Special NBA Edition Part 2: Thunder, Suns, and the Western Conference

November 13, 2024 00:55:26
Special NBA Edition Part 2: Thunder, Suns, and the Western Conference
Sources from the Sofa
Special NBA Edition Part 2: Thunder, Suns, and the Western Conference

Nov 13 2024 | 00:55:26

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In part 2 of this special NBA edition pod; Rome, Aaron, and Jaeson tackle the Western Conference by first eliminating teams with a small chance of making much noise for the 2024/25 season, before going over the rest of the conference with some surprise picks and locks for the year. The guys dish out their respective Western Conference Final predictions before capping the two-part pod with NBA Finals predictions (49:09) and other basketball ramblings such as Adam Silver and the newly dubbed Emirates Cup.
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[00:00:01] Speaker A: Guys, we're back with part two NBA special NBA edition from Sources from the Sofa. If you didn't catch part one, this is, this was supposed to be a quick one hour recording podcast NBA preview. Granted, we are two and a half, three weeks into the season already by the time this goes up. Might be like another week. But we go over over unders for both conferences. In part one you will find the Eastern Conference talking about Celtics, Eastern Conference final previews, who's going to be in the playoffs, all that good Jazz. And this is part two Western Conference talking about the same thing. Who's, who's rising up to the top? It's a loaded west, man. I go on a few rants about my Lakers. I'm happy, I'm not happy, I'm happy, I'm not happy. I do like the JJ Reddick higher though. So excuse me Laker fans for me hating on my own team. We got Western Conference final picks at the end of this one and then some NBA final predictions which you might be surprised, you might not, but this is part two of Sources from the Sofa's special two part NBA podcast. We hope you enjoy. Cheers. Now we're back with the Western Conference. That was kind of fun going over the East. Didn't expect it to go that long. I thought we were going to knock this out one hour. But you know, let's knock out the teams that are not going to make the playoffs. Let's start from there. If you want we can briefly go over their over unders. Just we make some key predictions but not go too much, too much detail. Who's not going to the playoffs guys? [00:01:43] Speaker B: Utah. [00:01:46] Speaker A: I'll write that down. Utah. I think spurs are not going to playoffs either. [00:01:50] Speaker C: Right? Well right now, I mean it's the west is so deep. I'm looking at the five teams right now in the west, not in the playoffs. Clippers, Spurs, Trailblazers, Pelicans, Jazz. Those are the five teams right now, not in the playoffs. [00:02:05] Speaker B: I mean Rome said Spurs. I think, I think Portland's up there too. [00:02:09] Speaker C: Yeah, Portland's there. Spurs, Portland, Pelicans, Jazz and Clippers. And I'm gonna say all five of those. Don't. I'm gonna agree. I think the teams that are right now in the top 10 are all going to finish in the top 10. [00:02:25] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I think talk to disagree because the top who's in the top 10 right now are really good teams. [00:02:32] Speaker A: So let's just go over quick, over and unders just to kind of review this real quick. We Got Utah. We crossed off. They are 28 and a half over, under. They won last year 31 games. 31. Yeah. [00:02:51] Speaker C: I'll take under. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Under 28, huh? [00:02:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I'd agree. [00:02:56] Speaker B: I'd agree with Aaron. Even that 31 last year. Like, didn't they come out of the box like hot? And it was. [00:03:02] Speaker C: I don't know if it was last year or the year before. They're like 12 and three. Remember, they came out hot. I don't know if it was last year or the year before, but yeah, they came out in these. [00:03:10] Speaker B: I'm bleeding. These years together, we're supposed to be tanking and all of a sudden they're winning games. [00:03:15] Speaker A: You know, I know they have some pretty decent talent. I'm gonna go. [00:03:18] Speaker C: Just lost. Was it the rookie player that did. They just lost for what? Fractured fibula for the season. They just lost somebody. [00:03:27] Speaker A: Here, pull it up real quick. Well, they got Mark, you know, Laurie Markin, he. The guy's a beast. They got. They added Patty Mills, which doesn't have. [00:03:36] Speaker C: Much left, man, he's. [00:03:39] Speaker A: They got rid of Westbrook. [00:03:42] Speaker C: We had a big game tonight. [00:03:43] Speaker A: I'm kind of bullish on. On the Jazz, though. [00:03:45] Speaker C: I. I do like Jordan Clarkson. [00:03:47] Speaker A: I'm gonna go over on that. [00:03:48] Speaker B: Taylor. Taylor Hendricks was the one who went around surgery for a broken right leg and dislocated ankle. [00:03:53] Speaker A: Pelicans, they were. What city do they live in? [00:04:00] Speaker C: New Orleans? [00:04:02] Speaker A: 46 and a half. They wonder. 49 games last year. Under. [00:04:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:08] Speaker A: Is this time to blow it up? [00:04:09] Speaker B: I feel like Zion has been wanting to get out of there since he got drafted. [00:04:13] Speaker A: Yeah. You got under two, Jason. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Trailblazers. Portland. Which fun city to visit, by the way. [00:04:23] Speaker C: Love Portland, man, but I would like to go back. 21 and a half they want. I'll take over, man. I'll take over 21 and a half. They go in 22 games. At least 22 and 60 put me down for over 21. [00:04:37] Speaker A: I got them as a 26 win team. I think they'll get better. They have some young guys. Right. I just don't know if Chauncey's the coach for them long term. Jason, who you got over. Under. [00:04:48] Speaker B: I'll take the over two. [00:04:50] Speaker C: This Chauncey's 30 year in Portland. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Which I don't know how the hell he got the job, to be honest with you. [00:04:57] Speaker C: He did a good job announcing on tv. Dude, he wasn't that good. [00:05:01] Speaker A: That one's a weird one. [00:05:03] Speaker C: No, I mean, he was a top assistant there for Ty Lou, Right. For the Clippers, when the Clippers were so I believe, you know. And he was a good leader for the Pistons there as a player. And, you know, he did some tv. He was a good assistant coach. And Portland, I forget why they moved off of Terry Stouts. You know, I forget what that whole scandal was. Or maybe he just kind of walked away. Health. I don't. I don't remember. Something happened there. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Little bit of both. Just not enough winning, you know, coming up short. They're kind of blaming him for that. [00:05:35] Speaker C: Well, they did just like they just got into the Western Conference finals against the Warriors a few years. [00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah, no, no, they did great. They just couldn't get over that last hump. But also they had like the Rockets, you know, like rockets that. When they should have won one or two of those championships away from the goal. [00:05:52] Speaker C: Portland, like you mentioned, Rome's a great basketball town. That's cool. But they've just ran into like the hardest, baddest luck ever. They ran into the Lakers, they ran into the Keens. They ran into the great MJ Pippen. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Yeah, just bad luck. [00:06:05] Speaker C: Too bad. [00:06:06] Speaker A: I feel bad, man. [00:06:07] Speaker C: And I love the city of Portland. I like to see him better. [00:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fun. [00:06:10] Speaker C: The old Rose Garden, man. The old Rose Garden. I don't know what it's called now, but that's what I remember as a kid. [00:06:15] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:06:16] Speaker B: I don't know. You're sounding like Shooter McGavin and Happy Gilmore. I love the city of Portland every time I go there. [00:06:24] Speaker C: Let's talk Happy Gilmore. Two is coming, man. It's coming. [00:06:27] Speaker A: It is hopefully good. [00:06:29] Speaker B: We can do a movie review on the. The soon to be debuted movie pod. You know, we could do it. [00:06:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's talk Clippers before we go to Spurs. Just because I'm not a big fan of the Clippers. I don't care too much for them. I don't care too much about their new wall. Intuit Dome allegedly looks legit, though. They kept Harden, obviously. They kept Zubach, which I thought the Lakers should have kept them, to understand why they gave him away for peanuts. [00:06:58] Speaker C: Give him away for a steak and a bottle of wine, dude, basically. [00:07:02] Speaker A: Was that Pelinka's first trade or is that Johnson when he's like shat the bed for one year and then blamed it on Polinka? [00:07:10] Speaker C: I think it was Magic, dude. I want to say it was Magic. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Magic. By the way, Magic was at the parade, front and center at the daughter parade. And my. My cousins got really good Photos. I'm tired of seeing Magic Johnson taking all the credit for every team. [00:07:25] Speaker C: He's in Washington now too. Celebrating. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Vicky, one of the part owners, he's like, I'm really proud of my guy, Jaden Daniels. I'm like, ever since he threw the. The Lakers underneath the bus, I'm just not a big Magic guy. And you know, like. Anyways, back to the Clippers. They lost Paul George. It was either George or Harden. And Westbrook's out, Plumley's out. They picked up Don Porter Jr. He's on the team. [00:07:54] Speaker C: Next one from Portland, huh? The brother or what? [00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:01] Speaker C: Wait, wait. Porter, Kevin. [00:08:02] Speaker A: Kevin porter. Kevin Porter Jr. Yeah. No, his brother's now serving jail time, which. [00:08:08] Speaker C: Well, one of the brothers is. Yeah, yeah, I did see, you know, I did see a familiar face on the bench. Jeff Van Gundy, man, assistant coach for the Clippers. Good to see him, man. It's good to see him again. [00:08:17] Speaker A: That's a good pickup, actually. Really good. Really good pickup, huh? [00:08:20] Speaker C: Maybe. Maybe their best off season pickup right there. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Well, they're over under 35 and a half and they won 47 game. No, 51 games last year. Geez. [00:08:33] Speaker B: A lot of love. Well, I mean, when Norman Powell is your leading scorer through seven games right now, I think that's why there's not a lot of love. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Well, Harden's playing pretty good, but Norman. [00:08:47] Speaker B: Powell's still the repeating score. [00:08:48] Speaker A: Yeah, you got over Aaron. [00:08:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll take the over. [00:08:52] Speaker B: I'm taking the under. [00:08:57] Speaker A: Wow. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:58] Speaker C: Norman Powell, 25 points a game. We don't know when Kawhi's coming back. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Obviously he's not playing, dude, he's. He's been. Yeah, this is tough. I'm gonna. 35. They should win more than 35 if they have Kawhi at least for like 30 games. [00:09:17] Speaker C: They feel to me like a 38 win team. If everybody gets right and healthy, they're. They got some players still and they're well coached. Lose a good coach. Just mentioned Jeff, Ben Gundy. They can. I think they can mustered out. If Kawhi comes back and plays enough game, they can muster out 40, 42 wins. But I'll say they get the 38. I'll take the over. 35 and a half. [00:09:37] Speaker A: Cool. I'm leaning on the over, but not sold. I wouldn't bet on this one at all. Spurs real quick. 35 and a half. Same as the Clippers. They won what, 21 games last year. Now they're pretty exciting. 22 games. My bad. They got. Wemby who is dominant in, you know, in the Olympic Games, I think. Sorry. Leading the league in blocks. The guy's a beast. He's stronger, he's quicker. He's shooting threes more efficiently. Got some nice spin move that he added to his game. But I think they should be tanking just to kind of, you know, get another high draft pick here. 35 and a half might get them, like, what, the 12th seed? [00:10:23] Speaker C: That's where they're at right now. [00:10:25] Speaker A: 12. [00:10:26] Speaker C: I got. I'll take under 35 and a half. [00:10:29] Speaker A: Of the spurs under. [00:10:31] Speaker C: They'll get 30, I think they get. [00:10:33] Speaker A: Paul's looking a little older. [00:10:35] Speaker C: Well, Paul's older than us guys. I think he's about our age, but, yeah, he's been around since we've been around. [00:10:42] Speaker A: And I don't even know what the health scare with Papa, but it doesn't sound like he's gonna be back anytime soon. [00:10:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. They haven't said, but. Yeah, they haven't. [00:10:50] Speaker A: Sounds serious. [00:10:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I. I'd go under, too, I think. You know, Wemby's still growing, you know, as a player in the league. Harrison Barnes, Chris Paul, I mean, this is like. This is like the remnants of the warriors from five years ago at this point. [00:11:09] Speaker A: You're right. You're right. In the meantime, I'll go from top to bottom with the current standings right now for the rest of the league. Or do you guys want to end with a Thunder? You guys want to start with a Thunder and with a Thunder. Thunder on Fire. Right now. Seven, zero. They're over. Under is 57 and a half. They won 57 games last year. That's pretty ballsy. That's a high number. But they're loaded, man. They're loaded with talent. And depending on what you think about sga, is he like top three, top five player in the NBA, going to take another step and dominate. They had, like, a tough loss in the playoffs last year. You got to figure like, those are all growing pains and they're going to be coming back hungrier than ever. They kind of look like a 61 team. I'm not gonna lie. They, in my opinion, they might be the best, deepest team in the NBA. Maybe even better than the Celtics. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Yeah, they're good. They're getting a lot of love. This would be a tough one for me to actually go out and bet. I would probably stay away, but if I were to lean one way or the other, I would say the over two. You mentioned the growing pains. Still a young team and Generally in the NBA, you know, you take those lumps in the playoffs, you know, you have a second round exit, you lose a conference final, you get to the finals. So I think this is them putting their foot down in the regular season, being the number one seed, going to the playoffs and taking the next step and get beyond where they were last year. [00:12:41] Speaker A: I forgot Gordon Hayward retired, so he was on the team last year, but giddy. He. He's now with the Bulls. That. That's your guy, Aaron. But they added Caruso. I think that's like the biggest pickup for him to come off the bench when he's legitimate. What, Alex Carso and Parkinson Hartenstein? Yeah, a baller. So they got hurt. [00:13:03] Speaker C: Right now he is hurt. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Yeah. But to have Alex Caruso coming off the bench and running that second unit, that's. This is like, I don't know, it's crazy. [00:13:15] Speaker C: Yeah, the Thunder had depth last year, but they didn't have size. Now with Hartenstein, they add size coming from the Knicks, right? [00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the Knicks too. [00:13:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Crusoe's a big guard too. Like he's long, lanky, 6465. That's why LeBron liked them. Caruso reminds me of an old. He fit in perfect actually with the Bulls because he's an old Phil Jackson, like big, tall, lengthy guard. Oh, Jackson that could defend, shoot spot threes. Perfect. 57 and a half. You mentioned they feel like a 60 win team. 61, 62. To me, they're the team that's actually going to win the most games in the NBA in the regular season. So I would take the over for sure. [00:13:57] Speaker A: All right. [00:13:58] Speaker C: Even though they lost tonight to Denver, their first loss of the year, two point loss. Your boy Westbrook went off. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah, Denver's interesting. We'll get to them. Suns 48 and a half. They won 49 games last year. We already know about their triple dragon threat, Durant, Bradley Beal, who for some reason considered a superstar, though he hasn't really played that much, you know, in our lifetime. He had like, what, two good years? He has a big contract. And then of course they have Booker. So it's an interesting team. [00:14:34] Speaker B: Obviously, new coach, early playoff legs at last year, a lot of controversy about Durant and I. I brought Durant up at the Heat. Probably doesn't seem likely. You leave a seven in one team to go to the Heat, but at the same time, this is where, you know, there's always something swirling around Durant, but a lot, a lot of. A lot of investment into this team. Draft picks given up for this first to work on paper, this is a team that should be competing, you know to go to the Western Conference Final. 7 and 1. Great start so far. Over under at start of this year you had 48 and a half and they won 49 last year. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Feels like it should be the over. I know we're getting to it. Eight games into the season with them sitting at 7 1. It looks like a good bet. Could just depend. You mentioned Beal, his health and then you know. How many games is Durant play and do we putting too much on Booker? [00:15:35] Speaker A: Not sure. A lot of people think this is one of the better teams in the NBA. Huh? [00:15:41] Speaker C: I'm one of them. [00:15:42] Speaker A: You're one of them. [00:15:43] Speaker C: I'm bullish on Phoenix. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I kind of disagree. But they're loaded with talent. They didn't upgrade their coach. I really like Vogel. Just Vogel didn't fit with these pieces and in this time frame. But now they got Mike who offensive prowess and that's obviously. You see the Bucks the way they look without Mike under the helm. So yeah, probably over what, 52 wins, maybe 55. [00:16:08] Speaker C: I like to. I think they get 55 wins, 54, 55 over. You guys said Western Conference. To me they're the second best team in the West. If everybody's right, I'm big on Phoenix. Is this your luck the finish number get the two seed? [00:16:25] Speaker A: No, just lock on. On the over. [00:16:27] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Lock on the over. [00:16:29] Speaker A: You're picking them as a two seed. [00:16:31] Speaker C: I think they're going to possibly get the two seed. Yeah. I like them coming on the over even. You know, they are seven and one right now. But I like the forehand. Their only loss was against the Lakers a game they were up 20 points here at the old crypto. So they got a couple wins against the Clippers. Clippers are tough. They play tough. It's tough to win games in the NBA sometimes with all these young teams. You never know what you're going to get. They've played a lot of back to backs but they did some nice additions. The coach picked up the point guard that was a backup there and what Memphis for a while. [00:17:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:02] Speaker C: So they got some more depth on their team. [00:17:04] Speaker B: I feel we glossed over the fact that Romans on a first name basis with the head coach of the Phoenix Suns, we just. [00:17:12] Speaker A: I can't pronounce his last name. [00:17:20] Speaker B: They brought Mike in, you know, and Mike this. I'm like, man, does he know Coach Budenholzer Like, I don't know, maybe we're just calling him Mike. [00:17:27] Speaker A: That's really funny. I'm glad you like Jason. Throw me underneath the bus. [00:17:34] Speaker B: No, I, I, I, maybe, maybe you and Mike are close, you know. You know. [00:17:40] Speaker A: I really liked him on the Bucks and then I thought he didn't do enough and Aaron was right. Aaron was right on that one. [00:17:47] Speaker C: Well, yeah, I mean, Boonhauser comes from the Popovich tree. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:52] Speaker C: He went to Atlanta. He did a great job in a great job Atlanta. I mean he had, you know, Al Horford, all those guys, top four team every year. But you know, that was kind of the Miami Heat prime. The Pacers with George and all those guys were kind of. [00:18:07] Speaker A: I love those Pacers teams. They should have. [00:18:11] Speaker C: And then he just, he moved on Milwaukee brought them a title and you had the bubble. They got what, swept. Yeah, I think they got swept in the bubble. And then the next year. Yeah, then the next year Giannis gets hurt in Game 1 against Miami and they get the. Was a gentleman sweeping five and then they moved off them. [00:18:34] Speaker A: Yeah, not a good move. Talk about teams that should have won a couple championships and just got bad luck. As well as the Pacers. That team with on our test. Right. They were the best in the NBA that year. And the mouse in the palace and that totally derailed that whole season. That team was loaded. And then they retool, regroup with. Yeah, Paul George. I can't remember who else was on that team, but they were fun owned LeBron but Stevenson. Yeah, I really love that team too. He was one of my favorite players when he was playing. I love the antics. Anyways, Golden State Warriors 43 and a half was their over under. Obviously they're off to a hot start. They're looking really awesome right now. They won 46 games last year. Just can't stand the Warriors. I like the Warriors. They're. They were fun to root for until they started buying those championships with Durant. I don't know why I'm such a hater because not like my teams don't do that. But. [00:19:37] Speaker C: Wait, so you're, you're saying in a salary cap error, a team is buying championships, yet your Dodgers got a billion dollar payroll and you just, you're just, you're quiet on that. No, that's all good. [00:19:50] Speaker A: Baseball's a foot into it. Yeah. [00:19:56] Speaker C: It's a regional sport. [00:19:57] Speaker A: I'm gonna send you guys a clip to justify my baseball take. [00:20:00] Speaker B: They signed a free. So the warriors signed a free agent underneath the salary cap to make their, like, 73 win team never went. [00:20:08] Speaker A: They should have won. Thunder should have beat. [00:20:10] Speaker B: You're not wrong, but that's not a reason I hate the warriors, but that's. [00:20:13] Speaker A: My reason to hate them. [00:20:14] Speaker B: All right, well. [00:20:17] Speaker A: They lost Chris Paul, Klay Thompson's gone to the Mavs, which he's playing pretty good with the mouse so far. [00:20:25] Speaker B: I don't know Aaron, though, buddy, buddy healed upgrade over Klay Thompson, though. I mean, I, I, I agree, I agree. [00:20:31] Speaker C: That's not a hot take either. I agree. [00:20:33] Speaker A: Definitely an upgrade, especially defensively. So over under. [00:20:42] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, tough for us, to be honest, at this. At 4, it was at 43 and a half. They were at the start. [00:20:49] Speaker A: I would have probably said right around there for 42 wins for them. [00:20:54] Speaker B: I mean, if put them at their record right now, though. I don't even know if 43 and a half's there. That that's got to be higher. Right now. [00:21:02] Speaker C: They're what, seven and one? [00:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:04] Speaker B: They're 71. Yeah. [00:21:05] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. [00:21:07] Speaker C: I, I mean, I, I, I told run before I like the Warriors. You had them? I had them about a 48 win team, so I would take the over. They're right now projected. What do they got? I'm at Warriors. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Jason, did you have over for the 75? [00:21:21] Speaker C: Right now they got him at 55. [00:21:23] Speaker A: I would not bet that at all. [00:21:24] Speaker B: I'd go under that. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I go under. [00:21:27] Speaker C: I go under that too. I feel like they're a 48, maybe 50 win team to me. Like, you know, Jason said upgrade there. Getting rid of Thompson. They're a little more younger, a little more quicker, a little more athletic, and they've always played small ball. And they still got Steph Curry. Draymond seems to have his headspace. Good. Remember he was thinking about retiring and suspended 12 games or whatever they, you know, in house. Well ran organization. Steve Kerr knows what he's doing with the team. They'll get a four or five seat, maybe in the West. [00:21:59] Speaker A: Really pretty ballsy. Take Rockets 43 and a half over under. They won 41 games last year. They hired Boston's coach. How do you pronounce his name? I don't want to butcher this one either. [00:22:18] Speaker C: Let me look. Udoka. [00:22:21] Speaker A: Udoka, yeah, he, he made them really competitive last year. That was a really good hire. He should have never been fired from the Celtics. But what was the scandal again? Like, what happened? Like, yeah, he got a massage from someone's wife or something. Oh, he was banging everyone's wife. That's right. That's why he got fired. I totally forgot he was banging all the executives wives and even some of his coaches wives. What a. Maybe not a good person, but a good coach. [00:22:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Why some people are out watching the movie the town. He was. He was putting in work in the town, if you catch my drift on that one. [00:22:55] Speaker A: He really was, dude. Once all that stuff came out and his wife is. I had a crush on her growing up. [00:23:01] Speaker C: Weren't they kind of like in the open relationship too? Kind of low key. [00:23:05] Speaker B: I think that's what people said to excuse whatever was going on there. [00:23:09] Speaker A: But her Instagram post did not look like they were on an open relationship. She was not happy all that came out. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I. You know, you could. You could say what you want, but in the any. In a corporate environment anywhere else, like. [00:23:21] Speaker A: It'S frowned upon us. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Frowned upon. You're getting called to hrs. So. I mean, even in the. I. I think there was some other stuff about the workplace and stuff like that. And that's just like in sports it's always very dismissive. But if you work at any other company in the world, you know stuff around the workplace like that, you're out. So. [00:23:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's funny. They didn't really add much. They just kind of resigned. Their guys, Jalen, Green, Holiday, they picked up H8 Griffin from the Hawks. Either way though, I think they're going to improve. I got the over and I think. [00:24:02] Speaker C: I'm gonna go with 43 and a half. You got. [00:24:05] Speaker A: I think they're off. I think they're a 44, 45 win team. What's the update now on them? [00:24:11] Speaker C: I. I agree. I think they're 44, 45 win team. I would lean over. [00:24:16] Speaker B: Is this still 43 and a half? [00:24:20] Speaker C: They're a 40 right now. That right now. Their projections. 40 wins. [00:24:25] Speaker A: They're not an under.500 team. They're better than that. [00:24:29] Speaker B: I don't know about much more than that. [00:24:30] Speaker C: I. [00:24:31] Speaker B: If it's 43 and a half, you're saying the preseason line. I would go under 41, 42. [00:24:35] Speaker A: Okay, I'm with you, Rome. [00:24:38] Speaker C: I think they get 44, maybe 45 wins. [00:24:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but they're. [00:24:43] Speaker C: They're right. They're right. [00:24:45] Speaker A: They're right there. Yeah, that's a. That's a good. [00:24:46] Speaker C: That's one. That's one. I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet, man. [00:24:49] Speaker A: I would put my house on it now. And if coach can keep his dick in his pants, you know, things should be fine. [00:24:57] Speaker C: It's Houston, man. That's tough down there. It's tough. A lot of the players like it down there. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Do they? I've never been to Houston. I've always wanted to visit. I don't know. [00:25:07] Speaker C: Harness got his jersey retired over there at the strip club. Got that WWE belt hanging up there, too, you know. [00:25:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I stay away from party cities, man. I'm already wilding out here in San Francisco and la, you know, I don't need Miami or Houston. You definitely. [00:25:24] Speaker C: If you weren't a weekend in Miami room, I don't think we'd see you for a month. [00:25:29] Speaker A: I think you're probably right. I think you're probably right. Mavs. Let's go with the Mavs. Obviously picked up Clay Thompson. That was a big pickup. They're the Dallas Mavericks, right? Yeah, blank right now. Resigned Morris, they picked up Din Whittle, Klay Thompson. Those are the big ones. They did lose Hardaway Jr. Depending on how you feel about that. Josh Green as well, to the Hornets. Hornets are weird. [00:26:04] Speaker C: Where did Hardaway Jr go? We were just talking about him the other day. [00:26:06] Speaker A: Trade to the Pistons. [00:26:08] Speaker C: That's right. [00:26:15] Speaker A: Every time I hear the word Dallas. I was here about Debbie Does Dallas, but I don't know where that phrase comes from, though. Debbie does Dallas. I don't. Does anybody know what. Where's that phrase from? [00:26:29] Speaker B: I don't know, but I'm not Googling it. [00:26:31] Speaker A: Okay. I've never Googled it. I. [00:26:34] Speaker C: Are we doing over under for Dallas, for Dallas Mavericks wins or for Debbie does, you know, in a year, man. [00:26:42] Speaker A: Is that like a porno? See, I didn't grow up watching pornos or anything. I don't go to strip clubs. That. That's out of my. That's not me. [00:26:50] Speaker B: It's not him. [00:26:53] Speaker C: Well, 49 and a half, but I'll go over Dallas. 49 and a half. [00:26:59] Speaker A: I won 50 games last year. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so, too. Definitely with Clay have it. Just having, you know, just an overall upgrade of the team while, you know, downgrade for. We were talking through with Buddy. He'll be in an upgrade over him and Golden State. But I think this is. This is a shooter for, you know, Luca and Kyrie to, you know, space the floor a little better. Yeah, I. I think I go over too. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Cool. Let's do the Timberwolves, which. I love them. I like their team. They're over. Under is 52 and a half. They won 56 games last year. Had a nice run. I thought they were going to go to the finals. And then things fell apart from There I think they just got out coached and it was a bunch of young guys. The lights were really big and they kind of went away from the game plan of how they destroyed Denver the previous round. Obviously they got Julius Randall. I think that's a really big pickup for them. As well as Dante DiVincenzo from the Knicks. Got some grittiness. I think Minnesota is a pretty gritty team. They did lose some key guys. Cat, their main one, but 52 and a half, man, I think they got to be better. [00:28:23] Speaker B: I disagree. I think they're going to be worse. [00:28:27] Speaker A: So why is that? [00:28:30] Speaker B: I mean, you. Julius Randall is a really good player, but he's not, he's not a star. You take away Cat. You know, I know there's probably some X's and O stuff you could talk about with Julius Randall able to do some things down low to help out Anthony Edwards and stuff. But I think Cat provided a different element on both ends of the floor. And when that trade first went off, like I, I texted some people, I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. You're giving up a star for a B minus star in Julius Randall that the Lakers got rid of and a role player in DiVincenzo. So you had a team that was top of the west last year and now you're trading away your, you know, a top player. I just think again from the chemistry thing, the way it's working out, I would say the under. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Talk about that. I just see Anthony Edwards is taking the next step. Man, this the next number one guy looking like Jordan on the court. Hell, it could be Jordan's kid for all we know. He looks like Jordan. [00:29:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I heard he wants to go play football though. So he's just, you know, gonna win a ring and go play football. Some interview he did, so. [00:29:44] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all he said he could tackle what Derek Henry and Henry said. Hello? [00:29:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's an interview. I forgot. For what. With Justin Jefferson as well. But. So you got under Jason Bear at. [00:30:02] Speaker C: Yeah. I thought Minnesota overachieved 56 wins last year. 52. 53 feels about right. You know, to Jason's point. K town's losing him. He. He was more of a spacer of the floor. You know, he calls himself the greatest seven foot three point shooter in. In the world. NBA history. And he might damn well be. Randall kind of had that and then lost it. And then I know early in the year he was shooting about 40%. So if they could get that element from him along with the physicality which he brings to kind of, you know, mix him in with Gobert. And then they got the sixth man of the year coming off the bench to help. I like Minnesota. I don't think they're going to win 56 games, but I think they're built better to perform better in the playoffs where it matters most. And I think that's the most important thing for Minnesota. So I'm gonna say I think they went 52 or 53 games. That's right. Right there. It's. For me, it's right on the money. I. I'm gonna lean. I'll take over. I'll sell you win 53 games, but I wouldn't be surprised if they win 52. 51. [00:31:13] Speaker A: Yeah, they're definitely over 50 teams for sure. Timbers are kind of like an interesting pick, man. Like if they like click. [00:31:26] Speaker C: You know, given Chinzo adds depth to that team too. [00:31:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I like them as a, as a dark horse. NBA champion. [00:31:37] Speaker B: I won't say no. But like, what, what do these guys do with Go Bear at like a certain point because like you got like your second highest paid player. I believe he still is like, you basically take him off the floor, crunch time for the most part. [00:31:48] Speaker A: It's kind of weird because he keeps on winning. [00:31:50] Speaker C: They just gave him an extension too, didn't they? [00:31:53] Speaker A: The year before, I think. Yeah, after. And then he won the defensive player of the year award again. [00:32:00] Speaker C: Well, they got Nas Reed. Nas Reed is. He's an undersized, you know, he's nice. He's six, nine. So they can go Nas Reed, six nine, Julius Randall, six, seven, six, eight. That's still small. And they're not really, you know, we love them for all. I love him. He's not really a great perimeter defender against a two or three. No, that's not his game. [00:32:23] Speaker A: I do like the grittiness though. Like they're bruisers in there. And then Anthony Edwards. [00:32:29] Speaker C: So like to Jason's point, Minnesota with K Towns out of five matched up really well with the Thunder and the Mavericks because they play small ball. And the, the Warriors, I feel are going to be in that mix too. So does Julius rental become your five and then rotate the five with him and then again you're, you know, supposed defensive player of the year. Go Bears back on the bench. Yeah, come playoff time. [00:32:58] Speaker A: Let's move on to the next one. Denver Nuggets, 5111 half for their over under. They won 57 games last year. Let's just pull up some notes real quick. So Jamal Murray resigned a four year extension. By the way, he looks a step or two. I know we're early in the season, but he's looked like he's slowed down every year since they won that chip. Not a good sign. Without him, they don't win that championship and they probably should have won another one the a year or two prior. They also got DeAndre Jordan back, obviously added Russell Westbrook and Dario Sarek, KCP left, and Reggie Jackson, which I thought those two guys were pretty big pivotal pieces for their championship runs. I think that's a big loss and kind of like the way I felt like about the Milwaukee Bucks a couple years ago. I'm starting to feel like that for the Denver Nuggets. They're starting to look a little beat up and old and they've had some long playoff runs. But now homeboy doesn't have enough help now to make a deep run. I, I think, I think the window's over. I think it's out. I got the under on this one. They're under 50 wins. [00:34:12] Speaker C: 51 1/2 under. [00:34:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the west is just too deep, too tough. Everyone got better except for them. [00:34:23] Speaker B: I'd take I if it was 51 and a half still. I'd take the over. I'm not going to disagree with Rome as far as the help that Jokic is getting. However, I don't think you can count this man out to put up an MVP season all year. And you know Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon in the mix to a degree, helping him out. I. [00:34:47] Speaker C: This guy is close out too. Now Aaron Gordon's just hurt. I think he's out, what, three weeks, four weeks? [00:34:54] Speaker B: I don't know. I just think he's too much of an unstoppable type of. Type of player at certain point that it's just going to be 50 wins off the top right there. [00:35:02] Speaker C: Yeah. So let's look at. They won tonight, gave The Thunder their first loss. I'm looking at the jokish line right now. 23 points, 20 rebounds, 16 dimes. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Guy's a beast, dude. [00:35:14] Speaker C: That's about Murray and Aaron Gordon. They were, they were an underdog by five points tonight. I thought the Thunder was a lock to win this game and they, they balled out every one. They had four starters with 24 points or more in this game. So I agree 100 with you, Rome. This feels like a team of this group. Their window is closed. Murray seems to be slowing down. He. He faded last year towards the end the playoffs wasn't a great run. He had a terrible Olympics for team Canada. He's gone up. He got off to a really bad start and then he gets the concussion. The team's actually 30 without him. Obviously they're better with them, but Denver feels like a team that needs to make a splash in free agency and get somebody there to join the Joker. And I just don't know why nobody would want to join the best player in the world. He makes life so much easier for you. Why is that? [00:36:09] Speaker A: Actually, I really don't. Weird. It's weird. [00:36:12] Speaker C: I really don't know. They're real. Yeah. Great coach and Michael Malone. Great organization. Organizations well ran. I mean, Denver's always been well round. I mean, maybe it has to do with one playing at altitude. Never played there. But I, you know, to be honest. [00:36:28] Speaker A: I've never been to Denver, but it sounds like a cool place to visit. I really want to go. [00:36:32] Speaker C: Yeah, but you know, everybody talks about altitude and how it affects you and you can basically six minutes into a game and you feel like you've been running for an hour. [00:36:41] Speaker A: Is that how it is? [00:36:42] Speaker C: I don't know. Never. Never done it. Never been there. But that's, you know what we're here. Honestly, I'm surprised no one like KCP left. You know, the NBA seems to me like everybody's just trying to get the highest dollar bid. And there's always like towards the end of a guy's career, like you'll see somebody like partner with somebody and take a minimum wage contract. I mean, if I was a player, I would be dying to play with the Joker because you know he's going to pass you the ball. 16 dimes tonight with not one player that's even gonna remotely make an all star game again. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Possibly. Yeah. [00:37:15] Speaker C: It gets the best team in the NBA. [00:37:20] Speaker A: So what are you thinking? [00:37:23] Speaker C: Under? [00:37:24] Speaker A: Under? Yeah, it seems like a 46 win team. I don't know. [00:37:29] Speaker C: They'll be at. They'll be at 48, 49. I mean they're. To me, they're between 48 and 52 wins. That's fair. And they're at 51 and a half. I'll say they go under. I say they win like 50 games. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Let's take it up now with the Sacramento Kings over unders 46 and a half. I think they won 46 games last year. Yeah, 46 games. This is a pretty interesting team. They already signed Malik Monk, who I like, they added tomorrow. Derozan. I think we talked about this on the phone the other day. Aaron they picked up some other guys. I'm not really too familiar. Harrison Barnes left the trade with the Spurs. Duarte Chris, he was pretty solid for them last year. He's now with the Bulls. They got to Aaron McDermott, Sabonis, they got some tough guys on this team. It's just a, it's just a really crowded West. What are you thinking? [00:38:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean they add to Martin Rosen, but for me they don't have any size outside. It's a bonus. Who is. Is what? Six, nine. Their next best player, big man is Alex Land. He's been around forever. Seven footer, hasn't accomplished anything much in the league outside of just being, you know, a role player. Dear. And Fox is the baller tomorrow. Rosen. I mean they could score points, but can they defend it against anybody? To me, the Kings didn't get better, but they didn't get worse. They're just the same to me. Yeah, just like they added, they added a flashy name at DeMar DeRozan. But it's not going to be something that like pissed them another five, six games in the win column. Maybe they win two more games, but first round exit again if they even get past the plan. [00:39:17] Speaker B: So I'd stay away from it if it's 46 and a half. But if you're telling me to pick something, I go under. [00:39:25] Speaker C: I, I lean under too. I take the under. [00:39:28] Speaker A: I'm leaning over. But 48 wins max. Maybe I like them. It's just. It's a loaded West. Let's go with Memphis Grizzlies, which, what the hell are they on my list? [00:39:40] Speaker C: 47 and a half. They won. They won 27 last year. Obviously injury riddled team last season, injury riddled. [00:39:48] Speaker A: They got their boy back though. He's not suspended, he's not punching 17 year old kids in pickup games anymore. Every time like you have like a star player with like that kind of like off the, for off the court drama or off the field. They never come back the same. Right. That's been kind of like the MO. Like not only in this league with the NFL with DeShawn Watson, they just these long suspensions just like kind of kill the momentum, the vibes. [00:40:13] Speaker C: Agree man, agree. [00:40:16] Speaker A: I was just looking at Jason's face right now. [00:40:18] Speaker B: I'm sorry. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Oh, that's yawn. [00:40:20] Speaker B: That was eon. [00:40:22] Speaker C: This has got to be up in like five hours, man. Go to work. So he's like, he thought he was coming off for an hour pod and he's on. [00:40:30] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll wrap it Up. So Memphis, they got Sky Pittman Jr. Oh, wow. [00:40:36] Speaker C: Who's better, Scottie Pippen Jr. Or Ronnie James Jr. Quick, I'll take your answer off the air. [00:40:42] Speaker A: Pippen Jr. Is obviously a legit player. Bronnie. [00:40:50] Speaker C: No, it's not getting to Bronnie. I'll. I'll take under. Memphis 47 and a half since we're on them. [00:40:54] Speaker A: Under. [00:40:55] Speaker B: I. Yeah, I agree. I agree with Aaron. I think, you know, job put together a pretty solid year, but competitive west, you know, just not a super explosive team. They bring. They're bringing the. They always got the grindhouse going down in Memphis. Right. So they'll be grinding it to get into the bottom of the playoffs. [00:41:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it really depends on Jaw. Right. If he kind of captures, like, what he was a couple years ago, then they're gonna be dangerous and they're gonna be, you know, a tough out. When it comes playoff times, I think they're right there at that 47, 48 win. I'm leaning under, but we'll see. Last playoff team. Is that. Is this a lot? The last team. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Last team, man, you say you saved it for you, man. I'm expecting a huge take for you on this one. [00:41:49] Speaker C: Oh, wow, man, I forgot about this team. [00:41:51] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. Well, he lost today. No shocker over. Under 43 and a half. They won 47 games last year. A big chunk of that was like, all after January, as they've been doing the last two seasons, getting hot. And they look pretty formidable, actually going to the playoffs. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Hey, you guys have won a banner last year. You got the Ist. [00:42:20] Speaker C: You hung it. Hung it, hung it in. [00:42:21] Speaker A: That's when they started playing like crap. Yeah, they. Right when they won that, it was just like, false hope. It's like false promise. Oh, yeah, dude, I forgot about that. Oh, they beat the Pacers in that championship game. In that ugly court, everyone's jerking each other off. Then they went like, what, like 5 and 15, like, for like a month and a half. Like, what's gonna happen? Is LeBron happy? All that stuff. Everyone's on the coach Darman Ham, who he's been getting a lot of flack on X and on ig. Aaron, we talked about this, I think, on the phone. All the broadcasts, tnt, espn, just, like, having clips of, like, the way Darwin Ham looks like, on the sidelines, hands in his pocket, looking lost. And then you got J.J. redick here, like, hey, guys, it's not over Compassion work on this. Like, actually writing down plays and to, like, they didn't Make Darvin Ham look any better when they showed, like, this highlight clip and he spelled foul wrong, said don't foul, and he spelled it like the bird foul. And it's like, dude, they've been saving this. I didn't know this many people hated Darvin Ham. You know, he did take him, you know, to a two. Two years on the job, tears on the job. [00:43:34] Speaker C: Take him to a Western Conference final to lose to the eventual NBA champion. [00:43:39] Speaker A: They lost all those games by a total of, like, five points. [00:43:41] Speaker C: And then play him again in the playoffs and lose four games by, like, a total of 11 points. Two of them basic. Two of them basically buzzer beaters from arguably the best clutch NBA playoff guy in the last five years. And Jamal Murray for game winners. [00:43:57] Speaker A: I forgot about that, too. Oh, my God. This is therapy. [00:44:03] Speaker B: I don't know. I'm looking at a headline, though, for on ESPN.com right now about today's stuff. Reddick praises LeBron. Rips others for lack of effort. [00:44:15] Speaker A: Well, he did score 39 points tonight, which is impressive. [00:44:19] Speaker C: No AD in the lineup. [00:44:22] Speaker A: Yeah, AD's on a tear. I think he's. If he plays like this, man, that's mvp. This might be his year. But the fact that they've got AD playing lights out, what's. [00:44:33] Speaker C: What is ad? I mean, he's got a bad foot. Supposedly was bothering him during the Olympics. He's got a bone bruise. What does he have? [00:44:40] Speaker A: They're calling it. I guess, like the trainer. They found, like, a way to kind of mediate some of that pain so AD can play on it. I don't know, man. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Saying ankle. [00:44:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't think it's the ankle. I think it has something to do more so of the foot or the heel. [00:44:56] Speaker A: Ankles are tough. That can knock you out a couple. A couple weeks. [00:44:59] Speaker C: Ankle, I mean, ankle wouldn't be hurting coming from the Olympics now, that would be healed up. I think it's something a little more deep rooted in there, given his size. A big guy. I. I don't like to have big guys having problems with their feet. That usually means they're gonna miss some time. [00:45:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Or their career's done. Right. [00:45:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:17] Speaker A: I honestly think, like, J.D. reddick might be, like, a great hire. Just the way he breaks down Phil and the way he got his team already bought in AD and the rest of the guys, I think the way he brought in Bronnie for that one game so they can have, like, that moment, you know, undeserved. But I guess it's cool for the Father son moment with The Ken Griffey Jr. Father Son Team there. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with the over. I'm. As much as I hate my Lakers, as much as I hate LeBron being on the team. I like the Reddick higher. I do like the other pieces they can't guard for though their defense is atrocious as you've probably seen, you know for like some of the highlights. But they've also come back and, and had some pretty impressive, you know, games already with some pretty big victories in the short season. I'm going over 43 and a half. [00:46:16] Speaker B: I'll go with you Rome. Yeah, I'll go with you on it. But I, I think, I think 100 is tied to 80s health and if for sure if he's going to be box for center period of time then it's, it's going to be a hard under. I, I think AD will be relatively healthy this year to do enough for this team to hit the over. [00:46:35] Speaker A: This would be the first time in his career he has back to back healthy years. [00:46:38] Speaker C: We played 76 games last year. Yeah, I mean they can get 66 plus games out of him. That'd be great. I'm with you guys. I'm with you guys to the over. Lakers are gonna win 45 games this year. [00:46:51] Speaker A: At least five. [00:46:52] Speaker C: Huh. So I'm on the over two and you know, if, if J.J. redick doesn't work out for him, he goes back to commenting in the booth, calling color commentary and then he gets another job somewhere else. Just a recycle guy. [00:47:06] Speaker A: I liked him in the booth. He was actually a breath of fresh air in the final. [00:47:11] Speaker C: Hey is Jay. Bill is now the new NBA guy. Is he that he's. He was working with Doris Burke and. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Really Jay. [00:47:18] Speaker C: Yeah, he's. He does always. He's always been college basketball but he's. He was doing this NBA game tonight. I don't know if he's part of that team or not. This is the first game I watched on espn. [00:47:27] Speaker A: I got to hear an NBA game with him. I do like him for college basketball but huh. I'd be kind of. [00:47:31] Speaker B: Maybe he's just getting some. Some broadcaster preseason reps in before his college basketball kicks off this weekend. [00:47:37] Speaker C: Yeah, college. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I wasn't sure. [00:47:39] Speaker A: Bill Smith's ball and he knows his rap. That guy's. That guy's a G. Yeah. [00:47:45] Speaker C: JV is a good dude man. I like him. [00:47:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:47] Speaker C: But yeah, he was working with Doris Burke and Do you guys like Doris Burke? I do, yeah. I like Doors. Yeah. [00:47:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I think she gives great insight. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Do you guys like it when they have the WNBA players doing. Announcing? Like, I can't remember. [00:48:06] Speaker C: I didn't catch that. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Like a Candace Parker. I think she's. She's done well. [00:48:10] Speaker C: She's on TNT with Kevin Harlem and Stan Van Gundy. [00:48:18] Speaker B: Might be. And those stand does games for tnt, doesn't do studio. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:24] Speaker C: Yeah. But Candace does some games, right? Yeah. [00:48:28] Speaker A: So I don't really watch the B squad on that. [00:48:31] Speaker C: I actually. I actually like Candace. I think she does a pretty good job. I mean, I still. I mean, I still. For ESP and Ms. Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy. I don't think they should have ever broken up that duo. [00:48:44] Speaker A: No. [00:48:45] Speaker C: Doesn't make. Doesn't make any sense to me. [00:48:47] Speaker A: No sense, man. [00:48:47] Speaker C: I mean, he got. It got JJ Redick higher and he got him a head coaching gig, so good for him. [00:48:52] Speaker A: Yeah, but I think he would have. [00:48:53] Speaker C: Gotten a job regardless of that position there. [00:48:56] Speaker A: Well, he was crazy breaking down film on his podcast and then. Then he brought LeBron in, so. They're all jerking each other off. [00:49:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:06] Speaker A: They'Re drinking some shitty wine, by the way, but. All right, cool. That does it for the West Western final, man. Yeah, let's do it. Who you got, Aaron? [00:49:16] Speaker C: I'll take the Thunder to come out of the west, beat the Suns. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Thunder beat the Suns. And you are bullish. [00:49:25] Speaker B: I got the same matchup, but I'm gonna say the Suns will defeat the Thunder. [00:49:29] Speaker A: What? Why is that? [00:49:35] Speaker B: I think Durant, he's got something to prove here. This is gonna be like kind of the last stand right now of the old guard. [00:49:43] Speaker A: That guy's a diva. Makes sense, actually, why Durant and Westbrook finally broke up, right? They've been like some pretty diva guys the past decade. Drama non stop with those two. I love Westworld. My dog's named after Westbrook. Where is he? Same attitude, too. I'm going to go with the Thunder beating the Timberwolves in the conference finals. I think Anthony Edwards needs one more ass beating and then he comes back and probably wins rings off a few championships in the next 10 years. That's my prediction. [00:50:36] Speaker C: All right, all right. What about NBA Finals? [00:50:40] Speaker A: NBA Finals? Yeah. So you got Thunder, you got the Suns. [00:50:47] Speaker B: Have the Celtics beating the Knicks, and I think these Celtics defeat the Suns, they go back to back. [00:50:57] Speaker C: I'll take OKC to win their first franchise title. They'll beat the Celtics. [00:51:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's hard for me to root for the Celtics. You know. [00:51:08] Speaker B: It'S not rooting. It's just prediction, you know? [00:51:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I can't wear anything green. Can't do it. Ain't any shade of Celtic green. I like the Celtics chances of winning back to back, but I'll be rooting for the Thunder to win their first championship. Cool. Maybe we'll do this, like, every two weeks. I don't know. We'll see how it goes. I know Nick. He'll be down to come on the Pod to talk basketball at the end of the month before Thanksgiving. We will do like, a little check in, then do like another check in after the play in tournament, whatever that is. [00:51:51] Speaker B: The Ist tournament. [00:51:52] Speaker A: You know, IST tournament. Probably Christmas. [00:51:55] Speaker C: Sounds like an Ist. Sounds like an std, man. [00:51:58] Speaker A: It does. [00:51:59] Speaker C: Season tournament, man. [00:52:00] Speaker A: And I never had one. I don't even want to be around ist. That sounds really dangerous. [00:52:04] Speaker C: It's kind of hurting me hearing it, man. I prefer the. The in season tournament or whatever the hell. [00:52:10] Speaker B: They needed to have a better name for it. Like, you're like, europe gets away with this soccer, because they'd be like the Community Shield or like the FA cup or, you know, MLS even does it. They like the USA cup or whatever like that. Like you have it. Something else. [00:52:27] Speaker A: Well, now. Now it's the Emirates. The Emirates of the flight. The Emirates cup. [00:52:33] Speaker B: For the Premier League. For that FA Cup. Yeah, it's probably. [00:52:36] Speaker A: No, I. No, I think that's what they're calling the NBA in season tournament. The Emirates Cup. [00:52:40] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Yeah, it could be. [00:52:41] Speaker A: That's what they're naming. Yeah. [00:52:42] Speaker B: All right, well, I get. They get them. Yeah. Change the name. The Emirates Cup. [00:52:47] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, cool. That's it, right? That's it. [00:52:52] Speaker B: That's it. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Are we gonna. [00:52:54] Speaker C: Emirates NBA Cup 20, 24. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Are we gonna. [00:52:57] Speaker C: They just took. They took. They took it from soccer. It's the same in soccer. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Yep. [00:53:02] Speaker A: No new ideas, huh? [00:53:03] Speaker C: I told you, man. Hey, Adam Silver, man. Never. Never. I'm never a big fan of his, man. [00:53:10] Speaker A: I. How aggressive he is, because I thought Davis was terrible, but some of the stuff is a little too aggressive, like renaming, like all the. All the. All the MVPs for the Eastern Conference, Western Conference, all that. These colored floors, you know, I'm not really digging it. [00:53:26] Speaker B: Trying to do something. Ratings are down. [00:53:29] Speaker C: How long before they change the logo from Jerry west to LeBron? [00:53:34] Speaker A: I don't think that's the logo. What would be LeBron's silhouette, anyways? [00:53:41] Speaker C: I think if they went to anybody, it'd be Kobe before LeBron. [00:53:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:45] Speaker C: Or I mean, because. [00:53:48] Speaker B: I mean, probably not because LeBron's gonna be an owner of some expansion Las Vegas franchise probably at some point. So he won't get the logo. [00:53:55] Speaker A: Jordan's too big with his brand. [00:53:59] Speaker C: You have to pay him. You have to pay him too much, guys too. [00:54:02] Speaker B: Fucking Redstone brand of its own. [00:54:04] Speaker A: Yeah. That's so crazy. We'll do college basketball. When do you want to do college basketball, Aaron? [00:54:11] Speaker C: I don't want to do like no college basketball. We can just talk about games as they come up as, well, me. [00:54:16] Speaker A: Okay. [00:54:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:17] Speaker A: Because that's your time to do. [00:54:18] Speaker C: The only time you do college basketball is when it's March Madness, man. We can. We'll get a bracket. We fill it out and then you. [00:54:25] Speaker B: Just do some check ins throughout the year. And then we look at once. Once Super Bowl's over with. That's going into conference tournament time heading into March. [00:54:33] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Jason said you got Friday North Carolina at Kansas Blue Bloods of college basketball. That's a big game. Home game at the Allen Field House. [00:54:44] Speaker A: That's one of my teams, by the way, Jason. Carolina, baby blue. Basically. [00:54:50] Speaker B: I got a Jordan Carolina jersey kicking around here somewhere. [00:54:54] Speaker A: Really? Oh, man, that's pretty dope. That's pretty cool. Thanks so much for doing this. [00:55:00] Speaker B: No problem. You got a lot of editing to do on this one. [00:55:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I didn't do myself any favors on this one. [00:55:07] Speaker C: Nah, man, I didn't. [00:55:09] Speaker A: It was fun, though. I actually had fun on. On this one. This is good. It was editing a lot. [00:55:14] Speaker C: It was going smooth till you brought up.

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