it's just. That was a big win. I was stressing. Bases loaded. What was it in the 9th again where the Yankees had a chance to, you know, I mean, the Yankees have. [00:54:11] Speaker C: Done all their damage really in the ninth inning here in the late innings. Yeah, tonight. [00:54:15] Speaker A: Yeah. And then. Yeah, tonight. Man 4 Zero looking at a, at a shutout. And then Verdugo comes in, has that two run blast. Then luckily, I mean, yeah, walks, walks. [00:54:32] Speaker C: Errors and clutch hitting by the judges. If you look at the stat line, they both have basically the same amount of hits. And you know, it's just been, it's just been, you know, Dodgers pitching has gotten the big outs. Yankees haven't too many walks by the Yankees and clutch hitting by the Dodgers has really been the difference, you know. Bases loaded for the Yankees. Vesia comes in, first pitch, deep fly to center field. Game over, first pitch to the night before in the 10th, it's in the bleachers. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Yeah, big hitting. They both left a lot of guys on base. Runners in scoring position. They've been pretty shitty. Judge still MIA in this World Series. He's just pressing too hard. He had a couple nice hits. Just, you know, he's reaching a little too much, not enough. On one of the hits that was in game three today, went deep, deep left, I think. I don't know. But you predict game six. Jason, have you been watching the World Series or just kind of casually perusing? [00:55:30] Speaker B: Just, just casually. I will not say not as much as you. I did watch all of game one and then to me, like I said, that's where I Felt. I felt it was. It was over at that one. It was a great way to start the series. Caught a little bit of game two. And then like tonight really just. It was 4. 0. And then I was able to watch just the ending there. But I. As what. As a person who's watched a lot of Michael Kopec and a lot of Carlos Rodin on a irrelevant White Sox team, that Kopek in the ninth inning is the one that I would. I've always would worry for the Dodgers because I've seen that inning I don't know how many times in the White Sox because Kopek throws the ball, you know, 100 miles an hour and it will deal. But when he loses control, it is not close. And he'll just throw something in there that you could take deep. So it's not going to come into play for the Dodgers for the Series, it looks like at this point. But would have always been my worry him in the bullpen. But he's been awesome for the Dodgers since he got there, so I'll just chalk that one up. To just be playing for the White Sox doesn't give you your best stuff. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Oh, man, I love KO Peck in this playoffs, man. He's been. He's been solid. I think his ERA is like 1.13, but with the White Sox it was like 4.6. You can like double check that. I'm not really sure it's around that area. [00:56:47] Speaker B: You're probably. You're probably around right? He. He is a. He's a really good pitcher. I always have the highest hopes for him as a starter, but when he had his shot in the bullpen, I just think he has just unbelievable stuff where you can come in for an inning and just throw gas and you just become an unbelievable bullpen guy. I think he still wants to be a starter and what he prepared for at the beginning of the. Yeah, that was. That was what he prepared going into the season. But I think he's just a great bullpen guy because he can come in and just. He can be shut down. I thought he was gonna be the White Sox closer earlier in the year, but they never really nailed it down. But he. But he has these innings with control that you saw in this game that, you know, could turn into losses, but really was no consequences here. Having a 4.0lead. [00:57:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, like Jason said to me, he's a reliever. I mean, he's got the 100 mile per hour four seamer, 89, 90 mile power cutter. And then he Froze a hard slider, but yeah, control around the strike zone's been an issue. And then, you know, he gets behind in the couch and then he just, you know, four seamer down the middle. Verdugo took him yard. [00:57:45] Speaker A: So, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to plan this out. So game four is tomorrow. Game five would be Wednesday. That's what I'm planning to do, the NBA pod. But I don't know if I can do it if. If it's a close game on that day. [00:58:00] Speaker C: Well, the Dodgers don't close it out tomorrow. I don't see them beating Garrett Cole in game five. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll say it, huh? [00:58:09] Speaker C: I see the Yankees. I'll put this right here. The Yankees have scored. The Yankees are going to score some runs tomorrow. They're. They're going to beat up on the Dodgers bullpen. They're going to get some confidence going. They're going to feel good. Cole's going to keep that momentum going. Game six will be in la. We'll have a game six. We'll be talking about a Thursday night on the pod. [00:58:32] Speaker A: All right. I'm excited. Oh, no, I'm nervous. I was stressed out. I'm stressed out. All these games, man, it's not fun watching your team play for championships. It kind of is. It kind of is. I'm not gonna lie. [00:58:46] Speaker B: But I wouldn't know. [00:58:47] Speaker A: It's stressful. It's stressful, man. You guys had some championships, you know, stupid Blackhawks, White Sox. That one. [00:58:55] Speaker B: That was. That was 10 years ago. The White Sox was 20 years ago. [00:58:58] Speaker C: White Sox, man. Has it been 20 years already? Yeah, you could look at the. [00:59:02] Speaker B: You can look at the plaque behind me. This is 2005 World Series champions. [00:59:07] Speaker A: You know what? It's been a while. [00:59:11] Speaker B: It's been a while. [00:59:11] Speaker C: And the Bulls haven't won since 98, man. [00:59:14] Speaker A: Well, they've had chances, man. They've had really good teams. [00:59:17] Speaker C: Yeah. De Rose, man, ACL, ACL, man, there. [00:59:21] Speaker B: Was a good one to two year run when. But then LeBron in the east, you know, Eastern Conference finals should have been the time. [00:59:28] Speaker C: Hey, do you see that Dwyane Wade statue they brought out, man? Is that the most disgusting thing you've seen? [00:59:34] Speaker A: Not good. What is that? She's now like, how come we can't do statues, right? Even Kobe statues. I'm not a big fan of them. Like, dude, who are. [00:59:41] Speaker C: These guys are supposedly like statue sculpture artists. They're terrible, man. I mean, I should get a profession because I could do that. [00:59:48] Speaker A: We've seen There was the one. [00:59:53] Speaker B: There was a Cristiano Ronaldo one that I think was out there a couple years ago where, like, his eyes were like. Yeah, yeah. [01:00:02] Speaker A: I guess you can't say retarded anymore, but they look good. [01:00:07] Speaker B: It didn't look. It didn't look. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I think they had. I. I. At least I didn't see the video, but I think they had those. The artists, the sculptors talking about it, and I was just like, man, you can't. You can't defend this. [01:00:20] Speaker A: So someone has a theory. It was on Reddit or something that it looks like Antoine Walker. The face. [01:00:27] Speaker C: You wonder who it looks like, man. It looks like this. I looked him up, man. I'll send you guys a photo later. [01:00:35] Speaker A: It's not a good statue, man, but. [01:00:38] Speaker C: It looks like there should be some. [01:00:40] Speaker A: Editing involved when they're doing statue work. Like, come on. [01:00:43] Speaker B: There's. There's. There's endless great ones on X. On what? On what this look like. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Really? [01:00:48] Speaker C: Look up Christopher Judge, dude. Look up Christopher Judge and just look up images and tell me that's not him from, like, Stargate SG1 or something. You watched that show back in the day, man. Look him up. [01:01:01] Speaker A: I didn't watch that. [01:01:03] Speaker C: You used to watch out my house, bro. [01:01:04] Speaker A: You watched it. I just. I was. I was your guest. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. It was you and my friend Keith. Those. My two white friends. I love that show. I guess I'll just jerk off in the corner. Oh, it does look like him. Dude. [01:01:25] Speaker C: I'm telling you, bro. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Let's look up. Hold on. Let's look. Dude, everyone's been clowning on. Not everyone. [01:01:35] Speaker C: No, I mean, yeah, everyone. Everyone's just kind of, you know, it's like that elephant in the room that everyone's just like a. You see that over there? Like, nah. [01:01:44] Speaker A: Dwayne Wade taking the high road, man. It's. It's. [01:01:48] Speaker B: He doesn't care. He owns part of the. The Jazz now. He doesn't care about the heat. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Looks like Emmett Smith. Looks like anybody else. [01:01:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty. [01:01:57] Speaker A: That's a chiseled. That's a chiseled jaw. That's. That's not Dwight Wade, man. [01:02:02] Speaker C: I mean, you could even say it looks like more like Shaq than Dwyane Wade right now, honestly. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Not a good unveiling. Yeah. [01:02:13] Speaker C: For anybody that's having a statue sculpted of them, I want to see the work before it gets, you know, unveiled in public. Like, let me go over there. Let me Critique it. And let me say this is what I want. [01:02:25] Speaker B: I want to like I don't. I would request at this point I think technology is getting good enough. I don't want a person doing it. I want, I want an. I want an AI with a laser printer, you know or the 3D laser printers able just to make it for me. Whatever makes Tom Cruise's masks in the Mission Impossible. That's what I want making my statue. [01:02:52] Speaker A: I could have said some jokes here but I'm not sure if it's appropriate. [01:02:55] Speaker B: Probably not. You had to think about that. [01:02:57] Speaker A: If I thought about it. If I'm second guessing. Yeah, probably not. The sources after dark Anyways, back to my rehab story. I was rehabbing Saturday from that epic World Series game on win man. I'm pretty sure I just had two gin and tonics, a bourbon and a mezcal shot but I can't be sure. Anyways, F1 man. It was perfect. Watching Hungover it was great. It was fast, exciting. I told Jason or I told you Jason that I caught like the first 20 laps or so that I came back for like the last 15. Break it down for us because I have a lot of questions like first of all the penalties made no sense when they just dock 5, 10 seconds here and there. Norris was phenomenal. It seemed like he had like the fastest lap and all of a sudden it got overtaken by somebody else at the end. I, I just found out that you get extra points for that. Saints Signs. [01:04:02] Speaker B: Signs. Carlos Signs. [01:04:04] Speaker A: Carl Signs, he's Spanish so I'm all up for it. I, I will root for my fellow Spanish people. So really happy for that one. Without even knowing who who the he is. Saw Lewis Hamilton move up of the ranks up to fourth. He was killing it. Finally I think there was like three laps to go and he, and he just booked it on the straightaway and overtook his teammate Russell. I think they're on the same team. [01:04:29] Speaker B: Yep. [01:04:30] Speaker A: And then what else? Piastri. Something happened with Piastri but I can't remember. Something controversial? [01:04:38] Speaker B: Nothing too controversial. Piastri he started, he had a bad qualifying. He qualified toward the bottom five of the grid. So that was really back on Saturday what happened. But I think going back to Carlos Signs winning huge for him. I think we talked about this realm but we haven't just educating both you guys and the listeners potentially to F1. Carlos signs lost his seat at Ferrari. This is his last five last couple races with Ferrari. So Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton. Yeah. So Lewis Hamilton is leaving Mercedes here at the next four who he's won six world championships with and seven Constructors Championship Mercedes. And so basically what I consider the greatest Formula one driver of all time, Lewis Hamilton, is going to the most iconic team in Formula one history with his Ferrari. So Carlos Signs is a great driver who's losing a seat at one of the top Formula one team. So he's going to Williams Racing, which is, it's a mid tier team, Williams, they're, you know, bottom three in the constructors standings right now. They're a legacy team. They've been around, you know, for a while. Some they've been, I mean just they've been around for a long time. They were owned by, you know, Frank Williams. He was, you know, and he just, you know, they've had, they were successful in the 80s, they've won of their own. But that's when F1 was a very different back then when Williams was successful. They are, you know, they are corporate juggernauts now where you have, you know, a manufacturer team, a lot of money, a lot of resources. Williams has always been an independent team. So independent ownership, they rely on, you know, manufacturers for their engines and things like that. So it's just for, for Carlos Signs it's taking a step back because you're one of the top four teams in for Formula one with Ferrari now you're going back. So he's really proven it because now he has won two straight races coming off, I'm sorry, not too straight race, but he's finished in the top two, the last two because LeClaire won at the U.S. gP in Austin. Signs finished second. Now Signs wins this race. It's his second win of the year so far. So I was telling you guys, off the pod, most competitive formula one year since I think 1981, you have six drivers who have won multiple races. So this is generally a sport where it is, it is very front runners and you have a one or two, three, mate drivers that win races. You have four really competitive teams this year with Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes and have had all drivers win multiple races. So it's proving something down the stretch where, you know, I think I talked to, we were teaching this to Aaron a little bit or maybe Rome, you know, you're competing for not only the drivers Championship but the Constructors Championship for the teams. And that's where the money's at. So the teams care about the constructors more than the drivers championship because at the end, end of the year, the prize money, you know, teams one through 10, you know, gets based on that Constructors Championship. So that's where the actual money into research and development and all the team resources plays, you know, dividends for a lot of these teams. [01:07:43] Speaker C: So what is the prize money? How much is the prize money at the end? [01:07:48] Speaker B: It is a, that's a great question, Aaron. I do not have the answer. So. So it's, it's an absurd amount probably for what it can be the difference. But. But yeah, it's, it's what the teams are really after for because that's the procedure looking for. So a three way race with Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren Ferrari now with, you know, top two in Austin, two of the top three in Mexico have jumped past Red Bull. They're second in the constructors behind McLaren and then they're only like 29 points behind McLaren to take the lead. So you know, Max Verstappen still in the lead and the Drivers Championship potentially could win the world title and his team finishes third in the constructors. [01:08:30] Speaker A: I know with the Lando Norris finishing second, there was like a lot of talks about him tightening the gap between him and Verstappen for the championship. So you want to talk a little more about that to kind of educate us a little bit. [01:08:44] Speaker B: Yeah. So I think going to for where Max was in that race. So Rome was, Rome was texting me as far as the penalties and stuff. So penalties have been a very controversial thing because of the US gp. Pretty controversial spot between Norris and Verstappen where it looked like Verstappen ran Norris off the road and then Norris actually got a penalty for passing outside the racing, basically the racing lines. So you could only pass within the racing lines. But Versacen basically forced him off the road and Norris didn't give the position back. And so at the US GP they docked him five seconds and so the pass went for nothing and Verstappen got the positioning ahead of Norris increased his lead in the Drivers Championship after the, after the Austin at the US Grand Prix in Austin. And so tons of things of like Norris getting the penalty but Verstappen not getting a penalty for running a driver off the road, which is a penalty too. So fast forward to this last week in Mexico. Twice Verstappen ran Norris off the road within like a two laps. And the stewards, which is our kind of the F1 officials, gave Verstappen two 10 second penalties which is 20 in 20 seconds. In Formula 1 that is basically like, it's like a, you know, a third of the lap. Basically you're Penalizing someone where they have to go into the pits. No one can touch the car for 20 seconds and then that's the penalty. Yeah. So you'll go into the pits and no one touches the car away. [01:10:16] Speaker A: They make you go out. [01:10:18] Speaker B: Two things. [01:10:19] Speaker C: It's like a timeout, man. [01:10:20] Speaker B: It is now. Now, if it's. [01:10:22] Speaker A: I missed that. [01:10:23] Speaker B: If it's later in the race. Yes. They'll tack it onto your time like your race time. It's 20 seconds more and then whatever the difference. But during the race, you take it in your pits and you can go from there. So that's what they did. So Verstappen was in like second or third place, but, you know, battling with signs and Norris and. And LeClaire in that top kind of four spot. The 20 seconds put back, that put them all the way back. I think the 10th at the time, but really put him behind the Mercedes of Russell and Hamilton that put him so far down he was never going to catch up and kind of reclaim that point. So Norris was able to get by the other Ferrari, Charlotte Claire, at a certain point got into second. You mentioned the fastest lap Ferrari with leclaire at third. Once he dropped back and gave that position, they had enough time to pit, which they did put brand new tires on Charles LeClaire for him to 1. One hard lap around the course and he got the fastest lap on the last lap of the race to take that. So a little bit of sportsmanship there because it gave Ferrari the extra point. LeClaire wasn't going to lose any positioning, but was able to gain the fastest lap. When it comes to Formula one, that first lap on the new tires has the most amount of grip, so the driver is able to push those laps even harder because you're just going to get a ton of grip going into the corners where on a regular like kind of lap, as you're wearing the tires down, that's where the speed degradation comes down because you can't hit the corners as tight. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Interesting. So you can actually. [01:11:51] Speaker C: How many, how many, how often they change the tires, how many laps in. [01:11:55] Speaker B: It depends on the race and the racing surface because they're going to use a couple of different tires this race. There was a caution that I think it was a first five laps. So there was a wreck on lap. On basically the opening stretch, you had Yuki Sonoda, who's a the V carb. This is the Visa Cash app racing bulls. So this is Red Bull's secondary team. They get crashed in the first lap. So that kind of prolonged the first stop. And so they only needed to do one tire change. This race, which is about depending on the team. It was like 27, I think, the 29 laps into the race. So all that to say, ton of drama. I think Rome got into. I might have turned Rome into a fan on Formula one for a nice, easy hour and a half on a. On a. On a Sunday afternoon, you know, in the middle of football. But it's really one of the most competitive Formula one seasons, I think, potentially ever right now, where last year's series was boring. Verstappen1, I think I told you guys, like, all but three races. Red Bull ran away with the constructors. Verstappen away at the championship. You have a lot of. A lot of things at stake every single race. You have Brazil coming up this week. You have a couple week break, then we go to Vegas and then end the last two races in the Middle east at Qatar and Abu Dhabi. And so there's tons of positioning, you know, up in the air. And then, you know, not to fast forward or skip over this year, but next year, I think, is going to be even more insane. It's the last year of the regulations that are under current Formula one rules. So everything's kind of coming back the way there were this last year, because now basically almost all the teams have maximized the technology under the current rule conditions. And so you have just very competitive races because they were getting the most out of every car. [01:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah, they were talking about on the broadcast how they expect next year to be even better. Lando Norris, I can't remember if it was him or somebody else. ESPN or someone else did an article on him how he's like the young star of F1. So he's. He's supposed to be kind of be taken over. And apparently the way he's been driving lately, that is happening. [01:14:08] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's had a breakout year. He was kind of the driver who had never gotten a win, but had always been, you know, getting podiums was just finishing second or third. He got his first win earlier in the year at Miami at the Miami Grand Prix. Has been able to get, you know, a couple WINS since then. McLaren's had the fastest car since basically the start of the European, you know, portion of the schedule, which is around June. McLaren's had the best car. I think the question for Norris, as he is not as ruthless to say, as Verstappen, because Verstappen, when he was a younger driver, he, you know, Verstappen started Formula One at 19 and he kind of started. You got a win on his first race. He's been. He was competitive with. At that time, it was like a four or five time world champion with Lewis Hamilton. And he was super aggressive and not really caring. And I can, you know, just telling you on the way, Verstappen, you know, was pushing Norris off the track here and there. Like, Verstappen doesn't give an inch around this stuff. And you know, that's, that's where the difference is. His aggression, which is, you know, I think questionable within the racing rules a lot of times that the F1 has not clamped down on. But Norris kind of has been, you know, I guess a nice guy kind of arounding all this stuff and then. Yeah, is there going to be a question, is he going to be. Had that kind of killer instinct, you know, get his mamba mentality around to get the. To be able to chase for snapping down here the last couple races though, the crazy thing though is as these two erase each other. Not that he would ever do this, but, you know, when you get, when he gets around Max, Max has no incentive to like let him buy because so if they wreck each other, Verstappen still wins the championship. So you, you have to be real careful he goes around. And Rome, you were questioning me around like Sergio Perez, the other Red Bull driver, got. He got some damage on his side pod. It ruined his race. You know, you can't get any damage on these cars. So I think that's where Norris is doing a fine line. It makes qualifying that much more important because you want to be in those top positionings. One or two to start the race. And then Norris's biggest thing besides the aggression this year is he's had terrible starts to the race off the, off the jump. He's at one point in the season he was averaging like losing four positions on the start. Just slow reaction time with the car. [01:16:36] Speaker A: I guess. Like, one thing I have to like as I get more used to F1, I did watch it in years past. I told you my friend Alex, the Italian guy, they'd always talk about it. So I kind of caught a few F1s, but just seem like whoever won pole positioning won the race. And I think it was like maybe like the Paris Grand Prix where there wasn't like a lot of space and these cars like so much longer than what they used to be. So there wasn't like a lot. [01:16:59] Speaker B: That's Monaco. [01:17:01] Speaker A: Okay. Monaco. [01:17:02] Speaker B: Okay, That's Monaco. Monaco. Monaco is probably the boringest Grand Prix. But like, it's got the prestige that it's. Oh, it's in Monaco, you know, it's, it's, it's historic. It's a beautiful historic. It's got the boats to go. No, it's. It's on these tiny little streets. And yes, the cars have gotten, you know, huge compared to the original ones that race there. And yeah, that one there basically is no place to pass. It's all the qualifying. But you get into some of these, you know, the Mexican circuit, really nice. Yeah. Mexico's got a great circuit. Really like that one. You're getting to Brazil. This week is an awesome circuit. Vegas is a street track. It's. It isn't a. It isn't a great circuit yet. But what Vegas is awesome, really, is the overtaking capabilities because they go down the strip and then those guys are going, you know, well over 200. And then, you know, they get into the straights and the drs zones where they can make passing and that's what becomes more enticing there where you don't have to finish the poll. [01:18:02] Speaker A: And I think they just released the initial plans for the Dallas one, right. For next year. [01:18:07] Speaker B: Dallas is Indy car. [01:18:09] Speaker A: Indy car? Oh, me, Indy car? [01:18:14] Speaker B: No, no. We'll get into Indy car season at a certain point. So. Because all my plans are I will be at the Indianapolis 500 this year. So you know, that. That'll be something to look forward to. [01:18:24] Speaker A: All right. All right. That does it for me, guys. [01:18:28] Speaker B: Well, I entertained you, Rome, but probably put the entire listening audience to sleep, me just going on Formula one, you know, the Bears were so bad this weekend. This is the only thing that made me happy was the Formula one race because it was going on at the same time. [01:18:41] Speaker A: So I thought you're. I was gonna ask you about the Bears meter, but you already made it really apparent how you're not happy with Ibrahim. I'm just gonna leave it alone. Dude, you already. It was already a 10 minute rant. [01:18:52] Speaker B: Strange. I can go another 10. But we'll, we'll save listeners ears. I've talked enough on this pod. [01:18:58] Speaker C: Save that. Save that for Thursday. Are you going to the game this weekend in Arizona? [01:19:03] Speaker B: I will be in Arizona this weekend, yes. [01:19:07] Speaker A: What Bears? [01:19:07] Speaker B: Arizona Bears? Cardinals. This Sunday? [01:19:10] Speaker A: Yep. You're. Oh, while you're going. [01:19:12] Speaker B: Yep. [01:19:14] Speaker C: It's coming back with the bins too, man. Maybe w. As well. We'll see. [01:19:19] Speaker B: See. [01:19:23] Speaker A: All right. Yeah, today was good. We'll catch somebody for the lines. We'll catch everybody for some lines. For the lines or for some lines Everything sounds so sus. [01:19:34] Speaker B: Thursday lines, Thursday lines. [01:19:38] Speaker A: Peace.