Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: What's up, everybody? Sources from the sofa. We're recording Monday night, a quarter to nine.
We're right in the middle of NBA free agency. Just kicked off today. And everyone on X was like wondering like, what the hell is going on. There was no breaking news, no like crazy swings. It took a while to get going. Then all of a sudden, bam, bam, bam. Things are moving. This is going to be a crazy offseason. Already kind of started at the NBA draft right before it with trades happening.
Actually right at the NBA Finals with kd. Right. Being traded to the Houston Rockets.
Who else got traded? Aaron.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: What? Desmond. Desmond Bain from Memphis to Orlando.
[00:00:47] Speaker A: Orlando, yeah. That was a pretty big trade for Zingus Porzingis. Oh, yeah. We haven't talked about, I guess the Celtics dismantling a little bit, getting underneath that second apron because that's all happened since our last pod. But they traded some pretty big contracts in. Drew Holiday, who looked a little slower this past year going back to the team that Milwaukee trade them to initially. Portland Trailblazers.
There's talks about possible buyout and that's it situation. And then Porzingis being shipped to Atlanta. Lot of people like Atlanta's moves going on right now. Poingis, everyone. I like Porzingis, but he's always injured. Had one great year, at least, at least one great postseason run and helped solidify that chip for Boston, which was like, in my opinion, one of the deepest teams in the NBA Finals in a. In a long time.
Really impressive run. That was two years ago or last year rather. Gez choking up and then NBA free agency is off the charts, man.
Biggest. I don't know where you guys want to start just because I'm trying to catch up. There's like lots of moves going around. One thing that's interesting to me at least, I guess we'll, we'll start off here. Is Denver Nuggets shipping big time fan favorite Michael Porter Jr. To the Brooklyn Nets for Cameron Johnson.
Very similar players. I'm not sure if it's much, if it's that much of an upgrade, but at least Cameron Johnson, is he a little younger and definitely a little healthier?
[00:02:20] Speaker B: Definitely. Probably gonna be healthier. I mean, Michael Porter Jr. You know, he's had those back problems and issues that kind of derailed the start of his career. But yeah, I'm kind of reading up on it.
Also, they sent the unprotected 2032 first round pick to the Nets in exchange for, according to espn, I mean, Cam Johnson.
I mean, I haven't really followed him at Brooklyn. I mean he was part of that Suns team that got to the 2021 NBA Finals with McGill Bridges and then they were both part of the that KD swap that sent KD from Brooklyn to Phoenix.
But yeah, I mean I like them. I mean Porter Jr. He's one of the best shooters in the league. Six, you know, six ten long wingspan.
But defensively there's always been questions about them. You know, durability.
Cam Johnson kind of brings that toughness they're looking for and they're going to add some players to their bench too. It looks like they resigned Brown too back to Denver. So it looks like what we talked about on the last pod that Denver needed to add some depth and some quality players and improve on defense. They had the number one offensive rated team but ranked in the bottom of defense.
We all know that to be an elite team in the NBA and make a deep run in the playoffs, defense does matter. So Denver seems to be addressing those important issues early here as the we begin free agency.
[00:03:41] Speaker C: Yeah, those trades particularly with the analysis on that for Denver is it really aligns what they need for bike joke. It just prime right now for the next like three to four years or whatever you're getting guys are going to help in this immediate. So trading that first round pick while hey we're just giving up a first round pick to be able to get a player that's I don't know there's between Porter and Johnson you're probably getting someone in Johnson that has just better availability. As you talk through phrase of Porter's injuries you mentioned through Aaron. But I think this is really what Denver is doing is hey we got this guy. We have a generational player with Nikola Jokic. We're going to get all the guys we can in the next three to five years to try to get another championship.
[00:04:24] Speaker A: Yeah, some other I guess free agent signings. I I guess your guys's Chicago Bulls making some moves. I sent Jason a pretty funny meme on Instagram.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: I mean the Bulls, the Bulls aren't worth mentioning right now. None of those moves even move the needle. So let's move on to the next team.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: Lots of bald though got moved to the Cavs and now there's rumors. Yeah, moved again.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a great. I was, that's what I was gonna say. It was a great move for the Cavs. I, I don't know what the hell the Bulls are doing because rumor was they could have got a first round pick for Alonzo like around the trade deadline or whatever and they don't trade him and then, you know, I, you know, just get an, an average player in return maybe. I don't know what they got. I mean all the draft analysis or NBA analysis were just ripping the Bulls for the value they got there. And then the Bulls re signed. I think their entire front office that's just been, you know, the, the 41 and 41, 9, 10 seed show. So they're just going to be, you know, staying on that. So it's Aaron's point, like it's not even worth talking about. Team's a joke.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah, I mean Ball, like Jason said, they could have gotten a lot more. I mean Caruso, they could have got a lot more.
Right now what they are doing, I don't know. I mean they like, they like winning between 30 and 40 games and that's the window they seem like they want to be stuck in for the next part of this decade, it looks like.
[00:05:43] Speaker C: Yeah, they did some great analysis for the trades of like Levine, the Rosen, Caruso and Ball. And like they got Josh Giddy and a bunch of crap basically all in return for a bunch of guys that are contributors to playoff teams.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I see they just signed Trey Jones. I don't even know who he is. To a three year, $24 million contract. He was part of that Zach Levine trade from that sent him to the King. So yeah, a lot more better signings out there, Rome. So let's go. Let's move on to the next teams.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it looks like Atlanta's making a lot of moves. Actually, I thought Jordan Clarkson.
By the way, Nick's finally interviewing your guy who just got fired from Sacramento, former Mike Brown, to a second round of interviews. I guess he's leading candidate. Not sure if I like that. Just go apologize to the tipsman to bring him back.
It's just such a mess.
What a shame.
[00:06:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean, Tibs, I mean they jumped the gun early on that right? I mean, if you would have waited till after these NBA Finals have been over and seen how well Indiana performed and played in that series. And if the Knicks don't lose game one, you know, with Aaron E. Smith knocking down five three pointers in the final two minutes and what happened there, I mean, if the Knicks win game one, that series likely is going seven games.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: So tough to see Tibbs get fired. Who knows if he's going to get another head coaching gig.
But yeah, I mean, I like what the Knicks are doing right now or adding Jordan Clarkson. Like you mentioned, they need to add some players, prominent players off their bench that can score and he's a double figure scorer. That's something they really lacked this season.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: So let's talk I guess about like the Houston Rockets because they're kind of retooling. They kept a lot of their main guys in.
Clint Capella, he's going back home. He was there for what, five or so seasons and, and three year, $21 million deal.
His trade to the Hawks in 2020, pretty big pickup. I know there was some rumors that the Lakers were interested in him. Same thing with bringing back broke Lopez. But broke Lopez is allegedly going to the Clippers on a pretty nice deal actually too. Two years, 18 million.
[00:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean I also saw Houston sign the other big guy from the Lakers, Finnie Smith.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: Finney Smith, that was a, that's a pretty good pickup.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: I mean the Lakers, who needed size and length, have watched three capable guys just go off the board really right now in Lopez, Smith and as you mentioned, Clint Compella. So yeah, I mean Deandre Ayton is probably the guy they're waiting for, but we'll see.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: Yeah, Smith was an interesting one because once he opted out then I kind of opened up some cap space underneath the second apron and it allowed them to use the full 14 and a half, whatever that vet mid level exception is. And now they're signing somewhere else. Now they get even a little bit more of that piece of that pie. So good. But he was actually a pretty big pickup coming from Dallas, so not really sure. I did see that the Lakers signed that white guy from the Jazz or the Sacramento Kings, rather.
Jake Laravia.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I just, I just saw that.
[00:08:58] Speaker A: Which I'm not. I haven't seen too much of his game to be honest.
[00:09:01] Speaker B: Does anybody know who he is?
[00:09:03] Speaker A: I, I know he's. He has, he's decent. I just haven't seen too much played with Memphis.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: I, I think I know who he is. I just got to see him. I got to see his face. Two or 12 million, that's a team friendly deal.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: Seems like it seems like a lot of people right now. The Lakers aren't taking team friendly deals. Are interested in those.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Yeah, well, Mavericks, D' Angelo Russell going to them two years, 13 million coming off the bench. Mavs. I was looking at their roster, man. They look, they look really nice. That's a nice team. That's a nice.
[00:09:39] Speaker C: Is he coming off the bench or is he going to be starting with. With Kyrie out he'll probably start to.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: Start the year I guess.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: And then I guess when Kyrie comes back after the new year it might, you know, potentially go back to the bench.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: But yeah, yeah, a lot of team over there, man. A lot of people that get injured. But on paper they look really nice.
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Real nice.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: I mean real nice NBA Live. I'd be picking them to play.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, I mean Cooper flag probably the top consensus rookie of the year pick but he's going to put up good numbers. I mean he's not going to put up superstar numbers right away. But they got the three headed horsemen basically in Davis, the Gabbard and Lively. I mean all those guys are rim protectors, can rebound and do all the things which they need because d' Angelo Russell is not a wing player. He doesn't play any defense. So he, Dallas is loading up on the back end and then he's still got.
I can't even remember his name that comes off the bench. Another big wing player for them that's like six, nine. I can't think of his name right now. But they've got a lot of depth if they can all stay healthy. So I mean that's kind of the key going forward. We looked at teams that had a lot of depth, were really successful in these playoffs.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: What do you think about all the moves that Memphis is doing right now?
I guess Cole Anthony, they're letting him walk or trying to find like a signing trade situation so they can make space for Jaren Jackson.
So they're kind of retooling. They just shipped out Bane out. I'm guessing it was to make room for Jaren Jackson. He's going to be signing a pretty big contract. 240 million, five years.
That's crazy. I think they just signed.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: Yeah, he just signed a 540 million. I like Adama, I like him.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Three years, 52 million. That's pretty nice.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: He's a good little player. I like him.
[00:11:32] Speaker A: So far I haven't seen like any like crazy like ugly contracts that we see that, that we've seen in the past.
You know, like, like some like role player, they just kind of happen to have like a few good weeks and then now they're getting paid 20 million because the team's desperate. I think like the new, the way the new CBA works is, is going to kind of limit those kind of contracts moving forward.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean you don't really. I'm trying to think, I mean what are some big free agents out there? I mean a lot of these guys.
I mean, Harden kind of got a ridiculous deal if you ask me. What do you get? Two years.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: That was ridiculous.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: That's a little steep for a guy his age, dude.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Like, he had a bad playoffs. I, I, I, I mean, when has.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: Harden ever had a good playoffs?
[00:12:13] Speaker A: Let's be honest, he just stinks like game six, game seven. All the time.
All the time.
[00:12:19] Speaker C: People are really liking your Brooke Lopez deal though here to the Clippers though.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: It's a good deal.
He's still nice.
[00:12:26] Speaker C: Two years, 16.
[00:12:28] Speaker A: At 16. I thought it was 18.
That's even better.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: Let's see. Yeah, it was a two year deal. Yeah, let's see.
[00:12:35] Speaker A: I would have loved to see him come back to the Lakers because I liked it when he played with the Lakers.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: Two years, 18 million.
But yeah, I mean, I think that's a good deal. I mean he, he backs up Zubok and then they can go a big lineup if they need to. You can still shoot threes. I mean, obviously helps. A big question for him because two years ago he was out what, 50 games of a back injury.
But obviously once the physical comes in and he gets cleared, I, I like the signing. I mean, I thought the Lakers who were rumored to be interested in, would that be a great signing for him because he's a big guy that can spread the court, shoot threes, he can defend the rim. I mean he's always in the top five in shop blocks.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:13:13] Speaker B: And he rebounds. So that was a big gift for the Clippers, actually.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Yeah, Batum goes back as well. Or Batum, whatever.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Two year, eleven and a half mil. Anything that kind of sticks out for you guys so far that's like crazy. Like God damn. Like they signed him or is it just Houston Rockets are just making all the moves now to kind of tool up?
[00:13:35] Speaker B: I think you mentioned it. I like what Atlanta's doing.
I mean they signed doing a lot. Yeah. I mean they just got Alexander Walker from Minnesota.
Good wing player, getting better on offense, had a good playoffs. Looks like they're signing sharpshooter Luke Canard as well.
So that adds, you know, three point wing players to go with Porzingis, so. And they still have Trey Young.
I mean, I was thinking back after we talked about Atlanta last time out, we talked about the east being wide open. I mean they're only four years removed from, I think 20, 21. They made it to the Eastern Conference finals.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: So it's, it feels like a long time ago, but it wasn't that long ago, so. I think given where the east is at, like Quinn Snyder, he needs to start winning now. So the windows open them. Orlando, we talked about it like the east is open, that teams are going to start taking chances and risk.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: I thought K was a pretty good signing for the Hawks.
[00:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah, he, I mean he's a career, what, 40, 42%, three point shooter. He was always good with the Clippers, he was good with Memphis and he's definitely, I mean, Trey Young's going to draw a lot of attention. Say what you want, he doesn't play a lot of defense, but he averages double doubles like crazy. 11 plus assists, 25 plus points.
Can stay healthy with the other pieces they got. You know, Atlanta can be a top six team and maybe do something, but we'll see.
[00:15:01] Speaker A: Alexander Walker, they. Yeah, they made some moves in the draft fleecing the Pelicans.
[00:15:08] Speaker C: What are they doing? Aaron? Man, the Hawks are supposed to be playing the Bulls in that first playing game, you know, looks like they're making.
[00:15:14] Speaker A: A move to like that middle of the pack.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Hey, you know, now that, now that TNT has all that money in that Georgia area, they're investing now in the Atlanta Hawks, they don't need to invest in the NBA anymore. So like that nil secret money that just pops up, I think, I think the Hawks got in on that.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: Dude, they are so aggressive right now.
Pretty wild, I guess, with free agency. Everyone's talking about LeBron James.
First time in his career he's picked up the player option 52mil.
And the press release, man, from his agent, Rich Paul, CEO of Clutch Sports. Pretty interesting. I don't know if you guys heard it or you guys read about it, but saying that The Lakers and LeBron have enjoyed their partnership, but they both know what each other wants. LeBron wants to compete for a championship, but LeBron knows the Lakers are building for the future.
It's like, what the is that about, you know, like, is that like opening the door for potential trade going on? Like, there's rumors that he might go to the Cavs. Cavs are a really good team, but you can't really make that trade work. They. They have to give up a shitload to bring him back. And that's not really worth it.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: It's.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: It's just.
And then he's gonna bitch about the Lakers if he stays like per usual. Which is why I don't like LeBron on Lakers taking 55 fucking million. Then you're complaining that we have no space to sign players. Well, dude, you have 55 fucking million you're already a billionaire. What the fuck are you doing?
You know?
[00:16:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: What do you think?
[00:16:48] Speaker B: I mean, what's the rumor?
[00:16:49] Speaker A: Essential. What's the rumor working in your, in your mind, Aaron?
[00:16:54] Speaker B: I mean, you mentioned Cleveland. I, I think Cleveland, I mean, Cleveland's always got a soft spot in LeBron's heart.
Obviously the Lakers move them, it would probably be to an eastern team. But yeah, I mean he's. I don't know if he's even really signed the tender. He just said he was opting in. I don't know if he's necessary because the Lakers haven't announced the signing. From all what I've heard, a lot.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: Of people have been talking about that too.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: New ownership group.
Do they want LeBron there? I mean, they have money, they spend money. But is LeBron worth spending this type of money on?
And the roster he's always talking about, he wants to see where the roster's at. Well, they've just let a lot of bigs get away. I mean, I know deandre A. Is going to become available here in the buyout and he's probably gonna be the top offensive big guy and he's got some good skills and he fits what the Lakers want to do. Well, yeah, but I would have liked to sign Brooke Lopez and another big to go with that. They don't have really any size. They just lost Smith. He was.
Went 6, 9, 6 10.
So yeah, I mean, I think if a team comes calling and meets the price, whether it's demand or players, I mean, LeBron's one of two players that has a no trade clause. Yeah, so he controls basically his destination. He's basically put the Lakers in a, you know, precarious spot where like, hey, like you said, his agent, like, I want to win, but is it with the Lakers? I don't know. So we'll see what happens.
[00:18:22] Speaker C: I mean, I wouldn't even know how they would make that trade work at what, $53 million or whatever his contract is. So like you're not only like, would you have to give up, like you, you have to have like a dead money contracts of players you don't want to give up. Like, I don't think the Cavs really even have those type of deals on their. So when you mentioned even the Cavs room, like what? I don't even know if the money they'd have to give up. You'd probably have to have like three, four teams involved in this trade and like no one's gonna give anything up if you're just taking on that type of contract. So I mean NBA trades are always crazy like that because you have to make the money match and, and so if the money doesn't match and assets. That's why these draft picks go all over the place because hey, I need you to take, you know, take your asset that has a bunch of money. You have to take this money back. And yeah, this, this guy stinks and his contract sucks. I'll just give you all these picks. Like I don't even know if it's worth it for any of these teams because it's a.
LeBron's an all time great but is he really putting the Cavs over the top in the east versus what they're competing for compare versus what they have now? If they got a cohesive roster that's you know, fairly deep, I don't know if that puts them over the top if they have to give up so much to get him.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: So if he opted out and just signed like the mid level exception like that would have made a lot of sense and he could have went and competed for a championship but I guess he wanted that. 55 miles.
[00:19:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean there's. So I was actually, this is not the tie in but I was actually watching the Red Sox documentary on Netflix. Oh, the Comeback I think it was called. It was interesting reliving that part in history of baseball trades where a rod was going to take like a adjusted contract and the Major League Baseball's Players association stepped in and said no you're not.
And so I don't know with some of these things with like you know, with, with the, the players organizations and stuff like what's the influence on them of like hey, the greatest player of all time like going and just taking like team friendly deals to chase champions and stuff like that. Like there's, I think there's a lot of that stuff when it comes to players versus, I mean collusion but also this players versus owner stuff and like when you start talking about taking discounts at that level, like we can say it right now and maybe LeBron is like that but there's probably like there's bigger maybe negotiations in play when these guys are talking about it. I mean baseball is about, I mean there's many people think baseball is going into work stoppage very soon right now because you know of the, the contract stuff going on with there. So I, there's, I think there's additional negotiations and this is me being conspiracy theorist right now, but there's probably additional things going on where you never know like the, the overall collector about players association versus the owners in situations like this.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: I think Jason's spot on. I think he's right. I don't think it's conspiracy theory. I think it's a fact. I don't think LeBron needs the money, but it hurts other players that do. If LeBron's a billionaire, he can go and sign for 5 million, 10 million, mid level exception, like you mentioned Rome. But other veterans out there, if he does that, then ownership groups and other people can go like, oh, the greatest player in the game signed for a discount. Like now you're not worth as much. So now you're basically devaluing players of what they can or cannot be worth. And I think like you said, the players union frowns upon that. Whatever sport it is, whether it's baseball, basketball, football, I mean, it's always get your money first and then we'll go from there.
LeBron, like you said, could have, I mean he's always kind of, he's had this team, our player option for the last three or four years to the Lakers and he's always opted out and resigned. Another two year, $104 million, he's always signed another extended year. And we get to the summer blockbuster all the time. I mean, LeBron has maybe one or two more years. I don't know where his knees at too. You know, he's coming off what an MCL tear, sprain, whatever it was.
I don't even think he's working out full speed yet because he mentioned that he was still rehabbing and getting up to speed on that.
So what does he have left in the tank as far as coming back from that?
Is he one major injury away from his career being over? You take that money.
But yeah, I think Jason's spot on. I think the players union and everybody looks at it like, hey, if I'm worth this, I mean it's like we, we talked about ridiculous contracts. I mean James Harden just got what, 41 and a half million dollars?
I mean, James Harden to me is a 25 million dollar player in today's NBA, so. And that's, you know, saying, hey, I'm taking 20 less than LeBron James. It sounds like a lot of money until you realize it's 52 million to 41 million. But yeah, I think that's where it all comes in.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: Real quick with, with Lopez side of the Clippers, that's one of Giannis's right hand guys in Milwaukee.
They are getting one of their guards back. But what happens?
He's kind of waiting by the sidelines.
The rumors are a lot of teams are just kind of waiting to see what happens as well, because it's not really on the move at all.
[00:23:32] Speaker C: And I just don't think they're trading him. Like, what is, what's in it for Milwaukee to trade him? Like, what are you gonna get a shitload?
[00:23:42] Speaker A: Are you, I mean, hall for Giannis?
[00:23:44] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I, I, I just don't know because I, I think there was, I think there was a little bit of a switch when it came to like the, these players, like dictating teams that they want to go with. When you look at like the Dame Lillard stuff and are the teams gonna call the bluff on the players that aren't going to make a mess? Like, you know, Harden's gonna make a mess.
Wherever he wanted to go, he's gonna do. But when, when Dane wasn't willing to like make a mess in Portland and he was kind of saying, oh, I'm gonna do this. But then there's got to be like a dancing partner. And so when it came to like Dame, like Miami was like, oh, I want to go to Miami. But like Miami didn't want to give anything up. They're like, okay, we want to go here. And they're like, well, we'll only give you this because this is where he wants to go.
So I, I just don't know, like, is what, what them getting rid of Giannis at that point, like, and you get, you're saying you're getting a haul, but I don't know, man, like it's, I don't know if they're gonna get a haul. You're gonna get five first round picks and be okay with that. Is someone gonna give that and then what are you go get in return and what are you setting this up for? Because hey, you got a small market. You only get like, you only get these star players once in a generation. Like, I, I, I, I put it in, playing out the contract at this point right now, like, what's he got.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Left, two years or three years on this contract here.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: He brought a championship there. And so I think it would be kind of like, yeah, if he wants a trade, I think they would try to honor him and let him go.
[00:25:10] Speaker B: I don't think Giannis wants a trade. I mean, I think if he wanted out, he could have. I mean, I kind of agree with Jason. Like, do I want five first round picks? I mean, if I was going to trade Giannis, I'd Call up the Spurs.
I'd call up the spurs and say, I want your, I want Harper, who just took second.
I want Castle rookie of the year.
I want another player. And then like three first round picks and we'll give you honest.
But I don't think the spurs are going to give them, you know, the rookie of the year of another potential, you know, top five rookie of the year and another nice role player in three first round picks for Giannis, I mean, this is going to be, what, 30?
[00:25:50] Speaker C: He's under contract with them through 20, 27, 2028.
[00:25:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:54] Speaker C: So I mean, they just, they just got years. So I mean, the need. Just because I want out, like, I just, yeah, I agree with there. And like, I'd want the hall. Like, what are you going to get from a hall? And there's only, there's only certain teams that have that or, and then are they going to give up that much? Like, if you're the spurs, like, do you give up that much? Because. Okay, cool. I got, you said, I got, I got a Rookie of the year. I got all these young assets that potentially our team's looking at what the Thunder are doing. We're like, hey, we could be bad for a while. We get all these young guys together and they grow together and all of a sudden I got this deep team. Like, there could be a change in the way teams are putting teams together and not just trying to get the big star.
[00:26:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, because, I mean, you could call the Thunder. I'd call the Thunder and say, give me Jalen Williams, give me Chad Holmrich and Chad Holmgren and two first round picks. Rihanna's right now, are you gonna do that?
[00:26:44] Speaker A: I would, I, I think I, I.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: Think Sam, I think Sam Presti and OKC won it. But that's, that's what I would be doing.
And I would say this is my baseline point of what I'm looking for and let's negotiate if I'm moving Giannis.
[00:27:02] Speaker A: That's actually not a bad trade.
[00:27:06] Speaker B: It's so, I mean, that's the things you gotta ask, right? Like, do you want to give up?
[00:27:15] Speaker A: You just like pull that out of your ass.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: I, I just did.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: Actually. I, I, I think about it, I'm like, God, that's not, that's not, that's actually a pretty good offer.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: I inputted that trade while I was sitting down and rotated my cheeks and that's what pulled out.
[00:27:28] Speaker A: It's.
Maybe you should be a gm. Jesus Christ.
All right, let's, let's get out of the free agency.
I don't know. We'll see what the Lakers do. We'll see what happens with LeBron.
It's a fight, dude. It's. This is the wild.
It's like wild because it's nothing like.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Have you heard where LeBron wants to go play?
If it's not. If it's not, say the Lakers are Cleveland. I mean Miami doesn't really have any assets. I don't think he wants to go back there.
[00:27:58] Speaker C: Yeah, they gotta do those warriors rumors again though.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Those are starting up again.
It would have to be a Jimmy Butler and Koango, right? Two other players and like a couple of draft picks for LeBron to make it work. The Cavaliers.
That's a popular one.
[00:28:17] Speaker B: I mean you could do. I don't think the Cavs would do it. I mean they'd have to probably throw in Donovan Mitchell.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: It has to be like a mix of a team that's like not too young. It has to be like some veteran players because no young team like, like the Thunder are going to give up any of their guys for LeBron James. Like Orlando wouldn't do it. He wouldn't go to Orlando.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: I mean you're. You're renting LeBron for one year. Really maybe two. But let's say one year. What team right now.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: But you don't know what's going to happen that year too because he's now uncharted territory. First guy.
[00:28:47] Speaker B: I think, I think it's a. It's a one year. If I'm a gm, it's a one year rental. I don't want to give up players. I don't. I don't want to give up players. I'd give up draft picks.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: Hold on. What's Jace laughing about?
[00:28:59] Speaker C: You don't want to know. It's fantasy baseball related.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: God.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: A trade offer or what?
[00:29:03] Speaker C: I've got plenty of trade offers. It's a different league, Aaron. Not our league. A different lead. I'm going. I'm going. Head to head. It's a head to head Fantasy Baseball.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: League versus giggling for 20 minutes.
[00:29:14] Speaker C: It's just there's. It's. It's a hilarious. Today. It's a head to head league. So it's by points or whatever.
Generally in a head to head league you get like a 275 points in a week. You got. You usually get a win. 252. I've gotten 123 points on day one alone.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: So I'm just like nice.
[00:29:31] Speaker C: I got, I got, I got Is.
[00:29:33] Speaker B: That a mixed league American and national league?
[00:29:35] Speaker C: It is. I got, I got Cal Raleigh homers, Marcus Semian homer, Gunner Henderson homer. Two homers from a bray you today an eight inning gem from Zach Wheeler.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: Scherzer start B fantasy under the pod. It's like, hey, you, you had Dodger Stadium F1.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: If you're, if you're, if you're in fantasy sports, weather, whatever it is, you're always checking that phone man for alerts. There's nothing like in fantasy Rome.
[00:30:02] Speaker C: You brought up the perfect example, man. You took me, you know, you guys take me to a Dodger game. I'm watching F1 during the Dodger game. You know, I saw an Ohtani home run and I saw Lando Norris pick.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Up his first wino Norris's win this weekend here later on. I guess that's a little segue coming forward, but yeah, I mean that's what we knew. Jason had two phones and two mistresses at the same time.
[00:30:27] Speaker C: Whoa.
[00:30:32] Speaker A: Switch it up to the draft real quick because it was a pretty crazy draft, man. There was so many trades that went down. It was a, it was a very active draft, especially in the second round.
I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying to pull it up right now.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Yeah, let me, let's see. Let's pull it up.
[00:30:56] Speaker C: You could learn a lesson or two in multitasking. I'm over here just managing a fantasy baseball team. You can't even find the draft on espn.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Right Link? Yeah, I can't.
So Cooper flag got picked number one. No.
By the way, I, I hate Nico Harris, him saying like, oh, you know, mass fans trust the process. Like I think they're coming around, you know, with our game plan. Like what your game plan was to have like a mid round first round pick and luckily get a first round or.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: Nico got a lifeline, man. He got a lifeline.
[00:31:29] Speaker A: He got a life full of.
[00:31:30] Speaker B: He got, he got fortunate and lucky.
[00:31:32] Speaker A: I'll tell you that to get lucky.
So they got Cooper flag, the great white hope. Maybe Ron Harper's son went number two out of Rutgers baller.
[00:31:45] Speaker B: There's rumors, there's rumors that they may even move de' Aaron Fox now that they got Harper.
Maybe not this year.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: I didn't like Dear and Fox going to the Spurs. I. I didn't like that fit at all. I know he did pretty decent, but he doesn't really fit with the spurs culture.
[00:32:01] Speaker B: Well, it's going to be a different culture. I mean with San Antonio now that Pop is officially gone so.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: But isn't he running basketball now? Isn't he just staying in the front office?
[00:32:10] Speaker B: I. I don't know. I haven't looked into it. He may be like a, you know, silent consultant or whatever he's going to do. I don't know. Maybe Jason has heard more, but yeah.
[00:32:20] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm pretty sure he has. Just a front office advisory role or something like that.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: Ace Bailey going to the Jazz. That's been making rumors. Have you guys seen his agent?
[00:32:31] Speaker B: No, No, I haven't seen him.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: So supposedly, the guy he hired as an agent, he's. He's an unofficial sports agent. He didn't go through the process to be sanctioned by the NBA, so he's.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: Basically what we've been trying to do for 20 years.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I was gonna go through the process, but yeah, yeah, basically, trust the process.
[00:32:48] Speaker C: Is he like, Tommy DeVito's agent or something?
[00:32:52] Speaker A: Oh, dude, it's even worse.
This guy is wearing, like, the. Like, a picture that. That surface of. He's wearing like this. There's this silver fox, like, mink coat or whatever it is, and he just looks like a straight up, like, thug. Like, just so he's getting his best George.
[00:33:08] Speaker B: His best George Russell impression or what?
[00:33:12] Speaker A: Well, because he's the one that's been canceling all the workouts for the teams before the draft. He was also charging media people, trying to charge them for, you know, just for basic interviews. A lot of people were saying, like, dude, this does not happen.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Is he a friend?
[00:33:28] Speaker A: He's a mutual. I really don't know the details.
I forgot. But apparently he has, like, a long criminal, like, legal history.
And just everything he's been doing has been not being good.
And allegedly he was gonna, you know, help try to get, you know, Bailey out of the Jazz. But, yeah, Bailey came out today or yesterday saying, like, no, I'm happy where I'm at. Happy with the Jazz. It's actually a good fit for him.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: U S is a good spot for him, actually.
But, yeah, I mean, I think. I think Rome talking. His agent threatened all teams in the top five not to draft him, that he would not report.
[00:34:04] Speaker A: He was trying to get him to Washington, which. Why would you want to go there? Or Charlotte, I think.
[00:34:10] Speaker C: Two interesting teams that haven't done anything.
[00:34:12] Speaker A: In exactly 20 years. Yeah, no bad agent. So he has a lot to make up for it. It's been like a bad social media round for him.
But after that, though, Colin Coward drafted.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw that.
[00:34:28] Speaker C: The herd.
[00:34:29] Speaker B: The herd is, you know, he's like you said, he made a big impression in Portland back in his old radio days that they drafted him here in the first round at the 11th pick.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Six, seven, eight, nine, ten picks are traded.
[00:34:47] Speaker C: Okay, Aaron, our, our bulls at 12.
We're just taking just the other the guys from France. We don't, we don't get a Wemby, so we get somebody else.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: The only good thing I heard about him is that that he reminded him skill set wise of Siakam. So that's, that's what I'm taking. Like let's see what he can develop.
But that was, that was kind of.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: It's a reach.
[00:35:13] Speaker B: Yeah, the Bulls have just been reaching for a while now. I don't know why they haven't called me and Jason, get in the front office. We're ready, we're here to deliver. We could definitely do a better job. That's been done there, that's for sure.
[00:35:23] Speaker A: What'd you guys think of Brooklyn Nets taking five guards in the first round? Didn't trade anything out. Everyone thought they were going to be make some deals, pass along the bucket. But now they kept all five picks and drafted all guards except Danny Wolf out of Michigan who's a baller. I really like him.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: You know, Rome, I think, I think when we talked Friday, I said I didn't like their draft.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: I don't remember anymore.
[00:35:46] Speaker B: Okay, maybe that was Thursday. I don't remember what day it was.
[00:35:50] Speaker C: It's funny because two things were coming to mind when I was going on this. Like one, I was talking to some of my other friends prior that are big basketball guys. I'm like, five first round picks is like you gotta trade them. Right. You only get 12 guys playing and I got five late first round picks in a draft that all those rookie contracts. Yeah, well, I mean at the end of the day it's like, okay, cool. Like, you know, why do I need this many this year? I should bundle in the assets and get one, you know, bigger name player go up. And then I was thinking about was it the Timberwolves back in the day where they drafted like five point guards in the first round or whatever like that when they got like Johnny Flynn or whatever.
[00:36:26] Speaker B: Yeah. In the first round. Yeah.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: And that was controversy.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: Yeah, well that's, well, speaking of guys that are doing that, that's kind of what New Orleans is doing. Like I like, like I said, I like drafting fears, but why trade for Jordan Pool? It's the same player.
Like, why would you waste money on Jordan Pool, I mean, fears is going to be better than pool.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: Who else just went to the Pelicans?
So reunion with pool? I. I saw something.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that was something early on in the trade. NBA free. Just. I don't remember off the top of my head, but yeah, somebody else went there.
[00:37:00] Speaker A: Let me look it up for you.
Yeah, so they.
Brooklyn. I actually just picked like a whole bunch of ballers, but like half. Most of them are international.
Work in progress. Maybe like, like Danny Wolf's a good pickup. Three of the guys, three of the guards have similar sets.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: I like Danny. I like Danny Wolf. Rome.
I like the kid out of byu.
I would have liked to seen if he had dropped the Bulls to pick him up. I like, I liked him.
And then it looks like they took a couple.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Well, he dropped international guys.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I thought they had an okay draft. We'll see. We'll see what Brooklyn does.
[00:37:50] Speaker A: I like the second round Lakers making some moves with the new owner. Had some cash to throw around.
They moved up that basically made it made the second apron a hard cap for them this year. But they moved up 20 spots to someone that could potentially fit really nice with Luca. So that's about all we've done so far.
That's it.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah. They got a big guy out of Australia.
I mean the Bulls, they got a 7 foot 3 guy out of Australia.
So I mean they went international, the Bulls on this draft.
So.
[00:38:27] Speaker A: Nice, mate.
Nice.
That's my Australian accent.
[00:38:32] Speaker C: It's not bad.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: Rome. It's not bad.
Save that for the comedy show.
But yeah, honestly, not bad. I mean, I guess the biggest stretch, I think we was the guy out of China, Yang Janssen, going in the first round to Portland. He was projected. He was projected mid second round.
[00:38:59] Speaker A: I do remember us talking about that.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: You called them. You said he was being referred to as the Chinese Jokic.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the rumor.
That's the rumor. That's all I got though, is that.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: Are those highlights in HD or standard definition? I just want to know.
They haven't been sent to me yet.
[00:39:21] Speaker A: I haven't seen any highlights.
Not good draft. This is like one of the deeper ones. Next year supposed to be even deeper. So we have like a couple years, like good talent coming to the NBA and just seemed like everyone's just trading all their picks, man. Like nobody wants anything. You know what? I wish the NBA would just like hold off on the draft. So like if they know the pick got traded, why have that guy take a picture in that hat with the team that they Just got drafted by. If they know that, they just.
[00:39:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: Within two years to do that.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: Right. They didn't used to do that. Used to give you the traded team hat, right?
[00:39:55] Speaker A: Nope. Kobe still. Even though he got traded, Kobe still had the Charlotte Hornets.
And then he took one, like, 30 minutes later with the Lakers gear.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: But was he. But. But was he traded before the draft pick got in or after? I don't remember. Okay. Because I always thought I'd see these guys with the new hat after they got traded. So I thought they would basically be like, oh, hey, you got traded. Here's your new hat.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: I just don't understand it.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: It's stupid. Yeah, I agree.
[00:40:21] Speaker A: I don't understand it.
And half these guys have froze now. They're, like, trying to fit, like, an awkward cap on top, smiling. Oh, no. It just bugs me.
[00:40:31] Speaker B: And I want to know who the. Who's. Who dresses these guys. I didn't like the outfits, man. I thought the NHL draft, the guys dressed nice, clean. I liked what I saw in the suits. The NBA is just like, what are these guys doing?
[00:40:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
Aaron just wants the 2003 draft with LeBron and mellow where those guys were wearing, like, the giant oversized suits.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: Dude, I wore.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: That was made famous by Jordan, too, man.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I have, like, 10 suits I can't wear anymore because they're all, like, oversized, big shoulders.
I got a Sean John suit.
[00:41:03] Speaker C: Definitely can't wear that anymore.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: Well, he might be. He might be innocent. I don't know. We'll see. John.
[00:41:08] Speaker B: John P. Diddy. Two different guys, depending on who you ask. Two different personalities.
[00:41:12] Speaker A: Oh, Sean got someone's John. Yeah.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: Yeah. More than once.
[00:41:20] Speaker A: All right. We spent enough time on the NBA.
Real quick, though, before we go break, and then we'll come back and talk about everything else. Little F1 and stuff. Went to the Sparks game.
Took my daughters. Our first WNBA game. And I text my friend Michelle. I went to college with her, and I asked her, like, hey, I'm thinking about taking my daughter to the game. Should we go? And she's like, it's a perfect game on Sunday. It was Candace Parker's retirement jersey. They hung in the rafters.
Pretty cool. Big fanfare. She told me that they have, like, a DJ and, like, all the girls wear the makeup and all that stuff, so my daughter might like that. It was actually pretty exciting. The crowd was, like, pumped up, really engaged. And she said that, you know, it's really physical in the wnba. It kind of makes up for all the missed layups and missed shots. And I thought that was kind of funny because I could hear like Aaron, you know, talking about on the women's game, but God damn.
So many missed shots, open three pointers, everything but Angel Reese though, it was nice catching her in person. So polarizing.
Kind of built like, like, like, like an ostrich. Like, she's just tall, like thick legs and just like gallops up and down the floor. Apparently she had a good game because she actually made her layups. It was pretty exciting.
Sparks got their ass kicked though. Like, they came back in the third quarter and they got ran off the court, you know, by the fourth. But it was fun. Highly recommend going to a W. A NBA game. It's actually the. One of the most physical games I've seen in person. Remind me like 70. Obviously we weren't around for the 70s 80s game, but just from what I've seen from tapes, really aggressive. They didn't call fouls for. These refs are terrible for the wnba. They will let they. They call the weirdest fouls at the weirdest times. It is so frustrating. I was like, oh my God. But at least they let him play. Got feisty. Almost saw two fights break out. It was great. It was really enticing. My daughter really liked the fighting part. She's like, oh, you know, so pretty sure that tracks.
[00:43:23] Speaker C: When we were, you know, the early editions of the POD last year, we were talking about the WNBA finals and the lack of shots in that final game when it was like the two best teams going out, but also the officiating at that point, because I think at that point, you know, that was some of the, it was some of the most watched games at that point. And I think that's where I got really, you know, national attention, where you're getting a couple million people watching this versus probably these regular season games that don't get as many of, you know, casual fans watching it. And so I think it just probably goes to show for you going to this game and you kind of see a little bit of the same thing. You know, I mean, we complain about refs for football, everything.
But when you think about, like to get good refs in the, in the, in the, you know, billion dollar NFL, billion dollar NBA that they have and they get, they get the quote unquote, best of the best. You can only imagine, given what, you know, these women make in the wnba, what you're with, you're paying the reps in this and the type of candidates you're getting.
[00:44:23] Speaker A: That's good point.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: WNBA is probably making less than 50k a year.
[00:44:26] Speaker A: You know what? I'm convinced that the better basketball is played in women's college basketball because it looks so much more finesse and a lot more shot making. I don't know why. But the wnba, though, it was some rough stretches, man. It was a lot of bricks growing up. Layups, for some reason. No one can make layups.
[00:44:45] Speaker B: You brought up. You, Jason brought up. And he just refreshed in my head, that highlight last year, like, was it three minutes where it says breakfast after breakfast after breakfast, which happens? And you know, it's.
That's, you know, if you watch that many bricks as a referee, you're going to be dumber watching that type of basketball. So you're going to miss a good game when it's there. That's just the bottom line. And so I'm going to give them. I'm going to give him a pass if that's what's going on out there.
[00:45:09] Speaker C: I think. And Aaron, you said 50,000. I think they're making way less than that because I think the MW NBA contract's only like 40,000 or something like that when they're talking about that for the players.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: So it's hard to get motivated making that kind of money.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: Man, oh, man.
[00:45:24] Speaker B: I mean, they might just. They just might just pull these guys out of the rec league.
Hey, you got a good run in the rec league. Here you go.
So. And in the rec league, depending on where you go, some guys call finger foul. Some guys you gotta. You gotta be bleeding to get a foul call. So maybe that's why you get a little mixed referees going on there.
[00:45:40] Speaker A: Yeah, no, they let him play, man. It was pretty scrappy. So I'll definitely go again. Take my daughter.
I don't know if I want her being a Sparks fan though. I don't know. Kind of torn on that one.
The Sparks or Valkyries? We'll see if I can afford a ticket there because they're blowing up up here.
[00:45:55] Speaker B: Is she a Warriors fan?
[00:45:57] Speaker A: No, Lakers.
[00:45:58] Speaker B: Lakers, yeah. Okay, so she'll probably be Sparks then.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel bad because I converted her, you know, to like only root for LA team. She's not from la, she's from San Francisco. I mean, maybe I can get her at least a root for the Valkyries. So have one home team.
[00:46:16] Speaker C: Is she a Sharks fan?
[00:46:18] Speaker A: She did like the Sharks.
I guess she could root for the Sharks.
Why not? All right, take a quick break, come back F1 and the Aussie Grampy.
All right, we are back to talk a little F1 Austrian Grand Prix. My guy Lando Norris picks up a much needed victory after that big fuck up at the Canadian Grand Prix. Lost some much needed points but picks up the win. Piastri in second place. LeClaire picks up third. Your boy Hamilton, was this his best place of the season of of the year? I think at number four. Just missing podium but not missing podium. There's still 10 second difference I guess. And then George Russell rounding out the top five.
I heard it was a really hot race and there was some drama. But Jason, how did Norris plot this victory man?
[00:47:19] Speaker C: Yeah, Norris won it really on Saturday with qualifying and I think we talked about this throughout the year. It between Norris and Piastri as we go down the stretch here. It's really gonna, you know, highlight on the Saturday on who qualifies better. And just like a couple weeks prior, you know, when Norris won in Monaco, you know the qualifying thing got it done. There was some drama there I think between Norris and Piastri. Pastry was like right behind him for a good portion of early on in.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: The race and probably what the first 20 laps there?
[00:47:54] Speaker C: Yeah, he was staying with them. It would to a point where Norris was concerned. Basically he was using a lot of the tire grip because this turned into a two stopper and the tire tires are wearing pretty quickly with this heat wave out in Europe.
But I mean overall I think Norris securing that, you know, good qualifying position on Saturday. He had a great start which was kind of the bugaboo about Norris last season when he was kind of dueling with her staff and is that he just had terrible starts. So he got the good start, had the lead, protected it. Piastri was a threat as Aaron mentioned early in the first 20 laps or so and he was able to hold him back.
And then once the pit stop starts cycling through, Lando was able to have you know, a pretty significant lead for that. So the drama you talked about really was Verstappen going out on lap one for the 18 year old Prodigy Kimi Antonelli after getting the podium in Canada just kind of misjudged his breaking going into I believe it was turn three and just went banzai into a corner and overshot the breaking area and just T boned Verstappen in the side and took Verstappen out.
So that was kind of quite drama for all the Verstappen haters but was not great for team Red Bull. The Austrian Grand Prix is also known Rome as the Red Bull ring. This is the red, this is Red Bull's home race in Austria. So you had Verstappen going out early and then your boy Yuki Sonoda just continuing to be terrible in the second Red Bull.
[00:49:29] Speaker B: It's, it's, it's that second car, man. I don't know necessarily. Driver, whoever gets in there is, they are in trouble.
[00:49:36] Speaker C: So overall it was a weekend to forget for Red Bull. Verstappen goes out early.
You know, he, I think he was pretty much indifferent to it. I don't, I'm not saying Verstappen's giving up by any means, but I think he knows he's not winning a fifth consecutive world championship. This is a two man battle between Norris and Piastri and so I don't think it meant much to him that he was out was what it was. Antonelli was pretty apologetic to Verstappen right away that the Gump, he f that one up. Just, just couldn't stop himself going into the turn. Kind of misjudged his breaking area as it was kind of a tight pack going into that turn.
[00:50:11] Speaker B: So Question, question for you, Jason. I mean we've talked about, you know, the opt outs that Verstappen has. Are these guys teammates next year with Mercedes.
[00:50:21] Speaker C: So there, there's a conspiracy theory that, that Toto Wolf ordered the code red for Antonelli, that if Verstappen gets some less points that they could be going for an op. The opt out clause, that if his performance is as good, there's, there. I don't know if that's true or not, but there's a lot of rumors to that. George Russell right now does not have a contract next year. Verstappen is under contract from Red Bull, but there are some opt out clauses on there. And Toto Wolff long has had regret about not signing a young Max Verstappen and it's kind of been the guy that he has wanted to get. So if he's able to team up for Stappen and Antonelli long term, you have pretty much what is considered the best driver in the world right now in Verstappen. And then the next prodigy right behind him. That is a very good one, two punch.
It's intriguing. I am pretty sure Verstappen is holding Red Bull's feet to the fire because this Red Bull car, while so dominant the past couple years, when things are riding high, this car has got bad really quickly and they've really had the brain drain of all of kind of the brain train.
Yeah, I mean just talking about like all the you know, just like in the NFL, you know, you win the super bowl, everyone starts taking your offensive coordinate defensive coordinators. There's a bunch of people from Red Bull, Adrian Newey, most notably one of the geniuses when it comes to, you know, car design and body mechanics and aerodynamics and stuff. He went to Aston Martin. You had some other guys go to team Print. I forgot his name. Go team Principal. I think I've kicked Cyber was going to be the Audi team. And so you've had people leave team Red Bull in the past couple years. Especially the controversy we talked about with team principal Christian Horner. There was a lot of uneasiness around that controversy last year and he has stayed in power.
So I don't know Red Bull's positioning as we go into the 2026 regulations. Are they going to have a competitive car? And yeah, to your point, Aaron, I think it's very intriguing that Russell hasn't signed a contract and if Total Wolf's really waiting for the last possible minute, can I get Verstappen? Because those rumors have continued to be out there.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: I mean George Russell even brought it up. You know, he's, he's brought it up that he's not earned a contract. He's brought it up. Like you mentioned, Verstappen's always been kind of a dream.
And then right off the bat there's a collision. Originally the, the announcers were like oh, Russell and Verstappen collide and they're like oh wait, wait, that's Kimmy Antonelli. That's. That's our bad on that one. Which would have really been a lot of drama had it been Russell and versus that would have really been something to see. Getting those two guys getting out of the car at that time, that would have been thing.
[00:52:54] Speaker C: I can probably guarantee you one thing is that if they do get Verstappen, it's not going to be Verstappen Russell. So it's it. No, I think Antonelli's got the seat and he will be the, the future of Mercedes for, for quite a long time. It'll be does Toto is totally able to get Verstappen and you know his Russell there. I, I just don't know. I don't know the contracts and everything like that. I think it's going to be tougher Verstappen to get out of his Red Bull contract next year and I don't know if they're going to be able to make it work. People have long said that if first happen does Leave Red Bull. Aston Martin is the team that it would be because Adrian Newey from Red Bull had gone there. And Aston Martin is also switching to the Honda engines next year because Honda's leaving Red Bull. So I think that's potentially the possibility. I don't put it past Total Wolf though.
I think the man generally gets what he wants in a lot of particulars. So I think it's very intriguing if he was to get Verstappen as he's not signed Russell yet because. So we'll find a lot probably in the next month.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: What, what are your odds that Verstappen's back with Red Bull next year right now? Because I think he's, I think if things continue to go south like you mentioned, he's not the nicest and friendliest guys that with the media that I think he could kind of cause some scenes problems behind scenes that kind of forces Red Bull to quote unquote, let him out of this contract, whatever those opt out clauses are. And I could see him stepping away. I, I'd say it's probably 50, 50, to be honest.
[00:54:22] Speaker C: There's a lot of people and I, I kind of agree with this with the 2026 regulation.
Does he stay with Red Bull, knows what he has and able to evaluate based on which constructor next year comes out of the gate hot.
And then in 2027, okay, cool. Mercedes is great or McLaren is great or Aston Martin's great. Okay. I'm putting myself on the market and I want to be with X team. There's a lot of people that think that I, I think it's a very limited field of who Verstappen would actually go to because some people think, hey, he's just going to retire.
A lot of people think Verstappen is more into E racing and doing the simulator stuff online.
[00:55:05] Speaker B: He just had his first kid here recently too. So.
[00:55:07] Speaker C: Yeah, so there's been talk about that too where it's like, hey, he's great at it, but does he love it? Love it? Like he's great at it, but does he want to continue doing this and do 24 weekends of the year? So I think he is back with Red Bull next year.
I, I would, I would put the odds probably higher in that.
But I think Mercedes, I think they, they're the long shot. I think the Z, I think the only thing he's leaving is going to be for Mercedes. If you're going to say, what's 2026 if he leaves, I, I'd agree with that.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, touching on the race. Lando Norris obviously qualified first. That was big for him.
Oscar Piastri pinning a lot of pressure on him. I think he even passed him like lap 18, Jason. And then like they're back and forth. Drs and Lando basically with the Drs overstepped him and then got the pit first. And that kind of ended up, you know, him holding off and winning that race. But I thought it was a good race by Piastri. He didn't want to make a mistake like Lando did in Canada.
Hey, get second place, be comfortable. Vic, get your points. You're looking good for that championship. And I thought it was a well run race by him.
What's going on with these formation laps, Jason? I don't think I've seen it. So many car failures during these formation laps and crashes and all this stuff that's going on. I mean, we're not even.
Not even before the race gets started. Carlos Science can't even get out of the, out of gear. And then he finally gets going and then the brakes light on fire. I mean, that's 15 minutes.
[00:56:32] Speaker C: It was.
[00:56:33] Speaker B: I mean, I could have slept another 20 minutes if I knew this was gonna happen.
[00:56:37] Speaker C: You're not, you're not wrong with that. The, the funnier part about this and you. And I don't know if Rome's gonna let me do my Formula one movie review at this time, but hilarious for me watching the Formula one movie on Friday and then Sunday morning, this happens in the movie. Brad Pitt's character literally like fake doesn't start the car at the start of the formation lap. And then right before they go to penalize him, he starts it and gets off. And so he basically dragged the whole field. So his tire, the storyline was his tires were warmer and everyone's went cold because they were waiting at the start finish line. So literally there was a bunch of stuff on Twitter is like, Carlos Signs is trying the sunny haze right now.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: That's until his brakes lit on fire. And they had like 20 guys out there.
[00:57:24] Speaker A: Crazy.
[00:57:25] Speaker B: That was funny.
[00:57:26] Speaker C: It was funny. Yeah, I, I don't know. There's some weird things going on. Williams, I'll tell you, as good as they are this year and the impressive start like there is wild that goes on with Williams sometimes.
[00:57:37] Speaker B: Dude, did we jinx. Did we jinx Williams? Because this. I, I swore we were talking so great about him. Now they can't even finish a race.
[00:57:45] Speaker C: I don't think we did. I still think, I still think they got the fifth Best car in the field. I, I just, I just, I just think there's some chance stuff that they have there but they definitely, they definitely are hit or miss on a weekend but I think they're still good enough to score a you know, fifth place or seventh place or a 10, eighth, ninth place to get some points up there. But yeah they, when they, when it goes bad it goes really bad for Williams.
[00:58:07] Speaker B: It goes bad man.
It goes bad. It goes bad quick too.
[00:58:12] Speaker A: What's up with Lawson man? He had a good race.
[00:58:16] Speaker C: Have a good race. A good qualifying effort too. So yeah, his best showing of the year. It was, it was crazy. We're talking about how good the racing bulls were ever because I, because I lost an out qualified Verstappen in that race. There was some things went on in qualifying for the reasons for that but, but still lost in out qualified Verstappen was the best I guess of the team Red Bull, both the main team and the junior team. So yeah, his best race you had Gabriel Bortoletto and the kick. Sauber had his best finishes of his career. The rookie, The Formula Formula 2 champ got an eighth. He was batting battling with two time champion Fernando Alonso in the last map who's also his agent by the way, which is pretty funny. And then Nico Hulkenberg the other kick Saber finishing ninth. So it's good to see out of that team considering how terrible they were last year. Didn't score a point when they had Joe Blanu and Valtteri Botas last year they, they were just dead last every race. So they've a little more competitive. Interesting to see for this team that's going to be turned into Audi next year as they have a pretty decent driver lineup that's been fairly competitive here in the mid part of the field. So the, the constructors race I think is heating up there between the racing bulls Haas Aston Martin Kick Saber like six through nine. I think you're gonna have a heck of a battle here, you know for the constructors throughout the rest of the year.
[00:59:35] Speaker A: I'm trying to pull up the rankings.
[00:59:36] Speaker C: Right now but yeah, overall good race. I, I do, I like the Red Bull ring as a track, it's a short track. You saw lap traffic get into it very, very quickly into the race.
But yeah, you mentioned Lewis Hamilton.
Best, best finish he's had in a Ferrari besides that sprint win he had in China early on. The Ferrari car still it's, it's a step off.
[01:00:04] Speaker B: It's, it seems like it's turned the corner A little bit. I mean, they've been getting on the podium a few times here. Like, you know, Charles has been racing a lot better. Was it second or third podium this year?
[01:00:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, when you look at. I mean, they are second in the constructors right now, barely edgering out Mercedes. So they.
[01:00:21] Speaker A: That's amazing because Mercedes has had a great year and Ferrari has not got anything.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: Well, Kimmy. Kimmy's really kind of hurt. Mercedes not finishing a couple races here. I mean, he did finish on the podium in Canada, but he's not finished a couple of these ones.
[01:00:34] Speaker C: Yeah, two of them weren't his fault, though, the engine.
But. But yeah, I mean, there's. They're that. But I mean, Ferrari, as bad as we've said, we just expected them to complete with McLaren. And I think that's where Ferrari's bad stuff is coming from, because you looked a year ago, they were completing competing with McLaren in the last race of the year for the constructors. But they're so off at this point. But they've. They've been in points. They just haven't been competing for wins. I still think it's far enough away because if you looked into that race, Charles and Lewis were basically in islands by themselves. Like, they were like 10. 10 seconds behind, but also then 10 seconds ahead. Like, they were just out there, just in a cruise. They weren't gonna get past and they weren't gonna pass anyone.
[01:01:13] Speaker A: Looks like. Yeah, the 10 second and another 40 second gap.
[01:01:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, they were. Yeah, like Jason said, they were just cruising around, man.
Nothing. Nothing to pass, nothing to catch up to. But yeah, I think Ferrari is.
Like you said, they're second right now. Like, they're racing better.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Quick question. How many points would Norris would have gotten if he would have finished the. The Canadian race last week or two weeks ago? Because he would have got fourth. Right.
[01:01:42] Speaker B: Presumably 10 or 12. Right. Or eight. Something around that.
[01:01:45] Speaker C: Finished fourth. He would have got 12th. I don't know if he was fourth or fifth, but he would have got. I mean, he would have been like.
[01:01:50] Speaker A: He was fourth.
[01:01:52] Speaker B: What is he. Street finished third or fourth.
[01:01:55] Speaker C: He actually finished fourth. So.
[01:01:57] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, it would have been fifth if fifth.
[01:01:59] Speaker C: So. So he would have gotten 10 points. Yeah.
[01:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:03] Speaker A: Damn.
They would only be separated by five points right now if he didn't.
[01:02:07] Speaker B: So, I mean, we could be looking at the end of the year when it comes down to it, that one stupid incident could be what cost Norris the championship.
[01:02:15] Speaker C: And that's. And that's what it was Ron, I know you've been critical of me of being tough on Lando, but, like, I. I want. I want to see Lando win it this year. Like, I said this. He. He was.
[01:02:24] Speaker B: You guys. You guys can't. Lando, I. I want.
[01:02:27] Speaker C: If you're asking for.
[01:02:28] Speaker B: I want Oscar to win it. So, you know, you guys, I want.
[01:02:31] Speaker C: Lando, because before last year, this was the guy who, like, hey, he was the one coming up but couldn't win a race because he's in the era of Verstappen. And I told you, he won his first race Rome. You mocked me for it, but we were. We were at the Dodger game, watching on my phone. That was his first career win last year in Miami, and he's gone on to win a bunch of races since. But Oscars come on at the same time. So I think lando was with McLaren through all those down years when this car was actually crap, when he was with Daniel Ricardo as his teammate. And then, you know, now it's riding high, and he's got it competing with Oscar. I mean, I think there. I think there's some. There's some sympathy and heart to. To Lando, like, you know, he. He's the favorite, I think, of Zach Brown, McLaren CEO, if you want it, because that's his guy. He basically brought him all the way through.
And Oscar is just.
Oscar's just got that, you know, Verstappen like, personality, where it's kind of just like he's. He's a killer inside.
But I think. I think Oscar's probably the favorite. But if you go for the heart of where, like, Formula one fans and stuff, I think they see Lando being his time, but he can't. He can't make the mistakes like he made in Canada, because these are the examples where Piastri is going to be right behind you. So, I mean, it's going to be, again, the Saturday qualifying. Lando's got to do the job. He does the job. He gets ahead. He gets priority in pit. I mean, even though there's a deficit there, you're talking about every time you win, you're seven points ahead. Hey, two races from now, you could be taking over the lead, depending where things are at.
[01:03:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I. I agree. I think if Lando. I think every race, Lando's one P1 in qualifying, he's won, as far as I can remember, off the top of my head. And I agree, I think, with what Jason said, I think McLaren basically favors Lando more than they do Oscar, like, they. I think they want him to win. He's more like their guy.
But Oscar's just so focused, so smart.
Didn't make the stupid mistakes like he. Like Lando did. Like I said, he was neck and neck. They almost could have crashed again here those first 20 laps. I mean, he was putting pressure on him. Gave him a run for his money. Then, you know, hey, I'll settle in. I'll take second. I'll take my 18 points.
I'll cruise in and then see how the rest were. That was the 12th race this year, so we're basically halfway done, I think.
[01:04:41] Speaker A: Who's your team Aaron that I'm.
[01:04:44] Speaker B: That I root for?
[01:04:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:47] Speaker B: I mean, I like Oscar.
I like. I like. I like team Williams as well.
So I like George Russell, too.
So I'm like. I'm like Rome. Let me put it this way. I'm like. You have your sports teams where you have, like, 20 different teams.
I got, like, 12 drivers I like and root for.
[01:05:06] Speaker C: Listen, at the end of the day, you know, get you guys onto the sport. You know, we're rooting for the sport of F1 at this point, you know, making it more popular.
[01:05:13] Speaker A: Well, I think we should each get like, a neon light for, like, the background for future podcasts. So we each have our own team light. I'll get orange.
Jason could get red since he's now Ferrari.
And I was. I was trying to figure out what. What you were, Aaron.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: I'll get team Williams. Was that blue?
[01:05:30] Speaker C: Yeah, A little blue.
[01:05:31] Speaker B: Yeah. There you go.
Red, blue, and orange.
[01:05:35] Speaker C: It's tough for me, Rome. I got all this Mercedes gear, you know, everything that from Lewis. I mean, at the same time, you know, Mercedes is going to hold a. In the heart. You know, you're only rooting Ferrari with for Lewis, so.
[01:05:45] Speaker A: Well, what color do you want to do for Mercedes? Black.
[01:05:48] Speaker C: Yeah, black. Black light, you know, little black light over here. I mean, I do that.
[01:05:52] Speaker B: Just turn off the lights, Jason.
[01:05:53] Speaker C: Let me go over here.
[01:05:54] Speaker B: There you go. There it is. There it is.
[01:05:58] Speaker A: You know, it's a good thing You're. You're as wide as you are.
[01:06:01] Speaker C: You are.
[01:06:02] Speaker B: I can make him out a little bit.
[01:06:04] Speaker A: A little.
[01:06:04] Speaker B: Not too much.
[01:06:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
All right, tell us real quick in a few minutes, how's the F1 movie?
[01:06:11] Speaker C: F1 movie was great, man.
And I think we, you know, we're going. We haven't started the movie podcasts yet, but beyond it just being Formula one, I mean, being biased towards. Towards liking, you know, Formula one as a sport and Loving racing movies, honestly, because racing movies, kind of like boxing movies, have like that inherent drama that goes with it. But the filmmaker, filmmakers of this were the, from the guy who did Top Gun Maverick. And so when it came to the action of the movie and being in kind of the cockpit of a Formula one car and then just sound and music and just experience of going to the movie, like, this is what, like a summer blockbuster movie. Like, when we think back, like, to our childhood in the 90s and the type of stuff you get, like this was that type of movie. Hey, the theater shaken, because you can feel, you can feel the cars going through. You're on board with, you know, the Apex GP team that's in there and, you know, the ending duel scene with Brad Pitt versus Lewis Hamilton and, and what's going on? Like, there's just, there's just so much just wrong for the feels of the ride and the movie experience. You know, I'm a big theater guy, like, going to the movie theater and having that movie experience, and that's where it's at. And then part of the realness of this, because, you know, I, There was, this wasn't a CGI fest movie that, like, modern people are critical of. Like, hey, they had real cars that were out there racing and did this stuff together.
[01:07:34] Speaker A: Critical. That wasn't cgi.
[01:07:35] Speaker C: No, but I think people are, People are very critical of modern movies that are just too much cgi.
[01:07:41] Speaker A: So if you go, oh, yeah, if.
[01:07:42] Speaker C: You go to, if you go to a Marvel movie, which I love, but like, you know, Marvel movies over time got way more CGI focus versus some of the early ones that were just made more practical effects. And this Formula one movie was like, hey, they use real cars that were racing around to do these scenes and stuff. And there's just like, for Top Gun Maverick, hey, they had real jets and all these stuff. And you know, everything Tom Cruise does in Mission Impossible movies that gives, like, the scale to that realism. So, so when it came to that from a theatrical and just experience, did.
[01:08:10] Speaker B: You, did you watch the Mission? New Mission Impossible?
[01:08:12] Speaker C: Jason, you know, I was there opening weekend, man.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: Come on.
[01:08:15] Speaker B: All right, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw a question at you right now. I want your honest answer. Okay, what's better, F1 or the new Mission Impossible?
[01:08:25] Speaker A: Any Mission Impossibles, by the way?
[01:08:26] Speaker B: Yeah, you already mentioned that. Rome. So, I mean, I, I, you should basically, as soon as you get off this pod room, don't even hit the edit button, put on Mission Impossible. The first one to get going on that because you'll watch that.
[01:08:37] Speaker A: Was it on?
[01:08:38] Speaker B: I don't know.
[01:08:40] Speaker C: Paramount. Plus plus plus plus I got them all. Aaron, to answer your question, I love the Mission Impossible franchises but I will say the final reckoning, which is the last one, was not as good as some of the recent ones over the last decade. I would say the F1 movie was better.
[01:09:00] Speaker B: I'll have to, I have to check those both out.
[01:09:03] Speaker C: So when it came to the script and the story of it, I think there was some predictability to kind of what it, what it was. I'll say that for a racing movie and then if you're an F1 fan, I will say the criticism coming from this. I know Rome said some people, whatever. If you're an F1 fan and you're like an F1 purist, you're going to be critical of the things of, of racing strategy and things you're doing in there from a, from a racing perspective. Some of the stuff is this, this wouldn't happen in like real F1. So that, that would be like some of the critiques on there.
[01:09:35] Speaker B: So.
[01:09:35] Speaker C: But overall, great movie, great theater experience.
Highly recommend the Movie.
[01:09:42] Speaker A: Brad Pitt F1. Where's his rank in his all time list of movies?
Does it crack the top five?
[01:09:50] Speaker B: Oh.
[01:09:53] Speaker A: Well.
[01:09:55] Speaker C: Trying to think of the great Barad put movies. You got to think, oh, the Ocean series, but probably ocean. Ocean's 11.
[01:10:04] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:10:05] Speaker C: 7. Personal favorite of mine.
[01:10:08] Speaker B: That's a good. What's in the box? What's in the box?
[01:10:10] Speaker C: What's in the box?
[01:10:11] Speaker B: That's a good one.
[01:10:13] Speaker A: What's in the box?
[01:10:15] Speaker B: You haven't seen the movie screen.
[01:10:17] Speaker C: You haven't seen seven.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: It's been a while. It's been a while.
[01:10:20] Speaker B: Watch that one. Spoiler alert.
[01:10:21] Speaker C: It was Gwyneth Paltrow's head.
[01:10:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:10:24] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:10:27] Speaker C: Moneyball I would say is a top five Brad Pitt movie. That is out there as well.
[01:10:34] Speaker B: What about you? Like, did you like. Was it World War Z?
[01:10:38] Speaker C: World War.
[01:10:39] Speaker A: That's a really good one.
[01:10:41] Speaker C: Great movie. I don't know if I put it in my top five, but I do.
[01:10:44] Speaker B: Let me look at Brad Pitt's movies here.
[01:10:46] Speaker A: Pulling right now.
[01:10:48] Speaker B: Let me see.
[01:10:49] Speaker C: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Formula one movie is a top five Brad Pit movie. Once upon a time in Hollywood people say that one Tarantino movie.
[01:10:57] Speaker B: It's not, I haven't watched that one. I'm not gonna lie.
[01:11:00] Speaker C: Tarantino movies. But I know people do particularly like that movie.
Yeah. I'll say it's a top five for me. Brad, pit movie.
[01:11:10] Speaker B: All right, let's see. Let me see what Brad Pitt's got going on here.
Start back at his early days.
[01:11:18] Speaker A: Well, Thelma and Louise is what really broke him out. That was in 91.
[01:11:23] Speaker C: Yep.
Fight Club.
[01:11:26] Speaker B: Fight Club.
[01:11:27] Speaker C: I think you got to put Fight Club in there.
[01:11:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so.
[01:11:29] Speaker A: He plays a good, neurotic person.
[01:11:32] Speaker B: 7:12.
This is not like. I didn't really. The Movie's okay, but 12 Monkeys isn't bad.
[01:11:40] Speaker C: Not bad. 12 Monkeys in Bad Snatch. He's getting snatched, too. I like that movie, but I wouldn't put that top five.
[01:11:46] Speaker B: Snatch. Yeah.
[01:11:48] Speaker A: Honestly, that might be top five for me.
[01:11:50] Speaker C: Okay.
[01:11:50] Speaker B: Snatch is a good movie.
[01:11:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
Ocean 11, definitely in there.
[01:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: I've never watched Troy because I'm not gonna watch it.
[01:12:00] Speaker B: I haven't tried. I might have seen it, but I look bad.
[01:12:04] Speaker C: I don't have you guys watching Glorious Bastards.
Ah, man.
[01:12:08] Speaker A: Good.
[01:12:08] Speaker C: It might be the better Tarantino movie.
[01:12:11] Speaker B: Okay.
You got Moneyball killing softly. Okay.
[01:12:17] Speaker A: Was he the Departed?
[01:12:18] Speaker C: He's not produced.
[01:12:20] Speaker A: Oh, he's a producer.
[01:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:12:21] Speaker A: Okay. Never mind.
[01:12:22] Speaker B: Fury is really good movie. I like this movie a lot.
The Big Short. I think the Big Short's a good movie. It's a funny.
It's a good movie.
[01:12:30] Speaker C: Big Short is a great movie.
[01:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:12:32] Speaker C: I just don't put that as a Brad Pitt movie, because I think if there's so much ensemble in there.
[01:12:37] Speaker B: I agree.
But that's a good movie.
[01:12:40] Speaker C: I. I think there is a case for. The F1 movie is top five Brad Pitt of all time. I think there's a case for that.
[01:12:46] Speaker A: It's a case, huh?
[01:12:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:12:48] Speaker A: That's pretty tough to crack, that top five, actually.
[01:12:50] Speaker B: What about you guys? I. I thought the movie was kind of cheesy. It was okay. Bullet Train. Do you guys like that one?
[01:12:55] Speaker A: I haven't seen it.
[01:12:56] Speaker C: Bullet Train's really good. I do like Bullet Train.
[01:12:58] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. So I think. I think I'd have to see the F1, but I think it's probably got potential maybe to get there.
[01:13:02] Speaker A: That's a pod by itself.
Ranking Brad Pitt's top 10 movies.
[01:13:08] Speaker B: Yeah, but even a lot of the movies, you know, he may not even be the top guy. I mean, Ocean's thirteen, you could go, George Clooney is the main guy.
[01:13:16] Speaker A: I didn't like 13, so I like.
[01:13:19] Speaker C: 13, but I think 11's just does stay.
[01:13:21] Speaker B: Yeah, 11. 11.
[01:13:22] Speaker C: And I think. And I think 12 is underrated.
[01:13:25] Speaker A: 12 skipped. See, that's it. Man, real quick. NHL, we'll do a quick UFC.
Marshawn signs for six years extension with Florida.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: And Sam Bennett, eight years.
[01:13:36] Speaker A: 64 million is crazy, man.
[01:13:40] Speaker B: I mean, I thought the guys like was already 37. Now he's gonna play till he's 43.
[01:13:44] Speaker A: He is 37.
[01:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
So now he's signed till he's 43.
[01:13:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: I mean, he's a cheating son of a. But you gotta love him. That's your team.
[01:13:54] Speaker A: I kind of respect it, actually.
[01:13:56] Speaker B: Hey, they don't call it.
You got those WNBA officials on the ice.
[01:14:00] Speaker A: It looks like it's the way I would play, you know, so.
[01:14:03] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. Rome.
[01:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:05] Speaker B: Like you, you Rome, you'd be calling and one foul before the guy's like even two feet from you.
Yeah. You both be at the three point line.
[01:14:15] Speaker A: I, I play a little too physical. I. I broke one of my friends shoulder on accident playing basketball. That's the last time. No one, like, no one really wanted to play pickup with me after that to pick up basketball.
[01:14:26] Speaker B: Rome likes to swing a lot of elbows.
Yeah, he likes to bring those elbows through.
[01:14:31] Speaker A: He totally flipped and landed on the shoulder and broken and lost the scotch.
[01:14:34] Speaker B: The USA Romel like, undercut your. Like, if, like, it's a good thing us, for us white guys, we can't jump high. But he'll like, undercut you like the hip check.
Right? Like, so you basically like, like how Jimmy Butler, like in the playoffs went down legal. Like, that's, that's what Rome likes to like, undercut you and be like, oh, I'll just, you know, sliding my feet.
[01:14:53] Speaker A: All right, real quick. Ufc.
[01:14:55] Speaker B: All right. Yeah, let's get into it. Rome, your boy Bill Simmons was in attendance, as I mentioned, at UFC317 International Fight Week in Las Vegas.
[01:15:05] Speaker A: So your boy Jake Paul was fighting this weekend too.
[01:15:09] Speaker B: That's not my guy. I did not waste my time on that. Heard that was an uninspiring decision. Victory from all masses. I heard.
[01:15:18] Speaker A: I saw a.
A Tesla wrapped promoting the fight when I was down in SoCal on the way to the hotel.
[01:15:26] Speaker B: Okay, like, what?
The fight was at Honda Center. Yeah, Yeah. I didn't, I didn't even know the fight was going on until like, I got done watching UFC and then like I went to ESPN.com and they're like, oh, apart, dude.
[01:15:38] Speaker A: Everyone's like, what? He had a fight today. He's claiming that he's gonna be. He's a. He's a world champ. Like, get out of here, man.
[01:15:43] Speaker B: He's fighting Chavez Junior.
But yeah, I mean, back to ufc. I mean, I watched the prelim main event before the main pay per view card and Rome, you're gonna have to check this out, guys. You're gonna have to check out. You guys know Robocop, but do you know the Brazilian Robocop, That's Gregory Rodriguez with a knockout that you got to see, so you get the chance to pull that up. Robocop, Brazilian, crazy knock out there. I thought dude might have been in a coma. He was out for a while. The they were checking up on him. He got up, finally got out of the arena. Okay, but that, that was kind of a scary knockout if you, if you want to watch that one. Yeah.
Main card bantamweights, you have Peyton Talbot with a big win over Felipe Lima. That was actually really good, exciting fight.
Talbot's a kind of a young up and coming guy. He was 90 in the UFC coming off a loss, underdog in this fight. Three round decision, big win.
He looks like a guy that could be rising up through the rankings.
Felipe Lima looked pretty good too, more of a grappler, but that was an exciting decision fight. Dariush coming back from major injuries. He's been out two years. He beats McConnell with a decision victory.
Exciting second and third round. I mean he almost, Dariush almost got finished late there in the first round, bounces back, gets the decision, victory and his return. And then kind of the story of the night, one of them, Joshua Van, kind of a rookie to the games, only been training for five years, was the number 12 ranked guy coming into this fight, flyweight against the number one contender, Brandon Roval. And he pulls off the upset, gets a late, late knockdown, little ground and pound in round three to steal a decision. Now we'll get a title shot against the champion who was fought on the card. Gotta win himself. So Josh of a van, 23 years old, young kid. This is an up and comer name you want to keep an eye on in the ufc. Pulling out the victory against the number one contender three weeks notice. This guy just fought three weeks before this fight on a UFC card, so he cashed in big time in the flyweight title fight. You got Pantoja re retaining his belt with a win over Kai Kyra France. He submits him rear naked choke there in round three. Just overwhelmed them with the grappling wrestling, Brazilian jiu jitsu, and as I mentioned, Rome. Now he sets up to fight Joshua Van later on in this year. And in the main fight, the lightweight division, the former 145 pound champ. Moving up in weight, Ilia Tapuria knocks out Charles Oliveira in round one and becomes basically a two time champ. Or a guy to move up and become a two time champ, which has become pretty popular after Conor McGregor did it back a few years back, so.
[01:18:45] Speaker A: Quite a few years back. Yeah.
[01:18:47] Speaker B: Yeah. But 2018, maybe it was now, but yeah, I mean, Ilia with a big win.
Kind of some drama after the fight, calling out Patty the Baddie Patty. Yeah, so you might want to see that too.
[01:19:00] Speaker A: I did see that.
[01:19:01] Speaker B: These guys do not like each other.
[01:19:02] Speaker A: Wait, is. Is he the one that called him out previously?
[01:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah. So I guess there's a lot of bad blood going back a few years between these two.
Irish guy, the English guy? Yeah.
[01:19:16] Speaker A: Oh, because I saw a clip on IG where I don't know who he was, but he's like, oh, I'm glad he didn't listen to me that I called him out because this guy's dangerous. You know that he can fight at that weight.
[01:19:29] Speaker B: That's probably somebody different.
[01:19:31] Speaker A: Okay, so redhead fighter.
[01:19:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's gonna be somebody different.
[01:19:35] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:19:36] Speaker B: This guy's like blonde. You can type up Patty the Baddie. You pull him up.
[01:19:42] Speaker A: Weird name.
[01:19:43] Speaker B: What's his nickname? Patty the Bad. He's kind of looks. He's a bit of a, like.
Kind of like a dork out of the cage, but not. Not a dude you want to mess with in the cage. Jesus Christ.
[01:19:54] Speaker A: All right, so it's not the guy that I saw.
[01:19:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't think so.
[01:19:57] Speaker A: He wasn't a baddie.
[01:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah, he wasn't kissing no ass after this fight. So these two got some bad blood.
I don't know if Dana White's gonna make this match because the Patty the Baddies ranked number eight coming off a big win over. Yeah, that's him. Go, go. See, he does a dance move that's kind of like this.
And his last fight, he was actually braided. His hair was braided, so imagine.
So he's pretty.
Pretty entertaining.
[01:20:24] Speaker A: He just got done doing Austin Powers porn shoot, man.
[01:20:26] Speaker B: Yeah, he fits that more.
Yeah.
[01:20:30] Speaker A: The hell is this?
[01:20:31] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. Like I said, he's a bit of a dork, but he's not one guy to mess with in the cage. Rome, if you want to go watch his fight against Michael Chandler, I mean, he. He beat the. Out of Michael Chandler. Beat him up pretty bad. So him and Ilia have some beef. Oh, yeah. I'm seeing a little bit of highlights there, but search see if you can find the One against Michael Chandler. That was. That was his last big, good fight.
And these two, I know Jason probably knows, like, now that, you know, TKO bought the ufc, they're kind of bringing a lot more of that kind of WWE feel where guys kind of do standoffs after fights. When you call guys out to kind of like, hype up the next one, add to that drama.
So, you know, Ilia basically calling Patty out, calling him, among other things. And then, you know, Patty came in.
[01:21:25] Speaker A: The cage and, hey, it's a PG show, man.
[01:21:28] Speaker B: You know, I know, I know. He called him like a little sausage and all this kind of stuff. And then, you know, he called them a limp. And you can guess the rest part from there. And so, like, yeah, the buildup is there. We'll see if this fight goes down. Towards the end of the year, Dana White's kind of hinted he wants somebody else to get the title shot, and maybe Patty the baddie gets Justin Gai, which I think that's probably going to be the next fight.
But, yeah, I mean, exciting night for UFC action.
And we didn't talk about it last week, but I think it was last Sunday.
Jon Jones retiring from the ufc.
[01:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:22:02] Speaker B: So he's stepping away. Arguably the greatest UFC mixed martial artists in the history of the sport.
[01:22:09] Speaker A: I know everyone says that. I disagree.
[01:22:12] Speaker B: I do.
I would tend to agree with that, but I would disagree. But he's beaten some good guys, man. He's been, oh, yeah, guys.
And he's never lost, technically in the cage. I mean, I know he has one loss that was a DQ against a guy that he was just beating the out of. That should have been ruled to no contest.
I do think he lost the fight against Dominic Reyes back in, like, 2018, 16, whatever year that was.
[01:22:41] Speaker A: He lost a few fights that he got that fight.
[01:22:44] Speaker B: I think he lost the other ones. I think the decisions that he did win were good. I mean, he's been. He's been dodging Tom Aspinall for a while now. He decides to retire and he's got legal troubles again.
[01:22:54] Speaker A: A little hit and run action on him a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
[01:22:57] Speaker B: He's always getting into legal troubles. He's not. He's not. He's not a nice guy.
In and out of the cage, let's put it that way.
So he's officially done, it sounds like.
[01:23:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
To wrap up fighting in general, good news. Max Kellerman's back in boxing.
Netflix is bringing him around. Saw some clips. I'm excited because I was wondering, like, where Max Kellerman is One of my favorite guys to listen to anytime, any place.
He's back in boxing, so that's good for the sport.
Really happy he's going to be covering the Canelo fight in later this year.
[01:23:37] Speaker B: That's in September, right?
[01:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm excited for that one.
[01:23:40] Speaker B: I'll watch that one. I'll watch that boxing fight. I don't watch a lot of boxing now, but I'll watch that one.
[01:23:44] Speaker A: I'll definitely watch that one. Yeah, it's a big deal.
[01:23:46] Speaker C: The Canelo fights on Netflix.
[01:23:48] Speaker A: Yeah, Netflix is breaking into the world of sports.
[01:23:51] Speaker B: I think, I think Netflix, they already have WWE Raw. I think they're going to get UFC.
[01:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:23:57] Speaker B: UFC's contract of ESPN, ESPN plus is up at the end of the year, and I think, I think Netflix is a possibility to land.
[01:24:03] Speaker A: ESPN's been trying to renew it, trying to renegotiate, but Dana has been.
[01:24:07] Speaker B: No, yeah, I think Dana wants out, and I think it's either Netflix or Apple TV that's going to get them.
[01:24:13] Speaker A: I kind of like some of the UFC fights being on espn. Once in a while it's like, oh, it's on.
[01:24:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know. I, I don't know the business model for ESPN obviously, but I don't know because, I mean, there's a, there's a pay per view aspect to the model for UFC and at the same time when it comes to. And it gives them obviously, a lot of good programming from an ESPN perspective for all the undercard stuff they put on there. But depending what the offer is, I think Netflix can be. Can probably put more out than ESPN actually needs, because I, I'd question from a viewership, viewership aspect for UFC stuff. You know, it's, there's a niche audience to, to UFC to a degree, and it's a, it's, it's, it's a continuous kind of the same. And when you look at. And this is me, this is me speaking as a super casual UFC fan, don't watch a lot of it at all. I will say I've lost a ton of watching anything from. Of USC because they, they don't have stars like they used to. I mean, Aaron listed a bunch of guys, but I think the biggest thing when it comes to real fighting versus me when I'm giving my pro wrestling breakdown is like, once these guys go downhill, they go downhill fast and they can't keep up in this game. And so when you're talking about building new stars in a sport that is this promotion base that you need to attract stars on cards. You don't get a lot outside the growth of your kind of current, you know, crop of crop of people. So whether that fills in ESPN's lineup where we talk about the Dallas Cowboys all summer during training camp on Dak Prescott versus the UFC lineup, I think it's different what they're looking for.
[01:25:47] Speaker A: That's really interesting you said that because me and Aaron had this big argument last year about the demographics with like UFC and football and he thought that is the same people that watch him. Like, it's not dude, it.
[01:26:00] Speaker B: No, I said I'd be hard pressed if you find somebody that likes casually or not UFC in football. Like you'd like. You would like both.
Not like you're gonna be hardcore, but your average football fan would like like some form of boxing in UFC and vice versa.
And I mean, to Jason's point, I think there are stars in the ufc. The problem is they're not American stars.
I mean, you had Conor McGregor, who was the biggest thing Ireland you've now got. I mean the biggest UFC star ever was Jon Jones from an American standpoint. I mean, we just talked about Ilia. He's huge in Spain. I mean, if they went into Spain right now, they could sell an 80,000 seat arena and it would be the biggest thing outside of a soccer event in that country in a long time.
[01:26:53] Speaker A: There's been criticism about Dana not promoting the fighters the right way. It's kind of like the NBA's problem too. They're just, they haven't done a great job, I mean, in recent years.
[01:27:03] Speaker C: To Aaron's point, when you're talking internationally, I think that's the thing of the American versus international audience or you know, we, or Dana's looking at this, you know, taking this to different places that you don't know what you're going to get in other countries where you can sell at 80,000. If you again, Aaron's care and TKO for what WWE is doing. They're taking a ton of WWE's premium live events overseas to Europe and you know, and in different Australia and Saudi Arabia and stuff like that where there's massive stadiums are selling out for certain events because you know, those, those countries are hungry for this product and they have stars, you know, potentially in that too. So. So I could totally see that too. And with Netflix, to Aaron's point, like you are getting an international audience with Netflix because it's available in all these different countries that, you know, while Disney is, it isn't always as accessible as Netflix being The number one streamer in the world.
[01:27:57] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, the ufc, like I said, they've got. I mean, if you look at their champions and all their divisions, I mean, heavyweight you basically from, like, England.
Light heavyweight is your middleweight champs from basically South Africa.
You've got a lot of Brazilian guys. The women's division has Brazilian, Chinese. You've got the Spaniards. You know, the.
There's not a lot of big quote, unquote, like, American guys. I mean, Dustin Poirier, who's got a big fight coming up, is one of the more bigger names, but this is a retirement fight he's got coming up here in three weeks against Max Holloway, which would be a huge, huge fight.
And, I mean, the UFC's been.
You know, they do. Their hub is here in Vegas. It's the fight capital of the U.S.
but, you know, they do a ton of shows in Brazil, Canada.
They go all around the world. Australia, they're really big over there.
So. But, you know, it's. It's hard to, you know, promote a star here in America when there's really not that guy. And mixed martial arts has grown demographically from all around. Every country right now is bringing guys in. There's a lot of young stars coming. The game's getting. It's up and rising, and guys can get knocked off quick. I mean, I think the days of guys dominating for six or eight title defenses is really tough to come by. You're usually having a champ almost every 12 to 18 months, new champs in every division.
[01:29:30] Speaker C: Yeah. It's not the good old days when I used to go over Aaron's house and to watch Anderson the Spider Silva just knocking dudes off left and right for, you know, five years.
[01:29:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And he won, what, 14 straight fights? And he was a Brazilian.
[01:29:44] Speaker A: I just found my picture of Mandalay Silva, my autographed photo of his.
[01:29:51] Speaker B: I was going, wondering. Civil is a scary guy to meet in person.
[01:29:54] Speaker A: Dude, he was. It was crazy. Like, he's like, you're my size. Just like 100 pounds.
[01:29:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:29:59] Speaker A: So bulky. That was crazy.
[01:30:01] Speaker B: So, I mean, give. I mean, you talked about Dana. I think Dana White's done a good job. I mean, they got the Ultimate Fighter series.
He's got Dana White's Contender series. So I think he's done a great job of bringing talent in.
I mean, look at these.
[01:30:15] Speaker A: A lot of. Enough criticism.
[01:30:17] Speaker B: I mean, Dana White's always gotten criticism. That kind of comes with the territory. But, I mean, if you look at where that company is when he bought it with the Fertitta brothers for what, 2 million back in what, 20, 1998, whatever year it was. And TKO basically came in for, what was it, 4 billion? They sold it for Jason, Something like that, at least. Wwe think about where we're at our age now and going back 20 years, we could all get together and put together 2 million and buy. The UFC would be happy if it made a profit. It and what they've done with it is pretty remarkable, really.
[01:30:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I. I think Rome's right, though. There's a lot of criticism of Dana White, but you can't argue with his success and where he's taken it. I just, I just think overall, the fight game really is hard. As you, like you said, Aaron, where the champions rotate, where you don't. You don't get to build kind of these like, box office stars that they, that they were for a little while. When you talked about McGregor and some of these and Ronda Rousey when she was on a run from. On the women's side of things, like, I think UFC is just in a different era that you don't have, because, you know, for Americans, hey, we gravitate to the American star that, that we're. That we're going to. When you don't have that. Cool. Dana's selling this thing internationally and maybe it doesn't hit for me and some of the others that are maybe casuals for ufc, but they, if they go to different areas of the, you know, around the globe and put on a show like TKO was just in W for WWE was in Saudi Arabia, and they're talking about they're gonna have a big Saudi Arabian event with. With WWE at some point too. So they're just going to be, I think, continue some of those partnerships that they have just around. Around the world.
[01:31:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think the UFC would like to see a champion go on a run, but the talent that's coming up and guys that are rising so quick, it's just tough, man. I mean, every. You can. It's the fight game, right? It's mixed martial arts. You can get. You can get knocked out, you can get choked out. You just never know. I just said, you got Joshua van, the number 12 ranked fighter in the division, just knocked off the number one contender. The number one contender didn't even need to take this fight and would have got a title shot six months down the road. But since the champion was fighting on that card, he wanted to stay active. He gets upset. Now. The number 12 guy comes in and gets a title shot.
You don't see that a lot in boxing where the number 12 guy doesn't get a title shot for three or four years. The UFC's kind of fast track, guys. If the fans like you, you're entertaining. Dana White's gonna push you to get shots and get title shots. And if you get knocked out a couple times, a Justin Gaethje, who's one of the best fighters at 155 pounds, he's lost two title fights in the last three or four years. He basically told Dana White, hey, give me a title shot of retire. Dana White said, you saw the Jon Jones exit, you can hit the door too. And that's kind of, you know, not a lot of Dana White presents stuff that other commissioners can't because there's not a union. You're not under like a contract where we need to see you and you need to play out certain amount of time. Like, hey, if you're not happy in the sport, go ahead. We own your rights. Retire. We don't care there's another up and coming star or an up and coming fight.
And I love that about Dana because Dana White doesn't pull punches and give credit to the ufc. Why everything was shut down during COVID They bought Fight island basically in Abu Dhabi, sent fights over there, kept the action going. So, I mean, the UFC has done a lot. I think they're going to continue to do a lot. And to your credit, Rome, like we said, I don't think they're going to re sign up with espn. I think they're going to Netflix. More than likely.
Apple TVs on the market there too. I think those are probably the two front runners. But Netflix, I, I would say probably gets the deal. Dana White's not gonna. ESPN is gonna have to pay a lot more money than they want to for that. And I don't, I don't see him shoveling up. And there's been production problems too, where a lot of people have complained about the fights not working properly on the network. I haven't had that problem, but I've seen X people complain about.
[01:34:10] Speaker A: I don't have ESPN plus. I, I wouldn't know. I can only catch the fights that are on ESPN. It should come with the YouTube. We're already paying $85.
I don't see why they can't add Plus. But I guess, like, it's great that we do have like, like basically almost every college network trade off. I guess real quick, before we go, we were flipping through the channels at the hotel. My daughter caught wrestling and told me to stop.
It was on tv. It was. Wow.
Which I never heard of. What? Women of Wrestling.
[01:34:46] Speaker C: Women of Women of Wrestling? Yeah. Vegas based promotion. I believe Jeannie Buss owns yes.
[01:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah. It showed her as an executive producer and she's like, what? Girls can do that? And she's like, leave it. I'm like, all right, fine. And it got pretty crazy. I was like, am I supposed to change it?
[01:35:02] Speaker B: Like, because that's, that's the age my dad put wrestling on for me and I got hooked. Well, so that's the age she watched that.
[01:35:09] Speaker A: She like started running around her underwear.
[01:35:12] Speaker B: Did she want to wrestle you? Did she want to wrestle you? Yeah, that's what I mean.
[01:35:15] Speaker A: The elbows, dude.
[01:35:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:35:16] Speaker A: Like, she got me really good in the ribs. Like, hey, dude, you gotta give it, you gotta pull.
She was like, oh, oh. You know. Yeah, punch it out. But she never saw. She didn't think women could wrestle. And then she was really excited to watch it. So that's what we went to bed to. Watching Women of. Of wrestling. It was pretty crazy.
[01:35:35] Speaker C: Well, it's the, it's the really golden age of women's wrestling right now. Rome, you have the all women's WWE Premium Live event coming up next weekend in Atlanta. So it'll be an all women's card. WWE Evolution.
[01:35:49] Speaker A: So I'll put on for it. Why not?
[01:35:51] Speaker C: There you go.
[01:35:54] Speaker A: All right. Anything else?
[01:35:55] Speaker C: We didn't really talk about your Steelers and what the heck they were doing today.
[01:35:59] Speaker A: I don't know, man.
They're trading Pro bowl players for Pro bowl players.
[01:36:04] Speaker B: Do you guys. You guys didn't like what the Steelers did today?
[01:36:08] Speaker A: Not really, no.
[01:36:08] Speaker C: I, I would say this has been the most unstealer off season I could remember.
[01:36:14] Speaker A: Agree 100%.
[01:36:16] Speaker C: Like I, I, but I don't think.
[01:36:18] Speaker B: It'S a bad thing.
[01:36:19] Speaker C: I know, but like Aaron, we've been Tomlin guys for like 20 years now. But like, it's always just been like, you go into the off season with the Steelers, you know, we just bring, you know, we bring a guy in, but it's going to be like he fits the culture of that DNA of what the Steelers. You know, I guess we don't play offense. We just try to kick field goals. We tighten up the D. You know, we homegrown. You know, these skill position players, they get too much drama. We let them leave. They're bringing drama in everywhere.
[01:36:46] Speaker A: I don't understand why you had to get Ramsey. Ramsey is just A head case. And I like Fitzpatrick. He's, he's really good.
[01:36:53] Speaker C: And Ramsay's going to play safety. Right. They're moving him to safety. So there's basically you're putting Ramsey in safety instead of the Patrick.
[01:36:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:37:00] Speaker B: Honestly, I like the move.
I thought Fitzpatrick had a bad year last year. I thought Ramsey had a bit of a down year. But I think Ramsey Ramsay can get a bit lazy at times. And I think going to Tom a.
[01:37:15] Speaker A: Lot last year, I think going to.
[01:37:17] Speaker B: Tomlin and being held more accountable. I like what the Steelers are doing. They needed upgrade defense. They need more guys that can cover back there.
They got to compete with the Ravens and the Bengals in that division. That's a lot of offense to compete with.
So they needed to upgrade their defense.
Say what you want. Aaron Rodgers is probably an upgrade at quarterback. I don't know how much we'll see.
And they got the tight end too.
I, I like what Pittsburgh's doing. Still think they're probably the third best team in that division.
[01:37:44] Speaker C: But at the same time, I don't know what the Dolphins are doing.
[01:37:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. I don't like anything the Dolphins are.
[01:37:50] Speaker C: Doing because they also part of that. Would they traded Johnnu Smith too, right?
[01:37:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:37:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
So Steelers, we picked up an all pro wide receiver and Metcalf and then we let another one walk away.
We do a swap on defensive guys.
TJ's still waiting to get resigned. It's just a weird offseason. We let our running backs go.
[01:38:15] Speaker B: Well, they still have Warner, right?
[01:38:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:38:19] Speaker B: And then I think they picked up somebody else. I mean Najee Harris, it's an okay back. I mean he'll do okay. He'll do okay for the Chargers. I mean they got the rookie the Chargers drafted. So he'll back up.
Yeah, dk, they got Austin there.
You just picked up Smith. Like you said, they still have fair move so they got weapons. I mean, I, I to me getting rid of Pickens was the right idea. I mean you can't have Jalen Ramsey and Pickens on the same team. I'll tell you that right now.
[01:38:52] Speaker A: I like Pickens, man. I thought we could had a two.
[01:38:56] Speaker B: To me there's too much Antonio Brown and too much drama without, without the numbers in production that Brown pit up.
[01:39:02] Speaker A: You know the job between Ramsey and Metcalf. Right.
[01:39:07] Speaker B: Well, they were ram Seattle. There was a lot of drama there.
[01:39:10] Speaker A: So much beef. Dude, every time they met they used to get into a fight.
It's going to be a lot.
[01:39:15] Speaker B: You want to mess with dude. Yeah, Metcalf. I mean, have you seen that guy without. I mean, Metcalf's a legit 250 pounds or, like 4 pounds, 4% body fat.
[01:39:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:39:26] Speaker B: I mean, you know how those kids walk around in, like, Halloween costumes, looking, like, all buff and jack? That's DK Metcalf. Just say you're DK Metcalf.
[01:39:33] Speaker A: That's funny.
Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know. We'll find out. I do have Mission Impossible queued up, though. It's a good one.
[01:39:41] Speaker B: The first one, right?
[01:39:42] Speaker A: Yeah, the first one came out 96.
[01:39:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:39:45] Speaker A: Apparently, I don't have Paramount plus anymore. I don't know what subscription I have anymore. I'm getting lost.
[01:39:51] Speaker B: Hey, you gotta get that. Was it that Rocket Advisor, whatever that app is? So. You know what?
[01:39:55] Speaker A: You. I really do. Yeah. Rock the money. I do.
[01:40:01] Speaker C: How many subscriptions do you have?
[01:40:04] Speaker B: I think I got two.
[01:40:06] Speaker A: I don't know. I think I got you.
[01:40:08] Speaker B: This is. You got 13.
Oh, my God.
[01:40:11] Speaker C: I can't believe you haven't seen Mission Impossible as a movie yet, man. I mean. Yeah, they're only gonna get better.
Mission Impossible, Fallout.
One of the best movies ever.
[01:40:21] Speaker A: That is on Amazon prime right now. I'm not gonna watch that one. So.
[01:40:27] Speaker B: No, you gotta start them in order, dude.
[01:40:29] Speaker C: You start from the beginning.
[01:40:31] Speaker A: Luckily, the movies, even though I don't have Paramount, it's all included on YouTube.
You get a lot of movies on YouTube? I didn't even know. I just found this out right now.
[01:40:39] Speaker B: Well, that's why you're paying 85 bucks, Rome. So you get that extra bonus.
[01:40:42] Speaker C: It'll have. It'll have some on demand stuff. Stuff that are as.
[01:40:44] Speaker A: I didn't know that. That's cool.
I don't know if it's worth 85.
[01:40:49] Speaker B: But that's how they lure you in, Rome. They heard you talking, so they just throw that in demand. Mission Impossible 1 is really good. I like them all, actually.
[01:40:58] Speaker A: I wish.
[01:40:58] Speaker B: I can't go wrong with Mission Impossible.
[01:41:00] Speaker A: I have a microwave now. I want to buy some popcorn. I don't want to make it from scratch anymore. I'm done.
[01:41:06] Speaker B: I had some popcorn last week when I was over at G's.
Hey, you're pulling out my popcorn? I'm like, yeah, there's still one box left. Rum's not here to take it. He's like, all right, cool.
[01:41:15] Speaker A: Dude, I ate two bags over there.
[01:41:17] Speaker B: I know you did.
That's why my mom was like, hey, like, last time, Rome made all our popcorn. I'M like, yeah, he did.
[01:41:24] Speaker A: I didn't eat all the popcorn, bro.
[01:41:26] Speaker B: That was. That was it. That was the last of it. That's why my dad was like, hey, is there still some in there? I'm like, yeah, there's one box. He's like, all right, cool.
[01:41:32] Speaker A: One box or one bag?
[01:41:33] Speaker B: Yeah, one bag.
[01:41:36] Speaker A: I've seen you eat popcorn. Do you eat popcorn? Like, the Cookie Monster eats cookies?
[01:41:40] Speaker C: Popcorn's like five bucks for, like, a box. What are we talking about here?
[01:41:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:41:45] Speaker B: I don't know, but you know when. But see, this is what. This is what Rome does. Jason, he takes the last of it but doesn't throw it away. He leaves the box. So you think there's still one in there?
[01:41:56] Speaker A: I would not do that.
[01:41:57] Speaker B: That's.
That's what he pulls. And then you're, like, complete.
[01:42:01] Speaker C: Is he, like, taking the milk out and just empties it and then puts the empty carton back in?
[01:42:07] Speaker A: Jason. This guy.
Hold on.
This. This accusation comes from the guy when he's like, hey, take some treats for the road. Hands me kind bars. Like, oh, cool, man.
[01:42:19] Speaker B: Thanks.
[01:42:19] Speaker A: I appreciate it. No, hold on, hold on.
[01:42:21] Speaker B: All right.
[01:42:21] Speaker A: And then. And then I open up on the road. I buy one, like, what the hell? Tastes like dirt. I spit it out. I literally throw up. I. I look at the package.
It said expired in. In 2017.
[01:42:33] Speaker B: That's correct.
[01:42:34] Speaker A: That's what your boy gave me.
[01:42:35] Speaker B: I told you those were no good. You said you wanted to try them anyways.
[01:42:38] Speaker A: Nah, you said you got them within the last six months.
[01:42:40] Speaker B: No, here. Never, man. That's 2017.
[01:42:44] Speaker C: 2017.
[01:42:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, it was 2017. Yeah.
[01:42:48] Speaker A: Hey, if you go in that pantry of his, everything's 2017.
[01:42:54] Speaker B: I'd say in that. The last time you did it since expired.
[01:42:59] Speaker C: Last time he did a Costco, right? Yeah, he just went once in 2017.
[01:43:02] Speaker B: First of all, I never did the run. It's the exact roommate that's no longer with does, and I just kind of leave it there in memory of him.
So.
[01:43:12] Speaker A: Pancake Vicks.
[01:43:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it's still there.
Some brown sugar, white sugar. Hey, remember you got that decaf coffee? But like I said, I don't know how long it's been there either.
[01:43:23] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, just throw it out, man.
Sick.
All right.
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[01:43:51] Speaker B: Not bad. I mean, we haven't been on in a week.
[01:43:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:43:54] Speaker C: Eventually we're gonna get to the baseball preview. Right?
[01:43:58] Speaker A: It's coming up.
[01:43:58] Speaker B: We got the all star game coming up home, right?
[01:44:00] Speaker A: It's coming up. Dude. I'm excited for that.
[01:44:02] Speaker C: I mean, we can get to the fantasy baseball breakdown with Aaron and I too, as I'm making a charge into the top five right now.
[01:44:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:44:10] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I mean, you look pretty. Like you. Looks like a fourth place is a good possibility for you.
[01:44:14] Speaker C: Nice possibility. Yeah.
[01:44:15] Speaker B: I mean the question is, is Jason going to be a buyer or seller? That's the real question. Is he gonna go for it? Is he gonna go for it?
[01:44:23] Speaker C: He put. He put a trade out there and nobody liked it. And then I got. Now people are trying to want James Wood and they think I'm crazy or something. Giving away a guy who's like a top five player right now on a. On a five and one contract.
[01:44:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:44:36] Speaker A: You don't get.
[01:44:37] Speaker B: You don't move that guy 100. You don't move them. Unless you want to move them to me, then by all means, I would accept them for Willie Adamus and Luis Garcia. Just throwing that out there. You want them available?
[01:44:52] Speaker C: I need a closer. You already trade your closer.
[01:44:54] Speaker B: Yeah. You were like literally six hours late on that one.
[01:44:58] Speaker A: Damn.
Damn.
[01:45:00] Speaker B: No, I like, I like, I like. I like my Dolelander.
He's basically throwing six shutout innings before the rain got in his infielders faces. And he dropped a routine pop fly. Cost me three earned runs. Should have been an error. I gotta talk to that scorekeeper.
[01:45:17] Speaker A: Well, when we talk about baseball, maybe we could talk about whether Paul Skeins should be traded to the Dodgers.
Be good topic.
Ohtani pitching 102 miles per hour.
[01:45:30] Speaker B: I'm. I'd be scared of the Dodgers. Oh, tiny pitching 102. I'm just waiting for his arm to go flying off.
[01:45:34] Speaker A: I'm a little worried about that actually. Like wait a minute. Why is he throwing so hard so fast?
He's only pitching 2, 3 innings though.
[01:45:41] Speaker B: So what's the new guy that just came up and beat Paul Skeens?
[01:45:48] Speaker A: He's really good with Minnesota.
[01:45:50] Speaker B: No.
[01:45:51] Speaker A: Minnesota. No.
[01:45:53] Speaker B: Who was it?
[01:45:54] Speaker A: He had 11.
[01:45:56] Speaker B: I'm drawing a blank right now.
[01:45:58] Speaker A: 11 straight innings, no runs scored until they finally. Until his perfect bit got ruined.
[01:46:05] Speaker B: What day did those guys go against each other?
[01:46:07] Speaker A: This was past week or so.
[01:46:08] Speaker B: Yeah. It was like. Yeah. Was it Wednesday?
[01:46:10] Speaker A: Look it up real quick.
[01:46:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm looking it up right now.
Yeah, that's right. That I tried to trade for this guy, Jacob Mizarosku. Yeah, Yeah. I tried to trade Mike with them, but he scared the brewers. That dude, like, 101.
[01:46:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:46:29] Speaker B: And then the Reds just called up that Chase Burns, who got lit up today, but he looked pretty good against the Yankees in his first start. He throws 101.
[01:46:39] Speaker A: Some good guys coming up. The next wave of stars.
[01:46:43] Speaker B: The next wave. Tommy John, man.
[01:46:45] Speaker A: Tommy John. Yeah.
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