Dame Time Over in Milwaukee, H'Ayton the Lakers, Home Cookin' for Norris in British GP

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:05] Speaker B: What'S up? This is sources from the sofa. We got everybody. Tonight is Monday July Synth a quarter before 11 o' clock at night. So late pod, late recording. We haven't had one of those in a while so a little throwback. But not too much has happened in the past week really besides NBA signings, trades getting official, all that stuff that happened before the new NBA year officially started. We have some drama with the F1 British Grand Prix with Norris taking first and also I can't remember who got third. That was like a cool storyline. His first one like ever 15 years or whatever it was Nico Olkenberg. Welcome Berg. Yeah that was pretty fun and I've been watching a lot of Wimbledon Joker making some moves but pretty light though on sports movement. Aaron Rodgers making headlines for having some of the guys fly down to Malibu to kind of get some off season workouts in. I started watching Celtic City earlier today and it is really really good. It is really good. Have you guys seen that yet? [00:01:17] Speaker A: I have not. [00:01:17] Speaker C: I have not. [00:01:19] Speaker B: I was looking for like something like exciting, something kind of get me pumped up. Kind of like in a dry spell with like shows. We can talk a little bit about mission impossible later on. I did watch one and two. I'll queue in number three probably tomorrow. [00:01:32] Speaker C: Night. [00:01:35] Speaker B: And yeah, that's it. So NBA free agency finally kicked off. I think after record our pod Damian Lillard was let go. Kind of shocked the whole NBA world from the Milwaukee Bucks. At first I thought it was like a cold blooded move but then when you're looking at everything I guess there's like some grumblings happening behind the scenes where he wanted to go home and rehab with his family. I, I can't remember if it was in Portland or somewhere like in la and the Bucks were not really digging that. And then the craziest part is that they. So they're be paying his contract now for the next five years. 20 million, 25 million. I think there's like a cap it. It's supposed to be like 23 million I think and they slightly go past. I'm not sure how that works officially but then to turn around and sign Miles Turner to a pretty nice contract and I guess there was some rumblings you would think like he would never leave the Pacers. So a lot of people were upset that he left but he's also been trade bait for the past seven years. Like his whole time he's been a Pacer so you know they really weren't really showing him some love when it Came down to signing a new contract. They are Indian Pacers, are very adverse to the luxury tax and didn't want to get into that business, especially with Halliburton being out. It's been announced today, just earlier today, that he's not going to be playing at all next season. [00:03:05] Speaker A: So. [00:03:05] Speaker B: So lots of little, little things to kind of dissect there. But first off, man, at least for me, I was kind of shocked that Damon was let go and that. And I don't know, like, to me, like, it would be better if you're rehabbing with the team now you're doing on your own. That feels like kind of like lonesome. But at least now he gets to do it on his own timetable. And he was on ig. [00:03:25] Speaker A: It's on Dame time. It's on Dame time. [00:03:28] Speaker B: And he was on X saying like, oh, you know, the best is yet to come, but we know that's not happening. But how is he 36, I think. [00:03:37] Speaker A: 34, 35, probably 36 when he ever comes back. Yeah, yeah. So around there, tough move. But. [00:03:45] Speaker B: First initial reactions and then we'll talk about the rest of the trade. [00:03:48] Speaker C: I think, I think it was mostly surprising, not just the, the Dame, what they're doing with the contract. There's what this is called a stretching the remaining contract just so it doesn't have the cap. But that was really the financial flexibility that Milwaukee made needed in order to get Miles Turner, you know, able to sign Miles Turner. I guess the question going in the off season was Giannis's future and whether they were going to trade him. But doing this, basically you're saying we're not trading him because now you're making this stretch financial commitment. You're making kind of a. I mean, that's a. What's gonna be like a five year impact on Milwaukee's cap. And so you're doing this to try to bring John's help with, with, with Miles Turner and then what else they, Aaron, they brought Middleton back or whatever like that. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Portis, they bought us back, Porter's back, Gary Trent Jr. I believe is back with them. [00:04:41] Speaker B: Yep. [00:04:42] Speaker A: They shipped off Pat Covington and they just signed. I can't think of the guy's name, but another guy that was like a role player with their team. So. [00:04:51] Speaker C: But yeah, I mean, so it's all moves that you're making to try to keep Giannis there. And we're still in. We're in win now, you know, face. I guess if you're saying that for Milwaukee and I guess there's a window there when you got, you know, Pacers got a big injury, Celtics got a big injury, you know, so the east is maybe seen as a little bit more open. So like, hey, why are we, why are we trading it? I think just the, the buzz around the league. What was it going to be with? They trade in Giannis too? We talked about San Antonio. I think Miami wanted to throw their hat in there. Houston was mentioned early, but they got Durant. So, I mean, I think what you saying is now the Bucks are like, we're not trading him and we need as much as we can do. So we'll stretch this contract for Dame. He won't be with us anymore. He's not playing next season anywhere. And Miles Turner tries to give them something to be competitive in the East. But that's, I don't know. Contract stuff in the NBA is crazy. I mean, you could say Kevin Love getting traded today, which basically was just a. It was a math move around to get around for a trade. Trade aspect. So you get kooky. You get kooky stuff with the salary cap and the different exceptions and different things creatively teams can do. It's not exactly like you're moving around like assets for assets. You're moving around, you're moving around money, you're stretching money. You're not getting players in return for the most part. In some of this stuff, it's one sided deals. And how do I get contracts off the books? [00:06:17] Speaker A: Well, wasn't there. I didn't read up on it, but wasn't there like seven teams involved in that Durant trade? Is that what it officially came to? [00:06:23] Speaker B: Stupid. I really hate that. They were like hyping it up. Shams was saying like, like, we're working on something behind the scenes. Like the biggest thing you ever seen. I'm like, okay, like who? Like, everyone's talking about LeBron possibly getting traded or some other crazy move. Like, is Yanis, you know, finally on the trading block? Then they just officially released all the trades that got done during the draft. Seven teams. It was just waste of my time. I was really upset about it. [00:06:48] Speaker A: I just saw some kind of headlines. It was like, maybe I'll take a look at it. But not happy. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Ax was slamming Shams the whole time. Yeah, like, dude, where's Waj? [00:06:58] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, was. What is he GM for? Saint Bon Adventure? Was he. Who's he with now? [00:07:03] Speaker B: Saint Bon Adventure. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So nil. He's running the nil. [00:07:07] Speaker B: It was such a big hype for that 17. That was disgusting. I. Yeah. [00:07:11] Speaker A: So, I mean, back to what Jason was saying. I think Milwaukee isn't looking to move Giannis. That's not on the table. I think if Giannis really, really wants out, he's gonna have to publicly demand it. Kind of one of those, you know, star players that comes out and says, hey, I'm not happy, I want out. And then pimp pressure on. [00:07:28] Speaker B: What was your guys initial reaction though to. To Dane alert or what? Yeah. [00:07:36] Speaker C: I. It was surprising, but at the same time he's not playing next year and so like what do you know, what are they going to do to get somebody on the roster that. That's going to be there? And then you mentioned his age. Like, hey, they don't got time, they don't got time on the Giannis clock to be waiting for him to come back in two years to figure out what he's got left. Like they got a whole year next year they got to prepare for. So you are. It's shocking. But at the same time now you get to the spot. I mean these players at a certain age, they just start be going. It's, it's one year. Deals moving around. I mean, how many. We were just talking before the pot about CP3. How many teams is CP3 played on in the last like six years right now? [00:08:13] Speaker A: Like five or six teams. [00:08:15] Speaker C: Yeah, we're just moving around and where we're going. So I mean if that's the point where Dame right now, you know, just missed his window being the number one or the number two guy in the league now when he comes back, like. Well, you said it Instagram me or something. He said it's just the beginning or something. Yeah, yeah, he's probably, he's. He potentially makes this a good like second arc of his career. But he's gonna be like, he's gonna be the role guy. Well, I don't think so. But I mean you start adding him to like, let's just. I'm gonna throw a team out. What if somebody like San Antonio in two years just, you know, they have all these young guys and you start throwing a guy like Dame on the roster or something like that, I mean that's, that's the spot that he probably is going to come back into. [00:08:54] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah, I mean Dame, when he does come back, I mean, I don't think he's going to play next year. He's. He's probably going to be a good player to come off the bench. I mean, we're talking about teams, we Looked at teams that upgraded the roster. I mean, take a look at the Denver Nuggets. I mean, you think about Dame Lillard, if he goes there in two years, if they keep that roster going with the places they've added, coming off that bench, playing on what the veteran minimums, 5.7 million exemption, whatever that is. I mean, that's, that's a good bargain for a guy. You can still get 15, 20 minutes and get instant offense. He could still score. Dame Lillard, he could still play at a decently high level. He wasn't like he was, you know, he slowed down from where he was, you know, a few years ago, but he could still play well. I mean, I think shockingly is. I don't, I don't ever remember a contract like this ever being stretched this big for this huge contract. [00:09:44] Speaker B: It's a lot of money. [00:09:44] Speaker A: I mean, it's 22/million on the books for the next five years. And to your point, Rome, the player they got, Miles Turner, to me, is not worth stretching for a guy like that. You're talking about a big guy that's already 30 years old of 10. 10 years. Miles on his, on the tires already. Brooke Lopez, Miles Turner 9 million versus what is Turner getting close to 30? And you're actually paying, like you said, 50 plus because he's basically taking 20 million from Dame Lillard and you're getting on contract. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Just doesn't add up. [00:10:15] Speaker A: So, I mean, I, I get what Milwaukee's doing, trying to basically tell Giannis like, hey, we're in win now mode. Like we're giving you players. I mean, Turner's still pretty good. He can shoot threes, he can rebound, he can play defense. You know, he's part of the big, part of the Pacers run to the Finals. But is it a significant upgrade? Is it worth spending the money and getting rid of Lillard? I mean, you, like Jason said, I mean, you're wasting. He had what, two years, 112 million. So you're gonna waste 60 million anyways this year for him not to play. Then you come back, maybe you find a trade partner for him, maybe just buy him out the last 60 million and get that other money off the books. Who knows? [00:10:55] Speaker B: Yeah, for me, like when you stretch it out, right, this is the biggest contract that's been stretched out. And yeah, when you look at it now, they're gonna be paying Dame 25 million. They still got to pay Miles Turner. It's 107 million. I think it's fully guaranteed as well for four years. [00:11:10] Speaker C: One thing fully guaranteed, they. [00:11:15] Speaker B: They diminished Indiana Pacers by taking away one of their key cogs. But then at the same time, Indiana was trying to, you know, they've been using Turner as trade Bay for a long time, and they gave Indiana a chance to resign him, and they just were not going to go into luxury tax, especially with Halpern being out this next year. Who knows if that changes, if Halliburton is not hurt. But Turner, he did okay in the Finals. He kind of disappeared a little bit. Stretch five, is he better than broke Lopez? He's not a good of a shooter, not a good of a rebounder. He is lanky. Kind of reminds me like a poor man's Lamar Odom. You know, in some aspect, I do think it makes Milwaukee intriguing, but does it make their window even better in a depleted east with so many Achilles out? It's just really expensive. And I just think, like, if you're just gonna be doing that kind of mortgaging, five years of the Milwaukee Bucks, like, aren't you just wasting Giannis's career anyways? And so at first, I kind of liked it, and then now I'm thinking, like. Like, why not just trade Giannis? Like, it's. It's the end. It looks like the end to me. [00:12:23] Speaker C: It could be. But, like, if you're. If you're Milwaukee, up until Giannis came, what was the relevancy? What stars were they getting? You're trading your stars. Exactly. So, like, you trade him, that's. It is the end. And now what's going to be replacing that? You don't know what you're going to get to be able to come to Milwaukee at that point. Like, yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to crap in Milwaukee right now. But a friend told me this. I told you last year, I went to a couple weddings in Wisconsin and stuff. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:12:52] Speaker C: My friend looks up. Yeah, my friend looked up. Hey, the best things to do in Milwaukee, number one thing to do is take a day trip to Chicago. So, you know, no shade in Milwaukee. Really nice city. I like going there. But at the end of the day, like, hey, you said generations without getting a star, I wouldn't want to trade. You know, if you're the owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, your ticket draw. If I'm just being an owner, I not even talking about winning a championship, I need people to come see my product. The only thing that's going to come see your product is Giannis. You trade this, you trade this, you're not gonna get. What are you gonna get in return? Aaron. And I think Aaron floated if San Antonio was going to give up their second overall pick and a haul and stuff like that. Okay, maybe you're considering they would have. [00:13:30] Speaker B: To get a star in return. [00:13:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Which you don't like. I say NBA, you don't really have those trades. Like are you. What's the trade out there that like if you're like looking at OKC when they traded Paul George to get SGA or something like that is. Is a team on a budding superstar that potentially is going to be out there. But even if you do make that move, like the SGA trade was like, you know, one out of a hundred or something like that. I don't think there's many guys just sitting out there that we know that somebody be the future face of league. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Wasn't even projected to be as good as he was during that trade. [00:14:04] Speaker B: We liked SGA though. [00:14:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:05] Speaker B: We didn't think that was a good move. [00:14:07] Speaker A: No, but I mean, I mean and. [00:14:09] Speaker C: Clippers management said at the time they were trying to do anything not to throw them in. They're trying to give more draft picks and stuff. [00:14:13] Speaker A: Stuff. [00:14:13] Speaker C: But, but I think if you're looking from a business perspective for Giannis from, to answer your question, what I'm looking at is like I'm the owner of the, the Bucks. I need to sell, I need to sell tickets. I got Giannis under, He signed a. [00:14:26] Speaker A: Three year extension I think till 2027. He's under team control, right? [00:14:30] Speaker C: Yeah, so. Yeah, so I mean he's, they got. Yeah. The 2027 or 2028 or something like that. So like you, you, you have a couple more years here where like they're going to be the most relevant they're ever going to be. And then after that, like, you know, they're gonna have to move on at some point. I, I don't know. [00:14:46] Speaker B: Like, to be fair, Jason, they did have Michael Reddit and he was a pretty big baller. [00:14:50] Speaker C: I did like Michael. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Right. [00:14:51] Speaker C: I'm not gonna lie. [00:14:52] Speaker A: I think. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Wait a minute. [00:14:53] Speaker A: He always had him on his fantasy basket. [00:14:57] Speaker B: I was like, they had some guys there. I'm like, yeah, man, Michael Red, that forehead dude, that guy can shoot. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Hey, Michael Red, the lefty dude at Ohio State. [00:15:04] Speaker B: It was a weird stroke, but it was just. [00:15:06] Speaker C: I love. 20 years later, Aaron still knows my guys in fantasy basketball that I'd have every year. [00:15:11] Speaker B: That's. [00:15:12] Speaker C: And Michael Red was one of them. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I mean, look, Milwaukee, I Mean I, I'm sure they were probably taking calls and offers on Giannis, but probably asking for ridiculous, you know, return if they wanted to move them. I mean I think I floated out on the last pod to okc. I would call OKC and ask for Jalen and Chet in like two first rounds or first in a second. [00:15:36] Speaker B: Yeah, you actually just get the ball. [00:15:40] Speaker A: And get the ball rolling because we're. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Have to do like an Aaron trade simulator. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Wild. It can get wild, man. You just gotta, you know I, I pull off the trades in the fantasy baseball so that's, that's where I get the trades going down there. But I mean look, Milwaukee like you said Rome we know Celtics, we know the Pacers are out. Who knows who else is going to get hurt. I mean Milwaukee could have for all intents of person Giannis has got hurt in every playoffs except this one and that's kind of really hurting them. I mean Indiana's had their number in the playoffs these last few years. [00:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:13] Speaker A: Now to your point, they take Turner from them but I think Indiana is okay with that. I think they were on the fence. If I was Indiana I would not have re upped Turner. I thought he, I thought if you go back and watch the finals, he didn't play well. He looked sluggish to me that's not worth spending big money on especially if you're going to go into the apron or whatever, you know. Now Indiana, even before the injury when he talked about it briefly, they traded back with was it Toronto or New Orleans to get. [00:16:41] Speaker B: Now it's going to. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Be a guaranteed probably top five top ten pick. Yeah, looks genius. They still have good depth. They'll probably still, you know, get. I mean they still got name Harden and a few other players there that are. Everybody's returning for the most thinking probably. [00:16:56] Speaker B: It'S like they can probably fit any other stretch big man in there and he'll mesh well with, with Halliburton when he comes back. [00:17:03] Speaker A: I mean let's not even, you know, we're talking about big guys. I mean you got Porzingis with Atlanta. I don't know what his contract is there but once he comes off the books he'd be perfect for going to Indiana once he's off the books in Atlanta. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:17:14] Speaker C: So interesting. [00:17:15] Speaker A: I mean to me you're going to be able to get him for a lot cheaper than you got Turner probably In like a two year, you know, 30, 40 million dollar deal or something. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Atlanta's low key. Pretty interesting going to next year. [00:17:27] Speaker A: There's a lot of teams interesting in the east. [00:17:29] Speaker B: Like they got like some ballers and like some players and they had to shake that up anyways. And they're. I think you mentioned, Aaron, they were only a couple years removed from an Eastern Conference finals run. Anyway. [00:17:38] Speaker A: 20, 20, 21. They played the Bucks ironically in the Eastern Conference finals. [00:17:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:44] Speaker A: And I go back to Milwaukee too. I always look at it kind of organizations. We talk about an organization like okc, the Lake or Lakers when they had Jerry west, even when the Clippers got them. What has Milwaukee been? They've been a disaster. They fired three coaches in the last four years. Boone Houser. They should never got rid of him. [00:18:02] Speaker B: You're right. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Then halfway through they had what, the second best record in the East. They got rid of that coach. Bringing Doc Rivers from the booth. [00:18:09] Speaker B: Big mistake. [00:18:10] Speaker A: Doc Rivers hasn't done really much there. I like Doc, but I mean he's. He's kind of like, you know, one of those coaches that, you know he'll win you 4550 games. But outside of that, he's kind of overvalued and overrated. [00:18:23] Speaker B: He was halfway retired. You know, he was already golfing a lot. He had a podcast going on the ringer. It was just. [00:18:28] Speaker A: I mean Milwaukee gave him a shitload of money. He's not going to say no. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's hard to say no. Okay. I think we talked a lot about it. So. Yeah. So dame time. He's on his own time now. There's rumors already that like some teams he might sign with when the time comes around. What else happened in the past week? I guess the biggest one was today, Clippers trading. [00:18:57] Speaker A: We got DeAndre and I think to the Lakers Laker fans, that came out. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah. So yeah, you know that, that was the one guy. It seemed like it was lining up. Once he cleared waivers, he was going to sign. Sign it to a very similar contract as what Lopez signed. He's seven years younger. I would have liked Lopez back in the Lakers. I really liked him. I know he's like a little slower, but X and Instagram, they were going crazy, man. Showing highlights of Ayton and I'm not, I'm not. He gets solid numbers, right? He gets some solid numbers and if you put him with like a pick and roll type of point guard, you know he. He did some great things with Chris Paul, which is why there's rumors now Chris, you know, they might want to bring Paul over to the Lakers. But there was like, there was like a five minute clip of guys just getting rebounds in front of him. He's just standing underneath the basket, not doing a goddamn thing. Look like he's just twilling his stomach. [00:19:54] Speaker A: Go back and watch the NBA finals against Brooke Lopez and those guys that basically put in really often, you know, that's what basically ruined DeAndre. Yeah. [00:20:03] Speaker B: Like, no defensive presence at all. And you know how, like, they have like, all these new trades and like. Like, who's stopping this team? So they have the Lakers updated with deandre Ayton and some guy, some. Which he's right. He's like, effort, effort stopping that Lakers team. Bunch of guys that don't put any effort on dm, Just like, dude, like, yeah, this team would have been nice like five years ago maybe. It's just a man. It's gonna be a rough spot. Being a Laker fan, being a Steelers fan. Daughters are losing five, six in a row. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Not only in Rome. We'll get into that. [00:20:37] Speaker B: They're getting their ass kicked right now. Like, dude, this sucks. I'm not used to being this kind of fan. [00:20:42] Speaker A: That might have been the greatest weekend, I think, in me watching the Dodgers play all in my lifetime. [00:20:46] Speaker B: I can't even root for my second team, the Red Sox, because they're also sucking dick. It's like, all right, can't add a third team. That's not fair. Anyways. [00:20:57] Speaker A: I think it's the Valkyries for you. Rome. [00:20:59] Speaker B: The Valkyries, yeah. [00:21:03] Speaker A: But DeAndre and back to DeAndre. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah, DeAndre. Aiden signed the Lakers. It's good. They had to, right? It's just. They need a lot more. They lost some good players with Smith. That other white guy they declined from. From the Jazz. Like, he's okay. He had like 30 good games, but, like, not enough to. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not really satisfied. [00:21:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, deandre A. And coming over. I mean, he was with the Suns. Got part of that team that got to, you know, the 20, 21 NBA Finals. Got beat by the Bucks. And then from there, Ayton got moved to what? Portland. [00:21:38] Speaker B: Portland. [00:21:38] Speaker A: And really, I mean, like you said, Roman's numbers look good. He puts about 14, 15 points a game. I mean, he's a good shooter from about 15 to 17ft. He's got good soft touch. Okay. Rebounder, but not a good defender. Not a good shot blocker. He's not. He's not what you need when you got Luca out there playing no defense on the perimeter. [00:21:59] Speaker B: How are you not a good shot blocker when you're 7ft tall. [00:22:04] Speaker A: I mean it's, I mean there's some guys that are just really, really good. That's all they do is shot block. Right. And then there's guys that just don't. I mean there's a lot of guys, I mean it's timing, instinct, speed. You just, you know, effort. That's one of the things too. If we want to talk about it, you know, send that guy my contact of X. You know, me and him gotta, you know, we see the game pretty similar when it comes to the Lakers. You might be a fan of the show, but I mean look, they needed to sign somebody. They re upped even Jackson Hayes, who. [00:22:34] Speaker B: You know, I do like that they had to. [00:22:37] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I mean coming off the bench I think is fine. You can get, you can get 15 minutes off the bench from him and no pressure. We'll see how, how much J.J. redick, you know, appreciates him going into the season. But I mean the Lakers, a lot of question marks. We talked about it. What's going to happen? LeBron that's kind of been quiet on all fronts. Is he trying to sneak a trade somewhere or not? Obviously the numbers and salary have to add up. Your boy Austin Reeves declining the four year extension. So that's going to make, you know, obviously he's going to get more banking on himself to get more. So you got that. Deandre A. Is only there. Does he have a player or team option for the second year? I forget what it is. [00:23:15] Speaker B: I thought it was player option, but. [00:23:16] Speaker A: Okay, so you could lose essentially 3/5 of your starting lineup could be gone if you're the Lakers. So I mean, if you're the Lakers, like you said Rome, they got to add some more players and some depth to that team and the west is not going to be easy. It's already a deep conference. So I mean. Well, we'll see. But the Lakers definitely need to add some more player option and I mean, I think it's, I mean he's getting paid well, it's what, 16 million. But plus he's getting part of that Portland payout buyout too. So he's almost making like 30 million a year. [00:23:46] Speaker B: He's gonna get 25 from. That's nice. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:52] Speaker B: Wait, he's only 27. [00:23:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Ayton came out after one year at Arizona, so he's young. God, wasn't he the first overall pick? [00:24:01] Speaker B: He was, yeah. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. [00:24:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. I don't know if you want to talk about the Clippers trading Pal over the Miami we were talking about it before we jumped on the pod. I like it for Miami, not so much the Clippers. You feel a little different, Aaron. [00:24:17] Speaker A: I mean, I like it for Miami. I like it for the Clippers too. I mean Miami got him from really nothing. And I think the Clippers, like I said, they probably weren't going to re up him after this last year of his contract. I like Collins. He's a solid player. He was a big part of that Atlanta team back in 2021. They got to the Eastern Conference. He's just been on a bad Utah team. So somebody. Everybody's forgot about him. I think going to the Clippers with the size they've added in, the length, I mean if you look at the teams in the West, Clippers themselves, defense and length and depth are what's kind of, what's kind of trending now. Right. I mean if you look at Houston, all their guys are six eight, six nine and long now the Clippers kind of getting the same way. Right? Brook Lopez, 7 footer Zubock. Now I bring in Colin Six Eight who can shoot the three. He's a 43 point career shooter. I like it for the Clippers, but I do like it for Miami as well too. I think it's a win win for both teams, but Miami needed somebody for sure and I think it's. It's a good pickup for them basically getting him for nothing. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Yeah, Jazz, we're not really talking about them. They just got Kevin Love, which sometimes you forget he's still in the league but still collecting that big contract they got from the Cavs. Right. Is he still on that? [00:25:26] Speaker A: I don't know. Who's paying them, man? [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah, a couple second round picks. I do like it for the Heat just because they've been looking for like another score for a while. They have. They haven't had much luck. They were terrible with Jimmy Butler, they just got worse after they traded him away. But I think Powell kind of fills that role for a little bit while they kind of retool and figure out what they're going to do after that. And Norm Pal, he's a little bit older, but I think they could probably assign them to like another two or three year extension after this and it's kind of like a nice little stop gap. I really like it for them and they could be, I guess I think they could be competitive. [00:26:02] Speaker C: I mean they'd be competitive if you want say one thing about the Heat and with spoils are going to. They get the most out of A bunch of guys you never heard of generally, like off the bench and people they're developing and, you know, they get. Maybe you could pay it elsewhere. I think the biggest thing that you think about with Miami right now is Rally's always been this guy that has just gotten the stars. He got, he got LeBron down there when he was with, you know, the Showtime Lakers, when he was with the Knicks, like it was about bringing veterans, bringing stars in. Now Miami, over the past, you know, Post D. Wade, LeBron era, they've been you know, drafting guys and developing guys and getting the most out of kind of little. And the biggest guy they've got pretty much was Jimmy Butler and then kind of worked around him and they, you know, they had the trips to the Finals and were, were there, but they weren't kind of there. Like they made it to the Finals, you can't take it away from them. But they never felt like, oh, this is a team built for the long haul, that's going to hold up. It felt like the AC to the Finals felt like a little bit of a, you know, a blessed path. It was kind of like a one and done, you know, out of there. So they've been kind of like treading water and making kind of like these half measure moves to keep them in the conversation. But there's just so many good teams in the east right now that, hey, it's good, it's a good move for them, but like, they didn't make the huge play for Durant. You know what, you know, maybe if they're waiting for Giannis, but they, you know, I don't know what deal they're offering because if you remember, go back to the Dame trade, it was like basically they said, like, basically their whole team was off limits and they just wanted them for free because they wanted to come there. They probably were doing the same thing with Durant. They didn't want to give up. Was it Jovic and a bunch of the other guys? They didn't really want to part with anything is some of the news out of Miami. So it's a good move for them. But this gets them to what, Aaron, the seventh seed in the East? [00:27:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, they got Hero, they still got bam. I like Powell going there. I mean, they had to, they had to get another score because they just trade, signed and trade Duncan Robinson to Detroit. So they needed another perimeter score. The guy that they drafted, I've heard nothing but good things about. I mean, a lot of teams, you know, writers, draft evaluators, gave Him a big plus on that. They got Jaime Hawkes out of ucla. He's gonna be going to his third year. Re up Davion Mitchell. I'm looking at the still got Wiggins. I mean, yeah, I mean, they're probably, you know, a fifth, maybe six seed in the Easter ceiling right now. But I guess I get out of the play in game, right, Jason? I guess that's something they've been unlike. Unlike the Bulls, they're trending upwards of getting out of the play in. The Bulls are kind of actually trending in the opposite direction towards not even getting into the play in. But yeah, I mean, to your point, Rome, I mean, it's a good pickup for Miami. They needed it. They didn't give up anything. And like Jason said, I mean, Pat Riley's trying, you know, he's trying to make a dollar out of 50 cents right now. He's trying to get Miami over the hump and trying to get him something secure a star. They just don't have the assets. They haven't had a high draft pick. They just haven't been able to get into that lottery and have a player fall on their lap like a Dwayne Wade. I mean, they were bad when Wade went there. I think he was the fifth or six overall pick. The Lakers, they picked up all that dysfunction. They made the trade for Shaq. It brought him a title. And then, you know, D Wade, LeBron being so close. Buddy, buddy. And Chris Bosch. Bosch didn't want to go to Cleveland and play in the cold. He went to South beach and LeBron said, Screw it, I'll team up. And then they went to four straight NBA Finals. One, two, they got a great sharpshooter and like Ray Allen. To Jason's point of getting veterans around star players right now, they have a lot of young players with veterans, but not a star. They still don't have a star. I like Tyler Hero, but he's more like an Austin Reeves. If he's your number three, I like your team. When he's your 1A, not so much. [00:29:55] Speaker B: I. I guess the general consensus like on X was everyone likes to trade for all three teams. Jazz because they kind of got rid of some stuff and all the contracts come coming back. They're all expiring or they can do quick buyouts. So, you know, they're not like Jazz are like making some good moves. They're not going to be competing for a play in, but they're kind of. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Slowly making good moves for the last five years and they still haven't capitalized on it, man. I mean they're drafting guys there that they can. They don't even privately work out. Don't even want to go to their. [00:30:27] Speaker B: Team, you know Bailey. But with the Heat though, I guess trading, they're hard capped now so they can't really do much. So they're not going to be able to go after another star. And that puts them more like on schedule. If they don't extend Pal and they just let his contract die off, then he becomes unrestricted free agent. They can sign up for more, not affect their short term, long term cap. So that's kind of interesting. [00:30:50] Speaker A: Did they. Did they give an extension to Tyler Hero yet? [00:30:52] Speaker B: I don't know. I want to say yes. [00:30:55] Speaker C: The original one. Yeah, I think the off the original. [00:30:57] Speaker A: One he did because I thought he was due for one. Not this summer but the next or they could get something done now like a three year. I don't know was it 150 million or whatever max he could sign or something. [00:31:09] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:31:10] Speaker C: Yeah. He had a four year extent for 120. [00:31:14] Speaker A: Okay. And you just recently signed that. [00:31:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:18] Speaker A: All right. And I think bam still locked up for this year. Coming up in the following year, I believe. [00:31:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:27] Speaker C: So shouldn't say that. Aaron. He's got two. He's got two years left in that four year deal. [00:31:32] Speaker A: Okay. [00:31:32] Speaker C: So this is year three. [00:31:34] Speaker A: Okay. So that's what I mean. I think next summer he's due for another. Eligible for another extension which I think would be like 3 year, 180 max. Whatever it is. But yeah. [00:31:43] Speaker B: So you guys like it, huh? [00:31:45] Speaker A: I like it for all the teams. Yeah. [00:31:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:48] Speaker C: Because like we. We were talking before the pot but for. For the Clippers. You're talking about what we own. I guess it's the worst kept secret. They're talking about this opens them to get Beal after he's bought out and then the potential of CP3 too. So adding some different stuff to the team. You're getting some cheaper veterans onto it. You know a starting starting group that was already considered one of the best in the west last year. [00:32:10] Speaker B: Yeah. What's crazy is I'm looking back at who finished what last year. You know Thunder, they were number one, Rockets were two. They say the same Rockets have only beefed up and they were. [00:32:21] Speaker A: They just traded. What was it? Cam Whitmore. [00:32:24] Speaker B: So no, you know what? I got stuck. Maybe this time I got stuck reading IME Udoka rumor saying that he's gaining look a little personal with one of the players, girlfriends. And so that's who ended up getting traded out. I didn't get a chance to check the validity, but okay, hey, that's what. [00:32:42] Speaker A: The sources say down in the Houston. That's, that's what they're saying then I. [00:32:46] Speaker B: Only got a chance to check one Houston Reddit board and like it's, it's seems like it's. [00:32:51] Speaker A: Yeah. What more went, more got traded. I don't remember what team he got. He got moved to, but so it. [00:32:56] Speaker B: Might have been him. [00:32:57] Speaker A: So I mean that, that makes a little sense. We'll dig deeper into that. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Dig deeper than that. Yeah. If he sleeps around in Houston, dude, it's just, he's just a dog, dude. [00:33:06] Speaker A: That's a common thing in Houston, man. That's just kind of how that thing goes down there. Yeah, that's why everybody wants to get back there. [00:33:13] Speaker B: Well, Lakers are number three. They did not get better in my opinion. Nuggets have gotten better, Clippers have gotten better. Timberwolves, they were, I think were the second best team in the second half in the NBA. They're going to come back swinging and I think they just re signed Randle to a pretty good contract. [00:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah, Randall and Reed. [00:33:36] Speaker B: So yeah, Warriors. I kind of put them in the same position as the Lakers. Not much going on there. [00:33:41] Speaker A: I mean, what are they going to do with Koanga? I mean, I've heard, I've heard the Bulls are interested, but you know, they've kind of been holding. He's kind of like their version of Miles Turner. They just kind of throw him out there as trade bait and nobody wants to sign the guys get stuck back on their team. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Well, didn't they sign him to a contingent contract? So it makes them like a restricted free agent, something like that? [00:34:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think they have the ability to match or get picks or whatever it is in exchange. Yeah, but I don't know. [00:34:10] Speaker B: So offered him a big contract but nothing else? [00:34:12] Speaker A: No, I don't think anybody has yet. They're kind of waiting. The Bulls, I guess were interested. I mean, Jason might not know about more about that, but yeah, I just, I mean, I don't know. That's kind of. That's kind of their chip. They've been playing. [00:34:24] Speaker B: Bulls are trading guys away, not getting anything in return. It's just surreal there. I don't know. And the west is gonna be tough. Spurs are gonna be better. Just gotta do something, dude. I don't want to see them back in the play in rum. [00:34:36] Speaker A: I think we talked about it. When we talked on the phone Thursday or Friday. What's. You know, how, how much longer is Rob Palinka going to be there? I mean, I think, I think it's short lived. [00:34:47] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know how close he is with the new. With a new owner, you know. Don't know. [00:34:53] Speaker C: He just pulled off like the heist of the century like we were talking about three months ago. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah, but you know, him talking about Smith, you know, like that's not a good look to try to lower his value. Then he signs away with the Rockets. Man, I don't know. [00:35:09] Speaker C: You gotta do it tongue in cheek, like the head coach of the. The Panthers was doing during the final when they were talking about. I forgot. [00:35:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:35:18] Speaker A: Sam Bennett. You also gotta win the title too. [00:35:21] Speaker B: I love that interview. [00:35:22] Speaker A: Dude, I can't get knocked out in the first round. [00:35:25] Speaker C: Guy's terrible, terrible team player. Nobody likes him. [00:35:27] Speaker B: Yeah, nobody likes them. [00:35:29] Speaker C: Hate having him on the team. [00:35:30] Speaker B: That was really good. I. I did like that. Yeah. Plinka. Something about his hair. Him looking like Rob Lowe wearing too much lip gloss. He just looks a little sneaky sometimes. [00:35:41] Speaker C: I was gonna say he's gonna be there until they get. They signed Rob Lowe to make the movie about how he pulled off the trade for Luca. [00:35:48] Speaker B: You know, they, they, they should just do a movie now. Yeah, they have all the actors ready to go. All right. Not much else besides Mike Brown getting hired to the Knicks. He lacked a little sizzle for me. That's how Stephen A. Said it. Sizzle. Like sizzle. [00:36:08] Speaker A: It's still exist on, man. Mike Row won't even start with Mike Brown's name on it. [00:36:13] Speaker B: Good coach. He's coached a lot of hall of Fame players. Been around them. Also a little underwhelming when things get tight. His game plans at the end of games. Kind of like Doc Rivers. He's like a poor man's Doc Rivers, in my opinion. I liked him in sack. He got canned a little too early. Did terrible with the Lakers. He did what he could with the Cavs, but again, the offensive strategy was just unimaginative and fell really short when you had a guy like LeBron and that was like, that was it. So do you like it? Do you guys like it? I don't know if I like it or not. [00:36:55] Speaker C: I mean, it's the best they could get. You fire, you fire Thibodeau. Best results. I think what Tibs buys you and Aaron. I talk about this like he know Tim's knows how to Grind his roster down to get every last inch, every last piece of effort out of them until there's nothing left for whatever 7 guys he's gonna throw out there in that tight rotation. But, I mean, Tibbs has proven that, you know, whether this is in. It's the best the Bulls have been up until recently. It was the best that Timberwolves had been. But obviously, the Timberwolves have had more success lately. But, right. You know, you bring. You bring the Knicks to the Eastern Conference finals. First time they've been there since, what was it? [00:37:37] Speaker B: Since the 99. [00:37:38] Speaker C: 99, when they went to the finals, you know, so there had to been more there. And again, I know we talked about the pod with. With Tibs going out. Like, a lot of times it's easy as, like, does your boss want you there or not? And whether he's rubbing people the wrong way and whatever, I. I don't. I don't think they got better because does Mike Brown's coaching style really go with what the roster that's kind of built there? Even. Even the trade for Cat last year was just questionable because they were like, does he really vibe with what, you know, this Knicks team wanted? And the Knicks. I don't know. The Knicks are weird for being the, you know, at the Mecca. When you think about New York, you should think of glitz and glamour and they got this stuff. But for whatever reason for the Knicks, they want this, like, grind it out, you know, effort, you know, like, they don't want stars for New York basketball. They want stars everywhere else in New York, but for basketball, they think they're, like, in the Midwest. For whatever reason, we need to grind it out. We work, guys. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I don't. I mean, I like Mike Brown. I don't like him going to New York, you know, to your question, is he an upgrade over Tibbs? No. I mean, Tibbs had that team trending in the right direction. I mean, they've gotten better and a step further every year in the playoffs, they've added some new pieces there. I mean, you talk about, you know, bench and, you know, Tibbs has not played his bench. And, you know, that's, I guess, maybe the downfall. I mean, their defense wasn't great this year, but they don't have defensive player unit to defend. I mean, then you get Mike Brown. Mike Brown's known for defense. He was never, like you said, Rome. His offenses are pretty stale, let's put it that way. So now you're going, you're getting rid of Tibs Because Tib supposedly didn't know how to manage games at the end, but yet they were winning all these games at the end, except for just one where they, you know, Indiana hit five three pointers in the final two minutes and basically stole the series maybe from under their nose in that game. [00:39:31] Speaker B: You know, it's funny, like, someone did like the, the stat crunching on that, and they. And Tibbs was one of the better coaches at the end of the games. [00:39:38] Speaker A: Yeah. So their, their reasoning for firing. I think Jason hit it on the head. If ownership and management doesn't like you, they'll make any excuse to the press to get rid of you. And I think that's what happened here. [00:39:49] Speaker C: I've been there. [00:39:50] Speaker A: I think all the players respect Tibs. They may seem a little overworked, and some of them made that publicly known. [00:39:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:57] Speaker A: But I think as a man, they respect them. I think they'll like Mike Brown, but he's more, you know, he's not as tough as a grinder and interesting. Jason said, look, Tibbs, everywhere he's gone, that team and organization has got better as soon as he's left. [00:40:13] Speaker B: Yeah, even. [00:40:14] Speaker A: But Minnesota's actually regrouped now. But I don't even know if Tibs maybe. Did he have Edwards his rookie year? I don't, I don't remember if he was part of the rookie year there for Edwards or not. He might have already been gone. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not really sure. I think. [00:40:27] Speaker A: I think if Tibbs was still there with Aunt Edwards, Minnesota would be just as good, if not better than what they are now. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah. The biggest knock on Tibs, like Lou Dang and other players still blame Tibs for, like, shortening their careers. Like, he just wore some guys a. [00:40:43] Speaker A: Little too much tips is old school basketball, man. [00:40:47] Speaker B: I would have liked for New York to talk to Phoenix Suns coaches, the ones that they just can the last two years. I thought either of them might have been a good fit. Mike Buddenholzer, Malone, I don't know what happened. [00:41:03] Speaker A: You know, maybe he just didn't want to coach this year, wanted to keep working for espn. [00:41:06] Speaker B: But I think a year off's good for Michael Malone. I think he's waiting for something else. [00:41:10] Speaker A: I think he is, too. I don't think he wants to deal with that New York drama. [00:41:14] Speaker B: But Mike Bootleholzer would have been really interesting. [00:41:16] Speaker A: He. [00:41:16] Speaker B: He did really well with the Bucks. Like, I liked him with the Bucks. [00:41:20] Speaker A: Well, your guy, Frank Vogel just joined the Maverick staff. [00:41:23] Speaker B: Dude. Mav. Yeah, Mavs. Yeah. They're bulking up the coaching staff too. I'm not really liking it. [00:41:28] Speaker A: Yeah, look, with the Mavericks, I mean, look, people, people could say they got fleeced. They look better going in. They look better right now future wise than the Lakers. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Well, they got so lucky. That's. Jesus Christ. [00:41:42] Speaker A: Luck or not, they, they look better on paper. And that's just, that's the way things are looking. [00:41:46] Speaker B: They got two of my favorite players, Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving. Like that's. [00:41:51] Speaker A: And you're gonna be your third player because you're gonna like Cooper flag too. The Great White Hope. [00:41:56] Speaker B: The Great White Hope. [00:41:58] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:41:59] Speaker B: We'll see. We'll see how it goes. [00:42:01] Speaker A: But yeah, going back to Tibs, let's not forget he was part of those Boston teams that were great with Doc Rivers that got to titles and won a title. He was the number one assistant controlling that defensive unit. So tips could coach. He's a really good coach. He's kind of old school. Grind your guys into the ground. But let's see, maybe he takes a year off, maybe becomes an assistant somewhere. And New York Mike Brown wish him well. But I think that's a, that's a two year job before he's out. I say he doesn't last but two years. [00:42:32] Speaker B: I think so too. I was going to say like what's the over under for that? Because I just think they're going to eat him alive. [00:42:38] Speaker A: I do too. [00:42:38] Speaker B: He's too nice of a guy for New York. I feel bad already. You know they're gonna be talking shit on him in like a week one. [00:42:46] Speaker C: But the bar is high. I mean the bar is okay. You got to win the championship because you gotta get, you got to do better than the Easter Conference finals. [00:42:52] Speaker B: So it's just so unrealistic. Like it was already like lucky. [00:42:55] Speaker A: Not that, but now that since Boston and Indiana are both eliminated from the pitcher, basically now there's telling you there's nobody that should be able to stop you. [00:43:03] Speaker B: I think. What are the odds right now? Like it's top 10, right? Top. [00:43:07] Speaker A: I thought you said they were top five when you originally mentioned it. And that was about a coach going into the draft. I don't even know if they drafted anybody. I think they were trading all their guys on draft day. [00:43:16] Speaker B: So yeah, I think that's it for the NBA. [00:43:21] Speaker C: Yep. [00:43:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk a little Wimbledon and F1. All right. Time to talk a little F1. I guess we're officially the halfway mark of the season and the grit and the, and the grish. The British Grand Prix had some drama in it. Weather, wind, a 10 second penalty and a lot of love for third place on the podium, which was really cool to see it. It was really magical. So really fun seeing that. As I was telling you guys afterwards, I had a rough Saturday night. So cop bits and pieces of the second half, but was happy my Guy Norris took the victory by the way. I don't think I ever heard him speak publicly and I'm not sure I have no second doubts, you know, running for him now. But any case, elaborate on that. [00:44:30] Speaker A: Rome. [00:44:31] Speaker B: I just don't like the way he talks. [00:44:34] Speaker C: He's British. [00:44:36] Speaker B: I don't know something about, I just like, I don't know, still got that. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Kind of like teenager kind of vibe voice to him. [00:44:45] Speaker B: Something was weird. I just, I just didn't like it. I'm like, this is what I've been rooting for. [00:44:54] Speaker C: Well, if you're jumping off the Lando bandwagon, I think, you know, hundreds of thousands of people in Silverstone in the Lando grandstands. I think the Lando stands are calling. Yeah, right there in, right there. So they're, yeah, so they had the highlighter green on or the McLaren Papaya on for Landos. He's definitely become the fan favorite around England and at the British Grand Prix which is crazy considering Lewis Hamilton, seven time world champion and all the success there. And I'll say last year, you know, I went to the British Grand Prix. Last year was amazing. One of the best sporting events that I had ever been to. I had a little FOMO watching on the race this year because like man, I was sitting right there ready, going into turn one. I really want to be there right now. And it was just ultimate chaos to start that race. The weather in Great Britain obviously is, you know, it's summer and then all of a sudden it's 60 degrees and it's just raining at random times. And it was just everything you want from a strategy perspective to just ensue chaos. So there wasn't any, there was expected rain but there wasn't rain before the race started. But then there was and then people had inters on and then before the race even started you had like four or five guys basically after the, the warm up lap, come into the pits and change tires and the, the started from the pit lane. So you had like a weird, you know, start with a bunch of guys, you know, in the pit lane and then you just had Just crazy handling throughout the race and teams trying to go at, you know, aggressive strategies of who's the first to get on the slicks and getting off the inters. But as soon as they go on the slicks you had people just crashing out everywhere. You know, Franco Colapinto didn't even start the race because he crashed in practice and qualifying. Liam Lawson, Gabriel Bortoletto, Isaac Hadjar, Kimi Antonelli all freaking, you know, crashed into that wasn't really Antonelli's fault though. He got smashed into the back of and really messed up the back of his Mercedes. But you had both HOS cars running into each other at one point. Had a nice turnabout there. So that was pretty entertaining. You had George Russell like, you know, spinning and flying through the area. You had Charles LeClaire had probably one of the worst drives he's had. It was just chaos room. You missed a ton in the beginning of the race. I know there's some entertainment at the end of the race. Yeah, coming out of that there was, I guess there was three main stories. I mentioned all the, the drama from the lower car. Three main stories coming out of this. So I'll start first and foremost. I think the best story come out of was you mentioned Nico Hulkenberg getting his podium. 200, what was it? [00:47:24] Speaker A: 39. [00:47:25] Speaker C: Yeah, 239 races in F1. Hadn't got a podium was kind of seen as, I don't know if prodigy is the right word as he was coming through. But on the heels of, you know, Michael Schumacher, you know, and you know, the great seven time world champion, Hulkenberg was seen as one of these guys that was going to do big things and just had one of those careers where he just was never at the right team at the right time. Whether it was with McLaren, whether it was with Renault, basically was out of the sport. And then Haas and Gunther Steiner brought him back and he's really shown his talent at Haas the past couple years and then this year with, with Sauber because these are some pretty bad cars that no one has got off and. And he, Nico Hulkenberg has, has gotten some random points finishes in like 8th, 9th, 10th place, you know, taking, you know, terrible. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Bottom qualified 19th. He qualified 19th, which is amazing here. [00:48:17] Speaker B: Yeah, wow. [00:48:18] Speaker C: I mean he, he's just a racer's racer and I think he's one of those guys that said like, hey, if you would have put him in a Red Bull or you put him in a Mercedes in some of these times, like he would put him in the McLaren right now he'd be probably one of the best that's out there because he definitely maximizes the car. And as you and I don't know what, you know, he was brought, hired, you know, as a German driver for when this team turns into Audi next year. And I don't know what Audi's gonna be able to have being their own power manufacturer, what that car is going to look like. But it's awesome to see for him. It was kind of crazy in the cool down room as you had Lando and Oscar and it was super awkward. We'll get into more of that later. But you got, you got this guy who's the kind of the adult in the room. You got these two kids that basically, I don't know, they're the spoiled brats that just got everything handed them young. And you got this old grizzled veteran, hey, it's my first time here. And there's just icy tension to these other two kids, whatever. And he's like, yeah, let me just sit back and enjoy myself, you know. And then the first trophy he gets is a trophy made out of Legos. [00:49:14] Speaker B: So, yeah, I actually liked. [00:49:18] Speaker C: Was cool, but it was an awesome moment. I think there was tons of great stuff for the, for the Kick Saber team. Like, even they didn't have any champagne to celebrate. So you had Mercedes and Aston Martin sending champagne over to them, to their team and everything to be able to celebrate because, hey, this team, this team comes in, everyone like, yeah, we're just trying to get ninth or tenth place, guys. [00:49:36] Speaker A: Cool. [00:49:37] Speaker C: We're not. We don't get any. We don't got any champagne on tap. [00:49:40] Speaker A: They don't have none on ice, let's put it that way. They don't keep it on chill. [00:49:43] Speaker B: It makes sense. Yeah. [00:49:45] Speaker C: So. So it was three stories. So that's. I would say that was the best start of the weekend. Number two, I think Lando winning the British Grand Prix is home Grand Prix can't understate, like how, how much that means to some of those drivers, like, you know, especially, you know. Oh, yeah, Formula Formula One is. There's a. There's always talk about a British bias to Formula One. It's really a British centric sport. A lot of the teams are there. And so, you know, growing up in England, it's probably two things. You want to be a soccer player or you want to be a race car driver. And I think that's kind of winning at Silverstone is like, is one of those highlights is the highest. This is the one race that you want to win in front of your home crowd and everything. And I think that was just awesome for Lando because when I was there last year, Lewis Hamilton won. It was one of the best races ever. It was actually the best. According to the F1 page, the last year's British Grand Prix was voted the best British Grand Prix ever. But Lando kind of should have won last year, but they had some pit timing and stuff like that. And so him winning this year was. Was awesome to have that story. But out of all that, the number one story was the 10 second penalty for Oscar Piastri and really just changing the race and the. And really who should have won this race between Oscar and Lando. Oscar had the better qualifying time, albeit by like thousands of a second. [00:50:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it was so tiny. [00:50:58] Speaker C: Yeah, it was so tight. But at one point in the race, Oscar had like a 17 second lead in the race, was just driving away with this thing. And because of all the. The weather and the, you know, incidents on the track, it brought out the safety cars. And in this instance, in the safety car, you had Oscar in first, you had Max for Stapping in second and Lando in third. At that time in the race, you have a safety car. Pull out some debate that the safety car made its intentions late. But as soon as the safety cars lights went out, Oscar goes on the brakes, goes 100 miles an hour slower, goes from 132 miles an hour down to 30 miles an hour and pretty much almost break chaps Verstappen and the rest of the field. Verstappen flies by him, which you're not supposed to pass, you know, while the race is still under caution technically. And the stewards looking at that decided that, hey, this was an unsafe maneuver and gave Oscar a 10 second penalty. The consensus around, I think, in the Formula One community is that this was a way too harsh of a penalty for me, though. I hate this crap in restarts. And I think they need to get this under control because if you had this the other way, if he would have stopped and Verstappen would have stopped. What the leader of the race does, as far as pacing the field, they do erratic things like this because you never know when they're going to take off. And it gives that first place person who's pacing the field when the safety car goes off kind of a little bit of an advantage of an unfair advantage. Being able to, like, hit the gas and get a good jump on the guys. And when you break, check it like this. As you're changing the speed, basically, what behind the race. I hate that in racing. It's one of my biggest things that I dislike. And it was, it was seen at that point, like, I'm second place and you just go from 132 down to 30 out of nowhere. Because the safety car goes up. I think it really changes, you know, what's going on. And Verstappen ends up spinning out right after this on the restart because it's, you know, it's all jacked up. He goes down to 10th and somehow, you know, battles back into getting fifth like Verstappen always does. But it was just a crazy scene. Oscar, most personality I've seen from the guy. You know, he doesn't get any emotion for winning a race, but he was pissed and he basically was letting everyone know it. He was, you know, he's trying to tell Nico Hulkenberg, you know, who's got his first podium in this thing, like, did you believe what they did to me? I should have won this race. You know, Nico's just trying to enjoy. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Nico's like, damn. I, I finally get in the podium in the cool down room, and this is the. I gotta hear, God damn. That's what he's thinking. God damn. [00:53:24] Speaker C: And the most hilarious thing. And I, and I, I like Oscar. I, you know, and I think it's an interesting battle between Lando and I've roma every week. This is Lando's year to win. He's got to win this year. He's got to put it down. Oscar, I don't think he could have looked any worse on the radio asking. [00:53:40] Speaker B: His team a switch. [00:53:42] Speaker C: If you don't think this was a good penalty, we should switch back. Like, come on, man. Like, you got the penalty. You may disagree with it, but you want to hand this victory over to a person that had nothing to do with it. Lando was at third and third at the time. So that was, it was a crazy ass like, from Oscar at that point in the race. And I know he's in, he's in the cockpit in the moment, you know, feels like he's getting robbed of a win. And now the driver's championship is just, you know, we were talking a couple weeks ago, did Lando blow it? Yeah. In Canada, we were talking to Lando blow it because he tried to pass Oscar with, you know, a stupid move there. And we're like, he's gonna do. Yeah. Oh, he'd be totally up right now. It'd be there. [00:54:22] Speaker B: So five points back. [00:54:23] Speaker C: Now he is seven points back, I believe. [00:54:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:26] Speaker C: So, you know, so it's, it's close enough between a first and second finish right now of like, like you said, halfway through. It's, it's a McLaren championship for the constructors that's over. We're focused on a duel or a duel for first. McLaren can let these guys have it out because they're going to win the constructors regardless. And so that these Saturday is going to be so important because who gets the prime strategy going into the race and it's gonna, it's gonna pay dividends and then. No, what are the mistakes down the stretch that these guys make? You want to be in the front of the field. You don't want to have a bad qualifying and be down in 10th and having to fight through traffic and get caught up in accident. That can be a potential, hey, 25 point swing in the points because Lando qualifies six and he's got to pass some dues and like Kimi Antonelli smashes into the side of him or something like that. You never know. So it'll be very interesting down the stretch between these two guys, but the tension's definitely there after this race. [00:55:20] Speaker B: Building. That's building. [00:55:21] Speaker C: It's, it's building. [00:55:22] Speaker A: It's good drama. Drama. [00:55:25] Speaker C: It's great drama. So, man, I would say this, it was a hell of a British Grand Prix. I will say the saddest part for me is the Lewis Hamilton fan. Ferrari looks fantastic in practice. [00:55:34] Speaker B: Fourth again. [00:55:35] Speaker C: I thought that and I thought they're going to bring it. Lewis got fourth. I thought he was going to pass Nico. I was a little bit conflicted at that moment. Lewis had 12 straight podiums at the British Grand Prix and as I want to extend this streak, but him passing Nico, taking away from what would have been rough. So, yeah, Ferrari, man, they got, they still got works to do. There's still a clown show over there somehow. Still second the constructors, but they definitely don't have any handles on this car right now. And honestly, at this point, what are they doing to prep for 2026? Because that's going to be the key, like which team is coming out of 2026 with the new regulations, with a new car on the best foot. It's over for this year for, for McLaren's got this. How are you prepping for next year? [00:56:17] Speaker B: Well, I think we congratulate Hamilton for getting his, his best show last week or the week prior. The Austrian. So he matches out with fourth place. I have a few things to add. But Aaron, I don't know if you want to add your 2 cents real quick. [00:56:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, going back to Ferrari. Ferraris, I think Jason talked about on the last one, like something's still off. They're not quite clicking. But Rome, like you mentioned, they are getting better. Like, you know, they've had a few podium finishes with Charles, but he really struggled. I mean he really struggled in this race. He was all over the place. But a lot of guys were. I mean, you didn't see the race Rome, but I mean I. I thought we were. I thought this was like jet skis for a while there. Because I literally just get water thrown right in the face. And I mean you had, you know, antonella get hit like Jason said. And he just basically gets, you know, car damage. Got to get out of the, you know, the race piastri. I mean the 10 second penalty, you know, harsh. Do you think it should have just been five seconds, Jason? I mean. Or no penalty? I mean. [00:57:19] Speaker B: So reviews are mixed. [00:57:20] Speaker A: Kind of reverted back to George Russell in Canada. Obviously the. The speed difference was a lot less, but no penalty. Now you go from no penalty to 10. It seemed excessive to me, But I think the stewards are sending it. They're sending a message that, hey, don't pull this anymore or you're going to lose a race. Basically X was kind of. [00:57:40] Speaker B: On both sides. Some people thought it was harsh. Some people were all for. It seems like red Bull. A lot of teams were like, yeah, he deserved it. Him. [00:57:49] Speaker C: I. I think a penalty definitely needed to be served. [00:57:52] Speaker B: And I. [00:57:53] Speaker C: And the FIA just screws himself with like where they. Because the. A 10 second penalty was given Verstappen after he rammed into the side of George Russell, you know, a couple weeks ago too. And this one didn't cause any damage. So that's like, like that's the argument of what's the consistency of the 10 seconds. I think a penalty should have been there because when you looked at it, you're talking 100 mile an hour difference in braking. Like going into like the final turn to me is. Is a significant stoppage. And Oscar kept saying it's what I always do. I was always do. But in these conditions and what you're doing at that point. And I hate this part in racing. I see it in NASCAR and IndyCar too. Like what the. What the leader does is trying to drag the field and going up there, There should be some minimum, you know, rules they put in place. But 10, I will say the middle ground to me is yeah, maybe. Maybe it's a five second penalty, but he, to me, definitely should have been given the penalty. [00:58:38] Speaker A: I. I agree. A penalty should have. I would have said five. I think five would have added more drama where he was at in position wise. I mean, Verstappen, as you mentioned, like, literally, like a couple turns later, went from second to 10. Lando goes into second and was roughly back and forth between three to five, three to six seconds behind, you know, Oscar Pitts. They have to wait 10 seconds before they can change the tires out, go to the slicks, and then by then he's already, you know, four or five seconds behind Lando again. I mean, Jason touched on it. I don't blame Oscar for asking for the switch. I don't blame Lando for not doing it. I mean, it's your own Grand Prix. You didn't make. You didn't do the mistake yourself. You take the win. If you're Oscar. Jason said he was up. He was, he was dominating. He was up 17 seconds in the field. I mean, when you're up 17 seconds seconds ahead of the next guy, what, 20 laps in, that's dominating a race in F1, especially at that point. So I don't blame Oscar for saying, hey, like, I was dominating this race. He does kind of pull those stunts. I don't like how, like the safety car comes out. And we saw that, you know, in Canada where George Russell stopped, Verstappen passed him, then asked for the penalty. There wasn't. Verstappen was asked about Oscar getting a penalty. He was like, I don't know. And then, you know, well, 10 seconds, pretty harsh. But I mean, I agree. I mean, but I get Oscar saying, hey, this is what he always does. I mean, it is what these guys do. They stop. 100 mph stop is a little excessive. But trying to heat the tires back up, trying to get that head start, to get that thing going again. 10 seconds was a little harsh for penalty. I would like to have seen five. I think it would add in more drama towards the end of the race. But, you know, Lando gets the win, Oscar second. I think the story obviously is Nico getting third. Happy to see that, man. I mean, just the team, everybody celebrating. I mean, it was almost like, you know, when you watch March Madness and you get like that Cinderella upset. It felt like that. Like this was a Cinderella upset in F1. Coming from 19th and qualifying and finishing third to be the first time in 15 years on the podium. It was actually a good feeling to see that as we ended that race on Sunday morning. [01:00:44] Speaker B: I was trying to find the stat though. I guess. So Nico Hulkenberg. Is that how you say it? [01:00:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:50] Speaker B: So he has. He's had the longest F1 career to finally hit podium at 191. Is that what it is? [01:00:58] Speaker C: Pretty starts. I think it was something like that. [01:00:59] Speaker A: 239, I think. 239 they said. And he's been in the sport what, 15 years? [01:01:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And bro Carlos's signs record. I guess science had the record previously of having 100 races before getting his first podium. But I guess I. I don't know much about him. But just in general with other racers they just think Nico has always been like a top five driver. He's just never gotten the right situation to kind of, kind of showcase that. So it seems like just everyone's happy for him in general. It's kind of cool. [01:01:34] Speaker C: It was like seeing Max Verstappen being the first person like when Neo got out of the car there to greet him and congratulate him. And I think just the respect of the drivers because like, like, like I was saying earlier, like he just has another car and he's been a drive. You could tell how good of a driver is because he's taken these bottom tier teams with cars and he has optimized what they do in a race to finish in points places in Haas last year. What he's done this year with, with. I mean he's top 10 in the points right now. I think for a team that didn't score any points last season. And he is top 10 in the points right now. [01:02:06] Speaker B: That's crazy. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah. It looks like he's number nine. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's awesome. What else was I gonna talk about? [01:02:16] Speaker C: Well, if you can't remember, I'll give you a second room because we went off the air last week and Aaron asked me the question about Max Verstappen going to Mercedes. And then like a day later it started breaking out. That there, there is that this interest there. And you know, as I was publishing. [01:02:30] Speaker B: The pot, it came out pretty much. [01:02:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:33] Speaker A: So like I said, I think I mentioned before, Jason continues that I think Rome leaked. Might have leaked that pod to some people. And that that's why I got out 100. [01:02:43] Speaker C: 100 probably leaked out there. We were first on it. But no, it's. It's been long rumored Toto Wolf's admiration for Max. Obviously Max has a contract with Red Bull for next season. But there's a bunch of opt outs that no one but Max And Red Bull know about. There's this interesting situation with George Russell. Obviously if I'm George Russell I'm a little pissed off because hey, like you guys aren't taking care of me right now. You're flirting, you're flirting with this other girl over here while I like I'm right here. I'm great, I'm one of the best drivers in the world. But George just has it go his way like he got promoted to the Mercedes team and the team hasn't been as good as they were during the heyday with Botas and Hamilton with the dominant car they had. And so it's extremely interesting situation. You know I like we talked about last week it's probably Verstappen or Russell but I mean part of me, part of me. This has been floated out there too. If Total Wolf can get Russell and Verstappen and then he kind of like lends out Antonelli to you know Alpeen or one of these other teams for the lower teams for a little while that may be interested. It'd be, it'd be a major coup for Mercedes having those two guys in the time. I don't think it'll happen but you know I think it's going to be a one or the other because if Verstappen goes to Mercedes I think George Russell turns around and goes straight to Red Bull. I think, I think it's a switch. Yeah, I think it's switch. I think, I don't think Christian Horner wastes any time. I think those are two British guys that are probably made for each other. They're both high end, high end British citizens there between, between George. They both, I think they both think they're James Bond between Christian Hoarder and George Russell. Yeah. So. But I don't know a lot, a lot going on there. Max was getting tired of ask, getting asked the questions while he was out there. I think George is getting tired of ask the question. So I, I don't know what we're waiting for. You got a couple week break right here now. So I think you're going to see some, you'll potentially see some movement happen before the next race in Spa because the other thing is Franco Cala Pinto, the other rumors out there too that this was his last race is that Alpine's already going to discard him. He hasn't done anything since he replaced Jack Doohan. [01:04:51] Speaker A: Get Jack doing back out there. My boy Jack, get him back in. [01:04:53] Speaker C: I think, I think Jack deserves another shaft. But the rumor is that Valtteri Bottas, the Mercedes reserve driver, that they, they want to get him and see, you know, get a person that can see what this car has in the last 12 races of the season. So. And then other rumors out there as well too. You still got Cadillac in the mix. They still have not signed any drivers. And so Sergio Perez, Joe Blanu, who else we got out there potentially? Yuki Sonoda. There's a lot of stuff with Cadillac right now of two additional seats next year that are kind of up for grabs. And who's their interest in it? [01:05:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like you said, wild. I mean, I think George Russell, Max Verstappen, straight up trade. I think that makes a lot of sense. You floated out last time on the pod, Jason, that Verstappen could just walk away, he could just retire. Yeah. How much does he, you know, is he getting frustrated with everything that's going on? [01:05:48] Speaker B: Video game kind of. [01:05:49] Speaker A: You know, Rome says he wants to race Verstappen on a little E game going on there, virtual style, so we'll see. But Mercedes wants Verstappen. I mean, George Russell, I think, you know, him and Verstappen, you know, they kind of have their own little feud together, so I don't know how teammates would work, but yeah, I mean, Red Bull switching with Verstappen, George Russell makes a lot of sense, man. I'd be down to see it. [01:06:17] Speaker B: Sure. [01:06:18] Speaker C: It'd be crazy. It had way more drama. It'd be an interesting end of this season too, if they both are signed on and they got 12, 12 races of awkward silence going on between, you know, those two garages here to end the season. [01:06:31] Speaker A: I mean, from crashing into buddies on the racetracks, anything can happen, man. [01:06:36] Speaker C: Well, there's, there's all these weird things you're picking up too, because yet Antonelli given the slipstream to Verstappen during qualifying, that basically gave Verstappen the poll. [01:06:46] Speaker A: Well, wait, wait. He, he, Jason, he owed him. He took him out. He took out the last race. So this was an iou. He told them. The cameras didn't pick it up, but our sources did. He told Verstappen, I got you next week. I got you. That's all I can say. [01:07:02] Speaker C: Gave him the slipstream, even. Even though Red Bull, you know, gave Verstappen the smallest wing possible so it could not do anything in the turns. Rom, did you see the F1 movie yet? You talked about Mission Impossible. You haven't seen the F1 movie? [01:07:14] Speaker B: Oh, no, I got, I got to Go. But everyone's telling me to go see an imax. [01:07:18] Speaker C: You definitely have to. It's in the trailer. Have you seen the trailer to the movie? [01:07:22] Speaker B: I have. [01:07:23] Speaker C: Okay, so, you know, in the trailer, Brad Pitt's character Sonny Hayes is sitting down with the technical, the arrow director, the female character. And you know, it's, it's the, it's the first line of the original trailer came out a year ago. And he's basically like, you know, Aston Martin, McLaren Red Bull, Mercedes, you know, they all got, they all got the power in the straight line seed. I need a car built for combat, you know. And so basically the joke was this last weekend is like, yeah, the Red Bull, it was all straight line speed. It was not built for combat because this thing had no turning ability inside, inside this, any of the corners because the wing was so small and was max and was just getting destroyed in every corner. [01:08:01] Speaker B: I gotta watch that. That's hilarious though. [01:08:04] Speaker C: Gotta watch it. But Rome, you just mentioned F1. I know we're gonna move on right now, but, you know, we spent an hour talking about NBA free agency. You had another triple header for the, for the auto enthusiasts out there yet. IndyCar in Ohio right after that. And you had Alex Palo, the front runner, Indy 500 champion, uncharacteristic messes up, three laps to go, gives the lead up to his teammate because he had slipped and drove off the track. Scott Dixon, 42 years old, IndyCar legend, has now won an IndyCar race in like 20 something straight seasons. So that was awesome in Mid Ohio. And then you had the Chicago street race for NASCAR going on at the same time. Don't know if you caught any of that. [01:08:50] Speaker B: The seven car crash. [01:08:53] Speaker C: Oh, I think that was Chris Buescher potentially on that. I, I didn't, I, I mean, I'll be honest, I missed a little bit of the beginning. [01:08:59] Speaker B: I watched the biggest part. [01:09:02] Speaker C: Well, you know, a little controversy with nascar with me. I'm going to tell you about this stuff too, because you had. Shane Van Ginsburg has now won another race. [01:09:11] Speaker B: He won the making up words. [01:09:13] Speaker C: Now I'm just, I'm making up guys from. Just for you. [01:09:15] Speaker B: It's not like a video game. [01:09:17] Speaker C: Well, he's a road course specialist. You know, he, he worked in stuff, so he got hired in nascar. And the goofy, I'll tell you, the NASCAR purists, which I'm not, I'm not gonna say I'm a purist, but I love the old NASCAR scoring system. Now if you win a race roam in nascar, you're automatically in the playoffs. So these guys that come into NASCAR as road course specialists, they win one race, they're crap at all the ovals and then win this race, they're automatically in the NASCAR playoffs. So now you got a guy who's won two road course races. He's like the fifth ranked guy in the NASCAR playoff standings, but he's like 27th overall in the regular season standings, but he's automatically in. [01:09:55] Speaker B: That's weird. [01:09:55] Speaker C: So a lot of complaints about this stuff where we get these kind of road circuit drivers in NASCAR just locking up and not successful. And so a little bit of a controversy with, with that in the nascar, but an interesting street race in Chicago. So like I said, I mean there was a whole racing day. I know you woke up late, but there, there was, there was a lot of racing to watch on, on the TV this fourth of July weekend. [01:10:15] Speaker B: I didn't wake up too well. [01:10:17] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:10:19] Speaker C: Listen, ever since we started this journey, Aaron knows like pretty much 7am on a Sunday. You're gonna get Crofty going. Lights out and away we go. And you know, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron's up for it. You know, you just, you're living that city lifestyle. You just, you just can't, you can't get that 7am racing. [01:10:36] Speaker A: I mean we got blessed of a 7am we had a lot of 6ams going off there for a while. So you know, our extra sleep we got, we got spoiled. [01:10:45] Speaker B: You know, I think I woke up like at 6:30. I was dehydrated, knocked out like 64 ounces of water, went back to sleep. [01:10:55] Speaker A: And then woke up and had to take a piss like a racehorse after that for sure. [01:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah. No, no. Yeah. No. It was really interesting following all the, all the X stuff with Piastri. Whether he deserved it or not, it was definitely a mixed bag in public opinion. And then some people even blaming Verstappen for making it look even worse for him. [01:11:14] Speaker A: Just passing, embellishing it. Yeah. Yeah. [01:11:16] Speaker B: So that like you never know. Like a lot of people say at least what I'm catching now on all the message boards and the social media versus there's Verstappen pulls a lot of that you only do when you race online professionally and, and that's the way he drives in real life. So I don't know now I'm starting to pick up on those things. I'm trying to, trying to pay more attention but I know I thought Lionel Norris still deserved to win. So. Happy for that next race when's that three weeks out? [01:11:53] Speaker C: Yeah. A little bit of a summer break we got going right now. So not until July 27th do we have the Belgian Grand Prix in Spa, which is, you know, one of the great tracks in motorsports. Awesome. Once you get the F1 game Rome, you'll love. You'll love racing in Spa. [01:12:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Xbox or PlayStation? [01:12:16] Speaker C: I'm a PlayStation guy. [01:12:17] Speaker B: All right, Aaron, Just get both. [01:12:19] Speaker A: I'm. I'm an Xbox guy. [01:12:21] Speaker B: God damn it. So torn. [01:12:25] Speaker C: Well, you get to break the tie, I guess for the official gaming system of sources from the sofa. [01:12:30] Speaker A: Or you just get both. There you go. [01:12:33] Speaker B: Sounds There you go. [01:12:35] Speaker A: It'd be a real gamer. [01:12:36] Speaker B: No, that's. That's it. And we covered a lot. I do want to announce though, I feel like it's time for us to do a MLB preview coming soon. The time is now. There's not a lot going on. [01:12:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean we got the All Star game break coming up, so that'd be a good time to do it. Second half preview All Star Game. [01:13:00] Speaker B: I think we're also going to do some. I'm not sure if you guys want to do it, but I. I'm lining up some. Some WNBA action as well. I want to catch her some of that. I think they're getting an All Star break soon and want to. Want to catch. Catch up on the second half of that. [01:13:16] Speaker A: Well, Rome, I. I don't know. You. We were recording but you said you were looking for a third team. I said you've already got one over there in the Valkyries, so. Because your Dodgers and Red Sox suck right now, so. [01:13:28] Speaker B: It's the same sport, dude. [01:13:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:32] Speaker B: Valkyrie. [01:13:33] Speaker C: He's just trying to. Trying to give you something positive. [01:13:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Trying to give you something, man. You're. You're bitching about the Steelers, the Red Sox, the Dodgers, saying you need another team and another sport. I said there you go. Aren't your girls anymore. [01:13:45] Speaker C: He's never experienced losing in his life. He's got all these front runner, really good teams. I'm flying to Chicago in a few days to watch the second worst team in baseball. You know, have a little weekend series here. So just, you know, gotta have faith in the team. See what the new prospects are coming up, you know, three, four years from now. White Sox are going to be great, but I gotta go through the growing pains right now. Rome, I know the Dodgers. [01:14:07] Speaker A: Are they playing the Guardians? Is that what I looked up? [01:14:09] Speaker C: They are playing the Guardians. Yeah. [01:14:10] Speaker A: Who just ended their 12 game losing streak. I'm not mistaken. Tonight. [01:14:16] Speaker C: The whites actually from battling the Rockies in Colorado for the battle of the worst two teams in the league, White Sox. [01:14:21] Speaker B: Why the guardian's so bad right now? I don't get it. [01:14:23] Speaker C: I don't know. We didn't do. [01:14:25] Speaker A: Probably because they're throwing games since their pitchers being investigated for gambling now. [01:14:30] Speaker B: Dude, a lot of weird investigations popping up for like a lot of sports. [01:14:34] Speaker A: Well, baseball's. [01:14:35] Speaker B: We didn't talk about the guy in the NBA. He's what he's signing with Detroit now. He's not. [01:14:42] Speaker A: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it Beasley? [01:14:45] Speaker B: Beasley, yeah. [01:14:48] Speaker A: Well baseball's weird. I don't know how it is for the other sports. Maybe it's for all the sports but baseball allows you to gamble on everything except baseball. But that includes any like minor league or college baseball or anything related. But everything else is like open game for them. I don't know, I don't know what the policies is for, you know, NFL and NBA whether or not you can gamble on other sports. But I think it's not. But baseball. [01:15:12] Speaker B: I don't think so. Yeah, yeah. Now that Beasley stuff though. [01:15:16] Speaker A: Beasley, what did. How that looks bad for him, dude, because he was going to get about a 40 million dollar contract. [01:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah. They wanted to bring him back and it's. The news came out the wrong time. So they didn't even sign him. I forgot who else. [01:15:26] Speaker A: That's why they traded for Duncan Robinson which should be talking about that sign and trade. So they already filled that void. He's not going back to Detroit. [01:15:33] Speaker B: It sucks dude, because he was a nice fit. I like Detroit. And of course someone from X. These guys are like part time undercover cops. They're pulling up some really interesting footage of some game against I think the warriors where there's like a 11 point spread and they can cash. Like the guys talking about the spread and just out of nowhere Beasley's like he's the only one running from one end to the other to score a basket. [01:16:03] Speaker A: Well, I think Beasley, I don't, I don't know if he was doing games but I, I think like most of these guys he's doing like player props. Yeah, I think there's like, you know, whatever. Like one game it was like he had to get three rebounds. He got six. Which hey, I'm all for a player if you want to bet on himself to do better than a player prop. It's one thing to take and do the opposite. [01:16:22] Speaker B: So I think, I think he's to get in trouble, man. [01:16:24] Speaker A: But look at, man, the NBA's fixed. The referees know. The referees know what's going on. The players know what's going on. That's why you always see these shots at the end of the game from three point line. They know the spread. They're trying to F you on the over under. The referees are always calling these bogus fouls. Get you in the penalty to get the game to go over. Everybody knows. [01:16:43] Speaker B: You guys hear about the new NBA rule goes in effect next year. [01:16:47] Speaker A: What is it? [01:16:48] Speaker B: Shots within the last three seconds of the first three quarters do not get counted against a player's individual stats. It goes on the team stats. It only counts to the individual in the fourth quarter and beyond over time. [01:17:03] Speaker C: This is because of them just chucking the ball up at the end of like the. The clock or whatever. [01:17:07] Speaker B: So like people don't have to be worried about ruining their stats because I guess they've been having issues with that. [01:17:12] Speaker A: Is there like performance incentives, like bonuses for like if you shoot below a certain field goal percentage or what? [01:17:17] Speaker B: I think. I think that's why, like sometimes people just don't shoot the ball. Whereas other people, I guess they test it out. And the G League came out okay. So now they're gonna launch it in the NBA. That was weird. Interesting. It just came out at the same time that the government said that Epstein had no files and he list. No list. And he just killed himself. He was not murdered. So yeah, Government working in wonderful ways. Happy fourth of July. There'll be a UFC match at the White House next year. [01:17:55] Speaker A: I don't know if it's going to be next year, but there will be one. That will eventually happen. That will happen. [01:18:01] Speaker B: It's the dumbest thing. All right. Any other final statements? [01:18:07] Speaker C: Nope. Look forward to the long awaited MLB preview. [01:18:10] Speaker B: I'm looking forward to. I'm gonna start doing some homework. [01:18:13] Speaker A: Second half preview. I think it should just be. [01:18:16] Speaker C: Well, I'm looking forward to the Home Run Derby a little bit. You got Cal Raleigh, the Big Dumper. [01:18:21] Speaker B: James Wood, What a Nick. [01:18:23] Speaker C: The Big Dump. The Big Dumper, man. [01:18:25] Speaker B: Kind of weird. You like it, Aaron? [01:18:30] Speaker C: Looking for it. [01:18:32] Speaker A: The Home Run Derby. That's all right. I mean they kind of. They're leaving the rules the same. They kind of been changing the rules up the last. [01:18:38] Speaker B: I hate them changing it so much. [01:18:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of. They got these bonuses if you hit it so far and all that. I don't know what the rules are now this year coming up, but I'll probably tune in a little Bit. They only got, what, three guys confirmed for the Home Run Derby? [01:18:54] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:18:55] Speaker C: I saw three. I. I don't know if I got. [01:18:57] Speaker A: I think it's a Kuna Riley and what, Woods. Right. I saw Alonzo Alonso declined, so. [01:19:05] Speaker C: I don't know. You should. He needs to find a swing. He should be doing it. [01:19:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So usually there's what, six or eight participants in it, so usually eight, I think. Yeah. [01:19:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Bummed that. [01:19:16] Speaker A: Surprisingly, you got Soto and Betts not even in the All Star Game. And then. Then your guy Kershaw gets the. Like, a special nominee to get in, which I don't mind. That's fine with me. But I don't know why Soto's not in. I mean, the guy's on the tear right now. [01:19:28] Speaker B: Why do you get a special nominee? Is this like, his last year? [01:19:31] Speaker A: Last year, I think. Yeah. [01:19:34] Speaker C: Things like the commissioners, commissioner's honorary list or whatever. [01:19:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:40] Speaker A: Well, it's, what, this 18th year in the league. Kershaw, I mean, yeah, Kershaw's. He's running out of steam, man. But I don't. I don't mind him getting the. He doesn't look too bad. I'm still waiting for an IL stint from him again before the season's over. [01:19:54] Speaker B: Well, for sure. [01:19:54] Speaker C: As long as he's. They just need them ready for October. Man, your Dodgers need pitchers in October. [01:19:59] Speaker A: They're getting glass now back. I think he comes back Wednesday. [01:20:05] Speaker B: Yeah, they got like 10 guys in the IL, so they got a lot. [01:20:08] Speaker A: Of pictures on the IL, so it'll be interesting to see what they do. We'll talk about it next week or whatever. The trade deadline coming up here, basically the end of this month. So. [01:20:18] Speaker B: Paul Skins. [01:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah. I'd ask for a lot from Pittsburgh. [01:20:22] Speaker C: I don't think they're training him anytime soon. [01:20:24] Speaker B: They shouldn't. [01:20:26] Speaker A: They shouldn't. But they're going to have to buy something eventually. [01:20:29] Speaker B: They will not do. That's what they do. [01:20:32] Speaker C: He has, what, five, five, six more years of control? [01:20:37] Speaker A: At least four or five. Yeah. [01:20:39] Speaker C: That's the thing with baseball. [01:20:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:41] Speaker C: You'd be looking where you're trading them, like, two years of control, maybe three. Because that's like, hey, I gotta give you, like, 10 prospects, your entire farm system for this guy. [01:20:54] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, they're gonna eventually have to. Right. Because they're not going to pay him or he's probably not going to take a deal with them because they don't. They're not. They don't have the money in the team to win around them. Pittsburgh hasn't been good and God, seems like forever, but I mean, yeah, I mean, I. I would start floating his name out or at least taking calls and see what you can get from the Dodgers. I mean, the Dodgers, we know Rome, great farm system. Start. Start with the top name and work your name down. Work yourself down. Because, I mean, they could offer Paul skeens right now 150, 160 million. He's probably not going to take that deal. [01:21:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but something's wrong with, like, the medical for, like, the pitching of the Dodgers. Every guy that goes over gets hurt. [01:21:36] Speaker A: Well, weird. Well, the thing is, they sign guys that are always hurt. I mean, Blake Snail's been hurting a lot. Glass Malice hurt from Tampa Bay. The rookie guy, Sioki, they got, he had shoulder problems coming over. So, I mean, it's too bad. [01:21:50] Speaker B: Like, it's not like hockey where, like, they just stay on the Il doesn't count towards the cap. [01:21:54] Speaker A: Well, there is no cab in baseball. The Dodgers don't care about a cap anyways. In fact, you know, as bad as the Dodgers were this weekend, they should be giving a refund back to all the fans that showed up watching that 181 shellacking on Friday there. Yeah, that was some fireworks. And it came from Houston, by the way. [01:22:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I hate Houston. All right. And these Giants fans are starting to get a little vocal around here. Not liking that either. All right, I'll do it for the pod. We'll catch you guys later.