Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Ladies and gentlemen, this Source from the Sofa the podcast recording Sunday night just shy of 8:30 as my Steelers put up a big piece of dog duty on prime time. Which is surprising because in the first half they looked pretty good. They were kind of dominating until the second half of that second quarter.
And everything's just now a blur now, just like the mistakes and not capitalizing on opportunities, only getting a couple field goals. And then now the Chargers are just running away and everyone's gonna be praising them for this victory. But they've looked like dog, let's face it, for like the last four or five weeks. But they're going to improve to seven and three. Pittsburgh is going to drop down to five four and in very deep shit trouble because Baltimore picked up a very big win earlier today.
Vikings. By the way, I, I, I'm, you know, we're going to recap all, all the NFL talk a little bit about college football as well this recap weekend, baby. We'll also talk a little F1. That was a hell race. Even though I couldn't watch it, I had to watch clips. I had to watch some British guy talk about it on some live feed on Twitch and on Twitter in, in order to find out what's happening with like, you know, clips, you know, coming in every once in a while. Thought about signing up for this streaming service online that's like pretty cheap. Like they guarantee every game and every race around the world for 20 bucks a month. I'm thinking like maybe this is what I sign up for. I dropped the YouTube TV sign up for this one.
They offer affiliate so maybe we can get them as a sponsor. I don't know. If you guys want to get a, a streamer.
The sponsor, the Potter, we can push that out. They're guaranteeing 50 bucks if we get people to sign up. I don't know. I had a lot of times on my hands because I had no F1. Wasn't really filling the morning games after what looks like a to be a lot of Ls. But back to the Vikings. Go ahead.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: You put a lot of work in Rome. I just upgraded my Disney bundle there and just got the ESPN Unlimited and bit the bit the bullet and was able to watch all the festivities down in Brazil for the Sao Paulo Grand Prix. You missed a hell, hell of a race.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: I know, I know, I know. And I gotta watch more highlights.
[00:02:19] Speaker C: Just switch over to DirecTV Rome. You know, little ESP in the deuce and no problems there.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: I'm so sick of all this. I, I Knew it was gonna happen. All these streaming.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: I'll never. I'll never go back to DirecTV. I have a vendetta.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: What happened with you with DirecTV?
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Oh, an AT&T bottom. They ruined DirecTV. DirecTV was a great company that AT&T ruined.
And the customer service and what you got for the value. I mean, good value now, but the level of customer service to get what you're paying for, for DirecTV was terrible. And when I have. When I have. When they.
[00:02:53] Speaker C: When you.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: When you cross me, Rome, it's just over. I'll go. I'll pay more to go somewhere else. AT T's on the list.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: That's one that was with that. That was me with State Farm.
So we got some commonalities here, except they didn't screw me over. They just got LeBron as a spokesperson. That slightly different.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: No, no. Me is valuing customer service. And if you can't give me. If you can't give me a simple wish like, hey, you make me bundle my cell phone and my Internet and my DirecTV all into one, and then somebody can't phone.
At one point, I did. Not anymore. I got rid of it all.
[00:03:30] Speaker C: Jesus Christ.
[00:03:31] Speaker B: Because. Because all I ask for you, my man, is to be able to log into the Sunday Ticket with a username or password that would not log in. And then being told I'm an idiot because I can't log in, even though the same username or password could log into DirecTV's website, but will not log into the Sunday Ticket app. And so we got to put on customer complaint 100%. And so after four times of escalation and not being helped and no one calling me back, I said, hey, you don't want my business, I'm not going to give you anything. So we're good.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: Okay. I totally forgot what we're talking about.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:04:07] Speaker C: Recapping. Weekend recapping everything. Rome. Something about a 20 streamer service. But you didn't name the service. I'm gonna take. I'm taking it. You didn't buy it. Sounds like a little bit shady. $20 for every raise.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: The reviews are really. Are really hit or miss. People either really like it or they don't like it or things get canceled.
[00:04:25] Speaker C: It sounds like you need a VPN network and all that stuff going on. So.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not really sure what the legalities are for that streaming thing, but yeah. Anyways, weird day in the NFL. College football was a mess.
New AP rankings came out earlier today as well, where do you guys want to start? We'll start with football. Do you guys want to talk about this Chargers Pittsburgh game? Because I'm pretty livid with the results I'm seeing right now.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: I mean, I don't really want to talk about it, Rome, but I want to hear your thoughts. I. I feel you. Got you. You know, we talk a lot about my Bears.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: A lot.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: And I'm sure we'll talk about them today.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: I have a lot of Bears.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: Okay, cool. Well, why don't we start the show with comments about your Pittsburgh Steelers? You know, I feel like you don't give a lot of Steelers. You know, you. You are very unbiased hosts. I'll say. You don't talk about your team much. I think after this performance in prime time on Sunday night, we need to hear what you think about your Pittsburgh.
[00:05:19] Speaker C: 03 in prime time this year.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: It's a disgrace.
It's a disgrace. And this has been a black guy in the Mike Tomlin era, just laying up, dog every time we have a primetime game. It was an ugly game the first half. Once Aaron Rodgers went down for a safety, I was like, ah, shit, it's gonna be one of these games. And I was pissed off since then, so I've been pretty riled up. I don't know if that was in the first quarter or the beginning of the second quarter, but for me, that's when I was like, this guy couldn't do a two step to the right, two steps to the left. He ran into the defender and got sacked and just fell over like easy dominoes. He did not look mobile today. This is the first time since his jets days that he's looked his age, if not older. Even with my bum knee, I have more, actually. I wouldn't say that. I tried playing pickleball yesterday, and I got caught, like, pretty hard when someone served it pretty well. But, you know, I was moving around left and right, and Aaron Rodgers did not have that.
And. And I don't know what's going on with Metcalf. I made a big trade in fantasy football for Metcalf, and. And so far, it's. It's.
It's not panning out. It's not panning out.
My daughter was not here, all right? So we've lost every game that she's not with me. I'm not happy about that either, you know, so just a lot to be desired with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they're in deep, man.
Baltimore, they didn't play a great game today either. By Any stretch of the imagination.
And, and, and I know I'm a, I'm a J.J. mcCarthy fan, but I'm, I'm not listening to this, like ultra Eagle when you just have like two wins, okay? I don't give a whether you're meditating in the beginning, you know, little rich white kid stuff. I don't give a. Dude try coming from the hood, all right? No alter Eagle that. All right? And then they had a chance to win that game and didn't come through. I really needed them to come through with the points, you know, at least get a touchdown.
So, yeah, Steelers not good. It's not looking good. It's time for a fire sell. Unfortunately, the trade deadline already passed. We should have got a second receiver. We have nobody. We have nobody. We have nothing.
Defense, you know, they looked phenomenal last week. This week they looked great for the first quarter and a half. After that, they're just letting everyone drive by them, you know.
So that's it?
That's it. Season's over. I think that's over, over already.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: I will say this, you know, I'm sure Jason's got a lot to come and I mean, I think this was prelude leading up to the week because Rome on our last potted Thursday was just barking like a dog. He was already getting worked up and it just kind of carried over as we see right now into the weekend. He's, he's just worked up like a big old bulldog here. Just worked up, man.
[00:08:07] Speaker A: Not happy, man.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: Rome, I, I, I get you're not happy, Rome, but your Steelers are in first place still in the division.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: You know how many times we give it up? First place leads. It's a tradition.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Now listen, Mike Tomlin just needs to get to nine wins. He's the staple of getting above 500 and he's already more than halfway there. And you know, the afc, generally speaking, is the superior conference and you got all these great quarters quarterbacks, but I don't think it's that good of a conference this year. Rome, I think you got a lot of question marks around this conference. So I'll, I'll be honest, like, it doesn't look great. This, this performance was not great at all. I, I get, I'll be honest, I was shocked that Rogers is he 17 touchdowns, five interceptions this year. I mean, it's not terrible numbers. Like, I, I, you know, it's, there's still something there. I mean, Roma, you know, with all due respect to your pickleball game, I, I don't think you can move better than Aaron Rodgers around in the pocket. I think he still got something left in the tank, but I'll say it doesn't look great. Doesn't look great. The Ravens, What, Aaron, what? Two weeks ago they were 2 and 5 and you said they were favored to win the division.
[00:09:19] Speaker C: And those odds are only going to go up now more right, given that they're 4 and 5 and Pittsburgh's kind of falling back to 5 and 4. So.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: Yeah, they have. But I think there's still something to fight for. Rome, I know you want to give up.
Speaking as a long suffering fan of an NFL team, I think you can't give up just yet. You got, you got to believe.
[00:09:37] Speaker A: By the way, watching your Bears play, man, gave me a heart attack. I'm just like, who can it? How can anyone root for this Bears team? Dude, this is crazy.
[00:09:44] Speaker C: I mean, we'll get, we'll get into the Bears. I gotta ask because I didn't have the audio on that game. Why weren't they kicking field goals? Like, is something wrong with their kicker? Like every time they're at the 31, they're like going forward for fourth and four. It's like, dude, just kick a 50 yard field goal.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: It was, it was.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: Are you talking about the Bears? Yeah, it was the wind.
[00:10:01] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Because the wind was so, the wind was so bad. And they said on the broadcast like neither kicker on either side had anything confidence of anything beyond 40 because of where the ball was like going.
[00:10:12] Speaker C: I figured it had something. It was pretty windy because I didn't, like I said I didn't have the audio on that one. And I was like, I mean like, what the hell's going on? These guys just keep, you know, I think it was the first game in NFL history that like three, three turnovers and downs on like the first quarter of a game.
[00:10:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I think they, they looked at the, they, they didn't understand exactly what the wind was gonna be doing. And so anything beyond 40, they basically were saying they, they are going to go for it or it's going to be some sort of strategic punt or whatever it might have been. So yeah, there was, that was the elements, you know, I know a lot of people don't like that type of football. To me, I like it. That's the real football, man. You get to this time of year in the Midwest and in the Northeast, we get snow, we get wind, the elements come into play.
[00:10:54] Speaker C: Why we got a 95 degree weather out here in SoCal today?
[00:10:58] Speaker B: Oh, it's Terrible this place is, you.
[00:10:59] Speaker A: Know, it was burning a lot.
[00:11:01] Speaker C: Rain coming, what, Wednesday, Thursday.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: It was warm.
I heard it was blazing hot in Santa Clara. And that little tinfish thing, pretty hot here in Cali. All right, so we started out in Berlin, which Atlanta came out pretty hot.
And people were jumping on Daniel Jones right from the get go, on X and on threads. But then Daniel Jones, bloody lip and all, brought them back.
Him and his trusty sidekick, probably, in my opinion, the MVP front runner, Taylor dominating with three rushing touchdowns and got them back to winning formation. Unfortunately, I had them in the sixth and a half to cover and that hook cost me because there's no extra kicks in overtime, is there, guys?
[00:11:50] Speaker C: Only if you score. Only if you score on the first possession, Rome. So they would have scored first. You kick the extra point, then Atlanta has a chance to do that. Once it becomes a second possession, any score after that is a win. So they don't take an extra point.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: Yeah, we started there, but besides that, I thought it was a pretty gritty, gutsy come back from behind performance.
Atlanta, we talked about this. Which team is going to show up? Obviously a way better version showed up this week. But besides that, though, best wins, best losses or biggest losses.
Jason, I'll let you pick which way you want to go first.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: Well, I don't want to jump off this game really quick. I don't know if you could say that Jonathan Taylor is the sidekick in this.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: Tandem with Daniel Jones because it, as you're saying, he could be in the MVP conversation right now.
Massive runs put them into this game because I think it was down, you know, early for the Falcons going in the game. But I just, I just want to make sure I know we're going to talk about quarterbacks when it gets to MVP all the time. And I'm sure, you know, Jonathan Taylor will get pushed to the side because it's only quarterbacks generally to win this award. But what he is, what he means to that team and his performance so far this year is pretty incredible. You think 244 yards in this game, just insane.
But all right, would you ask me.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Biggest win now you want to go biggest win or biggest loss, ass whooping in the week?
[00:13:13] Speaker B: I would say biggest win. I think I want a game with some stakes and where things are at. And Aaron may have talked about this before we started recording was when we were talking with, you know, some of the best teams in the league. To me, the Patriots beating the Buccaneers, that's a showdown of two teams that are Supposed to be going into the playoffs. And, and I think what they got out of Henderson in that game we've been waiting to go through, I think the defense from the Patriots, what they stacked up even in that game, you had offensive performance on, I think on both sides, Baker's able to find his rookie wide receiver pretty much anywhere. That guy, I'm not gonna mispronounce his name. What is it? Aaron?
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Amika? Angbuka.
[00:14:01] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: I mean, I mean, he was, he was great in the game. But I think the Patriots, when you see this run that they're going on right now, just continue. Continues to be oppressive. I mean, think 12 months ago where this team was and even like the last, what, three, four years post Brady, of how the Patriots have looked and they are competitive in all of these games. They win the games they should.
They've gone into Buffalo and won a close game. They go down to Tampa Bay and win this game. Like winning big games on the road mean, that's the test of a true, like, really good team. And you know, there's we, we've been waiting for the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Bills to kind of take this, you know, conference, you know, this is going to be the AFC Championship game. We long talked about it. But that win putting them at 8 and 2 right now, I think they're a real 8 and 2, unlike Rome. I think you're pretty much calling the Broncos frauds at 8 and 2, but I think this has been an 8 and 2 in a run of. However, it was six straight wins or seven straight wins, whatever was that. This has been a progressive run. Seven now and this one's. I think this is like a cherry on top of an impressive run to do another big road win.
[00:15:12] Speaker C: Yeah, I would agree. I mean, that's got to be the biggest win. I mean, we kind of question the Patriots.
You know, they had a couple games against some teams that not so good. Impressive three game road win streak that they had. They've now won at Buffalo and one at Tampa Bay. Those are not easy places to play. I know Buffalo's been kind of up and down, Tampa's been banged up. But to win seven in a row with a quarterback that's basically partially still like in his first year, given he only played what, maybe nine, 10 games last year, only nine, 10 games into this year.
They're looking really good. They are looking really good at finding playmakers. But I'm more impressively, that defense has been really good. They've turned it around.
The players that they've Gotten to bring in. They've panned out so far. They are, like Jason mentioned, a real threat. I think I mentioned to you, Rome. They got to be in your top four in the new power eight because they are just that good right now with big wins on the road.
I mean, looking at their schedule right now, they've got where they got.
Got the Jets, Cincinnati and the Giants. So you could be looking at a team that's going 11 and two going into their buy. When it's all said and done. That's. That's pretty impressive.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: 100. Yeah. Henderson had a big game. Buck 47, two touchdowns.
It's not like the Bucs didn't do well either. It was kind of like a.
Kind of like a heavyweight fight, at least for the first half, you know. Touchdown. Field goal. Touchdown.
Patriots going up.
Tez Johnson showed up amica. Mbuka had a great game. Baker Mayfield, three touchdowns, but Patriots look nice.
[00:16:49] Speaker C: You still got Tez Johnson on your team, Rome.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: Well, I had a. I had Nico and I had DK Metcalf starting, so there was no room for Tez. And I wish I had him in the starting lineup because DK has not done anything for me.
[00:17:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, thanks for bringing it up. I. I mean, I knew you had them based off your enthusiasm. I figured he wasn't in your lineup. Yeah.
[00:17:14] Speaker A: No.
[00:17:15] Speaker C: Two touchdowns a day.
[00:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah. Big window. Any other nominees?
[00:17:21] Speaker C: Aaron, for big win or big loser?
[00:17:24] Speaker A: Today I do another big win first. Let's get some big wins here.
[00:17:29] Speaker C: I would say we're looking at big wins. You got to go with the Ravens, right? I mean, Cincinnati's on a buy. The Steelers and Browns both losing the division. Everyone was on the road. And you go and get a road game victory, you're now what, one game out from taking that division lead. They're getting healthy.
They're, you know, their stock is on the rise. Rome, you just went on a five minute round about how the Steelers are done and they're on the decline.
So, yeah, I mean, if you're the Ravens, you got to be feeling really, really good. You get Cleveland, the Jets and Cincinnati, followed by Pittsburgh, Cincinnati again. So they should win four of those next five games, barring, you know, injuries and whatnot. But it's. It's shaping up pretty nicely for them. So that was a nice win against Minnesota, who's, you know, JJ played okay. They had eight ball starts on offense at home. I don't really put the loss on him. They just had a lot of mental errors, fumbles on Kickoffs and capitalize on it. Yeah, I mean he dropped a touchdown. He hit him.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:31] Speaker C: So I saw some things I like from him. But for the Ravens getting that defense kind of back together, that was a real mess. You know, went into the bye week, got Lamar healthy. They've kind of turned it around there and offensively they're looking good. I mean they were averaging almost 40 points a game before he went out anyways for that injury. So the Ravens are a real threat as a sneaky team.
Heck, if they win the division, you know they're going to host a home game. So it's going to be tough to beat those guys if they can host a home game in the playoffs.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: I'll give you guys a couple big wins.
Texans I thought was a big win against the Jags. Coming back from be behind.
I had the Texas D and I didn't put him in but like I mentioned, one of the highest scoring defenses in the NFL. They got their hands up, deflected, provided pressure, really took control of that second half that was. That allowed them to call come back from behind. Well, they get, they get that late pick.
[00:19:24] Speaker C: They get that late pick six. That really helped. If you had their defense from. I mean it was just a lot. It was a lucky. It was a fluke play.
It was, it happens.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: Another big win I would say would be the Colts. You know, Falcons, they're good, they're not good but it's still very talented team. They've had some pretty surprising wins. This was looking like it was going to be another like okay, let's take them seriously again. But the Colts deliver when they had to. All the marks of a really good team.
People were jumping off Daniel Jones bandwagon really fast in the first quarter on X on all the socials but he helped bring them back along with Jonathan Taylor with his three touchdowns and 240 on the ground. Complete beast. Tyler Warren per usual being a nice scapegoat for Jones on the outside.
The other couple games I want to do are big wins but ass whipping. What's the Seahawks dude? Seahawks laid an ass open and yeah I thought it was actually going to be pretty competitive and it was not ass whooping. Another ass whooping is the rams on the 49ers. I text a whole bunch of people I know I took the Niners but for straight up today I was texting people like you know what after I talk talk to some people like you know what Rams are going to probably want to get back at after taking that l early in the season when everyone was injured on the Niners and they brought it to them and they there, there. There was no chance in hell the Nines were coming back and a lot of that was in garbage time. That was an ass whooping. And then as well as the Dolphins at the Bills they just put it on the Bills and that's two games now this year that the Bills have come out straight up flat and not performing up to standards.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know what topic are doing anymore. Rome. Cause you just named ask. These are ass kickings of the week. I would have nominated the Bills losing to the Dolphins as the ass kicking of the week because you cannot come out like this if you're the Bills. If you're a team that's hoping to win the super bowl and even get to the Super Bowl. Just a starting point of a team that's been on the cusp and can't get past the Ravens or the Chiefs every year and you get this big win in prime time against the Chiefs and you got a lowly Dolphins team that's just struggling and where it's at and you put up this performance. And especially in light of the Patriots being as good as they are right now, you're going to have the showdowns with them. Aaron, you mentioned it's coming up right. Patriots and yeah, let's see.
[00:21:59] Speaker C: We Got Patriots Week 15 so we're about a month out.
So Patriots come out and have and host Buffalo.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: Well I mean so that works out even better for the Patriots there with their buy. So I just think that's the ass whipping of the week out of anything. It's. I think it's, it's a, the worst loss of the week even. You mentioned going back to the Texans Jags. I don't think that's a big win for the Texans as much as it's a terrible loss for the Jags. The Texans are pretty much out of it and the Jags at 5 and 3 before this game were to try to keep pace with Indianapolis and be with some of the contenders in the AFC. You dropping back to nine and four or five and four, you're is two.500 teams that ain't going to make a dent compared to what's the rest of the AFC in the playoff title thing. So I think it's just a big blown game for the Jags and probably kills their momentum where they could be for the season.
Yeah, I think you're right on the Niners, you know and the Rams. The Rams, they probably got to be up in your top two in best teams in the NFL. Maybe number one when you come to the power rankings. The Niners defense, it just ain't great. Same as my Bears. I think they got what they can do on an offense but defense, they're just getting ran through. They just don't got the guys right now and you can only do some smoke and mirror so much. And when it comes to the Rams offense, man, they just got a lot of different ways. Especially they have three tight ends involved during in that offense. You got Stafford doing no look passes to people and all sorts of stuff. Like it's a really good offense. McVeigh always been one of my favorite coaches in the league. They've gotten some of this rebuilding done since they won the super bowl as some of the personnel is kind of turned over. They still have a pretty solid defense but yeah, it's pretty unstoppable team but all of them, you think ass whipping but I think the Bills, that one, that one hurts the most. Worst loss and biggest ass whip in there to me.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: Aaron, was that the worst loss or you got any other nominees for that one?
[00:23:47] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, Buffalo's up there. I think another bad loss after I jumped on the bag Wan again is Carolina. Oh, you got Carolina losing at home against a bad Saints team not even showing up. They get seven points. Look for that.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: Are they Atlanta number two?
[00:24:03] Speaker C: Well, they play Atlanta next week so we're going to find out which one's real and which one's not. After that 30 nothing. You know, what was it week two? They beat those guys. But yeah, I mean this was a chance to get to 6 and 4 for Carolina. Tampa Bay loses in the division. They dropped to 6 and 3 I believe with that loss.
So this was a big, big game for Carolina and they just came out just flat. They didn't. They really got nothing going. That was a huge loss at home. I think you know that's going to be one team. Whoever wins the division is getting to the playoff. That's it. One and done.
Agree with Jason. Buffalo, I think Jacksonville, it's a huge loss. They're not going to win the division. I don't see they're catching Indianapolis, but they're trying to stay ahead of the Chiefs.
Stay pace with the Chargers now at seven wins for a wild card spot. Considering that division is going to get is going to get at least two, maybe three teams in with the Chiefs, Chargers and Broncos all likely headed towards 910 wins. So you got to try to get that so I mean, yeah, Bills, Jaguars, Panthers, all losing. Those were, those were bad losses this week. But Buffalo for sure now you're two games behind or a game and a half, whatever it is.
And you got to go to New England and New England, since they finished what last last year in the division, they got the easiest schedule remaining.
So it's, it's setting up real nice for them. I don't think they're going to let off the gas or a young team likely going to win 12 games at a minimum.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: Yeah, Bills might be the biggest loss besides the Steelers.
[00:25:35] Speaker C: That's not a good loss for them either.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: Not a good loss.
All right. We kind of touched on every game, more or less. Really close games, really fascinating games.
Jetson Browns was actually pretty entertaining. I was not planning on having that as part of the four game mix, but once I saw that they were up, I'm like, I have to see what the hell is going on. And I don't know if you saw the stat though. It was something like, something crazy. Like 2 yards of like offense in one of the quarters. It's, it's pretty, it's pretty crazy. They pull out their second win in a row and then Giants, Bears, Giants losing another one when they were up by at least 10 points with less than nine minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Jason, I know you shared some tweet. I saw some other people tweeting about it. How Giants, the first team in history, correct me if I'm wrong, to have like a 90 plus percent probability to win the game and straight up lose it.
So Aaron, since you're a big Giants head coach backer, does he deserve to still keep his job?
[00:26:46] Speaker C: Yes. I mean, look, I mean, let's just be honest. If Jackson dort doesn't get hurt, are they losing this game?
Maybe not. I mean, I think the real question for me, for Dables, why does he keep bringing Russell Wilson and where's Jameis Winston?
Why is this guy not coming in?
I mean, Russell Wilson, as soon as he came in the game, I knew the Bears are going to win.
I mean, if I had like a thousand dollars, I would have went to the live bet. He could bet the Bears money line at plus whatever. Because as soon as Russell Wilson comes in, it's a disaster. It's a nightmare. The guy has like zero confidence. He hands off first and second down and throws it 50 yards down the field, but he can't throw it down the field because Jason said it's windy so he can't even complete a pass.
And then, you know, they, you know, Dable got, you know, why he was kicking a field goal. I mean, he's kicking a field goal because Russell Wilson can't give him any points. He's just hoping that defense can hold on, and they just can't. They can't hold on. I mean, the 33 to nothing or what is it, 260 lead that they blew against the Broncos, that one's going to hurt them. I mean, the Dallas game, that was just a wild shootout. And then you have this game against the Bears, you know, we talked about. I mean, they've.
What do they even have skilled players offensively? Louis Scatter. Boo neighbors. I mean, they should. They should have won this game. I mean, Jackson dart. Bad turnover again. He's had some bad turnovers. You can't put that on coaching. Fumbling the ball. That's basic one on one. Tuck the ball in tight, take the contact, go down there.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: He's gonna get.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: He's gonna get. He's gonna get fired. But he'll. He'll get hired somewhere else, at least as an OC and maybe he comes back as a head coach. But, yeah, I think that. I think the writing's on the wall that he's gonna be out in New York and we'll see who ends up going there.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: Jason.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I. Aaron's absolutely right. I think I asked this very beginning of the year of where Jameis was at, because I think he should have been the starter right away instead of Jackson Dart. And I know Jackson darts some. Done some great stuff, but why Jameis isn't even dressed to be the backup at this point. And we're putting Russell Wilson on. Don't understand that. I usually don't like to criticize like the coaches on who's starting, not starting because they see them in practice. But I don't know what. I don't know what you're getting out of Russell Wilson. There. There is the moment. I don't remember which play it was, but it looked like he was in slow motion watching Russell Wilson run, try to run up the middle, and the Bears player just grabbed him and pulled him backwards before he got anywhere. If it was Jackson Dart, it probably would have been a touchdown.
[00:29:00] Speaker C: Yeah, we saw what Jackson Dart was doing. We ran up the middle. He's getting first downs and touchdowns.
Russell Wilson gets one yard.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: Yeah, a friend. A friend of mine texted me. He's like, I just. Because he just wanted to be a troll, asking who's better. Jackson started darter Caleb Williams in that Game and he's just trying to troll me. But, you know, I just put out. Jackson darts run a lot. He throws the stats. He's like, jackson darts only run twice. I'm like, ah, it feels like he's running more. But this is the type of thing where these guys run and they don't, you know, do things the smart way when they're running in the NFL. Not only did he fumble that ball, but that's the ball he got. That was the play he got concussed on and really why he lost the game. So, you know, we talked about Jaden with this. I don't know if it was our preview episode, you know, last week or the post game. These guys that run and do these different things and take the hits in the NFL and maybe are, maybe are, are not built for it. I know Jackson's dark. Scott is just kind of bravado and he's got this, this toughness thing they were talking about with his dad and the way things are out there. It's all great and all, but man, all these guys are huge and everyone's really fast. And so if you're going to be the franchise quarterback, that's the one position you need to protect and be out there. And today would have been the perfect examples. Yeah. And I think the game was over and the Giants were going to win and him going out and Russell Wilson being in there gave the Bears all the ammunition to go through. Aaron's right. Day ball is a good coach. I just don't know if he falls in that thing. Is he a great offensive coordinator and never going to be a good head coach? I don't know because. But Ben Johnson's delivering right now. Is the question on him was like, oh, is he just a scheme guy? Rome, quit shaking your head.
[00:30:33] Speaker C: Go ahead, Go ahead. No, hey, we are missing. They're missing him in Detroit. We'll get into that.
[00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah, the commentary on Ben Johnson going to this was he's just a scheme guy. He's not a leader of men's stuff. Well, you know, you can watch as many post game videos of Ben Johnson with these guys after they win a game. And Ben Johnson is the leader of men and the Bears have had a lot of questionable games that under Matt Eberfluss and other bad head coaches that were close one possession games. They lost those games this year, they are winning those games and I think that's where coaching does matter. So if you tell me these three games where day ball had like a 99% chance of probability of winning the games and they've blown all of them. I think there was four times in the fourth quarter. They've had a 10 point plus lead or something this year and they've lost all of those games. You know, that is, that is some coaching that there's player performance, but there's some coaching element to that too. And I think those are the questions that I think needs to be answered. Whether, you know, Dabo keeps his job or loses his job and gets another opportunity. Like those are those head coach things that comes into it and guys being cool under pressure. I mean we talked about the Gannon thing from a couple weeks ago when he, you know, you know, punches, you know, D. Mercado or whatever. It was like a lot of coaches, the best ones are the ones that almost have no emotion when things are going up and down during the game and they save it till after the game. And some of it also becomes decisions and where these guys are at doing. And one close games like this, well, you know what, what some of the decisions they ball is doing comes into question and that's just where it goes to go because I think the Giants definitely should have won this game.
[00:32:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean Dable has got to be questioned because two of those three losses, the quarterback in the fourth quarter, the 10 point lead is Russell Wilson. I mean the Giants game, you know, I, we talked early in the pod. I think after week one room, I buried Russell Wilson. I said he was done. He came out week two and he came out week two. He threw for like 455 yards, looked great. And then week three, the real Russell Wilson showed up and he was done. That was it. It was a wrap. They wanted him out.
He comes in this game again, just looks terrible, looks lost.
Just trying to run out to the right, throw it away, run in the middle like Jason said, gets tackled for 12 yard play. The same plays that Jackson dart was executing. Russell Wilson was not even close to executing. So. But again, we're not at practice like Jason said, why is he the number two? You know, is maybe something wrong with James Winston that he's just not. Is he hurt because he seems to be coaching up more? I don't know. Is he there more for a mentor role? They didn't even try to trade him at the trade deadline from what I heard.
So I really don't know what his role is there.
So yeah, I mean it's going to come down to, like you said, coaching. That's going to be part of it. If you go back to the Broncos game, they had that game one Jackson dart, threw a bad, bad interception that led to like a pick six late in that game. That really got the Broncos back in it. But yeah, you got to definitely take blame and accountability for pitting what players you have active on your roster in that position. When all three of us, I think on this panel will agree, Russell Wilson has no business suiting up on Sundays anymore.
[00:33:36] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, they gotta take better care of Jackson tart, that's for sure because people are just dropping like flies and he doesn't have the same stature as an Allen or Mahomes. So we'll see what happens there.
You said you want to make some comments about Ben Johnson being with Chicago, with the Lions.
Go ahead, man.
[00:33:58] Speaker C: I mean, well, Rome, I mean, Jason brings up Ben Johnson, you started shaking your head and we're already what, not even halfway in the year. I left a comment on the board and said, look, Dan Campbell's already demoting his OC and he's calling plays himself.
He's demoting him. Anytime a coach takes over play calling duties, you've been demoted.
That's just the bottom line. I don't care what any coach or anybody says. They know it, Jason knows it, you know it. You just don't want to admit it.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: I was in, I wasn't really sure when he started taking over during today's games because they were already, well, it.
[00:34:30] Speaker C: Looks like the whole time they were, the whole time in the announcing crew, they're like, hey man, it looks like Dan Campbell's calling in plays. And then at halftime, hey, we need to Spark.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: They have 41 points at the beginning of the, of the fourth quarter. Just pretty much on cruise control after that. So when you made that comments like do they still scored a shitload of points and it was just like on cruise control.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: But well, my, my thing about this, you're talking about an offense that I mean, wasn't exactly struggling, struggling over the past like month and a half or so. So conveniently he's going to take over the play calling duty when they're playing a down and out Commanders team that's just reeling and has no, you know, quarterback. And so yeah, it looked really good for him to take it over right now, you know, when it's, when it's an easier opponent. So I, it's his team, he can do what he wants. But Aaron's exactly right. Like why is he taking over the play calling duty when it comes to this game versus the Commanders? The real Test is going to be next week against the Eagles, and so we'll see what it comes into then. But yeah, it's there, I guess something going on behind the scenes, though. He doesn't like what he was seeing. But, you know, it was never a question when Ben Johnson was there, who was calling the plays.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: The only back game they've had was the no show last week against the Vikings. That was it.
[00:35:39] Speaker C: We've had three bad games and they were all losses. They did not look good against the Chiefs and they definitely didn't show up for game one against the Packers.
So, I mean, I know when we talked about it in our kind of preseason preview, we brought up, you know, why I wasn't high on Detroit. I think Jason wasn't as high as everybody, as everyone else was. We talked about the changeover in the coaching staff. I did not believe in this coaching staff and clearly Dan Campbell doesn't either. From what I've been seeing on the slide.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: I think so. Big overreaction.
[00:36:09] Speaker C: I. I don't think so. Like Jason said, this was a top five team in office to remove him from calling play duties against a commander's team who they still would have scored 30 points of. The other guy calling plays, at least. Yeah, that says a lot. That says a lot because basically from what it looks like, from what the announcers are saying, they don't believe this. OC's calling the plays to get Williams and their other playmakers the ball in space and setting them up for positioning plays to make, to make the plays they need to, to score points.
And we'll see. And there's. There's talk. My sources tell me there's a lot of disconnect between the offensive coaching staff.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: We'll monitor it because they did score a hell of a lot of points today. Looked really nice.
Look like the lions of old. Let's, let's take a, take a step back. We solved the Monday night game tomorrow, right? Monday, Eagles and Packers. So lots at stake there. Both are leading their respective divisions.
I think you and you, Aaron and Jason, you guys have the Eagles. I took the pack. I'm not sure how I'm feeling about that.
I am facing a football fantasy team that has Jordan Love as their quarterback.
So a little nervous if he does actually have a big game comes. I'm hanging on to a victory by a thread.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: I just love, I just loving the podcast. For me, it always comes back to the Bears for Rome. It always comes back to his fantasy team for. That's like for you know whatever 50 buy in league he's playing in right now.
[00:37:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:37:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:37:39] Speaker A: I don't like.
[00:37:40] Speaker C: I don't know what Jordan Love is going to do. I mean. Yeah. With Kraft being out for them, that's. That's a big injury for the Packers.
[00:37:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty huge.
But pretty big stuff though.
It's really tight. And your guys NFC north it is super tight. Bears surprising at 6 and 3.
The most underwhelming 6 and 3 probably out there but credit to Johnson for doing a hell of a job. And Caleb, they were kind of rocking him too on socials earlier today until he got them that victory with that run. Also the text you Jason, I'm pretty sure you were cheering around when, when he got that final touchdown run. It was pretty cool.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is hilarious that people are actually going at Caleb who weren't actually watching the game because his receivers had like six drop passes in the game. That was the.
[00:38:27] Speaker A: Yeah, Rome had a few.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: Huh Passes.
Rome and Zakus had like a. Had like three or four or something like that too. So in the game. So like. And one of them was for a touchdown. So there I think it was the most dropped passes by a receiver receiving core in the. In a game so far this year.
[00:38:46] Speaker A: Sorry, man, I'm so dehydrated.
[00:38:48] Speaker B: No, you're good. I thought you had a point to make but hydration's healthy. You want to make sure on there. But yeah, I mean I'm, I'm not worried about Caleb. I mean the Bears season is always a referendum on Caleb. He is not the problem with this team. The defense is the problem with this team. The Bears have a not great defense and they'll put the stats up every time. The Bears will win if the defense gets turnovers. If they don't get turnovers, the Bears are going to lose. And that's the simplest, Zach, because the defense gives up tons of yards. I don't know how many third and forevers have been converted against this Bears defense this year. So any conversation online about Caleb, just as people just want to hate, they're not actually watching what's actually going on this game because he is engineering fourth quarter comebacks, you know, on a weekly basis right now. And overall the offense, I'll just say if they're saying negative out the offense, it just doesn't click all the time. There is not a rhythm. They make big plays. They have, you know, Ben Johnson knows how to design guys open they have big runs. Going into the week they were number.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: Two in the League and big plays.
[00:39:46] Speaker B: They're not. They were going to the week. They were number two behind the Colts and. And so I don't know where that stands right now, but yeah, they make big plays. But this it goes drive to drive and the offense just never has like the rhythm it's supposed to. And penalties have been a big part of the Bears game.
[00:39:58] Speaker A: That's fine. It's year one.
[00:40:00] Speaker B: It is. And so I think there's still more to build the bill on this. The offensive line not getting enough credit for what's going on with the Bears offensive. They may have like one of the top two tackles in the game with Darnell Wright, he was basically pushing Burns around, who's a top tier defensive end for the Giants in this game. He know you're not going to see anyone talking about offensive line play, but that's another big thing for this Bear success. But the defense is bad and that's what it's going to come down to. If you look at the end of the year, the Week 17 matchup, Bears Ners up by you Rome in the Bay Area. That could be a playing game for the playoffs right now against two teams that have not great defenses and pretty good offenses.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: I might have to go to that game. That should be pretty fun.
Well, you got some separation now in the NFC west with the Rams beating the Niners. So two game for the Niners and then the two guys on top. Bucks. Luckily the Panthers losing. So everyone's losing in that NSC South. So Bucks have a comfortable lead on the American side. Pats just taking advantage of it. Bills falling over their own feet. But that's still going to be tight, so we'll see how that comes around.
AFC North, 4, 5, 6, 7 is the order of losses. Steelers, Ravens, Bengals. Browns. Browns.
Tough loss today against the Jets. I think we can cross them off if we haven't already.
I'll let you guys decide that one.
[00:41:24] Speaker C: I think they've been dead for a while, the Browns.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: I think me and Jason officially took off the Giants last week. Right, Jason.
Because they were still on the hanging around pile.
[00:41:35] Speaker B: We were talking about it.
We didn't.
[00:41:38] Speaker C: We.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: I thought we needed Aaron's consensus on this.
[00:41:41] Speaker C: You got. You got it now. You got it now.
I ain't got the Giant. I ain't got no. I ain't got no more water in the fire hydrant. It's out. It's out, man. Get that fire out.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: They're still exciting though, man. They're still playing for their car.
[00:41:54] Speaker C: I mean. Yeah. I mean, they're exciting, but they're not going to the playoffs. They're not making it. Making it now to where is the list?
[00:42:01] Speaker A: All right, anyways, Colts, nice, comfortable lead over the Jags. Let's kind of muddle up in the middle of there. And then the AFC West Broncos are leading it 8 and 2. Chargers, big win today, man, beating a pretty good Steelers team seven and three.
And they have a lead on the Chiefs and whatever's left of the Raiders. Any final comments on the NFL?
[00:42:27] Speaker C: I'm good.
[00:42:28] Speaker A: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk a little college football.
All right, time to recap a little college football. We just wrapped up week 11. We're recording Sunday night right after all the NFL games.
New AP rankings came out. College football updated playoff rankings come out on Tuesday. I've seen a lot of people's rankings that they're doing on their own on X. A lot of people have Texas A and M as the number one team. That seems to be like the people's choice of the number one team in the country, followed by Ohio State and then Indiana. A lot of debate on whether Notre Dame belongs in the top 10. I'm seeing a lot of stuff that they don't belong in there at all.
[00:43:11] Speaker C: Who are these people?
[00:43:15] Speaker B: Miami fans are valid arguments there.
Yeah. Okay.
[00:43:23] Speaker C: Yeah, Maybe they should tell Miami to show up and actually play a football game. They've looked terrible.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Well, you know, terrible. Miami has more quality wins, but they do have two big losses.
You know, the way they broke it down, I was like, okay, interesting. The source for the Sofa X account might have made like a few comments on a few people's profiles and kind of drive some engagement here.
But exciting as in favor of Notre Dame or not?
No, we just poking the bear, man. That's it.
[00:43:52] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:43:53] Speaker A: We don't give any.
Any sides and any favoritism on the socials. That's the rules.
But let's recap week 11, though.
Thoughts, overarching themes, sentiments. I know we did not do so hot in our Westgate super contest. Picks.
I didn't even bother checking to see how your picks did. Aaron on. On the pod from last week.
[00:44:23] Speaker C: Games of the week went four and five last week. Rome or.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Okay, yeah, okay.
[00:44:31] Speaker C: Locks were. Locks were two and one again. So.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: Okay, that.
[00:44:35] Speaker C: That's been a. That's. That's basically been a lock. Two and one every week for like two, one.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: That's a winning formula, bro. I love that.
[00:44:44] Speaker C: Maybe we should just throw those locks in the group play because it's at least two wins. I guess you did throw Texas A and M in there. So that. That was our lock. Lock of the week.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Yeah. The hell was I talking about?
Wait, how many wins did we get.
[00:44:59] Speaker C: This week as a group?
[00:45:00] Speaker B: West gate contest.
[00:45:01] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Two.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: It was just my two picks.
[00:45:05] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:45:06] Speaker A: Okay.
What were the other losses?
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Everything that I picked, which is why I'm sitting this segment out. I shouldn't be talking about college football room.
[00:45:15] Speaker C: We lost.
Well, Jason had James Madison.
That lost.
[00:45:21] Speaker B: That was. That was some crap. Was that like a half pointer again?
[00:45:25] Speaker C: One and a half. I think they won. They won by 12.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: By 12.
[00:45:30] Speaker C: Yeah, it was 13 and a half.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:45:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Oregon. Oregon.
Nice comeback by Iowa there because it was 15 to 7. I have a nice rally in the fourth quarter.
And then the game I did mention, I did fade Washington. I did take Wisconsin. My own personal selection.
I did. I wasn't. I wasn't feeling Washington. The other two. I didn't. I was. I liked. Really liked Oregon. James Madison. I talked to another guy. He liked him as well. But Washington was the other one Jason had. So that one.
That was a weird game. I mean, I, I don't know how Wisconsin won that game with five different quarterbacks basically doing nothing. Just a defensive battle in the snow, basically. It was like a little. It was like in Chicago weather.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: So Wisconsin, dude, I'm telling you, man, they perform when you don't expect it.
Yeah, no. Texas A and M, they look really great. Miami, big win over Syracuse. Oregon barely escaping. I thought Iowa had a pretty good chance of upsetting Oregon in that one.
Vanderbilt, I don't know why I, I didn't watch too much of that game against Auburn, but they.
[00:46:36] Speaker C: Really good game. That was a really good game.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: California upset Louisville.
That was surprising.
[00:46:45] Speaker C: Rome, I know you've been holding a lot of clips with me on California. You might as well release them now because I've been telling you all year I've liked Cal. Yeah, they've been hit. They've been hit and miss.
Like basically they're like the Carolina Panthers. You just don't know what you're gonna get from them week to week. But they show up with the biggest upset, I think of the weekend beating Louisville as almost a three touchdown underdog.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: Pretty big upset, man. That was pretty surprising.
I was kind of surprised Nordame beat Navy as bad as they did CJ Cars.
[00:47:15] Speaker B: CJ Carr is really good.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: How come you guys didn't pick them as part of the picks then? What's the spread on that one, 26 and a half.
[00:47:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a big spread because.
[00:47:25] Speaker A: A lot of people had Navy covering.
[00:47:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean you get to a. A spread that big. And then it was snowing too during that game as well. And so now we're talking the element stuff going into it. CJ Carr is really good. I mean, I think not going to win the Heisman this year, but next year he's going to be the priest. He's going to be the preseason. I think Jeremiah Love for Notre Dame might win the Heisman this year if none of these quarterbacks start taking it because he had one of the more insane runs. You'll see. I think he was tackled by three Navy guys, but he never actually was on a knee or his back. He was like on top of them. Got up.
[00:47:57] Speaker A: Oh, I did see that replay. That was crazy.
[00:48:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you ran like 57 yards for a touchdown. Like, he's been unreal this year. I know it's hard for a running back to win the Heisman against quarterbacks, but I. I don't know the quarterback above and beyond. And it could be, yeah, this is.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: A good year because it's just what they got saying as like the leading candidate now.
[00:48:18] Speaker C: Who's the leading candidate?
[00:48:20] Speaker A: The freshman out of Ohio State.
[00:48:22] Speaker C: I think he's up there.
[00:48:26] Speaker A: Mendoza out of Indiana and I think the Bama quarterback.
[00:48:29] Speaker C: Right. Ty Simpson's up there as well.
[00:48:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Everyone else is kind of took in themselves out like including Beck. He's kind of lost his.
[00:48:36] Speaker C: Yeah, Beck's Don.
[00:48:36] Speaker A: He's Manning.
Week one, week one. Although now they're back in top 10 rankings and I'm feeling a bunch of mixed emotions about that one. I will say though, the game of the week for me, which was so exciting was Indiana, Penn State.
It was such a good game, especially since I don't have any ESPN and ABC right now. I was basically the only game I can really watch and I'm glad it was the only option because that's my favorite broadcast team.
I just cannot watch Big Noon Kickoff. It is.
It's just not the same, man. It's just not the same.
[00:49:17] Speaker B: But Big New Kickoff is a terrible show.
[00:49:19] Speaker A: It's bad. It is, it is. It's. It's douchey.
[00:49:23] Speaker C: What did you writing wise compared to college game day? Do you have the numbers?
[00:49:26] Speaker B: I don't know. That's a good.
[00:49:27] Speaker C: It's all the same time as college game days. I'm curious what the ratings are.
[00:49:31] Speaker B: It gets. I don't know what it is. But it's getting, it's getting close. That's a big thing. Like it's coming for college games day stuff, but, you know, it's on basic TV versus a cable network and so it's got that advantage and it does have some star stuff. But yeah, I, I think Rome sums it up actually. It's not, it's not the broadcast. I'm gonna watch for a pregame. I, I still, I think, I think McAfee's been great for ESPN. I think sabing gets a different personality on that. I really enjoyed that broadcast. But yeah, Rome, I think you're right about the Indiana Penn State game. That was entertaining. It's a shame Penn State has fallen into where they were at because I think if, you know, if Franklin would have been there and this would have been a more, you know, game that was fighting for a playoff seed. I mean, it's crazy. Penn State is.06 in the Big Ten right now. Just crazy where this team was like six weeks ago, dude.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: Like I'm watching the game and like, yeah, this team that's showing up, this is why they were ranked really high this year. And it seemed like they put together some pretty big plays and they had Indiana on the ropes. Man, Indiana came back with the most insane come up, come from behind victory. That touchdown grab, just like tippy toeing and Gus Johnson just losing his voice screaming at it. It was pretty wild. I'm pretty sure Indiana was really happy to escape with that victory because it could have just made things complicated or just like that blemish. But it was really fun game. It was really fun.
[00:50:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Rome, I mean, it had everything mean. Indiana had just been rolling through people. I mean, they just would. Rolled what? UCLA and Maryland. So these guys have been crushing. You already know they like to crush people. That's what they go out and do.
You know, I didn't watch really the first half of that game. I was watching a few other games and then I was.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: Mentosa did not have a great game either. He did not have a great game?
[00:51:20] Speaker C: No. I mean, well, Penn State's, you know, has a good defense. I mean, they came in what preseason ranked number two, whereas all the way what the number two when Oregon went in there and beat him in a close game. So we know they can, we know they can compete and play well.
Even since they got rid of Franklin, I think they're owing three. And they lost, what, to Iowa by one point, now Indiana by four. So it's not like they've been bad. Yeah, but yeah, I mean you can. College football has shown us of anything. You can fall from the, the top pretty quick if you're not careful. Penn State this year, Florida State last year. So yeah, if you're not careful, you can fall from the top ranking to the bottom within, you know, within the season.
[00:52:00] Speaker A: Did you guys catch any games that caught your eye for any particular reason or you guys want to go straight to the rankings? Talk that a little bit.
[00:52:07] Speaker B: Not a game that caught my eye, but I wanted, I wanted Aaron's thought on this particular game. USC versus Northwestern.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: Oh, are you going to talk about that play?
[00:52:19] Speaker B: Oh, I'm going to talk about that play.
[00:52:21] Speaker A: People are not happy about it.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: Usc, Optic League, Bush League stuff.
Yeah, they got, they got a quarterback wearing the same number as their punter that apparently on the official roster the quarterback is lifted. Hewitt is listed as seven, but on the game day roster they switched him to 80.
And so shady, very shady. This comes off the heels I think two or three weeks prior where they listed a guy out on an injury report and then suited him up at halftime.
[00:52:55] Speaker C: Wow.
So you know, is that a game against Notre Dame? They try to pull that shenanigans or what?
[00:53:02] Speaker B: I don't remember what it was at. I, I really. Let me see if I can find the guy that tweeted this and, and put this on there. But yeah, so I think the total fines for these two incidents are $5,000 overall.
[00:53:13] Speaker C: So it should be a lot more than that.
[00:53:15] Speaker A: Everybody said how it, it, how it's been allowed like that plays allowed. And then the Big Ten came out like this is not allowed.
[00:53:23] Speaker C: Well, we've seen, well we've seen a lot of this stuff going on Rome. I mean we brought up what about a month ago, remember Oklahoma did the old sideline fake going off. The guy doesn't go off for Oklahoma. So maybe, you know, Lincoln Riley coming from Oklahoma. So maybe something's still brewing in the water where you just, you got a little cheat code somewhere stashed where you just open up these old.
[00:53:42] Speaker A: It wasn't even necessary though. That's the biggest thing. That's.
[00:53:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean I, I didn't watch that game because I was watching Tulane, Memphis. Because we did say Tulane was gonna upset Memphis. Yeah, we were right on that. We. I called a lot of upsets Rome. I didn't get a lot of games right, but I called too Lane to upset Memphis and I said Hawaii would not upset San Diego State and they just beat the drum out of those guys 38 to 6.
So unfortunately, I didn't have that in our group play. I did have that in my own personal selection, but. Oh, you know, okay, okay.
I get to see seven. I get to choose seven games there, not two to three a week. So I got a little more legwork.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: So you save your own upsets and locks for your own personal record.
[00:54:21] Speaker C: I, I did, I, I did.
[00:54:23] Speaker B: What's. What's the comparison between ours and your personal one right now? Are you, are you beating us in the singles? Because for a while we were up on the group one versus your personal one.
[00:54:31] Speaker C: I, I have passed you. Yes.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: Gotcha. Well, I mean, you should. I've been giving away. I think I'm 0 and 5.
[00:54:37] Speaker C: I did take. I did take Wisconsin, so I did take that one.
[00:54:41] Speaker A: That's hilarious, dude. Yeah, Tulane, that was kind of surprising.
Kind of makes things complicated for the group of five now because now you got a couple guys.
[00:54:48] Speaker C: South Florida looks like they're back in it, right?
[00:54:50] Speaker A: South Florida's back in Memphis, is getting a lot of love. They were like the committees, like first in kind kind of conversation.
I believe Tulane is still in the conversation as well. People are. I guess they didn't. Someone tweeted like, we're barely in year to the playoffs and the system's already broken. And someone also tweeted, I, I gotta start saving these. But people are commenting like they don't think a lot of the population, like the general population doesn't really know that the playoff is just a playoff just for the sec, the Big Ten. A lot of people don't know.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: No. Well, it's so obvious it was that. And I, I know like some of these fan bases, you know, want to try. It was 100 obvious that these are the two big money conferences that we're going to own and run this tournament. And at this point, like you're gonna have at some point some realignment in the next five years with these two conferences, probably buy more teams where eventually it just turns into an invitational between these two conferences owning football because, you know, Florida State wants to get out of the acc. Miami wants to get out of the acc. They want Notre Dame to pick a conference and to go to. And so you're going to see probably more and more in this. But it's, it's funny that they're coming at it, but I think my Miami's the one that's just caught me the most out of this because they're so mad after they're terrible two losses and how bad they've looked overall. And they're crying about.
[00:56:09] Speaker A: And you're right, Jason, it was the Miami fans that were pointing out their record against the Notre Dames.
[00:56:13] Speaker B: Absolutely. So they. Thank you for letting me know at the beginning of the season when you beat a true freshman quarterback barely at home, you know that. Okay. Yes. You beat Notre Dame head to head. Thank you. And then you've done nothing since then.
[00:56:28] Speaker C: Yeah. Miami's got no reason to talk. I mean, for Miami, I mean, the door got left open, right. I mean, Georgia Tech lost last week, Virginia losing, Louisville losing. So the acc, I don't know who they want to get in to that. You know, their ACC is getting one team in. That's it looks like the Big 12 the same. I mean, we didn't touch on it Rome, but it was one of our big games to watch. Texas Tech just dismantling BYU put a whipping on them.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: An ass whooping.
[00:56:56] Speaker C: So Texas Tech has put an ass whooping on Utah, byu. They lost the game against Arizona State a few weeks back where they didn't have the quarterback in that one. But Arizona State, Arizona State's done now because their quarterback's out for the year.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:10] Speaker C: So Texas Tech, you know, barring any kind of crazy setbacks, looks like they're going to win the Big 12.
Really, really good team defensively. But offensively, I got a lot of questions about them, but they're going to probably get into the playoff host, you know, playoff game, Miami. Like I said, the door's been left open with Georgia Tech losing last week, Virginia this week.
They lost their quarterback to concussion and cost in the game against Wake Forest.
[00:57:36] Speaker A: A lot of critics were saying there is opportunity for the ACC to get possibly two in there because it is pretty deep this year. There's five teams in consideration.
[00:57:44] Speaker B: I don't, I don't see. There's. Yeah, they're. Consideration. But when you come to, you had an undefeated Ohio State, undefeated Indiana, undefeated Texas A and M. You got a bunch of one loss SEC teams. You're going to have Notre Dame likely going 10 and two. They're going to be a lock that goes in.
[00:58:00] Speaker A: That Pittsburgh game is gonna be tough for Notre Dame.
[00:58:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it'd be.
[00:58:05] Speaker C: Where's it at? Where's it at?
[00:58:06] Speaker A: I think Pittsburgh.
[00:58:09] Speaker C: I'll take Notre Dame right now. Whatever the spread is, they'll.
[00:58:11] Speaker A: They'll be.
[00:58:12] Speaker C: They'll be Pittsburgh by double digits. I'm not worried about that.
[00:58:15] Speaker B: But yeah, I, I don't know how the ACC gets anyone in at this point. There's not a Far and away team like last year when you had smu, you know, lose the title game that got Clemson in, but she had to throw smn SMU in like what? The highest ranked team right now in the top 25 for the ACC.
Is it Miami at 16?
[00:58:36] Speaker C: Let me look here. No, Georgia Tech at 14.
[00:58:39] Speaker A: Georgia Tech.
[00:58:40] Speaker B: Georgia Tech at 14. So, okay, so Georgia Tech, I mean that'd be that. I guess that'd be your thing. If Georgia Tech gets all the way to the ACC title game and then loses would be.
[00:58:50] Speaker C: I'd say this Georgia Tech. The only way Georgia Tech, I think gets in by losing an ACC game. I'm looking at their schedule. They finish at home with Pittsburgh and Georgia and they still got Boston College. So if they could be Pitt and Pitt keeps winning out and beats in Notre Dame.
[00:59:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:05] Speaker C: And they beat Georgia, then I could see Georgia Tech getting some leeway and maybe losing in a conference championship game and getting in the playoff. But outside of that, I don't, I don't see it happening.
Pittsburgh, I mean they've, they've played pretty well here lately.
They've got what? Oh, that's, that's the nine o' clock start against Notre Dame. I'll check the weather there, but I like Notre Dame to just beat Pittsburgh pretty easily.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: Pittsburgh on a five game winning streak round.
[00:59:33] Speaker C: Unless Jason's picking them, then I guess we gotta fade them in the college one.
So he, I think he's gonna take Pittsburgh this week. And that way Notre Dame gets.
[00:59:40] Speaker A: Reverse jinx. It's a reverse.
[00:59:42] Speaker B: We'll do the reverse jinx. Yep.
[00:59:43] Speaker C: I like it. Not. Jason's due for a big week. Rome, we got three picks this week. So I think Jason, Jason's gonna ride Notre Dame. They're gonna get him back in.
[00:59:52] Speaker A: I, I like it.
Do you guys like the new rankings? Top 25.
Any critiques?
[00:59:57] Speaker B: I, I still think Texas A and M being below Indiana is still iffy to me. I mean it'll sort itself out probably.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: I mean a lot of people, a lot people have Texas aim above everybody else right now, but lots of shared sentiments.
[01:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if they're above Ohio State because Ohio states look really good. Indiana.
[01:00:23] Speaker A: Is it because of close game against Penn State?
[01:00:25] Speaker B: No, I've never really bought Indiana. I think, I think the win versus Oregon, obviously their signature when they blew out Illinois at the time, which we thought was a big game, but Illinois hasn't been great since. So like, you know, I, there wasn't much from, you know, people are talking about The Notre Dame resume, you know, the, the Indiana resume.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: Right now people are breaking down Notre Dame resume right now on 100 and.
[01:00:50] Speaker B: I'm not here to defend that. I mean, Indiana's undefeated. They should, you know, and they should be ranked, you know, in the playoff where they're at. But they, that'd be the only thing. But I mean, you're splitting hairs there. At some point, you know, Indiana, Ohio State, Big Ten championship game, you know, potentially Texas A and M, you know, they're going to have, you know, some, you know, they'll have a tough. Was it the end of season in Texas and then the SEC championship game.
[01:01:13] Speaker C: So yeah, I mean, I don't have a problem. I mean I don't have a problem with Indiana being ahead of Texas. What's a bigger win, winning at Oregon or winning at Notre Dame? Because, because that's really those two marquee wins games you go. So I, I would lean towards winning at Oregon, bigger than winning at Notre Dame especially like Jason mentioned gets a young quarterback early in the year.
So I, I would give a slight edge to Indiana. Their schedule's pretty easy. Texas A and M is going to finish at Texas. I mean, if Texas can beat Texas, a pretty tough schedule. If they could beat Georgia and A and M down the stretch here, then I would say Texas gets in the playoff. Lose either one of those games, even if it's by a point, they're likely not going to get in the playoff.
So Texas got everything ahead of them right now with Georgia. At Georgia, that's the big prime time game this week.
[01:02:01] Speaker A: I think we're getting a three team loss in the playoffs this year for sure.
[01:02:04] Speaker B: SEC probably could happen. I mean, you're going to have, you have two teams with pretty much gift schedules to end the season.
Ole Miss, you know, they got Florida, Mississippi State, who they play this week.
Yeah, this week. So they got all their hard games out of the way for the most part. And then you got a Florida and a Mississippi State team which are both winnable for them. So you look at ole miss going 11 and one likely, Georgia kind of got things back on the rails versus Mississippi State. But they play Texas and Georgia Tech, so that'll be some tough games.
Bama, like Bama had a really tough schedule and they went through the gauntlet in that kind of like that four game stretch.
[01:02:46] Speaker C: Still got Oklahoma though.
[01:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah, they got Oklahoma and then obviously a rival game with Auburn. But I mean Oklahoma, you know, they beat Oklahoma, you know, you're talking about Bama being 111 2. So there, there's a lot. There's. There's probably one SEC team going 11 and 1. That's not going to be the SEC title game. It just gets, gets the, the free month buy or whatever, how many weeks that is. And then like Aaron said, yeah, you could see Texas beating Texas A M. I don't know where that shakes out for them going into the SEC title game, but there, there's, there's some paths here where, I mean, am I going to be shocked if five SEC teams make it? You know, one's a three loss because of some shenanigans. Probably not.
[01:03:24] Speaker C: Yeah, it's gonna be tough to get five in. I mean, Ole Miss, their schedule lines up well. Georgia's got some tough games. Bama sets up good.
[01:03:33] Speaker A: Texas, I think hip and signed his extension today in Oklahoma.
[01:03:38] Speaker C: So you got Oklahoma.
Texas has that win over Oklahoma. So that's a big win. But if Oklahoma can go and beat, beat Bama, that'd be a big win for them. And then maybe you could be looking at five teams from the sec because the Big Ten was just the three teams, right? Indiana, Oregon, Ohio State. So that's, let's just say four, three. That's seven.
[01:04:04] Speaker A: I like Oklahoma, but I just don't see them being a better team than Alabama. Alabama, it's just really ride the ship here.
They look really good.
[01:04:12] Speaker C: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I mean, you got, you get the bye week, Oklahoma.
So we'll see. I, I would lean towards Alabama beating him as well, but we'll see what the number is when it comes out. If it's not out. Let me see if it's out.
[01:04:23] Speaker A: Cool.
Any final comments? College football. Congrats. Lane Kiffin on the extension. He stays in Ole Miss.
[01:04:30] Speaker C: How much did he sign for?
[01:04:32] Speaker A: It's just a $4 million bump. He'll be making 12 million a year.
[01:04:36] Speaker B: Keeps him till next year.
[01:04:40] Speaker C: Well, I mean, this is the best time if you're going to leave, to leave now with all the jobs that are open. So I mean, I think that leaves coach Eli there at Missouri, likely to go to Florida or lsu.
I think, like I said, I think, I think John Summerall from Tulane, somebody.
[01:04:54] Speaker A: Was, somebody was talking about Eli needing to take the next step. So. Huh. I like that.
[01:05:00] Speaker C: All right, so you got. So here's some early lines for you, Rome. When we're talking college football, you got Texas is a six point underdog at Georgia. Six point underdog Texas. Right now I'm taking that Notre Dame like I figured ten and a half point favorite at Pittsburgh. So like I said, they'll win by at least double digits. So the bookmakers are already on that.
They're listening to the show. Oklahoma plus seven at Alabama. You can get Oklahoma plus seven early line.
[01:05:26] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:05:28] Speaker C: Let's see.
Probably the big games there. Iowa travels to usc. Iowa plus six and a half against usc.
[01:05:37] Speaker A: That's intriguing.
I like Iowa at the points of that.
We'll break it all down later this week on Games of the Week. They'll do for the weekend recap, at least for football.
