Episode Transcript
[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome back to source from the sofa. We got the full team here.
Jason Aaron. Minutes after game seven of the NBA Finals, OKC captures their first championship as the OKC Thunder.
Lots of buildup going to this game and, man, it just literally just almost like fell apart within minutes of the game.
Halliburton was having a hell of a start. Three for four from three point land, already nine points with just like what, like six, eight minutes of playing time.
Catches the inbound pass, just drives up, pretty standard play. Falls down. And I'm thinking, like, what the hell? I didn't really think much of it. I see him in pain.
I was watching the game in the clubhouse here at my new place here in Oakland, and there's a bunch of other guys there as well.
But then you. You text me about the Achilles tear and then I. And then I go on X and they're. Everyone's worried that it's an Achilles tear. NBA circles everywhere. They're kind of sending prayers already. And I just kept on thinking when he had his hurt calf, Aaron, you were mentioning how this might be a precursor to an Achilles tear.
And then it came out that there was like some warning, some. Some precautionary measures being taken that he does not do that in game six because he was running around Seabiscuit me and you were talking about it on the last pod at. And then.
Unbelievable, man. It's like the crazy script.
We don't know it yet, it's not official, but he goes down, doesn't come back, watches the rest of the game. Only the 9th game 7 finals game in. In the last 40 years, so pretty rare stuff.
What were you guys thinking when that happened? Let's just start there.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Well, I text you right away, room as soon as it happened. You guys, that basically like, damn. You could see like when that calf, Achilles, you can see when they blow it up, it just like pops, right? And as soon as I saw it and the way he was down and he was like, no, no, no. I was like, ah, damn, He's. He's done. It's. It's an Achilles tear. It's. That's what it is. Same thing that we saw happen.
Romy mentioned the calf strains leading to Achilles injuries. We mentioned Kevin Durant and we've seen Damon Lillard Tatum in these playoffs. And then I saw on X players had reached out to those guys prior or after the injury. Hey, did you have some kind of calf strain or calf soreness or some kind of issue? They all admitted yes.
So that was, you know, why I said. I said, hey, look, you got to be careful.
Halliburton, even himself, was kind of like, you know, that's why Game six, he was questionable. Right? I mean, they were kind of like, hey, this. This is on the table. Like, if you go out, it's a risk, it's a possibility playing at a high level. You know, you just, you know, pump fake. You go to drive off that leg, and then, boom. The Achilles just, you know, you saw it. It gave out on him.
It's sad, man, because we were talking before we went on the air.
Game seven, this series has, you know, been really good. It's been great.
We talked about coming into the finals. Not only have these been the two best teams, but they were relatively healthy. No major injuries, you know, bruises and stuff. That comes with the game, the territory, but they're going in full strength, and we were hoping to get a finals classic, and we did. For the most part, we did. You know, like I said, games. Game 7 leaves a sour taste because we don't know what would happen. Halliburton was balling 9.7 minutes.
We'll get more into the game, but his absence was definitely felt once he went out, especially in that second half.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Jason, what were you thinking?
[00:03:56] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, the.
I guess Tyrese had been the, I don't know, personality a little bit of the series. You know, sga, as great as he has has been, I mean, he's kind of that quiet, quiet superstar, quiet assassin that goes through. And. And Tyrese has kind of been the personality of the series. And you get to this big moment in game seven, you want all the players, you know, to be on the court at their healthiest, and then just, you know, just case a wind down the sails. I don't think it affected the Pacers right away because the bench came in and did their thing, and the game stayed tight there. So it was like, hey, they stepped up.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: They were up at the house still.
[00:04:32] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, they were. So I think it's just super disappointing because you want to see the. You want to see the best players out there and have big players make big plays in the biggest moment. And we don't get game Sevens very often. I know. You know, last week, Romeo, you're talking about was this. Since the LeBron Steph Curry game. Yeah, get that. And that was kind of like that was a crowning moment for LeBron, you know, bringing that title to.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: To.
[00:05:01] Speaker C: To Cleveland, and then, you know, these other kind of type game Sevens where it's. It's, you Want these superstars kind of battling back and forth and we just kind of didn't get that. And I think that was the biggest thing right away. And you felt bad for, for Halbert at that moment because you're like, man, he. Everything that he had done to really, you know, build. He went through every obstacle in the Eastern Conference, did it at the Garden in the biggest stage, probably made his name in that Eastern Conference finals and get to this moment where he, he could have shocked the world and it could have been one of the bigger upsets in the NBA Finals that we've had and just didn't get that opportunity. I mean that, that's the thing that really sucked.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
Who knows how much different this game could have been with him in there.
When you break it down quarter by quarter, pretty even except for the third, that's when OKC finally went on their run. Other than that though, Indiana Pacers stuck in there. And at one point the third quarter, it was just TJ McConnell scoring all the baskets for like a nine minute period. I think no one else produced a thing. It was pretty amazing.
Siakam didn't have a great game.
Turner have a great game. Nambar didn't have a great game. Like a lot of guys didn't have a good game on the Pacers. So. And yet they were still like you look at it and they were still within striking distance.
So who knows?
[00:06:22] Speaker C: Aaron, I don't know if this stuff to you just. And this is the way Carlisle plays it and I just wasn't picking it up in pre state. It feels like Siakam should have been in the game a lot more than he was. I felt when the bench was out there, this was the moment for, you know, as soon as Tyrese goes down, this is the time for like the. Siakam's kind of got to take over. And I felt like he was getting taken out quite a bit in this game where it's like we, you know, it was a time for him to kind of step up. And I think either Carlisle was going with the same rotation but to keep the depth. But I, I felt, I don't know what you thought about that. He should have been in the game a little more.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: I mean he played 36 minutes, which I think based off the other games was a lot. I think he was averaging 31 to 33.
So I think his minutes were there. I think they kind of stuck with the same rotation. Why it's getting them out of the game.
I'll admit, I think especially in that third quarter, I would have had him in when they pushed it to what, nine, 10 points? I think that's probably when you're talking about. And then, you know, obviously OKC got it up to, you know, 15, 16 and just kind of kept running away from it from there.
But yeah, I mean, I think his plan was, you know, hey, let's see if we can keep it between nine, eight to 12 points and then play Siakam the whole fourth quarter. Because, I mean, look, it's. Yakam plays hard. He plays a lot of energy.
He kind of plays them in spurts, six minutes, gives them four minute rest and he plays six, eight minutes. So he doesn't really play full quarters. 12 minutes.
I think they were trying to hope to keep it close there.
They just. The game kind of got away from him in that third quarter.
[00:07:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. I think he had the most minutes in the Pacers. That's kind of interesting that you think he didn't play enough. I guess I didn't catch that too much, but honestly, I guess maybe it.
[00:08:04] Speaker C: Wasn'T enough was the wrong phrasing. But I think when Aaron, when I was starting with Aaron is like there was these moments when the bench was on there and I think, you know, the difference in a couple minutes, a couple. There's where he could have been on, you know, just to stop some of these runs.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:17] Speaker C: Because going on.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah, they had like T.J. mcConnell, Shepard, what Toppin. They didn't have like scores. And I think was for Jason's alluding to like, yeah, you probably need to get Siakam just because he's an offensive threat.
So that's where he was, especially when they were already down like 10 or 12. Like you talked about Rome, like TJ scoring 12 straight points. He was like the only guy doing anything. But Siakam wasn't even on the court at that time. So like, that was a critical point in the game. Like I said, I think Carlisle was like, okay, McConnell's on a roll.
Maybe we can get it back down to like 10, 11 and then spring Siakam in and make that last push. Kind of similar what they did in game one and even in game three, where they're able to like out, out basically pace the thunder, but, you know, we'll get into it. But turnovers, ultimately, not having Halliburton. Turnovers ultimately were the big killer here. Points off turnovers. I mean, you look at the stats, Pacers were good or better than everything except for turnovers and points off turnovers and that was a difference.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah. So that was like, the biggest criticism of Carlisle, not playing enough minutes for his two stars, Halliburton and Siakam. That was like, in Game one and Game two, they responded. But when you compare it to the top two guys on the Thunder, everyone played at least 40 minutes. So I guess, you know, yeah, he could have played him a little more, especially if. If Halburn's done right. Even Matheran playing 33, that's a lot of minutes for him. That's pretty crazy. I.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Well, he's the only guy off the bench outside of T.J. mcConnell scoring.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: And to Jason's point, if you go back and look at the film from game four, that I think Siakam played 35 minutes, he wore down. He wore down in the fourth quarter. In game four, they had other mistakes that happened, but that. I think that's what Carlisle was like, hey, this is kind of his pace, his rotation.
I don't want to get away from it just in case we need him. And Puncher's chance to make that push. Unfortunately for them, they just. They ran out of steam.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: Yeah. So Halliburton goes down minutes into the game, it's still pretty close. Pacers are up by a point.
Had a big clutch three going to the half.
And then you're thinking, like, well, who knows, man? There might be enough magic here. But they were sticking around. OKC finally hits that run. They were making all the stops. They were poking their hands and deflecting passes, going on fast breaks, and I think they were up by 20.
Am I mistaken?
I know it's just like, minutes ago, but I could have sworn they were up by close to 20 before the Pacers responded back with, like, another run to kind of cut it back down to, like, within 10 points or so. And that's kind of like where it kind of flirted for the rest of the game. But OKC showed out, man. We kind of figured it might be like a close game or like an upset, and ended up being, like, a pretty dominant win from the third quarter on for okc. They kind of did everything they had to do to kind of seal this game.
[00:11:19] Speaker C: 22 points. Rome at the 741 mark. They're up 90 to 68.
[00:11:23] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it. They didn't four. It took them basically four and a half minutes before Indiana even scored in that fourth quarter.
It was 80, 81, 68 at the end of the third quarter, dude, it.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: Felt like I went to the fridge to pull up another beer. Turn back around.
And they added 10 points to was so quick, it didn't even feel like it just happened in a flash.
What do you guys think about, I guess Carlisle? He was pretty animated throughout the whole game on the sidelines. Pretty upset about a lot of calls. Looked like he was about to get the thrown out.
What do you think that was about?
[00:11:57] Speaker C: I'll tell you one thing, Rome and I was going to. What's the rule for how far the coach could run onto the court?
[00:12:03] Speaker A: He was running onto the court like.
[00:12:06] Speaker C: The ball was still in play. And this man is like halfway out of the court trying to argue with the red. They're like, in play. I'm like, that was like, do we just not obey the lines in basketball? Like, I'm pretty sure that's like a 15 yard penalty if this is the NFL.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: I thought he was gonna get kicked out for real. Like he was cussing them out and, and yelling. There was like a few hard fouls. Camera who was driving and yeah, to, to fairness.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: I mean, that third quarter was poorly officiated. I mean, there was a lot of missed calls against the Pacers. I think Carlisle, he had a right to be mad. I mean, the end that quarter, Siakam got, I mean, basically got mugged and fouled going up for a shot by Caruso.
I mean, he came out. And even the credit to what Jason said, he came all the way across half court one time almost to the three point line of the Thunder to yell at the ref. I think the referees kind of like, you know, they don't want to be the ones that like, you know, hey, man, they're trying to make a comeback. You gave a coach a technical, they'll go back, they'll look at it and see that they missed some calls and make some calls both ways. But I mean, there was a time there where they missed, you know, couple calls and the game got away from him. You know, Carlisle was looking to get a technical similar to what you saw in Game 5 when he got a technical early in that game.
So, I mean, frustration builds up. The referees kind of know. I'm sure they go back. I mean, the traveling you talk about Jalen, why isn't that not reviewed at the end of the quarter?
[00:13:28] Speaker A: A timeout sells close.
[00:13:30] Speaker B: It's close, but still it is traveling and it's on video evidence.
[00:13:35] Speaker C: I. It was funny you watching that, because I was like, I think I brought up early in the season, do we call traveling anymore? And then we get literally like dissertations about traveling during this Game seven game. Like I'm like, all right. I'm not the only one that sees it. You know, there are two steps and you get like what, the reset or the what? I don't know what.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Richard, Jeff, the Williams thing was like the most gathers.
[00:13:54] Speaker C: Now I get to gather. So it's. It's two steps in a gather.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: Yeah, like whatever that. And then. Yeah, that should have been travel on Macarena. And then Chad Holmgren catches a lot pass from the three point line, doesn't even take a dribble and slam dunks. It's like five steps. It's like, dude, like is it going to call travel tonight or not? There was not one travel, I think calling this whole game, by the way.
[00:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you know the J will one. I'm like, I'm fine with that because that's a hard shot to make. Even if his foot barely touched like you're still like in motion. You'll have enough to respond. The other ones, I mean the problem.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: The problem of being good of it Rome. I'd be good if it was like 20 point game, but I think it was. Was only like a six or eight point game at that time. That's right when OKC was going on the run.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: So you take those two points off, all of a sudden it's like.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: And that really hyped up the arena because he got stuffed, man. He pulled up, got stuffed, double clutched it back, barely got off again. And oh my God.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: I think that's why they went back and looked at it. They're like, wait, like I never, I never, I never see that play. Like you said double clutch, make it. And then they're like, yeah, that's. Let's look at this. Toes on the ground. You know, it would have been a shot clock violation. It would have been a 24 second. So it should have been reviewed back and been a travel and the points taken off. Just like you can review a three point or two point shot during a commercial. This is my personal take on it. I think Carlisle is probably pissed off among other things with that as well.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Besides the epic shot or two guys non travel call. I thought OKC played a solid third quarter. Holmgren seemed like he made some really critical shots at the right time. He hasn't really been really efficient on a three point land. And today he had some big shots, even had like some nice dunks. Harlstein as well, his defense really came through SGA 29 points. I thought if I was a betting man, I was Going to say like SGA plus, you know, 30 plus J will 20 plus, you know, Halliburton 20 plus points.
But SGA had a hell of a game. Career high 12 assists, five rebounds. Well rounded it.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: It's funny, Rome, that you'll say hell of a game for SGA and everybody will praise them. But his numbers really sucked. 8 for 27.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: Oh, it wasn't efficient.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: Had this been your boy Kobe, rest in peace, everybody would have been giving him dog shit. Oh, he took 27 shots for sure. Eight.
But yet SGA, we're going to basically praise him as the MVP. And look at. He was great in this series and great for the playoffs and he deserves it. But it was not a great game by him. I mean, if you. The stat lines, basically we talked about. It's simple. If Indiana does not turn the ball over, they win this game, they win the series. They had too many turnovers throughout in multiple games.
And the Thunder to their credit, capitalized this game like they were unable to do anything.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: It's not like the Pacers gave the ball away, man. The OKC Thunder's D was.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean their defense was great. I mean, they got to wave a few fouls, which, you know, Jason alluded to Carlisle coming out and storming, trying to, you know, let his voice be heard. But yeah, their. Their defense has done that all year. That's what they're known for.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess with this victory, man, like, this is like the second youngest team in Finals history.
Pretty young team to win a chip. You got SGA. I think he's the second youngest to win a Finals MVP, league MVP, a scoring title at 26. I think only Kareem was the only one to do it younger. And everyone else has been a lot.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: Who was the last guy to do it 25 years ago? Because Adam Silver said this is the first guy to do it. So who. Who did it 25 years ago in 2000? Was that Shaq?
[00:17:44] Speaker A: Kobe did it, but he was already 30.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Kobe never one was MVP in 2000. So was it Shaq scoring title MVP and NBA Finals MVP? I think that's who it's got to be. I don't. I can't think of anything else.
[00:17:55] Speaker A: Same year.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: If he was 27 that year, that was pretty great though. They pretty much capped off a historic season by all basketball measures. So. I don't know, man. Alex Caruso is happy for him to win a second chip. He won with the Lakers in. In 2020 wins the second one.
Sucks to see him being tossed around and not being with the Lakers, but happy for him.
His wife, by the way, his fiance, she's making the rounds on social media. The guy's winning all over the place. Dude, he. He's lucky guy. Good guy.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: He's doing all the right moves. So much.
Caruso.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: The Bulls should have had me and Jason in the front office because we would never let a guy like Caruso just walk away. I mean, get rid of them.
You're what, Giddy or whatever his name was. Josh Giddy.
[00:18:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Giddy. Yep.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: That's not a good trade, man.
Now when Giddy is being accused of having a relationship with the 16 year old, you know, that's not good.
[00:18:50] Speaker C: Well, Giddy. Giddy beat the Lakers. So that was, you know, I had to look this up.
Rome, you're a Lakers historian here. So the. I wanted to bring up the Kobe game because you guys even mentioned perfect. So thinking about it. So 2010, NBA Finals, Lakers, Celtics, game seven.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Kobe struggled. Artest was the hero there or Metal.
[00:19:12] Speaker C: Test was the hero. That's what I was.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Metal world pieces there. Kobe went 6 for 24 for 23 points in that game.
But the Lakers won.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: He had a lot of good assists and played really.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: I mean, that was a. That was a classic close game seven. What was the final in that game?
[00:19:31] Speaker C: 83, 79.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that would have been the final close. More points. But we would have had, I think a two or three possession game at Halliburton. Knockout hurt. I think that's where we were trending and that's kind of disappointing.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
Not seeing how they go down, man. It was just.
It was tough, man. You want all the stars.
It was lining up, man. Everyone was healthy. And then on X, as soon as Haliburton went down, I was gonna send you guys a text.
People already scrutinizing the Thunderweight in the championship because of course. Right.
Let's see if I can pull it up here.
So basically some guys like, from like a pretty big hoops account that Jason McIntyre, you know, from the. From the Herd show. He. He reposted it. How did OKC win the finals? They have a picture of a hurt John Morant on the floor with Memphis because of course he was here in that series. They also have a hurt Stephanie holding or what? Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, yeah, they're, you know, Curry was missing a few games and they got Aaron Gordon. I don't know why they picked this picture. His hand is holding a. A fistful of cheek but he had the problem, you know, holding on.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: Hey, that hamstring can go up to the cheek, too.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: So it's a lot that he's only got to. But yeah, you know, Aaron Gordon was out, and basically he also had a bad shoulder. No one's talking about that one. And then. And then the final picture is Halle's screaming, pounding the floor, which is like, I gotta say, that's gotta. That's gonna end up being a meme somehow.
Like that, that face.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: I'll say this.
It will be a great Gatorade commercial, like in a few years if Halliburton or whatever could come back and win a title. Like where you show them, like, you know, Gatorade coming back down, Nike, whatever kind of commercial where guys basically tapping out and then bounces back from Achilles injury to win a title. So that's, you know, something that could be in the future there.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I think with Halle going down also, I think this is the season with the most achilles injuries at 15. The highest previously was about a decade ago with five.
And then this is like the third or fourth one in the playoffs alone. You had Dame. Who else?
Tatum, now him. Those are some pretty big stars. But now in retrospect, NBA season's done, man. OkC1. Where do you guys rank this as far as finals overall, OKCs place in, like, you know, emerging young teams? Is. Is this a team that. Are they going to break the.
The Adam Silver, you know, different champion every year curse thing and maybe pull off a little dynasty in the middle of all this, you know, deregulation of superstar moves? And what can we look forward to going to next season?
[00:22:35] Speaker C: I. We talked about it a couple weeks ago, I think, going into the playoffs for okc, like, they're. They're built to be good to great for an extended period of time. We're talking like, you know, five, seven years. Because they're the. They were saying, like the, the young. They're the youngest team. I don't know, is it ever? Or.
[00:22:51] Speaker A: I mean, they're think since the blazers in. In 71.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Second youngest team since the shot clock era behind the Blazers. Yeah.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: Okay, so youngest ever. They still got draft picks. I don't know. They're probably still getting draft picks from the Clippers for the Paul George SGA trade from like five years ago or whatever like that. So, you know, they still got stuff coming in that's going to keep replenishing what they do with those picks. You know, I know we'll talk a little bit later about the, the Durant move. But you know what, what do they, what do they add? You know, which of these guys are they going to extend as as things come up, but they have the opportunity here to go for a run. The East. Man, you got three teams in the east that were the top, what, four or five season just lost players to Achilles here in the playoffs, though, as you go into the the east next year, who knows what that's going to shake out. I mean it's going to be probably wide open again for them. So there's an opportunity for the Thunder is the Nuggets maybe just the closest if they can figure out what they're going to be direction they're going to do around Jokic and the head coach and whatever's kind of going around there. But the Thunder got a real possibility.
The question's going to be, I don't want to go conspiracy theory right now.
We'll see what the ratings look like for this NBA Finals right now. But I saw a lot of people on X talking crap about this Oklahoma City Pacers thing.
When's, when's the commissioner pick up the red phone here and dial something that we need the big, the big markets in it. Because I don't think you're gonna get a ton of love from the, from the OKC Indiana finals going forward or different markets like that. Think back to, you know what? I'll think back to when we were doing the original radio show and the three of us were together. I think we were doing segments about the San Antonio, Detroit NBA Finals during that time. And we were talking about the boring spurs dynasty of the time. And we didn't have the excitement of the Lakers and everything.
There's something, there's something about this Thunder team that's kind of Spurs s where you got a quiet superstar and sga like a Tim Duncan and kind of the rest of this team that is. Isn't flashy, isn't a show. But they're going to just reel off some titles. And is it. Does it give that extra box office that the NBA generally wants? Because you think of, you think of NBA, you think of dynasties, you think of superstars, you think about eras. We think of the brand and teams. And there, and there's, there's some, there's some. There's obviously money and brands. The lakers selling for 10 billion.
But at the end of the, but at the end of the day, at the end of the day, it's about those superstars going to be out there. So you think of the superstars associated with the brand.
I don't know if SGA is going to be that type of guy. You know, it's a different generation right now. How many different NBA championships have changed champions have we had? It's been what, since the Warriors? Back to back.
So it's almost a full decade now, give or take that. We've had kind of back to back runs. So we're getting new champions every year.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:25:48] Speaker C: If Oklahoma City goes on a run, is it is going to be an exciting dynasty. We're going to talk about with SGA and chat.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: That's why you say it's such a hater.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you're such a hater.
Look at I think okc, the numbers so that they did, you know, you, you talked about it multiple times. Rome historical numbers throughout regular season, margin of victory. Their defense being one of the best and I mean their defense as far as being able to get steals and cause turnovers is elite. I mean, that's what ended up winning them game seven here tonight.
You know, they're a small market, but they have, you know, the best player this year in the league, sga.
They're, they've got young players. Death. Sam Preci's done a great job putting that team together.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: Dude. Jay Williams is only 23.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: It's only his third year in the league too. That is crazy. I mean, we go back last year when we looked at their playoff run. What do we say? They needed to add a big guy. They went out, added Hartenstein and that really, really helped them out big time. That got him over the top here. They got Caruso. When we talked about getting rid of Josh Giddy, they added some veteran players that ended up being big role players and beneficial for that team.
We'll touch on it. I mean, who's, who's the threat for them in the West? I mean there's always going to be new blood coming in. We're going to talk about KD going to the Rockets. That's a big move. I mean, what about Joker and the Nuggets? I mean, this guy had no bench. They had no bench. Denver and they were able to push these guys seven games. So if you're Denver, get this guy some role players on the bench and watch out because they just need about one or two guys. That's it.
[00:27:27] Speaker A: That's Denver is, is messing this one up for sure.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: So I mean, they'll have their big guy there. You know, the rookie they drafted towards ACL in summer league. So they'll have some backup to Joker off the bench next year.
And then in the east ism wasn't here. We talked about Desmond Bain going to Orlando. But now how big does that trade look now of how they're burton out. Not only do you lose Game 7 this year, but you're basically done next year. I mean Indiana's not making the same run next year. Let's, let's, I think we're all in the same page on that. Yeah, Boston, Boston is out. Now the Knicks look perfect except they can't get their front office in the coaching situation. Right? Rome, I'm with you.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: Maybe they should call him back.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: It's happening.
[00:28:14] Speaker A: Do it.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: Hey, no one's gonna know. There's no Tatum. We miss you. We want you back.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: It would be the funniest thing because no one would criticize them for doing it. They would probably applaud them for hiring back their coach that they fired.
[00:28:27] Speaker C: Or, or, or Tibbs just does full Castanza, you know he does the George Castanza just walks into work on Monday like, like I never there and quit, you know.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: Oh, you fire me.
[00:28:38] Speaker C: Oh, you were serious? You were serious about that?
[00:28:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I was just joking that I quit.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: I still work here, so. Yeah, I mean the east, the east is wide open. I mean Cleveland, Cleveland's going to be good. We know they were really good. Indiana beat them and then the Knicks, I mean those are your two top teams now in the East. And then Detroit, now they may Are they ready to take that next flight next year? Because all these teams are kind of going out in Miami. You know, that kind of hurts them now, Right, because they were in the KD sweepstakes. Now they ain't got no superstar because they would have jumped into the top four getting KD right off the bat there too.
So all these teams, all these teams now in the east, especially with the two top dogs going down, I mean the east is wide open. It is wide open.
[00:29:23] Speaker C: You know who's still going to be 41 and 41 though next year, right?
[00:29:26] Speaker B: Aaron, I already know.
[00:29:30] Speaker C: Chicago Bulls.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: Them and the Hawks will still be playing in the playing game.
[00:29:35] Speaker C: The 910 matchup right there. Lock it in.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: That's fine. Hey, Rome.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: I, I, I don't know if you went back. I, I haven't I'm sure you maybe you have some NBA notes, but I want to say we were pretty right on a lot of NBA stuff. I know we all had the Thunder, I believe get into the finals before this season started in our NBA season preview like Jason Just mentioned we had the bulls in the plan. I mean, I was spot on again. Correct.
So, I mean, despite, you know, our Phoenix Suns mishap mistake. But that was, you know, before KD got hurt early year. I think her NBA takes were probably about 80 plus percent. Right? Overall.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe.
Overall. Yeah.
[00:30:14] Speaker C: I think maybe in the one year anniversary of the pod, as we gear up for football season, Rome just holds us accountable going into the new year. We start logging some of these things down just to prove the effectiveness. So we just, the people know how right we generally are. I mean, all of Aaron's, you know, college football winners, some of my NFL winners that are gonna be coming up.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: Pretty big on the NBA.
I, I do business.
Yeah. Yeah, the missiles are pretty big like, like the Suns, like Detroit Pistons. Those are some pretty big ones.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: But yeah, I mean, I'm wrong on two out of what, the 20 teams that make the playoffs. I'll take that 90 on the multiple test chances.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: Okay. See repeats next year odds. Give it to me.
Give it to me.
[00:31:06] Speaker C: I thought it's a. Vegas already had it like +200 or something like their favorites.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: Do you guys.
[00:31:11] Speaker B: In front of you, Rome, do you.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: Guys know who the second favorites are?
[00:31:14] Speaker C: I saw it, so I can't say that I did.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: Look it up. Don't look it up.
This is just blank shooter right now. God damn it, Jason.
[00:31:23] Speaker C: I know. Sorry.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: What'd he say?
[00:31:25] Speaker C: I didn't say it, but I looked it up.
[00:31:27] Speaker A: Okay, Aaron guess second favorite.
[00:31:29] Speaker B: I hate to say it, but it might be the Houston Rockets.
[00:31:32] Speaker A: Ding, ding, ding. Yep. Houston has the second best.
The Pacers did have some pretty good odds, but I'm pretty sure the Halliburton thing knocks that out. So I haven't seen it since then.
[00:31:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I can't change it.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: Until they confirm that he tore his ACL or, or his Achilles.
[00:31:46] Speaker B: Yeah, they'll confirm.
[00:31:49] Speaker C: Are the, Are the. Are the Knicks number three what you're looking at right now?
[00:31:52] Speaker A: No, I didn't see that. No. Are they number three?
[00:31:55] Speaker B: I would assume it'd probably be the Cavs.
[00:31:58] Speaker C: I saw the knicks and Cavs plus 650.
[00:32:00] Speaker A: That's ridiculous. The. The Knicks need to coach first.
[00:32:03] Speaker C: The Knicks. Knicks get that, that extra lift like the Lakers do.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: That's ridiculous. Don't give me an extra Lakers.
Well, I enjoyed this finals. I thought it was great. I thought it's good for basketball. I know ratings might not be the best, but honestly, sometimes the ratings like this was really good basketball on both sides. It was really awesome. And I kind of hope it continues. If a little run goes on with okc, so be it. But they got some heavy hitters coming at them. You got Houston, they're retooling. We can start talking about that KD trade right now. You got Denver's always going to be a force with Nikolai, although you don't know what's going to happen there. They're pretty beat up. You gotta imagine Lakers will tool up again.
You got San Antonio emerging with their three headed behemoth rookie monster there.
It's gonna be a fight on the west and the East. Everyone's down with Achilles, so we'll see which one of these young teams. My money, Detroit Pistons making some movement next year. I really like them as a team. If they can pick somebody up by the tread day line, I like them to make some moves.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: I think if you're looking for a team in the East, I think Jason touched on it NBA Finals wise. But the Cavaliers, I mean, they were a little bit, they were a little bit banged up and they ran into Indiana and Indiana, you know, took him out in, what was it, five games, beat him three times there.
You know, Darius Garland had that toe injury. I think he's even getting surgery on it now.
[00:33:33] Speaker A: He's out for five months.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, Mobley, those guys are banged up. Hunter. But Cleveland's well coached. They're.
They got no doubts they can win. I have no doubts they can win 60 games again.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:33:46] Speaker B: And now Boston and Indiana are out.
So the Knicks, Rome, they don't even have a coach who wants to be the coach. I mean, maybe that job becomes more lucrative with these guys being out. You know, the problem is they keep asking all the teams, you know, maybe they should call Indiana. I think Jason alluded to this and call Rick Carlisle and ask if he's available for an interview because obviously he doesn't know how to run his players into the ground. So he'd be perfect. He'd be perfect for New York.
[00:34:12] Speaker A: If anything, he gives everyone too many minutes.
[00:34:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: Cool, man.
Let's take a quick break. We come back, let's talk about the KD trade, the mega trade that I, I thought they're, they could have waited one more day or two to announce this one, but Game seven, KD to the Houston Rockets. Congrats OKC on winning their first chip. We'll see this beginning of a new dynasty. We'll be back.
All right, we are back.
Second mega trade, blockbuster trade in the NBA in the off season during The NBA Finals Suns finally trade KD to the Rockets. KD finds out while he's on the stage at Fan Fest in New York.
He was kind of caught off guard, so that's always fun. But Katie goes to Houston for Jalen Green. Dylan brooks, the number 10 pick to this year's draft, which is next week, and then five second round picks and all that is official beginning of the new year.
We were kind of talking about it before we hit record here.
I do like the trade, but I do like Jaylen Green. You know, that's really tough. I guess a lot of the conversations around trading kd, they tried getting more picks and, and more younger stars back and and teams were not willing to do that. Miami was not willing to do that.
I guess Milwaukee was in the mix.
San Antonio was in the mix potentially, but no one to give away their young stars.
Houston finally does it, but they only give up one in Jalen Green who is crazy, hella good and is progressing really fast. He's going to be a player I think to be reckoning with for the next 10 years. Dylan Brooks, kind of a pest on defense, solid. Gives a little toughness to the Phoenix Suns which they were lacking.
But then Houston gets KD who apparently was still the best in the NBA at mid range and also ISO situations for, for scoring points which Houston ranked near the bottom of the NBA throughout the season.
Although they did get the number two seed.
The joke was they didn't know how to score points.
The irony of everything.
So thoughts on Katie going to Houston and what this means for the west coast and for Houston going to next year?
[00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah, Rome. I mean KD going to Houston, blockbuster trade like you say, Jalen Green, Dylan brooks, the number 10 pick in this year's draft and then five second round picks. I like it for Houston.
I mean you mentioned that they couldn't score points in the playoffs at a consistent pace. I mean their defense was really good.
Dylan Brooks was one of their more defensive enforcers for sure. That's what he does. He's a defensive guy and he's an okay shooter from time to time.
But I think if you go back and look at the playoffs, Jalen Green was not good.
He wasn't great. He struggled. He's young like you mentioned.
But he did. He only had one good game where he scored. I think it was game two. He scored like 30 plus points. And then you go back and you look at game seven. I think he had less than double figures in that game. He was a no show, had a Bad performance.
And I think I left a sour taste in the Rockets mind really going into the off season. And the opportunity where the stock at, where it's at, the chance to get rid of them and get a guy like KD is good. This all is gonna work out. If they can resign Fred Von Fleet, he's a free agent, I think they're gonna have to. They got no choice. They got no point guard now with Green being gone, but they didn't give up a lot for him. They still got a deep bench, Jabari Smith, all those guys off the bench.
They still got a good size, good wing players.
And now you add KD to the mix, I think it's a win. Win for Houston right now. For the.
If I'm the Suns, I mean, I would have maybe liked a little more back in return.
You got Green, you got Brooks, you got Booker, the number 10. I mean, it's a rebuild there in Phoenix for sure. I mean, looking at it right now, the Rockets definitely, I think, won the side of the draft. And based off the odds coming out of Vegas being number two, they seem to agree, too, that Houston's the biggest threat to the OKC Thunder going forward.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that's where I disagree, though. Green teams don't like giving away assets like that. They're like, they're becoming all Stars. They're giving away a guy that could potentially be there for the next 10 years. KD, he might have a year or two left if he's lucky.
[00:39:00] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah, I mean, but we're seeing that now. I.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: The window is, does Katie change it that much for Houston, where, like, with all the young guys around him now that makes him a title contender?
[00:39:13] Speaker B: I wouldn't have said that's not really funny. You actually, if you, if you, if you watch the playoff series, I think Jalen Green was so bad in that series that they probably figured.
Yes, but they probably figured like, hey, we can move them now.
If he has another poor playoff, his stock drops down as far as trade value.
Like you said, he's young, he's still got high upside and the Rockets have good depth. They. They couldn't score points again. They got to sign Van Fleet and then what other else they can bring in?
But I think it's a big. I think it's a big move for them because they got that Thompson guy who's really, really good. You partner him with KD Van Fleet, the big guy they have at center. Then you got Jabari Smith and a couple Easton and all those guys coming off the bench, I think Houston, it's an upgrade right now for the next year or two and that's, that's what they wanted, right? They wanted to be a threat, they wanted to go for a title. That's where it's at. Jalen Green, I like him, but until he learns to develop a mid range game like an SGA and all those guys are, he's not going to be that great player. It's either three or layups. He's got to develop a mid range game. Until he does, he's, he's not going to be what we think he may be able to be even he's athletic. Freak.
[00:40:29] Speaker C: Yeah, the, the. Before we started recording, Romo talking about the, the contract for Jalen Green. So the Rockets signed to an extension before the season started.
So he was on his rookie deal and so that extension goes into effect now. So now he becomes, you know, he comes a pricey, a pricier addition from the contract. So what. You know, I think this gives Houston some more financial flexibility going forward post kd.
That allows them to probably make some different moves and then. So. Excuse me. So all the, all the additional players they have, you know, Jabari Amen, you talk about a couple of the other young guys as they kind of, you know, mature and starting extensions too. I think this is where you're looking for some of the long term, you know, building around the cap at the same time too, but also gives you the win now window with whatever remaining years KD has right in his prime, whether it's like two, three years or do they have. So the assets at the same time too. They give a bunch of seconds. Okay. They still got firsts. And so I think there's a little more to this roster construction they can have without giving up a whole lot. You gave up one piece, but the piece you're getting back is much better and you didn't sacrifice any depth and have you still have more room to play with. I think this off season is what Houston's looking for.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: Interesting. I guess we'll see how this plays out.
So with the trade, Houston second best odds to win the 2526 NBA title at sportsbooks.
KC Thunder at first at 250, Rockets are at 750.
Do you guys have the list for like the next three people after that.
[00:41:59] Speaker C: Tough to NBA title?
[00:42:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And is there an update on Indiana's value now?
[00:42:05] Speaker B: Indiana's probably not on the board or probably whatever middle of the pack.
But yeah, I mean Rome, we kind of forget Houston was the number Two seed in the west this year. No, you got knocked out in the first round. And the playoffs been going on for so long, we've kind of forgot they finished number two.
Yeah, and I did not forget.
You know, they just resigned Adams to a three year, $39 million deal. Like I said, they got to sign. They got to sign Van Fleet talking like Jason just said about that trade, like, it seems like it frees up money. So that's the direction they seem like they want to go. Durant likes them. He made a comment after they lost the NBA Finals, basically calling Van Fleet a dog he'd play with any day of the week. So that probably interested him a lot in Houston.
They got a good coach, they got a good system going over there. Now they bring it in. One of the elite scores for a team that did not have scoring. We just talked about okc. They didn't have height and size and bench on their, you know, Caruso and guys like that. They brought in players, they won a title. I like to move for Houston.
I like Jalen Green, but, you know, until he shows me he can develop a mid range game like, you know, guys like Williams and SGA have, it's. He's just an average player in the NBA going forward.
[00:43:22] Speaker A: You kind of sound like those guys criticizing Kaylin Clark for not winning the championship in her first year. That's what it sounds like to me.
Sounds like a little crazy talk.
[00:43:32] Speaker B: I'm like, I'm not criticizing him. I mean, I like Jalen Green, but if I can trade, if I could trade him, the trade for that Houston got, I think it's, it's really nice for them. I think it's really, really nice for him. And if they're like Jason said, they already gave him an extension. They get that off the books. We already know they have a pretty deep bench, but they're, you know, Houston was not a good three point shooting team. I mean, we talked about was it game seven. They got out, they got beat, but plus 39. The Warriors, I think were plus 39 in game seven at the three point line in that final. That's game seven series.
[00:44:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. Warriors got lucky making out of that. But if the Rockets would have moved on, they matched up really well with the Timberwolves, who, who knows how that would have turned out in the, in the second series.
Yeah, I'm really kind of curious how Katie. I guess one of the big contentions too was Katie has a lot of flexibility. You know, he has the option of signing on or not. Which kind of limited and gave him a lot of the power of where he got traded to. So. Versus other superstars. He listed it San Antonio Heat. For some reason, I don't know why he would want to go play for the Heat. Like, they're done.
It's time to retool and kind of, kind of reset, in my opinion. But Houston, though, he'll be the third former Thunder to go play there from that epic young Thunder team.
So.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:59] Speaker C: Rome, ESPN bet updated in the last hour.
2025, 2026. NBA championship odds Thunder plus 20 plus 220.
Cleveland Cavaliers plus 700.
New York Knicks plus 750.
Houston Rockets plus 850.
And then the Pacers, Timberwolves, Celtics and Lakers all 14 to one.
[00:45:24] Speaker B: What are the.
What are the Magic at 18 to one.
[00:45:28] Speaker C: Them and the Nuggets are both 18 to one.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: The next on the list, Nuggets, 18 to one. That's enticing. I'm not gonna lie.
[00:45:34] Speaker A: How's that enticing?
[00:45:35] Speaker B: I mean, they were. I mean, if you look at these playoffs, even they're the third best team in these playoffs with no bench.
[00:45:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: Now. Now they've got a coach that, you know, supposedly they like more and David Adelman, who I think's a really good coach.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not buying that stuff yet.
[00:45:51] Speaker B: 18:1 is really good odds to get Denver at. That's. That's really nice odds.
[00:45:57] Speaker A: I'll take my Lakers with those odds because, you know, now we have a billionaire owner. Maybe Giannis joins the Lakers sometime next year before the trade team up with Lucas.
[00:46:05] Speaker C: Isn't B. This isn't baseball, Rome. You don't just get to buy everyone just because you got the. All right, you know, there's still a salary cap. I know, I know it doesn't matter in the NBA, but now they're going.
[00:46:15] Speaker A: To hire smarter people in the front office. You know, things can happen. So.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: And if you just.
[00:46:19] Speaker C: You stole Luca, all right, with the smart people you got already, you can't just buy people now, too.
[00:46:24] Speaker A: Something's going to happen this year.
[00:46:25] Speaker B: A lot. A lot's going to go on with the Lakers, man. I mean, all the. All these people that have been just roaming around collecting paycheck from Genie Bus, they're on their way out. I mean, the Lakers front office have been poorly ran for a while. Their scouting department's been bad.
[00:46:38] Speaker A: Their scout department's actually pretty good. They always draft pretty well.
[00:46:41] Speaker B: They have, but they, They're. They're under.
[00:46:43] Speaker A: They're understaffed they're understaffed, but the scouting has been on point.
[00:46:48] Speaker B: They have hit, but I believe they've. They've underachieved as far as what they could potentially be really realistically.
And you talked about Giannis. I mean, I think Giannis got to be happy now in the east of all these guys going down. I know he lost Dame Lillard, but the east is where it's at. Maybe going forward. I mean, there's going to be some teams trying to make some noise, I think, in the Eastern Conference. Cleveland, like, you know, Jason just mentioned, I. I think they're probably the most likely team to come out of the east next year.
[00:47:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's safe. That's safe.
You guys want to talk more about the KD trade or anything else? That's it, huh? I love it. I love it. Time to watch more baseball, you guys.
[00:47:26] Speaker B: That's all we got, man.
[00:47:27] Speaker C: MLB preview show. We're getting to it at the All Star, so.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: Second half. Second half when it matters most. We'll do the second half breakdown now.
[00:47:36] Speaker A: Watching more baseball. Yeah, I. I think we'll do the preview show soon.
[00:47:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, we can do the second half. I mean, All Star games coming up here in, what, probably, what, three weeks?
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Have no clue.
[00:47:49] Speaker C: Yeah, about three weeks. Yep. Should be like second week of July.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:47:53] Speaker A: Awesome.
Katie to the Houston Rockets Thunder claimed the first championship. Sga, the new king of the hill. We'll see.
Fuck.
[00:48:04] Speaker B: Dude.
[00:48:05] Speaker A: There really isn't much till football.
[00:48:06] Speaker C: I guess there's plenty of good racing on Sunday's rome. We have IndyCar at Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin today. Alex Palo, sixth race win of the year of nine so far. One of the most dominating IndyCar seasons since AJ Foyt in the late 70s right now. So come on. There's plenty of great stuff. There was some great NASCAR race at the Tricky Triangle up in Pocono today.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: The Tricky Triangle. That's what it's called.
[00:48:30] Speaker C: Tricky. Tricky triangle.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:32] Speaker C: Come on.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: God damn it.
[00:48:35] Speaker B: Sounds like. Sounds like a bar room. Hangs out on the weekends.
[00:48:38] Speaker C: Man, that does sound like a San Francisco bar.
[00:48:41] Speaker A: That's a cool name. Dive bar, actually.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: It's that tricky. The tricky is the sneaky part about that place.
[00:48:51] Speaker C: Yeah. You got Formula one coming up Rome.
[00:48:55] Speaker A: It sounds like the Tricky Triangle is like dating in today's world.
You have to, like, ask again. Like, the Tricky Triangles.
[00:49:02] Speaker B: You're not sure what you're gonna get.
[00:49:03] Speaker A: I just wanted to make sure basically what it is. I want to make sure you want any surprises. All Right.
[00:49:08] Speaker B: You don't know if you get a handful of potato chips or what's going on down there at the old tricky triangle.
[00:49:15] Speaker A: Maybe I'll save that story for the controversy section. I have a funny story.
[00:49:19] Speaker C: Oh no.
[00:49:20] Speaker A: Tricky triangle. Let me just tell you that. That's called a teaser, guys.
[00:49:25] Speaker C: The controversy segment. Gotcha.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
Wouldn't even know. Couldn't even know.
I thought it was potato chips.
Those french fries.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: Sweet potato or regular?
[00:49:37] Speaker A: I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know how far this analogy can go.
I'm done anyways.
[00:49:44] Speaker C: Rome, big summer, Formula one. We're going to Europe. Austrian Grand Prix coming up. We got England, got spa. It's gonna be great.
[00:49:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I. So I've been thinking about the racing game non stop every day. I need to get an Xbox. I need to get a steering wheel. I. I got like a. A get a shopping wish list now on what I want to buy, I'm trying to figure out how to rearrange the living room so I can make it seamless.
[00:50:13] Speaker C: You're going to Xbox over PlayStation, huh?
[00:50:16] Speaker A: I don't know.
I notoriously always played on Xboxes, But I heard PlayStation is the way to go.
[00:50:24] Speaker C: A PlayStation guy. So.
[00:50:25] Speaker A: So I could say I just want to play.
Besides racing games, it would be nice to play Madden again, like some 2k.
I want to play Grand Theft Auto.
I want to play the Fallout games and also Skyrim or whatever. Whatever weird game that is where you can do stuff.
[00:50:47] Speaker C: That sounds like another weird bar. You go to Skyrim?
[00:50:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it definitely does.
Skyrim. Skyrim where the rim. Where the rim jobs are the best.
[00:51:01] Speaker C: Or the sky. Or the Skyrim's what you do with the tricky triangle. I don't know.
[00:51:05] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go.
There you go.
That's. That's a drink. You can get the old tricky triangle. Let me get that. Sky Rim.
[00:51:11] Speaker A: Tricky triangle. Actually sounds like a. A Corona bar. It's like some weird.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: Hey, don't, don't, don't, don't. We throw that down here.
[00:51:19] Speaker A: A bunch of hicks down there.
Republicans. I know, I know. What's going down in, in Corona, right? The tricky triangles.
[00:51:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
We'll show you what the tricky triangle is all about. Next time you're down here Rome, we'll show you. We'll show you. What's up?
[00:51:36] Speaker A: I'll do it, man.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: Get a side of Skyrim. Can I get a. Can I get a side of Skyrim with that, ma' am?
[00:51:42] Speaker A: I'll do it. The source of the sofa we're going delirious here. Sunday night, game seven. Congrats, okc. We are out.
