NFL Lines for Week 2, Upset Alerts & Stay Away Bets, Clippers Cut Corners with Kawhi

[00:00:00] Speaker A: We are recording at least this portion of the podcast. Thursday night, midnight. [00:00:07] Speaker B: It's Friday now, right? [00:00:09] Speaker A: So technically Friday. Gotta love it. We're gonna recap the Thursday Night Football game which featured the Washington Commanders against Green Bay packers at Lambeau Field. I don't know about you, but I actually had the packers winning this game outright and cover and covering the other spread. I wasn't sure whether to go over under though when I was looking at the Lions just because I don't know how good packers defense is yet. I know they're pretty scary, especially with Micah Parsons, man, like the, like the 40 snaps that he took, they just look different and. And I could see it already and it's kind of scary. We'll talk more about that in a little bit. But the commanders though, tougher schedule. The revamped a little bit, but it's still a tougher schedule. They had a really light schedule last year. Pulled out some victories out of their ass. At least five. Right. I think like buzzer beating victories on their way to a really impressive year and ruining the Detroit Lions here all in the process. That's been playing in my head so often because obviously I went over. Back on the pod I recorded last week. You and Jason were talking on the Lions and you guys are not alone, dude. There's people starting to talk a little bit more. It's making me nervous. I'm. I'm now like the sources. [00:01:32] Speaker B: The sources. Rome, they're talking. Everyone, everyone's a little bit above you guys. [00:01:36] Speaker A: You and Jason have like this weird bias thing. You guys, you guys like jerk each other off and like go off the rails really quickly and. And I recognize that before, you know, But I'm trying to. [00:01:46] Speaker B: This is a, this is an entertainment show, Romeo, and it is a sports entertainment show. We're just giving, we're giving real takes and real feels at the time. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:01:57] Speaker B: I mean, you do know we do have that. We do have the steak dinner on the line for Ken Detroit. Be over 500 at the bye week. There's a big game coming up. We'll talk about that tomorrow. That did not make it today's later pod. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, it did not make it on the pod because that was lost. And then guess what? When I was going back and editing some videos, guess what recording popped back up out of nowhere. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Whether or not you think it's gone or not, it's out there. [00:02:24] Speaker A: It's out there out there. Oh yeah. [00:02:26] Speaker B: Because it. [00:02:26] Speaker A: I should have. [00:02:27] Speaker B: It's in the cloud or whatever they call It. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's in the cloud. All right, enough bullshitting here. Let's go to the Thursday night game. Packers went 27 18. I saw most of the highlights from the game look like it was. [00:02:43] Speaker B: I. [00:02:43] Speaker A: Don'T know, like, I guess tightly contested going into the half. But at least from what I saw, Green Bay looked like they had control the game but didn't really blow them out. Jordan Love looked good, but not great. Like a lot of his throws look like they were a little behind a lot of his receivers. I. I don't know who, who this guy is though. Number 88. Is it. Is that the tight end? [00:03:09] Speaker B: Oh, I think it's five craft. 88. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Maybe it is 85. [00:03:16] Speaker B: 88. Oh, Mus. Musgrave. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Musgrave. I think, yeah. Like really one really impressive catch, but I'm looking at it. He only had 32 yards but like one catch that I saw. Like he rumbled for like 20, 20 or 30 yards. And just his long was. [00:03:34] Speaker B: His long catch was for 23. I mean I know he was. I know he had a couple catches. I mean Musk or kra. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Big guy. Yeah. [00:03:41] Speaker B: Tied in the main tight end of 124 yards receiving. [00:03:44] Speaker A: Big dude. I wish I would have picked him up. [00:03:46] Speaker B: So yeah, he had a nice game. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Either way though, like you watched the game. I was at the restaurant. So I'm only watching highlights here. Love pretty decent when you look at the stats wise, two touchdowns, no interceptions, which is really positive because Love is more like an old school close to Brett. Far gunslinger. But 19 for 39 or 31, not great at all. And selling the throws to me, at. [00:04:10] Speaker B: Least in the highlights that's still what, 64% completion percentage. [00:04:16] Speaker A: I can't do math right now, man. It is midnight and I am drinking a Manhattan right now as we speak. [00:04:22] Speaker B: It's 61% so you know, the 19. [00:04:26] Speaker A: Just looks bad when you have a three. [00:04:28] Speaker B: I think the key number here, Rome is two touchdowns, zero interceptions we've talked about. I mean Loves looked really good here. There was a stat they said that they think at the end of the game that he's when not facing any pressure this year he's only got four incomplete passes, two in each game. So if you're not getting any pressure on him, he's converting over 80% of his passes. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:54] Speaker B: So you gotta definitely try to bring some pressure. Washington really didn't do a good job of that. I mean the passes left did miss. He missed on three or four really deep balls and he didn't miss by much, but maybe about. About a yard. And obviously you had the, the one you talked about. I don't know if we were talking about on the air or not, but the one to read where he broke his collarbone, that would have been a touchdown, but I got called back as a holding. Yeah, that was a really nice dying pass that he threw. So, I mean, Green Bay, offensively, they got a lot of weapons at wide receiver. They got two tight ends. Josh Jacobs, a good running back. Matt LaFleur calls a great game. Packers are real dangerous. Micah Parsons, you mentioned only half a sack, but eight quarterback pressures. [00:05:37] Speaker A: That's. [00:05:38] Speaker B: That's a lot. And he was in Jaden Daniel's face all day. Washington just. They didn't look comfortable. They didn't score to me. To score to me is not invigorative. Just how controlling Green Bay had it. Green Bay was a superior to team tonight. It wasn't. Wasn't really that close. Yeah, Washington, you know, people might say they haven't looked great early in the year. They scored, what, 21 points against the Giants 18 here today. And Green Bay becomes the first team. Green Bay becomes the first team in NFL history to be. To start the year 2. 0 and win two games in five days against previous teams that had gone to the playoffs. So that was the first in NFL history. So Green base, they're putting people in the NFC on notice, that's for sure. Right now, these victories against your Detroit Lions and the Washington commanders, week one. [00:06:30] Speaker A: We can throw that out the window here. But the reason why I'm talking about love, though, because he hasn't looked great yet, but for some reason, composure is the word, is the theme for the early part of the season. He looks really comfortable in the pocket, but once he figures out, like how to lead his receivers a little bit more, like catch them on the route and, and allow them to kind of break away from more yardage, that's going to be dangerous. Like, that's the scary part. They're already busting and breaking away for some big yardage here, 300 yards. And I counted at least six passes, at least from the highlights that I saw where he caught his guys just a little behind and they still picked up, you know, 8 to 12 yards, especially like their tight ends, for instance, like this one play sticking out. I just can't remember if it was 85 or 88, Musgrave or Craft, but I was really impressed. But if Hu just caught them in stride, he was gone. But you're right, though. Pack look dangerous if they're gonna look like this, man. The division's in trouble and the rest of NFC's in trouble. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah, Rome, I mean you mentioned Jordan Love. 19 and 31 for 292 yards. The scary thing here is Matthew golden, their first round wide receiver pick. No catches in this game, so they're not even really getting him yet involved. Jordan left, tried to hit him on a couple deep passes. Just barely missed him. Almost had a. If he would have caught him in stride on one that you talked about, would have been about a 94 yard touchdown catch. I mean he missed him by a yard. It was there just a little too out, far out in front of. So once these two get that connection going with the other guys, they have the run game. The offensive line's young though. They're starting a couple young guys out there, rookies or second year players. [00:08:23] Speaker A: Where's Matt? [00:08:24] Speaker B: They've done a great job. They've done a great job right now of getting things going on offense. I mean Detroit, they dropped what, 27 and 27 back to back games here against the Commanders and the Lions. So it's a good start for the offense. [00:08:37] Speaker A: You're feeling pretty good, huh? [00:08:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I told you. I mean one of my best bets we go back was packers over nine and a half wins. I, I stand by that. [00:08:46] Speaker A: Oh, well, that's, that's an easy one. [00:08:50] Speaker B: So now that, I mean, you know, they could have easily started 1 and 1, maybe 02 tough games against Washington, Detroit, I mean those teams played in the divisional round. As you mentioned eliminating Detroit. Commanders got to the NFC championship game. But the packers schedule, you know, they got Browns at Cleveland and then at Cowboys. So you know, Mike is already talking, he was on the post game show saying he's not hiding his feelings. He's, he's excited and looking forward to that game and going back to Dallas. So he's gonna have a little, you know, you know, when you're in practice, you can't hit your starting quarterback. So he's gonna have a little something for Dak when he sees him. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Who does Greenway play next? Because now they have like a pretty nice rounds, right? [00:09:34] Speaker B: They got the Browns next, so they. [00:09:36] Speaker A: Have 10 days to relax until the Browns. I don't like long breaks that could, you know, Browns are kind of dangerous actually. They have a lot of weapons there. [00:09:46] Speaker B: If you sleep on them, they can beat you. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:09:49] Speaker B: And like you said, you got 10 days off Dallas the next week. Will you be looking ahead? I would, I think with. I, I Think with the leadership now, with Love in his third year, second year defensive coordinator and metaphor being there for so long, I, I think the packers might be one of those teams that just, they're on a mission. They beat the Browns by double digits. They get the Cowboys and then a big showdown with the Bengals. I think they go in and play Cincinnati at 4. 0. [00:10:19] Speaker A: I like their chances, I like their chances to be 4. 0, to be honest with you. [00:10:23] Speaker B: They're going to be favored by. They can be favored by over touchdown when they play the Browns. Be my guess. [00:10:30] Speaker A: Let's take a guess right now. Let's do like a little Bill Simmons segment here. Guess the lines for that Browns game and then we'll come back. [00:10:38] Speaker B: I'll say, I'll say Packers are favored by seven, seven and a half. When that line comes out, I'll say. [00:10:44] Speaker A: Eight and a half. Looking at the stats here for the Thursday Night Football game, aside from time of possession, which is like pretty close and not really a lot of turnovers on either side, which is really impressive, the yardage pack, 404 over 230. They dominated. Passing. Washington's quarterback, he looked a little shaky at times. He was being rushed, didn't look as poised as he did last year. And we all know quarterbacks hit like the sophomore slump. So I'm not sure. It's a little too early to tell. Right. And some of his weapons were out of all training camp. But it's gonna be a tough year. I'm really curious how Washington rebounds from this one, but yeah, dude, gotta get up to you. Packers looked really good. They look really good. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Touching base on Washington, Jaden Daniels, I mean the offense hasn't looked great early. No, they, they didn't look great coming out of the gates last year too. I think the concern, I think the concern for Washington, well, is that secondary, you know, they upgraded that defensive line front to kind of help against the run and get a better pass rush. Their linebackers are a little old. Their secondary is young. They have a veteran in Lattimore, but he just seems to be getting picked on every week right now. I didn't like the trade form last year. I think his best days are behind him. So that, that's a concern. Washington and their secondary, how they hold up. And like you said, the Eckler, we haven't even really touched base on him. He's likely out for the season of a torn Achilles. That's a big traded away Brian Robinson. [00:12:26] Speaker A: That'S a big loss. [00:12:27] Speaker B: They still have, you know, the rookie that they took in the seventh round out of Arizona, nickname Bill. They really like, I like them too. But that's a lot to put on a guy early this time. Yeah, but, but you know, you can go out, you can find running backs that got cut or make a trade and you know, give, you know, Philly just traded for big speed Tank from the Jaguars for what, a six and a seven. So there's teams out there that can make moves if they want to. [00:12:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Plus they just would they get what they give for Robinson the fifth or sixth. So they could shop that for a running back too. Now they want so there's options. There's always running backs on the open market. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Most definitely. Any final comments on the game? [00:13:07] Speaker B: The Packers, I would say this, I'm confident in the packers being a playoff team. Yeah, Washington, they probably are going to be when that gets there. But they, they've looked shaky here in the first two weeks definitely. And they've got, they've got a lot to clean up. Like I said, the secondary is not great. The offense has not gotten off to strong starts, but like you said, just kind of guys getting in and out of camp. We'll see. I, I think Jaden Daniels teams, you know, all off season, you talk about the sophomore slump, they're just defensive coordinators are just watching film. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:13:41] Speaker B: They're studying what Jaden Daniels does good, what he struggles against. So everybody has these charts. [00:13:46] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that's why we saw, we. [00:13:48] Speaker B: We saw week one with Bo Nicks. He didn't look very good. So you know, the sophomore, the sophomore jinx slump, whatever you want to call it, it is real. Caleb still hasn't looked very good. We'll touch base on that. [00:14:01] Speaker A: Dude. I have a bunch on Caleb, but I'm afraid of hurting Jason's feelings too much. I, like I, I, I've, you know, the evidence. [00:14:09] Speaker B: The town of Minnesota has already done Jason wrong. Not only did they beat his team on Monday night, but they delayed his flight to make him soak it in even more. So we'll let him get his time time on the mic tomorrow or later. Later today of today. [00:14:24] Speaker A: So commander is coming up, man. It's a really interesting stretch of games. They got the Raiders next. They got some time to prepare that. But Raiders are always kind of like a sneaky team, especially in the road. They travel real, real well. So there's going to be Raider Nation in Washington for that. They got the Falcons, so I'm thinking they might be 500 after that. It's a Good. Real possibility. Lucky to pull out with two wins. Then they're at the Chargers. Chargers. I know. It's just week one. They look tough. Bears can't say anything yet. They're just doing bear things. Still bear necessities. [00:15:00] Speaker B: Well, well, let's. That's an interesting game against the Bears, Rome, because we all know that was the game last year that broke the. The Bears back, as they say. [00:15:08] Speaker A: Dude. So it literally almost like took away the chance of them becoming a 10 win team and just broke their spirits. [00:15:16] Speaker B: Because the Bears, if they won that game. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:15:22] Speaker B: Instead they went four and three and then literally lost like eight straight games before they won again. [00:15:28] Speaker A: I know it's rough, dude. [00:15:29] Speaker B: It was. [00:15:29] Speaker A: It was like all. [00:15:30] Speaker B: All on a play that had probably. I don't know what the Probability is, but 1.5% chance of being successful. [00:15:36] Speaker A: Whatever it is, that dude. [00:15:37] Speaker B: So. [00:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah. And that play still, like, if you remember, the guy that deflected the ball was the guy dancing in the end zone for getting that started. And so he runs. If he's probably playing, he probably just like deflects it down. But the way he's running into it and deflects it, it's just perfect. It's still so perfect. [00:15:58] Speaker B: It's. It's. It's like karma, right? Like, okay, like you're showboating before the game's over. You know, it's. It's like the boxing fight where you got the guy down, but you're just kind of like touching them up with jabs rather than getting them out of there. And then the dude, like regroups during the next round and just pits a shot on you. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Piece of you. Yeah, Yeah. [00:16:20] Speaker B: I mean, I think Jason still got that video archived on his phone, the Hail Mary last year from that game. So it'll be interesting. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Now, looking at Washington's schedule, though, it's. It's a pretty tough schedule, man. There's not too many give mes on this one. [00:16:36] Speaker B: No, it's like you said, Rome. Once you start doing good, you finish first or second in the division, you're going to get a tougher schedule. That Raiders game. Old pals Pete Carroll, Dan Quinn will not be easy. We're going to get a really good taste of what the Raiders got Monday night when they host the Chargers. [00:16:51] Speaker A: And I'm not a Cowboys fan, guys, I'm not a Cowboys fan. I've just. I just liked what I saw from week one in. Shot higher. But the caveat, the Saints looked really great in two weeks, too last week. So I'll, I'll give it three weeks before I get my final answer on, on the Cowboys. [00:17:07] Speaker B: I'm, I'm not sold on Dallas, but I was impressed by week one. But you, you, you were. That's one of your teams to keep an eye on. Rome, you're not, you're not unsure of as we gave earlier this week. [00:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I agree. [00:17:20] Speaker B: I'm not sure what to expect from Dallas. I'm looking at that spread this week against the Giants and I'm, I'm flip flopping on what side to take. I'm unsure. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I saw. It's kind of, it's a little high. [00:17:32] Speaker B: But maybe the Giants are not very good. So I, I'll have an answer for you over the lines. [00:17:39] Speaker A: We'll go over the lines of Jason. It's gonna be a fun. That's gonna be a fun second part of the pod. All right, let's take a quick break and then let's talk some college football. Yeah, let's do it. Great. All right. It's that time of the week again where Aaron busts out his yellow notepad which we've made very popular on, on the social channels. Looks like everything is spell checked now. But we got week three college football games of the week errands. College games of the week games to watch. He has a couple Friday we will see we can get a clip of this out in time. But other than that though this is most likely for the Saturday games. Aaron, you got for Friday just for whatever sake you got Colorado plus four Houston over under 45 and then Kansas State minus one in Arizona 54 and a half. Tell us about the Friday night games. [00:18:42] Speaker B: Yeah, so Friday night we got three games in total Friday night but only two I have on the watch list. I didn't pit UCLA on the watch list. Rome, they just get us New Mexico. Not real thrilling, exciting game. But hey, if you want to check that out, check it out. I think you will. Rome, your UCLA team needs to get a victory. I believe they will get on the board of a W there. [00:19:01] Speaker A: They need it. [00:19:02] Speaker B: But yeah. Colorado, Houston, Big 12 Conference matchup. This is Colorado's first game on the road. Coming off a win last week. They lost the opener. Tough one to Georgia Tech who's on this games of the weeks to watch. I like Houston here to cover four points at home. Colorado starting quarterback making his first career start with them. I think he's been in the program two, three years. Deion feels pretty good about him. I guess he's moved the offense pretty well, so we'll see how that goes. But I like Houston here. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Oh, you'd like Houston? [00:19:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Wow. [00:19:36] Speaker B: Okay, next game here, Rome. Kansas State. I, I don't know if there's some kind of curse if you go over to Ireland and get beat, but Florida State last year went there. Their season took a dump. Kansas State kind of the same here. They're 1 and 2, but really should be 03. I don't really know why. I don't really know why. Yeah, they're favorited when the conference. They're going to lose this game here at Arizona. I don't know how good Arizona is, but I'm going to stick with the true curse that if you go to Ireland and get beat, you have a terrible season. And Kansas State has looked bad. They really should be on three. They're going to lose this game. Arizona goes to 30 with a victory over Kansas State. That's, that's my Friday slated games to watch. UCLA gets in the win column too, I believe, like I said against New Mexico, But New Mexico 1 and 1. We saw them in week one against Michigan. They played them pretty competitive. So, you know, UCLA could have their hands full. Surprised this team is a 15 and a half point favorite. [00:20:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I was surprised by that too. Onto the Saturday games. You got three, six, you got 10 games. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Let's see, I got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Yeah, 10. Man, that's perfect. Perfect window of games starting with Clemson -3 against Georgia Tech. Rome, you already told me you like Georgia Tech here in the upset. I'm going with Clemson. I like them to win by a touchdown or more here. Line was opened up like around six. It's come down to three. Clemson has not looked good. I think that has more so to do with just the physicality of that game against lsu. And Troy's a little more sneakier and better than people give them credit for. But Clemson wins by a touchdown here. Big game in the sec. Georgia at Tennessee. This is my upset of the week. I've hit the last two, you might remember. Florida State over Alabama, Mississippi State over Arizona State. Tennessee upsets Georgia in Knoxville. I like the vowels here to beat the Georgia Bulldogs. So that's where I'm leaning there too. South Florida probably, obviously the biggest upset, really beating Florida last week goes in and plays against another talented Miami team. And I, I think Miami wins. I like South Florida to cover 17 and a half. Ridiculous that they're getting 17 and a half like they did against Florida. Miami Wins it wins this one. But South Florida is going to cover the 17 1/2 plus 7 against Mississippi. This is, this is your team, right Ron? Be. You got Ole Miss. You got Ole Miss going to the championship game if I remember correct, right. At least the playoff. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Don't remember that. [00:22:14] Speaker B: It was a late night pot. I know you got him in the playoff. I do know that. I just don't remember if it's the title game or not. [00:22:19] Speaker A: I think I do actually. Yeah, you might be right. [00:22:21] Speaker B: I think it was, it was a late night pod. [00:22:24] Speaker A: Late night. But I was high as hell. [00:22:25] Speaker B: I like Mississippi here to cover seven against Arkansas. Actually I, I do. Yeah. I'm not sure about the over under here, but I'm going to take Mississippi. I know their quarterback's a little banged up, but they like their other quarterback. Mississippi usually plays pretty good at home and their defense plays a lot better. Arkansas's young team, they can run the ball though. We'll see if Mississippi can stop them there. But I'll take Mississippi -7 as the home fave. And then Vanderbilt, Rome, like I mentioned last week as a dog, they were going to go into Virginia Tech and win. Well, guess what, they're a dog this week going against South Carolina. And there's one team that owns them at South Carolina, there's another and they're going to own them again this weekend. I like South Carolina to cover three and a half. Give me the game. Cox to win this game by a touchdown or more and stay perfect and stay in their top 10. But Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt, if Vanderbilt wins this game, they get into the top 25. I can't tell you the last time they've been in the top 25. Probably not since James Franklin left there and that's, that's what about a decade ago. So that's gonna be interesting to see how that game goes. This line has been bet down by from about five and a half to three and a half. So that's interesting. [00:23:33] Speaker A: Oh wow. I don't know how good South Carolina is. Although you're right. [00:23:38] Speaker B: Football contest Rome. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker B: And one thing these two teams do have in common, they both played Virginia Tech, South Carolina in the opener Vanderbilt last week and both beat them. [00:23:48] Speaker A: So, so real quick, I, I know we talked about the Vanderbilt quarterback last week, right? Yeah. [00:23:55] Speaker B: In the 6 year, 24, 25. [00:23:56] Speaker A: 6 year. So I went back to look up like how old he was because I kind of threw out that he was 26. [00:24:02] Speaker B: He said, he said 24, something like that. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Yeah. So he's 20. He's 24. And I saw it's six years, not including his junior college stuff, I guess. So apparently they have court next week. This is his last game potentially, because they have court on the 16th where the NA is, is countersuing and they're going to. And that's going to decide whether he actually gets to play or be eligible for the rest of the season. If they rule that he's not, it's too late for Vanderbilt to do anything and he's not going to be eligible for the rest of the season. There's a few other schools that have that. [00:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a few players that got this, this ruling by. So I'm going to tell you what's going to happen here, Rome. Whether or not the NCAA declares them ineligible or not, Vanderbilt's gonna play them, they're gonna keep playing them. And if the NCAA wants them to forfeit the games, screw it. Forfeit them. What does it mean? I don't care. I, I mean when teams have to forfeit championships because like, oh, this guy wasn't, you know, wasn't supposedly supposed to be eligible. Nobody cares. It's just like when Reggie Bush from the Heisman, they're like, oh, like whatever you saw, just delete that from your memory because it never happened. No, like the kid's gonna keep playing. I don't see the NCAA winning this countersuit. The NCAA lost all its power. Basically you just pay these guys off like Michigan did and said, hey, look, here's the money, shut up. They have no presidents anymore. That college football is basically going to go to a commissioner, right? Like an ultimate commissioner. Maybe like a Nick Saban or somebody takes over and just runs the show and that's who it is. Like you have in the NFL, the NBA, all these other major sports. In the ncaa, it's just a four letter word letter that we don't even remember anymore. I think it's where we're headed. [00:25:52] Speaker A: Interesting take, Interesting take. Anyways, I just want to throw it out throughout. Van reels. I didn't, I didn't know that. [00:25:59] Speaker B: I didn't know that the NCAA counter sued. So that's interesting. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. He was ruled ineligible. He sued, got the ruling and a few other players like you mentioned, it might be like half a dozen guys. So. Yeah, interesting. I didn't know that they surprised in the NCAA would do this. I mean, especially since we're already a quarter into the season now. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Yes, Dom. All right, next game, you got Florida and lsu. Good game. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean it would have been a really nice game in Florida. Had one last week against South Florida. Not really sure what to make of this Gators team. LSU coming off that big one on the opener out of Clemson did not look good last week. But like I said, I think both Clemson, LSU kind of feeling the bruises from such a physical game. Jason's on LSU this week. I'm on LSU too. I think their offense is too much and their defense is really good. Florida is going to have a tough time scoring points. So I, I like LSU to win here by 10. Jason's not here to defend his Notre Dame team, but he did take Texas A and M in our, you know, Westgate college football contest and I'm going to tend to agree. I'm going to tend to agree. I think the line's a little high. I had it personally at four and a half when it. That's my power rating, six and a half. I see value there. I like Notre Dame to win. Texas A and M to cover Tulane. Jace is not here to defend them. That's his group of five team going to the playoff against his other team that he really liked, Duke Rome. You called Duke out last week, said that the fighting alignment from Illinois we're going to whip, put some whipping on them. They did here. They were one and a half point dog. I like Tulane here at home. Tulane's going to get to 30 against Duke. Duke did not look good last week. Gave up what, 40 points at Illinois. I think they give up another 30 burger here. I like Illinois or two lane to beat Duke. I'll say 30 to 23. Texas State. This is a team I'm keeping an eye on. Big underdog here against Arizona State who got upset at Mississippi State. Texas State will cover the 16 and a half. They're going to make this a competitive game. Texas State's a program that, that's up on the rise. They're not, you know, people aren't really talking about them as that group of five. Texas State's a program to keep an eye on the next few years. That that Texas money, it doesn't matter what university you are. They all got money. They all got nil. Texas states, they're coming up. They are coming up. If they can keep their coach, we'll see. He likely probably leaves through a major conference. And my upset on the west coast late night. If you're going to be up watching this one, it is a 7:30 kickoff here on the West Coast. Pacific Standard Time. I like how to upset Minnesota, this. [00:28:44] Speaker A: You'Re really costing that candidate at the beginning of the year. [00:28:47] Speaker B: Well, I told you not, I told you not to take. Damn. Oregon State against Cal. I, I, you know, you, when you live in the Bay Area some, sometimes those fans just talk a lot of smack on Cal's. Cal's pretty good. That quarterback they got. That quarterback they gots legit. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Everybody's been talking smack on him. It's just like no love. [00:29:04] Speaker B: Well, but I, I, I'm giving. [00:29:06] Speaker A: But I told you, I told you how barrier fans are though. [00:29:09] Speaker B: Yeah, Rome, I told you week one, I like this Cal team. I'm telling you week three, I like this talent team. They're gonna upset Minnesota here. So I've got, I've got what, two upsets with Tennessee beating Georgia and Cal beating Minnesota. Those are my upsets Saturday in college football. Nothing, nothing big, nothing major, nothing like a touchdown. But I will say if you're looking for a touchdown, underdog to win outright. West Virginia, Pittsburgh. That's an old school rivalry game. West Virginia coming off a tough loss against Ohio. Ohio's better than people think. They're getting 30 plus against Ohio State. West Virginia plus seven against Pittsburgh. It's not my games to watch, but it's, it's one of my top bet plays, I think this week. West Virginia to cover seven at home. Rich Rod back at head coach as the. That's right, I forgot Mountaineers. So give me West Virginia +7 against Pittsburgh. Not on the games to watch though. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Fair enough. And I dig that. Thank you. I think people would take that too. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Maybe you use them for your three pick special in the Westgate college football realm. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I like some of these actually now, going over them. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. For those that do not know the podcast, we are in the Westgate college football survivor contest, Correct? [00:30:35] Speaker B: Not survivors, just super contest. Westgate college contest. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:42] Speaker B: I'll tell you what place we're actually, despite a record, not in a terrible place. [00:30:48] Speaker A: It's not, it's not bad, actually. [00:30:50] Speaker B: Last week was a bad week for everybody. Yeah, it was not a good week. So I'm looking, let me look at this here. So Art entry tied for 499th place. We're still in the top 50 right now. [00:31:06] Speaker A: All right. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Our entry alone, my own personal entry, it's in the top 25%. So right there at that borderline mark. [00:31:14] Speaker A: All right. [00:31:15] Speaker B: And I'm only, only one game better than you guys, so that's how close it is between 2025 and 50 of the field right now. [00:31:22] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:31:23] Speaker B: So a good week this week. 5 and 2, 6170. Man, you get. You getting that top 10%. [00:31:32] Speaker A: I think I'll do some homework tonight or tomorrow morning actually. Yeah. [00:31:37] Speaker B: So give me. Give me those picks by. By noon tomorrow. If not, I'll have to throw them in. I have to think as a Roman, throw some games in there. [00:31:47] Speaker A: I wish I could pick ucla, but I just don't know what to. I just don't know. We talked about it. I just don't know. [00:31:53] Speaker B: I personally like UCLA to cover, but I don't know. I don't know how good New Mexico is. I thought they were garbage and they played good against Michigan. The reason why I thought they were garbage because they returned 00% offensive productivity from any player on that roster coming into this year. Not one player on that offensive team coming into the season had even gained a yard. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Complete turnover. Yeah. Wait, is this the whole coach thing? [00:32:21] Speaker B: Coach and players, everything at New Mexico? [00:32:24] Speaker A: No. Yeah. Because the coach slept and all the players left. Right? [00:32:27] Speaker B: Well, that's kind of pretty much almost any team. So the quarterback last year that was at New Mexico is the quarterback now for Utah. [00:32:35] Speaker A: This is okay. [00:32:37] Speaker B: And the offensive coordinator, there's the new officer coordinator at Utah too. [00:32:42] Speaker A: It made a bunch of news. Yeah. [00:32:44] Speaker B: And the head coach in New Mexico is now the head coach at Utah State. [00:32:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. They lost. [00:32:49] Speaker B: They lost. New Mexico lost a lot. [00:32:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:52] Speaker B: But they've been competitive. They are one and one. So we'll see. Ucla, if they come out like they did the first six quarters against Utah and unlv, they could lose this game. If they play like they did in the third and fourth quarter, then they win by two scores. [00:33:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:11] Speaker B: Tough game. Tough game to really pick on the spread. [00:33:14] Speaker A: Okay. No, I'll give you the three picks for sure. That'll do for college football. Thanks, Aaron. For the games to watch, it'll be on socials, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. Now we have a Facebook page. Gain some traction there and we'll do a clip on this on YouTube as well. So be in the lookout. Okay. We are back from break, this time with Jason joining the pod. He was traveling for the previous segment. We are gonna do some NFL lines tonight. It is Friday night. We're gonna get it out into. Get it out to you in time for you to make your bets on whatever platform you fucking place your bets on. But first, there's like lots of news going on. We're not going to talk about my Dodgers struggling or that no one wants to win their division right now because everyone's just stinking up the fucking place. But there's some pretty big news in basketball. Lots, by the way, lots of gambling going on. Like there's so many investigations now for players being investigated for a lot, whatever the college. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Right. [00:34:19] Speaker A: A lot of 13 guys and, and, and even the NBA still there's just like new investigations popping up and I'm just like, this is crazy. Like, is this like the new, the new era? [00:34:33] Speaker C: It's hilarious. And how many sports talk segments and think pieces and documentaries about Pete Rose and all the evil? Aaron's got Pete Rose right behind him. We've been recording here for the last year and a half. How much about Pete Rose and him gambling on baseball and Stu. Now we just got day after day an investigation and some athlete gambling on, I don't know, their own sport, other sports. I mean it's more, it's more transparent than ever now with all these gambling companies. All this stuff's diddly digitally traced and everything and you know, reference back to games and, you know, this, this stuff's wild. But I guess these guys, you know, worth taking the risk, I guess. [00:35:11] Speaker B: Well, it's funny for like the college guys and stuff. I mean, Pete Rose, I mean Pete Rose was gambling a lot of money. I mean he was in debt, if you kind of read the stories to a lot of different people. But a lot of these guys in college, it's like 25 parlay or they placed like 30 bets that equal to, you know, a total of 500 and you know you're gonna lose a scholarship over that. So it's kind of funny. The NBA, the feds cleared the guy from Detroit, but now the NBA's opened their own investigation. [00:35:40] Speaker A: It has not officially been announced that they cleared him. That was his attorney saying it. [00:35:46] Speaker B: I, I thought the feds had cleared them. [00:35:49] Speaker A: Not publicly, no. No, that's why the NBA is investigating now. That's the, that's, that's the tricky part. [00:35:54] Speaker B: Well, he basically should get whoever represented Otani because that case went away quicker than anything. And that's probably the dirtiest player in the game. But that's neither here nor there. That's for another topic, another day. He's dirty, man. He's dirty. No doubt about it. [00:36:10] Speaker A: Come on. No way. [00:36:11] Speaker B: Maybe I, I think he's in bed with Ballmer. But that's just me. We can get into that. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Oh, now you're, now you're okay. That's a good segue because. All right, I brought it was a great setup, Aaron. And. And thank you so much, because, Jason, me and Aaron talked about this weeks ago, and this was a week ago. [00:36:31] Speaker B: What, 10 days ago when it broke. [00:36:33] Speaker A: A couple days. Whenever this guy's stone cold, straight in my face, said, I think it's all. I was like, what? What? We're talking about the Clippers case that's blowing up socials right now. Pablo Torre, right? Is that his name? [00:36:52] Speaker C: Yep, yep. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Really cool pop podcast he has. He's our age, actually. Maybe like a year older. Really good journalistic qualities about him. I've never been, like, a crazy fan, personally. I know him and Bill Simmons have, like, a lot of beef, and that's like, a whole nother realm that we can get into some other day, but he just investigates stuff. He's the one that brought out those documents about the NFL and them colluding in the background, and that's gonna be breaking down in, like, subs in, like, the courts in the coming months and years. But now we got the Los Angeles Clippers with their billionaire owner, Steve Ballmer, richer than anyone else in the NBA. And the funny part is, I guess a lot of funny parts is like, there's no reason for him to circumvent anything to pay his player even more money. Although it is for the salary cap. But there's, like, so many layers to this where, if you guys remember, he was going to resign with Toronto. They just won the chip. I thought he might stay. There was rumors that Uncle Dennis, who's a close confidant of Kawhi Leonard, was asking for extra benefits, like it was a necessity not only to the Toronto Raptors, but to other teams that were interested in signing Kawhi Leonard for his services. Everyone's like, this is a joke, right? And I remember this. Like, I'm like, that's kind of weird. Like, no way that that's really, really, really happening. Surprise, surprise. He doesn't go to Lakers. He goes to the Clippers. And Paul George follows. And all the dominoes fall as well. But apparently he also signed, like, a sponsorship deal with this company called Aspiration that's also linked to the Intuit Dome. It's a no show sponsorship deal. He doesn't do a thing. No tweets, no twat. Or maybe. Maybe that's not the right word. No tweets. Nope. [00:38:49] Speaker B: You're all over the Night room. [00:38:50] Speaker A: I'm all over the map. I am drinking this espresso martini, and I was at the Chinatown Nightlife right now after work to kind of like decompress. My friend tried hooking me up with the 24 year old, so. [00:39:03] Speaker B: Well, well, you know, I won't, we won't go into great detail, but me and Jason, we saw the text, so it seems like you did get hooked up. We're just, we're not gonna go into it. That's a controversy topic. But hey, it's all good. [00:39:15] Speaker A: 24 year old girl. [00:39:17] Speaker B: It's all good, man. All right. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Anyways, I forgot where I left off. [00:39:23] Speaker C: Well, let me go back to the beginning because I do want to talk about just starting with Pablo, Pablo Torre, you mentioned. [00:39:28] Speaker A: So yeah, please. I know you said please do. [00:39:29] Speaker C: Yeah, for me, Me, I'm a big fan of Pablo, you know. [00:39:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:32] Speaker C: On espn. Did a lot, a lot of great work there. You know, he was on around the Horn, subbed in for pti. Yep. You know, he, he did the ESPN daily podcast for a while as well, associated with Dan LeBatard and metal arc Media, which I'm a big fan of. And just overall like guy went to Harvard, smart as heck. Doing real investigative journalism on this podcast. And this podcast is very unique. Like I'll tell you, like it's called Pablo Torres finds out. I will say he like there's different levels to where the podcast is. It's different structure. Like the stuff he's dropping right now is like straight investigative journalism stuff. And he does goofy stuff too, that and, and funny pieces and has comedians on and different things as well. You know, you mentioned your guy Bill Simmons, you know, brought him up and you know, kind of threw shade at him because his first big thing he was investigating was the Bill Belichick and his girlfriend Jordan and, and all this type of stuff and different things. And you know, basically Simmons wasn't. Calls him real journalism since then, you know, he drops the NFL PA story which is basically just, you know, dropping napalm all over the nflpa. And now this story even bigger to a point where, you know, calling out an owner for, I mean, you said the owner doesn't have to do it. I believe they absolutely do want to do this because you mentioned Ballmer. He's rich, a richest owner we have and he wants to win. This man bought the Clippers. He loves this team, he loves basketball, he wants to win. But the salary cap is, you know, professional socialism, you know, and in the real world he, he don't have to play by these rules. But now I can't get the guy I want. And when you're trying to bring the stars to LA, you can only do so much under the NBA's guidelines. And yeah, if Kai Kawhi's got Uncle Dennis asking for things and Kawhi won certain stuff like the, the Toronto stuff was crazy. I think rumors was he wanted to like a part ownership of the Maple Leafs too or something. [00:41:30] Speaker B: 10 free private plane to fly wherever. [00:41:33] Speaker C: Yeah, which isn't, which isn't the. Oh, you know, it isn't the most outrageous thing. You know. Remember my guy Caleb Williams for the Bears? I think his, his dad was asking for like ownership stake in the Bears as part of too. And so there's this thing around athletes now where they are expecting more and want more because of their value and you know, no shade on them because hey, their career is short. They have a very short window when you look at a player's career to maximize earning potentials versus the billionaires that own these extremely profitable sports franchises that you know, they got these things for decades right now where they're, the value's gone nothing but up over the past 10, 20, 30 years. When you from an NFL, from all these pro sports franchise. So I mean do I, I bought it 100 completely because how do I get this star to come to the Clippers who was close at the time going to stay with the Raptors, but he's going to go to the Lakers. He was going to go with LeBron. Remember that was the big thing. And it was shocked that he went to the Clippers and then they get Paul Jones. [00:42:32] Speaker A: It was shocking. Actually. It was pretty shocking. [00:42:34] Speaker B: I don't consider it shocking. The Clippers had the most money to offer. [00:42:37] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's the Clippers. [00:42:39] Speaker C: They, they, I guess they did but they have got, they had the most money offer under the table at the same time too, it seems like. So yeah, you know, but I, I, but personally, Rome, I don't think this is like, this isn't like the, a solo thing. That is the only organization doing that. I guarantee if people start digging deeper on the other stuff, I mean this is basically nil for pro sports right now. Yeah, they're, they're getting, they're getting recruited to come to an organization that just says like hey, I need a sponsorship money to come here and I'm gonna get it to you. The problem is they left these too big a paper trail. [00:43:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's the thing here. You got, I mean Palmer's by all accounts is very, very detail oriented. Not stupid. Like you mentioned, Rome has billions upon billions of dollars. Why go through a company that's now, you know, supposedly committed fraud of what, up to 250 million, whatever it is on investors. And you know, the paper trail, like you said, looks. It looks shady. [00:43:40] Speaker A: Well, well, even a guy like Ballman, right? Like, he, he's pretty thorough with every company he invests in. No way he even puts in. Although it's very little for him, it's still enough where he would still do his due diligence. [00:43:52] Speaker B: That's the thing too is if, let's say the. That's where my hesitancy is. Like, let's just say the Clippers are dirty. Why not just buy the company and then put it under another LLC or something. This doesn't even come out if it's not basically filing whatever for bankruptcy or being investigated fraud. That's the only reason why this is out. [00:44:09] Speaker A: That's really messy. [00:44:10] Speaker B: So I mean, if, if you're doing all this and you've got, you know, circulating the salary cap with your own company that you, what is. He had what, 3% ownership, I think he said, and you invested 50 million in. I mean, there's bet there's better ways to do it and especially a no show, no clause. Don't do anything. That's just dumb. I mean, that's completely stupid. The other thing is we, we said, Jason, that the Raptors and you mentioned were, you know, Uncle Dennis was asking for favors. The NBA investigated and said those, those claims were unbiased and untrue. So I got no faith in the NBA investigation since I believe all three of us on this panel believe those rumors to be true. If the NBA is coming out and saying all that was bogus, they had no claim or evidence. I don't think they're going to really look hard into the Clippers here with all this evidence that's coming out now. [00:45:01] Speaker C: I don't think. I don't think they will either. I think the investigation will go as deep as probably what outside journalism is going to do because this is a huge fire, you know, that's going up that, you know, Adam Silver doesn't want anything to, you know, does. Does. Doesn't want to come up at all. I think the one, the one thing about it, and I don't know how true this is too, but you look at. There's. There starts to be different trends and this I found funny, unverified. But Kawhi lettered in 2022, played 26 of games. Oh, due to. Due to right knee stiffness before the reported $1.75 million in delayed payment was made by aspiration, the day after it was deposited, Leonard went on to play 82% of total games for the rest of the season. So again, small links like here and there, where the money train was like coming in. Kawhi notoriously, has not been playing obviously the full load of games since he has signed with the Clippers. So I mean, at the end of the day, like you wrote, you laughed at me when I talk about sports socialism right there. But that is literally what I thought. [00:46:01] Speaker A: It was actually really good. I'm like, ah, that's such a. [00:46:05] Speaker C: And that's what this, it's what the salary cap is. It's for good reason. Because if you look at, yeah, if you look at, you know, my White Sox, for example, in baseball, they're, they, they won't even sign 100 million dollar player right now. There's no salary cap in baseball. There's extreme luxury taxes, though. And then when it comes to basketball, you know, you don't have a lot of star players in basketball. So what's LeBron James were? [00:46:29] Speaker B: Well, there's only so many supermax contract guys. [00:46:32] Speaker C: Super max. Like everyone gets a super max. But like, what's LeBron or Giannis or Jokers, what are they on the open market? A billion dollars. If there wasn't some sort of cap, what's Jerry Jones and football gonna do right now? Is he, is he trading Micah Parsons? If there isn't sort of capital implications and everything like that you have to deal with? Like you, you take this away from some of these owners, it would go wild for as far as how much money they would spend. And the reason it's all in there is they're controlling themselves from spending into oblivion and, you know, taking away the profits of the total league. Because some of these guys would go crazy because Ballmer, hey, I'm the rich, one of the top, I don't know, what is he? The top 50 richest men in the world? The richest man in basketball, at least. [00:47:17] Speaker B: I mean, you think it's worth what, 200 billion, right? Roughly. Close to it. [00:47:21] Speaker C: So what would he, what, what would stop him from just out pricing everybody? And so there's a reason for it. But at the same time, when you're this type of rich, I'm gonna find different ways to make sure I get the guys I need. You know, under the cap rules, Aaron. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. I mean, but then at the same. [00:47:39] Speaker A: I mean, look, I, I worth $150 billion, guys. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, like we said, I don't think the NBA is Going to come out because he spent his own money to build the best arena in the NBA. [00:47:51] Speaker A: I think they have to, they have no choice because Paulo just keeps on digging in. And every time he said, like he doesn't have enough information, he pulls out something else. I think they're just gonna get a slap in the face, though, or slap in the wrist. [00:48:02] Speaker B: Well, what's the slap in the wrist? The last time this happened, the team lost what, five first round picks? [00:48:06] Speaker A: I think they'll lose some picks. I think they'll probably get hit with like, I think like the max they can do with the. With the CBA currently in place, I think it's like 7.5 million. It's not a lot. And then technically they can avoid every single contract that's been signed since then. [00:48:23] Speaker C: But they won't do it. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:25] Speaker C: Because they're not, they're not going to like give the death penalty to a team, as Aaron said, especially Clippers. [00:48:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:48:32] Speaker C: You built the best arena in basketball and that and that type of thing. The problem is like, I mean, you start getting into a fight with these type of guys, and I know it's unlikely, but is Balmer the type of guy that just starts his own league and starts just paying like wild out. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Like, you know, he has enough money? [00:48:52] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm not saying he's going there, but I'll say they're gonna, they're gonna cover up because it's, it's a, it's a small little cartel that they're gonna have. You know, probably we might look into it, but doesn't find all the details at the end. They're only hurting the other owners out of this. So it's really the reaction probably behind closed doors of the 29 other owners is like, what is this guy doing right now? Because he's doing all. If he's really doing all this stuff behind the table, what's the impact of the other others going to look like? [00:49:17] Speaker A: And we're not really. [00:49:17] Speaker B: I think, I think the other question is too. Jason kind of brought it up earlier. Other owners are kind of doing the same thing, but not maybe in a shitty way. I mean, you sign players with the idea of hooking them up with sponsors. You can do that well. So everybody knows if you come to this market, L.A. chicago, New York, there's greater opportunity for sponsorship. You can use it as a sales pitch. There's nothing against it. [00:49:43] Speaker A: You can hook them up. [00:49:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all kind of the same queue. Like Jason said, it's all nil Your name, image and likeness. It's larger in LA than it would. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Aspirations even use his likeness. [00:49:54] Speaker B: I don't know what aspiration did it seems like they. What they. They almost had the naming rights to the new building until it went to Intuit. As far as what we read crazy. [00:50:05] Speaker A: Because Intuit's such a big company. Aspirations, nothing. [00:50:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:10] Speaker C: Well think of like what was the Miami crypto, the FTX arena or. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Whatever like that scammed there. So we'll find out. I mean there's gonna be more information that comes out more paper trail. [00:50:22] Speaker C: It's a big story. But at the same time it's really what's going to be the behind the closed door stuff because it does. It doesn't really affect the players. From a fan's perspective, you're a Clippers fan, you're like, okay, damn right, man, whatever we can do to get this guy here. And so from the other owners, what is it from a fair and balance if they're talking about like how they want to run the league and that and that's where it's going to hit. Like how, how vocal will other owners be against Ballmer in this particular situation is some of this stuff's founded. But you've had Mark Cuban out there. Like he went on Pablo Torres podcast after the first one. [00:50:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I tended to agree with Cuban on that one a little bit. [00:50:56] Speaker C: And, and he, and he was defending it so that there wasn't anything wrong with it or it wasn't all the way correct. But a lot of questions but it's, it's a massive story because you don't see this type of thing. They're kind of getting exposed a little bit. [00:51:10] Speaker B: I mean the other thing is you're gonna have to prove. I don't know of anybody from. They have one source. But are the people that really ran aspiration going to come out and say like, yeah, we. Are they gonna, are they gonna make a deal and say yeah you know, we, we did, we did a deal with Ballmer and the Clippers isn't how it went down. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Employees talking about it. [00:51:28] Speaker B: According to Ballmer, like they did not introduce Kawhi to them until four months after a contract was signed. So where's. Is there emails, is there text, is there more information that that's what we need. You just right now it's, there's a paper trail and there's people that are kind of like, oh hey, you guys circumvented the salary cap. Let's see, let's, let's get Some more facts on it. [00:51:51] Speaker A: Check out that episode on he has a couple now. Pablo Torre. I might answer some questions. I don't know. I kind of hope they kind of come down hard on the Clippers. I don't like the Clippers. So how do you feel? Bad. [00:52:05] Speaker B: I, I don't, I don't think they will. Given what Ballmer did to save that organization from Donald Sterling, I think he's going to get slapped on the wrist and probably undisclosed fine under the table. And if you do it again, we'll kick you out of the league. And if not, all is good. [00:52:20] Speaker A: That's what I think. [00:52:22] Speaker C: I agree with Aaron. Yeah, I, I think, I think Ballmer has his own power with inside this room. As Aaron said, he's done a lot for the league, the stadium and what it's attract. [00:52:31] Speaker A: Well, he has a lot of good will that that's. You guys are saying he has enough goodwill to get us on the wrist but if he does it again, he's out. [00:52:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, I think so. [00:52:39] Speaker A: That's fair. I, I think that's fair. I, I think it's gonna be a stiff penalty though. [00:52:43] Speaker C: You could. Yeah, potentially. I don't know. I think there's monetary stuff like Aaron talked about what it would be and then like what's the good, the goodwill to the other owners if it's draft picks five seems probably extreme for it. Yeah. So I don't, I don't know if they really do that because you're not trying to kill the organization and, and what it's about. [00:53:03] Speaker B: So I, I think the more interesting things would be if they just void Kawhi's contract and make him a free agent. And if I'm up the Clippers, I'd be fine with that, honestly. Yeah. [00:53:13] Speaker A: Well, obviously. Yeah. All right. Yeah. It'll be doing the Clippers a favorite. [00:53:17] Speaker B: If you said, hey, we're gonna, Kawhi's gonna be a free agent. We're gonna find you what Romeo said seven and a half million and we'll take one first round pick. I think the Clippers would sign off on that today. [00:53:27] Speaker A: That's too little. I want them to take at least three. That's, that's a lot. You can't get a first round pick for three years. Yeah. In fact you can't get any picks for three years. Take them all away. I think three is fair. I love though like the other general reaction though from about Kawaii like having like a no show sponsorship like Stephen A. Smith, you know, it's like he's like, well, that's what he's been doing anyways. This guy hasn't showed up in New Years. You know, it's like. [00:53:53] Speaker B: It's like. [00:53:53] Speaker A: I mean, it's so funny. [00:53:55] Speaker C: It's fair. I mean, he's. He's like, what a quiet superstar. Doesn't say anything, doesn't promote anything, doesn't show up to games. You know, basically. I mean, they got a what load Management things to get NBA, like awards and everything like that. [00:54:12] Speaker A: But, I mean, the only. [00:54:13] Speaker B: The only thing Kawhi sponsors is what? New Balance. Right. Who also happens to be with our guy. You know, Ohtani's on there, too. So I'm just saying there's a lot going on here. [00:54:28] Speaker C: Trying to link some. [00:54:32] Speaker B: Look into it. [00:54:32] Speaker A: At least, like one clip. Oh, Tanya's like the main centerpiece. [00:54:40] Speaker C: I don't know. You're talking about the one where they. [00:54:41] Speaker B: Just got the difference ones. [00:54:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:44] Speaker B: And he used to do Reebok shoe back in the day, too, I believe. Right. [00:54:48] Speaker A: I don't remember about Kawai. I just know about this thing of doing shady deals. Kind of runs in the family. That. That's what I'm trying to pick up on. I need an Uncle Dennis. I need someone to help me out on that front. [00:55:03] Speaker C: Be careful making moves, man. [00:55:05] Speaker B: Be careful, man. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Make moves. He's like, I gotta get my nephew some money. [00:55:07] Speaker B: I want to know where Uncle Dennis is at right now. Because he's quiet. [00:55:10] Speaker A: They're probably in Moreno Valley, right? That's where they live. Living that. [00:55:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:14] Speaker A: Life. I hate boat. Right. I hate Marina Valley. I don't hate it. I. I should delete. [00:55:19] Speaker B: I'm not a big fan. [00:55:21] Speaker A: It's not my favorite place. Yeah, yeah, it's all right. Any final thoughts? All right, we'll take a quick break, and then when we come back, some NFL lines. Lines of the boys on a Friday night. Who doesn't like lines on a Friday night with boys after this? All right, the time is here. The time is now. Friday night, September 12th. Aaron Jason here on source from the sofa. On the sofa. Friday night lines. I'm not sure if we'll do it every Friday night. It's at least Thursday or Friday, but it's always lines to kind of kick off the weekend because that's how we do it. Yuri heard Aaron's college games of the week, and now we're going to cover every game. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Rome. I just want to touch on the college games real quick. Friday night specials, two zero. We hit both of those. Houston minus four A winner, Eric. Arizona just won outright. So two zero on the Friday night special. Rome, for those keeping track of the record. [00:56:27] Speaker A: I love it. We do need to keep track of the record. [00:56:31] Speaker B: College, maybe. Pro, not so much. [00:56:34] Speaker C: I believe I won last week, though, right, guys? I was. [00:56:38] Speaker B: I think he had one more win than me and two more than Rome. [00:56:40] Speaker C: Okay. [00:56:41] Speaker B: Yep. Okay, I'll take. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Jason won last week. We were all pretty close. I had some swings and a mission. I'm not mad about that, but. All right, let's take it underway. Obviously, commanders, packers already done in the books. Jason, though, just curious, who did you have going to that game? [00:56:58] Speaker C: I probably would have reluctantly taken the packers just being at home. Lambeau. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Wow. [00:57:05] Speaker C: I mean, I'm a Bears fan. It's really hard to pick the packers at any game. But I. I'll give credit where credit's due, man. [00:57:12] Speaker B: They. [00:57:13] Speaker C: They've looked really good. They have looked really good. And defense, like, defensively, you know, Parsons smirk. I know. I saw it. [00:57:22] Speaker A: Smirk. This guy's a cocky son of a. Right now, there's no. [00:57:25] Speaker C: There's no reason, you know, not for him to have a smirk because they look really, really good. Like, defensively, the addition of Micah Parsons, like, maybe it's just that missing piece to a young, hungry, you know, defense that really locked down what was considered this great offense. I was hating on the Washington offense all last year after they destroyed the Bears with that Hail Mary. And then the comparisons between Jaden and Caleb Williams. But the packers, man, they look great on both sides of the ball. Where things are at. They get the running game going. It's appropriately love. Really gets the ball around to every single target. I mean, Kraft was the. The outs, you know, the big playmaker. I'll take that for my main fantasy league right there. Looking good on the squad. So, you know, yeah, I would have picked the Packers. I didn't think it'd be that. That, I guess, lopsided in the game, to be honest with you. But I will ask you guys a question, because, Rome, you said you're gonna give me the Bear segment at some point. I'm not going to make this the Bear segment right now, but if Caleb Williams played like Jaden Daniels did last night, would the media attention be the exact same? [00:58:33] Speaker A: They did not play the same. [00:58:34] Speaker C: Oh, no. Oh, okay. I just want to make sure. I. I want you to check the stat lines on the question. [00:58:42] Speaker A: Maybe that answered your question. [00:58:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it did. [00:58:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:44] Speaker C: Because. Yeah, we just. We have a bias against Caleb because he paints his nails. But. [00:58:48] Speaker B: But no, it's okay. [00:58:49] Speaker C: Well, you can go whatever, whatever everyone wants to talk about. [00:58:51] Speaker B: It's so defensive. [00:58:52] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:58:53] Speaker C: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. But no, the packers looked amazing, man. I, I will say, I will say. I, I'm, I'm. We, Aaron and I, we had the clips all over social. Aaron just writing off the Detroit Lions. Yeah, I think, I think the Packers. [00:59:06] Speaker A: Oh, I got you guys on there. I hope you guys like that clip. [00:59:09] Speaker C: I love the. [00:59:10] Speaker B: I hope the audience likes it. I personally keep watching it over and over Rome. So maybe all those views are me. [00:59:16] Speaker C: It's a great clip with 400. I think that's where if I'm going wrong from the preseason petitions already like the Lions are done, the packers are rising. The packers probably legit super bowl contender right now in Rome. You're way too early, like overreactions. But I mean there's, there's not much not to like in the first two weeks of the season for Green Bay. [00:59:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So Jason, you, you weren't here for the earlier section that we recorded with Aaron, but I, I mentioned how like love for instance. Right. Fairly efficient game. He still got 60 of the strokes, as Aaron pointed out, but he was still missing a lot of his guys in stride. And if he would have start, if he would have hit half of them, they could have gained so much more and who knows what the score would have been at the end of it once they figure that out and it's still a new, new season and, and then with the additional Parsons, they look really scary. Like it's like a pack of hyenas hunting a gazelle or something like that. It's, it's, it's, it's pretty wild already and it's only week two, but yeah, Packers a lot of promise there in, in the early season. Most definitely. Aaron might have a really good year. Who knows, Maybe that is the year 20 follows in the Brad Farb and Aaron Rodgers patheon of winning the championship when they're turning 26. All right, you guys ready for some lines? Yep. All right, let's do it. Patriots, Dolphins for game one. This is Sunday, 10am we're going to start with the 10am calls. And remember this is going on YouTube. So let's just speed through this. Let's get these picks to the guys. Patriots plus one. Dolphins minus one. Aaron, you go first. [01:00:56] Speaker B: Well, we saw what the Dolphins look like last week. Not very good. They're at home. Jason's noted before that they play pretty good in September at home. But I'm going to take the Patriots here. Mike Rabel, he's going to get his first one as a head coach there for the Patriots. I'm going to go with the road dog Patriots to get the victory and get the one on one. [01:01:18] Speaker A: Nice, Jason. [01:01:18] Speaker C: As much as I don't want to do this, I think September is the time where this Miami team needs to shine. And if we've Talked about Mike McDaniel being on the hottest of hot seats after a bad week one, they need a big comeback game. Probably going to be a thousand degrees in South Florida this weekend. The Patriots didn't look as good as we thought they were going to be in week one. I think this is a kind of. I don't want to say it's a must win for the Dolphins, but they're going to really need this game if they're going to salvage any part of this season. I'll take Miami minus one. [01:01:47] Speaker B: Wow. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Okay. I love it. This would be a stay away game, guys. This would be a stay away game. Dolphins definitely need the victory. The Patriots did not look as sharp as I wanted to look in week one. Drake May did what he could. I think the Pats have to win this game, that they have to put the Dolphins out the misery. But I do expect it to be a fight. I am. I don't know why, but I'm leading the Dolphins and I'm hating myself for it. I just feel like they might pull this victory out against the Pats path. Start. Pats start. Oh, and two to start the season. But my lean is Dolphins get the victory as well. Am I regretting that? I'm already regretting it. [01:02:29] Speaker C: Well, I notate. I'm notating Rome of via stay aways going forward for you. So we can just like right here. Just, just. [01:02:37] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. [01:02:38] Speaker C: Just. I'll notate it. [01:02:39] Speaker A: So when Rome myself at five max a week. Because you guys are right on the run the tape. All right. You guys are right. When I heard the tape, it was five and it was actually a tentative six, actually, because I had another game on there and I was like these son of a bitches. I was ready to throw in your fucking face. But I couldn't, all right? Because it's on the tape. It's on. It's on the YouTube channel that I had six day week games in game. [01:03:06] Speaker B: I think we. We called you out as soon as you reached five. You tried to lie, but again, film does not lie. Film does not lie. [01:03:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it does not lie. Aaron, you're Absolutely right. Jags at the Bengals. Bengals favored by three and a half. 49 over under. By the way, the 43 over under for Patriots Dolphins. It's going to be on the under. I'm definitely taking that. [01:03:27] Speaker B: I, I would agree with that. [01:03:28] Speaker A: Yeah. 49 for the Jaguars. Bengals. Jason, you go first. [01:03:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Again, the Bengals off to the slow start, but they were able to get the win last week versus Cleveland. I don't want to say a shockingly good defensive performance because there's a lot of things going on in that game, but this is a team that's seen as not a great defense in Cincinnati. The Jaguars, well, looked good ish early before the, what was that, like hour and a half like lightning delay they had down in Florida. I just still didn't see like Trevor Lawrence clicking at a certain point where even versus a Carolina Panthers defense. Like, you know, what were we gonna get there? Forcing the ball to Travis Hunter. As we talked about in the pod on Sunday night, they didn't get the ball to Brian Thomas. They did trade Tank Bigsby this week. And so now I guess they're going all in on Travis etn, who really has kind of been underutilized. Ish to a degree. So maybe they're going to try to start feeding him a little more. [01:04:21] Speaker A: He's good. [01:04:22] Speaker C: But I think you're gonna find another gear in the Bengals offense this week versus Jacksonville. I'm gonna take the Bengals minus three. [01:04:30] Speaker B: I'm gonna agree. I'm gonna go with the Bengals here minus three and a half as well. Jaguars weak opponent. Carolina couldn't move the ball like Jason said, didn't do a whole lot. Bengals tough divisional win on the road. Good defense Cleveland does have for the Bengals. We know their defensive unit's not great, but when they have been good, they force turnovers. They force turnovers in that game. I think they're force Jacksonville into some turnovers. I like the Bengals here to cover the three and a half at home. [01:04:59] Speaker A: It's a clean sweep because I, I, I agree with you guys. We did not see the Bengals at full power. I think they're going to respond big in week two. Everything you said, Jason, all valid. I just don't think it's going to happen here, especially when the Bengals are at home. Remember, the Bengals were really shaky at home last year. They're going to correct a little bit of that this year. And plus you got to show all that money, money, money that they signed everyone to. Bengals are going to win big in this one. I think at Least by a touchdown. Yeah. Bengals all day. Browns, Ravens next game. Crazy. If you guys remember last year the big heavy favorites did not cover. But here, Ravens 11 and a half over their divisional rivals. Browns over under is 45. This is a tough one. Aaron, go ahead. [01:05:44] Speaker B: Divisional game. A lot of points to give. The Ravens looked Great for about three and a half quarters against Buffalo. Dropped what, 40 on them but unfortunately gave up 41. The Ravens are going to look to avoid what they did last year. They started 0 2. They lost the opener last year to KC by one point, then lost a tough heartbreak game that they were up double digits to the Raiders. I'm going to take the Ravens here. I just don't see the Browns being able to win late. Late touchdown by Baltimore to get them the 12 to 14 point win. I'll take the Ravens 11 and a half. [01:06:15] Speaker A: Wow. Okay, Jason. [01:06:17] Speaker C: I'm gonna go the opposite. I think the Ravens do absolutely win this game. But like Aaron said, it's a close divisional game. You saw last week, Cleveland was able to stay in versus stay in the game versus a Cincinnati offense that you know should have been much better. You know, they got, they do have talent in Cleveland. I think they're not a great team, but there's talent on sides on each side of the ball there for them. I don't know if they can keep pace with scoring the points, but 11 and a half's a lot in the division game. It being the Browns generally play the Ravens pretty tough. So I'll take the. The Browns plus eleven and a half. [01:06:50] Speaker A: Yeah, eleven and a half is pretty tough. I agree with you, Jason. I actually liked what I saw from the Browns. They have some, they have a couple guys coming back, especially their running backs. I think their wide receivers drop some big passes that could have gotten the victory in week one. I think it's be closer. It's divisional game. I, I do think the Ravens win possibly by seven, maybe 10 points. But 11 and a half is just a little too much for me. I got the Browns to cover. But Ravens do win to avenge their first week loss. Giants Cowboys 44 and a half. Cowboys favored by five and a half. Wow. What do you guys think? Jason, Go ahead. [01:07:31] Speaker C: I don't want to cop out and do the Rome stay away game right here, but man, I just don't like this number. But again, I've not been impressed by the Giants for a number of years now. I think you guys have continued to try to talk me into the talent the Giants have. The Cowboys shocked some people I think last week and what they were able to do in that opener. It's a lot of points for a close game in the division when we're really not sold on what the Cowboys can be defensively without Micah Parsons offensively, you know, what do they have from a running game. But they got a lot of Javonta Williams in the first half. I'll reluctantly take the Cowboys minus five and a half. [01:08:08] Speaker A: Oh, wow, Aaron. [01:08:11] Speaker B: I love Dallas. Minus five and a half here in this game. The Giants, I don't know. You know, I watched Washington's defense yesterday. Green Bay had two 90 plus yard touchdown drives and the Giants got six points against those guys. Russell Wilson's washed up. This will be the last game he starts. Cowboys win and they win big. [01:08:30] Speaker A: Okay. Surprisingly I agree with Jason again. It's kind of weird. This would be a stay away game as well for me. I don't know what to expect. I was really impressed. I talked a big game about the Cowboys. I'm not a Cowboys guy, but I like them in week one at least where they showed up Giants. I was kind of up on how they would respond in week two. I don't know if Russell's washed up yet. It's going to be really interesting to see what happens. This is in Dallas, in Arlington. Yeah, you know, I don't know. I just don't know if the Cowboys are coached as well and as composed as well as they were last week. They're gonna win some ball games this week. I barely got them covering this thing. Cowboys maybe by a couple, couple field goals, who knows? That's my lean. Otherwise I would stay away from this next game. Rams at the tie ins. Rams here by five and a half. 41 and a half over under Aaron. Go ahead. [01:09:32] Speaker B: Yeah, interesting game here. Rams did not look good offensively. Week one Titans didn't look good either. Rams traveling to Nashville here. I'm going with the Titans getting five and a half. I thought, I thought the Titans had a good chance to beat the Brown or beat the Broncos in that opener. A lot of drop passes. A lot of drop passes that I think they'll get cleaned up this week. I think if you're looking for an upset, outright winner, I think the Titans can win this game outright. But I'll take them to cover five and a half. [01:09:59] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [01:10:00] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with Aaron on this one. I think the Rams, you know, they got some talent. There's already like from what they got last week. A lot of buzz articles on them being a Super bowl contender and they did take the Eagles really to the, to the, to the breaking point in the playoffs last year. You know, verse on the, on the defensive side but offensively I, I just don't know kind of what's going on sometimes with, with Stafford and what it's, what it's gonna, what it's gonna look like. I trust Sean McVeigh that, you know they're gonna, they're gonna get it figured out. They always do. But I think the games are generally, when I look at the Rams games always feel closer than they kind of should be. So that's why I'll, I'll take the Titans plus five and a half. [01:10:39] Speaker A: Aaron, you had a winning straight up. [01:10:42] Speaker B: I think, I think the Titans can win this game straight up. But I'm not gonna go out and say that they will but five and a half. I do like that this can be, this can be a tight ball game. Like a 21, 20, 2119 type game. [01:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I do like the Rams win in this one. I just think they're so much more talented. But it is a way. I don't know exactly where the geography Tennessee is. I don't know if that actually makes difference of being just a three hour flight away. Is it a three hour flight flight away? Maybe four. [01:11:14] Speaker C: Probably about four. You're going and then you're going all the way to the eastern time zone. [01:11:19] Speaker A: But it's a nice afternoon game. At least you're from the West Coast. This is really tricky. I'm not sure if this would technically be a stay away from me or not. This would be like a Sunday morning call. I'm leaning. I think the Rams will win. [01:11:35] Speaker B: So what side are you on Rome? [01:11:37] Speaker A: I think I'm just gonna take the Rams. I'm gonna take the Rams. I think it'd be close but they, but they cover the five and a half next game, 46 and a half over under for the Bills, six and a half point favorites against the jets at Meadowlands, New Jersey. [01:11:58] Speaker C: The Meadowlands. [01:12:00] Speaker B: Meadowlands, East Rutherford, New Jersey. [01:12:04] Speaker A: Who went first last time? [01:12:05] Speaker B: I did. [01:12:06] Speaker A: Right. All right, Jason, go ahead. [01:12:08] Speaker C: Tough line. If you would ask me this before to start the season, I would have said this was an easy Buffalo minus six and a half pick. But Justin Fields, Breeze Hall, Garrett Wilson, I mean it was impressive last week against your Steelers Rome, that's a really good defense. And when you look at us Buffalo last week against Lamar Jackson, you know you're getting another athletic quarterback in Justin Fields and be able to scramble around and potentially make some throws. Obviously not in Lamar's league, but I. I think there's an ability to put points up there at home. I think it's a lot of points. I'm gonna take the jets plus six and a half. [01:12:45] Speaker B: Wow. Wow. I'm gonna agree. I mean Josh Allen has always kind of struggled there. They've always had tight games. Two three point victories when Salah was there. If the jets are anything like we saw in week one and they Steelers got a good defense, they ran all over them. Derrick Henry and Lamar had a field day against this Buffalo defense. They're going to be about one of their main D tackles in this game. Their secondary is already small and short. If you're looking for another upset, I think the jets can win this game outright. Josh Allen I think saves Buffalo again. But I'm going to take the jets to cover six and a half. [01:13:20] Speaker A: Wow. I. So here's. Here's a couple things I think the Bills will cover. I think it'd be a really close game. They really ink it out with like a game winning drive to cover. But because the week one was such a high. Right. That was such an intense game. That was like a game that you see like in Week 17 playoff implications. [01:13:40] Speaker B: It had a playoff vibe in game field too. [01:13:43] Speaker A: Such a playoff wide in week one. I. I do expect a little bit of a letdown. This is just too much of a high to get through. I know in my daily life with like when I have intense going down, I'm pretty much dead for like a week or two after that. I'm surprised. You guys taking a chance though. I was not. [01:14:00] Speaker B: So. That's a lot. It's a lot of points. It's a lot of points here. [01:14:03] Speaker A: It's a lot, dude. It's a lot. It's really tricky. It's really tricky. I'm gonna say the Bills cover though. I'm just gonna go with it. I think the Bill's cover. I do think it's definitely gonna go on the over. By the way, Rams Titans 41 and a half. That's like right like at the breaking point, you know that's like a stay away. I would not do the over under on that one. Yeah, let's go with the jets though. I mean Bills next game Bears. Jason's Bears. What a showing on Monday Night Football the week prior. Hella first half. If they only handed out championships after one quarter, Bears would have it Lions favored by five and a half. You guys were on them last week. We got a clip on the socials and on YouTube about how you're not fans of Dan Campbell and this new staff, despite how loaded they are, 46 and a half over under, just like the game prior. Aaron, you go first. [01:15:08] Speaker B: I'll keep it simple. I'll keep it sweet. That way Jason can talk. Lions win. Bears cover. Give me the Bears to cover. Five and a half. [01:15:15] Speaker A: Okay. [01:15:16] Speaker C: I mean, this is just an insane spread. It's a joke, right? Five and a half. You know, this the team. The. The Lions team we saw last week. Like struggling offense without Ben Johnson. Yes. Okay, you're gonna play jokes here. Rome, the Bears didn't look great in the first half. We haven't had a segment since the Monday night game. You know, Bears Twitter's melting down with it. But it's game. But it's game one of a new era. And if you're looking at halftime, yeah, the Bears were up and feeling themselves. But also at the same time, the number one wide receiver in the league on the other side was kept silent by the Bears third and fourth corners because the first two, the number one and two corners were out for the game. Also a linebacker. [01:15:57] Speaker A: That was a text message. Threats, Right? [01:15:59] Speaker C: Right. [01:15:59] Speaker A: So we heard you. [01:16:00] Speaker C: We'll just overlook some of that stuff going on in the game. [01:16:03] Speaker A: Did the Bears off Twitter was saying the same things. But by the way, everything is sitting here in your little text messages is on threads. It was on X. [01:16:10] Speaker C: That's fine because it was facts, Rome, as we're just facts coming out when you're going to the game. How did Justin Jefferson not have a better first half? All right, it was. It was bound to bust over the second. The second half. Now, there was mistakes in the game. I'll give Ben Johnson this accountability. We talk about the kick at the end of the game, you know, wasting time on the clock there and some of the other decisions that were made. I didn't really like going for it on fourth down early in the first half and not taking the three points on the board. Those come back to bite you at the come back to. And Caleb missed some throws. And then there's overreaction on, like where Caleb's at. Yes, he did miss some throws. He also threw hell of a dime down the sideline to Roma. Dunze on the run. Okay, so him. It's just going to be about consistency. And I'm talking about Caleb specifically. There are some things in the offense I didn't like. He never felt looked comfortable the entire game. He was always moving around, always running the offensive Line. They paid all this money for two of those guys just standing there, not blocking anyone, waiting for somebody to come right into Caleb. So there's some things to clean up. However, going into game two, this game for Ben Johnson, this is personal. All right. So I think it's an easy cover for me. Five and a half. And they're going to win this game too. This is your upset right here. [01:17:16] Speaker B: I like it. I like it. [01:17:17] Speaker A: Wow. All right. This is Jason's upset of the week. So Bears win outright, right? [01:17:27] Speaker C: Yeah, but I'll take the five and a half. If you're gonna give me a two. Yeah, you're just gonna give me five and a half points. I'll take that. [01:17:32] Speaker A: All right. You know, I'm in agreeance with Aaron actually. I think the Lions take the W but Bears cover. I think it's going to be a probably a game winning driver. Touchdown here. Golf showing that he's worth whatever that money that he's making. They win by it could be four points, could be six points. I'm leaning on the Bears covering. I, I think from what I saw, Jason, the Bears offense looked really good. Caleb Williams missed a lot of big plays but still kept the chains moving along. I think once his processing gets a little bit faster, things change. I think Ben Johnson, based on what I saw, man, it's going to be a really fun season for the Bears. So I do think they're going to correct some of those mistakes and be a little more competitive and stay a little bit longer in this one. But unfortunately the Lions have to win this game. The Bears, I don't think they have to. [01:18:24] Speaker B: They have to win for Rome because if not he's. [01:18:26] Speaker A: They have to win this game. [01:18:28] Speaker B: He might as well just get out of the bet now with the steak dinner. But Rome. Yeah, I mean, I'll touch on. I mean, yeah, Caleb did miss some throws, but he want to get to Brian Flores. Defense you get a lot of pressure. You get a lot of pressure on a lot of different looks. He's going to get a very vanilla man to man defense from Detroit. I think it's going to simplify things for him a lot. And agree with Jason. The Bears are primed for getting an upset win here. Five and a half. That line's a joke to me. Based on what we saw by Detroit. I think Detroit wins late by their defense. Aiden Hutchinson getting his strip sack or something on Caleb, that's going to be the difference. But it's going to be a tight game. [01:19:02] Speaker A: Yeah, that might be the game of the week, actually, for me. We'll see. All right, I think we got two more morning games. Seahawks at the Steelers. Steelers here by three points over under 40 points. Jason, go ahead. [01:19:14] Speaker C: Yeah, Rome, you already brought up the west coast to east coast thing in this game. I think the Seahawks are always, you know, on kind of watch when they're going through some of these time zones. Aaron Rodgers looked better than I expected, I'll be honest. In week one, I think there was. [01:19:29] Speaker A: A little, there's look, right? [01:19:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I think, I think maybe in the last five years. I don't know, I don't want to go, you know, year by year, but, like, he looked a little more, you know, agile in the pocket, able to, you know, move his feet a little bit. He obviously wasn't doing the scrambling when he was in his prime, but he's. [01:19:43] Speaker A: He looked best, he's looked in three, four years. Years, most definitely. [01:19:46] Speaker C: Yeah. So I, I, I think it's there. The arms never left him. It's just been more about, you know, can he move around in the pocket, avoid some pressure. Exactly. Rome's making the moves on camera, getting, getting that done, but, and he found DK Metcalf and a few other things. The running game surprised me, too, because you never didn't see rookie Caleb Johnson in there, you know, and they were, they were mixing in, you know, was it, you know, I forgot who they were mixing in there, but it was some interesting stuff. But the Seahawks, I don't know. There's, there still seems to be a transition going. You're switching quarterbacks in year two of a coach. Don't know what you're getting out of the quarterback position quite yet. Running back Kenneth Walker, you know, he had a breakout year a couple years ago. Really quiet in the playmaking stuff. Looks like Charbonnet's taking some carries from him. I like the Steelers minus three in this. [01:20:34] Speaker A: Okay, Aaron? [01:20:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the Steelers a minus three as well. Steelers defense plays of a lot of pride. They were embarrassed last week. I think Tomlin and those guys are going to be fired up. They're getting an offense that isn't clicking, still developing, doesn't really have a lot of playmakers and a lot of speed. Seattle could be in trouble here. They're going to be about one of their corners as well. I know Porter Junior's out for the Steelers, but they got depth. They got on that defensive side of the ball. And Aaron Rodgers, like you guys said, he looked great. He said he was dealing with back spasms and back Tightness that he'll even look better this week. I believe it. I like the Steelers minus three. I like him to win by at least a touchdown here. [01:21:13] Speaker A: Nice. It's gonna be clean sweep for the Steelers here. For me, I'm not gonna go against my Steelers this year, just to be brutally honest. I know our tagline on our pod is unbiased opinions, and I'm telling you, I'm gonna be biased as on every pick this year for the Steelers. The Steelers always lay an egg, though, early in the season against. [01:21:38] Speaker B: A close. [01:21:38] Speaker A: Team, you know, a close competitive team like this. I think the Seahawks can win this one. I think the Seahawks showed a lot of fight against the 49ers. I think they're itching for a win. And if there's a game that the Steelers might drop, I don't know, I'm just getting like weird vibes from this one. Only three points. It's basically a pick them to me, 40 points. The over, under. It's going to be kind of close just because Aaron Rodgers, DJ Metcalf, Fryermouth, they got their tight ends, you know, their. Their fresh running backs. I think it's going to go over at least though. So I got the over 40, but Steelers win. But if there's a potential upset, I think this might be it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers just be honest with you. [01:22:27] Speaker C: So you got Pittsburgh minus three then? [01:22:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:30] Speaker C: All right, Rome, I just want to do a quick check right now. We're, give or take, about halfway through this. You only got two stay aways from my record keeping. [01:22:41] Speaker A: That's correct. [01:22:42] Speaker C: Okay. Just want to make sure we got Dallas as a stay away in Miami as a stay away. Just want to make sure. [01:22:46] Speaker A: Yep. [01:22:47] Speaker C: Rome gets five stayaways for the audience this year. You know, doesn't want to come out too hard one way or the other and put his neck out on the line. So we just want to make sure Rome gets his five stay aways. [01:22:56] Speaker A: By the way, I do like to come hard. Right. Never mind there I. Forget it. [01:23:01] Speaker B: You were talking solved hard earlier, Rome. [01:23:04] Speaker A: So last morning, game 49ers and Saints. Brock Purdy is out for two to five weeks with the turf toe. Everybody is out on the winners. I picked them to make a deep playoff run and this is how they return the favor because they're going to be healthier this year and everything's falling flat on my face. Maybe my friend Will and his wife, who have been season ticket holders for 30 years, know more than me about the steel about the 49ers because they said seven wins max. And I'm starting to believe them even after week one because I was not impressed by the win against Seahawks. I know other people were. I know everyone liked them. That game winning drive by per guy. [01:23:46] Speaker B: Man, that was so goddamn lucky. [01:23:48] Speaker A: Now you got big bad Mac Jones starting. And although I did like him in that first initial year with the Patriots, he looked like doggy doo. And it is against the Saints, though. But the Saints were still pretty competitive against a tough Arizona team. Home again, 40 and a half over under Aaron. You go first. [01:24:14] Speaker B: There's a lot of questions going in this game. I mean, who. Who is even suiting up for the 49ers? We know Brock Purdy's out. We know George Kettle is out. Jennings is probably questionable at best with the shoulder. If he plays, does he make it through the game? Trent Williams, one of the best tackles in the game, is banged up. I. I can't believe I'm going to say it. I'm gonna take the saints plus three. They're healthier. They're at home. The 49ers just cut their kicker and this is a clap. [01:24:43] Speaker A: Moody is gone. [01:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:46] Speaker A: To the practice squad, so that's not a good sign. [01:24:50] Speaker B: He's a Michigan guy, so he'll be all right out in that area. All right, I'm gonna go the Saints here. Plus plus three. Brandon Staley, defensive coordinator for the Saints, he was part of that staff last year. The winners, Kellen Moore, they showed some good. They showed some life against an Arizona team that I think is as good, if not better than the 49ers, at least from a health standpoint. Personnel, if they got active. I'm going to take the Saints plus three. Wouldn't it be surprised if they win this game and get killing more. His first NFL head coach victory. [01:25:20] Speaker A: Wow. Wow. [01:25:23] Speaker C: Jason, The Saints are still a bad team. [01:25:26] Speaker A: And. [01:25:26] Speaker C: And the Niners won last week. You're freaking out about everything. The Niners won last week. They're 1 0. But what we didn't see last week didn't see a lot of Brian Robinson in the running game. Obviously, McCaffrey was still getting reps out there. You know, give Shanahan his due for being creative offensively. What can he. He's. He's able to do things with replaceable running backs for the past half decade. Right now he's got a, you know, obviously a great running back in McCaffrey, really good running back in Robinson. Pierce saw. Had himself a pretty good game last Week on the outside. And Mac Jones, you know, I'm not going to say he's going to come out and like the word on fire. Fire. But, you know, hey, he's a serviceable backup. He started in this league. I think he played within the Shanahan offense. I think they could do enough to win this game and they do it enough to cover as well. [01:26:11] Speaker A: Jason, you pumped me up, man, because I was going to lean towards Aaron actually on this one. [01:26:15] Speaker B: This. [01:26:15] Speaker A: I actually had this marked as a stay away game for me. I'm a little nervous. I think the Saints are good enough to win three or four games. This looks like one of those games that they can do it. This is upset alert for me. I think Aaron's absolutely right. They can actually steal this game away. But thank you for talking me back to my senses. I will take the 49ers reluctantly. You're right. They got a lot of weapons still. And you know, Mac Jones, right? It's Mac Jones. I think he'll do good. How bad can it be? How bad can it be? 49ers for the last morning night game. Morning game. All right. How you guys feeling? [01:27:01] Speaker C: I'm feeling good. [01:27:03] Speaker A: Awesome. Let's do afternoon games. 105 Pacific Time. Panthers at the Cardinals. Cardinals favorite by seven points over under 44. Jason, who do you got, man, this. [01:27:16] Speaker C: One'S tough to look at. I'd almost say I'm not going to cop out in a stayaway game on this. Rome. The Panthers did not look good against a average Jacksonville team. They kept it close. Arizona, like, you know, they got the different weapons and there's different things offensively, offensively, they can go to. It's just a lot of points. But I'm, I'm still going to go with Arizona in this. -7. [01:27:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, Carolina, where they scored 10 points against the Jags last week. Arizona got that tough win, held on to beat the Saints. Arizona, traditionally early in the year at home has put up some big numbers. We saw last year early. They put up about 40 on the Rams. They played good at home. I'm going to go with the Cardinals here, too, to cover the 7. Panthers right now offensively, are still trying to figure things out. They're one of those teams that, you know, we could be looking back once we get to week 12 to finish the season like last year. They kind of do better. But I see nothing here for me to say Carolina can even win this game. I'll go. Cardinals minus seven. [01:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Panthers not look good. Cardinals. I, I think to give them seven. I would imagine that this would have been more like a four and a half, five point spread here. This would be a stay away from me just because I don't know enough from either one. What version of. Of Kyler Murray comes out on this one? Does he perform better than last week? Does he get his receivers involved? Does James get more involved? I know they got a new running back as well to kind of supplement those carries. Do they get that thing running? I do expect the Panthers to show a better showing than last week for some reason. I'm just getting like some weird. From what I've read online, unfortunately. I think this might be a potential upset here. But this is a complete stay away, stay away. Probably your might. I think the Cardinals still win the game. That's what I'm leaning towards. But this is absolute alert on my, on my list. [01:29:20] Speaker B: So you're taking. You're taking the Cardinals or Panthers plus 7 then? [01:29:23] Speaker A: Kind of afraid to do it. [01:29:25] Speaker B: We might as well. [01:29:26] Speaker A: Seven's a lot, dude. [01:29:28] Speaker B: It is a lot. [01:29:29] Speaker A: Seven's a lot. [01:29:31] Speaker B: I mean, I thought it would be more like five too, but Panthers look bad. Even. Even in the delay they didn't look good. [01:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah. How good is the Cardinals defense? [01:29:42] Speaker B: It's solid. [01:29:43] Speaker A: It's up there, huh? [01:29:44] Speaker B: It's middle of the pack. Maybe just make a pick wrong. [01:29:47] Speaker C: We know you're staying away. [01:29:49] Speaker A: I think Panthers cover my gut feeling. All right. Broncos colts pick them 43 and a half. Jason Zamir. [01:29:59] Speaker C: This is an Aaron. [01:30:00] Speaker A: Aaron, go ahead. [01:30:01] Speaker C: I feel this is Aaron has to do this game. This. I don't know who Aaron's gonna choose. This is like child. Which child do you love more? Oh, this is Steichen versus Peyton. [01:30:10] Speaker A: This is the Aaron, dude. This is the Aaron bowl and it's the Aaron. [01:30:15] Speaker B: I like them. Of all things. I like that they can't even throw me a couple points either way. I mean, I flip flop back and forth on this game so many times. [01:30:25] Speaker A: When was the last time Daniel Jones has had two games back to back solid three years. [01:30:30] Speaker B: He's going to do it this Sunday. Rome. I'm taking the Colts. I'm taking the Colts. I. I like this Broncos defense. I think they're going to bring a lot of pressure, but I think Shane Stike is just going to have a few little tricks up his sleeve. Daniel Jones and the Colts find a way to beat the Broncos. I think. I think Nicks in the sophomore slump. Jinx carries over in this game. He did not look good last time. This Colts Defense is aggressive. They can force turnovers. Knicks in the Broncos got gave it 4 last week I think comes back to bite him again. Daniel Jones plays a pretty clean game. Colts win it 26:24. [01:31:09] Speaker A: Wow. Okay. By the way I totally forgot I have Arizona's defense of my fantasy football team. [01:31:15] Speaker C: Then why are you asking us how good they are? [01:31:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I forgot I might have to switch back because I really needed the win. I lost by two and a half points last week. I was pissed off about that. [01:31:25] Speaker B: Well Rome, I mean they could still lose 3020 I mean there's different ways to still put up a great game. [01:31:32] Speaker A: I lost my two and a half points dude. That's why I don't play fantasy football anymore. I'm so pissed. I just feel like throwing the table over the goddamn room. You know that baseball league, if I was in it I'd be so pissed. I'd be pissed. [01:31:46] Speaker B: Rome, I think if you were in that league you would have gotten over being pissed months ago because you would have been at the bottom so you wouldn't have to worry about it. [01:31:52] Speaker A: No cheats. [01:31:53] Speaker C: Aaron did the smart thing. He just moved on to next season where I was like grasping up for hope until two weeks ago and then. [01:32:00] Speaker B: I haven't stressed in that league since like May. I just been relaxing stalking players. [01:32:06] Speaker C: When it started Aaron, Aaron basically was doing a rebuilding year this year in the old fantasy baseball league. He was I don't want to call it tanking but it was close to it. [01:32:15] Speaker A: That's wild. That's. We. We got to do a documentary in your league. Sorry Colts. Jason, go ahead. [01:32:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm going to take Denver didn't. I don't. I think man that was a terrible sentence. Denver didn't look great offensively last year. I was expecting Bo Nicks to be a lot better to start year two. Didn't get I think everything from the running game. I was very surprised in the J.K. dobbins allocation of carries versus who's the rookie they got Aaron, R.J. davis, Harvey Harvey or Harvey Harvey. Yeah, Harvey. So I was a little bit surprised there but just overall the Bonix like taking that step this year. He was seen as the most pro ready of this great draft class. Last year did really well but you know I think, I think we all talked about maybe he's the second best rookie year behind Jaden last year. From that crop of quarterbacks I expect him to step up in this game and I'll take Denver at a close one. [01:33:07] Speaker A: Okay. I got the Colts I just like them. They're. They're at home. If they were in Denver, I would pick Broncos. [01:33:13] Speaker B: Yeah, they were Broncos. Probably by three, three and a half points. [01:33:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Just, just because it's in Indianapolis. I don't know. I, I got enough faith in the Colts to pull this off. I don't think. I, I think the 43 and a half's a little low. I think this should probably be set like 48. I think it's gonna be a shootout. I think both officers are going to come out. I'm kind of struggling whether to put Bo Nix on my fantasy starting lineup or not, but I put Herbert in for now. [01:33:43] Speaker B: Don't put Bo Nixon. [01:33:44] Speaker A: I have a little more trust in him. And Colts, although not, like, the best, even though I get, like, they're not getting the biggest accolades. They're dangerous. They've had a couple of rookies in there from last year returning for their sophomore year. Lights out. Linebackers. The safeties are dangerous at times. They, they, they bend, but they don't break. So I, I got the over, and I got the Colts winning this. Don't know how close I'll be. This might be another stable game for me, to be honest with you, but at least I would have the over on that. [01:34:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Back on this game, Roman. It's interesting because you talk about the Colts. I like the hire by Steichen and bringing in Lou Annorumo. He was the hottest coach a couple years ago. Supposed to get a head coaching gig. [01:34:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:33] Speaker B: One thing he does, he can cause chaos, and he causes turnovers. The Colts did that against two in week one. [01:34:39] Speaker A: I just like their schemes, man. [01:34:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I thought Nick, he was sloppy. I think it carries over in this game, and Daniel Jones and those guys just do enough to win. But I'm happy with either team wins here. I, I, I'm just looking for a great game. I think we're gonna get it. [01:34:53] Speaker A: Eagles. Chiefs. [01:34:54] Speaker C: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Rome, your official pick, but stay away on this. [01:34:57] Speaker B: I think, because he's gone, like, three straight. [01:35:00] Speaker A: It sounds like I, I'm at five. Yeah. Colts, Colts. [01:35:06] Speaker C: All right, so Colts in the final. Stay away. So Rome's staying away from his Miami pick, his Dallas pick, his Niners pick. [01:35:13] Speaker A: His Carolina sports in a ticker here. [01:35:16] Speaker C: I'm just trying to make sure we're holding you honest and trying to say that Aaron's lying to you or whatever baby got you until you looked at the tape and then you weren't as honest. [01:35:25] Speaker A: I'm not. I'M not like changing picks last minute here. Okay. [01:35:30] Speaker B: All right, we're good. [01:35:30] Speaker C: Well, now you got four left. You got to pick. So accountability. Rome. [01:35:34] Speaker A: Stay away from me. I still see. Or stay away. [01:35:36] Speaker C: Nope. [01:35:37] Speaker A: My. My goal is to just have 10 picks every week. One, two, three, four. [01:35:40] Speaker B: I don't even think you're gonna get to that room that the stay away rate you're at. [01:35:44] Speaker A: You're right. Actually, I gotta. Yeah. The ultimate goal was doing. So what I want to do is like 10 picks, all of us, first one to 100 wins at the end of the year. All right, you guys are distracting me. Eagles, Chiefs last afternoon game. Eagles here by one on the road against the Chiefs 47 over. Under. That's kind of tricky. Jason. Go ahead. [01:36:13] Speaker C: I'm a little surprised in how close this spread is. The Chiefs overall, you know, offensively, have just been getting enough for the past maybe year and a half, two years or whatever it might've been. And the Eagles best team in the nfc. It's been for a season and a half now as well. I'm gonna take the Eagles minus one easy, Aaron. [01:36:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:36:36] Speaker B: I mean, the Chiefs, how are they going to generate enough offense? I mean, they didn't even get any offense going in the first three quarters against the Eagles in the Super Bowl. A little bit different personnel in the secondary, but Xavier Worthy's out. Rice is, you know, suspended. Eagles just have too many weapons. I think A.J. brown's going to get involved in this game. And when it looks like the secondary, which was a strength during those super bowl runs for the Chiefs, isn't really anymore. The Chargers and Herbert ate him up last week. I think Jalen Hurts has a big game through the air. I agree with Jason. I like the Eagles minus one. [01:37:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Clean sweep. Honestly, this would be another. Stay away from me if I was a betting man. Just because I'm still kind of afraid of betting against Andy Reid. They are at home finally coming back from Brazil. They looked good in the fourth quarter of that game at least. You know, like the fight back. Like that's what like kind of about all these stats, right? They always like that pad whatever at the end of these games. Eagles, when I was looking back, they lost quite a bit of free agents to other teams. As you win a Super bowl, right? There's like a lot of turnover. I think the Eagles should be really concerned with this game. I think the Chiefs have a chance to win this one and be pretty close at typical. The ref gives some holding penalty against the Eagles to give the. The Chiefs a chance and their kicker to kick a game winning field goal. It makes me a little nervous. I'm gonna go with the Eagles, but I will be watching this game very tentatively. The 47 though, that, that's really tricky. This could either be a shootout or a very ugly game. What do you guys think? [01:38:22] Speaker C: I think it's gonna be an ugly game. [01:38:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I would, I would lean towards under. [01:38:27] Speaker A: Yeah, cool. Nighttime games. We're almost there, guys. Falcons, Vikings. Vikings favor by three and a half over under 45 and a half. Aaron, go ahead. [01:38:36] Speaker B: Interesting line. This line's been going down. It was, I think it was about four and a half five early in the week. I'm going to go with the Falcons. I mean JJ McCarthy did not look good for the first three quarters. He made some nice throws there in the fourth and got that comeback win. But as Jason noted, Caleb was inconsistent making throws. I think Pinnocks does make those throws and the Falcons keep it close. I like the Falcons to cover three and a half and maybe even go in and win outright in Minnesota. [01:39:05] Speaker C: Yep, completely agree with Aaron. You know I can't take talk too much crap because the Vikings did win that game but overall they didn't look impressive. I think McCarthy got, you know, some good throws in there but didn't look good at all throughout the first half of the game. Still a lot of opportunity out there and he's again, he was playing it against a Bears secondary that was missing its two top corners. The Falcons defense is pretty good and offensively the Falcons, I think panic's really finding something. I actually saw him complete packs as the Kyle Pitts this last week, which was, you know, you know me as the big Kyle Pitts truther. He's going to find him eventually and that was good. And then what do we get from Bijan? You mentioned the Flores defense. A little bit worried there for what you can stop up, up front. But I, I think giving the Falcons this many points, I like that for Atlanta. [01:39:51] Speaker A: So you guys got the Falcons winning? [01:39:52] Speaker C: Yes. [01:39:53] Speaker B: Cover for sure cover. [01:39:54] Speaker A: I like the Falcons to cover here for sure cover. Jason, you got them winning or covering or both? [01:40:00] Speaker C: Well, obviously I got them covering. I will say I'm not going to be surprised if they win the game. I think the Vikings because as Aaron talked about the defensive aspect of Flores, he can keep it close enough. But I think there's some playmakers on that Atlanta offense and I don't think, I don't think the trick happens two weeks in a row for Minnesota. I still think they are probably the worst team in the NFC north. But you know. [01:40:23] Speaker B: Yeah, what worries me is we talked about the Flores defense and the blitzes where Caleb Williams was very mobile and able to get outside the pocket and run for those Pinnocks isn't going to be able to get those first downs. So for the keepers for Atlanta, can they hold up? But the run game in the past game at this point in time is just better for Atlanta than it is for the Bears. Just is. So I think that would be the difference here in them covering here. Three and a half feels like. It feels like a three point win either way. [01:40:52] Speaker A: Absolutely right. I, I think the Falcons will show up, but it is at home. Vikings play really well at home. J.J. mcCarthy, man, the Chicago kid, the new savior of it of Minnesota. The leader of Ben showed up national champion Michigan Wolverine. He looked really phenomenal in that fourth quarter. I am buying stock. I am buying stock and I'm all in on J.J. rome. [01:41:22] Speaker B: That's. That's a bigger overreaction than me and Jason burying Detroit. [01:41:26] Speaker A: No. [01:41:28] Speaker B: It'S not even close. [01:41:29] Speaker A: I am buying stock on the Vikings. No way. The Falcons over perform against a talented, a very talented. But by the way, it's the Vikings. We all forgot how talented they are. They still got Flores as their defensive coordinator. They have a hell of a head coach and they have a hell of a game plan and they're going to let Jefferson loose in this one. Not like holding them back until the fourth quarter. This guy's breaking away for 150 yards plus in this game and they're going to win big. This is going over. There's gonna be a shootout. 33 to 37. Vikings barely cover. I got the Vikings. You made a smart Karen. [01:42:16] Speaker B: That's a lot of points. 33, 37 for a total that I'm looking at 44 and a half. [01:42:22] Speaker A: All right, bring it down a little bit. All right. I totally forgot. [01:42:25] Speaker B: Maybe 27, 23. [01:42:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:42:27] Speaker B: I think you're JJ I think you're JJ McCarthy. The guy made, I'll say this, he made three plays in that game. It was enough to get him the victory. You know, Jason sent on them text message threaded a lot of bad calls that kept drives alive that led to Vikings points. [01:42:41] Speaker A: A lot of bad calls. [01:42:42] Speaker B: Oh, it was terrible. [01:42:43] Speaker C: Terrible, man. [01:42:46] Speaker B: Terrible. [01:42:47] Speaker C: That holding, it wasn't even the worst. [01:42:49] Speaker A: Calls I've seen in the NFL. It's like it was. [01:42:51] Speaker B: It was the worst calls I saw in week one. [01:42:53] Speaker C: That was the season. That was the worst holding call I've ever seen. [01:42:59] Speaker B: It's up there. It's up there. [01:43:01] Speaker A: Have you seen a Kansas City Chiefs game? [01:43:03] Speaker B: That's fun. [01:43:04] Speaker C: Yeah, but this is, this is a non penalty, like overall, like the Chiefs. The Chiefs get like penalty. That should be penalties. But no, there's a non penalty and then the pass interference penalty where the, the guy trips. [01:43:16] Speaker B: I'll give you that. [01:43:17] Speaker A: I'll give you that one. [01:43:18] Speaker C: Yes. [01:43:18] Speaker B: And that would, that would have set a fourth down. Instead that led to points by the Vikings because it automatic first down. [01:43:23] Speaker C: Both of those two penalties took points off the board. [01:43:26] Speaker B: Yes. [01:43:27] Speaker C: It's a different, it's a different game. Game changing, terrible penalty calls. [01:43:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:32] Speaker A: All right. I got the Vikings winning though, so who gives a bucks? Texans. Texans favored by two and a half. Over under is 42 and a half. Jason, who do you got anti Vikings fan? [01:43:46] Speaker C: That's right. That's right. Just because, you know, I was in Minnesota and then I got to hear from my friends that live in California that are Vikings fans talking, docking their mess and everything. So. No, it's all right. No. [01:43:57] Speaker B: Tampa Bay, Houston. [01:43:58] Speaker C: Aaron, I don't, I don't, I don't get this spread. I like this Buccaneers team. The Texans, they can't protect the quarterback at all. Like, is this the offensive line that Carr had when they were an expansion team like in 2001? [01:44:13] Speaker B: Whatever. [01:44:13] Speaker C: It was like, I, I don't, I don't get it. They have fallen very quickly from a team that you guys anointed going to the super bowl last year. Give me the bucks with the points. Two and a half. [01:44:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I've, I've gone back and forth with this line. It doesn't make a lot of sense. We watched the Texans, they didn't play good in week one. I only reason why I'm going with the Texans this week is because C.J. stroud, a guy that's pretty quiet, called the team out in the media and said they were lackluster, just, you know, going through the motions, basically challenging them this week. I think they're going to be motivated. They're at home. Their defense can step up. I think it's a low scoring game, but I'll take, I'll take the Texans here. Two and a half. I feel like they're gonna find. Yeah. The COVID Yeah. Tristan Worf. So I don't know if he's gonna play. If he does play, that's big for Tampa, is the blindside tackle there for Baker. But Texas just. I worry about them, but I think they're Gonna. I think they're gonna respond this week after CJ Stroud called them out. [01:45:14] Speaker A: Yeah, this is a tough one. I'd be tempted to pick a stay away on this one as well. I think that would give me seven for the week. But I think the 42 and a half over under, it's really enticing there. I think they barely edge out just because both quarterbacks are pretty elite. [01:45:33] Speaker B: And. [01:45:35] Speaker A: I think at least Baker Mayfield, if he's down late in the game, he's gonna be airing it out and trying to get some points. I don't see the Texans losing their first two games of the year. They're a really talented squad despite all the holes. Bucks, they're a really good team. Mayfield, big fan of his, but they don't always show up to all these games. I got Texans nearly edging this one out as well. Wouldn't be surprised, though, if it goes either way. Rooting for the Bucks. [01:46:07] Speaker B: I. I honestly, I think the Bucks should win this game. But, yeah, like I said, I think the Texans already. When your quarterback calls you out week one for basically saying, hey, like, you guys just. We just went through the motions. We had a shitty week of practice. I think they're gonna have a good week of practice and it's gonna show, if anything. I think a first half bet on the Texans is a good bet, but we'll see how it goes. I. I agree with Jason. I like this Tampa team. I got him going to the Super Bowl. [01:46:33] Speaker A: So, yeah, it's really enticing, though, because, like, two and a half points. Like, I kind of want to pick the Bucks with the points because I think it's me close, but it's just. It's two and a half. It's not enough. [01:46:43] Speaker B: Actually, you could go either way this game. [01:46:45] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a Pick them all right. Last game we have. Wait, I thought there was two Monday night games this week. [01:46:54] Speaker B: That's it. This is the two Monday night games. [01:46:56] Speaker A: Oh, I can't read. All right, two Monday night games. The second Monday night game is Chargers and Raiders. Chargers here by three and a half over under 46 and a half. By the way, we are going by the lines given by Circa Sportsbook. Aaron is involved with a bunch of contests over there for a number of contests. Man, we were there for the whole launch of this year's stuff. And by the way, your guy, your. Your little bookie guy was a guest on someone else's podcast. I've been asking to get him as a guest on this podcast and he's on the sports betting Queens podcast. [01:47:33] Speaker B: She's got, she got. She's got a bigger audience, bigger reach right now. [01:47:36] Speaker A: Rome. She has great content online. I got. I gotta give her that. We don't have any of those assets. I can't wait to bring on the girl for the F1 pod. [01:47:43] Speaker B: You think you're thinking. You're thinking outside the box room like. [01:47:47] Speaker A: I'm thinking outside the box, dude. All right, Chargers, Raiders, Chase and who do you got? [01:47:52] Speaker C: Yeah, just really like this Chargers team when you look at it from a Harbaugh perspective. You know, coaching discipline, tight games. Didn't see a ton from Lad McConkey in week one. I really expect him to have a big step up in year two. I think you're going to see more from him. But I like the Chargers in this one. [01:48:09] Speaker B: Agree. I mean, this is Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, they've got a long history both in college and then NFL. Chargers are the better team here. I don't even know if Brock Bowers is going to play. He's hasn't practiced all week. He's got a knee. [01:48:22] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:48:23] Speaker B: Gino. Gino Smith. They look pretty good. I think he's even over 350 yards against the Patriots. I like this Raiders team. I think they keep it close and competitive, but I think it's a late turnover pick by the Chargers and they'll cover. I'll take the chargers to win 20. [01:48:39] Speaker A: See how the Chargers covering? [01:48:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the Chargers to cover. [01:48:42] Speaker A: Jason, you have the Chargers covering? [01:48:44] Speaker C: I do, yeah. [01:48:45] Speaker A: I'm gonna lean on the Raiders covering the three and a half. I think a half point is. It's where it's at. I think the charges win by three points. I think it's pretty tough. I think Geno, everything that they got going on, they're gonna do enough to. To make it a tight game. I love the Chargers. I got them going deep this year. Very, very deep. I'm a big hardball guy. Even though. Even though he may or may not have cheated in college football. Yeah, I'll go with the Raiders. I'll be my wild pick to cover on that one. Six and a half. That's a tough one. I think that's going to be under. If I was doing a side bet on that one, I might lean on the under on that one. All right, that's it. Any final comments for week two? [01:49:28] Speaker B: Rome. Rome, we talked about it. Everyone's got to give their pick of the week as this three leg parlay for audience. So yeah, who who do you got? Who or who's your lock of the week? [01:49:41] Speaker A: My lock of the week? Jesus. [01:49:44] Speaker B: I mean you had seven stay away games, so it's only. You're down to like 5 games total anyways now. [01:49:52] Speaker A: That is true. This is a tough week. Lock of the week. I would go with the Browns. I mean, I mean the Ravens. I had them winning that one. [01:50:06] Speaker B: Well, this is against the spread, Rome. This against the spread. I think you took the Browns plus 11 and a half if I remember correctly. [01:50:12] Speaker C: He did I. Yep. [01:50:13] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah. I wrote Ravens win, but I didn't. Right. Yeah. [01:50:17] Speaker B: This is, this is, this is a spread. [01:50:20] Speaker A: Oh, so like this lock of the weeks for the spread. [01:50:22] Speaker B: Yes. Not. Not a, not a double digit minus 800 money line play. [01:50:28] Speaker A: I don't do those plays. I know you guys are talking about that like all the time. That's why I don't do those big plays. It doesn't make sense to bet on those things. [01:50:34] Speaker B: Yeah, you only put those in parlays. Like five, six game parlay. [01:50:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:50:38] Speaker B: And even though. [01:50:40] Speaker A: Yeah. You guys kept on mentioning. I was like, dude, I've never even talked about that stuff. Is that, is that Corona era? I. I don't have a lock of. [01:50:46] Speaker B: The week this week. [01:50:48] Speaker A: There's no locks, dude. There's no locks. These are all. When you look down away at week two is a pick them week. Every game is a pick them. There's no locks this week. I would not, I would stay away for this whole week. [01:51:00] Speaker B: I. [01:51:00] Speaker A: To be honest with you. Just stay away from it. This is a pickup. [01:51:05] Speaker C: Sage, sage betting advice. [01:51:07] Speaker B: Just don't gambler this week. [01:51:12] Speaker A: Not this week. These games are too risky, man. I'm like looking at all those things like how many stay aways. [01:51:18] Speaker B: I'm like, you don't even have an over under. You like Rome. I mean, I guess you should say over 44 and a half since you had that game going. The 70, your initial total on it. 37, 33. [01:51:27] Speaker A: Dude, there's like a handful over unders. Like. [01:51:30] Speaker B: Well, you can give whatever one you want. This doesn't count against her. [01:51:33] Speaker A: So like Patriots, Dolphins. I would definitely bet on that. Under. [01:51:36] Speaker B: All right, so that's your lock of the week. Is that your lock of the week? [01:51:40] Speaker A: Jaguars, Bengals. That is going over guaranteed. Bengals are going to show out. At least they're going to get 35 points. All right, Jaguars should smuggle. If, if, if, if your guy is anything that you guys have said, he was outside of a dog. Piece of dog. He should score at least 21 points. That's gonna go over. I think I said over on the Bills game, right? Bills, Jets. Okay. [01:52:05] Speaker B: All right. So I guess Rome's log. That's my three pack. I got the. I just need one game over. One game. Just one. What's your best one? Is it, I guess. Bengals, Jaguars over 49. [01:52:17] Speaker A: I don't really trust him on that one. I'll do. Bills over 46 and a half. [01:52:21] Speaker B: Okay. [01:52:21] Speaker A: That's my guaranteed lock of the week. [01:52:23] Speaker B: All right. What do you got, Jason? [01:52:25] Speaker A: God damn. [01:52:27] Speaker C: It's gonna be my lock of the week. But it also be by homer. Pick of the week. Bears plus five and a half. [01:52:33] Speaker B: Okay, I will go with. I'll go. Steelers minus three. So that's the. That's a three leg parlay. Steelers minus three. Bears plus five and a half. Jets, bills over 46 and a half. For the audience. [01:52:48] Speaker A: Wow, I like that. Should we put on the socials? [01:52:51] Speaker B: Yeah, why not? Sources from the sofa. Three leg parlay of the week. [01:52:55] Speaker A: Why not? [01:52:57] Speaker B: We'll have one every week for you. If we could get Rome to actually give a pick and not a stay away. [01:53:02] Speaker C: I like how it started. We try to get him to pick every game. He's like, no, no, no, no. Like, I just need five stay aways because it's. Stay away. But we said a lock of the week. It's like, just don't gamble. It's really. I don't know why you listen to the last hour of content. Just. Just keep your money at home. Put it in a savings account, you know, something, maybe a cd, some bond. [01:53:23] Speaker A: This is a tough week too, man. This is the toughest week I've seen in a long time. [01:53:26] Speaker B: Basically, our NFL segment is built on gambling and lines, and yet our gambling host says do not even get. Don't even. [01:53:34] Speaker A: Yeah, this whole week's a stay away. All right, that'll do it. We'll post. I don't know what we're posting actually for this. I think it's just going on YouTube and we'll find some. [01:53:44] Speaker B: You handle all the posts. Me, Jason. Just show up and look good. That's it. That's. That's the contract as it is. [01:53:51] Speaker A: It's not a contract. It'll be. We should talk about that. [01:53:54] Speaker B: You know, don't be. Don't be pulling a Palmer on me now and trying to circumvent this thing any different than what it is. [01:53:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. All right, That'll do it. That's our week. Two picks for NFL. It should be pretty Exciting. We will recap Sunday or Monday night I assume here on sources in the sofa. Be on the lookout. We will have college picks as well coming out on YouTube and on the socials and Aaron's games a week. Be on the lookout for that. [01:54:25] Speaker B: Quickly. Ron, before we go, I know we talked about it off the air. Who do you got? Who do you got tomorrow night? You got Canelo. You got Crawford. Who do you got? [01:54:33] Speaker A: I got Canelo. [01:54:34] Speaker B: Who do you got? Jason Crawford. I'm going Crawford too. [01:54:38] Speaker A: Nice. By the way, I do have a updated power rankings I. I forgot to post up. [01:54:43] Speaker B: That's gonna go save those for after week two. Rome. I'll be curious. [01:54:46] Speaker A: Well, there was some change. Not so much at the top of the order. Eagles, Bills and Ravens stayed 1, 2 and 3. I didn't see any reason to change much after that. But after that though I did move the packers up to number four. They were previously ranked six. At five was the Chiefs. They dropped down to seven. Now we have the commanders. This was before the Monday night game or the Thursday night game. I did have them at 5. The commanders 6. I had the Chargers followed by Chiefs. Then Lions. Dropped from number four to number eight. I have no reason to drop them out of the top eight yet. That's all to be determined. I'm giving them a lot of respect. Despite the weak one showing. I thought more draw. Dropping a team more than four. It's pretty tough for me. I think that's a lot the top eight. [01:55:37] Speaker B: I'm not a big fan of that top eight. Rome just gonna say it. [01:55:40] Speaker A: Who would you put in it? [01:55:42] Speaker B: Well, I get the Lions out of there. I get the Chiefs out of there. You can't have Owen one teams in there over some one and O teams. [01:55:49] Speaker A: Just week one. [01:55:50] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. We're not. It's week one. [01:55:53] Speaker A: Who I, who, who am I supposed to put over the Chargers or the Chiefs in? [01:55:58] Speaker B: I would put Tampa Bay. [01:56:00] Speaker A: Not yet. It wasn't good enough. [01:56:02] Speaker B: Win divisional win at Atlanta. That's a tough win. I'd hit the Steelers definitely for Detroit. And I think you have to have the Rams over Detroit too. That's. That's a no brainer for me. [01:56:11] Speaker A: Not yet. [01:56:12] Speaker B: And if all goes right you'll have to have the Bears for sure over them after this weekend. [01:56:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Not Detroit has to win this week. 100. [01:56:21] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:56:22] Speaker A: We started. [01:56:23] Speaker C: We're gonna pick the steakhouse. Rome's gonna be taking you to Aaron. [01:56:27] Speaker A: At some point here. [01:56:29] Speaker C: That's at. [01:56:30] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good idea. I mean, I. I can. I can hear it sizzling right now in the background. [01:56:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:56:36] Speaker B: Drinks being poured. It always tastes better when someone else buys. I don't know why that is that Beth, though. [01:56:43] Speaker A: Aaron, I want to go to Miller and Lux with my friend Chef Tyler. Florence manning the stake above Chase center and Draymond Greens on our right side. Other Golden State warriors on the left side. I'm just bragging how I won the bet, how Detroit Lions are still a team to beat. That's how it's going to be. [01:57:02] Speaker C: Are you going to do that when you lose and then take Aaron there and it's the same thing? [01:57:06] Speaker B: It all sounds pretty good. [01:57:09] Speaker A: Fire ass up here, man. I'll take that primary place. [01:57:13] Speaker B: Yeah. You still owe me prime rib. That's. You still owe me that for another bet. I already won house at prime rib. [01:57:18] Speaker A: What bet? [01:57:19] Speaker B: That's how long ago it was. I don't remember. But you owe me, all right? And he knows it. That's why. That's why it's still on his mind that prime rib plays. [01:57:27] Speaker A: You remind me at least, like, once a month. Source from the sofa. Week two in the books. Catch us next week for recap. And week three lines. Just don't go anywhere.