New York New York, the Stacked NFC North, Updated Coaches Hot Seat, and the Big Ten

[00:00:01] Speaker A: All right, guys, we are back. Sources from the sofa, full lineup today. Jason Zinke, Aaron Toller and myself, Roman Valdez. It was a hell of a football week. We're going to talk college football today. Some NFL. The wild card wrapped up. Beginning of the NLCs getting underway. Pretty exciting. Baseball, and we're hitting like the equinox of sports. Even some WNBA finals going on. Hockey just started, you know? Yeah, it's pretty awesome. And then basketball season starts in a week or so. I don't even know what I'm gonna do with myself with all the sports on tv. I know Aaron's already got his, like, la Z boy already set up with his ass imprinted on those seats. [00:00:49] Speaker B: Been imprinted for a while, man. [00:00:51] Speaker A: They've been imprinted for a while. Yeah, with the dog imprint as well. Cool, man. Let's get underway then. So we're recording a day later than we usually do. We typically do this on a Monday night after Monday night football, some delays, but here we are, Tuesday after a pretty fun. I think it was a pretty fun Yankee game. [00:01:11] Speaker C: Interesting enough, we didn't record yesterday after the Dodgers loss, but I don't know if that's a coincidence or anything. [00:01:16] Speaker A: It's not a coincidence, but it didn't help me as I had a couple of shots to kind of understand what the hell happened. I totally forgot it was a 01:00 game. [00:01:26] Speaker B: I think the game was over before Rome even knew it was on. [00:01:29] Speaker A: It was over before? Yeah, yeah. [00:01:30] Speaker C: I mean, they were down six, nothing when he found out it was on. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I was on Twitter tweeting some stuff, talking shit on, you know, on our podcast. If you guys are not following us on x, we're killing it on there. And then I find out what the hell. So, grand slam. I thought we're talking about Dodgers. Like a little highlight. No, it's the Mets. I'm like, what do you. It's only 130. Turn on the tv. Yup, it's on the tv. I'm just. I don't know. Hey, I'm not a good fan. [00:01:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Very weird broadcasting schedule, I would say, for the NLCS. I mean, just overall. You put a west coast home game on at 01:00 in the afternoon on a Monday. I know, I know it was a holiday at some. In some parts of the country with, uh, formerly Columbus Day, but I think it's indigenous. But still, I don't think that's a day most people have off in LA. And just from a, you know, an overall viewing experience, a little east coast bias. I think there that we make sure we get the Mets on at four in the afternoon, parlaying straight to the Yankees on at like 738 o'clock or whatever it was. So the east coast got, you know, both games in prior, but you have, you know, most of in California going to work while the Dodgers play at 01:00 in an interesting broadcast schedule. [00:02:48] Speaker A: I will say, yeah, only government jobs had the day off, but I was hungover, so I didn't, I wasn't prepared to catch game at 01:00. And, yeah, it just happened to work out like that then. Aces, man. It was a New York day in heaven. They got, you have the Mets, you have the Yankees, they have the Rangers on one tv. I think they were playing my red Wings. You had the islanders on another tv, and then you had two of the, of the three NFL teams, bills against the jets, which we can get, get started there. I guess it was just New York day. It was pretty wild. You guys, I believe, had the jets winning that game. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Jason and the Bills, man. [00:03:28] Speaker A: Nice. I was rooting for the Bills. It was a divided bar. I even ran into like a really cool couple. The wife was a Bills fan, husband was a Jets fan. He was not happy at the end of the game once Aaron Rodgers threw that pick. Pretty solemn. Whereas, you know, half the bar, I don't even, it wasn't even that many Bills fans. I don't think there's a lot of Bills fans here in San Francisco, but we have a Jets bar up the street. [00:03:53] Speaker C: I don't know if there's a farther place you can get from upstate New York than San Francisco. Maybe San Diego, but so I don't know. [00:03:59] Speaker A: San Diego. Yeah. [00:04:00] Speaker C: Bills fan. I mean, the jets fans overall should have been happy. You got a gift. Hail Mary at the end of the. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Half, which was wild. [00:04:09] Speaker C: Wild that ESPN Joe Buck and Troy Aikman had like the whole video package of all of the Hail Marys that Aaron Rodgers had thrown. It's like, oh, you know, we're at the 50 yard line and we've been around for this one and they got the highlights playing and then just go ahead and does it like, I mean, I couldn't script it much better than that. Just a weird talent for a Hall of Fame quarterback, you know, free tropical quarterback. Hey, won a Super bowl, however many time mvp, and it's just great at throwing Hail Mary, just, just a random part of status career. So. But I think the jets fans would have been happy in the half getting a gift. Seven points, basically. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Four mvp's for Hail Mary touchdowns. Jets definitely got a gift on that one. Yeah, it's a tough loss given everything that went on for the jets there. But, you know, better news this morning with news breaking that Devante Adams traded to the jets. So they got something to look forward to this weekend against your steelers. Roman. They've opened up as a favorite too, on the road against Pittsburgh. [00:05:12] Speaker A: I just saw. And the Bills got a gift as well. They were active today. Felt like trading day, you know, all of a sudden we got two big trades with Mario Cooper going from the Browns. I bet you he's pretty happy now going to Josh Allen. Yeah. Let's talk about the Jets a little bit. So this is the first game post solo firing. They also demoted Hackett. I thought the play calling was a lot better. We saw Brees hall get a lot of carries, a lot of touches. They opened up the, the passive game a little bit. Rogers, I don't know what to think about Rogers kind of throwing his boy underneath the bus of like, why that was a pick at the end saying that he didn't run the right route. But I thought the jets could have won, but I thought the better team won the game, rightfully so. The only thing that was kind of crazy is like so many penalties, like eleven per team for over 100 yards. Like they just kept on throwing the fucking flag. It's just like. I hate when it's like a pride time game. It's just fucking filled with penalties the whole time. It kind of made it slightly unenjoyable. [00:06:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I think there's a lot of talk about that with the players at the end. I think even Rogers even called into question one of the roughing the passer calls. That was like to his benefit. That was very questionable, too. But the jets had the ball, you know, for their game. I think Sirloin missed like two field goals. That should have been makeable. That would have given them the three point win. If you turn those the end their way for something, you know, that in this league has been a chip shot. I know there was some very, you know, wild wins going on in the stadium during that game, but I. It was within, it was within the grass for the Jets. I still two and four, not ideal, but, you know, they do, they do have a lot of cupcake games. I think coming up, they got one, you know, pretty competitive game with the Steelers. But I mean, they're. Aaron, you said they're favorites in this game already. The jets are. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Yeah. So the jets are one and a half two point favorite against the Steelers. [00:07:01] Speaker C: So I mean, they get the Steelers, they get New England, they get a tough game against Houston, but then, you know, they get into it. Arizona and Indianapolis down the stretch. So I think it's not over for the jets. The Devontae Adams obviously signals that they're all in. There was some, you know, like you mentioned Rome, some different play calling from Hackett in this game. Got Breece hall involved. I didn't. There's some questioning play calls here or there. Like the one, the one thing that I didn't like I think mostly is like they get first and goal a couple times and the first thing they do is like Rogers with the ball trying to make a play, doesn't work, then second down, they're automatically going to the run that goes nowhere. And they were always all of a sudden in like a third and third and goal from like the seven or eight at that point too. So it's like you get within the five a lot of these times. Like why are you trying to push the ball ahead into running? Ton of these offensive coordinators do this. It's not just a Hackett thing. I know we talked, you know, at, at length about the bears versus the Colts a couple of weeks ago and what they were doing from within the five, so. But not over for the Jets. I think a lot of, lot of room for them to still take this division and be a playoff team like we talked about. Given that the Dolphins struggles, but the bill so far pacing ahead, they able to stop their skid and, you know, maintain first and kind of their path to win the division. [00:08:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, this was a big win for Buffalo. Going on the road, winning divisional game, taking a two game lead in the division. You know, Jason mentioned Miami. Bless you, sir. Miami looks like they're in trouble. You know, talks about to coming back and playing again this year, but who knows when atriots, we know they've got a rough road ahead, but, you know, the future could look bright with Drake May, if you're the jets, you know, to miss field goals. Yeah, there were gust of winds up to 30, 60 mph. Who your meteorologist was for that game. And, you know, like Jason said, once you get inside the five, the jets got a good old line. They should be able to run the ball in there, but they get too predictable. I think a lot of ocs try to outsmart themselves, go hard, play action, try to sneak a tight end into the flat, roger completion. They did run one in that, got called back with a, you know, like you said Rome, questionable calls throughout the game by officiating. That was a questionable hold on Tyrone Smith. I mean, yeah. What quarter was that late in the fourth. Yeah, okay, that, that was a big penalty because that pushed them back and then they ended up missing the field goal, you know, by a zur line there. So. And then Mike Williams, his days are numbered. He'll be out. New York's jets are going to trade him. I believe he'll be inactive even if he is still part of the roster come this next game. Rogers just doesn't trust them. Williams, you know, link possibly to Pittsburgh. Maybe they swap him right there during the game and say, here, here you go, Tomlin, pin him in. [00:09:42] Speaker A: So, yeah, it's a carousel who Rogers going to throw underneath the bus weekend and week out. By the way, was that an incomplete pass or a fumble? Oh, and the Rogers, yeah, I think we were talking about it earlier. [00:10:01] Speaker B: I would call it a fumble most definitely, but they ruled it incomplete. Even the ex ESPN NFL rules analysts for the Bills working up there wanted them to challenge it and get that overturned of a fumble. So that tells you all you need know. It could have went 50 50, but they called it a fumble on. I think they originally called it a fumble on the field and quickly turned it over. But it's kind of the old tuck rule. Is it a fumble? Is it a forward pass? Yeah, the hand was coming forward, but he wasn't trying to throw the ball, as you can see, fully gripped it and then was hit and the ball came loose. In my opinion, that's a fumble. But you know, they call me, they didn't call me for the replay. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Dude, Aaron, just, just go ahead and work for the NFL already. Be like an NFL officiating crew. I think you'd be really good at it. [00:10:46] Speaker B: And then just, you know, you know, Rome, you were talking a lot of smack early in the year in Miami. You see the difference between Alan Lazard, that was a catch. The Virginia tech game against Miami was not a catch. Go work as a go. Look at the two and you'll be able to see the difference between a catch and no catch. [00:11:01] Speaker C: I think the best part of Lazard catch, like he, he didn't even catch it at the highest point. Like literally, it was just like, you know, full extension. But it was like, as it was coming down and just, yeah, just got, got the ball all the way to the ground, you know, and that, that wasn't questionable. So yeah, it was great catch, great throw. [00:11:19] Speaker A: Nice. So like, we're officially a third of the way there, right. I think some teams, it's kind of weird. Some teams are starting to look like the way they, we thought they were going to look like some teams. We still have a lot of questions is we're going to get to the second part, the end of, you know, the season, where I guess that's going to clarify itself up a little bit more. Uh, let's talk about the biggest losses of the week. Do you guys have any ones that kind of stuck out? [00:11:54] Speaker C: Um, I mean, the Cowboys, I think overall was probably up there. Not just the loss itself, but just how embarrassing, you know, the team overall looked. I don't think anyone in Dallas was happy. I think I'm, I think anti cowboy America was definitely happy on this game. I think X X was pretty all over the dismay that Cowboys fans were. There was a great one of, I think a Cowboys fan that was throwing up or something at, at and t stadium and there was a Lions fan like doing the gritty behind them or something. So could you send it to me. [00:12:31] Speaker A: If you see it again? [00:12:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll send it to you. It was pretty good. I think that was probably the biggest loss. I think the other one up there, they've been kind of backtracking for the last four weeks, was the Saints. But I think they, they made a real game of it in the second quarter and took the lead and just totally got, you know, had a second half to forget and the Buccaneers just ripped it away from them, too. So I think it puts the safe down the bot probably towards the bottom of the division and tracking like we thought they would probably finishing 3rd, 3rd in that NFC south. But, I don't know, surprising losses. I think the Cowboys would be the most surprising to me only because of how bad it was. Not necessarily they lost. [00:13:12] Speaker A: So for me, that's like, probably like one of the worst losses of the week, but it's also one of the better wins. I loved it. I like seeing that the lions dominate. It was great, really enjoyable. The only shitty part is they're starting to look like this super bull juggernaut and then Hutchinson goes down. You can hear it on the, on the telecast is breaking his leg. It made me cringe. I went to go see replays like an idiot on x and I really feel bad, but it kind of opens the door maybe for them to go pick up what's his face on the, on the Raiders if they're going to be doing a fire cell. [00:13:44] Speaker B: What are you talking about? Max Crosby? [00:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:46] Speaker B: I don't think. I think the Raiders are going to move off Max Crosby. But yeah, I mean, talking about disappointing losses, obviously the embarrassment that we saw from Dallas was a big loss, but jason touched on the Saints. I want to go the Seahawks on Thursday night and the jets on Monday night. Those are two teams that lost at home that could have basically taken control of the division leads. When you lose divisional games at home with a chance to take an early division lead in your conference, those are big losses. So those two, those two were going to sting, I think, for the jets and Seahawks as we move on later on into the season. [00:14:19] Speaker A: Nice. Yeah, can't disagree with those four nine ers. Really need that win. So really happy that they got that win and they have a really big matchup this week against KC. Other big wins, Bengals. And it looked so good against the Giants. That was a weird game. [00:14:38] Speaker B: I think the Giants are better than we think, man. I really do. [00:14:41] Speaker A: I think the defense is solid, the offense, it kind of sputtered. It was back to the old, you know, Danny Penny's not daddy dimes, it's daddy pennies. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Now, I thought Daniel Jones played fairly okay. I mean, he, he had the one turnover there inside the red zone where he was hit during the throw. But overall, I mean, Brian Dable kind of pulled out all the stops. I think they went for like five straight fourth downs, hit three out of two and one, ended up there at the end they didn't get. And then Cincinnati went down there and scored. But since it came in averaging over 35 points a game the last three times out and was held to ten until they got that late touchdown by Brown to seal the deal. But I mean, Cincinnati, for team that needed a win, they got one. But the Giants, they're a little more competitive and tougher than we thought. I think. [00:15:28] Speaker C: I think their biggest miss probably in the game, like no one's probably going to talk about it. Like they had Tyrone Tracy in it. Running back for the Giants, he got 17 carries, only managed to get 50 yards. They had Devin Singletary out and I know he's kind of a back. That's when around the league and stuff, but I mean, he's been what was supposed to be the replacement for Saquon, big shoes to fill. But he's been pretty serviceable the first couple of weeks. I think with him being out, that was, you know, sorely missed on the running game to really take some pressure off of Daniel Jones. Um, I don't know if I go as far as Aaron to say they're better than we think because you know, scored seven points in the game. Daniel Jones, no touchdown, still throws a pick. Um, yeah. I mean, for me, I was more wondering when I actually tuned in that game. Sunday night is like, why is this game in prime time right now? [00:16:11] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:16:12] Speaker C: Why, why do we have, like, one in four versus two and three or whatever? It was going in prime time, but it's the Giants. And yes, they're going to get all the Sunday night love that they get all the time. And so, but. [00:16:24] Speaker B: I thought, wasn't it like an Eli celebration, too, at halftime or commencing the Super bowl champion team or something was going on, too there in New York? [00:16:33] Speaker A: I missed that. [00:16:34] Speaker C: I missed. I missed that. I don't know. [00:16:35] Speaker A: You missed that? Yeah. I thought, like, another big win for this week has to go to the Chargers. They came out after their bye week, completely dominated the Broncos. They looked really solid. I believe Herbert finally had over 200 casting yards. Have to look it up real quick. But they kind of took off the gas pedal or took their foot off the gas pedal in the second half, but just came out swinging and really controlled that game from top to bottom. [00:17:00] Speaker C: Did we ever get clarification what happened to Harbaugh in the game? [00:17:04] Speaker B: Irregular heartbeat. [00:17:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:06] Speaker C: Okay. But then went back out. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I got an, I took an iv and got it. Took a magnesium pill and got the AOK from the doctor. Got cleared to. [00:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Blood center, too. Yeah. Blood thinner, too. Right. [00:17:19] Speaker A: Yeah. That's something we should probably monitor, man, because if he's all of a sudden having heart problems, he's had them since. [00:17:26] Speaker B: 1999, so he's had a few procedures he mentioned. He even jokes that he's two and o when he's had irregular heartbeats during games. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah, he does. Yeah, I know. [00:17:36] Speaker C: There was, there was another thing on X that I said, a conspiracy theory on the, on X was that he changed pants then that he came out originally so that he went number two in his pants and went to change and stuff. And that was the real reason behind it. Probably not the real reason, but entertaining nonetheless. [00:17:54] Speaker A: That would be something that he would do, though. Probably. [00:17:57] Speaker B: I heard he basically made a phone call to Connor Stallings and was trying to steal some signs before the game started to get some insignificant information. And then once he got the AOK, returned back to the sideline. [00:18:06] Speaker A: Dude, that guy's making his money making his rounds on the media, just blowing everyone under the bus. Not blowing everyone underneath the bus. That's throwing everyone out of the bus. Uh. All right. God damn it. That's hilarious. With that, uh, I do think we should update the coaches hot seats? I think now's a great time to update that. Uh, one's already gone that was on there. And then also I'd like to reveal, uh, my new power five rankings for the NFL. [00:18:40] Speaker C: I think before you go into that, I think if you talk biggest winners of the week, I think overall you look at, we were talking a little off air the NFC north the entire week. When you look at the Lions crushing the Cowboys, packers dismantling the Cardinals and then my Chicago Bears dismantling the Jaguars between them three, the Vikings on the by and where they're at, you have the entire division for, for and two or better. And then when you look at like point differential, like they're like four of the top teams in the league from a point differential perspective too, for, you know, for point score versus points again. So like this is going to be a super competitive if the playoffs ended today, all four NSC north teams are in the playoffs right now, the entire wild card. So a lot of inter division games to be played down the stretch because they, I think they've only had one so far. I think the Vikings, packers has been the only ones play within division. But this is a stack division that's really going to, you know, going to be interesting down the stretch as we start getting these inter divisional games because all the teams are looking very impressive. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Yeah, it's interesting you say that because I know a lot of us talked about this being your guys's favorite division. Both your teams are in there. Obviously it was my second favorite, but it's a good possibility that all four can get in. If you look at the NFC west, you just had the Niners, Seahawks, Cardinals, they'll probably cancel each other out. Seahawks are having some issues on defense. Maybe they're not going to be as good as we, you know, me and Aaron thought they might have like the leap to this year. And then the east commanders, I don't think they're going to regress at all. Seems like they're really competitive. Good losses. Eagles, that's a shit show. We can talk about Sirianni in a little bit. Cowboys, they're done. They're lucky to be three and three right now, actually. And I don't even have them making the playoffs out. That was my preseason prediction. So it, the only thing is the NSC south, because you have the Falcons and the Bucks are going to be duking it out for the whole season. And who knows, maybe the Bucks regress. Maybe the Falcons regressed. Falcons. Look, gloated they look like they finally found their stride and bucks. As long as they have Mayfield, that guy, he's just a fun, you know, guy to watch. The whole team's really fun. So who knows? [00:20:48] Speaker C: Yeah, a lot of football has to be played and they got to play a lot against each other in the north and the rest of these divisions tool shake out to. You're going to have some, you know, teams that go five and one or six and O against their division rivals down the stretch and they'll give, you know, someone some better win totals. But just, I think this is the best through six weeks. This is the best division I think ever in football from a records perspective. And, you know, you have, you know, really good teams playing really good football right now and, you know, the Vikings are the team that Aaron, I thought will be the odd man out making the playoffs this year. I think both of us relying on that and they're, they're on top of the division so far. So, um, it's going to be exciting, you know, back half of the season, but I think big wins from both of them. Cause that's been, you know, really this the story at least in my neck of the world. Maybe Aaron's too. So. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, NFC north, man, that's where it's at right now. I think if every one of those teams can get to ten wins, then you're looking at maybe them all getting in. Got a big weekend matchup this weekend with Minnesota versus Detroit for the divisional lead. That would tell us a lot what's going on there. But yeah, it's the best division in football right now. No doubt about that. Bears got a bye week before they come out of the by play Washington. So it's exciting, exciting times right now in the NFC north. And the other, you know, we'll, like you said, roman will touch base on the Eagles and Sirianni. Not issue going on there, but a lot of these divisions look like they're only going to get one team in. Maybe some get two in. I do like Atlanta. I do like Tampa Bay, but the other divisions I think are just one team and out. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Yeah. So I guess we'll just segue to coaching hot seats. Obviously NLC south is pretty safe unless you think Al's in danger. But, man, I am kind of worried. I'm not sure if I can narrow it down to five. We got Siri, onion, the Eagles, we got cowboys. Maybe dayball doesn't make it either, but I don't think it's hot. I just think they, they just might make a change there. We already saw Salah get axed. Browns does make it out. Does the Bengals coach make it out? I feel like if they don't turn around his, he is going to get really hot. And then any day now Peterson should be axed. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah, like, like I told you, Rome, I talked to some people out there in Duval County. Peterson does not win this weekend in London. He will be asked on the flight back. He'll be fired next Monday for sure. The Jaguars are going to move on. There's going to be eight openings, I believe we talked about. You mentioned all those guys, all those spots I think have a chance of come open. I don't see McCarthy. You know, he's playing on a contract anyway, so him, he'll probably last the season unless they want to make a move to Zimmerman. But they, I just don't know if they're going to do that. Jerry just doesn't make firings in season. Plus, Dak Prescott and McCarthy are pretty close. [00:23:40] Speaker A: By the way, his blow up today was not good. [00:23:42] Speaker B: No, it wasn't, but, you know, it was, it was a legit question. I mean, Dallas didn't do anything in the offseason, improve the team, and they haven't been to a conference championship game in like 30 years. And they got a lot of injuries. They don't have a lot of debt. I mean, they had a chance to get, you know, Henry from, from tight ends. They didn't do that. And, you know, they've been embarrassed going back to the playoffs last year, their last four home games. Oh, and for annihilating all four games on Cherry's birthday. I loved it. [00:24:14] Speaker A: Oh, man, it's embarrassing. [00:24:16] Speaker B: It's embarrassing of Richard, America's team on Jerry's birthday. And I mean, Detroit embarrassed him so bad. Dude, they were running trick plays of wide receiver, linemen out at wide receiver. [00:24:27] Speaker C: They try to do, I think, both tackles. I think we're going to pass plays for touchdowns. [00:24:33] Speaker B: Talk about rubbing it in. Talk about rubbing in. And I told you when we talked last Thursday that, hey, Detroit was going to come out mad after getting robbed by the officials last year in that game. And they took it personally. They took it personally. [00:24:46] Speaker A: So rank it like hottest seats, honorable mentions, I guess. [00:24:51] Speaker C: I think Peterson's. [00:24:53] Speaker A: I think Peterson's the hottest, right? Yeah. [00:24:54] Speaker C: Yeah, he's the hottest. I. The one thing with circle that, a lot of names in the head coaching stuff we talked about from a free agent coaching class that'll be circling jobs. The Jaguars. I was talking to a few friends of mine about Belichick, and I think, you know, he's circling maybe the Eagles job, maybe the Giants job because he had some ties, that organization, when he was defensive coordinator for parcels, you know, mayor is coming out, school owners. But I, Belichick notoriously wants a lot of control. The Jaguars to me, seem like an interesting opportunity for that organization that, hey, they're going to get. The cons are just going to give you, you know, full control to everything going on in Jacksonville where the Eagles have had a pretty good structure from, you know, GM down from owner and what they've done building teams. I think it'll be very choosy on what are the teams willing to give Belichick the type of control that he's going to want to because a lot of people are saying, oh, he's going to replace McCarthy with the cowboys, but that didn't work the greatest with parcels, and he likes a similar structure. That's. I think it'd be even worse with Belichick, given the way he wants to control. So that I. No sources. For me, this is pure speculation going around of like, what's the job in total control that they give the keys over to Belichick. They already tried to do this with Urban Meyer before, to a degree. It didn't work out in Jacksonville for how bad it was. But now you got a guy. Hey, where, where does a, where does a 70 plus year old guy go? Retire, get his last job, man, we go to Florida, so generally they go to South beach. Well, hey, Duvall county will do. And I think that's a good name to look at. What the Shad Khan, Tony Khan and people in the jaguars, you know, would look at to replace Peterson because that'd be someone they can give the keys to the entire organization to. [00:26:41] Speaker A: After Peterson, who's the next hottest? Like Bernie, like, they might get fired any week. I'm having a hard time picking it out because it seems like everyone else might be fired at the end of the season. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think most guys are getting fired at the end of the year. I would say keep an eye on maybe Dennis Allen. In New Orleans, they started out real hot. Now they've dropped four in a row. [00:27:03] Speaker A: To what happened that that office disappeared. It was the greatest show on earth for two weeks. [00:27:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree with Aaron on Dennis Allen, like, because the one thing. Because Dennis Allen was defensive coordinator right before. [00:27:19] Speaker B: Yes. He took over when Peyton basically walked away. [00:27:24] Speaker C: Generally, like the head coach with a specific side of the ball specialty, like the one thing you could trust on him is like, hey, they're at least going to get their side of the ball, right. You look at, you know, McVeigh with the offense in the Rams, you look at a defensive coach like even Iberfloos with the Bears. As many questions there have, like the defense has like been top five in the league the last like 16 games for the Bears. How bad the defense in New Orleans looks is very questionable for what generally youre your specialty from a head coaches. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, they give up 51 points. I'm also looking at the list. I think Kevin Stefanski for the Browns, I don't think he wants to be there. I mean, the Browns is just a mess. Like you said, rome, basically, they're, they're trying to hype up to Sean Watson like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Oh, it sounds like they're chopping up his balls, dude. He has no other choice but to say, like, he has the best option to win a game. [00:28:20] Speaker B: So, I mean, I think he's a really good coach. I think he's going to come available at the end of the year regardless. But the Browns may just move on. They got their DC was an ex head coach in the league with the Lions, so they, that's an easy transition. They want to make that move just to try to give the organization a spark. So those two names would probably be at the top of my list of guys that could get fired in season outside of, you know, Doug Peterson. [00:28:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I would be surprised to Fanski we talked about a couple of weeks ago, but, like, you look at Deshaun Watson's contract, 45 million this year guaranteed. 45 million next year guaranteed, 45 million the year after that guaranteed with a cap hit of 72.9 million in those final two years. So, like, well, you can all talk all you want about like, wanting to move on from this guy. You literally can't. You have handcuffed the organization where this guy is on your roster because he's too expensive to cut because he'd be accounting for a third of your money, what it would be, and you wouldn't be able to sign anybody else to replace him. So you can't not have him as the starter. At this point. [00:29:22] Speaker B: I think the Browns, you're glad this new allegation came forward, and I wonder if you're out there scouting people to come forward, new allegations just to get this guy on the exempt list, to get him out of the lineup. That might be the Browns best move. [00:29:32] Speaker A: Honestly, I think he already settled in. [00:29:34] Speaker B: He's got a new one that the league's still investigating that just popped up like, two weeks ago. [00:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I could have sworn I read something that he settled. Crazy. Yeah. For me. I'm keeping an eye on Zach Taylor. I think that's low key. Might be, like, pretty hot just because the way the Bengals have. They're not really, dude, two and four. I know they've been some close losses in there, but they look like shit outside of Burrow. So any other thoughts on that? [00:30:04] Speaker B: What's your, what's your top five? What's realm's top five, man? [00:30:07] Speaker A: Five right now. [00:30:08] Speaker B: I heard, I heard a brief list earlier from you, and it was shocking. So I just wanted to see if you revamped it or have you stuck with your top five. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:16] Speaker C: So last time he had Eberfluse on this list when the episode you were off. So hot coaches, huh? [00:30:25] Speaker A: For hot coaches or not hot coaches? Hot seat, hot coaches. [00:30:29] Speaker C: That's a different list, man. [00:30:31] Speaker A: God damn it. Today's not my day. [00:30:35] Speaker B: We're gonna go into hot teams. I mean, I know he refuses to. Gotta be off the list. Not right now. Right now that seats really pretty cushion. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's cooled off a lot. [00:30:43] Speaker B: First class out of London, back into Chicago. Spit. [00:30:46] Speaker A: Okay, so, like, Chicago, I know, jason, you're really happy, but they've also played against, like, the bottom seller of, like, a lot of bad defenses. But granted, that's what you want a team to do anyway, so congrats. [00:30:59] Speaker C: It's funny you say that, and I'm just going to be total. Well, I'm not going to say I got stats on this, but, like, I like Jaden Daniels as well, too. And I don't love the, you know, Jaden Daniels versus Caleb Williams thing. I like it as, hey, if this is going to be the, the Peyton Manning Tom Brady rivalry in the NFC, you know, we're already flexing this game up in two weeks into the afternoon, you know, in the afternoon game on CB's or Fox, whichever one it's on. So, like, they could turn this into something. But you look at the teams that Jaden Daniels played to, no one's, no one's really talking about, oh, we're going to play a bad Giants team, a one in four Cincinnati team, a one in four Arizona team, a Cleveland team that's like one in four, two and three, whatever they are, too. So, like, Jaden Daniels was playing against pretty bad defenses and bad teams to that. [00:31:51] Speaker A: Giants are a good defense, though. [00:31:54] Speaker C: Okay. But he was scored 21 points up against him. So it wasn't like he was. [00:31:58] Speaker B: He didn't even get a touchdown against those guys. Seven field goals. [00:32:01] Speaker C: So, like, overall, Caleb, you know, just say Caleb had four touchdowns in this one game against the Jags. Jaden's got four touchdowns, I think, total for the year so far. So it'll be interesting. [00:32:15] Speaker B: You play against who you play. Both teams are playing well. They got winning records. I mean, Rome's won the talk. The Steelers haven't beat anybody of any substance. They lost to the Cowboys, so I don't think he has much room to be talking over there. [00:32:26] Speaker A: They should have won that game, but. [00:32:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, his team's four and two, and they're going to bench their starter just because, you know, we got to put Russell in or something like that. I don't know what's going on over there. [00:32:36] Speaker A: Allegedly. Allegedly. I don't know. I don't want to talk about that right now. [00:32:40] Speaker B: But your top five teams. Rome. Give it to me, man. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Top five, but up, up, up top. [00:32:45] Speaker C: Top five teams or top five coaches in the hot seat? [00:32:48] Speaker A: No. [00:32:48] Speaker B: Top five teams. [00:32:49] Speaker C: Okay. [00:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah. This is a post week six rankings. Last week, I had a Vikings number one, Chiefs, two with Texans, Lions and commanders. A little bit of shakeup this week. Typically, teams don't, like, drop down in most people's power rankings, but they did in my fucking rankings with the bye week. So we'll go from five up. Number five is dropping from number two to number five. The Ken City Chiefs. I gotta give him respect. They're a decent team. They're five and o, but they really haven't played well. They should be one and four, but I'll give respect. Words do. The fact that they're able to win and with the. With the. With the leftover guys that they have, you know, even if they get somewhat warm, it gives me a little concern. Especially, you know, they're already halfway to, like, their projected win total, so five Chiefs coming at number four. They also dropped the rankings from. Number one is of Minnesota Vikings. They're on the bye week. Still respect what they've done, but, yeah, we'll just see how they do. I think they have a pretty well run offense, really good defense. I'm big flores fan, so showing some love there. Number four. Any feedback so far, guys? [00:34:10] Speaker B: No, man. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Three two going number three, who was an honorable mention last week, especially from Aaron. But the Baltimore Ravens do make the cut this week at number three. They had a hell of a game this week. Derek Henry, man, just seeing him on the Ravens great running attack, as we talked about, that, their defense isn't as good, and that's why I kind of penalized them. They've also played some of the top offenses so far in the first six weeks of the season, so I'm also not going to ding them for that. I don't know if I'm creating some bias one way or the other, but showing some love to the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson crew over there. Number two, they got one spot, is the Houston Texans. They might have the best running back combo in the NFL, and I loved watching their game. Um, strouds a stud. That's all I got to say. And the new number one on my power rankings is the Detroit Lions smacking up the Cowboys, finally looking like the Super bowl contender that I thought they might look like. Only downside, Hutchinson. Did they lose a Super bowl with that loss? I don't know. I hope they can, you know, shore that, but their studs flat in and flat out. I expect them to go on a tear right now and possibly get to, like 13. They look like a 13 or 14 win team, so we'll see how it goes. But Lions are the new number one on this week's power five. [00:35:48] Speaker C: No feedback. I'm good. I'm good. Any of this week room. [00:35:51] Speaker A: All right. I really want to do top eight, but Aaron said I was too much. [00:35:57] Speaker B: Keep it top five, man. It's just more interesting. [00:35:59] Speaker A: God damn. So tough, dude. You got, like the packers lurking, lurking around the corner. Got a few teams lurking around the corner. [00:36:09] Speaker C: Should we do a bottom, bottom five? [00:36:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I would like to do a bottom five. [00:36:14] Speaker C: I mean, you do enough lists. I think there was. I forgot what I'm. I don't want to bring Formula one into this, but there was some magazine article. Someone put out, like, the 15 hottest Formula one drivers. There's only 20 Formula one drivers. So we did a list of 15 out of 20. Like, just like you. Just like, who are the five that weren't on the list? You know, like. [00:36:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that's funny. [00:36:33] Speaker C: So, so if you roam, you do like a top, you know, 25 NFL team. We're just leaving seven. Seven teams out, you know. [00:36:41] Speaker A: Well, I thought, like eight. You know, it's like the quarter of the league. It's kind of nice. Everyone does, like a top ten. It's like, that's like a third of the league. Is it really? [00:36:48] Speaker C: Don't let, don't let Aaron, like, dictate your segment. Rome, do you want to do top eight? You do top eight. [00:36:55] Speaker A: All right. [00:36:55] Speaker B: Keep it top five, man. Keep it top five. It just seems so interesting. This is much more interesting. [00:37:00] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that's a power top five. Anything else about the NFL. [00:37:08] Speaker C: Now for this week? I think, you know, we'll be back here in a few days, go over lines for next, for the next week coming up. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Cool. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Let's take a break. We'll come back and talk about college football and some baseball. We're back after a quick little break. Jason's eating chocolate, trying to reenact my chip segment from a few weeks ago. We'll post that on socials. Pretty funny, but college football, pretty wild. Man. The Oregon Ohio State game was crazy. Colorado, Kansas State was crazy. The Penn State and USC game was crazy. Going down the wire. What else? I feel like I'm missing, like, some upsets. It's just so much football. [00:38:00] Speaker B: I mean, a lot of good games. I mean, Big Ten probably still the show. Like you mentioned, Rome, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, USC. You're just about to get to Alabama escaping against South Carolina. [00:38:10] Speaker A: They should have lost that game. [00:38:12] Speaker B: Two point conversion failed by South Carolina. Had them wide open. The pass just sailed on and then recovered the onside kick. Can't get in the field goal range. And then Florida against Tennessee. Tennessee again on the ropes. You got two programs, Tennessee and Alabama, both on the ropes, and they played this weekend coming up. So it's a, it's a big weekend in college football for sure. [00:38:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So with that Alabama game, no way he's winning the Heisman. He has to be out of the, out there running right now. Right. [00:38:41] Speaker C: I mean, I think running back out of Boise State is far away. Heisman, frankly, now. Yeah. [00:38:49] Speaker A: And then I'm kind of ready for him. [00:38:51] Speaker C: I mean, at this point, there's no reason why Boise State doesn't win out, too. And then, you know, he wins the Heisman and their only loss is to Oregon. Right. [00:39:01] Speaker B: So that's the, what, 1.2 points they lost to Oregon, I think was 3938 or something like that. [00:39:07] Speaker C: Yeah, 3734. But, yeah, so, I mean, they, they, and they play. I mean, you can look at their strength, the schedule all you want because they're playing. [00:39:16] Speaker B: UNlv is their only next big game. Outside of that, like you said, jason, they should run the table. [00:39:21] Speaker C: Yeah. And then, you know, you. A win against Oregon or a loss against Oregon by three points at Oregon, too, like, you know, that's, that's a great, great loss. And they're far and away, you know, going to be inside the playoff at this point, and I. Heisman trophy winner for, for Ashton. [00:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Right. [00:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah, he's their front runner, and you gotta remember that game. Oregon had a kick return and a punt return for a touchdown. So if, you know, Boise State had sharpened up the special teams, you could have been looking at an upset there by Boise state, and probably they'd be a top ten ranked team. But, yeah, I think. I think of the non power four group of five teams, boise state right now, they're the team everybody's looking up at. [00:40:02] Speaker A: Colorado also had a chance to make some noise, came up a little short. Kansas state escapes. I think Colorado actually might be a decent team. Right. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Maybe. [00:40:14] Speaker C: I mean, they got a lot of singular great talent on the team. I think. I think that'll probably be a matchup, dependent, you know, game every week for them on kind of where their top end, you know, skill guys are kind of lining up against the opponent at this point. So I. I mean, there's no shortage of talent for Dion. The question is, can you build a cohesive, you know, top to bottom roster in college football with, you know, the 24 guys you need and then some depth behind that just through the transfer portal? And overhauling the roster every year, I think, is the question, do you, do you build a cohesive team out of that? And I don't know. I think it's still out for the jury. They got the talent, but it's still the big twelve. I think there's a lot of sneaky good teams in there. That's. It's going to be, you know, a lot harder for Colorado down the stretch. [00:41:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, the big twelve is like the old Pac twelve. Like, anybody can knock off anybody on Saturday. Like Jason said, Colorado has a ton of individual talent. I mean, Shadir Sanders, you know, Travis Hunter, these two guys could go in the top five, and yet the program could finish below 500 as the season goes on. You know, can they continue the recruiting? They're not really recruiting. They're just bringing in 50, 60, 70 new transfers every year. I think 90 new transfers. They brought in year one under Dion. Their defense, they have no depth. They can't stop anybody from running the ball. They play man to man on defense, which is great when you got a guy like Travis Hunter, he's a shutdown guy, but everybody else on your team can't cover me. So Colorado, I think the jury still outd. I think big twelve got really fortunate. Cam rise and Utah, Jason's guys out. [00:41:50] Speaker A: Dude, out. [00:41:51] Speaker B: Season. Utah suffered another loss in the big twelve. [00:41:55] Speaker C: Cam's coming back for year nine is what I'm hearing. [00:41:58] Speaker B: My sources tell me he. My sources tell me there's. There's a big time chance that he will. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Amazing, man. [00:42:05] Speaker B: So whether or not that's in Salt Lake or if he decides to, you know, hey, maybe. Maybe Dion's going to need a quarterback next year, so keep an eye on that. [00:42:15] Speaker C: I think Deon's gone next year, but that's just me. [00:42:19] Speaker B: I think it's stay around one more year. Deon okay. [00:42:22] Speaker A: Yeah. His son's gonna probably stick around, right? [00:42:24] Speaker B: No, he's going. [00:42:26] Speaker A: No, he has two kids on the team. [00:42:27] Speaker B: I think the other one's a senior. Yeah, I think he's a senior. [00:42:31] Speaker A: Yeah. The one that just came back from surgery. [00:42:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:34] Speaker A: Okay. Never mind. Yeah, he's probably gone. [00:42:38] Speaker C: I think one thing this weekend, too, I want to kind of go back to the Big ten you were talking through. So first year of, you know, this expanded Big ten, you got the four major west coast teams part of that. Sawing some interesting stats on there on Twitter this weekend. Just around Big ten teams traveling at least two time zones for conference games are three and ten. So this is the only conference that's really spanning all four major us time zones is kind of going through. The only wins were Indiana beating UCLA, Minnesota beating UCLA, and then Penn State coming back on USC. So, you know, these teams going west or east to west right now, you know, capped off by that Oregon State or Ohio State loss at Oregon. Like, it. It'll be very intriguing on how, you know, this really nationwide conference does in college with them. You know, the amount of travel involved, and this is just football. You know, I know we're. We probably not going to break into a ton of the other sports, too, but I can't imagine, like, men's water polo that's got to go from you at UCLA out to Rutgers or whatever the heck kind of travel these teams are going to have to do for these other sports, too. But just there, I think some very interesting stuff. And you know, what's going to be potential upsets that are, like, not great for the. The big tens overall standing, getting playoff teams, because you could have a, hey, Midwest team travel two time zones and lose and knock themselves out of the playoff. [00:44:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I read an article over the weekend. Can't remember what school it was, but someone hired some NASA scientist or Caltech people to try to find out a better efficiency for the traveling for all those sports teams, because now they're going to be having issues and now I guess they're starting to realize that this is kind of expensive, that, uh, they're trying to figure out whether it's going to be profitable at the end of the day. So there might be conversations about restructuring the conferences again, where it's more travel friendly for these things, like, as if no one fucking saw it coming. [00:44:39] Speaker B: Oh, it's profitable in football, but, like, football it is. But like jason mentioned, water polo, volleyball, sports like that, yeah, they're going to suffer. I mean, I even heard Penn State doesn't even have a Runway long enough for them to fly their sole program to USC. They got to go to Harrisburg, drive 80 miles on a bus and then fly over. So. And, you know, James Franklin's trying to get a new Runway paved over there a little bit longer so they can get a full staff and plane on in just one trip. [00:45:07] Speaker A: Well, yeah, football has to be so profitable, though, to pay for all this. And that's the thing. [00:45:10] Speaker B: Like, is it what's profitable, man? Football is. [00:45:13] Speaker A: No, but football pays for everything else. Like, overall is going to be profitable. That's the question now, because as it pays for all these other schools to do the same fucking thing, I think. [00:45:21] Speaker C: It'Ll be intriguing on how, you know, how big, you know, how big will the profits be for the College Football Playoff and what, where, how does that continue to grow? And then the other thing is, I don't think we're done with cop conference expansion at the same time, too, because everyone in the ACC is unhappy with their television deal. And, you know, is, is the ultimate goal for the Big Ten. Do they get to 20 teams that they're at? Are they at 16 now? [00:45:47] Speaker B: You know, I think the big Tens got 18 teams, right? [00:45:50] Speaker C: 18 teams. Okay. I mean, what's stopping them to go to 20 teams? They add two more west coast teams at a certain point, and then maybe, you know, you're, you're dividing this thing up, like, you know, east and west at that point. And you just have 210 team conferences, like with or within a time zone of each other. Like, as you get into the long term, I think, you know, geographically, I think things will work out, but I don't know, like, the hot names, I think always for the Big Ten are Miami and Notre Dame. So I don't know if it makes it any better because they basically would have a school at all four corners of the country at that point. [00:46:20] Speaker A: Yeah. There's also a conversation how the PaC twelve should make a comeback. The Mountain west just finally got their 12th full time school with you with Hawaii committing. So they're gonna be a conference to stay around. But I think the, is it the big ten or the big twelve? One of them. The PaC twelve is like their nemesis and their goal is to completely just eat everybody up at that conference within five years. I believe I read like by 2030 they don't want the conference around anymore. [00:46:49] Speaker B: That'd be the big twelve. They definitely have it out for the, they definitely have it out for the Pack. [00:46:53] Speaker A: So it's a big twelve. Yeah, I read a really good article on it and I was like, oh shit, they're, they're not fucking joking. So if you remember, if you remember. [00:47:01] Speaker C: At a certain point the PaC twelve was going to be the one devouring the big twelve because they were rumored to get Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech or Texas A and M or something. I don't know. [00:47:14] Speaker B: There was, there was and then a went to the SEC and then something happened. Oklahoma, Texas. The Pac twelve got cold feet and didn't want to pay the buyout at the time or something. [00:47:23] Speaker C: Speaker zero. Yeah. Cuz because that was the big thing is they were gonna decimate the big twelve at the time and make that kind of the first super conference, which is kind of a huge missed opportunity of work. Consider that conferences now. So I mean, the PaC twelve at this point is two teams and then they're just merging a bunch of mountain west teams into the back twelve. So this, this is just, you know, it's got the name Pac twelve, but it's the Mountain West Conference still at this point, just adding, you know, two pretty remote, you know, universities in Oregon State and Washington state. I mean, Oregon State's in a beautiful place, but Corvallis, Oregon is in the middle of nowhere. [00:48:00] Speaker B: So, so is Pullman, Washington. They're both in the middle of nowhere. [00:48:06] Speaker C: Yeah, so I mean, not, not exactly like the big, the big stuff you're going to get if they're in, if they're in a revamp back twelve, that's basically a mountain west. A kind of on upgrade. Okay, what it is, but I think at a certain point the ACC is going to be targeted when that contract's done. I know it's still got some time on it, but Florida State wants to get out. Miami probably wants to get out a certain point. So, you know, who is the SEC going to target if they're going to expand beyond their 16 teams? You know, are they? You know, because Florida State's, I think, interested in SEC ties. So I mean, there's a lot that is still going to go there. That'll eventually change, you know, maybe what the travel is around these conferences where you're just going to have three major football powers and then sub subdivisions of them for the travel benefits. [00:48:52] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see how that goes real quick. Aaron, all your games to watch were pretty fun. I think I caught, like, a little bit of a good half of them. I think UCLA almost pulled out the upset. Uh, that was really fun to watch, surprisingly. Jason, you should have watched it. I know you said it was gonna be a bad game, but it was actually really good. [00:49:12] Speaker B: UCLA should have won that game. I don't know. I don't know what. DeShawn Foster wasn't going for it there on fourth and like half a yard. Man, why'd you get a punt? That's what cost him the game you want. You're one in four. Just fucking go for it. [00:49:23] Speaker A: I thought they got the first down. I don't know if you have challenges. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Yeah, sure I saw it. Yeah, he was sure. I was watching it at the time. [00:49:30] Speaker A: Yeah. LSU, Mississippi. [00:49:33] Speaker B: Yeah, we didn't talk about that game. That was a big win for LSU. [00:49:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:36] Speaker B: In overtime. [00:49:38] Speaker A: I like Ole Miss. They should have won that game. They got lucky. LSU got lucky to escape that. It was a fun game. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Yeah. I would agree with you. I think Ole Miss showed a lot. You know, we talked a lot about them losing to Kentucky. They didn't look good. They bounced back and blew out South Carolina the week before Rome. I agree. They outplayed LSU. Just a few mistakes here and there. They let LSU hang around in LSU late, drive late in the game to tie it up of a touchdown and then win an overtime of a touchdown. But it was a good game. [00:50:11] Speaker C: At this point, though, Ole Miss is going to have to win out to be considered for the playoff. And. [00:50:15] Speaker A: Oh, they're out. I think that's it. [00:50:17] Speaker C: Well, I mean, they have to win out. That's where it's at. I mean, they. Oklahoma, they got this week. I know they're on rank, but it's still Oklahoma. And then they got Georgia. That would be the biggest game that they have to win. And then Florida, while not great, still a competitive game. And then a rivalry game against Mississippi State at the end of the year. So good team. But, yeah, I think the Kentucky loss was. [00:50:39] Speaker A: They couldn't afford that. [00:50:41] Speaker C: They couldn't afford that one. And then LSU. I mean, LSU continues to get talent. I'm not the Brian Kelly believer. I think he did some good things at the beginning of Notre Dame. And then was just almost got fired by Notre Dame and somehow turned it around and then parlayed it into this job. But I think he held Notre Dame back to a certain degree. And, you know, LSU, a lot of fans are not, I think, over the moon for his performance, but you think how bad the end of his predecessors tenure was there. They were, I think, below 500 teams. So they are better under Brian Kelly from getting talent, but I think still a tier below in the SEC the past couple of years. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Yeah, LSU, man, they're kind of like one of those programs. Like if they go ten and two, they consider it a bad year. They, they believe too much. And what they got going on at Arduin, like Jason mentioned, had that program in the dumps below 500. Brian Kelly's a great recruiter, a lot of talent at LSU. He won at Cincinnati, was the only guy to win there before they came back up. He did a great job at Notre Dame. Notre Dame was a mess. [00:51:48] Speaker A: He brought it back. Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I, and, you know, now LSU, he's, he's got them top ten, top 15. They don't look pretty sometimes. LSU, they lose games they shouldn't, but he's won prime time games. He's beat Alabama back when Alabama was their prime team, number one ranked with Bryce Young. Now this game victory over Ole Miss, I don't buy LSU being a real playoff. They may make the playoff, but I don't consider him a national championship threat. Yeah, they're definitely still a mess. [00:52:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Kelly, ever since I heard that fake southern accent, what he got down there, I don't know what to think of him anymore. But I did like him at Norre Dame and nowhere else. [00:52:30] Speaker C: He was just, he's just pandering to the audience, you know, just, hey, I'm just, I'm just down there. I'm trying to be part of the team. Let me give you a little southern accent. [00:52:37] Speaker B: What they do, that's what they do in the south, man. You gotta ponder to the audience. [00:52:40] Speaker A: They're trying to see any other games that kind of stuck out in my head. Arizona, BYU, Notre. [00:52:47] Speaker C: Notre Dame. 47 49 to seven, victory over six. [00:52:50] Speaker A: You did call it. Yeah, you did. I saw two minutes. Once I saw the score, I'm like, all right, I'm done. I'm not, I'm not going back to this one. [00:52:56] Speaker B: That's why that, that's why that game didn't make the game. Just keep an eye on it. Wasn't worth it. [00:53:00] Speaker A: It makes a lot of sense. [00:53:01] Speaker C: I'm at, I'm actually very intrigued with Notre Dame. I know no one wants to talk about but them, but they do. Their two hardest games of the year potentially are going to be army and Navy. [00:53:11] Speaker A: They're both ranked now. [00:53:12] Speaker C: They're both ranked. Notre Dame plays both of them this year. You know, very, I think, very interesting down the stretch, but that'll be because. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Are they at SC or does SC come to Notre Dame? [00:53:22] Speaker C: They are at SC. That would generally be what the thing, I mean, the playoff could be on the line at that point, but generally. [00:53:28] Speaker A: Speaker, three. [00:53:28] Speaker B: Army's for real, man. Army is for real. [00:53:31] Speaker C: Yeah. So Notre Dame schedule to me isn't as easy as people probably saw at the beginning of the year where they got Georgia Tech coming up, probably not that hard of a game. But then they got Navy. They're going to have Florida State, which generally you think is a hard game, probably not that bad this year. Virginia, but aren't. But then army and USC to end the year. So the Army Navy game, and I know as everyone's looking at because there's a, there's a chance army and Navy play for the conference championship for the american. These are the AAC, the athletic conference. And they could play the conference championship game and then a week later play the Army Navy game just for the, just for the, the heck of it, for the tradition of the, the Army Navy game. So there and then both of them or one of them could potentially be in the playoff or knock the other out of the potential playoff based on, you know, the stakes of that game, too, which is just extremely interesting. Cause you haven't got the service teams, I think, within like the grasp of a national championship in a half a century. [00:54:25] Speaker B: I think what's interesting about Army Navy is they're not running like the t bone triple option and all that. They're literally throwing the football up and down the field. And I think this was kind of surprising. People like, they just, they put on the film, they go, this isn't army. This isn't navy. You know, this looks like, you know, Tulsa or Toledo or somebody out there throwing it all over the field. Give them credit. [00:54:46] Speaker C: No one checking the ranked, no one checking the nil money coming from like our tax dollars or something like that. This is, this is, this is where. [00:54:54] Speaker B: The biggest world money is right there for sure. [00:55:00] Speaker C: It's like, hey, if we're in a prep of any college football programs with a bunch of nil money, let's just be our tax dollars. We'll pay. [00:55:05] Speaker B: That's, that's why I don't know why Hawaii is not any good. I mean, there's so many billionaires on that island. Why don't somebody want to just buy a football team and be like, the billionaires of Hawaii? Just have a good football squad. [00:55:15] Speaker C: That's what I would be doing. Yeah, 100%. I mean, I think these guys are gonna go to the other islands at this point, but, yeah, I I still. How Hawaii doesn't have, like, a state of the art facility and just recruit and just people to come hang out in Hawaii for four years is kind of baffling. [00:55:31] Speaker A: They're pretty terrible. Also, Vanderbilt had a good win against Kentucky. Kentucky. [00:55:38] Speaker B: I love Vanderbilt, man. Love him that. I hope they keep the story going. [00:55:42] Speaker A: And then Texas just demolished Oklahoma, man. They look like a legit, number one top dog contender for me. [00:55:49] Speaker B: Georgia this weekend. Big game. [00:55:51] Speaker A: This will be good. Who you guys got? Or I will save it, I guess. [00:55:56] Speaker B: Yeah, we got that on Thursday. Yeah, still. Still breaking down film on the games. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Still bringing down film. Yeah, man. It's gonna be a lot of fun. All right, cool. I think that's it. Let's take a quick break, come back, talk some baseball to do it. Talk some baseball. All right, time for a little baseball talk. Lots of games have happened. We got out of the ds. Now we're in the Cs. Cleveland Indians. I mean, guardians. I don't know why they changed it. I would like the indian mascot, but they're going up against the Yankees. I was at the bar at Aces at New York bar, especially a yankee bar. Lots of fun. Yankees fans. They're pretty fucking interesting. Uh, they're so ready to jump on. Um, Aaron judges nuts. Like, every time he, like, has contact with the ball, they think it's a home run. But he finally got one today. He got a second RBI and then finally a home run in today's game, too. Looks like they're leading pretty comfortably. Let's start with that, I guess. What? Unless you guys have some comments of how the alts ended with either series, Casey against the Yankees, or guardians against the Tigers, which is pretty fun on Saturday. [00:57:19] Speaker B: What Lane Thomas, with that grand slam there, carried Cleveland over the top, over the Tigers. And then, you know, Yankees obviously won in four games. And now, like you mentioned, roll up to owe Aaron Judge for this first home run of this post season ace is going wild. I think I heard him, you know, jumping up and down once. He came live on the air once that game went final. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. The dude Tigers, right? Scuba? He gave up the grand slam. I found my notes. It was like a fastball down the middle. Yeah, Thomas hit that at the bottom of the fifth and they asked, like, Thomas. [00:57:57] Speaker B: Thomas came over from the Nationals, right? National League, Washington Nationals. Yeah. I remember in the fantasy baseball league, he was doing pretty good for some people. Yeah. [00:58:06] Speaker A: Scooball. Pretty. [00:58:07] Speaker C: Not me. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Not you. I was glad he was gone. Allow me to catch some ground up in the stolen base category. He was hurting me there. [00:58:15] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:58:16] Speaker C: But I mean, a well earned victory versus guardian because it was. Aaron mentioned it, I think, in our preview ahead of that game. Going against the best pitcher of baseball this year with scuba and, you know, to be able to, you know, put up seven in that game when you're facing the guy who's been shut down all year, that's definitely a deserving spot for the Guardians. And we talked about it was more nationally biased for having these teams that got the buys that have kind of collapsed in the division series with this new playoff format. But going chalk with the one two seeds of the Yankees and Guardians in the American League and what were pretty much the two best teams down the stretch for the most part. A lot of parity, I think, within the American League with a bunch of teams having a lot of kind of streakiness throughout the year. And the Yankees, particularly when they were going through their struggles, there was a lot of, you know, strife in the New York media of them blowing the ale sleeve. But I think these are the two best teams in the American League. The Guardians, definitely with one of the best bullpens, you know, of this decade, maybe, and probably one of the best closer seasons with Cola class a did of all time, you know, rivaling, you know, like Mariano Rivera. So down now. Oh, two in the AlCs. I it'll be tough for the Guardians to make the comeback as it head back to Cleveland with the Yankees, you know, with this lead, but pretty good series so far, even though, you know, the Yankees are up to. [00:59:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the issue of the Guardians, Jason mentioned the bullpen is great. They were one of the best teams in the american league all year. But can they score runs? I think they're averaging three and a half runs per game this postseason against a lineup that's important as the Yankees. And Yankees got a good bullpen in pitching themselves, that's not going to get it done. They got to score some runs, got to get an early lead, jump on the Yankees, put some pressure on them. They're unable to do that going forward, especially game three, game four. Could be a, could be a quick series. [01:00:17] Speaker A: That game was pretty interesting. Yankees left like a lot of guys on base in the first several innings and judge until yesterday's RBI and then today finally break it through. He's been pretty cold. This playoff was his name. Cantillo of Cleveland. He just had like some wild pitches, like four wild pitches that one inning. And that's how the, how the Yankees got some guys on base and kind of blew that game open a little bit. [01:00:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, that, I mean, all the highlights of this is pretty much been Judd's home run, but Aaron's highlighting. But, but I think Aaron highlighting the Guardians inability to hit. I don't know why. Maybe it's just because I watched too many Guardians games against the White Sox. I feel like Jose Ramirez hits three home runs and every homer. [01:01:00] Speaker B: Today he did. [01:01:01] Speaker C: Homer. [01:01:01] Speaker B: Today he did. [01:01:02] Speaker C: I think I literally turned after I turned, flipped away from the game and turned it back on. He homered. But opportunity, I think this is a team that they're, they're athletic from the guardian standpoint. They manufacture runs, then have a few big power backs that, you know, like Ramirez that can, you know, get the ball deep. But when you got the depth of power that the Yankees have and if it gets going at all and they, you know, they, they got some, you know, one b starters with Rodan and a few others on the Yankees that be able to, you know, be quality starters. I think jumping out to early leads for the Yankees to avoid the Cleveland bullpen, you know, is how they're going to close the series out to get to the World Series. [01:01:41] Speaker A: Nice. Let's talk the other league. I guess so. I was really excited watching the Dodgers play. It had no expectations because a bullpen game. We did talk about some last podcast, right? I feel like we did where it was one of Robert's best called games, I think, ever. [01:02:06] Speaker B: And now the game four we talked about. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Okay, cool. [01:02:09] Speaker C: We talked about it. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah, then, and then game five. Man. [01:02:16] Speaker B: Pictures dual. Really, I mean, Darvish was really good for the Padres. Well, he gave a home run, but in the second. And then a solo shot there in the 7th to Tesco Hernandez, who we talked about being. I thought he was the biggest offseason signing the Dodgers had. [01:02:32] Speaker A: All big, dude. I'm a big fan of his clutch. [01:02:35] Speaker B: You know, he's not afraid of the moment he comes up, he gets big hits. He's been doing it all season. That's something the Dodgers haven't really had. Oh, Tani's with nobody on base is over his last 19 and then hitting six or eight with runners, runners on. There was talks about maybe moving him down the lineup. Roberts put a shutdown of that so he will bat lead off game three. [01:02:55] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:02:55] Speaker B: Yeah. But I mean, the Dodgers tied, I believe, a record for postseason play with 33 straight scoreless innings between starters and bullpen. That, that itself is remarkable given how hot the Padres bats were going in. And, you know, the Mets shut out game one and then game two right off the bat, jumped off to that 60 lead and, you know, rode their mania in the bullpen to a victory. [01:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Really good rebound game from the Mets. What made that little run, as you mentioned, Aaron, about the pitching, is because the Dodgers have been struggling with pitching for years. It's, it's as achilles here has been their achilles here for like a decade now. Every time they get to the postseason, they have no, nobody left. Everyone's burnt out. So really impressive. Kiki Hernandez coming in, clutch. Seems like he just, he's just one of those guys that gets really hot, gets up, just like Soto on the Yankees. But we'll see how it goes, though. Aaron, I'm assuming you're going. I'm assuming both of you guys are going for the Mets. I don't. I don't know. [01:04:00] Speaker B: I mean, I want the Mets to win. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, I had the Dodgers in six when the series started. I'll stick with Dodgers in six, but I definitely rooting for the Mets, for sure. [01:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm the same. I'm with Aaron. It was Dodgers in the 6th, but I'm definitely rooting against you. Just, you know, just for your suffering. You know, it's just. But I, I mean, Aaron and I were saying it long ago. We've repeated the podcast, like, going into the playoffs. It was really going to. We thought it was going to be a Phillies Dodgers, you know, against the Yankees in the World Series. And those kind of being the three teams that were the class of the league, obviously, the Phillies, we were wrong about, and the Mets are here in this spot. But the Dodgers still to have the talent that should be taken to the World Series. I think if you're, if you're a conspiracy theorist, I think that Major League Baseball will take anyone from the National League versus the Yankees, the Guardians of the only odd man out. But a Dodgers Yankees World Series, I think, would do numbers, but I mean, obviously a Mets Yankees World Series would do numbers, too, so. But I think the Dodgers have just, you know, they, they've been long overdue to have one of these, you know, World Series runs within, you know, the regular 162 game season. I know everyone's going to throw them for the, for the COVID year. It was a legit year, but I think it was, it was a very different postseason and stuff. But this has been a team has been, it's been a team that's been great for a long time. Like it's the envy of majority of baseball fans for how the organization is ran because, yes, they spend a lot of money, but they're also one of the best, you know, farm system organizations in the league because they're able to trade, you know, anyone and everyone because they have a wealth of prospects and they let dudes walk left and right that are top tier guys and they're going to always going to have a backup kind of behind it. So, yeah, I think just, you're expecting more from the Dodgers because, you know, compared to Aaron's Atlanta Braves through our entire childhood of the nineties, you know, they were the class of baseball, but they only delivered, you know, the 95 World Series and that was it. And, you know, the Dodgers need to make another kind of run here during this era and put a World Series together because they should. They've been the best team in baseball for a decade now. [01:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, like you said, jason, I mean, the Dodgers, they got to do it. They've had disappointing losses against, you know, the Astros, the Red Sox. I mean, in that span, in that span we've seen the Nationals, the Braves win World Series from the National League. The D backs, who kind of came out of nowhere, have been into a World Series. The Rangers, who've been irrelevant for the last decade, have won a World Series during that span. So it's time for the Dodgers. They spent the money they got. The players can't, can they get to the finish line. I mean, the Mets, they're scrappy. We didn't expect them to be here. You know, they were ten games back of the Braves. You know, they've mentioned back in early June, caught them, surpassed them. It just seems like when the moment gets tough and you think the Mets are going to fold, they've, they've stepped up, thought the Padres are ready to take that leap. They weren't. So we'll see. I mean, if the Dodgers get it. [01:07:10] Speaker A: Done, I just think like this iteration of Dodgers, like, as Kiki said at the end of that game, if I win, they just don't give a fuck. And I feel like, like I kind of heard those rumors. We, we caught a Dodger game earlier this year all all three of us, you know, we saw Hernandez hit a home run, so hell, hit a home run. That same game was really fun, but this one kind of feels a little different. Like, they seem, like, mentally tougher, which I think maybe that that has also been, like, a lacking part for the daughter. So I'm excited. I don't want to jinx it. I'm just really happy just to see my team competitive, so I'm just going to go with that. But that team has been competitive for. [01:07:47] Speaker B: The last 1012 years. [01:07:49] Speaker A: Like, Jason, fuck that. You know what I fucking meant, all right. I'm just happy. [01:07:52] Speaker B: I think, I think, I think, like you said, rome, I think for the Dodgers, not giving a fuck is like, hey, we know we've choked. Yeah, we're owning it now. And now we're ready to take that next step. Let's see if they can, let's see if they can finish it. [01:08:06] Speaker A: I feel like that's what it is. Yeah. [01:08:07] Speaker C: The, the telling signs have been when you got like, like, Mookie did not start out on the greatest parts of the post season, but then, hey, got it going, got, you know, got some key hits, you know, a home, like one or two home runs he had, you know, in kind of those, those stretches. So, like, they've been able to get it going and not have like, hey, it's a one to 34 performance or whatever in the playoffs. I mean, for the Yankees side, you're looking at that now. Judge gets a home run and has like, a big moment and some of these things in the post season just, you know, kind of compound, you know, it's like postseason hitting is hard. Like, these are tight, generally tight games and where things are at. But once you start putting a moment or two together and the momentum goes, like, a lot of things change, you know, in a short, you know, games, you know, best of seven series. [01:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah. One thing I heard about Roberts, he's like everyone who's been not doing so well, so even once he, Freeman, everyone's been getting hits. He's just telling them like, just relax, dude. Just go out and hit. Don't overthink about it. And it seems like it's. They responded. They had a pretty good, valiant effort. I think it was like in the fifth or 6th ending to try to come back basically loaded. Mets did a great job on getting out of that pinch, but should be a fun series nonetheless. I hope judge does well, just not against my dodgers or if we make it that far, but we'll see if the Dodgers don't make it. I'm going for the Yankees all the way. [01:09:31] Speaker C: You might be the only person, man. I mean, you know, the Yankees fans are probably the same Cowboys fans we were talking about earlier in the podcast, so I figured the Yankees were making it. You're going to have, you know, 49 and a half states rooting against the Yankees in the World Series. [01:09:51] Speaker B: I mean, I can't stand the Yankees for all the heartbreak they've given me over the years. As you can see, nothing left on top from all the Yankees losses by the Braves against those guys. But, you know, I can't stand Rome's Dodgers. So if they do get there, I'll be rooting for the Yankees to beat the Dodgers. Anybody but the Dodgers. And I'm happy. [01:10:10] Speaker A: Fuck crazy, dude. All right, I think that's it. Unless you want to talk. Yeah, that's it. I'm not going to talk about WNBA basketball. [01:10:20] Speaker B: Played another game since, basically. So we're good. [01:10:22] Speaker A: They did game two. Liberty came back. [01:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get. We'll cover that on Thursday. [01:10:27] Speaker A: I got through the win. I don't know. Whoever wins game three wins the series. [01:10:30] Speaker B: Liberty are going to win it. [01:10:33] Speaker A: Yeah, well, the fact they've been up like 15 points plus on both games, they just fucking dominated. They just. They just did a choke job in game one, and they'll do it. Thanks, guys.