Piastri Crashes Out & Verstappen Wins Azerbaijan GP, Lions Hunt Down Lamar's Ravens, Browns Send Green Bay Packing

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:03] Speaker B: Welcome back to the pod everybody. This is Rome. We have a full episode for you today. First we recap F1 forever. Sappin takes number one spot again. Now that's back to back wins in his last two races as well as gaining a second place finish in the race prior. So lots of chatter about him gaining steam in the driver's championship. Can he compete with the McLaren boys and make it interesting for the final races down the stretch? We will see but we break it down for you. As well as some rumors in and around Formula one, we also recap the NFL Week three. It was a wild, wild weekend. We update you on our against the Spread competition which is hilarious. We also give a new winner to Ask Beating of the week. It's something that we started last week and we continue it this week. Jason's Bears took the honors and the inaugural awards so we'll see who wins it this week. Close games, tough losses, crazy block field goals. It was definitely a fun week. But we are ready to move on to week four and then a few announcements. Be sure to check us out on YouTube. We have the full F1 clips on YouTube as well as the Lions. We'll be releasing weekly college football games of the week as well as the NFL lines towards the end of the week so you can gear up educated and make your bets. Make your picks either on your favorite site or with your friends, family, whatever. We are hitting up on some big numbers here so be sure to follow us. Also be sure to rate us on Spotify or Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to our podcast. Go to YouTube, subscribe, give us a follow. Share some love man. We need a little bit of love here. It would be greatly appreciated but without further ado, let's get into it. Yo, this source from the sofa. We're going to talk a little F1 recap this past Sunday's race. A little bit of drama start out with the crash. A lot of cars stuck in the middle. They couldn't pass anybody. It was just like no opportunities to do so. You got some comments at the end of the race. Verstappen. Now people are talking about how he can make a move to try to catch up and possibly steal his driver's championship away from Piastri. I don't know how much you believe that, but there's lots of lots of ammunition behind that. Jason, did you watch the race live since you had like a two hour advantage over us? [00:02:32] Speaker C: I did. You know when you're in central time zone, it's only 6:00am so you know. [00:02:36] Speaker B: A little bit of a, that's not too bad. [00:02:38] Speaker C: A little bit of reprieve. So it was a good week to be back east and get the 6am start time still, even when I'm not in, in Pacific time zone. So yeah, flu rough 4am for you guys. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Wasn't up at 4am Put the old record on and jumped on about 5:30. Started it and didn't check the messages because, you know, didn't want to get any stuff from Jason. So that's why I kind of commented late. But boom, you know, right off the bat kind of like my picks this week went right into the wall. Lap one and I just knew it was going to be a bad Sunday. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Right off the bat. I did cast a race live. I, I jumped in like at lap 15. My knee, I don't know if you guys know, is pretty jacked up. [00:03:20] Speaker A: What time do you go to bed, Rome? Because I mean there's some days like on Sunday you text us, you're in bed at 11 and then you text me and Jason like hey, I just got home at 6am been an all nighter. Like what time do you go to bed? [00:03:31] Speaker C: With it being 4am I 100 say I watched it live because I was still up from Saturday night. I just went into watching the race. [00:03:37] Speaker B: Oh really? From the wedding? [00:03:40] Speaker C: No, I'm saying that's what I thought you were gonna say. I wasn't. I was, I was. [00:03:46] Speaker B: Sunday night, you know, I had to, gotta drive back down to LA to get her in time for picture day. So that's why we just, you know, hit the snooze at 9 o'. Clock. I had to wake up at 2:45. We had an earthquake. I was on the toilet. I thought it was a Little Caesar's messing me up, but it was actually a real 4.0 earthquake that, you know, shocked the Bay Area. But yeah, I was up my knees jacked it. The, the pain shooting up my side of my hip and I was like, screw it, might as well just watch a little F1. But caught it from, I think it was lap 12 or something like that. [00:04:15] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean the, the drama definitely was on Sunday with the Piastri crest to open. But I mean we, the drama was even before that during qualifying for, you know, where these guys were even starting because of the several crashes that happened during the qualifying which, you know, led to Piastri and Norris and you know, some of these other guys lower in the field. And then there was weather during that. And so you had you had an interesting starting grid with like, you know, Carlos Sainz, you know, being, you know, second in qualifying and you know, a couple other cars. Liam Lawson, you know, was up there at the top of the grid out of qualifying. So it was an interesting starting point. Especially we were used to such a season with both McLarens being the top of the grid. Just from the, from qualifying going forward, it's a one, two kind of punch where neither of these guys were near the front the entire weekend and you know, just seemed to be just real problems overall with, with the car. You might have found kind of the tracks that McLaren just isn't as dominant where, you know, and this may have been a little more known like on the high speed turn tracks, that's where McLaren has cleaned up. But when you have, you know, these big, you know, long straightaways that, you know, Red Bull can cut the wing down a little bit. This is where Verstappen and, and the Red Bull car has kind of thrived. When you looked at, you know the, the race in Italy and, and this race this last weekend, which is kind of the massive, you know, big stretch from the final turn all the way to turn one that happens in, in Azerbaijan. So it was overall it looked like 20, 23 with Verstappen where started on the pole, dominated it. You never saw his car once in the broadcast until really the race. Until the race. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:06:05] Speaker C: Until the race ended. [00:06:06] Speaker A: I think his radio team was just like, hey, you got good pace, keep it up. Like every like 20 laps he would just be like hey, you're doing a great job. Just keep going, you're doing great. Like that was it. [00:06:16] Speaker C: And it's, and it's not an easy track. I mean I wish we had Andrew on the pod. You talk about racing this track on, on the F1 video game on PlayStation, dude. It's a hard, it's a hard track with the amount of like high speed corners through the city. You go to the castle section where it's like it's a narrow like one lane left, right, like, like that like basically bends that's got room for one car only and you got to be able to maintain speed kind of going uphill doing that. And so when you look at the, the crashes throughout the weekend, like it's a small margin from error from a very tight track and the, in the overall ways to pass given the long stretch, I said down to turn one when you, when you're coming into that even wasn't even making it to winning Drs have the ability to pass on this track. So I mean that's where you looked at Lando after Piastri goes out. I'm like, okay, this is the race, this is what Lando needs to like take back the points. Like how many can he get? Can he get into top three and get like a 15 points on him? Can he get to fourth or something like that. And when he only gets up to seventh position, only gets six points on Piastri. Like it was best case scenario for Oscar where he had the early, the early exit, but he really didn't lose like a whole, you know, a whole race. Yeah. Compared to when you know Lando's motor blue, you know Oscar got the win and it was a 25 point swing of what happened. This one Oscar's out. It's only a six point swing. You didn't get everything you needed. The question mark going into and I'll be honest, right, I didn't look at the news. Does Oscar have a penalty to serve in the next race in Singapore? Because he never served the penalty for his false start at the start of the race in Baku, that's for sure. Yeah. And so you expect a grid place penalty for him in Singapore. Is it severe enough where Orlando can have a couple point swing in the finishing spot? But ultimately I think It's a disappointment. McLaren botched another Lando pit stop that basically cost him probably fifth to seventh. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Because that's when Sonoda and Lawson I think passed him up and what they added like what an extra four seconds and he, he was stuck behind those two cars. It was like a four car jam for like what like the last 10 laps and there was just no opportunity to pass. I think one time he had a chance to pass his car just could not pick up speed and like that was it. [00:08:42] Speaker C: Yeah, had the one run and so yeah, it was a four point swing basically where it was at that McLaren took him away, that took it away from, from Lando and so it's been unfortunate but he really, he really needed more out of that and Verstappen making competitive. I think that's the storyline out of it. When you look at where Singapore, I don't think the Red Bull would be very strong. You've seen that Red Bull car struggle there before. Even in the dominant 2023. Singapore was the only race that year that Red Bull didn't win. That was the Carlos signs win where Red Bull won 22 out of 23 races. That year in Singapore was the lone one. But it's A. It's a difficult track, man. It's going to be like 130 degrees or something, you know, while they're racing at night out there in Singapore. And so it's an endurance test for drivers, but I don't think has the long speeds that the Red Bull car would be good. You may look at tracks like Vegas. That's going to be a big, like, Max night or, you know, other ones I'm trying to think of for the remaining maybe potentially Mexico. That's got like a, you know, a couple big long stretches in there. The Red Bull car can be great, but I don't know, you know, there's just. [00:09:50] Speaker B: We. [00:09:51] Speaker C: We were talking. It's going to be impossible for Lando to overtake Oscar. I think it's even a longer shot for Max to overtake both of them. Um, now, is Lando in. In the shot for Max to get second? Maybe, but for Max, that's a. Who cares? I don't care about finishing second in the Drivers Championship. I think we're still talking about the two Red Bull, the two McLaren drivers for one, two. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Signs picking up third in this race. I guess that was the first one for Williams. [00:10:21] Speaker C: First one this year. First one in a very long time. You know, Williams is like, you know, one of the legacy F1 teams. You know, we get like a world champions. You know, they were big in the. Big in the 80s and 90s for what Williams were, but, you know, haven't been relevant much in the past 20 years. But yeah, huge for them. When you look at what this team has been doing under James Vowles, who, you know, had tons of success in the different engineering departments at Mercedes, goes to Williams as team principal. Williams is bought by, you know, American venture capitalist type thing. And a ton of money's put into this program and they've gotten. They've got nothing but better. And this podium kind of almost. Almost locks them into the fifth seed, which they were, you know, the halfway point. We were talking in that season, second half preview. We're like, you know, is somebody going to catch up to them? They weren't as dominant, but now, you know, they're probably much locked in at that. Fifth, fifth place. [00:11:20] Speaker A: Yeah, 20, 29 point lead right now, which. [00:11:24] Speaker C: Which is significant when you're talking about. And these are two cars still battling and, you know, it's been. It's been weird who gets points in the top 10 with, you know, only one Red Bull kind of guarantee. Both McLarens to a degree, both Mercedes. But there's been there's been a lot of points available, like 8, 9, 10, a lot every week. And so when you get some shuffles in this where some, you know, rain happens or different things in qualifying, they give you some different orders. And now just in the last year of regulation, making it very difficult to pass. Hey, Signs is able to qualify second and pretty much hold off everybody except George Russell to get the podium. Same thing for Liam Lawson in that race too. You know, he qualified up, I think third, held off pretty much for the most part, the challengers behind them. Yeah, for him, you know, it was a great result for him. We're now, you know the questions. In the Red Bull senior team and junior team they got Lynn Blad who's kind of like, I don't know, your next prodigy driver coming out of the Red Bull farm system that probably would be the next driver next year. So whether it's Sonoda, Lawson or Hajar, someone's potentially losing their seat. A lot of people that Hajar has done a great job this year and it was between Lawson and Sonoda and Lawson maybe being the odd man out, but I think he's done enough here potentially. [00:12:45] Speaker A: Sonoda looks like he's on his way out. He has, he hasn't shown me anything here in the last couple months. [00:12:50] Speaker C: I'd agree with you. I think what, I think what they're saying is because with Laurent Mekis taking over as team principal and he him working with Sonoda at the Racing Bulls previously, you know, is he giving him the better setup to get a better fair assessment? But I, I don't disagree with you, Aaron. I think the likely scenario is you see Hajar, you know, replace him at the Red Bull senior team and you'll have lost and stay on the Racing Bulls team with Lynn Blad next year. [00:13:16] Speaker A: I'd agree with that. [00:13:17] Speaker B: I thought they announced that Verstappen was definitely getting a new teammate for next year, but I guess somebody else, they. [00:13:26] Speaker C: They just announced that Verstappen was going to be back himself last year, but they haven't said anything as far as like what the driver lineup was going to be. I think. Yeah, not all the teams have secure driver lineups for the most part. Like even Mercedes, I'm pretty sure is non. They haven't even signed George Russell to an extension yet. I've been non committal on, on Kimi Antonelli's under contract with Mercedes. Whether he's going to keep the seat next year or they want to do something more aggressive in the first year of the new Regulation that Mercedes is supposed to have, you know, the upper hand in, in, in the early rounds of this new reg set in 2026. So there's, there's still some driver shuffling, I think, going on behind the scenes of what's going to happen. I'd expect a lot of it to say the same on Mercedes, but I think the Red Bull stop spot will be very interesting. [00:14:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that, Jason. I, I don't see George Russell leaving Mercedes. I mean, he just got second here on this podium. It's, he's been good. I, I, you know, there's been, I think it was a couple weeks ago there was mentions that a deal was done. Just finalizing some, you know, couple things here and there. So I would expect him to be there. Kimmy Atonelli, that's, that's another story. Whether or not they want to do with him. He would he get fourth at this race? I believe so. He, they had a good race this week in Mercedes so, yeah, it was a good race for them. So we'll see what happens. But yeah, I don't, I don't see Russell leaving there. [00:14:49] Speaker C: I, I agree with you, Aaron. I, I, I think Toto Wolf just has this thing that he really wants verstappen. And so I think this entire, this entire contract negotiation probably is going to be like, I'm not getting verstappen next year, but I want George next year. But if versappen comes up in 2027, what's my escape clause or what's my flexibility to get out of the Russell contract and sign Verstappen? I think that this literally probably the only thing holding it up given how much total Wolf's been public about how much he wanted Verstappen back when he was a junior and then kind of the, I guess the flirting they did during the break and go into like. [00:15:30] Speaker A: You said they were in Italy, right? You said they met up in Italy. [00:15:33] Speaker C: Yeah, it was like it was, it was an island off of Italy or something like that. And so I think that buzz is gonna be there. And So I, I F1 contracts sometimes to me feel like NFL contracts where they're just like they're, they're kind of made to be broken type thing. You're just gonna get fired at any point. [00:15:51] Speaker B: But a bunch of out causes. [00:15:52] Speaker C: Right. And so I'm guessing that's the finalized person where you're George Russell, man, you're like, hey, like I've been holding it down for this team right now. I'M having a really good year for a car that's not great. I mean, it's only great when cold. The weather, it's cold out. It's basically the buzz on that. So George has basically done what he's can. And he went toe to toe with. With Lewis Hamilton and wasn't in what was Mercedes. Probably worst car in over a decade during, during that run. So. Yeah. [00:16:22] Speaker A: And. [00:16:22] Speaker C: And for the most part, like, are you gonna get rid of George for what next year if you don't sign him? Like, I think George would be a pretty hot commodity on the market that, you know, there'll be some teams interested in him that, you know, do have some money freeing up that can, you know, be signing him too. I don't know, maybe there's not a spot in 2026, but as. As contracts come through and you see where teams are at, you know, Disaston Martin does Red Bull does like some of these other people. Like, George is. George is like appreciated by his peers in a lot of. A lot of areas where he's this guy that just hasn't had the car, but if he has the dominant car, yeah, he's gonna win. [00:16:56] Speaker A: George Russell's good, man. And I think we talked about this before, guys, that, you know, I could see if Verstappen. Russell kind of just swap, you know, like a trade, you know, so these two. I mean, Verstappen seems pretty happy at Red Bull now that, you know, Horner's gone. He's won a couple races, he seems happy. Not really hearing any chatter about him maybe looking for an exit. He said he planned all along to return in 26. I mean, what would it take, Jason, for Verstappen not to want to come back, say, in 27, would it have to be not being able to compete for another, you know, driver's championship? Would that be something that would basically say, hey, it's time for me to move on. We're not competitive enough to win RC at Red Bull for, you know, the quite a long while. I don't know what his contract is. A 20, 28, 2030, whatever it is, is he gonna stay there for that whole thing or is he just gonna be like, hey, look, I gave you guys another chance. Warner's gone, we're still not competitive enough, so I'm gonna jump ship and go to Mercedes or whoever signs them. [00:17:55] Speaker C: The long running rumor has just been like, what does this 2026 car look like? Because if he can truly opt out at the end of 26 and he's able to get a good look on what all 10 teams have been able to do. And the new reg, you know, sets what engine is out there. You know, Red Bull's doing a new engine program with Ford and so he does no longer has the Honda engine next year. What's this engine going to look like? He know, what's the design kind of look like that doesn't have, you know, kind of the history of there. So there I think there's a ton of unknowns with the Red Bull car next year where, like, if this thing's come out as crap, hey, I'm out of here. Does Mercedes have the car? Aston Martin, I brought this up before where he's got Adrian Newey who designed the Red Bull car for, you know, the, the Vettel anverstappen runs at Red Bull. He's over at Aston Martin designing this car now. And now Aston Martin has the Honda engines starting next year too. Is that an enticing thing where, you know, there. So I, I think, Aaron, to answer your question, what does the 2026 car look like? I think there's a lot of contracts that go through 26 where depending where the constructors are at, we'll make informed decisions of the drivers of where they want the job. I think Ferrari is another one because it's a prove it year for my guy, Lewis Hamilton next year because I think his contract only goes through 2026. And so a lot of people are talking like, is he worth kind of what is that? Because we haven't seen the production from Lewis. You know, are they. If the Ferrari is great and Lewis is great, great. He's on the pace for an eighth world championship. If he ain't feeling the Ferrari next year, what's it going to be in 2020? [00:19:34] Speaker A: Does he retire if he has another season like this? [00:19:38] Speaker C: Potentially, I don't know, you know, what's going to be his options. He kind of went to. This is the dream ride. Fernando Alonso has talked about, like potentially retiring too, you know, because he, you know, he's in his 40s, so there's a lot of. There's a lot of buzz. And I think 26 is the prove it year. From the constructor to the driver market, I'm like, you know, what. What car do I want to be in? I what there's. There's a ant and Senna document or it was in a documentary. It's like miniseries they did on Netflix that came out last year. I'll say not the easiest watch because the whole Thing's in, like, three or four different languages, but I think it was well put together. And there was a kind of a quote in that when Senna left McLaren and went to Williams because Williams had the better car. And like Ron Dennis used to run, McLaren was basically like, you know, the fastest driver always wants the fastest car. And so I think that's where you're going to start getting the evaluation of the drivers next year in that market. Like, hey, what. What manufacturer's putting this car out that is going to compete for a world championship? And is that Red Bull for Verstappen? I don't know. [00:20:44] Speaker B: To circle back to the Constructors Championship, he was mentioning, like, Williams now, like, set, like, in five, anything could change from two to four. It's like, separated by, like, if anyone has, like, a good race, I know Ferrari's been pretty consistent just getting, like, 4 to 8. But Red Bull Racing, if Verstappen picks up another victory too, are they sitting like number two in the Constructors Mercedes? Who knows? What Russell does throughout the year. [00:21:15] Speaker A: There. [00:21:15] Speaker B: Could still be a lot, a lot of change in basically Rome. [00:21:20] Speaker A: Those standings look like our baseball league standings. Like, anywhere from two to four could just change, but everything else is pretty much set in stone. [00:21:27] Speaker B: I think racy bulls can still catch it with Williams for fifth. It's just like, you know, a couple races that are good. [00:21:34] Speaker C: What would change the tide? When you had last year, you had Alpine with Esteban o' Connor and Pierre Gasly, like, get a podium, two podiums for Alpine in Brazil because of, like, a wild strategy during the rain race in Brazil, A thing like that where like, all of a sudden, like, Alpine was dead last all year, but then they get, what is it, like, 32 points in one race because they put two drivers in the podium. Like, those would be one of the swings you'd look for, like, in. And it'd be one of these, like. Like, it'd be like Brazil or Mexico that have, like, just some insane weather conditions down the stretch that I think that that's where you'd be looking at where, like a racing bulls, like, jumps Williams or like. Or even somebody like Haas, like, jumps up to seventh or something because they put two guys in, like, subsid, you know, significant position on, like, maybe a podium or something else. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Well, because I'm. I'm also looking at the drivers too, like racing bulls. Lawson and Hajar not too far away. 39, 30 points, respectively. Been pretty consistent throughout the year, or maybe not consistent, but at least lost him when he's done well, he's, he's done well. And then you look at Williams, it's Albon carrying most of the weight, 70 points and science finally came through where he got a majority of his points here and he's there at 31. One win or like one podium can change a lot of things. I didn't realize like how, how impactful a podium can be for a team and for a driver. Really. [00:22:58] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean when the point system is what it is where it's only, you know, your top 10, it doesn't matter when you're finished 11 through, you know, 20th, I mean there was poor Ali Bearman over there that finished like 11th, like four races in a row, got no points but like he's basically the same as his 20th. Yeah, I mean so it's a, it's a, it's a different point situation. I think there's a lot of talk of like later on to the new points all the way down to like 15th place or something like that where it, you know it puts more into like quality, different finishes in some of these lower tier stuff and, and it kind of shakes up what the, what the constructors could be because even now, now more points are allocated. When you look at some of the like it used to be like, like top five were the only people that got points like really in the day. Yeah. So if you, you look like the 1970s championship, like guys like missed like four or five races and like it didn't matter because like it's the same as finishing like six. [00:23:49] Speaker B: So crazy. [00:23:51] Speaker C: But yeah, I think there'll probably be some surprises I think down the stretch. Like I said, there's gonna be some rain races. Vegas could be interesting because as everyone was talking about Mercedes is good in the cold, you know, so does that change some things? But it was a big going back to the science point, huge win for him because there was a contingent among many was signs the right driver to get displaced at Ferrari for Lewis Hamilton and then for, because of Hamilton struggles this year it's like oh we, we got rid of signs and Hamilton hasn't done anything. Even though Hamilton's six in the driver's championship right now. But like he hasn't delivered obviously what you're expecting a seven time world champion to do. But Signs at the same time has gotten beat by Albon the entire year up until this race where you haven't seen you know, hey this guy was in Ferrari these past couple years and have won some races and had all these great finishes but when he's in a Williams car and he's not beating his peer any significantly lower than him in the standings, there was questions about signs. So I think it was a big win. You know, not win, but big podium for him because it proved, like, what he can do with this car, where this Williams car is at. And so I, I expect you could potentially get more of these, like, bottom top 10 finishes out of signs. And Albon throughout the year is like, kind of we reach like the ending point of this season, but you get a. You get a very big mix of tracks as you go to, you know, you finish in Singapore and you start doing all these North American tracks down, like, during the stretch, it's. It'll be interesting. There's a lot of. I think there's a lot of good McLaren track set up, but then I think there's some stuff with the Mercedes and Red Bulls will be pretty good too. [00:25:33] Speaker B: Yeah, we got Signapore next in a. In a couple weeks. Is that two weeks from now? [00:25:39] Speaker C: Yeah. October 3rd and through the 5th. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Nice 5am race. Then after that is the Circuit of Americas. [00:25:49] Speaker C: That's in Texas, man. [00:25:50] Speaker B: That's in Austin. Oh, that's what. That's what Andrew was telling about. He's. He's trying to make it out to that one. [00:25:57] Speaker C: That's a big one. Definitely when I want to get to one day. Won't be able to do it this year, but I think that's. That's. That is seen out of the three American tracks, that is the, like, race to kind of go to. That's. It's. It's a circuit track, not a street track like Miami and Vegas. And there's just some. There's some good racing that goes on at that. At that track. So that. I think that's a good race that I would recommend going to. But yeah, you go. You go to. You go there. You go to Brazil and Mexico, back up to Vegas. You know, a good stretch in, you know, four straight North American races or North America, I should say. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Before they head back to the Middle East. [00:26:36] Speaker C: Yep. [00:26:36] Speaker B: Qatar and Abu Dhabi. Awesome, man. We'll try to get Andrew on the next one on the pod either before or after. We'll see what happens. [00:26:49] Speaker A: But it seems like he's brushing up on his Spanish for that Mexico City race. It sounds like Rome. [00:26:54] Speaker B: Sounds like he's doing something. Yeah. Maybe he's dying his hair again. [00:27:00] Speaker C: Maybe we tell him instead of Circuit of the Americas, he heads down to Mexico City. I mean, that's. It's A big race. [00:27:04] Speaker B: You know, dude, I'm. I love Mexico City. It's like, one of my favorite cities in the world. It's absolutely beautiful. Reminds me of Europe. It's kind of like San Francisco, but in Mexico, just jungley. Good food, good restaurants, beautiful women, great alcohol, great bars. It's good vibes. Very dangerous, though. Very fucking dangerous. You have to be very careful. You end up in the city, but it's a great city. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Well, I haven't been there, but I'll say just on overall tv and just what you know about the. The track out there. I think it's one of the. The better F1 tracks. Got some cool, cool views when you go throughout that track, where there's a stadium section of the track as it goes to before the final turn. Big, long straightaway, some. Some interesting racing that can go on that, you know, sets up for a lot of good overtakes. [00:27:55] Speaker B: You know what? That'll be a good one to plan for next year because I have so many connections in Mexico City. We can eat at some of the best Michelin restaurants and get hooked up fat. In Mexico City. It'd be no shortage of partying, and that'd be pretty fun. That'd be fun race. Think about it, guys starting out well. [00:28:13] Speaker C: I mean, the food, I'm sure, is great, but, you know, we're getting a little older here. Rome, you know, I start considering, like, you know, Pepto Bismol, Tums, you know, different antacids and different things you got to take. So, you know, just. [00:28:24] Speaker B: Oh, the restaurants will give it to you, too, man. [00:28:25] Speaker C: They know that's the dangerous part about traveling. Overall. It doesn't matter if it's in Mexico or just anywhere here in the United States, you know, you don't bounce back like you used to. [00:28:37] Speaker B: That's 100, man. [00:28:39] Speaker C: You're just. You're just talking about the Little Caesars. You're giving up earthquakes up there in San Francisco because of a Little Caesars? I don't know. I don't know if you should be going down, you know, in Mexico. [00:28:49] Speaker B: Here's one thing about Little Caesars, man. I. I've said how much I love that pizza. It's really good. I think it's one of the best pizzas out there, especially the. The price bracket it's in. Every time I order delivery, which has only been three times now. It's been not as good as if I drive up, I hand cold, hard cash for the hot and ready for five bucks or whatever it is. Add the crazy Bread extra crazy. [00:29:16] Speaker C: I mean, the hot and ready is the staple, but the crazy bread. What's wrong doing over here? You know, he's just talking about Pizza Hut and then disappears off the mic. A Little Caesar. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Sorry, he's got, he's got, he's got Little Caesars over there he's playing with or something. I don't know. [00:29:35] Speaker B: I was gonna bring out some Little Caesars and have like a little victory. Like you guys said that the Detroit Lions were going to be last place, that they were done. Now look at them. Back to back blowout, dominating victories. Oh, you guys definitely said last place. All right, they'll do it. F1 in the books. Welcome back to Sources from the Sofa. We got the full crew tonight, Jason and Aaron. We're recording Tuesday night a little later than we, than when we usually record. Typically it's been like Sunday for, you know, for this year, but pretty eventful. Week three in the books and it, it ended on a big bang. Monday night was fun, dude. It was fun mainly because I had the Lions winning, had them covering and it was really great. Sunday night was God awful. It was unbearable to watch. Chiefs and Giants. It was like the first half was just really rough and then there was just like a whole bunch of upsets and weird things that just happened. Seemed like everyone that was gambling this week just took like a lot of big L's on like every platform, every radio show, podcast. So on the bright side though, we've been pretty consistent guys. We've been batting like basically.500 the whole way every week, no matter what, whether it's a good week or a bad week. This was, this week was a bad weekend. We kind of just had the same results against the spread. We'll update it week three. I think it's out on the socials. I had my first winning week at 8 and 7. And so that brings me tied with Jason now for the year at 21 and 24. Me and you, Jason. We had the tiebreaker for the Lions Ravens game yesterday and Aaron was six, nine. I was six and nine the first week. You were in six and nine last week, Jason. And now it's Aaron's Turn to be 6 and 9. Maybe we can end the 6 and 9 curse. But tight, tight contest for, for, against the spread. Pretty fun. [00:31:45] Speaker C: Well, that's what happens when we pick every game. You know, Rome, we made a commitment this year. We weren't going to have any stay away games. We're gonna, you're gonna have a take on which game you want to put some entertainment purposes only credits on, you know, we're just providing you analysis on each game, whichever you want to decide to do. And so, yeah, a lot of, A lot of interesting things. I'll be, you know, be honest. I was at Soldier Field this weekend, which I'm sure you guys may have recapped in an episode or two. So, you know, getting into Soldier Field in the afternoons slate of games and you know, the morning games are going on and just, you know, wild things are happening. Like as you're just kind of taken in the stadium and they got the red zone on it, Soldier Field. And you're looking at some of these scores and what's going on and then pre games or warmups are happening all of a sudden, you know, every game they're talking about a field goal getting blocked. And I'm like, no, no, no, I'm talking about this game. I'm like, no, like three other games a field goal was blocked in and who knows what's going on with spreads and things happening. I mean, there were, there was some bad beats with I think a lot of gamblers, especially if you're looking at that, that Eagles game, man, because you're thinking you're sitting pretty if you're the Rams one way or the other, like the Rams are winning, the Eagles are not covering. And then all of a sudden, hey, as time expired, we're going to block a field goal and one of the big fellas is going to take it 70 yards or something the other way to cover the spread and win the game. [00:33:09] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of people are like on social, we're saying like this because gambling is so prominent now. And they're, and they're saying the Eagles knew that. That's why they took it to the house. Instead of he should just like kneel down. Like, dude, that's kind of dumb. Dude, like that, that guy's. If not ever gonna score a touchdown again, like he had run into the house. But I was really happy though. [00:33:28] Speaker C: No, it's, it's such a dumb take for people to say that. It's a natural instinct. Like when you're. Any positions, man, I get the ball, I'm gonna score. Like how many times does it, you know, a defensive lineman like have the opportunity to be able to score a touchdown. Especially like that. Like you're talking like a moment like you get into. I'm not trying to think about the like, you know, big moments in the playoffs or a running back like goes down to like waste the clock versus running in for a touchdown. And like, that's always like a big deal because, man, you just, you have a sixth sense of like scoop and score or get the ball. Running for a touchdown, not just like lay down to wake waist clock. And in those moments, like, you know, the game's happening so fast and you're thinking about one thing, it's just you're. You're trying to score in every which way. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Unless. And unless it's the end of the game, like Jason mentioned, and you're told before the play, like, hey, like, make sure you stay in bounds and don't score. You're not thinking about it. I mean, that blocked kick there by Davis, the ball bounces perfect to him. Why he's in stride, nothing but green grass. He's not sitting there like, oh, wow, we were only up by one and we're favored by three and a half. Let me go and score. It's just like, wow, I just blocked the kick, I got the ball and all I see is the end zone ahead of me. And you just, you just run. You just do it. [00:34:42] Speaker C: Yeah. There's an old. One of my favorite Bears highlights. I think it was the 2001 season the Bears were playing. Kind of think that it was, think it was the makeup game from September 11th that they're playing the Jags and like big old Ted Washington and Keith Traylor, they were like 300 plus pound defensive lineman for the Bears. And I think it was Ted Washington like went, went the other way. And like when I think it was an interception, he actually tipped the ball to himself and got an interception. And he's running down the field and like Earl Acker and Mike Brown and all these guys are like blocking and he's trying to hand the ball off the entire time. Like, no. And they're just like, run, run, run. Like, you know, it's just, it's great moments, but I mean, you're trying to go like you had a nose to the end zone no matter what, which player you are in the field, whether you're defensive back, linebacker, in your oral lineman, you know. [00:35:32] Speaker B: True, true. Man, let's break down the games. Jason, you have been on fire in the afternoon games, at least doing a lot better than me and Aaron. So congrats to you. Not so much the morning games, but then you go like on this nice little winning streak. It's really cool to see, especially I. [00:35:50] Speaker C: Guess, I guess you're telling everyone, fade me for the 10am slate, but 1pm that's where that's where you take my advice. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, like if we're going like top to top down, I think like me and Aaron always go like two or three games in a row. Like we might lose. You'll hit a four or five game losing streak in the morning. I'm just like what? And I just don't get it. I could have sworn like you have like a lot of picks that match Aaron's but whatever you fade him, it's just like the wrong way or like he fades you the wrong way. And it, it's, it's just hilarious to see it's happened now back to back weeks but we're just all a game apart on the contest. So we'll see what week four brings in. A lot of good matchups. But let's talk about week three, man, because pretty exciting. I'm going to release my new power rankings going to week four later on the pod and this one was kind of tough because I didn't know how. How far to drop people down, how far to raise a few teams up. But we had a few blowouts. We had. I don't know if you guys listen to the pod the, the final, final version but we had an ass kicking of the week and I would like to continue that every single week where it's the ass weapon of the week and we pick a team that just got their ass beat. It was the Bears last week against the Detroit Lions. They won that award. [00:37:02] Speaker A: And then Aaron debuted easy this week Rome. [00:37:05] Speaker B: And then Aaron debuted his bottom five. Jason, while you were in Chicago. So I'm pretty sure he'll do that again. But any candidates for the ass beating of the week for this week? [00:37:19] Speaker A: Bengals. [00:37:20] Speaker C: I, I was at the Bengals. Yeah that game was just. I, that, that was one of the ones I lost bad and I, I did not see Carson went and just completely destroy. I mean we knew the Bengals defense was bad but man that was just a, that was a bad. [00:37:36] Speaker A: Not only that, I mean the Bengals gave him what, 14 points. Spotted them by just throwing pick sixes. Fumble recoveries. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Defense came in huge. Man. [00:37:45] Speaker A: That was a rough one. [00:37:47] Speaker C: Yeah. Justin Jefferson Only like five catches for 75 yards and they scored 48 points. So you know, just. Yeah, that was bad. Like as much as we were giving the Bengals credit for the two and oh start and hey they're going to get off to the right start. Man that doesn't look good for if Burrow's going to be out for the next two months or whatever it is. [00:38:06] Speaker B: It didn't look good. And then I kind of feel bad because you got Jefferson on one side with the Vikings and you have Chase on the Bengals. Former LSU teammates, two of the best receivers in the league just stuck in really tough situations. It's, it's, it's kind of rough, man, if you drafted them in fantasy. But on the plus side though, I did start at Jordan Mason. He killed it. He like that was the only bright spot. Actually had a pretty good year or week in fantasy. But Carson wets good game. I thought he played pretty decent. A couple touchdowns, pretty solid. I think I called it that their coach likes veteran quarterbacks and there's like a stat that was floating out that he does well with ginger quarterbacks. [00:38:47] Speaker C: I did see that too. Rome. I did see that out there too. Yeah. No credit to that game. Aaron already brought it up with the defensive performance and if you looked at the win versus the Bears and then now this win versus the Vikings, the, the Brian Flores defense, you know, no matter what, no matter what's going offensively and they, you know, it's a team that has a lot of offensive talent and, and we're still kind of learning what this quarterback situation is going to be with Kevin o' Connell and he's got, you know, he does well with, with getting the most of his guys, but the defense is going to hold them, you know, in games and that's really what all the one score victories they had last season. I think some of that, some of that mattered and it put him ahead here where, hey, you could put the backup quarterback in. Carson Winston has anything to do. Crazy. You can rely on the running game with Jordan Mason. I think Jordan Mason, if you're the fantasy watcher, that was a guy that a lot of people thought, hey, he's going to overtake Aaron Jones for the starting job. I don't think it was the way, you know, obviously there's an injury with Aaron Jones, but you know, he steps in and does a big job and I don't know if he, I don't know if he gives the, you know, he may get the lion's share of the carries even with Aaron Jones coming back. [00:39:50] Speaker A: Yeah, Rome, I mean we mentioned the Bengals ass whipping of the week. You got, you got to throw the Saints in there too. I mean that game, that game was basically over in the first quarter. [00:39:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I, I, what 20, 21. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Nothing. First quarter. I mean, the Saints down, what were they down like 44, three at one point it was pretty bad. [00:40:08] Speaker B: I had it on the, they were in one of the four games I was initially watching but I was switching it basically between six games and then I finally saw the score. I think second quarter I could have sworn those 28 to 0 or 23 or something like that. It was, it was pretty bad. Sam Darnold though, he's looked pretty solid so far this year as well in his new home. Starting to get more adjusted. Spencer Rattler has lost every game of his career. I guess he's in the running for like worst start ever. [00:40:36] Speaker A: Well, we mentioned it, I think you know before in our season preview that the Saints do not have a quarterback on their roster via starting victory that has got his victory as a starting quarterback zero. [00:40:48] Speaker B: Crazy. [00:40:48] Speaker A: And that's crazy. That looks like it's going to stay true as they travel to Buffalo this upcoming weekend to play against one of arguably the best teams right now in the NFL. So the Saints, it's going to be a rough one. I think I mentioned there's a possibility they could go 00:17. It's, it's, it's realistic chance. I don't think it happens but it's, it's being floated out there. [00:41:09] Speaker B: If they were to get a win though, when does it come? They got the Bills coming up. They're in Buffalo. They got the New York Giants coming in the week after. They got the Patriots after that. Then they go to Chicago to play the Bears Soldier feared. Then they got the Bucks. They go to LA with the Rams, Panthers. After that, Falcons, Dolphins. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean they're, they're three best chances I guess you would say would be the Giants, Carolina and the Jets. Those are all home games. [00:41:52] Speaker B: Yeah, fair. [00:41:54] Speaker A: I mean they've played somewhat competitive here at home. Right. They lost both games by one score at home. So. [00:42:00] Speaker B: That's true. That's true. [00:42:02] Speaker A: I don't know, I don't know how good really Arizona and the Niners are because the Niners were really banged up in that game and Arizona's offensively not very good right now. [00:42:10] Speaker B: But we'll see. [00:42:12] Speaker A: I think Buffalo's just can bring their can breathe their C team and beat them on Sunday. [00:42:19] Speaker C: I, I, yeah, that, that Giants game probably you're circling here in two weeks because you know the Giants are making the change at quarterback this week. [00:42:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:29] Speaker C: And, and so that, that could go one of two ways. That's, that's the, the rookie quarterback trying to do too much and it's turnovers and it turns away for the, for the Saints. So I think you're looking at that. And the Patriots at Home too. Like, I mean the Patriots are better, but like you said, New Orleans is a tough place to play. It's a weird atmosphere down there. So I think there's some, there's some winnable games. But I think that definitely those two coming up for the Giants and Patriots would be, hey, you can win two out of that. And then, you know, late in the season, you know, who knows when you got like the jets and, and you know the, the showdown, the Titans game honestly may be like who's getting the first overall pick? [00:43:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I, you know, I don't know what to think of the Pats yet right now. That's really rough. Giants, who knows? Aaron, you were just a week off on calling that. I think you said Russell was done after week one. He came and blew people out of the water week two. [00:43:24] Speaker A: So I was like, Jason will tell you every. Everybody looks, everybody looks good against that Cowboys defense. [00:43:29] Speaker B: So apparently hold the parade. [00:43:33] Speaker A: Start crowning guys mvp man. Because Russell Wilson came into week three leading the league in passing and now he's sitting on the bench watching with us. [00:43:41] Speaker B: Jason, got something to say here? [00:43:43] Speaker C: Listen, that Cowboys, you know, it's, it's an impressive, it's, it's hard to do something against that Cowboys defense and it's an impressive unit. You know, any, any quarterback who goes up, you know, you know the Matt Eber flu, sled defense and dude, it's something to behold. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I totally forgot he was a decorating. I'm like, it's so fitting. It's so fitting that, you know, for him to get his ass beat. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean touching on the Saints real quick. It'll be interesting to see if they lose again and go to Owen 4. Do they even make the switch to the rookie quarterback that they took as well? Give him a chance again. So the guy they drafted out of Louisville like 26 years old, right? [00:44:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I just can't remember his name right now. [00:44:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't remember his name. [00:44:33] Speaker C: Tyler is it show something like that. Yeah, yeah. [00:44:37] Speaker A: So he's like 26. So it'll be interesting to see if they decide to go to him, you know, rookie versus rookie kind of in dart versus him. If they get blown out and look bad again here against Buffalo. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Yeah, another ass whooping, guys. We totally left it out. Panthers screwing up my picks this week, destroying the Falcons. I picked up the Falcons D and they had no D this week in Carolina. That, that was a shellacking, a no show by Everybody. Michael Pennix Jr. Benched at the end of that game, two interceptions, 18 for 36 yards, 150 yards. They couldn't get Robinson going. They couldn't get nothing going. Bryce Young pulling his best Jalen hurts impression. Barely passing for like 20 something times for 120 yards but pulling out a big victory. What the hell happened there, Rome? [00:45:31] Speaker A: I'm going to disagree about the Falcons defense letting you down. It wasn't the Falcons defense. I mean they only gave up. I'm looking at the numbers. 224 yards. Carolina was only 3 of 11 on third down. That's a great defensive performance. I would take that every Sunday. Problem of Atlanta is their offense. Their office was a no show like our picks basically. Previously on this show a no show like they were just terrible, man. It was, it was bad. [00:45:55] Speaker B: I just don't get it. [00:45:56] Speaker C: The Falcon's been tough to, tough to figure out, man. It's been, it's been. This is the second year now of us. I don't know what to do week to week with the Falcons because they could come out in the next couple weeks and beat Tampa Bay or something like that. And we're gonna be like, oh, they play the Commanders this week, you know, are we going to be shocked if they somehow beat the Commanders and be like, oh, the Commanders are supposed to go to the super bowl and now like they're losing to the Falcons. Like I, I don't know, week to week with that team. The, the Pennix thing is interesting though. There was something floating online or like he hasn't beat a team that scored more than seven points or something like that. It's been like floating out and, and now I know he's got like, I don't know, like five, six starts or something like that, but at the end, at the end of the day, like you're, you're going to need more reps out of him too. So going to Kirk Cousins isn't going to be your long term are likely so you're going to need more out of it. But yeah, to Aaron's point, the defense keeping him in it, what are we going to do offensively? How do they get, how do they get Bijan to continue to expand his role to take pressure off of Penx, you know, while still getting some of these weapons around them, you know, the touches that they need. But I agree with you, Rome, kind of a, kind of a day that you want to forget because it's one thing to just lose and it's like, hey, it's an unexpected upset but lose 30 to nothing. You got nothing offensively with all the skill players that you got for Atlanta. Like that's, it's pretty remarkable. I've seen some bad offenses being a Bears fan, but man, getting, getting, getting a zero on the board. [00:47:20] Speaker A: That's right, zero and zero. Gets a bad Carolina team too. I mean, in fact the Atlanta so bad that they fired their wide receivers coach. So that was yesterday. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:47:31] Speaker A: So he, he got, he got the blame for it. He's out Atlanta. I mean I keep hearing something about Kirk cousin Kirk Cousins is not the answer. Like we've been talking, like Jason said, we've been talking about the Falcons. They can look like world beaters. They look great against Minnesota. Defense was flying, offense was efficient and we know Minnesota is a good, solid defensive team and tough to beat there. And at home Carolina, I mean they've looked God awful. I mean outside of that basic third, fourth quarter they had against Arizona, they'd scored 19 points in six quarters against not great football teams in Jacksonville, in Arizona and then 30. Burger. That's rough, rough of your Atlanta, man. It was rough. But to Jason's point, it's, it's a great spot for them to come back this upcoming week against Washington who's banged up and Washington's defense is not good at all. I mean the Raiders pit points on them, Green base, pit points on them. So it's a good spot for their offense this week to get back on track. [00:48:29] Speaker B: Let's go to that Raiders game real quick. That was like my other nominee for ass open of the week because I think it was 34 to 7 or 34 to 10 at some point in the game and that game was out of reach and like the Raiders just kind of, it was all in. What do you call that? Trash time? Dump time. [00:48:52] Speaker A: Garbage time. [00:48:53] Speaker B: Garbage time. There you go. I couldn't think of it. Yeah, it was all in garbage time. And so like Geno Smith, like, yeah, I look like you had a great game but honestly those three quarters like an uptude but 41 to 24, that's a pretty big ass open as well. I thought the Raiders are going to show up. I thought they had to and they didn't. It was a little too little too late. [00:49:12] Speaker C: Year one of Pete Carroll getting Geno Smith, I think the offensive line, I don't know Aaron, you may have saw more of that game. It hasn't been great because Genti's basically. I think Genti's got like 169 yards rushing and 167 of it is after contact. So I'm pretty sure. [00:49:33] Speaker A: I think. I was talking, I was talking to our guy Nick. He's, he's, you know, he's a big Raiders fan and he's, he's not happy about the offensive line he was mentioning. Like, I think on, I think Genti he mentioned was hit behind the line of scrimmage, like on 11 of his 17 carries before he even basically got back to the original line. [00:49:50] Speaker B: They're not blocking anybody. [00:49:52] Speaker A: This O line is, this O line is bad. And they're not even really using Genti as like a workhorse. I mean, he's basically getting 12 to 15 carries a game where he probably needs to be getting 20 to 25. I mean they got, they got Jason's Bears this week. Not a great defense. They got their issues, their own. I think it's gonna be a high scoring game shoot out there in Vegas, but we'll see. It's a big game for both teams because one of them is going to get back to 500. [00:50:16] Speaker B: Yeah, they don't use like Brock Bowers efficiently. They don't use. [00:50:21] Speaker A: He's, he's playing on one leg, it looks like. [00:50:23] Speaker B: I don't know. The thing about the Raiders, I, I think Geno Smith might be there with Russell. It might be time. [00:50:30] Speaker C: I think Geno's got more in the tank than Russell. But when you have a suspect offensive line like you can't run the ball now, you're relying more in the pass now you got teams with decent defensive lines that are able to just tee off on that. Like that's, that's, that's the tough stuff, you know, to be a quarterback behind that. I mean, Gino wasn't, wasn't great, but he wasn't bad either. Didn't. You know, I don't think he had a turnover. He didn't throw a pick. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Isn't Gino the last two years lead the league in completion percentage like at 71%. So I mean, if you give Geno time, he can throw the ball and he's pretty accurate. Okay. Mobility not great. I mean he can scramble out if he needs to. But like Jason said, I mean this O line is bottom third in the league. They're not running the ball and they're, they're getting. When you get behind like they have been these last two weeks against the Chargers in Washington, you can only do one thing and throw the ball on. That allows these defense, defensive lines, defensive ends to kind of just tee back and rush the quarterback. They don't have to Play the run. And it's. It makes. It makes things difficult. It makes it tough. So big game, like I said, coming up with the Bears. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Yeah. So out of those four games, you guys give the ass over to the week to the Bengals? [00:51:48] Speaker A: I do. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. I agree. [00:51:50] Speaker B: All right, cool. Congratulations, Bengals, on aspect of the week for this week. All right, let's move on to some games that were like, pretty close calls or you just didn't expect the result to kind of go on the way it happened. Aaron, what kind of sticks out for you? [00:52:10] Speaker A: A lot of games, Rome, but you touched on one already. Panthers over the Falcons. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:14] Speaker A: I mean, 30. Nothing on that one. [00:52:16] Speaker B: That made no sense. [00:52:18] Speaker A: You know, I think. I think. I think we'd both agree the best team the first two weeks of the NFL season was probably the Green Bay Packers. I don't know. I. I mean, they didn't cover the game, but I don't even know how they lost. I mean, the Browns don't score a point till like at 56 minutes into the game and somehow managed to, as Jason talked about earlier, this block field goal brigade that we had going on, the Browns decided to get in on this and still a victory from the packers, but I think it's a good loss for the packers in the long run. That. That game obviously was a shocker, I think, for everybody. [00:52:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I picked the packs with you. I. I think when we're doing the picks, but I was uneasy about this one. I was uneasy about taking the Rams and. And Eagles game just because the Browns, I think they're like 15 and 3 or something like that against teams with winning records at home over the last couple years. And like, their defense is still solid. Just 10 points out of that electric offense. Weird. [00:53:13] Speaker C: Yeah, this. That was one of the. That was the most shocking to me. I know the blowout of the Falcons. Agree with Aaron on that. But I think the packers, what we saw from weeks one and two is like, wow, who's gonna stop this team? You know, we. [00:53:27] Speaker B: We. [00:53:28] Speaker C: They made the Lions look so bad. Aaron, I. Aaron and I were calling the Lions basically dunzo after week one that we couldn't get the thing. And then. And you know, what they were able to do, you know, in week two, you know, just didn't. Didn't change that with the commanders that, hey, the commanders had all. All the hype coming off of last year and what they've been doing and building in Washington. And so, like, you're not. You're expecting this kind of an automatic win. Where the Browns were like, hey, they're playing the Browns, the Cowboys this next week, the Bengals, like, man, you're saying, hey, this team's going to be five and oh, you know, maybe six. And after they play the Cardinals, like, and to lose a game to the Browns, you know, Aaron, like, Aaron's right. Interesting place to play. And you Rom, you just called it out on the record. The Browns may have at home versus some winning teams, but yeah, the way they lost the game, but for even to be that close because, you know, you just looked at Jordan Love being able to get the ball to so many different aspects of their offense in the first two weeks, able to rely on the running game with Jacobs in some key situations. And yeah, just it's one of those bad losses. Aaron's probably right. This turn, this motivates a team. It turns into a good loss. You know, you got. But I, But I mean, you're tied, you know, for the division. And we talked through, you know, a two in one Vikings team, two in one Lions team, two in one packers team. It's tight in the NFC North Bears like, you know, not as good at one and two a game out. But I think it makes it maybe a little more competitive than we were thinking after the first two weeks. And so that I think it's a little bit, a little shaky there. But you know, they play a bad Cowboys defense coming up and probably all is right in the world in Green Bay after they probably blow them out. [00:55:05] Speaker B: Oh, they're gonna answer back for sure. Yeah. Feel bad for Cowboys fans. I think how close the Bucks and Jets game was. I wasn't expecting to be that tight. [00:55:17] Speaker A: It wasn't really close. I mean it's kind of one of those scores where you look at it. But what was it? It was 236 going in the fourth quarter. Yeah. [00:55:25] Speaker B: But then they let the jets come back and then it was like that crazy fourth quarter frame like all the afternoon, like as all the games were ending. You had black blocks, field goals, block punts. They returned it for a touchdown. I'm like, all right, cool. At least Baker has more time to do like another game winning drive. And luckily they pulled out. That was pretty crazy. [00:55:44] Speaker A: I think I, I think the funniest thing of that game, I'm sure you guys have seen it if you have it. And after that blocked field goal touchdown return was the Aaron Glenn dance. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Oh, it's like a dance. [00:55:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Like he's got the victory. And then Baker probably just saw it and said, hey, hold these While I'm going, beat your ass again. Right. So, I mean, I'm, I'm glad the jets lose every game. [00:56:08] Speaker B: If, if you're watching it just as the field goal got blocked and they're like panning the Baker and they just go. You just seems like God damn it. And like, all right, well we got some time left on the clock. He just like did it again. It was pretty amazing. [00:56:23] Speaker A: Is Baker three known fourth quarter comebacks this year? Because he. Did he come rally back to beat the Falcons too? Or is that. [00:56:29] Speaker B: They've all come back. Yeah, they've all come back in the last 30 seconds of the game. Game winning field goal. It's pretty crazy. [00:56:37] Speaker A: He's got to be now in the top five and fourth quarter comebacks of active quarterbacks. I would imagine now in the NFL. [00:56:45] Speaker B: That'S a good stat to look up. [00:56:46] Speaker C: It sounds right. All, all these games feel like they're just coming down to the end where I think all of us were pretty high on the, on the Buccaneers at the beginning of the season. These games have been so close with them. It's like, man, are they, are they really kind of who we, you know, do they, they have this, do they have what we need? But hey, we have a three point win, a one point win and a two point win here. But the three, zero, they, they, they've won. And that's a division that's got a bad Saints team, a bad Panthers team and a Falcons team that can't make up its mind what it wants to do. So I mean, three wins already in that division, man, you might be like, you know, a little less than halfway home to get enough wins to make the playoffs. [00:57:26] Speaker B: Valid point. Valid point. Any other games, surprising outcomes? [00:57:31] Speaker A: I would say not a surprise they won, but it's surprising how they won. Romeo like this Detroit, Detroit just physically manhandled basically Baltimore on the offense and defensive line. I didn't see that coming. I'm not surprised Detroit won. I mean they got talented team. Jason mentioned in week one, kind of they're breaking in some new guards. Their offensive line has been shaky. They didn't look good against Green Bay. Baltimore, we just know is one of these physical teams that kind of just manhandles you up front. Ravens were about 2D lineman that really showed up and hurt. I mean, this was the first time in 25 years that a team ran for over 200 yards against these guys in Baltimore. It never happens. I never seen Baltimore in the hardball era that I can remember just get manhandled on the defensive line and get beat up like they did like that. So impressive win by Detroit in the fashion in which they did it. I was shocked by that. [00:58:26] Speaker B: I wasn't as shocked, but I wasn't down on. On the Lions as as much as you guys were. Jared Goff has looked great per usual. He's still keeping up with what he did last year. For them to run the ball though, the way they did Sonic and Hedgehog or whatever, they saw Sonic and Knuckles, they just completely dominated the whole game. Golf didn't really need to do much in the air. I'm on Ross St. Brown. He had like this really cool touchdown. Talking in the camera with a hot live mic. That was pretty fun to see by the way. Social media was going crazy just because he's from like Anaheim Hills. I guess I was saying like he's not allowed to act that dope, that gangster. Scoring a touchdowns like dude, everyone's so sensitive. Out of that game though, I was kind of surprised with the defense. They just didn't apply enough pressure. Derrick Henry fumbling for the third game in a row. That's kind of weird. Just like having the ball hang out there. You don't really. I don't think that's ever happened in his career. Lamar Jackson looked phenomenal so he's always going to keep them in these games. And they actually put a scare. I turned the TV off or at least I put on mute. I think I started texting you guys like, all right, cool. I got this victory in the, in the books and. And they scored the touchdown convert on. On the two. Two point. So they made it exciting. But yeah, big win by the Detroit Lions. They definitely made some waves and they're integrating their new offensive line pieces very well. And plus I mentioned when we're doing the lines, Aaron, their defensive players are all coming back. They're just gearing up, kind of getting all that rust when they've been out all last year. I'm liking the way Hutchinson's looking and the rest of the team. [01:00:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean Ravens are a tough offense. They scored what, 30 points on them. But I think the real thing is from like you mentioned their defense, you can get big plays against these guys, you can score. But the seven sacks they had, they contained Lamar Jackson, they made plays. Aiden Hutchinson, you pay these guys, these DNS to make plays on the quarterback or force fumbles on running backs. That was a big key. And then they had a. I think the Ravens had a first and goal in the second quarter. Did not get in Again, the Lions won the battle up front. That was the difference in this game. I mean, I, I don't think it's a great defensive unit on the back end. They give him some big plays in the passing game again. So we'll see. Detroit's got talent. Good, good win for them. A really good win on the road against a good or, you know, we think a good Ravens team, but we'll see, we'll see how they finish out. [01:01:02] Speaker B: I still think they're really good. [01:01:05] Speaker C: I think they're still good too, and I think they're still in it for the super bowl because you're talking about a big comeback from the Bills and then this team's 2 and 1 versus 1 and 2. See now I think that, I think there's two questions you ask yourself from, from the Ravens when you've played premier oppositions on the other side of the ball of the Bills. And now the Lions like it is just a shootout. This isn't like a dominant Ravens defense. [01:01:28] Speaker B: It was a heavyweight fight, man. [01:01:30] Speaker C: It is. But like you, you expect by reputation the, the Ravens have this defense that's keeping it close. But this is a different type of Ravens team where hey, cool, we're just turning into a shootout like Ron Madden and it's last person with the ball wins type stuff. I think defense potentially number one. I think number two, the biggest thing is going to be looking at Derrick Henry right now because he's got three fumbles in three games right now, which is, you know, super uncharacteristic for him. And so is it basically his the two losses? I don't think you could put it square on him, but they've been turning points of the game and yeah, I. [01:02:09] Speaker A: Think the Buffalo one, you can pit on him. This one, I think Detroit was still. [01:02:13] Speaker C: It was still in control. [01:02:14] Speaker A: But Buffalo, but Buffalo, Buffalo was basically dead, as we know by the25,000 fans leaving that. That fumble was the fumble heard in the parking lot when everybody was trying to scramble back in. Yep. [01:02:27] Speaker C: So I mean, I just think that's concerning for a guy that's so dominant and just like a freak of nature when you're talking being a 30 year old running back and how big and how fast and like the way he runs the ball and it was never a question like you get scared handing him the box, he's going to take it to the house and just run over everybody and. But now when you're in a position to ice games or you need big carries from them all of a Sudden fumbling becomes a liability. And so I believe that it will be fixed. But I think this is a problem going forward because hey man, like, we can't, we can't have a bad turnover in a key moment. And he's got to be a piece you rely on because you don't want to just be Lamar Jackson everywhere there in the fourth quarter. There's got to be other options that the defense is gunning for. But now, like, hey, we're a little more confident going after Derrick Henry, you know, defensively, because there's the opportunity that it's going to force a turnover. So I think, I mean, two things unpack, but I don't think it's panic time for Baltimore because like last year there was, there was the unexpected loss to what was the Raiders in week two last year and they were like, oh, and two or something like that. Yeah, you know, they play a Chiefs team next week that, you know, big game. [01:03:37] Speaker B: I don't. [01:03:38] Speaker C: Big game, but I don't, I don't know what you're, what you're thinking there from that you've seen from the Chiefs. That would give you really much faith that they'd be able to keep up pace wise with that defense. And then they play a Texans team after that, that out of all the most disappointing teams, the Texans, I mean we're, we're like 13 months from you guys ticket sending these guys to the city. [01:04:05] Speaker A: I don't think it's a bad take. It's just a bad job. What they've done coaching wise, what happened? They got rid of Bobby Solvik and they got, they went, they progressed worse. They got rid of all. They got rid of their best offensive lineman, sent them to Washington. They got rid of an OC that was, you know, top five board candidate for head coaching gigs. And yeah, it's a mess for the Texans. A lot of talent there. I mean, but if you actually put on the tape and watch these guys, they're literally one bad play from not making it being three. No, they're going in for the scoring drive against the Rams. They fumble inside the 20. [01:04:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:42] Speaker A: Baker, fourth and 10, sneaks out the five hole, gets the first down, beats them and then they're driving late to get the winning score. Nico fumbles. Jacksonville gets it and goes down and gets the score. So yeah, they are owing three. I don't trust them at all. But it's not like they're getting beat bad like some of these teams are. [01:05:00] Speaker B: Aaron. [01:05:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:01] Speaker B: Oh, go ahead, Jason. [01:05:03] Speaker C: I was gonna say they get the Titans this week to, you know, get their first win and try to figure things out. But I think Aaron's completely right because if you look at the last basically 12 months of CJ Stroud, you know, it was like, oh, we're chalking this up to like a sophomore slum. There's kind of the infamous picture of him and Caleb Williams after week two last year. [01:05:21] Speaker B: It's not a good record since then and people are keeping track. [01:05:25] Speaker C: It's not a good record since that the stats bear out that Caleb's outplaying him since. Since that picture was taken too. And so. But like Aaron said, like, how much you blaming coaching? Because he was sacked more than I think anyone last year, you know, from. [01:05:42] Speaker B: An offline to second. [01:05:45] Speaker A: Second to Caleb, right? [01:05:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:05:46] Speaker A: I mean, he was sacked. He was sacked second. And I mentioned, you know, you weren't on the pod, Jason, but he went, he, he was getting pressure on 40% of his drop back passes, which already was ranked third coming into this game against Jacksonville. The O line's the problem. I mean, I'm high on C.J. stroud. I think he's an elite quarterback, an elite arm and elite talent, but they can't run the ball and mixing and him not being there, that really has hurt them a lot. Him being out. They got no run game, one dimensional. They're all defense and special teams. That's it right now for the Texans. [01:06:21] Speaker B: I think you talked me into the Eagles pick Aaron and thank God because we won that one. But I talked to you away from the Jags on this one. I said Texans have to win, otherwise they're going down 0 and 3. They're still. I think they're more talented than Jacksonville. And then so we pivoted over to the Texas. [01:06:37] Speaker A: There's two games I regret. I should have taken Jacksonville and I should have took in the Vikings. Everybody else I'm satisfied with. Those are the two I regret. I mean, I'd still take the Falcons over Carolina any day. But yeah, yeah, this happens. [01:06:51] Speaker B: Those losses. Yeah, but like the, yeah, the Jags, you, you were edging that way and I talked you into the Texans. That's just, just the way the cookie crumbles. I don't know. Texas are in trouble, man. Owen 3. They're in deep. [01:07:05] Speaker C: I think they're 0 and 3. But the biggest thing is they're owing 3 and the Colts are 3 0. And so when you're looking at competition in that division, who is it going to come from? I think the Colts were there But I think the Jags were a team that are a couple years removed from, you know, playoffs and last year that were way beyond the Blake borders. But you think it was two years ago, you know, they had that play, the Chargers. [01:07:30] Speaker A: Yeah, they beat the Chargers in the wild card and got beat by the Chiefs game. [01:07:33] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. So they're two years away from that. I think last year we were hyping up of what this team was going to be because, hey, you had Doug Peterson, you know, Trevor Lawrence, is he going to start taking a step under Peterson? And then last year was just a complete, you know, dog do disasters. It did. And then, you know, Trevor Lawrence just hasn't taken that step. And the thing for me, for the Jags this year, we didn't talk a ton of on the preview. And I'll say it's become ever more apparent even with the Jags sitting at two and run right now. The Shane Waldron offensive coordinator curse of taking away the best wide receivers. If you've looked at what he did in Seattle and now in Chicago and now going into what he's doing in Jacksonville, you had Jackson's Smith Jigba as the gear Waldron leaves, he explodes. Now you're looking at the year Waldron's gone to Chicago, Roman Dunze exploding. He comes into Jacksonville, Brian Thomas, who is like, you know, maybe on par with neighbors last year for best rookie wide receiver, you know, basically ghosted, you know, this entire first three weeks except for kind of the fourth quarter there where he finally made a big play. So I question a ton offensively with Shane Waldron and what they have. You have a lot of stock in what Liam Cohen is doing at the head coach in there. But man, there's been some things offensively from the Jags that are a little bit questionable early on. But hey, they're two and one. They've made good strides. I know Aaron and I talked what Liam Cohen and the offense have done. I think Travis Etn, you know, was almost getting like bench last year for Tank Bigsby and some other stuff going on. They've re established what he can be and be a elite number one running back. Only 56 yards this last week, but I think the emphasis on getting him the ball, working the clock and you know, what Liam Cohen had done in Tampa Bay with the running backs there. Aaron and I had titled that early and I think that's where some of the pluses have been for Jacksonville. [01:09:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, Jacksonville's ran the ball well. I mean, Liam Cohen's one of the better run creator guys in this league. Calling, calling a game. That's really helped. I mean, so well that they, they shipped Bixby out to Philadelphia. So they, they like where they're at in the running back room. Like I said, They're 2 and 1. That's a big win. They, they could really easily be three. No, I mean, they should have probably beat the Bengals in week two. Let's be honest. They gave that game away. Yeah, they got a big game against Rome's 49ers coming up. I'm curious, you know, Rome, did you, did you, did you talk to the guy that gets into the 49er games? Was he there at this one? The guy that just basically, you know, walks around and says what's up? And slips a quick 15. All of a sudden he's in the lower bowl. I saw some empty seats there, so I think he might have got in again. [01:10:26] Speaker B: Yeah, Tickets are actually pretty cheap this weekend. I thought about doing last minute tickets for me and my daughter. I did text, I haven't talked to him, but I did text Will though. Friend of the pods. And they do listen from time to time. They were down on the 49ers at halftime. Like they were not happy. I was like, don't worry, did I think they'll pull it out. So they were just drinking on the Budweiser patio for the second half, getting hammered with other up and down four niner fans. But they pull out the victory. It was a fun Mac Jones winning drive to go to three and oh man, who would have thought? Mac Jones looking pretty decent. [01:10:59] Speaker A: I think we all had the 49ers going three. You know, that weak schedule that they've pretty much had to start the year. [01:11:04] Speaker B: Well, they almost lost us too. Like you got, you got Connor that went out and he was starting out hot. Like I was a little nervous in that first quarter. I'm like, dude, like, Cardinals look like they're on a mission. And then when he goes down, the whole vibe kind of, kind of changes. And. And that's it. And for, and for some reason, Marvin Harrison Jr. Can't catch a ball. [01:11:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, Arizona is a tough team for me to figure out offensively because it's too early. Was it Kevin McBride, the tight end? I would say he's what, a top three, top five tight end in this league. He's pinning up big numbers. And Harrison Jr. Just literally sitting there basically can fair catch half the passes he gets and can't even catch them. The run Game's inconsistent. Their defense has played hard even though they're banged up on that side. Arizona is a team that's tough for me to figure out even going into this Thursday matchup with Seattle. I mean, that game could go either way because their teams, it's in Arizona, but they, they're built pretty identical. I kind of sense they're kind of built the same defense first kind of grind it out, run the ball and then hit you over the top of some play action. But Arizona had a good chance to win that game. I mean, 49ers banged up. Mac Jones, I think he was playing that game of a PCL terror, whatever. He got re injured something. Yeah, that's a tough loss for Arizona. They, they had it. They had that game. But they give the Niners credit. Jake Moody out, Panero in. [01:12:25] Speaker B: They get the W. Oh, people were going crazy up here. They're like, Moody would have lost that for sure. He would have went wide left. It was cheering, dude. The bars, you could hear all the bars around us cheering. They were happy that Moody was out. So there's not a lot of love for Moody right now in the big area. [01:12:43] Speaker A: Where did Moody get picked up to get picked up by your Bears? Jason? Is that where he went? [01:12:46] Speaker C: Yeah, he's on the practice squad. [01:12:48] Speaker A: I, I forget, I forgot where he went. Okay. [01:12:50] Speaker C: It was, it was good making the rounds in social media because the Bears got a pretty solid kicker in Cairo, Santos. But he's accurate. But literally anything beyond 50, he doesn't get the leg for it. And so it was pretty much, do you want Moody, who can kick it a mile but can't make it, has no accuracy? Or you got Santos, who can kick it only like 40 yards but has no, like, length beyond that. So it's like you don't know who you're picking when it comes to the kicker. So I, I don't know if the Bears move on from Cairo, Santos, because I think there's some dependability in these, these short yarded situations, but it was an interesting pickup. [01:13:27] Speaker B: All right. Covered some pretty good close games. Biggest wins for week three. Jason, who do you think got the biggest win? [01:13:38] Speaker C: Well, obviously I'm wearing the hat. Rome. The Bears get the biggest win of the weekend. [01:13:41] Speaker B: That was a big win, dude. I was going with the Bears this week. [01:13:45] Speaker C: I, I, I, obviously it's a little personal for me when I'm thinking about the Bears having the win, but if, if the bears were sitting at 013 right now, the conversation around Chicago, the national media, you Know, specifically around probably Caleb Williams. No matter what, no matter what was happening defensively for the Bears because Aaron called it out. The Bears defense is not great. And the first, you know, the first two losses, I don't put it 100% on Caleb. You know, you give up 50 points to the Lions, man, you're not coming back from that defensively. And even in the first loss to the Vikings, like the Bears were in a position to be up in that game, everything up until the fourth quarter and the defense let them down. So I think if the bears were 0 and 3, there'd be a ton of more, you know, negative conversation around Caleb and Ben Johnson and everything, you know, going on there. So that's why I think it's. I think that was the biggest win of the weekend. I think it highlighted a ton wrong with the Cowboys at the same time, too. But the revisionist history going into that game, you know, I don't know what the national media was picking, but the Bears, were they home dogs? Did they ended up being like, was it. Yeah, I think Cowboys fading. [01:15:01] Speaker A: I think they closed as a one and a half point underdog. The Bears did. [01:15:04] Speaker C: Yeah. So, I mean, they're a dog at home and you know, so going into that game, I don't think anyone was expecting. They didn't know what to get from the Bears. And there was a conversations that Cassidy was out early. But, you know, I, I think overall, like the Bears offense was able to do things that you're kind of expecting in. In a Ben Johnson offense. Even if it is, you know, maybe one of the worst defenses in the NFL in Dallas. But I think, I think it's a get back to get back on the right track with the Bears. I don't know if they get to the 10 wins. I said at the beginning of the season. But now you're in a position playing the Raiders next week. Both teams one and two, the Bears are in a position to get back to.500 before their bye week. And, you know, that's why it just looks so impressive offensively for the Bears. Of all the different pieces, they got involved offensively. Are you going to be able to do that every week against a great defense? And no. Do I still have concerns about the running game? 100%. And I have more concerns about the run defense because some timely turnover, specifically on the first Dallas drive of Tyreek Stevenson ripping the ball out of Javante. [01:16:13] Speaker A: That was a hell of a play. That was a hell of a play. [01:16:15] Speaker C: I mean, it's not. I don't know if you could say it's a game changing play because the game ended up being tied 14:14 at one point. But bears went three and out to start the game and Williams ripped off I think two runs. You know, at that point I think he had 30 something runs and two carries. That second carry ending in the turnover. And then that led to a huge Bears touchdown pass to Roma. Dunze off that. So I, I think there was, there's a scenario in the game if they run the ball down thinking Dallas is up 7. Nothing, you know, does this game turn into something different and then they, you know, CD Goes in at running back. I know people are ripping Schottenheimer for that decision. Although it's funny because on the, on the, on the opposite side of the ball, The Bears had D.J. moore lined up as running back at least two or three times in the game. That Bears fans around me were wondering why they're running, lining up as running back. So they're trying to get these guys touches any way possible. But yeah, you gave me my Bears segment. Rome, I'd say that they were the biggest winner of the weekend. [01:17:11] Speaker B: Not Caleb look great. Roman dudes. They look great. Looks like they're developing nice chemistry there. You talk about the Bears defense. So at least like they get like sacks, they get interceptions, they kind of break up stuff. But they do allow, allow a lot of points. You know what defense, it almost mirrors them statistically in every category. And they were, and they were talking about potentially being like one of the top defenses coming into the season. My Steelers. [01:17:38] Speaker A: The Steelers have not looked good. Rome. [01:17:40] Speaker B: They look like shit. [01:17:41] Speaker A: They should, they should have lost on Sunday. But yeah, talking about big wins, I mean. Yeah, touching on what Jason said, the Bears, that was a nice win. The defense made some good plays. CD Lamb getting hurt obviously helped them a lot there because Dallas never scored again after I believe he got went down. Yeah, I do think the Bears would still win that game. It's a big confidence builder for them going forward. But Rome, the biggest win of the week, The Chargers. [01:18:07] Speaker B: Huge. [01:18:08] Speaker A: Chargers get to 3. 0. But not only that, now they're 3. 0 in the division. They've beaten everybody in the division to start the year. [01:18:15] Speaker B: Kansas City Broncos. [01:18:17] Speaker A: If you could start the year3.0 and have a leg up like that on the division like they do right now, that's money. That's the big winner for me because if you lose that game with Kansas City winning the Broncos and you lose that home, you go to 2 and 1. They'd have the Edge of the tiebreaker now you got a two game lead in the division over everybody else. Some winnable games coming up as they travel to the Giants to face it now a rookie quarterback since they've made that switch. We know, we talked about it hardball year two. We thought this team was last year. We said kind of, you know, a year ahead of schedule. Now, you know, they're, they're making the jump to be that, you know, elite tier team. I think Buffalo's still better, but right now it's step below them's the Chargers and if they stay healthy and keep coming, they're going to be difficult. They got some concerns of some offensive linemen being banged up. But I. Overall, we know Jesse mentor in this defense of coordinator that he is, has got them playing great. You know, whether or not you thought he was stealing signs and had all the show calls there at Michigan, I think, I think you can put that to bed because what he's doing here in the NFL for Chargers defense that ranked bottom to last when Brandon Staley was there put that rumor to bed that that's a joke. But he's done. There's a great job and he's gonna be a candidate for a head coaching job here, if not next season, the following year. Because the Chargers defensively, you know, they're really good. So it's gonna be tough for the rookie guy coming in dart to beat these guys. I look for the Chargers probably to get the 4 0. [01:19:46] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead. [01:19:48] Speaker C: No, I was gonna say it's not, it's not a bad call from. Because I think the 30 is a big deal in that division. And I think for. On the flip side for the Broncos, one of Aaron's, One of Aaron's five teams in the NFL, I, I would say that's a little. [01:20:04] Speaker A: I'll take it, man. I gotta, I gotta balance it out. [01:20:07] Speaker B: Burn here. [01:20:08] Speaker C: No burn. No burn. I mean we know we, we have, we had the, we had the 80 bull, you know, just a week ago with the, with the Colts Broncos. We know he's a. I love what. [01:20:16] Speaker A: I'm seeing from the Colts, man. I love what I'm seeing from him. [01:20:18] Speaker C: But I, I think, I think the Broncos, you expect them to kind of come into that game and Bo Nix like, I guess that was where I was drinking the Aaron's Kool Aid a little bit here in year two where you're gonna see him make this step up and man, it has not been. It's been, it's been. I don't Know if it's worse than last year, but it definitely hasn't gotten better. Where you've expected to see more for all everything, all the reps under Sean Payton's offense, but we've not seen it at all. [01:20:43] Speaker B: They're facing some pretty tough defenses, so I, I got to give them that though. It's a pretty tough start for the season. [01:20:49] Speaker A: Broncos are close. I mean, Bo Nicks, like Jason mentioned, he missed some throws, he had some chance for big plays. He's only 2, 2 out of 8 in completions over 25 yards attempt. I'm not worried really about the Broncos. We know they got a good defense. They've lost two games. Basically out the horn. Field goal kicks this team. I mean, the leverage call, whether or not it should have been called or not against the Colts, you, you could argue it either way. It's. It's a stupid call, it's a stupid penalty. It's a safety penalty. I, I don't like it. But you know, hey, I had the cold set game. I'm, you know, it was the at bowl like Jason mentioned, so I was happy with either side that won that game. And yeah, like, like we said Chargers 3, 0, all three games, division victories. I mean, if you can go, you know, if you can win four or five division games, that usually means you're going to win the division. And the Chargers, we talk about them not just getting to the playoffs, but having a chance maybe to win a playoff game. Maybe they get a chance to host a game or two. That would be big before, you know, as we get later down the road. [01:21:52] Speaker B: Yeah, they were my dark, dark horse to make some noise in the playoffs. So now they look great. They're doing that hardball jump again. He's done that everywhere. Got some people calling him the greatest coach ever. It's a little too early for that. There's a lot of fandom around him, but no big win from the Chargers. Really happy for that whole team. That's awesome. For the city of San Diego. I mean la. Other big victories. Bills big win against the Dolphins. We didn't talk about that. [01:22:26] Speaker A: I don't even consider it a big win. I mean, it's a cakewalk win for them. [01:22:29] Speaker B: Well, you know, just for the semester. Dolphins little funeral coming up. I love. [01:22:36] Speaker C: Does for the Bills, man. I mean, you get past the Ravens. I think that was the opening when you needed. The jets game obviously wasn't closed. This Dolphins game maybe a little more competitive than you thought, but again, it. [01:22:47] Speaker B: Was closer than I thought. It'd be. [01:22:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. You start looking at the schedule now that they play the Saints. Then they get another division game with the Patriots. That, you know, it could be kind of interesting, but. And then they got Falcons, Panthers, a Chiefs team that doesn't look good. Then the Dolphins again, man. Like, there's, there's an opportunity here for the Bills, man. I don't know. You start looking at some of their schedule. Is it a 15 win team, 14 win team? [01:23:10] Speaker B: Like, it can't be that easy. [01:23:14] Speaker C: I mean, you know what? [01:23:16] Speaker B: I can't remember who it was. [01:23:17] Speaker A: I mean, they're over under. Their over under was 12 and a half. [01:23:20] Speaker B: Right. It was whatever it was. [01:23:22] Speaker C: So, I mean, you got, you got. [01:23:25] Speaker A: What they win last year, 13 games. [01:23:28] Speaker B: There's some people talking though. [01:23:30] Speaker A: They're. They're better this year than they were last year. [01:23:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. They could trip up against the Bucks. I mean, I think emotional. [01:23:42] Speaker A: The game you got to look at is maybe Atlanta. You never, you never know what you're going to get against them. [01:23:47] Speaker B: You never know. [01:23:48] Speaker C: Atlanta would be there, I think. I don't, I don't think the Chiefs game will be as hard, but it'll probably be unrealistically close because all these cheese games tend not to be in like motions. [01:23:57] Speaker A: It is in Buffalo. So the Bills seem to always win that one. [01:24:01] Speaker B: Who knows how the paths look by the end of the season. Got Eagles. I don't know. [01:24:08] Speaker C: There's some favorability there where they're. Hey, they're going to run away schedule. [01:24:11] Speaker A: Their schedules. Their schedule's really, really favorable. I mean, they should. They shouldn't at no worse when they play The Chiefs be 7 and 1. [01:24:22] Speaker B: The Bills got the. What was. You guys make fun of the Texas Longhorn schedule. That's the kind of schedule they got. [01:24:33] Speaker C: It's fair. I think the Niners got that Texas Longhorn schedule too. Like. [01:24:36] Speaker B: Oh, they definitely got that skill. Yeah. [01:24:38] Speaker A: Well, I mean. Yeah, Rome. I mean, Buffalo. Well, Buffalo. Well, Baltimore, that was a big win. Miami just been garbage right now. I mean, Tampa Bay, Houston looks bad. Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, I mean, they got a tough end, but now of all these guys being hurt. Not what they thought. It's looking good, but. Yeah. I mean, the team with the real schedule. Easy one. Is the 49ers. No doubt about that. [01:25:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:25:01] Speaker B: Let's recap a little bit. I think we. So we talked about almost every game. Colts though especially. That was such a big one. C. Jason, I think we were talking a lot about Daniel Jones. Maybe a little too early. A year too early, because we met what we were talking about him last year, Danny Dimes for this year, because he's been lights out. He was on the Manning cast last night on Monday Night Football. Doesn't really talk a lot, this guy. [01:25:26] Speaker C: I, I, well, I mean, the Mannings, I think, were the people who believed in Daniel Jones the most. [01:25:32] Speaker B: They like him. Yeah. [01:25:33] Speaker C: Because he was, I'm pretty sure, Aaron, you cried, man. I'm pretty sure he was like, at the Manning camp. And then like, Eli really endorsed him when they took him to the Giants. So I think he's on the boat there. I mean, I don't know if it's, Is it him or is it Aaron's guy, Steichen, that's getting the most out of him here at this point, but they definitely found something. If you're a Giants fan, man, I, I got a bat as a Bears fan, but if you're a Giants fan, you watch Daniel Jones do this, you see Saquon go and win a Super bowl. When you, I mean, geez, it's rough. It's rough out there for Giants fans. [01:26:04] Speaker B: Well, that's what they needed, right? They just needed, like, a stable quarterback that wasn't make crazy mistakes, which is weird. Like, I don't know what's going on with the Giants day ball. Like, the better Daniel Jones looks, the more I think Dable should, you know, lose his job. [01:26:19] Speaker A: You're not Romans, kind of. Go ahead. [01:26:21] Speaker C: No, I'll say you're not wrong in that room because that was. Who's the OC for Buffalo right now? [01:26:28] Speaker A: Joe Brady. [01:26:29] Speaker C: Yeah. So he was coming up in the conversations for, like, head coaching jobs and stuff like that. And it's like, I'm just always very worried, wary of the, of the guy who's OC for like a generational quarterback like Josh Allen or, or like Lamar Jackson, like, because what is, what is this guy doing to get the most out of, you know, what we got here and, and day ball was what, you know, the second or third OC for Josh Allen. Like, did, you know? And so, I don't know a lot of questions when you take those guys. And that's when Brady, when Brady was coming up for the job interviews last year, I was like, man, I'm, I'm super wary of a guy like that because his success is really on you. Having a top three quarterback, top two quarterback in the league, and they've just never either got day ball, the pieces, or he hasn't got the most of kind of what he's had and you got a lot of questions there. But the Giants, I mean, it's been what, a decade at this point for like they get a couple, they get some stars, but everything around that doesn't turn into wins. I mean, between them and the Jets, I saw some stuff on Sports center with Scott Van Pelt and they were doing some and stuff. It's just literally how. How bad this jets and Giants run have been for like 10 plus years. [01:27:42] Speaker B: It's been pretty bad. [01:27:43] Speaker A: I mean, I think the Brian Dable, it's tough because he was at Alabama as an oc, helped him to a couple national titles. Then he goes to Buffalo, kind of re resurrects Josh Allen, kind of cleans up a little bit of them. I mean, Josh Allen, you know, obviously was getting better and stuff. So we did some good things there. [01:28:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:04] Speaker A: And then you get, you know, Saquon. The Giants were ready to give up on him. He had what, you know, ACL tear. I think he got hurt. Missed, you know, six games the next year. Daniel Jones hadn't looked great. And then he gets him to the playoffs. Not only that, they win a playoff game against who? Minnesota Vikings. Then they run into the Eagles, who were just, you know, the Eagles at the time. Were they like 15 and 1. 15 and 2 that year they got to the Super Bowl. Should have won that Super Bowl. [01:28:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:30] Speaker A: And then, you know, everybody's got high hopes for him and they. The bed. [01:28:36] Speaker B: Right. [01:28:36] Speaker A: Everybody kind of figured it out. So I think Brian Dable is, you know, he's getting a lot of heat there, but I don't think they've pit. I mean, their offensive line's not great. They've got rid of Saquon Barkley. Great running back. The running back situation is not much there. I mean, they got Scatterbo. He seems to be doing okay, you know, touching on Joe Brady. I mean, yeah, if you give Joe Brady an elite quarterback, he gets the best out of him. You guys gave him Joe Burrow, he turned him into a stud. You give him Josh Allen, he's taken him to another level. But then you put him in Carolina for Matt Rule with no talent and he's fired 15 games in or whatever it is. I like Joe Brady. He's. I. If I was the Titans, that's who I would call because I think he can turn Cam Ward has that generational talent possibility P. Some players around him and grow on that. So we'll see. We'll see. But I'm high on Joe Brady. He was probably my number three top Candidate behind Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen, his OCS last year, now he's at the top of that board. [01:29:31] Speaker C: Yeah, and I'm not trying to throw, you know, Joe Brady in the bus for that. I'm just saying when you, when you make a consideration as a head coach to hire the head coach, like what are you kind of getting in compliment to the entire organization? And like, yeah, I think the hard knocks off season has done the Giants no favors. If you remember what they were. They were talking about drafting different people and stuff like that. And it just made them look like not a great run franchise. I think, I think it was one of the kids of the coaches or whatever. Like you should draft so and so. [01:30:02] Speaker B: Oh, the kid was on the money on everybody. He mentioned, like, they're all studs in the NFL, right. [01:30:08] Speaker C: And so I, I think that probably has a lot, a lot to do with what's going on because you, you need overall talent besides what's going on in the, on the offensive side of ball. But like, there's timing things involved with this thing. And the hardest thing, the hardest thing about the NFL is like, you know, do you give a quarterback the time to develop? And then knowing is he the right guy I'm investing money in, that really turns your cap situation upside down because you get, hey, you get four years to make a decision before you, you know, are you having to do the fifth year option? And then do I need to move on and get, is this going to be the guy? Is I got to pay him X amount and then I can't get pieces around him or am I moving on to start from scratch? And then you got to the point where Daniel Jones is like, hey, we don't have the pieces around him to make him great. We got to move on and start with something fresh and start this thing from scratch. So it gets to the point where you're like more than, more than through this guy's tenure and you haven't done what you have and haven't surrounded him as a front office. That's the decisions you got to make. And then you look like idiots after the fact because, hey, you just plug and play into what they had in the Colts. The Colts had everything except it seems like the right guy at quarterback to take this team to the next level. [01:31:19] Speaker B: Well, he has a hell of a running back in Taylor. He had a monster game. They have some, some fighters on defense. Colts are gonna be a lot of fun this year, man. [01:31:27] Speaker A: Well, Colts, Colts have everything that Jason's. They've got a Great O line. They've got a great running back, good receivers, serviceable. Not like a 1A, but a lot of two guys but good. And then they got, they got an elite tight end coming in and Tyler Warner coming out. So. And now you got Shane Steichen. You know, say what you want. I mean every guy that he's worked with, like I said Herbert's first year, his was his best year until now. This year he turned Jalen Hurts into an mvp. Now he's taken Daniel Jones what he was good at, gave him some players and made the game simple and has turned him into right now a top 1215 quarterback. Looking good. I mean the Colts just didn't, they didn't even punt the ball till what, mid way through the second quarter in the third game of the year. I think that's got to be the longest stretch in the NFL. [01:32:14] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like what, four minutes in. Yeah. Or Horman slap. Pretty crazy. [01:32:18] Speaker C: So I mean, well, the, the Colts have literally been right about this team for about five years or so because they've had this, we kind of got everything except the quarterback. Since Andrew look retired, they've always maintained the like they were just gifted Peyton Manning for forever. They, then they, they have one bad year, they get Andrew Luck and then so when Luck unexpectedly retires, you had the one year of Jacoby Brissette. Right. And then that didn't work out and then so they were trying to do this like veteran one year plug and play strategy. [01:32:52] Speaker B: They brought Wentz. [01:32:53] Speaker C: Yeah, they bring and I mean Rivers and, and went to the two off the top. [01:32:58] Speaker A: Rivers had a good year. He did come to the playoffs. So. [01:33:01] Speaker B: That's right. [01:33:02] Speaker C: So they're, so they're doing that one year plug and play and then like okay, we need to go get someone and they trade up for Richardson and I, I think, oh, this guy's got a lot of talent like physical gifts. But did he have everything he needed to play quarterback in the NFL? That isn't just, you know, athletic ability and that's weren't they weren't seeing. But now, hey, you got a little bit of a veteran guy who couldn't, who didn't have all the, all the tools around him in, in New York. And now hey, like we're at a position where this is the right guy at the right time with what Aaron said, like great running back, serviceable by receivers, could be a really great tight end, an offensive line that keeps you upright and a defense that you know, for the most part they keep you in Every game. They're not overly shut down, but they're, they've been in every game so far. [01:33:46] Speaker A: Yeah, there was an interesting, there was an interesting stat Rome on the Colts, which I don't know if I'm getting it right or not, but they ranked like number 29th in defense last year and 28th in total offense, 29, total defense, 28 and still won eight games. Think about that. You're that badly ranked and still won eight games. Chris Ballard's done a great job pinning talent around this team. To me, the Colts are kind of like one of those teams like the LA Rams and all these guys that had great, they have great players and a good team. They just didn't have the quarterback. I don't know if Daniel Jones is an elite quarterback that I think can win a Super bowl, but they're going to win that division. Unless something crazy happens. They're going to host a playoff game and they're going to likely get to, you know, to the divisional round if things keep going the way they are. And another thing, Rome, I think we talked about it before on the phone. I don't know we ever talked about on the show. But do you just give up on a quarterback if you don't have a stud after five years instead of paying them like the Giants paid? They didn't want to pay Daniel Jones 4 years, 160 million because, you know, they just didn't have the pieces around them. Do you just get a quarterback for five years if he's not projected to be like an all pro hall of Famer? Do you just get off of them and redraft another quarterback or bring in serviceable guys for one year old veterans? Because Carson Wentz, let's be realistic, he wasn't bad for the Colts, just Ursay didn't like him and her say said get rid of them. He still won, what I think eight or nine games. They were, they got beat in the last game of the season that eliminated him from the playoffs. They could have stuck with them. Carson Wentz then goes to play the Rams, the Chiefs, and now he's back in the starting lineup, still looking pretty good. So you give these veteran quarterbacks some serviceable offensive coordinator, head coaches and they look pretty good. [01:35:29] Speaker B: Well, the word on the street is like a lot of people like Daniel Jones, his, his athleticism, his intangibilities, the Mannings, like I feel like New York was just too much. The, the media, all that stuff, the bad vibes took off to Minnesota, you know, probably enjoy that little Run. Seeing what, what, what Darnold was doing. Another quarterback that had to take, you know, bounce out of New York as well and then resurfaces with the Colts. I, I think it's really good story, really good quarterback. I don't know how good he is still, you know, like, like, he's like a big enigma, right? It's kind of like not as bad, but I'm getting like these weird golf vibes, you know, where like golf was like, is he good or is he not? And, and they, and they were still asking those questions, you know, six years into his career. But on another thing though, Colts and the new owner, she's on top of shit. She's like on every meeting on the sidelines. Seems like they, they're under really good hands. But the Titans though, Cam Ward, from what I saw, I didn't catch too much of the game, but enough to like, I kind of want to see how he did. He's really athletic, has an arm, made some plays, but the play calling, like, some of it's just like atrocious. And I think it was like one point in the game where they were trying to decide whether to go for it or not. They called a timeout, didn't know whether to kick a field goal or go for it. It was like a fourth down territory thing, run out of time again, called another timeout. It was pretty, it was rough. And then when they asked Callahan afterwards, like what happened, he's like, well, we just didn't know what to run. Like they have a bunch of time to run several plays and they just, they just shadow over himselves. Very eber floose like that's reminded me of. And I, I think funny things Steichen, I think end up on our hot seat last year at some point just because the turmoil around the Colts and like, you know, rumblings that he was losing the locker. So picture around there. But the Titans though, I don't think Callum was ever the good fit there and I think he's definitely gone by the end of this year. I, I think he, I think I mentioned in the beginning of the year, but he might be gone by Halloween, but I'm not really sure, but not a good fit there at all. [01:37:37] Speaker C: It's. The Titans were a roster that was always interesting during the entire variable era too because it always felt like they had Derrick Henry and he kind of just carried their offense and they played great in the trenches. The games were on a Thursday night and it was like 19 to 17 or something like that and the score would be. And so I, I think there's more with the overall like roster construction of this team that you need more than. Than just Cam Ward and you know, Tenors. [01:38:08] Speaker B: One year they were. [01:38:10] Speaker C: I was like. But you know, as you go through what this team has and what they need, I think there's a lot more there. It's going to kind of build on. To your point. Does. Does this coaching staff make it through that as they need a few more pieces? I think the forgiving thing is Aaron talks about this has always been a winnable division. Now this year maybe not as much so with the Colts, you know, maybe running away with it being three and oh right now but you know this has always been a winnable. Go ahead. [01:38:39] Speaker B: Do we still got the same GM that, that had the, the big ego fight with Rabel getting rid of all the players everybody liked? Same GM or a different gm? I can't remember. [01:38:50] Speaker C: I'm fairly certain they got rid of both of them. Right. [01:38:53] Speaker B: I got rid of Rabel first but I can't remember if the GM ever left. I'm just drawing a blank right now. We can circle back. Any other games should we talk touch on before we wrap things up? Steelers, Pats. I don't really know what to talk about on that game. [01:39:11] Speaker A: I mean the Pats gave that game away. Yeah, I mean Pat should have won that game. I mean Drake made a bad interception in the end zone. They fumble in the end zone. [01:39:20] Speaker B: Steelers have looked uninspiring. [01:39:23] Speaker A: The Steelers got lucky to win this that game. I mean we'll talk about it later in this week, but I think they're gonna get smoked in Dublin coming up this upcoming weekend against Vikings. Yeah, I think with that defense and the Steelers offense that's a bad recipe for the Steelers. But I mean I like the Patriots. I mean they've, you know, five turnovers that cost in the game. They don't have a lot of talent right now. [01:39:51] Speaker B: Went down for it on like some crazy 4th down calls. Like I think one was like on their own 20 and they didn't get it. It was like that was like some stuff that Rabel typically doesn't do. He's. Is he trying to pull off like a little Dan Campbell or what? [01:40:03] Speaker A: I think he's just. I mean look at that. They're not in win mode now. I mean if they can win, that's great. But I mean if you can get a top 1012 pick and get some more talent, I think that's what he wants to do. I mean, Mike Rabel is, you know, Jason, you guys just mentioned. I mean, he took the Titans with Derek Henry, Tannehill and A.J. brown to a conference championship game. And then you get to ran out of town and now you got Brian Callahan who doesn't know what, what hand is right and what hand is left. Now it seems like McCollum plays, so he's not going to last long there. I. I like where the Patriots, the direction they're going. They've got, you know, Craft's got his guy now in Brable, so they're going to be better. The Steelers, I know we talked about it. Tomlins never finished below.500. He's got Aaron Rodgers. It's. They could be in for a rough road, man. [01:40:52] Speaker B: Rogers is not so good. No, they haven't. It's a bunch of this defense. [01:40:57] Speaker A: They're. [01:40:58] Speaker B: They're just letting anyone score at will. [01:41:00] Speaker A: To me right now. I'm sure, Jason, you guys could touch on it. It's. To me, it's not a Pittsburgh Steelers unit. It's just like you said, Rome, big names with big personalities that think they can go and do the thing themselves. They're not a cohesive unit right now. They don't get it figured out. They could be in trouble. I mean, we talked to you guys talked about the Ravens. I mean, the Ravens could lose and keep losing a couple games because I don't think the Bengals situation is good. I don't think the Steelers situation good. And the Browns stink. You know, 9 and 8 could win you this division. 9 and 8 can win you this division. [01:41:32] Speaker B: That's a good point, man, because you got like the two best defense that everyone thinks about, the Ravens and Steelers. They're not looking great right now. They're letting anyone score. Browns have a really good defense. They just don't. [01:41:45] Speaker A: They can't score. [01:41:45] Speaker B: They can't score. So they might actually. Might be a little more competitive than we thought they were. And Bengals are just a mess without Joe Burrow. So, like, can they just float around to win the division? You're right. I thought that was the toughest division, but it might be like the most like, what the fuck division right now. It's. It. It's crazy. [01:42:03] Speaker C: I'll say. Like, as. As it typically is in September, there's a lot of like, yeah, big offensive stuff going on. The weather's good. You know, once late fall starts coming, we start playing some like, nasty games in Pittsburgh. Cleveland and I want it. And. And Baltimore, like, the offense is generally a little, A little Less high fly. You know, defenses show out a little more, A little more banged up on the offensive lines and things like that or you don't have. I mean I think it's still there for Pittsburgh. I don't think it's super bowl probably worthy, but I don't know if we ever saw, think the Steelers were the threat to the super bowl coming out of that division. But I, it's, it's. I think it's a patented like Thomas gonna get above by 100. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. [01:42:48] Speaker A: Can they win a playoff game? [01:42:52] Speaker B: I'm always hoping, man. I'm always hoping. I, I do like the Metcalf and Rogers thing though. That's looking, looking kind of nice. [01:42:58] Speaker A: I mean the Steelers got a tough schedule, guys. I mean I'm looking at it. I mean they got Minnesota, they got the buy, they get Cleveland at home, but then at Cincinnati, Green Bay, Indianapolis Chargers, Cincinnati, Chicago, Buffalo, Baltimore. I mean this. [01:43:11] Speaker B: Oh, it's brutal, dude. It's tough. Yeah. [01:43:14] Speaker A: So they got, they got to get their act together quick, man. They do, dude. [01:43:19] Speaker B: It's a, it's a tough schedule. [01:43:21] Speaker A: I mean they, right now, they would, they would flip flop with the 49ers to the Buffalo Bill schedule right now if they had a do over. [01:43:27] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. 100. 100. Dude, I didn't even look at their schedule. Geez, looks rough. I, I do want to go when they visit the Chargers though. It's right around my birthday. Be nice. All right. We didn't talk about Kansas City and Giants, but I don't think we got to too much. Right? It is what it is. Russell's bye bye rookie starts this week against a tough Chargers team. They couldn't wait like an extra week before they face Saints or anything or. [01:44:01] Speaker C: I was a little surprised by that because no, Jamis, that's the other thing. And I wanted to talk about a little bit of, talk about like where the trade rumors came up about James going to Cincinnati and man, do I want to see that. [01:44:15] Speaker B: Oh, I was gonna bring that up. [01:44:19] Speaker C: Yeah. It came out, it was last week and I thought they were for totally going to pull it, pull this trigger because it was coming off the Russell Wilson, you know, 400 plus yard passing game and I was like, what do we need a third, you know, third string quarterback with Jamis. We're not even dressing him out because Jackson darts the backup and man, you, you give Jameis, you know, Higgins and Chase and you know, I mean there may be two, three turnovers, but man, he's going to be chucking the ball. I mean, that's, that's a show I want to see. [01:44:47] Speaker B: Dude. He's getting at least four touchdowns, two interceptions, 400 yards. That'd be pretty fun. [01:44:52] Speaker A: It's going, it's going back to his Tampa days. What, 5,000 yards passing, leading the league in interceptions and passing yards. [01:44:59] Speaker B: 30 touchdowns, 30 interceptions. That look the weirdest stat. Yeah, 5,000 yards or something like that, right? That's crazy. [01:45:04] Speaker C: I, I know Cincinnati believes in Jake Browning and stuff, but man, like, I, I just think you kick the tires on that, you even a little more now. I don't know if the Giants holding all three of these guys is the answer, but I, you know, I, the going to Jackson Dart again was a thing too. Is like everyone, everyone in New York wants him to start. I don't know if it's the right thing because the Chargers. Yeah, the Chargers. I would have maybe waited for the Saints, but like you guys said earlier, Saints not exactly easy playing in New Orleans. And so is there a right time to, to have him do this game? I, I, if you're going to go away from Russ, I don't know why you're not giving the Jamis to start at this point too. So I, I think saving him or something because yeah, I'm, I'm more rooting for the Jamis going to Cincinnati, to be honest with you. [01:45:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I think Jamis to Cincinnati makes sense. I've seen some people float out, even Russell Wilson going to Cincinnati, but that's, that's not going to happen. It's not happening. I, I mean, this isn't a favorable matchup of Dart, but it's a home game. The home crowd wants to see him. So it's better to play him at home in an opener versus on the road. I just prefer to see my quarterback having home opening game versus the road one. Even though it's against a tough defense, that he's gonna give him some problems and concerns. And the crowd wants it, right? I mean, we all heard the game on Sunday night. All you heard was booze, boo, boo, boo. And then when Dart would come out, he would just hand the ball off. Nothing but cheers. The crowd wants to see him. I don't know if he's gonna look great against the Chargers. It's a tough defense to look good against. Hopefully they got more than just, hey, neighbors, you go deep and we'll throw it up. But Dart looked good in preseason, but that was preseason. I think he'll have some, I Think he's gonna look a lot like a J.J. mcCarthy did, where he'll have moments where you go, okay, yeah, I think this guy can make some throws and play. [01:46:48] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah. [01:46:50] Speaker A: And then he's gonna, then he's gonna probably throw like a couple interceptions where it's like, that's a rookie mistake against a veteran, complicated defense of the Chargers have. [01:47:00] Speaker B: Chargers are going to New York. I think that's a possibility that they can kind of trip up. They've had three really close games. You know, it's, it's a long season, so it could be, it could be one. [01:47:10] Speaker A: It is. It's the old trap spot in the NFL Travel. Yeah. So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. [01:47:18] Speaker B: On the lines this week. That'll be really fun to cover. Any last Comments on Week 3 in the NFL? We actually covered a lot more than we usually do. Hour and 20 minutes. Wow, you guys are impressed. [01:47:32] Speaker C: I just think, I just don't know. Well, I mean, you get us going, Rome. We just, you know, we're talking football, we're chatting it up. I, I, the blocked field goals, just the craziness of the, the witching hour at that moment. What was going on at the end of those games? I think it was, it was a week to kind of remember what you're getting when you're getting down to it. So, so interesting things that affected lines and some of the bets and definitely you guys are the big, bigger winners early on in the game, but I think you remember, but, you know, you're already on to the next week. The storylines change in the NFL very quickly. We talked about the biggest losers, you know, some of the biggest winners. And, you know, there's probably some unexpected stuff coming up in, in when you get to the NFL. Like injuries start taking place and all these things start. Managed quarterbacks are going down and then you'll have like, you know, your Niners over there. Rome, like, I know you all, your Niner friend fans are all freaking out, but, you know they're going to luck themselves into like 10, 11 wins with their schedule they're at. And you're not going to know how they did it. So. [01:48:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:48:33] Speaker B: And there's a chance that they can get a lot of guys back to at the end of the season, kind of like start forming out like that week 16 mark. [01:48:40] Speaker A: Well, we didn't even, we didn't even talk about it. Rome, they did lose Nick Bolson for the season when they did. [01:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that kind of takes away, like. [01:48:45] Speaker A: They'Re that defensively, defensively they're, you know, they've let a lot of guys go. Greenlaw, he's gone to Denver. The safety's gone to Denver. [01:48:56] Speaker B: They let someone go to Jacksonville. [01:48:59] Speaker A: They've let a lot of guys go. Bosa was kind of, you know, the guy. I mean, Sal has done a great job. He's been a great defensive coordinator in this league and running defenses, you know, touching back on last things. I mean, yeah, the blocks, field goals Jason mentioned. I mean I was out. I was like Aaron Glenn seeing all those blocked field goals. I had my little juke dance going because we got a lot of backdoor covers with those jets coming through on the six and a half, the Eagles on the three and a half. So it was, it was wild. The NFL and you know, as I, as Jason said it best. Next I'm, next question. I'm on to week four. So let's, let's get ready for it because week three is in the past and hope hopefully we can all get a above.500 week here in the pros. I mean college, we're doing good, but the pros have been, they've been kicking our ass. [01:49:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Been kicking our ass. Oh yeah. Be sure to listen to our podcast on YouTube. Subscribe, give us a rating on Apple podcasts. Give us a five star rating. We need more ratings. More reviews you guys share with anyone you guys know. We need more ratings to boost up the visibility. Same thing on Spotify. Give us a five star rating as well. And cast some clips coming out this episode later this week. We have games of the week, Aaron's week five. Games of the week for college football. We may have a special guest for that pod or for our NFL Lions that comes out after that. Both clips. College football will get its own episode. NFL Lines will get its own episode, both up on YouTube. So be on the lookout for that source from the sofa. We are out.