Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: Let's get this show on the road. Jason and Aaron in the studio now. Now that all the Monday night football games are done.
Ravens destroyed the Bucks 41 to 31. But it wasn't even that close as the Bucks scored 21 in the final frame. And then what was considered, I guess, an NFL game. It should have been a Thursday night game. Chargers kind of blew an opportunity to be a four two, and they let the Cards slip through. 1715. Kyle Murray takes off for a large 44 yard touchdown run. That game was ugly. I didn't watch too much because it. I didn't watch any of it, actually, because those on ESPN plus. But, Aaron, you did, so give us a four one one.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: Well, like you said, rome, pretty ugly. I mean, it's hardball football, right? I mean, five field goals from Dick or the kicker?
[00:00:58] Speaker A: Dick or the kicker? What a fucking name.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Franchise record 59 yard field goal. Five for five. I mean, he's lived up to the hype for sure. I think he's, career wise, only missed three or four kicks in his three years in the league. And James Connor, great game. Ex steeler man. He was running hard. I mean, he. I'd like to see the stats on how many Charger tackles they had missed. But just off him alone, I'm going to say 15 to 20. I mean, every run, it seemed like three or four guys were bouncing off him. They get a dumped down pass there. He breaks three tackles, gets them inside the red zone, and they hit the game winning field goal. Like you mentioned, Rome. Tough loss for the Chargers. Chance go to four and two coming up. They got a favorable schedule, four of their next five at home. Cardinals needed that win. Scrappy win. Kyler Murray. Big run there in fourth quarter, but, yeah, Chargers let one get away for sure.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, Chargers couldn't dick her down on the Cardinals.
That's all I got to say.
[00:01:58] Speaker B: Digged her down, but couldn't hold her down, you know?
[00:02:03] Speaker A: Okay, so let's go to the real game. It seems like every one of these double Monday night football games, one's good, one bad.
Ravens was actually a fun game. It's just Baker Mayfield. I sent you guys a text. Look like a baker with all these damn turnovers. That must be his favorite pastry. Uh, just looking like my dog, you know, when he goes in the trash, and then I yell at him, like, hey, what the hell is going on, bro? And then he just blinks his little dumb little eyes. Little terrier. Maltese mix. Fucking lost. That's the way Baker looks in this press conference right now. Dumb interception. The end zone in the right hand corner. I believe that's like the end of the first quarter or something like that. And then another stupid one. They were driving down the field. They were moving the ball really nicely. That second interception, though, seemed like it kind of killed their momentum. He just looked like a deer in the headlights. I know on the manning cast they were just saying like, this guy doesn't give a shit if he, if he has a turnover, he's just going to not think twice. And he's like that Brett Favre gunslinger thing, but really underwhelming in the first half as far as, you know, point production. They had a chance to go up, you know, two or three touchdowns and then missed opportunities there. And Baltimore capitalized Derek Henry. Another dominant game. Lamar Jackson killed it. Five touchdowns for the yard run as well.
Ravens looking the part of a Super bowl contender.
[00:03:21] Speaker C: Yeah, well, we're just going to blow past Rome auditioning his new segment of dad joke of the week for Baker. But, but, yeah, the Ravens, you know, started Owen two bad loss to the Raiders. Really, that the kind of the opening night loss. It was what it was, it was, it was a competitive game, you know, AFC championship rematch with, with the Chiefs and knowing someone's got to win that game and they were, you know, a foot away from tying the game. And then the Raiders lost, I think took us by surprise because that was the type of Ravens bounce back and they're like, okay, what's this team going to do? They've responded five straight. They've looked dominant. You know, they are probably their top three team in the league right now.
You know, probably number two, maybe number one, if you're asking Rome, because we, Rome doesn't consider the Chiefs in there even though they're undefeated. I guess we'll get more into that later when Aaron and I do a solo chief segment. But, you know, the Ravens looked every bit of the part. Derek Henry's been probably an absolute steal in free agency, 30 years old. Generally when the, when the running back goes downhill in the league and we just give up. But this guy looks like, you know, one of the top three running backs at the league at the same time, too. You know, ESPN on the telecast was doing stuff, and his big run, I don't know, was it 80, 80 plus yards or something like that? And how fast he was literally running is like one of the fastest, you know, open field runs that he's had probably of his career at that point. And he's doing it at, at this age, which, you know, for most people, thirties, young, but for a running back that's basically ancient, past prime, no one believes in him. But I he's turning out to be just every bit of the game changer. He was with Tennessee and now you add, you know, a quarterback in Lamar Jackson, which he didn't have in Tennessee, where the offense was all on him. Now there's tons of weapons around this guy to make him even more effective. And you know, they're going to be, they're going to be a real problem. Obviously, health pending as we've seen with the Buccaneers later in this game and how much health could potentially ruin the rest of their season. But health pending for the Ravens. They look every bit of the part, but this is what you get from the Ravens. John Harbaugh always has this team ready. They're always a perennial playoff contender and ready to team, you know, to take the next step. It's just been a constant. When is Lamar going to get the team out of there? Last year was maybe that step they took to the AFC championship game. This could be the year potentially they take that next step to the Super bowl.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: Yeah, Jason, I mean, ESPN clock Derek Henry at 21.7 mph on that 80 1 yd run. And the ironic thing is they were talking about, hey, where has he been? I think going into the fourth quarter he was under 40 yards and then literally finishes the night with 169 on only 15 touches. So averaging 11.3 yards per carry. Yeah, I think Baltimore is a scary team for the league because they started the year out like Jason said. Oh, and two tough loss at Thursday night opener against Casey and then they lose the game to the Vegas Raiders, a game that they were of double digits. Classic Ravens. We've seen them below or almost, you know, lose a ton of double digit leads, but now the offense is getting Derek Henry involved. Now, you know, that was the first game, second game. Now we're seven games in. Mark Andrews, who was basically a no show the first month, three td's over the last two games. He's emerged as Jackson's top target, like he has been throughout Jackson's tenure there in Baltimore. They got speed with Bateman and flowers on the outside. The old line seems to be coming together. The defense, which was the top defense in the league last year, still ranks middle of the pack right now. I, I'd like to see what that looks versus like when garbage time where they're just giving up yardage and points. What they look through the first three quarters, it looked pretty dominant. Mayfield had a good game going early but like Rome said, you know, two back to back possessions ending in turnovers, interceptions. Baltimore from there on, just took control of the game, never let their gas off the pedal and, you know, gets the five and two.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Roquan Smith on the Ravens kind of dominating in the middle, just like the way other Ravens of past have done so as well.
Yeah. Ravens now five and two tie with the Steelers atop the division.
As we mentioned before the season started, we mentioned this podcast. I want to go replay our, our first two part episode. We did mention week seven. Week eight is when we start finding out who's who in the NFL. And I think this week we finally saw the separation of who's the cream of the crop and who's dumpster fire. So maybe later on we kind of talk about who are the real Super bowl contenders. And also we got to get five.
[00:07:56] Speaker B: We got to get Rome's top five. Later on we will get my new top five. I'm curious what it is because I have no clue.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: This is really tough.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: I'd bid on it.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: I think after week eight I'm just going to do a top eight because this one was tough, man. I got to do a top eight. This just.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: Well, let me know when you go to six, seven, eight so I can unplug my headphones. I have no interest in hearing it.
[00:08:14] Speaker A: You'll be like my friend's dad, you know, once a female announcer comes on. Just unplug, put on mute.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: Exactly. I'll go to the fridge and have her make me a sound real quick.
[00:08:24] Speaker C: While you got you walking off when Rome goes to his top eight and then Rome walking off when we talk about the number one team, which is the Chiefs.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: So I don't think Rome not even having the top five.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: I didn't want to. I didn't want to. I really didn't want to. But I feel like I have to. Hey, I did it because I have to. Otherwise I. Yeah, they're not in my top five at all. Yeah. But nonetheless, fun game. Let's recap the rest of the NFL cause it was a hell of a week. But real quick, though, before we move on, I guess this was a real big week of injuries. This was huge. Mandeh lots of guys went down. Hutchinson went down last year.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: Last week. Last week.
[00:09:03] Speaker A: Yeah, last week. Detroit didn't miss a beat. Obviously they need somebody else. We'll get to that a little bit. But just in this game we saw Evans go down, might be out a week or two, maybe a little bit longer. God, win his leg just fractured. It looks like he's done for the year and from what I saw, I guess they're like some of the leading guys in the NFL for receiving touchdowns and catches as well. So big loss for the Bucks. I had them winning this division, but if they don't have those two guys, they're in deep shit and the Falcons have an opportunity to kind of take it away.
Other big injuries. We also saw Deshaun Watson, much of the chartering of the fans, lots of booze and cheers. He ruptured his Achilles. Kind of fitting for him to do that as well. Browns might be happy because I think that's what they've been playing him anyways. Right. So unfortunately, on a week that they did not suit up, Jamis Winston, you know.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, real me talking about the.
[00:10:00] Speaker C: Tornado, Jamie James still played. James played, yeah. I mean he was, he was the emergency quarterback, but still came out to play.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Yeah, your boy DTR from UCLA got in there, but, yeah, I mean, but.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: Then he got hurt.
[00:10:14] Speaker B: Deshawn. Deshaun Watson, man, you know, having to cut back on the masseuse and massages. The calf got tightened and then the achilles popped. You know, that's sometimes how it goes.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: Well, he'll be getting a lot more massages now because that kill is going to need it, but his career might be done. He might be done as a Brown.
What other big injuries happen this week? Oh, the naive iuk I. You tore his ACL. Correct.
[00:10:37] Speaker B: And Mcl.
[00:10:38] Speaker A: And Mcl. He's dumped the year after he missed all of preseason to kind of get that receiver one money when I don't think he deserved it and he's been playing like shit and then he's done any other ones?
[00:10:53] Speaker C: Debo, not flu.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: Pneumonia.
[00:10:57] Speaker C: Yeah, pneumonia. So not football related, but no timeline for his return either.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: So in the hospital? In the hospital.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: In the hospital, yeah.
[00:11:05] Speaker C: And then I still week to week on this, but Jaden Daniels going down as well too, you know, with the, I think it was ribs. I don't know if I heard this extent of it yet, but he was still a week to week. So whether he's going to be in the lineup against the Bears this week and what was going to be kind of the, you know, game of the week on Fox or CB's in the afternoon slot of Bears versus commanders for the number one versus number two overall pick basing off each other, that was a big injury this week, too.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah, and I just saw what Williams Williamson for the Lions just got suspended two games.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: So he speaker two performance announcing drugs.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: Wild. Yes. Lots, lots of big injuries. Just trying to see that toll. So we'll see how that affects the races. Moving on.
[00:11:52] Speaker C: Going back to the Browns real quick, I'm still, I know there's a lot of people, and you guys mentioned it being happy about to Sean Watson and we, we talked about it a couple of weeks ago on the pod, but even with him being down, they, they can do nothing but that with his contract. It's a 70 plus million dollar cap. Hit the next, you know, two years on there. So even, even if he's not in the lineup or, you know, Rome saying his career is over, I don't think his Browns career is over because even if he comes back as a shell, they have to keep him because they're not going to be able to afford really anything else besides, you know, maybe what they got in Jamis or some cheap alternatives. But, you know, if the NFL salary cap doesn't go up, this is a team that's not going to be able to afford much with a quarterback that might not even play.
[00:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, Deshawn's gonna be on the roster next year. He may, he may start the season on the pub, physically in a form list, miss the first six games, something of the season next year. But with that guaranteed money, he's gonna go through the rehab, he's gonna be out there, and the Browns are gonna be stuck for him for at least this year and next year on the roster before, you know, deciding what they want to do as far as cap.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: Hit goes, if they're in the public. So that does not count against the cap, right. From what I remember from pass injuries.
[00:13:06] Speaker C: I'm pretty sure everything counts because his is guaranteed money. It's not like some of the other guys because.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: Yes. Not in game or active status.
[00:13:16] Speaker A: Just all, like all free. Well, it is just everyone. Okay. Got it. Maybe we'll do some more research besides that, man, big, big time games. The game of the week was nothing. Niners and Chiefs.
I'm not sure if I want to talk about that game, but we saw some potential conference championship preview, maybe with Lions and Vikings. I thought that was the best game of the week besides Texans being in Green Bay and Packers won there.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: I told you. McManus, packers. Great job signing a new kicker. They absolutely needed it.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Yeah, he came through. Let's start with the Lions and Vikings, though. I thought that was game of the week. That was big time. It was a back and forth, big heavyweight matchup. Donald looked every part of that he, of what he's done so far this season. They look like they can hang there are for real, that was a, as good of a loss as you could have one. And Lions just stepped up. They had the last possession of the game and golf and money. He only had a couple touchdowns, but he only had like three or four incompletions and it was just a fun game overall.
[00:14:27] Speaker C: Yeah, real fun game. Darnold looked good through the interception, though, that, you know, was a kind of a game changer there at the moment. You know, Vikings came out hot. I did. It didn't look good there for the Lions early on, but then they stormed back in the second quarter. I think it was 21 unanswered. You know, going into the half where it's like, okay, are they ready to, to put it on the Vikings? And, you know, I kind of called it. This could be the start of where we start to see where the real Vikings team was and not this team. That's been a surprising five and a start, but they battled back there, made it a game to it, had a really impressive fourth quarter to really get it down to that, you know, three two point margin there at the end. But Vikings got a short week coming up. But Aaron and I have been saying it all year. We'll continue to say it. NSC north, the best division in football right now. You know, four teams above. I think the, the Bears and the Bears are in last place right now at four and two. So there's going to be, continue to be it, but you're going to have a ton of division matchups coming up within that. Within that division. So there's, I think to be a ton more on this to the table. I think, you know, once you get the, you know, Packers, Vikings, Packers, Lions and the Bears playing all three teams, that's going to be like, I don't know, six of the last eight games for the Bears are against interdivision opponents. So it's going to be really interesting as you go down the stretch on how important these games are because potentially there could be three out of four of them making the playoffs. But depending on how these things shake out, they could knock each other out possibly.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: I have a surprise for you guys at my power five, so.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Okay. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, the NFC north, I think, has to be thrilled at what we saw on Monday night with Tampa basically losing Godwin and Evans. That's if those teams can stay healthy and continue to do what they do. Four teams, which has never been done in the football NFL division can get in. I mean, yeah. Detroit, things were looking bad for them early. 100. I mean, the fake punt on fourth and seven. On the fourth drive at your own like 25. I didn't get that. Minnesota was feeding off it. Crowd was fired up quick. 100 lead. They responded back, 21 unanswered. Darnold of that pick there, too, kind of sparked Detroit, like Jason said.
And then you get, you know, the fumble by Montgomery gets returned.
Minnesota goes up one. Golf leads a drive. They get the field goal of 15 seconds.
Good battle in the NFC north, for sure.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think bikes are going to go, go away. That's going to be really fun. Battle throughout that division to see. Let's go to the other one. Packers inching away with the Texans. That was a great game as well.
Packers defense, man, they swarmed the shit out of love all game long. Wasn't a great game from love at all by any means.
[00:17:08] Speaker B: I mean. CJ shroud.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: No, no, I'm talking about love.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: Me, too.
[00:17:12] Speaker C: The Texans. The Texans. Defense on yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Texas defense on love. Love. Didn't have a great game, but they did enough to win. And luckily it was like a shootout in the first half. And I think the second half only saw like a touchdown. Couple field goals in the fourth quarter, trying to pull it up again.
[00:17:32] Speaker C: Yeah, you really had the packers touchdown in the third quarter. That put him ahead and then two, you know, two, two field goals there at the end, at the end of the fourth quarter. So it's, it's, it started locking down in the four in the second half.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, this was my preseason Super bowl matchup. Texans, Packers. I think it lived up to the chapter one, lived up to the hype I did. Coming down to a Brandon McManus field goal late to seal the deal. Love takes chances, man. I mean, he learned from Rogers, so he'll, he'll throw some balls up, 50 50. He's one of these guys that kind of gambles. Texans got one or two picks, missed a few others.
Josh Jacobs, no one's really talking about him, but he's been a big lift in the run games. Some power football, something we haven't seen out of Green Bay in a while in that defense, you know, they did a good job keeping the Texans down to 22 points. Gave themselves a chance in love with that drive. Late. Big win for the packers. Big win because, you know, the Lions, Vikings, bears, no one's going away. I mean, 1213 wins, maybe just to win this division.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I think if anything, Green Bay definitely needed this more. And great call, Aaron on this. You did take this straight up with the packers winning. You did not take the line at two and a half. So smart move, man. You got that victory on this pick. I was just reviewing it earlier today.
[00:18:51] Speaker B: I'm like, well, I, I did make some, I did make some adjustments from the podest.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: Yeah, you do.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: On some pigs for sure. But we did do, we did go five and two over the weekend in the NFL.
[00:19:00] Speaker C: So I went four and one on mine. But Rome doesn't remember which games I pick. So only on my word document do I get the credit for my picks.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I think, I think Jason only lost the jets. Right? We both had the jets.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: You guys had the jets. Yeah. Yes.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: I mean, I switched some games over after reviewing, you know, reviewing some more film after 36 hours. I did change my pick to the lines. I did take the Lions in that one. I took, I changed from the Dolphins to the Colts. I texted, this is all post, should be all posted on Twitter.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Rome, if you post on Twitter.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So. And then I had the Ravens tonight, too.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: Well, that's a different record. That's Aaron's.
[00:19:39] Speaker C: That Aaron's out here moving the lines on the Thursday pod and then coming.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: We're not doing that. We're going by the lines that are on Thursday. But that's a separate record.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: That's a separate line is still pretty much the same and just changed.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I got the tally total. You had seven wins there and you had seven wins, Jason. I had seven wins as well. I stayed away from a lot of games, though, so I didn't have as many losses. But it was a pretty good week in picks, though.
And then, I mean, yeah, we went.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: We went ten and six between college in the NFL for 62 and a half percent. Four straight winning weeks. NFL and college. So I mean, you're not going to find many, you're not going to find many shows or many cappers out there hitting that for sure. And Jason basically on a 13, oh and one hit streak over the last five weeks. I mean, well, just your mortgage on his picks. I don't know what you're doing, but, you know, since we mentioned it might be time to fade him, but I like, I like the direction he's going for. Sure.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Well, we'll start posting Jason's picks as well.
[00:20:39] Speaker C: No, I say it was, I'm 13. One in one. Aaron, I think. What is this? No, 1212 one and two, something like that. This is my first week so I had, I 401 two weeks and then. Yeah, still, I mean, I, I'm not betting these, so these impartial, just lines. I'm just giving money out for free.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: Entertainment purposes only, people.
[00:20:59] Speaker C: Exactly. So, you know, just, I'm just looking at what looks good to me.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: If you buy, if you buy your girl a new necklace, you can thank Jason. If you're late on your rent, you might be able to thank them next week, too. I don't know.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: Okay.
Besides those two games, I think, man, what was the biggest win of the week? Actually.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: Probably Seattle at Atlanta. That was a big win for Seattle.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: That was huge.
[00:21:28] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, there's that. I think if you're Doug Peterson, I think your win in London was pretty big because he probably got to keep his job for at least another four or five more weeks until the bye week. But I think Rome, Steelers, man, I think that was a pretty big win on Sunday Night Football, too, because I'll be honest, in the first half, I was texting a few friends is like, they got to put fields back in. I don't know. You know, Russell threw like a screen pass into the ground and like, it just, it just didn't look like he was going to be able to get the ball down field. And if you're not going to get balls on field, at least you got fields his legs, you know, to complement some of the running game. And then, you know, I think Russell just took a deep shot down the sideline. That was like a 50 50 ball that, you know, the receiver come. Yeah, he was, yeah, pickens able to come down with it, and I was like, oz, it was an underthrown ball, but he was able to get it. And then at that point, I think he, we really just started seeing things open up for him against the jets defense, which, albeit, I think the broadcast was talking about it, that the jets defense is a little shorthanded in the secondary. But, you know, regardless, I. Tomlinde, I mean, Aaron, I've been saying this for, I don't know, has it been like 20 years now? Aaron, I swear, since Tomlin took over that team, and he just knows the right buttons to press. He knows the guys he wants in the field. And he was really using that time with fields to really assess, comparing it to what he saw in the OTAs with Wilson, like, who's going to be really the guy moving forward when they get to these big divisional games? Because the Ravens pretty much just got the six divisional games ahead of them, and it's going to be some bruising games against the Ravens and a Bengals team that's going to want to come back. So they found their guy here going into the, I think the biggest games of the year for the, for the Steelers, and it was pretty impressive. And then, I mean, the Jets, I mean, Devante went from, what, a two and five team to a two and five team at this point like that. So I, I, the best player on the field for the jets to me was, was Brie saw the whole time.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: So, yeah, if, if they could just keep on trading Devontae Adams to whoever the Steelers play next, that'd be great. Cause now we're two and o back to back weeks against the Giants.
[00:23:39] Speaker B: I mean, the Giants want Adams for sure. I mean, yeah, I agree with Jason. I mean, Wilson was looking terrible. Looked like he was playing baseball through the ground. Balls he was throwing in the dirt there on the screen. Passes, fields, they kept showing fields. You know, NBC was like, I don't know. And then Tomlin kind of just, they kept showing Tomlin. He kind of was like, looking up at the big screen, you know, talk. Tom has got a good poker face. I wouldn't want to play poker with that guy because you just don't ever know what he's got, man. You might think he's got like a two and a five and he's got.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Pocket aces even when he's pissed. So, yeah, Russell didn't look too hot. I remember I was watching it with some cousins. I was like, this is what we, that's what we sat feels for. I didn't think Russell did anything too crazy. One thing he does, he's one. They're willing to let him throw the ball down the sidelines and do those 50 50 balls. And when it comes to one on one matchups, Pickens is one of the better receivers in the NFL to do that. And for him, that finally had the opportunity, he looked pretty happy at five receptions for 111 yards or something like that, and touchdown. But the offense. So overall, I guess maybe there's, like, some things behind the scenes as far as, like, comfortability or, like, ease. Like, Russell Wilson just seemed to kind of bring, like, this easiness to the offense and, and, and Smith opened up the playbook, kind of like the way he let fields do against the Colts. He hasn't done that since then. And, but also, Najee Harris is a little healthier. Some guys came back healthy again. I was surprised that they scored 37 points. I think the over under on that was 38. And I stayed away from that game. But, man, you know what? I feel good. I feel pretty happy that Rogers and the jets, although they were my pick to win that division, they're two and five and, you know, fuck them.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: Are they making the playoffs, do you think, guys, or.
[00:25:22] Speaker A: No, I'm not counting them out yet. They, I'm not going to count them out yet, but obviously they, they don't.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: Have, they gotta win eight of their final ten.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah, they gotta win 80% wiggle room. They have the talent. Their defense is not like, even though they're loaded, they're just not cohesive. And they got rid of their defensive guru, man. Without Salah, they've been more than dog shit. And that's kind of what they get. I kind of don't feel bad for them at all.
[00:25:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, when you say, and I don't want to, I'm, look at the schedule guy every time you bring this up, but they don't, I don't know whether it was ranks, but they don't really have a ton of tough opponents. I know the NFL, anything can happen any given Sunday, but I mean, you got New England next week. I think their toughest game that. Cause the weekend after that is in Houston or at home versus Houston. But then you got a Cardinals team, which is about 500. You got a 500 Colts team, Seattle after that at home. So Seattle's got to fly across the country, you know, to play that game. Then they play at Miami, at Jacksonville. A bad Rams team, then Buffalo, maybe a tricky, tricky. I mean, fence, Lee, but they, I mean, they got a lot of winnable games here, depending what Miami looks like on the back half of the schedule, I don't think.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: But luckily to us, coming back this week, I mean, like Jason said, all these tough games, Houston, Indyeze, Seattle all at home.
So you got to win those home games. And then at the end of the year, you get at Miami, at Jacksonville, at Buffalo. Who knows what Miami, Jacksonville is going to be.
Buffalo, you know, it's going to be playing. You know, Buffalo may already have the division wrapped up, so they might just be playing proceeding or locked in as a three or four or two seed.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: Well, thing is, a short week this week they have the Patriots this upcoming Sunday and then they have, they play Halloween night on Thursday gets the Texans. That's a tough turnaround. I know Patriots ain't nothing. Drake May, though, looks really good. I gotta say, man, this is like a really great rookie class for like quarterbacks. Everyone's solid. This is pretty impressive. Besides that, coaching is terrible. But the Bills, though, Texans, even Seahawks, even if they're going to be coming into town, that's tough, man. That's a tough stretch.
[00:27:34] Speaker C: It's, it's tough. But I think there's a lot of winnable games that get to. And even, yeah, even at two and five, which is pretty bad. But they have the talent. They have the talent. But I mean, when you look at the seven seed, they're two games out.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:46] Speaker C: And so, and that's of the Broncos, who, you know, they're going to play a ton of super close games. You have a, yeah, the, the Raiders are two and five, the colts at four and three, you know, and so there's, there's room for them to strike. They have little margin for error. They've blown that. But there, there's an opportunity for them, if they can get it together, if they can find the right mix. I think Collins Earth is saying on the broadcast, besides just glowingly talking about Aaron Rodgers every five minutes, but, you know, he was, he was talking at the end of the game on like, what Devontae Adams kind of brought, and there was a different element to the offense, even though it wasn't within production. I saw, you know, Brie saw in the passing game was opened up because they were stretching the field with Devontae and Garrett Wilson. So there was a ton of stuff underneath. Early hithenne Conklin was, you know, there in the touchdown. So there's, there's different things they can do offensively if they can kind of put it all together within the red zone.
I get, this is a pet peeve of mine, but I get super frustrated whenever I watch these Rogers games. And, you know, it was successful when he was just playing the Bears all the time within the five yard line, but they go past first down every time in this stuff. Instead of using some of these running backs, they got to be more creative and they always put themselves behind the eight ball in some, you know, longer conversion situations, whether it's a long third down or even tight stuff in the goal line, they should, you know, pounding the ball in for the, for the touchdown.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: Right now, I just looked up that Jazz have a 33% probability of making the playoffs, a plus 210 odds. So.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: Like that. You like that?
[00:29:21] Speaker B: I don't think the jets are going to make the playoffs.
[00:29:23] Speaker A: I would.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: I mean, they're the Jetse, you know, who knows what's going to happen, who can get hurt, whatnot. I mean, breeze hall, like Jason said, he's, he's their best player. I mean, you see what happens when he gets the ball in open, open space.
You know, he's, he's like, you know, a Derek Henry, not as big, but he's just quick and explosive. He just runs away from people. Like when you see guys running away from NFL players, you know, they're a special talent and player and that's what you get from breeze. All they got to find ways to get the run game going. They didn't get the run game going against the Steelers. Kind of got, you know, haul out in space, wing passes, screen passes, got that going. But the jets, they got a lot of issues. The defense, secondary, Jason mentioned, I think four of their five top guys in that secondary out outside of sauce Gardner, he even got banged up in that game. Yeah, their D line, they got worn down by Pittsburgh.
That's more concerning right now for the jets. The offense I feel pretty good about. It's going to get better, more rhythm. But can they get healthy on the defensive end and can they stay healthy? I mean you got the Texans, colts, these teams got good offenses. They can pit up points. We'll see what happens.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Honestly, the judge haven't been able to score so their offense has to get better. They have that have no choice. But let's look at the AFC though. Like the top teams are separating. You got bills at five and two, Chiefs at six and O Ravens at five two and the steelers at five and two, Texans at five and two. Colts hanging in there. Man. They're, they're good one week, bad one week. I don't know what to think of them yet.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: Well, they play Texas this week in Houston.
[00:30:52] Speaker A: We, we can count the Jaguars, the Titans out. So the bottom half that's out. Browns, they're out. I think their season is done.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: Bengals will back in.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: Man, there's Laker in at the three and four. That division still has a chance to get three guys in the playoffs. We'll see. AFC west pretty interesting. Got the Broncos and Chargers hanging in the middle. Raiders are out and then we can count the Pats out. But chats, I think they're better than Dolphins. Dolphins are not that good.
So it's really, you know, it's there.
[00:31:23] Speaker C: Now a couple of points I think Aaron mentioned. I think it was, you're talking about the Steelers just wearing the jets out. And I think if you look at the Steelers, the Ravens and then even the Chiefs that, you know, Rome doesn't like, these are three teams that put elite defenses out that wear you down in the first two to three quarters, and then in the fourth quarter you have Najee Harris taking over the game. You have Derek Henry taking it over the game. And at this point the Chiefs are able to throw out Kareem HunT there and just really ice the game to a certain point. They don't need spectacular plays. And that's, you know, the class of the conference, which has been for, you know, over a decade with those three teams, you know, that's going to pay dividends. Down the stretch is how these teams wear other teams out where someone like the jets, they're just up and down. So you bring out the Colts.
I wanted to bring you stat that I had saw on things at the 33rd team FB on X. So Anthony Richardson, I think he made a couple big throws this year, but they had a stat out of there at some point on Sunday that I saw halfway through the Colts game. Out of the 1107 quarterbacks with 100 plus drop packs in a season since 2000, Anthony Richardson's completion percentage ranks 1097th at a 46.3%. So I know a lot of people are impressed with the guy's freakish athletic ability, his big arm to throw the deep passes, but, you know, when he's on the field so far, they're just not putting them. The Colts, that is in a winning position, and I think that's going to be the difference on the stretch of whether that team makes the playoffs or not because you need more efficient quarterback play to be able to compete with some of the big dogs in the AFC.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: That's why I said Thursday, why not play Joe Flacco? He's accurate. He could still make big throws, still decent mobility in the pocket. You don't need to be playing Anthony Richardson right now. I mean, he doesn't like, jason just mentioned the stats. He does not give them the best chance to win. He's raw, he's talented, he needs the reps. But you got a team right now that's ready to win in a division that's winnable and you can get into the playoffs. I don't think they're a Super bowl contender. Whether or not Richardson gets a minute, Joe Flacco. But, you know, the idea is to give your chance, team the best chance to win. You know, we talk about the Browns, they're stuck with a big contract. You got a rookie contract second year. Guy only played one season at Florida, only four or five games last year. He's only played four or five games this year. You know, he's, he can throw the deep ball. He can make incredible plays. He runs hard, but yeah, I mean, if you're 46 and a half percent completion percentage on drop back passes against zone or. Man, that, that's pretty bad numbers. Man, that, that's, that's raider type starting quarterback numbers.
[00:34:15] Speaker A: I disagree with you guys. I think, I think if you're looking for something more consistent, play flacop, that's a short term answer. Richardson still needs his drafts. He still doesn't play a lot of games in college and the NFL. And he's great on the deep ball. He sucks anything below 20 yards, you know, five to 20 yards. As that, as that stat that you highlighted. We talked about this a few times on the, on the pot as well. He got to short that up, but he's still making strides. I still like him as a young player. I think they should play him. But if you're just looking for a short term solution, you just want to make the playoffs. Sure, go ahead and play flaco, but I don't think that's the best solution. That's my opinion, though.
Let's go to the other games. Biggest losses maybe besides the 49 ers. That was a pretty bad loss.
[00:35:02] Speaker B: What we already hit on the jets, that was a bad loss.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: That's of course a bad loss.
[00:35:07] Speaker C: I think Aaron brought up the Seahawks win. I think the Falcons losing, not, I mean, besides the loss, the fact that they only scored seven, you know, 14 points in that game. And I think the offense has basically been clicking one week so far out of their four wins consistently where cousins has had all these weapons and it's just never kind of get going. I mean, they are, it feels like it's a different team every week between, between the weeks with the Falcons at this point now in this division that might still win in the division at this point because the rest of the division is just conceding and it's going to be a two man race between them and the Bucks. And with the Bucks losing half of their skilled players on offense tonight, you know, heading seven, nine and eight, or, you know, whatever it is, might win the division at this point, but I still think that's a pretty bad loss for a Seahawks team that hadn't been great recently.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with that. Atlanta, tough loss. They win that game and then they win this upcoming week against Tampa. That's a two game lead. We've already beaten them twice and I think they, I think Atlanta is already three and, oh, in the division. Yeah, they're beating the Saints. They've been everybody in the division, so they got a chance to go to four and oh, it would have had a chance to go two games up. Now you're just looking to go a game up with the tiebreakers. So yeah, top lost Atlanta. Seattle was, Seattle was really lost, losing three in a row. But big win for Seattle for sure given that the 49 ers their issues. Seattle, they looking good for the division now.
[00:36:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So 49 ers are having like a season uphill.
I thought there would be a little bit attrition from having pretty healthy season last two years or so and it seems like just everything's not going right.
Is it? Panic button. I still think they make the playoffs as a wild card. I just think this maybe they might go on a run after this. Who knows? Purdy might have, that might have been his worst game so far. Those interceptions, it looked like someone, you know, was supposed to do like an out round. So they did a curl and that was interception there. He threw that Biff before they ran that. The second one though right up the middle and triple quadruple coverage. That was really terrible. I can't remember what the third one was, but not a great game. And I mean, homes, the company, Andy Reid, Jesus man. Just everyone goes down and he just like that defense is phenomenal that now that homes on that big contract, that defense they've been hitting on every draft pick. It's money and that was a big difference in this game.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I know Jason likes to play schedule guy. I'm looking at the 49 ers schedule right now and it is brutal. Dallas this week followed by at Tampa, Seattle, Green Bay, Buffalo, Chicago. Mix in Miami, Detroit in that stretch. That's a tough, tough stretch for a team that's banged up.
I mean, Dallas, they would have the, Dallas is licking their chops coming off a high week getting the 49 ers looking like this. This is the most thrilled they've been to go to San Francisco, Santa Clara for sure.
[00:38:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I saw someone on Twitter post the, the healthiest 49 er wide receiver right now is a guy who got shot in the off season.
[00:38:23] Speaker A: I still like the Niners and this upcoming thing. I think their favorite. I think the line is pretty big. Like six points at. I think.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: I think it's like five and a half. Six.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: Early lean Dallas, man. Early lean Dallas.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:35] Speaker C: I will, I will say for the Niners, even, even with the tough schedule, they have the fate in their own hands playing division and Arizona has been up and down week to week. Their defense has been, you know, pretty bad in a lot of weeks. Seattle has been Aaron sleeper all week. That's, I think that's who's going to contend. You know, with them. The Rams potential would be, could be sellers. I don't know. I heard some stuff today. I don't know if Aaron sources confirmed about them potentially moving Cooper cup before the deadline. I had heard that floated around there today.
[00:39:05] Speaker B: Interesting, interesting. Off to reach out. Have to reach out, reach out.
[00:39:09] Speaker C: I don't know. It just things, things were swirling. But I don't, I don't know if, I don't believe that because I think that's, I think the Rams can always be competitive with big day at the helm, but I think no one's ran away with that division for the Niners if I think a lot is the big if for them, can they get McCaffrey back? Because I think that adds, you know, an element to the offense that assists purdy that you don't necessarily need. Iu, maybe not even Deebo, you know, to be able to open a lot of stuff up for the wide receivers when you have McCaffrey playing so many different roles around that offense and being.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: Dynamic like the NFC west did. See officer in first, four and three, they're tied second or third. However you want to look at three and four. The Cardinals, they've been playing like shit so far this year.
[00:39:55] Speaker B: You got the Ardals beat them. So the Cardinals have, you know, at least one. I mean, everybody's still alive in that division. I mean, the Rams, whether or not, you know, cup is on the trade block or not, they've got that Thursday night game against Minnesota. We'll see. I mean, a win there. The Rams are back in the divisional race, a loss. And, you know, maybe they start being sellers. You know, I don't know if you want to get rid of that guy. Stafford pretty much likes them.
[00:40:17] Speaker A: Have they ever been sellers? Even when they were bad, they weren't really, you know, they have, they were.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: They had a chance to make playoffs and win Super Bowls. They're nowhere near that right now.
[00:40:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
Commanders, the big win, even without Daniels, five and two, that middle of the division, giants are done. I'm just going to like, I'm permanently off of the, of the Dan Daniel Jones wagon. I'm not going to say they're coming through nothing. I'm off.
[00:40:45] Speaker C: I feel you're, that's a complete 180 from like was just like in Zack throughout the season.
[00:40:50] Speaker A: Like, you know, you take the games and I'm done. You know, they look kind of good. I'm off. I'm not, they got a lot of.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Offensive linemen banged up, man. That didn't help against a Philly team that was hungry.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: Well, I'm done with them, though.
[00:41:04] Speaker B: Player, Steelers this weekend, by the way.
[00:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah, and we're going to move up to six and one, so thank you.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: Six and two. Six and two. But yeah, he will be six and two.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: Giants is out. Rams, I just think I know you.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: That was an ugly game, dude, against the Raiders. I mean, I wouldn't watch that. One of you paid.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: I didn't want to watch it. It was rough to, the afternoon games this past Sunday was not good. NFL, the scheduling is fucking off this year. It is fucking off. It was a bunch of good games in the morning.
Another good cop, bad cop on Monday night. I don't the hell is going on here? Pretty terrible. But Rams, I think they're done. I think they're going to be competitive, but they're going to ruin some people's playoff chances, but I consider them out.
NSC north, you can't count anybody out. Bears are in prime position. Make making jason very happy. And this guy's probably walking on with a hard on 24/7 now that they're four and two. And then NFC south, you got, he.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: Called his doctor and his doctor said it's Bears winning syndrome. Don't worry about it, man.
[00:42:03] Speaker C: You talking, you're talking bears. He's talking Notre Dame right now. I mean, Notre Dame Navy, man.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: I'm excited for that one, man.
[00:42:11] Speaker C: Notre Dame Navy. I feel like Aaron, Aaron's going to be sending the, the show group. Text me some stuff on Notre Dame Navy around here on set.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: It's already on the games to watch, man. It's already on there. Highlighted, starred, you name it. We'll get into college football here in a bit.
[00:42:26] Speaker C: Gotta be, gotta be.
[00:42:30] Speaker A: Cool with that. Should I reveal my new power five?
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it, man. I'm excited to hear it.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: Cool. This was tough, man. So I think after this upcoming week, week eight, we're gonna reveal top eight after this. So it's the last power five third iteration, but nothing changed on the top. I'm still keeping the Lions number one.
They're my number one team. They look every bit the part, and I just can't wait to, you know, to see if they're gonna find another defensive guy to shore up losing Hutchinson, at least till the Super bowl, maybe pulls off a tl, I don't know. Number two, moving up the power rankings two spots is the Baltimore Ravens. Watching that game from top to bottom. They are pretty fucking good. And I know I cracked on the defense a lot, but they had a big lead, those 21 points, all that stuff didn't really matter. They are solid. Derek Henry, just everything, all the weapons, they, they are no joke. Number three.
[00:43:35] Speaker C: Chiefs. Anyone but the Chiefs. Anyone but the Chiefs. He's just, he's just trying not to pick the Chiefs right now, even though.
[00:43:42] Speaker A: They'Re six and, oh, I might, I might have to change this, actually, because I had, I can't have the Vikings go up one when they lose.
[00:43:52] Speaker B: We lost your, your top team, so why not?
[00:43:57] Speaker A: Aaron's playing devil's advocate.
[00:44:00] Speaker B: They lost to the number one team by, you know, last second field goal. You can't really dock them down.
[00:44:05] Speaker A: I still think the Vikings are a better team than the Chiefs. So I have them on this iteration, number three, but I had them four last week. But that doesn't make any sense when I'm comparing both weeks for them to go up. But they were really good in this game. They had every chance to win. They are for real. I think they are definitely one of the top five teams in the NFL. Chiefs go up to, from five to four.
Good win.
I don't know. That's all I got to say. Andy Reid, he's a baller. Spagnola owns Shanahan. He's owned him and his dad for quite some time. It's a generational thing. So maybe, I don't know. Maybe Spagnola is the kryptonite for Shanahan's in general. So Chiefs. And then to round out the top five Texans. This was tough, man. I had to bump them out. They were number two last week. They're out of the top five, lingering around that six spot. But despite playing kind of like a weird game, packers defense are for real. And even with love having a bad game, they still pull out a pretty big victory against the Texans. They are the new number five and the top five. So that makes three NFC north teams and the top five.
[00:45:25] Speaker C: Romans, a better man than me. He doesn't put his steelers in the top five. After that impressive performance, I think. I think they'd be in the top five over the packers right now personally.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: But they be the eight for sure. But, no, I can't put them there yet. Uh, Russell Wilson doesn't make a top five team. He just happened to.
[00:45:42] Speaker B: I don't know, man. I. Wilson, you know, he looked, he looked good, man. Give him the dues, man.
[00:45:47] Speaker A: Yeah, he looked good.
[00:45:49] Speaker B: You know, he was focused. He was throwing that deep ball in 50 50. Those little moon ball shots.
[00:45:53] Speaker A: He throws the moon balls. Yeah. That's definitely what's different from him and fields and them being okay with him doing that. So, yeah. As long as Pickens is one on one, man, I like it. Why not? I'm not going to complain. They scored 37 points. Haven't scored 37 points in like, how many years?
I don't know. Feels like two or three.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: Back 30. Back to back 30 point weeks, 32 against the Raiders the week before. When's the last time they did that? I mean, Roethlisberger, we're talking 2018, 2016.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: Well before Roethlisberger had his downturn. Yeah, it's been a while, too. It's been a. It's been ugly, to say the least.
Yeah. That's the top five, though.
A lot of good teams, though. I don't know. It's tough. It's tough ranking these things.
Is that it for NFL?
[00:46:39] Speaker B: I think I'm good.
[00:46:41] Speaker C: We're good until Thursday.
[00:46:43] Speaker A: Let's take quick break. When we come back, we will go over some college football ring around the Rosies, a pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes number one keeps on falling down that's the theme for college football this year. Number one goes down again as Texas, a school, a team that Aaron so much hates and says it's allegedly the fifth best SEC school.
Surprisingly, it goes down against Georgia.
I think that was a fun. There was a lot of good games this week. Alabama going down.
That was really.
I don't know, man. There was a lot of good games.
What do you guys want to start with?
[00:47:37] Speaker B: Why don't we start your Texas, man.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: Texas. All right, all right. First of all, if we're going to talk about my teams, UCLA, baby. Pulled out a big victory. The text, you guys, I was really excited. I was watching. They finally put together a complete game.
They've been knocking on the door of victories. That was their second one of the year, right? Yeah, big one. Probably the best two and five team out there in the nation. And I'll.
And I'm not saying that lightly or some, they're all terrible, but that's a pretty good 205 team out there. They should have at least one or two more wins. But a big win at Rutgers. Rutgers, their dogs. And they have a good running game, good offensive line. And UCLA, they just.
Whatever. Deshawn Watson or Deshawn Watson.
Wrong. Deshawn, man. My bad. Foster. My apologies. Dude.
Foster, he's turning into a real coach. I don't know if he's a head coach yet, but he's developed in one. He has like a lot of good pieces around him. I can't remember who's on his staff. He has some really seasoned veterans on there, but really impressive win onto my other team, Nebraska got their ass spanked by Indiana. That was an ass weapon of the ages. We, that was part of Aaron's game of the week, I think last week on their games to watch. It was not a game to watch. It was bad from the get go.
Don't even know what to talk about that game. And then Texas, I am a Texas fan. I do root for them. I think they're, you know, a contender for the championship. I do think they're one of the top two or three teams in college football, but they got manhandled. Their offensive line got beat on the ends. Georgia, they were just too fast. Yours looked rattled. Really quickly gets benched. They bring out Manning and he's, he's a, he's as fast as a white boy as I ever seen. That guy couldn't even get out of pass. He was, at least he was, he was letting it go pretty quickly with within one or 2 seconds and then he doesn't come back. He only played like what, a minute and a half to end the second half got at least like a field goal, I think the first points for Texas and then yours comes back in and gets, you know, you know, two touchdowns, but they looked over matched against Georgia. So I don't know.
[00:50:02] Speaker C: Can I get a top five list of Rome's college football team ranking each week? Right now I'm learning about Texas being one of his favorite teams this week. I knew. I remember Nebraska, but I hadn't heard much of them since they've been unranked since like, week two.
[00:50:18] Speaker B: Rome just has five teams he likes. I don't think he has a top five team as far as the country goes.
[00:50:24] Speaker A: No, no. I just, I just.
Yeah, it goes back.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: Texas, Nebraska, UCLA, Michigan, all these teams are like Rome's teams.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: That's about it.
[00:50:35] Speaker C: So a bunch of teams that lost. A bunch of teams that lost this weekend because, you know, the big, the Big ten game of the week was my Illini, you know, defeating Michigan over Big ten also.
[00:50:49] Speaker A: That was a disgusting game. And you know what? All I hear is Aaron's voice in the background.
[00:50:54] Speaker B: I'm here waiting for an apology. Whenever you're ready, Rome. I told you Michigan was a fraud way back when. And, you know, every week I'm looking more right and right. They're going to get smoked by Oregon. They're going to get smoked by Ohio State. Indiana. They're going to smoke them if they're starting quarterbacks around.
[00:51:10] Speaker A: First of all, they're not getting smoke smoked. Right. Michigan, they're going to get smoked by.
[00:51:14] Speaker B: These teams or going to come up there and smoke them.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: They have a top defense. Like, they still held the line item, only 21 points, but they can't score for sure. They can't pass them all.
[00:51:24] Speaker C: Aaron, you called them at six wins, right?
[00:51:26] Speaker B: Six wins, and that's what they're going to get.
[00:51:30] Speaker C: He's right. They got Michigan State this week where they're going to have to win. And then northwestern. That's it.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: That's it.
[00:51:35] Speaker C: Or Oregon. Indiana. Ohio State. All losses.
[00:51:39] Speaker B: All losses. I mean, I know Indiana, starting quarterbacks out at least a week with a thumb injury. I don't know how the backup looks. Indiana's the surprise team in the big ten. Nobody saw this coming. Seven and oh, and they're just rolling through people. They look good. They'll beat Michigan when they play. I mean, back when Michigan was four and one, we mentioned, and Jason looked it up. I said, Michigan has not played a road game yet. They've still not won a road game. Losing at Washington now losing this one at Illinois. They get Oregon at home, but that's not going to matter. Oregon's going to wipe the floor with them. They play at Ohio State. Ohio State sitting there licking their chops, waiting for them. Are they at Indiana, Jason, or you got the schedule?
[00:52:21] Speaker A: They are Indiana. They are.
[00:52:23] Speaker C: They're at Indiana and at Ohio State.
[00:52:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Guys, I need, like, a little positivity here. We're going to get the win in Michigan State. We're going to.
[00:52:32] Speaker B: Yeah, northwestern, that's it. That's the six wins. That's. I had them down for those wins there, too. There are two wild card games. I serve Washington and Illinois, and they got beaten. Both of them. Those.
That was the only chance they had to get to seven or eight wins. I just, I don't see it.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Aaron, good call. All right.
[00:52:51] Speaker B: And then Texas, man, I like Texas, man. I just don't like soft teams that get overrated.
[00:52:56] Speaker A: I don't think they're all I got matched one game. Everyone gets overmaster one game.
[00:53:04] Speaker C: They definitely have. They definitely have the talent. I mean, but at the same time, I think there's a little bit of program, you know, hardening, if you will, to get some SEC licks in here to be what it's going to take to win this conference, like week after week and the tough games you're going to play, you know, when you look at some of the big twelve defenses they're playing, you know, I'm just thinking of my college football watching heyday where it's like the Cliff Kingsbury and Mike Leach, Texas Tech, where, you know, no one plays defense, everything seven on seven. We're throwing the ball up and down. You know, the field. You go against LSU, you go against Bama, you go against Georgia, Mississippi. These are when, you know, they have pros up and down, you know, the trenches on the both offensive and defensive lines and, you know, you necessarily don't need that in the big twelve. And some of these teams that they're playing. So, you know, Texas still good, has a lot of talent. They're going to get a lot of talent. But, you know, to compete with Georgia and some of these other teams, I think it's another, I think it's another level of ball that they're eventually going to get to. And Sarkeesian knows it with his time at Alabama. But there's going to be, there's going to be tests there.
[00:54:17] Speaker A: Whose talk was that?
[00:54:18] Speaker C: That was mine.
[00:54:20] Speaker B: My dog. My dog's asleep, sir. You ain't got to worry about it. Yeah, yeah. Like Jason said, I told you, Rome, Texas, talent wise, they can match up with anybody on the outside. Quarterback, running backs. They've got elite talent, skill players. It's that toughness in between the trenches and playing week in, week out. They struggled in the big twelve for the last decade. In the last three, four years that are sarcasian barely beating teams like Houston, TCU, Oklahoma State. I mean, yeah, they beat up on Oklahoma, but Oklahoma's terrible. They just fired their OC. I mean, you know, basically they just say, you know, throw the ball right, throw the ball left, run middle. That's their playbook at Oklahoma. And punt, that's their three plays. Throw right, throw left, run, punt. So, yeah, Texas got a real soft schedule in the SEC and now they played the first real team like Georgia and Georgia manhandled them. I mean, we haven't even brought up how the referees with the worst botch call ever because some fans decided to throw some stuff on the field, decided to be like, oh, hey, like, let's change the call so we can get out of here alive.
[00:55:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And Texas plays Vanderbilt this week and this could be a good game. I haven't looked up the odds. I think Texas probably be two touchdown favorite, but Vanderbilt's not going to be an easy game. We know they're scrappy. Jason and I have already brought up the fact that they got to go to a and m pile field. That could be a playoff eliminator. SEC type game championship. Who gets in? LSU is traveling down to a and M this weekend in the battle of unbeatens in the SEC.
So, yeah, it's a long way to go before the season's over. Rome, like you said, number one, is getting knocked off every week.
Alabama's in another dogfight game with Missouri this weekend. So, college football, man, there's, there's no off weekends on Saturday.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Yeah. As well. Alabama going down against Tennessee. That was kind of a weird game. Jalen Milro, some costly mistakes in that game. What do you guys think about that one?
[00:56:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Alabama Jalen Merrill heats.
He's kind of one of those guys. When he's on, he's on, and when he's off, he's off, he's off.
[00:56:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:26] Speaker B: Alabama, I mean, their defense had been bad. I mean, Tennessee, I thought, could have won a lot more. The quarterback there for Tennessee, the young guy missed some big throws down the sideline, had a couple wide open touchdowns. He got it going in the second half. Tennessee's defense is really good. Alabama's defense isn't great. Alabama hasn't been able to run the ball. They pit a lot on Melro over the last few weeks, and it's kind of showed. I mean, it's, you know, there's a reason why Saban bench this guy last year. Everybody's, you know, he's, everybody's talking about him going up, being a first round pick. I've even heard some scouts say he's a better version of Lamar Jackson maybe coming out of college, maybe he's a better thrower. But talent wise, where he projects in the pros, I don't see it right now. He's, he's gotten better under killing the boar. Alabama's in a lot of trouble. No doubt. Their schedule is just brutal. I mean, three losses, and if they lose a third game, that'd be.
[00:57:21] Speaker A: They'll probably get a third conference.
[00:57:23] Speaker B: That would eliminate them from a conference championship game. So we'll see what happens there.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: Missouri.
[00:57:29] Speaker B: Missouri's got it. That's a tough game this weekend for him.
[00:57:31] Speaker C: Yeah, Missouri's tough. And they go to, they go to. At LSU, which, it's at LSU potentially could be the night game, which LSU is like, I don't know, like 90% winners at night games in Death Valley.
And then I think at the end of the season, they get, oh, who are they playing? I don't even know what school this is. Alabama's playing.
[00:57:52] Speaker B: Oh, they got cake, huh?
[00:57:54] Speaker C: They got Mercury, Colgate or somebody on there. Yeah, no, Mercer they got after LSU week, so, yeah, Mercer, Oklahoma, who's been bad, and then Auburn rivalry game. Auburn's not good, but there, there's been some times that Auburn's made it more competitive. So. Yeah, I don't, I don't think the best start for Kalyn DeBoer. I know the Alabama fans, we talked about the colors and after they losing to Vanderbilt, but there's a reason Saban was getting out of it. You know, they, they got into the playoff last year, but there was a lot of questions whether they even should have been in the playoff last year versus, you know, if the floor, if Florida State's quarterbacks healthy. I don't think Bama, you know, is. It's, it's like I have a toss up between them and Georgia, even though they won the SEC championship game. So there's been some questions around it. I don't know if the roster is where it's been since the nil deal because, you know, there was a time during Saban's prime, you know, we have four and five star guys galore up and down the lineup, but they, once the nil comes in, you know, there's been a lot more of a spread of talent, and it just wasn't going to be possible to be as dominant in the SEC as, you know, Saban had during his big run.
[00:59:00] Speaker A: Well, I think it's a new coach, too. They had what, 30, 35 transfers. So that's, that's a big part of it. So it's always gonna be a changeover, but not the start that maybe Deborah wanted. But I think it falls in line with what everyone else could expect. Right. When you're going with.
[00:59:14] Speaker B: No one could have saw the loss of Vanderbilt coming. Nobody could.
[00:59:17] Speaker A: Yeah, nobody. That's a once in a lifetime thing. It's like landing on the moon, I guess. Right? So another big game that kind of stuck out to me is Iowa State 70, first in the big twelve.
And it looks like they might win out.
[00:59:33] Speaker B: Well, not only that, Iowa State with a late win. BYU Friday night against Oklahoma State with a late win. Those stay undefeated in the conference. Looks like the big twelve's coming down to that. Utah third. Done. Their OC just stepped down. There are times he's in there for you. To Colorado. Colorado is a team that no one's really talking about too much. I mean, we, I bring them up every week on games to watch exciting, skilled players starting to get a little better as a, you know, defensive unit. Big one. I mean, they, they beat the crap out of Arizona. Arizona is just kind of falling apart ever since we called that upset a month ago over Utah. Yeah, they let that go to their head for sure.
Big twelve is wide open, but BYU, Iowa State, Rome, they, they look like the front runners for sure right now.
[01:00:20] Speaker A: What do you guys think about the Pittsburgh Panthers now ranked number 19, them and Miami, the only undefeated in the ACC.
[01:00:31] Speaker B: Does Pittsburgh play against Miami? I don't think so because Miami, I think they mentioned, does not have a rings opponent on their schedule.
[01:00:40] Speaker A: No, but Pittsburgh, what they have left on their schedule is Syracuse ranked SMU, which have been smuff SMU at SMU and two weeks Virginia at oh, no. Then they host rank Clemson.
[01:00:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Pittsburgh's not even on my radar to care about right now.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: Got it.
[01:00:59] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't think so. And even Clemson, they're five and O in the conference. They're still technically first right now. Even with Miami seven. And overall, Clemson's got five conference wins overall. You know, I called Clemson winning the conference. Aaron called Miami. I think it was coming down to them, too, regardless, in the ACC championship game, but waiting for Miami to blow it. They've gotten, you know, they've gotten the benefit of some calls here down and they play like nobody down the stretch. So I don't think, I don't, I don't think it really changes or we're going to see Clemson and Miami in the ACC championship game. It's potentially a play in, depending on how many of these SEC teams potentially knock each other out as it kind of goes down. I don't know what kind of side deals this committee is going to have because I think you're going to see the Big Ten with Fox's money and SEC with ESPN's money have a pretty big influence on how many teams those get. But at the same time, you know, ESPN also has the ACC deal in it, too. But I think you'll. There's an opportunity for both to get in from Miami and Clemson, but it could be a play in game in the ACC championship.
[01:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd agree. Championship games looking like Miami, Clemson, it's coming down to that. Unless Clemson, you know, slips up, they seem to be getting closer and closer every week. According to Rome, you know, three straight weeks, the referees of questionable calls saving Miami. Cam Ward wasn't a fumble. Was it a forward pass?
I had forward pass, too. I think the reference and me are both three, you know, on those picks there.
But yeah, Clemson, outside of that drumming they took against Georgia to the start the year wedge again doesn't look bad considering what George did out Texas. That was a neutral psyche week one. Clemson's been the best team, the ACC right now going forward, so we'll, we'll see what ends up happening. But I agree, that's a play in by. They're going to get a top four seed if you win that power four conference.
Maybe if Clemson wins out in Miami, that's like a 42 43. Maybe both teams get in the playoff, but we'll have to see what happens with the Big Ten and the SEC going forward.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: Miami was playing with fire again against Louisville, 5245. They didn't really step away until like what was like the final five minutes or so in the fourth quarter. That's when Cam Ward came through pretty close. Man, that guy's money. That guy is definitely money. So they're definitely getting their money's worth. But another close call, the reps didn't interfere in this one. In my opinion. It looks like a pretty clean win to me.
[01:03:20] Speaker C: But I like those who say this, Aaron. I like Clemson does the Alabama scheduling they got, they got the Citadel on their next to last game before they where they play South Carolina and South.
[01:03:33] Speaker B: Carolina be a tough game that's gonna be. Carolina is no joke. They just smoked. Oklahoma gave Alabama the run for their money. They've went into Kentucky one early in the year by 25, had that let down game against Ole Miss. But the SEC, like me, Jason said, it's, it's like a football conference. Anything can happen week to week. If you come out of that conference five and three, you honestly feel good even though you'll make the plot miss the playoff.
[01:03:57] Speaker A: Yeah. They are at Pit later on mid November. Pitt has a tougher end of the year schedule than Clemson does.
[01:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, Pitt was fortunate to beat your Cal Bears. Rome, Cal Bears, like I told you, four losses by a total of nine points. And one of those was a loss against Pittsburgh on a late field goal. Yeah.
[01:04:19] Speaker A: Cal Bears, three and four. Tough losses, man. They're pretty good. Three and four at least. Competitive three and four.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: Nine. Nine points total and four losses. Really tough, man. Yeah, tough.
[01:04:33] Speaker A: That is tough.
Any other comments on college football?
[01:04:41] Speaker C: We'll have a big preview this Thursday. Could be a lot of good stuff this weekend.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: I take it.
Cool. Let's take quick break.
And we are back from a much needed break. We got to see Jason's little doggy make an appearance.
And I'm ready to talk.
Actually, I'm not ready to talk about basketball, NBA. But I will talk about the WNBA before we get to baseball. Game five of the WBA Finals.
I was going for the Liberty.
[01:05:27] Speaker C: Seems like a lot of people were going for the Liberty. Yeah, but including the refs and the league office and.
[01:05:36] Speaker A: Yeah, let me pull it up real quick.
Yeah, the links, Mandy, Minnesota, they're really, like, I don't think they're that good, but they're really, really good.
Sabrina couldn't make a shot.
Other homegirl couldn't make a shot. They shot 30%. They were like two for 30 on three pointers. And then you come down to it.
Minnesota had a nice little lead. Liberty is down by two. You got.
Man, I'm just forgetting her name all of a sudden. Now that we're recording Brianna Stewart. Yeah. Yeah. Brianna Stewart's driving on the left side of the paint or the court goes up the middle on a turnaround, gets stuffed. They call a foul. There's only about 7 seconds left. It should not been a foul. Like, when it's like a tough game like that, you don't want the rest of this side, especially a winner takes all game. She comes in clutch, unlike that other game three winner loss. You know, whatever.
[01:06:36] Speaker C: Well, you say she. You say she comes in clutch, but right before that, she missed two free throws. Yeah, that could have tied the game earlier. And I'm going to. I'll be completely honest, I turned the game on literally before that moment as Stewie went up to the line for that first set of three throws. Miss them both.
The liberty get the rebound.
Sabrina gets a wide open look at a three, misses it. They somehow still, I think they got possession because it was a 50 50 ball and it was the Liberty turn at the possession. And that's when that play you're talking about. I mean, I'm no, I'm no judge. I saw LeBron tweet that, hey, it's not a file and stuff for me. The rest of the announcers were talking about whether she got hit on the arm. What I saw was the defender from the links. He was moving quite a bit backwards. So if you're going to talk about like, hey, they're basically almost like a blocking file type thing because she didn't set up for the charge because her feet were moving.
That's a little bit of my expertise in basketball, but I would have said that was really the foul point is because the defender was. Was not set up and stationary for it, but still, they. It just seemed in that moment that the Liberty were going to get every single chance possible to tie that game.
[01:07:48] Speaker A: No. Yeah. It was really odd. Yeah. She hits those free throws. They go into overtime. And then I think Collier, she fouls out. Collier. She's a beast. I think she was the best player in the.
In the finals.
It kind of looked like a David Stern 1990s kind of rig job. The refs are bad. Even Ben Simmons was watching the finals. He's tweeting about it.
[01:08:09] Speaker C: Phil Simmons.
[01:08:11] Speaker B: The fact that LeBron Simmons, he's definitely not watching this.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: Like I said, ben Simmons.
[01:08:17] Speaker C: You said Ben Simmons, which could be Bill Simmons. His son, I think, is also named Ben Simmonse.
[01:08:24] Speaker A: Bill Simmons watching it. And then, hot goddamn, you guys just threw my fucking train of thought here. The fact that LeBron James tweets about it, like, the guy that gets, like, the most bullshit calls in the playoffs. Shut the fuck up, dude. Shut the fuck up. With your nepotism and your, like, son that doesn't even belong in the. In the fucking NBA now. You guys gonna have Ken Griffey Junior and his dad show up to the fucking game this week? I'm not ready for the NBA. My fucking Lakers, they're just making a mockery of all of us right now. LeBron's been hijacking the fucking team. Now we got JJ Redding. We can't hire a fucking coach, all right? He should have just seen him broadcasting. And basketball season starts over. Under 37 wins on that team. Like, are they even going to get to that? We're going to do an NBA preview, but I'm just, like, so fucking fed about LeBron. Anyways, back to WNBA links got robbed. I like the Liberty. I like Sabrina. She's one of my favorite players in the WNBA, but that was a David Stern type of rig job. And, man, if they. If they've wanted to become, like, a Premier league, if they want to become, like, the NBA, they're fucking doing it because they totally stole a championship away from the better team in this series, the Minnesota Links.
[01:09:30] Speaker C: It was. It was tough to watch a thing from a casual viewer. I mean, I just. I watched maybe a little bit of each some of the games this year with the hype around, you know, angel wreaths and Caitlin Clark, but, I mean, I know about the Aces and what, you know, what they brought to the table back to back championships. But if you. You're coming into. I haven't watched any of the playoffs. I've only heard anything secondhand. I've literally. There was kind of like a YouTube tv. Had a great triple box last night. So it had the Dodger game, it had the Sunday night football game, and had the WNBA Finals. I'll say I put the triple box on. I think that was great. Great for the WNBA Finals. You're putting that. But you get a casual like me watching that, and then you see the liberty, who's supposed to have two of the best players in the game with Breanna Stewart and Sabrina and Esku. And Sabrina goes one for 19 from the floor, one for ten, one for ten from three. And they still win this game.
[01:10:27] Speaker A: It is just 119 for 19, dude.
[01:10:33] Speaker C: And one of the best shooters is supposedly the WNBA game. I think it just left a lot for me to desired from like a showcase. And now I was texting with a few friends and stuff, and they're. They're kind of reminiscing of like the Kobe, like five for a century, like the NBA final stuff that we don't remember and things like that. But I think overall, I think, you know, Brianna Stewart and Sabrina and ask you just did not. It wasn't their best shooting night, by all. By all means. And it was kind of just. It was a. It wasn't the best showing for what's a decisive final game for the WNBA season. Seemed like a lot of questionable calls here and there, but, you know, could be turn one of those things, hey, we don't remember. And then this, you know, the league takes off from here. Although I think it was part of the news today that the players opted out of their collective bargaining agreement, you know, looking for a bigger slice of the pie now that, you know, this was kind of the biggest year ever. From a ratings and interest and tickets, everything for the WNBA.
[01:11:28] Speaker A: Well, one thing I like about playoff basketball is, you know, especially this past year, I thought what the NBA did with the rules and kind of let guys get more aggressive. Cause all the. All the shit talking, right? I like the league was kind of getting soft and again, like a little too ticky tacky. That was pretty awesome. They were letting the girls play in this game five. And then all of a sudden they call some bullshit calls at the end. That's what kind of like sour the whole thing. Not a good look.
[01:11:51] Speaker B: She got that old Dwayne Wade treatment, huh? You get a little finger, a little fingernail, breathe on him, get a little foul call, dude.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it was bad. You know, it was marginal contact at best. Not worth honestly, you probably see a lot of NBA players get that foul called. So I don't know. Maybe I'm overreacting.
[01:12:11] Speaker B: Well, yeah, like you guys said, I mean, typically game five, WBA finals or any kind of playoff series, men's or women's, you want. You want the players to decide the game. So unless it has a huge impact on the game, on the play, you kind of just let it go. It sounds like, from what you guys have said, that this should have probably just been a play on the, you know, no foul on the arm, maybe a possible block, maybe a charge could have gone either way. Sounds like. I mean, yeah. WNBA Jason mentioned, well, you know, getting out of that CBA agreement they've got. I sent Roma a link earlier. Interesting that the WNBA's reportedly lost $40 million in revenue this season, and then they pull this stunt to get out of the CBA.
So it would be interesting to see where the WBA goes forward.
[01:13:00] Speaker A: All right, I think we'll probably do an NBA pod sometime this week.
I think it kicks off tomorrow, but the real season kicks off Wednesday.
Well, let's move on to bigger and better things, the World Series.
[01:13:17] Speaker C: I thought you were to talk about Formula one in Austin this weekend.
[01:13:21] Speaker A: Actually, let's get the Formula on quick, and then we'll take a little quick break and then talk about the World Series.
[01:13:25] Speaker B: But we might as well save the World Series for Thursday, because if it one is until Friday, just kind of like, build some suspense and get this Formula one going. What do you guys.
[01:13:33] Speaker A: Actually. Yeah, sure. Yeah, let's do it.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: I'm. I'm curious to see what Jason got to say about Formula one. He's got some controversy in Austin, which seems to be the headline this weekend.
[01:13:42] Speaker A: Let's hear it, Jay.
[01:13:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, just like the. The Texas Georgia game, where some controversial reversal of decisions, but had a big win. Us Grand Prix in Austin. Ferrari one two finish. First time they've had a one two finish since the early two thousands. Charlotte Claire won the race. Carlos signs his teammates finished second. They started third and fourth. And really on the first lap, you know, interesting track that they have in Austin at the Circuit of the Americas. The straightaway is basically a straight uphill to a sharp kind of hairpin turn that kind of gets the whole traffic, usually a lot of congestion there early on. And the Ferraris were able to blow past. Where are the two points leaders and Max Verstappen and Lando Norris? The controversy kind of fast forwarding to at a certain point, the Ferraris were well ahead in first and second and Verstappen and Norris are really going back and forth for, for the points lead right now. And Norris and the McLarens have really had the best car here, probably the second pass of the season. But Verstappen's got basically a 57 point lead in the drivers championship overall. Max Verstappen, for those that don't know, three time defending champion last year, won the driver's championship by, like a landslide margin. He won all but three races last year. This year has been much more competitive while he still has the points lead, hasn't had the car. So he's basically bad, like an inferior car, where he's kind of just been dragging this thing to the finish line and has some pretty good results that his teammate has not. Controversy happened as Lando, Norris, and the McLaren caught up to him with about seven to ten laps to go and really got into a sharp turn. Verstappen basically looks like what he would blocks him forces Lando off the track. Lando passes him, and then at the end of the race, the stewards, which, for the uninitiated, are like kind of the officials of Formula One, give Lando a five second penalty, which basically gives the position back to Verstappen after the race ends. And Verstappen actually gains points on Lando Norris, and so leads with a bigger championship league coming out of Austin that he went into. So you got f one conspiracies left and right, because there was a lot of things within that race of similar moves that had happened that did not warrant any sort of penalties. But good shape to be, as Lando is trying to have, you know, this chase down Verstappen here in the last couple races. This may have been kind of a clinching point for the Red Bull team to make sure Verstappen wins a fourth straight world championship.
[01:16:25] Speaker B: How many races we got left for this?
[01:16:27] Speaker A: Just started.
[01:16:29] Speaker C: Now we got only five races left to go. So this is the first of a triple header. So they're going down into Mexico here this next week upcoming for the Mexico Grand Prix out of Mexico City. So that's a pretty good track. It's a little bit different. One of, probably one of my favorites on the schedule. And then after that, the week after, they're down in Brazil, and so that'll be a pretty big thing. Then a couple week breaks, and we got Las Vegas, and then finished the last two in the Middle east at Qatar and Abu Dhabi. So. So five races to go. It's plenty of points up for the grabs, but it's going to be a pretty tight championship race. Red Bull hasn't had the car for the last couple of months, and Verstappen has basically been kind of defensive drive and dragging this thing into the finish line. So Ferrari is the one kind of interesting coming on. So for those that also don't know, there's two championships that go on in Formula One. You have the drivers championship, which is mostly what everyone cares about. And then you have the constructors championship. The constructors is basically the team championship. So there's 20 cars, there's ten teams. So basically it's the championship of where do your two cars finish? So, Red Bull was clearly in the lead up until a couple races ago. McLaren has passed them in first. Now Ferrari, with a one two finish, is now only eight points behind Red Bull to finish second in the constructor. So Red Bull, which had been dominant here the past couple seasons, have now look in their fortresses turn, and, you know, they're going to be the outside looking in, potentially all the way down to third.
[01:18:04] Speaker B: Sounds interesting, man. I'm gonna have to start watching some of this stuff, man.
[01:18:08] Speaker C: I'm just saying it's drama. I think the one thing about Formula one, as you get into it, number one, tons of controversy, tons of rumor, and, you know, silliness when it comes to where these drivers are going, coming and going. The other thing to the, you know, the modern television audience of no attention, spanish formula run races, a clean hour and a half, you know, you're in, you're out. There's only like 57 laps, you know, usually not that long. So a lot of stuff going on, but that's what peaks my interest on a Sunday morning. This was a Sunday afternoon, so. But some good races come up here to end the season.
[01:18:47] Speaker A: So who do you got as a favorite to end?
[01:18:51] Speaker C: Before that race? I would have said Lando. Norris was. I think the McLaren was a superior car, but I think Lando's potentially running out of time.
I think Verstappen, at this point, is probably going to hold him off and win the drivers championship, but McLaren still going to win the constructors.
[01:19:06] Speaker A: I'm just looking at some Reddit feeds, and, like you were saying, like, Norris has to smarten up. Otherwise, Verstappen is just going to keep on embarrassing him.
[01:19:16] Speaker C: I think the one thing you see for Norris, early in the season, he has been plagued by his inability to get a fast start off the line. So, Rome talk. You talked about this like, passing in Formula one isn't the biggest thing. It's a very strategic thing to pass people in Formula one. It's not like NASCAR Indycar, where a lot of stuff goes back and forth. There's, there are strategic turns in every track that you have to make your kind of passing moves. And so if you get a bad start off a line, from a start, and lose positioning, it could potentially ruin your race. And Norris probably should have a couple more wins on his, under his belt throughout the year. But his loss, positioning, even his teammate Oscar Piastri and the other McLaren, because of some bad starts. And then I think the aggressiveness back a few races ago, where Lando went aggressive for the first time, actually made contact with Verstappen.
Damage to both cars. Verstappen that was able to finish the race, Norris wasn't. So there's some learning definitely there. But Max is one of the best drivers in the world, if not the best, but he is one of the more aggressive drivers out there when it comes to blocking, but really knows how to maximize it where it's on the edge of the rules at all points. So as your take on LeBron getting calls and doing this and that first stepping is the one really doing this. And he did that at a younger age, where me, I'm a big Lewis Hamilton fan. Lewis Hamilton's, you know, probably one of the greatest drivers of all time. If not, he's the.
[01:20:45] Speaker B: He's the goat in Formula one, isn't.
[01:20:46] Speaker C: Hedgesthem, he's the goat. And that's where my weekend as good as the Bears and the Notre Dame has me feeling. Louis Hamilton was out on the like, third lap of the Austin, which is pretty unfortunate. There was not some great things on the Mercedes car. This is his last year with Mercedes. But when Lewis was in kind of his heyday, winning, you know, his 6th and 7th championship, and even going for the 8th or Stappin was on the rise. And there was a lot of like, iffy stuff happening between them two as they were battling for the, the front, where Verstappen making some overly aggressive moves that were borderline where now it's kind of baked into who Verstappen is as a driver. And he does get away with this stuff, and it's kind of what his reputation is. But, you know, it has got him to three and on the cusp of four consecutive world championships.
[01:21:29] Speaker B: So I'm looking at some mods here, Jason. So who do you think is going to win the constructors championship?
[01:21:35] Speaker C: I think McLaren wins. I think they have good.
[01:21:37] Speaker B: They're, they're a big favorite. They're nine to one favorite, and then second, they've got Ferrari here. You'd agree with that. Followed by red bull.
[01:21:43] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:21:45] Speaker B: Okay. And then who do you got winning the drivers championship? I think Verstappen and then Lando second.
[01:21:54] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:21:55] Speaker B: Okay. That's how the odds line up. Everybody else is basically like 5000 and 14,001 it to beat those two.
[01:22:03] Speaker C: At this point, there's not enough points left. I think that's where, if you would have went into this weekend, I would have said Lando, and the odds probably lined up for that. But at this point, just finishing ahead or within a position of each other doesn't lead enough points to catch up for the kind of leader stappins that has. It'll. It would take really like a Di DNF at this point to really alter, um, you know, Verstappen being out of the lead, but five races to go, a lot of things can change. I can be up here, you know, a week from now, boring Rome to death, talking about what happened at the Mexico GP and, you know, see what happened. But it could be exciting. Um, and when you think of back to Max Verstappen's first world championship, it was really a duel against him versus Lewis Hamilton. To the last race. It was winner take all. It's probably one of the best Formula One moments there's been out there where it was really down to it, in my personal opinion. A lot of people, Lewis Hamilton got hosed. They basically changed the rules mid race. That delivered for stab in the championship, wherever Lilly should have won. But I think that if we're lucky enough, it comes down to Abu Dhabi and who kind of wins that. I think that would be the best thing for Formula One.
[01:23:14] Speaker B: So who do you think is going to win the Mexico race? I've got the odds up right now.
[01:23:22] Speaker C: Interesting.
So it's going to be between Ferrari.
[01:23:28] Speaker B: Verstappen is plus 268, Lando's plus 270. So they basically got him even to win the race.
[01:23:37] Speaker C: I think Lando's got the better par.
[01:23:40] Speaker B: What about this Charles?
[01:23:42] Speaker C: Charles Leclerc?
[01:23:43] Speaker B: Yeah, he's actually favored.
[01:23:45] Speaker C: So he won that this week in Austin. He's in the Ferrari.
He's third, and he's third in the driver's points.
Many considered one of the next great drivers up there. Just hasn't put it together for a full season.
The Ferrari is an interesting car. It kind of goes week to week at some times where it felt like a lot of times it could have been the fastest car.
[01:24:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what Rome's got parked in his garage. That Ferrari, he knows all about that.
[01:24:12] Speaker C: He knows where they're at.
[01:24:13] Speaker B: He knows all about that speed.
[01:24:15] Speaker C: The Ferraris are really interesting.
Yeah, I think it's going to be down to probably Lando or Leclerc for the winter. I think Lando and the McLaren probably. You can see a good result out of here. There will be a ton of buzz, though. I haven't talked about Max Verstappen's teammate, Sergio Perez. He's been the liability of Red Bull, but he is from Mexico. The Mexico Grand Prix is literally what this guy shows up for. He made one of the biggest dives last year in turn one and put himself out of the race and almost flipped his car over because he was trying to basically go from Myla, like, fifth to first on the first corner down there. So while Sergio has been pretty terrible the entire year, and potentially he's going to lose his ride with Red Bull, which has been the real controversy of this year. Why Red Bull is going to lose the constructors, because Sergio is not been up there. Look for him to really show out, because this is the one race that he cares about the most, is his home. His home grand prix.
[01:25:10] Speaker B: Nice. I see him right here almost at plus 4000. So 100 to win, 4000 to win that race outright. Those are, those are great dog. Great, great dog. Odd server. Win this race. That's a good.
[01:25:22] Speaker C: It'd be an insane story. The Red Bull car hasn't there, but I think he knows this track better than probably almost anybody. And we've already seen kind of the Cinderella story this year. I was actually at that race. Lewis Hamilton won the British Grand Prix for Mercedes. Mercedes back in July when it thought, like, Lewis is kind of done. The Mercedes hasn't been the dominant cardinal. Uh, and he won his home grand prix. So if you're looking for something here for Sergio Perez at a long shot, that could be one you can see out there.
[01:25:52] Speaker B: Yeah, let's get it out there, man. Get this pot out there. Sergio Perez, man. Get there. Get Jason. The guy's hot. The guy is hot. I would take. I would definitely put 1020 bucks on it, man. Yeah, it's worth at least passing up a beer on the weekend to see if the guy could bring home the bacon, man. For sure.
[01:26:08] Speaker A: I'm just reading. He was a runner up last year, the driver's championship, and. But, yeah, he just got where that he is gonna get fired. So there's a fire underneath his ass.
[01:26:18] Speaker C: Yep.
[01:26:20] Speaker A: It's all like in the last 24 hours, all this news.
[01:26:24] Speaker B: Crazy good stuff, man. I'm gonna. I'm gonna relisten to this segment so I can put down and look at the odds and see what happens, man. I'm fired up, man. I'm gonna pull my car out right now and get it going. Rev it up.
[01:26:34] Speaker C: You're gonna get your. Yeah, you don't got. Rome's got the Ferrari. You get. You got the Aston. You got the Aston Martin.
[01:26:40] Speaker B: Yeah. There you go.
[01:26:44] Speaker A: Nice.
All right, let's save the baseball talk then for Thursday.
[01:26:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's a long night, man. Good pod, but. Yeah, we got. We got a lot covered. For sure. Long Thursday night lines and then baseball.
Sounds good, man.
[01:27:03] Speaker A: Nothing like doing lines on a Thursday night. That's my kind of night.
[01:27:08] Speaker C: Goes from dad jokes in segment one to drug jokes to end the show.
[01:27:15] Speaker A: They said it was a drug joke.
All right. That was a fun pod.
Yeah. I don't know. I'm pretty dead tired now.
Catch.
[01:27:29] Speaker C: Formula one, man. Put him. Formula one. Put him to sleep out here.
[01:27:32] Speaker A: Aaron, dude, you got like, a nice little 15 minutes segment right there. So for.
[01:27:36] Speaker B: Man, I mean, I was. I was well informed. I've got notes. It's well informed. I've got notes. I've got odds to look at. I may. I may think about. Pin something down.
[01:27:46] Speaker C: I would say.
[01:27:47] Speaker B: We'll say Perez has got me a little excited.
[01:27:50] Speaker C: I don't know if you got the odds for podium, but if plus 4000.
[01:27:54] Speaker B: I do have six and top three. There's top six, top three. I'll screenshot, send it over to you.
[01:27:59] Speaker C: Top three is podium. So maybe if you're looking for a better Sergio Prez, probably not up there for the win, but maybe it's a podium finish. That's the top three. So I could. I could be. I could be some money there.
[01:28:09] Speaker A: It's like horse racing. I used to do all horse racing.
Catch you guys on Thursday.
