Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Good Morning Vietnam.
The source from the sofa. If you guys know that movie reference, you get like 10 extra bonus points to this week's picks.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: All time Robin. All time Robin Williams performance.
[00:00:17] Speaker A: It was really good.
Sad though. Sad movie.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: Very sad.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: All right, so it's our last edition of the lines for the year week 18.
I did the tally somewhere, but it is really close. I had a couple good weeks.
Aaron, you had a terrible week last week.
[00:00:39] Speaker C: That was a bad week. Rome.
[00:00:40] Speaker A: And I think we're just like one or two games apart, everybody, so should be fun.
I think Jason still has the lead, but we have game Saturday, Sunday. That's it, right?
[00:00:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: Game of the week.
We have a few big games of the weeks this week. We're recording Friday morning. Is this Friday?
[00:01:05] Speaker C: Yeah, today's Friday feel like a Friday.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: But yeah, Today's Friday the 2nd and this is the day after I got admit, man, I was in and out of sleep throughout like most of the college football games and they really disappointed. Having a bye week really is not good for college football teams, let me tell you that.
Now we got two years of data for that. So tough way to go out for everyone who lost yesterday.
Any quick comments before we get into today?
[00:01:35] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I think you mentioned in the bye week, Indiana in the two years of this, the only school to actually win when they're getting the bye weekend. Winning convincingly too.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: Oh, dude, they beat the out of Alabama.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: I think there's, you know, I took, I took a lot of stray shots for the Notre Dame stuff when Miami was able to advance. But I think the other, the other school that was in the mix that never was talked about was Alabama. And while they did get the, you know, the Goodwin versus Oklahoma, you know, just getting blown out thoroughly. And I know Rome, you gave me slack last year when I talked about the SEC and the overall SEC bias for stuff. But you know, they continue to prop up that they, they deserve five, they deserve seven teams. And when you have a team that got blown out in their championship game does get a win but then gets blown out in another game like the SEC dominance that they think they have does not, is not, does not exist. And so the, the oh my schedule so hard because they play against each other. Like there's a narrative versus what the reality is. And I think some of these, you know, you got two years in a row now where SEC teams have come up short in these against other opponents. Georgia losing to Notre Dame last year. Alabama getting boat race by Indiana right now. So you know, it's when we come down in the playoff, I think there's this default thing in the seatings of all the sec. So hard and this and that and it is a hard conference. But these other conferences are much more closer now with the nil and everything. We continue to say that, but it's how many years before they start scripting, you know, before this narrative starts to change a little bit.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: Yeah, Big Ten, really good conference. And yeah, SEC, it's weird. You get rid of the PAC 12 and now all those PAC 12 arguments where like they start beating up each other but they didn't get the benefit of the doubt. Alabama after yesterday's showing, I'm like, dude, Notre Dame should have been in the playoffs. Like maybe the SEC game was the, the tell all sign that they were just not going to show up for one of these big games and they didn't. Again, it was really bad.
Not good at all.
[00:03:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean touching on your guys's point, I mean the SEC this year is top heavy. It's an overrated conference. I mean the Big Ten is kind of taking the, the lead as far as the main power conference. They've won the last two national championships. It looks like they could be in pace for third. And, and yeah, Alabama did win a road game. Guess what it gets another SEC team wasn't against a non conference opponent. So Alabama again non conference opponents this year have really blown them out. Indiana start the year or in the year and then really Florida State to start the year in Tallahassee. Big games for them. They've not shown up on basically neutral road sites.
Indiana look good. First team like you guys mentioned, one in seven now teams off extended by which is basically about 25 to 30 days or more.
So I mean Indiana looks like the most complete team in the country. Ole Miss, I thought Georgia played really well. That quarterback Trinidad, he was just, he just made some awesome plays in the fourth quarter. If he doesn't do what he did, I think Georgia advances. But I mean his play was spectacular and the semifinals should be pretty good. When we got matchups with what Ole Miss, Miami rematch, Indiana, Oregon. They met middle of the season out there in Eugene. So I think these are some good matchups, good games.
Agree with Jason. Your guys take Notre Dame was a playoff team should have been in. I had no problem with Miami getting in. The argument was, you know, are they top 12 team? Yes. Miami is, is Notre Dame. Yes. Should you know, Tulane, James Madison been in? No. And the SEC down here, I guess they'll point out that Texas beat an Michigan team that basically has half their coaching staff gone and they'll claim that they're still better than the Big Ten. But agree the Big Ten right now is the power conference, but they're top heavy too.
[00:05:24] Speaker B: So yeah, I would say the other disappointing probably was Texas Tech and where the Big 12 has been too, because I mean the Big 12, like ultra parody. We talked about it in the season preview that there was a number of teams that could have win. Texas Tech felt dominant within that conference and then for them to come out and just get dominated in a bowl game like they did too. But now it speaks to, you know, the Big 12 may have had the argument for getting two teams in because it was BYU was, was right there kind of with Notre Dame and they lose twice to Texas Tech and then your champion gets blown out by Oregon in this playoff. And I think this is where, this is where arguments and biases start to show themselves a little bit when you have, when you have some of these things in there. So, you know, we don't want the group of five. The Big 12 is not showing worthy of showing up in either year.
Those narratives probably stay, but the SEC will be the narrative. We still be talking about next year.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Crazy stuff.
And then the Pac12 reemerges next year with their A team conference.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah. What, what is the, what's the makeup of those eight teams?
[00:06:26] Speaker A: They're all state schools. I, I just saw like a front sports article this morning. I was trying to wake up, had my alarm go off at 6. That 6:30. That's 7.
But I don't know, just a lot of state schools, plus Gonzaga, it's Texas State, Fresno State, Utah State, San Diego State.
[00:06:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: Some of the Cal states that are D1.
[00:06:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
Is Colorado State in there?
Colorado State, Yeah.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: And then they got Texas State. Cool. We'll recap all that stuff later on. Feel bad for Lane Kiffin not being part of the playoff.
[00:07:03] Speaker C: I don't think Ole Miss is better off without him.
[00:07:05] Speaker A: They did pretty well. They done pretty well. I, I think they're playing with like a sense of like him. Yeah, yeah, they are.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: I know, I know. I brought up the argument which I didn't, I didn't agree with. But you know, just bringing the, them losing their coaching staff and stuff of whether they should get into the tournament. But I think this is, you know, Air mentioned, you know, Trinidad and everything like that. You know, that's, it's a type of game changing player that you have. And I just think Overall, like, you're right, Rome. I think there's a sense of, like, okay, this guy didn't want us, but we're going to prove a point that we're national championship worthy, you know, within this. And it was. It was a great team all year. That's why I think. I'm sure the decision was not easy for Lane, as much as he pissed a lot of people off, because, hey.
[00:07:46] Speaker A: He'S such a good team, though, man. I, you know, to not let your coach finish it.
[00:07:51] Speaker B: I mean, I mean, you. You decide to go to the rival, and we talked about that before, but I bet that's. That probably weighs on you that, you know, in the long term for him, LSU is probably the smarter thing because it's going to have resources. It's one of the premier programs as far as the way college football looks. And they have the history of winning versus the Ole Miss doesn't. But now, hey, you've built this over the last five years to this point where this is. This is the crescendo point. You don't get to see it through. Yeah, I mean, that, that, that, that does suck. But, I mean, his decision. So, I mean, it'd be. It'd be crazy if they do run the table and like, you know, you know, the guy that succeeds him basically just coaches the postseason and parlay this straight into actually getting the job and what that does for the program moving forward.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: Yeah, no big win.
[00:08:32] Speaker C: Well, people didn't even want the job.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: He didn't.
[00:08:35] Speaker C: I mean, even when Lane Tiffin was going to leave, but then he heard other names that were rumored, he was like, screw it.
I'll just. I'll just take it.
And it's kind of a no win for Ole Miss because, I mean, if Lane Kiffin does say he coaches and they win, it's all Lane Kiffin. It's not really Ole Miss. Now. Ole Miss can say, like, hey, it's. It's really the players and not the coach.
And we'll see that. Yeah. But, I mean, Charlie Wise Jr. Like I said, I thought I would have given him the job. He's done a great job on offense.
And Pete golden, the defense, actually give him credit. They stepped up in that second half. That's what was a big key. I mean, Georgia's had nothing going offensively. I mean, Kirby Smart trying to run fake pun after fake punt to try to get back in that game, get the momentum back on their side.
It's going to be interesting. I mean, how they match up with Miami. Miami's you know, D line has dominated both of the O lines. But now, you know, Trinidad, he's a scrambler. He can make great plays. It. It should be a great matchup.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: Miami's looking really, really good.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: They looked great. They were good at the beginning of the season preview. Like that's. I mean, that's why I picked them to win the ACC and you know, talked about that in that preview game where they can be competitive is like have. In the past it would have been used. Do you have the SEC caliber athletes in the trenches? That's what you would have said. Pre nil. And they do now. Like they, they got guys that are probably going to play on Sundays. It's big athletic people. But Aaron brings up the point of like, yeah, the athleticism of Chambliss. You have a, you know, the game changer in here and can you keep them involved? But you know, my. Miami's got. Miami's got athletes. It's, it's. You know, we got into a bad discussion because they should have dominated the acc. Like plain and simple. Shouldn't have been. Shouldn't have been. It shouldn't have been the argument.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: It looked like they cleaned up some of the play calling, especially on the defensive side.
Some of the miscues from the later half of the season.
[00:10:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, and I think the other thing just, you know, offensively and where game management and stuff comes into. With Mario Crystal balls, we like talk through like, I mean, I'll be honest. I got. They were up big and we're thinking or, you know, up two scores to start the game and then all of a sudden that game starts coming. Coming back to them a little bit and you're worried about like, hey, what you're gonna do. But they're able to pull it out like it's.
[00:10:39] Speaker A: It.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: It's a legit team that. That could win the national title. And I, I think just the narrative around them became too much because you lose these games in the middle of the season, which, you know, weren't great losses, but it wasn't like they lost to like the bottom feeders of the ACC at the time. Yeah, but it was like, hey, you should have been a step above the rest of this conference and dominate. You know, the similar. The way we saw, you know, Indiana and Ohio State really kind of run through the Big Ten throughout the year. Like that's. I think that's what you expect with Miami in a conference that's, you know, a tier below the Big Ten and sec.
[00:11:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Miami is an interesting team because they've relied on their defense realm. I mean, their defense has just been dominating games early in the year. Carson Beck was lighting it up.
You know, I think he was like 15 touchdowns probably in the first five games. I mean, big games. Notre Dame had a big game and then he had the four interception game that Friday night against Louisville. They got upset off a buy. Then he had another bad game against smu.
To what Jason said, Miami's been vanilla on offense. Basically it's been, hey, let's not have Carson Beck do anything stupid. Our defense is dominating. Let's keep the run game going. And when Becks needed to, he made some big plays late in that game with his feet in a couple throws.
It'd be interesting because I think they're gonna have to score a lot of points against Ole Miss. Just, you know, despite how good that defense is, Ole Miss is even against an SEC defense all year, has scored 30 plus points. Whether it's against Georgia, Texas, whoever they play, they can score points. So I think it's gonna be a interesting game, high scoring game. But Miami's gonna have to open things up offensively. But yeah, I mean, to what Jason said, they are built like an SEC kind of Big 10 team in the trenches. They rely on their defense. Mario Crystal Ball's old school. If you. Every interview he does is all trenches, trenches, trenches. That's what he want, what he wants to win. But eventually, you know, your key star players, quarterback, wide receiver, are going to have to step up and make a big play. Miami does have guys that can do that, so we'll see what happens.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: Nice. Let's transition to NFL lines of the week. Today's coffee brought to you by High Wire. I want to plug him in, maybe see if we can get him as a sponsor. Really delicious. Based in the East Bay, strong as.
No, no, that's it.
All right.
This, this list, dude. Like whoever puts this thing together for circa.
[00:12:58] Speaker C: Hey, Ron, they must be hanging out with you on Find them.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: I'm gonna find them. I'm gonna show them how to use a goddamn Excel sheet.
[00:13:05] Speaker C: Well, next time we're at circa, you know, contest weekend, you can ask around to find out who that guy is or a cow and hire me.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: I'll do it.
[00:13:14] Speaker C: Get on it. Get on it. I'll do it.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: This is, this is bad.
This is really bad.
[00:13:17] Speaker C: I didn't notice how bad it was till Jason's text. I'm like, oh, wow, this is really bad.
[00:13:21] Speaker A: I just glanced at it because I was like half Asleep. I'll say, I'll look at it later. That just right now I'm writing down the lines of my dude, like I.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: Was the first I looked at it. It's the first thing I noticed. I didn't even look at any of the lines. I just looked at the times. I'm like, why are these times like. And like 125s are on the left hand side?
[00:13:37] Speaker C: Yeah, 10am and then this is really bad.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Well, my previous like theory defending the, the great folks at circa was like, hey, they make these at the beginning of the year. It's just like, you know, they just have the whole thing mapped out and then they'll just make the adjustment of where things are at based on time and switches and flexing because of TV and stuff. And so that's, that's just my assumption going in because that's what it looked like last time because you know, you got your, your flex game now. I, I don't know if the Titans jags the original Sunday Night Football slate or something like that on this. I mean that'd be my only question. I don't, I don't think that would have been the NFL's thoughts year. But yeah, this one, this one is a little bit all over the place. I, I wanted to defend, you know, the great folks at circus sports, but I don't know, I just, I thought of Rome right away. It would have been no other topic of just like he's gonna.
[00:14:27] Speaker C: Well, like I mentioned, I think last week, according to my source is AD circa. They've kind of been throwing this scramble schedule out just to piss Rome off because they know it gets under Rome skin. So the last, last one of the year for the new year, as we might say.
They really put this one in shambles.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: It is bad.
All right, so starting off Saturday, final NFL lines of the year. We got Panthers, Bucks. Bucks by two and a half for the division and for the number four seed, winner goes home.
Wait, there's still a scenario where the Panthers still get in, right?
[00:15:05] Speaker B: There is.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: Even if they lose.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: If the Falcons win, the Panthers are in regardless.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: So the Falcons win, Panthers are in. But the best team in that conference right now is the Saints, is that correct?
[00:15:18] Speaker C: That sounds the hottest right now.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah, the Falcons have looked pretty good too here recently.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: So they look like we thought they might look like.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: And by good, I mean they won a game last week against a really good team.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: And your guy Pitts has had at least one good game.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: All right, Aaron, you could you kick it off for us since if you've gone against Aaron the last two weeks for college football and NFL, you'd be a rich man.
[00:15:46] Speaker C: You'd be doing pretty well, you know, after weeks 10 through 15 in the NFL, winning weeks all those weeks. So hopefully week 18 I can close out on a strong note. Feel pretty good about it.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:15:56] Speaker C: I mean, look, Carolina, the line's weird. Two and a half. I think it was three earlier.
Tampa, I mean Tampa's been a complete mess. We've talked about how they got guys back, but they just really haven't performed. I think Baker and guys are going to show up for at least one more time.
I don't think it's going to matter because I don't, you know, I do believe Atlanta is going to win this week. We'll get into that game. But I'm going to go Tampa here minus two and a half. Bucky Irving, I think he's due for a big game.
The passing game for Tampa has been bad. But Carolina, when you think they're done, they show up and win. But I'm, I'm gonna go one last time. Todd Bowles, New Year, Baker, they're not going to go out with at least a loss. I'll take, I would bet, if you're betting the Bucks money line but for the contest here, I will go two and a half.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: Tampa Bay, you can just copy and paste what you've been saying for like the last three weeks because the Bucks have not shown up yet.
[00:16:45] Speaker C: I know. So I'm, I was really, I put it this way, Rome, I was really, really leaning Carolina and then I was like, you know what, I've been playing bad. Let me just fade myself on this one. And I think Tampa is going to show out so I'll go with the box.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: Jason.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Yeah, as much as I, as my, my mid season prediction of being the Panthers competitive for the playoffs and I should be choosing them, I mean it's really going to come down I guess to the last drive for Bryce Young or wherever it's at because that's where it's, that's where these games are decided. Him, bring him back. I think Rome, you talked about how many fourth quarter comebacks he's had in the last two years. But I, I, the feeling for me is just like with Aaron, for this Bucks team, they got the talent, they've gotten a bunch of these guys back. The offense isn't what it was in the first four or five weeks of the year. But like this is a, this is a must Win game for them the Panthers. It isn't as must win. And I, and I just think the Bucks should have won this division easily and this is the last time for them to show up.
I, I would still take the two and a half. I know Aaron said lead money line. But I think regardless, I mean, I don't think it's going to come down to a one score, you know, one score, one point game. I think at least a field goal of the Buccaneers could win this by.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: I, I'll, I'll just roll with you guys. I'm not feeling good about the Bucks though. This team looks banged up. Mayfield has looked like ever since he was in the MVP conversation. So good luck. Seahawks 49ers tough. Oh, wait a minute.
[00:18:06] Speaker C: That's right. Oh yeah.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: That is tomorrow night.
[00:18:08] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: Sorry. This thing's throwing me off. That's tomorrow night.
[00:18:11] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: Y tickets are expensive.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: Arguably. Game of the week.
[00:18:16] Speaker A: Game of the week. This is for the number one seed. Yep. For the NFC West.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: NFC for bye week.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: Just for everything.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:18:27] Speaker C: Everything on the line.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: That's kind of cool.
[00:18:30] Speaker C: That's really cool. That's why tickets are standing room only. What, 800 bucks? Rome?
[00:18:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. First round the playoffs are selling for that much.
Ridiculous. All right, Jason, who you got?
[00:18:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean coming off, you know, one of the games of the year with the Bears last week, the Niners look great, Purdy look great.
And you know, this is a team that's risen to some occasions this year in some tough games. You think about that, you know, Rams game earlier in the season, you know, the shootout with the Bears last week. And this team's had tons of injuries, specifically on the defensive side of the ball, but the offense is really clicking. You know, Purdy's got, you know, no matter kind of who's in, he's able to, you know, find receivers even if you haven't heard of the receivers that they would have in years past with no Iuk, no Debo. But Christian McCaffrey is also having a massive, you know, bounce back year. Does he have a thousand receiving and a thousand rushing or something at this point?
[00:19:25] Speaker C: Very close.
[00:19:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:26] Speaker C: I think he's trying to become the first player to do it two times at that position of running back.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: So just, you know, just crazy, you know, you know, chemistry between Purdy and him and what he can do offensively. You know, the Seahawks is a good team, but I, there's, there's questions for me with Darnold in these big games still. And when it comes down to this until he can prove me otherwise on it. I'm going to take the Niners on this.
Yeah, plus one and a half. You're gonna give me some points too.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: He did it last week. You don't think he'll do it again?
[00:19:56] Speaker B: Nope. Darnold, well he had a big game.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: A couple eight couple weeks ago.
[00:20:01] Speaker C: I mean the defense I think won that game for them last week. What 2710 running game.
Yeah, I mean Seattle, we talk about them. This is the best team. I would say actually the best team in the road. But the patriots just finished 8 0. But I mean the Seahawks, schedule wise they play some real gauntlet of teams. They're only lost coming up against the Rams.
This is a rematch of week one in which Brock Purdy throws late TD to win it.
Going back to Jason's point, you know Sam Darnold, we saw him in the same spot last year, winner take all against the Lions. Probably his worst game of the year. Probably easily cost himself 50 to 75 million dollars on long, long term. Big deal. Contract 100 Rome. Your guy Brock Purdy's playing the best football I've seen him play this last month. I mean that toe injury, you know, say what you want, maybe it's slowing them down early in the year but he's been balling out 49ers. Kittle, Ricky Bursall, all those guys are questionable likely to play. Even Trent Williams, the star left tackle hall of famer questionable to play 49ers has been finding ways all year to win.
I love the Seattle defense but I'm going to go Purdy over Darnold here. I know this kind of been a revenge. True for Darnold. He beat Minnesota this year, just beat Carolina. Lost the first rematch against the Niners. But I believe in Kyle Shanahan. I believe in cmc. I like the Niners to win outright, get the first round buy. So I'll take the one and a half of the Niners.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: I forgot that Darnold was there for a year but I really think that really helped him out. I think that was like the fulcrum point in his career.
I got 49ers. Even if it's a close game, I'll take the point and a half.
All right, on to Sunday and this is where we're going to zigzag a little bit here. We're going to start off with Pack visiting the Minnesota Vikings.
Eight and a half point favorites for the Vikings. Kind of surprised from this love is out. Correct. He's he's clear to return, but he's gonna rest for the playoffs. Vikings. Who's playing quarterback this week?
[00:21:54] Speaker C: JJ.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: JJ's back.
He's had a pretty decent year. When he's. Well, he's played like what, six games.
[00:22:04] Speaker C: Maybe? It's hard to say.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: He's had like three epic quarters. Hall of Fame quarters.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: Hall of Fame quarters. Okay.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, and then, and then. Now his face is infamous on memes for everybody this year for not showing up in big games.
Eight and a half over your team. Aaron, who you got?
[00:22:26] Speaker C: Yeah, Romy mentioned Love's not playing. Willis isn't playing. You got Clayton Tune making the start at quarterback. Packers got a lot of guys out. Injuries, just kind of just guys that are banged up. They want to get rested up here. They're locked in as a number seven seed. Minnesota has been playing hard.
JJ there, I think with this defense. Brian Flores, last year of his contract. Is he going to be back in Minnesota? Is he going to get a head coaching gig? Is he going to go somewhere else? I think Minnesota shows up. Green Bay's got nothing to play for. Their wide receiver. Room is banged up. Running backs, everybody. I like Minnesota here, minus eight and a half. This is a game they should win by at least double digits given what the packers got on the field.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Jay?
[00:23:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with Aaron. Like, just absolutely nothing to play for for the Packers. They're just about getting healthy for that first round match, you know, potentially against the Bears and the Vikings. Yeah, there's, there's a lot to prove. He meant Aaron mentioned Flores. I think there's some others guys on this roster trying to, you know, get something going for the next season, you know, as, as kind of bad as their season was prior. Like, there's some games Minnesota has generally showed up with and they've, they've, you know, they've looked good about almost like the team of old. I think just some consistency on. Out of the quarterback play has probably been just, you know, the biggest difference year over year.
But I, I think this is a game definitely the Vikings should win handily.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: It sucks. Yeah, because the Vikings took a gamble, man. They're a loaded team to go with jj. JJ is still pretty raw, has a long way to go, but we'll, we'll see.
[00:23:52] Speaker C: We're.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: I think we're still like a year or two out, but eight and a half is just a lot of points though, even against a depleted packers team. I'll roll with you guys, though.
Colts, Texans, another big spread. Texans favor by 10 and a half Colts.
[00:24:07] Speaker C: Who they.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: Oh, they got who they are starting this week.
[00:24:13] Speaker B: Rivers starting, right?
[00:24:14] Speaker C: No, Leonard. Leonard starting.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: Leonard. Yeah. Your Notre Dame guy getting a look since now they're officially out of the playoffs from last week's loss.
Aaron?
[00:24:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, Colts are done. Riley Leonard making his first start. We've only seen him, what, in two quarters of action in that game when what? Daniels got hurt. He came in, played against Jacksonville. Houston still got his outside shot at the division. If they win, Jacksonville loses. They can jump in regardless. If they win, they lock up the five seed, which means they'd be either going to Baltimore or Pittsburgh. A loss here could, you know, derail that to where they actually go into New England or, you know, Jacksonville.
Hard to say. Rookie quarterback against that number one defense, Rome. You've been alluding to him for the last two months. Super bowl defense. I think they show up, I think they show out.
First time quarterback against that unit. I just don't like the Colts here. They got no run game. Riley Leonard might play well, but tough matchup here. I'll take the Texans at home laying the ten and a half.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Wow, Jason.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a big spread. We always haven't been successful. Looking at these big spreads ones and when you look into end of the year, who's playing, who's not, regardless who's quarterback. For me, I just haven't felt, you know, the Colts offense where it can be. Aaron mentioned the running game and where, you know, that was at the beginning of the year when the Colts were on their run versus what it is now. That's probably been the biggest difference. I think that's what made, you know, Daniel Jones so successful. We opened a lot of things up downfield, you know, rookie quarterback Rome, you said Texans, super bowl caliber defense. How are they going to score points in this game? Texans got something to play for. They need to, you know, kind of amp up for the playoffs. It's a big spread, but I'll agree with Aaron and take the Texans.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Oh, man.
[00:26:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: Ten and a half. I'm trying to go back to Texas have been winning, but they don't really have many wins to even cover that type of spread.
Biggest win in the past month and a half against the Jags. They won by seven.
Good team trying to find a comp here.
[00:26:20] Speaker C: They just beat Arizona three weeks ago by 20. Rome.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: Really?
[00:26:24] Speaker C: Because I was on schedule.
I was on Arizona plus nine and a half in that game. It was a 40. It was on 40 to 20.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: So it sticks out.
All right, unanimous Here, not digging it. I'm just also feeling really lazy in my picks.
Browns, Bengals. Is that correct?
Next 10:00am all right, Browns, Bengals. Another big spread. Bengals fared by seven and a half.
Shadora Sanders and the Browns costing my Steelers.
I hope that organization rots in hell.
Jason.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: What a preamble to this game.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: I like them. I hate the Browns. I don't want to see their logo, their name.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: I just want to confirm Aaron Burrow's playing, right?
[00:27:16] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah, Burrow is playing.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: All right then. I, I just, I just don't see how the Browns keep up with, with the Bengals offense at this point. I mean, the only thing I think we're looking for in this game is going to be can Miles Garrett, you know, get the sack on Burrow. Probably.
But I. There's no reason why I'm not trusting the Bengals, who, you know, have gotten the offense going, you know, since Burrow's been there. I guess you're questioning Bengals all the time on their defense, but what can, what can the Browns do offensively right now? I mean, I think back to the past couple games where they were at, like, you know, you look at that Bears game, they couldn't get anything going offensively and the Bears don't got a great defense either. So I'll take the Bengals.
[00:27:53] Speaker A: Aaron?
[00:27:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, Joe Burrow, this Bengals offense, since he's come back, they've looked really good. I think Zach Taylor, like I've talked about, still coaching for his job. When they win this game, I think that's their, what, eighth win of the year? Seventh.
So it's a big game.
The, the Browns won last week, but they're depleted. I don't even know who's showing up roster wise for them.
And Jason touched on it. Bengals defensively, not great, but the last month they've not been bad. I think players coaching staff are all playing back. I think Zach Taylor wins this game. I think he's back next year as coach because they're going to be 5 and 2 with Joe Burrow under center of a win this weekend.
I agree. I don't think the Browns just can keep pace, score points.
I'll. I'll take the over too. I like the over as well, but I say the Bengals win this one probably 31, 17.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: I do like the over on this one. I think that's like, that's a good lock. Bengals actually have been covering the spread with, with Joe Burrow in all these games, so I'll lock in with you guys on that one.
Does Shore come back next year?
Does Stefanski come back next year?
[00:29:01] Speaker B: Stefanski is the weird one, man, because it's just like there's been things about does he want to even be there? But they don't want to let him go. But obviously he, you know, wants to be a head coach in this league. He's seen as a good coach. I've never seen guy with such a good reputation for a team. It just hasn't been, I mean, how long has he been there, Aaron? Five years?
[00:29:17] Speaker C: It feels like five years. Well, maybe, maybe more because he, he took over.
Year was covet year. Right. And they got to the playoffs. They beat the Steelers. They beat Rome Steelers. Was that his first year? Second year.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: That was disgusting.
[00:29:32] Speaker C: So first year. Yeah. It's been at least five seasons.
[00:29:36] Speaker A: Yeah. They ruined a.
Yeah, you're right.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: 20, 20. He signed a five year contract.
[00:29:42] Speaker C: So did he ever sign an extension? Do we know?
Or is this like his contract runs out?
[00:29:48] Speaker B: No, he did sign an extension in 24.
[00:29:52] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: So I, I, I think Stefanski's back. I think the weird thing is division. Rome. I think Rome, you touched on like everyone getting fired. I think the safest coaches in the division are the two in the two last place teams are Stefanski and Zach.
[00:30:06] Speaker C: This is matchup. This is a matchup. I agree.
[00:30:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Because the Browns or the, the Bengals don't fire coaches. Like, they wouldn't get like Marvin Lewis was called for fire for I don't know how long. Like, and so they don't, they don't want to pay nothing. They're, they're notoriously one of the cheapest organizations out there.
[00:30:22] Speaker A: Yeah. They got fined for not cleaning the, the chairs. They had snow on it. You're supposed to clean the chairs for the, for, for people to come to the game and they didn't do that.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: Buffalo gets the whole city of Buffalo. Every fan comes out and does it over there too.
[00:30:36] Speaker A: They pay cheap. Yeah. Those guys just love that team. Dude, they could get people.
[00:30:40] Speaker C: That's all they have.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:42] Speaker C: Cincinnati or Cleveland, they got other stuff, but yeah, go ahead.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: Isn't it weird how Garrett has not had the record yet because he was like on target to hit it like week 12 and still, like not a lot happened since then.
[00:30:55] Speaker C: Well, Rome, obviously the Steelers were more worried about him last week and just kept throwing the ball away quick. I think he got a half a century sacked a game previously against Josh Allen. Now the easy quarterback to sack. He's going to get against Joe Burrow. I mean, I, I go Back to week one, I think he sacked him at least one and a half times, if not more. So he'll get. He'll get the record here.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: I really want the, like, BS bootleg sack, like Far Strahan and this too. Just doing a bootleg and just lays down for Miles Garrett. Yeah, I just want that controversy, you know.
[00:31:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he did do that, huh? I forgot about that. There's like a cool ESPN doc about that.
Cowboys, Giants. We got two more morning games. Let's speed through this one. Giant Cowboys Fair by three and a half on the road.
51 over under. Pretty high, Jason.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, the. The Cowboys, you know, they've had these kind of moments throughout the year. I mean, offensively, you know, they. They can find. It's really just on the defense when you don't have, you know, and top five pass rusher and you're deleting or they really. They released a Cornerback in week 18. You know, we just. We couldn't keep Diggs an additional week ahead to get rid of him now for this defense. Seems like an interesting choice out there, but I still like the Cowboys offense. I still like what Dax doing out there.
You know, your guy, you know, George Pickens and where he's been able to step up. I know they haven't always been him and CD in the same games producing, but the Giants, they. I just. Rome, you're always higher than Giants, than me. And I. And I don't. I don't know what to say for them at this point. But, you know, I did. I did see Russell Wilson on the New Year's Eve celebrations with Sierra. So apparently, I don't know. He had no. No practice time or prep. He just stays up till midnight and in. In Times Square out there in New York.
[00:32:44] Speaker A: Oh, no, man. I. I did see the beef, though, with, like, future. Was that the. Is that the guy? There's more people.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: Yeah, there's more people. Yeah, that was all. There's more. There's new.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: He had a bad quote this past week saying that he. He thinks Russell Wilson's soft because he's raising another man's kids. But, like, it was just like, dude, you're not even raising your own kid. Like, that was not a good quote. It was. It was not good.
[00:33:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a. That's a terrible.
[00:33:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:12] Speaker C: Your own kids. Okay.
[00:33:13] Speaker A: But if you're not to call another guy soft for raising your kids, like, that's. That's pretty.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: I'd pretty. I'd pretty much say that's the Opposite of things. It's him stepping up to raise.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: So, yeah, a lot of.
[00:33:24] Speaker B: A lot of criticism for Russell Wilson, but that would not be one. But look at Russell.
[00:33:28] Speaker C: Wilson's down and you might as well take your shots at him now because, hey, everyone, for the most part, people are going to agree with the shots that he takes. I'll disagree with that one.
[00:33:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:37] Speaker C: Giants, look. Giants got nothing to play for. They're locked in right now as a number two pick in the draft. Winning does not help them out.
Cowboys a lot to play for. The chance to get that 500. 8. 8 and 1. Literally 500.
So I'm going with the Cowboys here. They still offensively could do a lot of things. Plus, the Giants got players out. Illness is going through there. Like, it seems like about a quarter of their teams out. Not practicing with the flu.
Giants nothing to play for.
They got, you know, they beat the Raiders, who wanted to lock in the number one draft pick. So I like the Cowboys here. Three and a half.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: I'm going the same. Saints, Falcons, Falcons Fair by three and a half over under 44.
Aaron, who you got?
[00:34:19] Speaker C: Saints, Rome. You guys mentioned been the hottest team in that division, but Chris Olave's out, blood clot in the long. He's the number one target.
[00:34:26] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:34:28] Speaker C: Atlanta coaching staff's playing for their job, too. Raheem Morris, whether or not you think he's safe or not, kind of quiet name to keep an eye on. He loses this game, he could be out.
A lot of talent. They showed up against the Rams. I believe they show up again here. I'll take the Falcons minus three and a half, but I think it's gonna be a big public play.
Might be a good fade play here, but I'll ride with them. The Chris Olave injury being out worries me. I think the Saints kind of run out of luck here.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: Jason?
[00:34:54] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:34:55] Speaker B: Agree with Aaron.
They're the Falcons win these games once. They're out of contention all the time. Very impressive last week. I think the offense, you know, they're getting the ball in Bijan quite a bit and he's, you know, really showing out to be the playmaker. He can be. They get pits involved, you know, when. When they can. Darnell Mooney has been, you know, making some plays here recently, too.
But yeah, the Saints, you know, way better than probably we expected them at the beginning of the year when it feel like, hey, we just faved the Saints every week and that's going to be the play. Now I'm not as Confident, you know, right now saying that as I would have been, you know, in weeks one through eight.
Because, you know, this team, they're building something there for, for all, for all they've gone through. They are, they are building something there. So, you know, I think that's good to see for Saints fans, but with, with Atlanta something to play for specifically, as they mentioned, Raheem Morris with his job. I'll take Atlanta as well.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: Yeah. For all the reasons you guys mentioned. Falcons to make that playoff situation more difficult last morning game, I believe. Titans, Jags, jags fair by 13.
Jason.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: Yeah, just a, a big spread for the Titans. How are they going to score points? But then in some of these games they have scored some points, they've been scoring points lately. And the Jags, you know, they play tight. They play some tight games. I mean, you think of last week against the Colts in a game that, you know, you're playing against. Philip Rivers is good. It's because he was.
But you know, you play them to less than a one possession game.
There really isn't like the blowouts the last couple weeks, but then they did play the jets and blew the heck out of them, you know. And then the Colts in the first time around, the previous meeting with the Titans, they beat him 25, 3.
This one is in Jacksonville. The division still on the line. I think there is, you know, something big to play for for the Jags. This is, you know, looking like a threat, you know, in the AFC. The AFC's pretty wide open because people aren't believing in some of the top seeds, you know, like Denver, whether, you know, or that's going to translate in the playoffs and stuff. The Jags, I think, Aaron, like they're like the fifth or sixth betting favorite in Vegas to win the super bowl right now. Like, you know, yeah, they, like, they. I looked the other day like they have better odds in the Bears than some of these other teams out of the nfc. So there's something here. And Trevor Lawrence, I mean, for the fantasy watchers out down the stretch, like he was the fantasy play and where he's stepping up towards the end of the season. So, you know, I, it's a big spread and I don't love it, but I do think the Jags are a good team. Like what Liam Cohen's building. I'll take the jags. Minus 13.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: Aaron.
[00:37:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Extremely high number. I mean, the Titans had been playing really well.
Kind of collapsed second half when the Saints came back and beat him last week. That was one of the Dogs I was on that just didn't come through. Jacksonville still has an outside shot to get to the two seed, plus they got to win this game to win the division. We'll see what happens with the Broncos since they have a tiebreaker if they end up the same record there.
Tennessee, they do turn the ball over a lot. Jacksonville has a great defense.
Trevor Lawrence, as you guys just touched on some playing his best football over the last month as well.
It's a high number. Likely the Titans probably backdoor this one and it ends 3120. But I'll, I'll go with the jags here minus 13.
They, they got to get the win clinch the division which would likely set up a matchup with possibly Buffalo. So that'd be interesting. So I'm going Jags -13. But I, I, this wouldn't be one of my top plays at all.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it looks like Jags have have some pretty big margin of victories here for the season. Not so much earlier in the year. But as they've been heating up the offense, they've been blowing teams out with similar competition. Tie ins though starting to turn the corner the late eight or half. I'm really excited to see how everything plays out for them, who they hire.
But you're probably right. Aaron probably back to recover. But I'll, I'll just roll with the 13 here. Afternoon games.
We're gonna backtrack here. Is that Dolphins?
Dolphins Patriots 125. A lot of 125 games this week.
[00:39:07] Speaker B: I mean that's what we'll be deciding like playoff seating and everything here towards the end of the thing. So I think this is where, I mean this is the, I guess this is the best 125 red zone action we're gonna get since September probably because you'll have a lot that we're looking to play for.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's crazy.
All right.
Dolphins Pats. Pat's favorite by ten and a half.
Aaron.
[00:39:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Patriots still have an outside shot at the one seed. Obviously the clincher division last week. Dolphins really nothing to play for. This is corny. Where's his what third start first on the road. Waddles kind of banged up. Each hands banged up. Both guys may or may not play.
I think the Patriots show up and ball out. I'll take them -10 and a half here at home.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: Wow. Jason.
[00:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Last week the Patriots almost looked like they were trying to get Drake May the MVP and what he was doing to the Jets. And Aaron mentioned the key to me not only Quinn, yours. But the HN injury. I mean, this would probably be something to watch going in. You know, if HN's not playing, I don't have a ton of confidence that they'd be able to keep it close. They do have some, you know, pretty solid backups, but he's. He is the playmaker that kind of makes that offense go right now.
And the Patriots kind of just show like, variable. I'm playing my guys, I'm gonna run it up.
And I, I think, you know, you're looking for Drake may to have a big performance. It's him, probably him versus Stafford for the MVP right now. I know people don't say they watch that, but I mean, I, I think people maybe try to prove a point. New England, that they got the guy and if, you know, they get a quarterback that wins the mvp, it could be. It could be a good storyline for them. So I, I'll. I'll take the. I'll take the Patriots minus 10 as well. 10 and a half.
[00:40:50] Speaker A: If HS not playing, it's gonna be really reliant on their tight ends. Miami still has some pretty decent ones there.
[00:40:56] Speaker C: I think Waller's out as well.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Really?
[00:40:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:00] Speaker A: How about the other guy that used to be married to Kelsey Plum? Plume.
[00:41:03] Speaker C: Yeah, Waller.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: Oh, sorry.
[00:41:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I believe he's out. He's not been practicing. A lot of these guys have not been practicing.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: I was so disappointed when I found out she was married to him. It's like, God damn it, there goes my chance.
[00:41:14] Speaker B: She's not now. I don't know what you're wallowing about.
[00:41:17] Speaker C: Yeah, she's in la, man. Who's she playing for?
[00:41:18] Speaker A: She's in la.
[00:41:19] Speaker B: She's in la, right? Yep.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: I'm about to get some tickets. I have to get some kids, get a sign going, take my daughter, marry my daddy.
My daughter doesn't want me to get married anymore. She just wants to keep me to herself. So tough loss.
All right.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, if HM plays, I think Dolphins have a chance, but if not, if everyone else is out, then Pat's easy.
Chiefs. Raiders. Chiefs here by five and a half on the road in Vegas.
Very low 37.
Aaron.
[00:41:53] Speaker C: Yeah. We mentioned last week the Raiders basically putting all their main guys on ir, deactivated everybody to try to get up that secure that number one spot in the draft.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: Almost got it last week.
[00:42:04] Speaker C: Kenny Pickett makes a start here.
I like the Chiefs to win. I like the Raiders to cover. I'll take the Raiders plus five and a half. Feels like a field Goal game I have. The Chiefs offensively can't really do anything anyways with the third string quarterback. I think they had less than 100 total yards against the Broncos. This will be one of those ugly games that ends like 16 to 13. But I'll take five and a half.
[00:42:23] Speaker A: Of the Raiders real quick. Man, with all the stuff coming about Kelly, how much like the decline of Gino, was it on actually being on Gina or was it just Kelly, just him over in the whole offense with his being there but not being there with the play calling, going over schemes, all that stuff.
[00:42:40] Speaker B: I think it was probably a mix. I, I, I, you start to question Kelly's like overall success in the pros versus kind of what he did in college. I mean we talked about that. Like is he still living off the Oregon tenure? I mean that's just good coach but I mean for was he highest paid assistant this year.
[00:43:02] Speaker A: I think he's lazy.
[00:43:04] Speaker B: I don't know if I go that far. I would say Rome, there's probably an, there's probably a middle ground between it. I don't know if Gino just has the, the supporting cast like he did in Seattle to make him as successful as he was in these years where he got the starting job in Seattle, you know, because just really wasn't much in the offensive line. It wasn't great for Oakland. They couldn't run the ball with genty all year. The wide receivers, you know, were average at best. Bowers was out a ton of the year. So I, I think there was, there, there wasn't the support for Gino and I think that's the type of quarterback where hey, Gino's a veteran, knows what to do. And then like the interceptions, they weren't great. A lot of them were bad. But I think it's a guy just trying to force something and try to make a play and make it happen versus he probably was more when you're throwing to Metcalf and you know, Jackson Smith and Jigba and, and he had somebody like reliable like Lockett, like that's just a different like feel versus hey, I don't got really any guys. And maybe if my offensive coordinator is trying to do a thing that doesn't work for me, it's probably a mix. I don't know if I go as stream the lazy call like you, but it definitely wasn't worth the money that they were putting in there because I don't, I don't think the offensive innovation that I think he's herald for, you know, what was something you could do with what the Raiders personnel had.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: Who you got this game? Jason? Oh, sorry Aaron.
[00:44:23] Speaker C: Just touching on. I mean Chip Kelly agree with what you guys said. I mean I don't think he's lazy. I mean he just got another job in college going back which they just hired your new Heisel junior. He's going to Northwestern too, so. And I mean look, he just won the national titles. The OC for Ohio State. We saw what Ohio State's offense looked like down the stretch here at the end of the season. So he's, he's a sought after coach. I think he's more of a college guy than an NFL guy. Was he worth the 6 million? No. I mean going back to the Raiders. Raiders offensive line is probably one of the worst in the league. Brock Bowers, like Jason said, hurt his knee week one was never the same player missed like five, six games. They don't have any wide receiver that would probably be number three wide receiver on any of the top teams right now in the AFC or nfc.
So they don't have anybody, they don't have any weapons.
I, I think Chip Kelly's gonna do fine at Northwestern. He'll do good in college, but I never liked him going back to the pros. But you're not going to turn down a six million dollar contract to go coach in the NFL and maybe, you know, parlay that he doesn't want to be a head coach again. So now he goes back to. He was making 3 million at Ohio State. So it's not like this guy's doesn't have money, made a successful career, took Oregon to heights that they hadn't been before and now Dan Lennon's taken to another level.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: But yeah, all right, Jason, who you got?
[00:45:44] Speaker B: I agree with Aaron about taking the Raiders plus five and a half. I mean I think the, the under thing is the most tempting for me in this game. Like offensively what can either of these teams do with the offenses they're kind of putting out?
But I, I do think it's too. Five and a half's too much for a Chiefs offense that I just don't know how they get going with. Are they on the third or fourth string quarterback and, and some of the personnel for the Chiefs this week, whoever that guy, the third string guy that played last week, he's okay.
[00:46:12] Speaker C: I think you only have like 80 yards passing room and that's okay.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: But unanimous. Raiders plus five and a half. Next game, Lions, Bears, Lions must win just for a little pride factor.
End the year.
I don't know, it's just a disappointing year. Anyways. Bears still something on the line here. Minus three.
[00:46:35] Speaker B: The two seed is on the line. They'll be going basically head to head with the Eagles.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: Nice. All right, Jason, we got.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. I disagree that there's something to play for for the Lions. I mean, this season, you know, has just been kind of a wash at this point for the Bears. There is something to play for. And I think there's also a level of embarrassment that this team has from week two where they got completely blown out in. In Detroit.
And I think there. There's. There's some pride and real playoff implications for the Bears. They showed out on the offense last week, you know, against, you know, a suspect Niners D with a lot of guys out, but still, you know, a really impressive team overall. And I think you saw, you know, you know, offensive flashes out of a lot of different guys. The Bears are getting rookies involved with Loveland and. And Luther Burden.
You know, they need the run game to work with Swift. And that was also big plays against the Niners there, too. I just think there's something with the Bears of Ben Johnson versus Dan Campbell. There, There is a. The mutual respect and admiration of these guys and what they did for each other in Detroit. But there's definitely probably a level of pride that Ben Johnson wants this one, send this regular season out on a high, go into the playoffs and secure the two seed.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: Aaron.
[00:47:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I got back and forth from this game, Rome. I mean, the Lions don't have anything to play for outside to pride themselves. They were embarrassed on Christmas Day. Probably one of the worst games golf and that team has had in the last four or five years since Dan Campbell's been there. The Bears need a win to secure the two seed. That's really important. They don't want to drop the three, which means they could be going to Philadelphia in the divisional round. If that's the case.
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Jason on this one. I like the Bears to bounce back. I think Ben Johnson, who's going to want to stick it to Dan Campbell in the Lions after the embarrassment that they suffered in week two that you mentioned, and the defense, too, for the Bears. Brock Purdy lit them up. They get a vulnerable golf coming in, who's licking his wounds. I think the Bears jump on it. I like the Bears minus three at home.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: Small correction for Aaron. They would not play the Eagles. They. The Bears are secured in a home game. So if they win, they play the packers. But if they lose, they win. Yeah.
[00:48:47] Speaker C: And they round two divisional rounds against Philadelphia.
[00:48:51] Speaker B: Yes, Correct.
[00:48:51] Speaker C: They do not want to go to Philadelphia. So that's why I think they want to win this game.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: Understood?
[00:48:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I still think, you know, the Lions haven't had too many back to back, really bad games. They respond pretty well. Still lots of weapons.
I still think they still have a lot to play for. I disagree with that. I'll take them with the points and fade you guys.
Next one. Jets. Bills.
Yeah. Jets. Bills. Bills. Fair by seven at home. 37 and a half. Is it snowing over there?
[00:49:25] Speaker B: I. I was. I think as of yesterday they were. They were paying people to remove snow from the stadium.
[00:49:30] Speaker A: So I believe it is nice.
Aaron.
[00:49:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean this is a big game for Buffalo, right? I mean they are locked into the playoffs, but what seating are they going to get? I mean if they lose this game, they drop, they stay seven, they travel to New England. If they win, it seems like the Chargers are pulling their starters. They would if they could win. It would mean they're going to Jacksonville or Houston.
Last game at the stadium, High Mark Stadium here before they close that down. Go across the street to the new one.
I don't think Buffalo wants to go out with two losses in a row there. Josh Allen sounds like he's going to play. Sounds like he's okay. Brady Cook for the jets has been terrible. The jets have given up right now. They're locked in as a three in the draft. They're not going to try to win this game. Buffalo goes out on a high mark win. I'll take the Bills minus seven here.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: Jason.
[00:50:22] Speaker B: Yep. Gonna agree with Aaron as well too on this. I just at least saw the jets versus the Patriots last week. I don't know. I don't know what's left in this right now. While the Bills haven't blown people out in some of these big spreads games all the time.
Yeah. The last regular season home game at this stadium, I think getting ready for the playoffs, you know, wherever Buffalo's at right now, like there, there is a window, there's a window for Josh Allen right now. When you think about his contemporaries and the criticism of him, it was him and Lamar Jackson not getting past Patrick Mahomes. Well, Mahomes is out and now neither, neither Lamar nor Josh are getting the first round by. And so there's a playoff here. Now. There's a lot of flaws in this Buffalo team. Aaron's been calling those out. Rome, you've been calling those out all year. The defense where it's at, wide receivers, it's pretty much a two man show with Josh and Cook in the backfield and what they can do. But there is still some magic about this team when it comes down to the stretch. But I do think there's something to play for in this game for them. And I'll take the Buffalo as well.
[00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah, cool thing about the new stadium. You'd have thought that they would have got a dome and they didn't.
They still want the weather element. I love it. It's just.
[00:51:31] Speaker C: They get.
[00:51:32] Speaker A: There's more luxury boxes and I love it.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: I. I argue with my friends all the time because they're like, no one wants to see that. Everyone wants to see like the skill on display and this and that. I'm like, no, like they're not like it. That's. That's a re. There. There are implications when you come down to, you know, the playoffs specifically of like, you know, having to go to Buffalo, having to play in Baltimore, having to play in Kansas City. Although is Kansas City getting the Dome with their $3 billion gift from the state of Kansas. So that'll be a little bit different.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: For them, but terrible fucking deal that is for the state.
[00:52:07] Speaker B: Great deal for the Chiefs.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: Oh my God, dude. Robbery. This is why you need like oversight on shit like that.
[00:52:12] Speaker C: It's.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: It's a dumb.
It's.
Brett Favre's being taken to court for stealing for the welfare of like whatever he. He, he did, which is pretty bad. I still haven't really dug into that. This is even worse.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: I'll tell you.
[00:52:25] Speaker A: Even worse.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: I mean, I don't want to bring the Bears into every conversation, but this is exactly what the Bears are trying to get out of the state of Indiana. Yeah, they are exactly what they want.
[00:52:32] Speaker A: Some shady Midwest.
Yeah, the Midwest.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I have the elements of it. To me that's, that's what you love about like every. If every game is played like at Sofi. I just don't think it, like, it's not as entertaining so far.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: Has no personality. I don't know.
It's nice though. All right, so I unanimous there on the Bills trying to see what the next game is. Commander's Eagles.
[00:52:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
Eagles. Yeah.
[00:53:01] Speaker A: Eagles favored by four points over under 39.
That's really low, Jason.
[00:53:08] Speaker B: Well, what did you say the over under wasn't? 39, 39.
[00:53:13] Speaker A: Eagles -4 is.
[00:53:16] Speaker B: I guess it is low. Commanders, are they still starting Josh Johnson, Aaron, is he getting another.
[00:53:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:53:22] Speaker B: Another nod in this one too.
Yeah, it's low. I. The Eagles resting their whole roster, I think. Right? Like pretty much nobody's playing.
I don't know. This just, this just feels like one of those games where the Eagles are like kind of conceding. We don't really care about getting the second and third seed. The Commanders, you know, there's still some pride element for them. They still got some of their big players in.
I'm feeling the commanders plus four.
[00:53:48] Speaker A: Aaron agree.
[00:53:50] Speaker C: I mean Washington is going to try to win this game. Danny Quinn is going to want to go out on a high note. Eagles, everyone's out, hurts, ain't playing. Saquon's not playing, Goddard's not playing. Their whole D line looks like they're not playing.
Unless, you know, Josh Johnson has a terrible game.
Then I think Commanders probably win outright. But I'll take the Commanders plus four.
[00:54:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it's tough because even, you know, it's a banged up team that stole into the NFC championship last year. But dude, they've been, they've been dead for like months already.
They haven't really been in a, in a close, meaningful game since they lost to the Broncos in overtime. 27, 26. Everything else they've been blown out. But it, why not plus four?
Next game is Cardinals. Rams. Rams favored by seven and SoFi Jason.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the Rams really want to get things going here going into the playoffs. I mean there'll be, you know, you're looking at seating on the line, but they're going to know going into this game kind of what they can do. So I, I guess this is a game that I would not.
It's hard for me to make a pick right now because I think depending on the outcome of that Seahawks Niners game, maybe some start sit decisions kind of coming out of that. I mean, I haven't heard much about the Rams plans, but that'd be the scary thing that it comes into. But I still just don't love anything about the Cardinals right now. And the Rams are still a solid team. You know, if you're picking right now, it's Rams minus seven. But it's a game that I look at right before pre game to really see like what, what are the Rams doing and what are they playing for.
[00:55:26] Speaker A: I still think Rams are still playing for something, especially for potential MVP for Stafford. I think he has to play at least have like a really solid first half before they sit everybody out. I think they're at least playing 1/2 here.
Cardinals have not done much on offense in the past, what, month and a half now since they were competitive in the, in the first half of the season. Also take the Rams on the seven. Aaron.
[00:55:48] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm going to grieve you, Rome. I mean, Rams could be potentially going for the 5 seed if the 49ers lose, which would be great for them because that means you're going to Carolina or Tampa Bay and you don't have to worry about traveling to Philadelphia, which could be the first round match of that wild card. Crazy. Maybe the two best teams in that NFC meeting in the wild card round.
Yeah, I mean, the Rams have looked bad these last two weeks. I don't think they want to continue this way. They're going. I, I believe from what I've heard from McVeigh, they are practicing all their starters so they're ready to go. I think, you know, Jason said it. Arizona's like terrible.
I mean, they just got blown out a couple weeks here in a row. I, I like the Rams here. -7. Rams need to get in the win column. Something feel good about going into the playoffs.
[00:56:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like it's more like a tune up game more than anything.
And potential mvp. Chargers, Broncos for the last afternoon game of the season. Broncos fair by 13 and a half.
[00:56:46] Speaker C: Why Chargers not playing the starters?
[00:56:50] Speaker A: I just been like checked out from all the news this past week.
[00:56:54] Speaker B: Just a lot, just a lot going on. And when we're talking about seating and stuff like that, because you're pretty much, you know, we're locked into the overall. Because the AFC is basically. It's just them. Is it them versus Buffalo? Aaron versus. Is it five, six, seven? That's kind of just what they're playing for right now between those three teams. I don't know this. I can't remember this. Yeah.
[00:57:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
I mean the ch. Yeah. I mean the Chargers basically are conceding going to the seventh seed here. It sounds like, wow. Which I mean, they'd be going to the Patriots because I, I think the Chargers could essentially get the five. But that would have to result in a lot of things happening. They'd have to win and the Texans would have to lose. So. No, there's. From what I gather from them, there's no point in playing against a Broncos team that must win and get the one seed and getting guys hurt and banged up going fresh in the wild card matchup.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: All right, whoever wants to go first on this one.
[00:57:48] Speaker B: Thirteen and a half is just a lot of points to me for a Broncos team that you know they play, you know, they play a lot of close games, I guess. Again, what's the stakes going to be going into New Denver, New England playing at the same time at 125. So you're going to be deciding the one seed then?
I don't know why. I'm just not. I'm just not feeling the Broncos blow them out in this game with the 13 half points. I'll take the Chargers plus 13 and a half.
[00:58:12] Speaker A: Nice, Aaron.
[00:58:14] Speaker C: I'm gonna go the opposite. I mean, Trey Lance is starting. I don't know who else is going to be starting there for the Chargers. Broncos desperately want the buy to make sure the playoffs go through the mile high there. Typically when the playoffs have gone through there, this is a team that's gotten to the super bowl as an organization as a whole. Broncos are just going to come out. I think the defense, which has struggled here these last couple weeks, are going to feast on Trey Lance and the Chargers. I like the Broncos here. Minus 13 and a half.
[00:58:41] Speaker A: Feast.
Trey Lance, huh, Gets a big opportunity.
It's kind of hard to decide like what they're gonna sit for, like their O line because aren't they already like in their second third strings on that one?
[00:58:53] Speaker C: So what they really practice guys coming up? I don't know.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: That's pretty crazy. I know some of the running backs are injured and Puka sp been in the news a lot.
[00:59:05] Speaker B: Puka doesn't play for them.
[00:59:07] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry.
He's also in the news. He's been in the news a lot.
[00:59:11] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot. It's. It's a factual statement.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: And his brother stealing. I. That was weird.
I'll go the charge plus 13 and a half.
Why not? All right, final game of the regular season here.
It's Ravens Steelers for the division and the number four seed.
Ravens here by three and a half, 41 over under Jason. Who you got?
[00:59:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, the stakes in this matchup, we're talking the division, we're talking playoffs, and we're potentially talking coaching jobs on the line. You know, it potentially loser leaves town match up here. The old.
If we're doing the old wrestling booking right now or put this in the main event. This is Wrestlemania and. And loser is gone between, you know, Tomlin and Harbaugh.
Tomlin probably. I still think you know more at. Because this was kind of everything all eggs in this basket on this season right now with Rogers and everything there.
I think Metcalf being out because Metcalfe still offer this game. Right, Aaron? And so I just think that is a, is a big blow for them. And then when you looked at the Ravens this last week, you know the Derrick Henry, you know where they can get from a running game standpoint and finally getting something going.
I, you know three and a half's an interesting line for, for that which I don't particularly love. But I do think the Ravens win this game and I think they will cover as well.
[01:00:43] Speaker C: Wow.
[01:00:43] Speaker A: Aaron, agree.
[01:00:45] Speaker C: I mean a three and a half. I think they're just begging you to take the Steelers in that hook. I think the Ravens will cover that. I think the safe play is Ravens money line. But yeah, I mean to Jason's point, no DK Darnell Washington's out of a broken arm or are they going to generate points? I know the Ravens aren't great offensively, but they only scored six points last week against Cleveland. They'll probably score a little bit more this week. But if you go back and watch the tape of the first game, DK had a huge game against Baltimore, came out first play Rogers hit him for a 40 yard pass. That element's gone. I mean gain Will is going to have to step up and have a big game. But Lamar looks like he's back. He's been practicing.
Ravens just have all the mojo. They feel like they're the heavyweight champ right now coming in this fight and the Ravens are really limping in.
T.J. watt maybe back, maybe not. I don't think it matters. I think Derek Henry has a big game and the Ravens send the Steelers home.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: I'm taking my Steelers 13 and a half. I like it. Give me points. Give me the hook.
I think the running back will have a big game.
We'll see how Derek Henry does.
Last week was his first game of getting like a full workload. All season long they've been kind of kept him in the, in the barn shed. And I'm not buying too much in Lamar coming back. He looked slow earlier in the season. He's just, it's just a banged up year. We'll see if it's that running quarterback, if this is the beginning of the end for Lamar or if it's just a bad year. Entry wise he's gonna be rusty.
Aaron Rodgers, it sounds like he's gonna retire a slight lean on coming back.
We'll see how it goes. But I like the Steelers going out on top. I don't feel great. I don't feel great.
[01:02:22] Speaker B: It'll be, it'll be a good game. It'll be a big game.
[01:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:24] Speaker B: I. Rogers, I think we all assumed he was retiring, but his one, his press conference kind of thinking like, you know, while it was a one year deal, there was, you know, things about like one or more two years that he kind of said in the end there too. So I, I don't know if he's really made up his mind. So, you know, this game could go a long way as far as like, you know, if they win and they're in and Tomlin's still there and they could run this thing back again if they feel confident that that may play a big factor in him not retiring. It could be a factor in this.
[01:02:53] Speaker A: Game too, if they're in the playoffs. I like their chances on any given Sunday to. For some upset wins here. So I don't feel the same way about the Ravens. So I'm going with my Steelers.
[01:03:06] Speaker C: I mean, look, I think if the Steelers get in, they get DK back to get a home game.
Obviously the Ravens win too. They get a home game. I mean, it looks like the first round matchup for either one of these teams. If they win, it's going to be Houston Texans, which defensively going against those guys will be tough.
But I mean, yeah, I mean right now it's just, it's just hard to like the Steelers here. There's. There's nothing that signifies they're going to win this game outside of maybe like the Ravens do what the Lions did on Christmas Day and commit like five turnovers. That's. That's the only way the Steelers, I think win here. They got to get three to four turnovers.
Special teams like kick return or block or some. Something has to happen for Pittsburgh to generate enough to win this game. Hey, maybe Derek Henry does what he's been doing in these big games. Fumbles it away and that flips the tide. But I, I like, I love the Ravens this weekend.
[01:03:53] Speaker A: Nice. All right.
Looks like we were the same picks on most of them except for the games that I faded.
So that's it. We'll see how it goes.
Any other fun plans for the weekend?
[01:04:05] Speaker C: Jason?
[01:04:06] Speaker A: You gotta head out to your Holiday bowl right now, right?
[01:04:08] Speaker B: Going to the Holiday Bowl? Yep. Smu, Arizona later.
[01:04:12] Speaker C: What action you got on that game, Jason? I know you had some action last year. You got screwed. Back door. What do you got, man?
[01:04:18] Speaker B: What's, What's. I guess we're, we're close to game time right now. What's. What's the line looking like there? I honestly, Aaron hadn't, hadn't looked at.
[01:04:24] Speaker A: The line it was, it was a.
[01:04:26] Speaker C: Pick them in over under 52. Let me see where it's at right now. I do like. I do like a pick particular play here if you want to fade because according to Rome, people are getting rich off of fading me here these last two weeks. So it's up to you if you want to fade it or not. But let me see what the line is real quick here.
Times that game.
[01:04:43] Speaker B: Kick off five o'.
[01:04:44] Speaker A: Clock.
[01:04:45] Speaker C: Okay, five o'. Clock.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: Head down here a little bit. We get the good full tailgate. You know, gates open at 12 all the way up until kickoff.
[01:04:54] Speaker C: Nice, Nice. All right, let's see.
[01:04:57] Speaker B: So we got the holiday bowl SMU minus one and a half.
[01:05:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I got SMU minus one and a half over under 51 and a half.
I like, I like the over 51 and a half.
[01:05:08] Speaker B: I don't disagree with that. There's been some, some good Holiday bowl shootouts as of some recent memory.
I don't know. SMU still a good team. You think about where they are a year ago, playoff team, a lot of those guys.
I like SMU in this game.
[01:05:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, like I said, it was a pick them. So, I mean, the money's coming in on smu.
I think it's. I, I honestly will say, I think it's that Texas money because Texas Tech went from a two and a half point underdog to a one and a half point favorite. So that booster money in Texas is real.
They show out for their team. So be careful about taking those Texas teams right now in these bowl games.
[01:05:46] Speaker A: I don't know. I kind of like Arizona.
[01:05:49] Speaker B: Could be. I was trying to think why I had that layer in last year. Because last year we did.
[01:05:52] Speaker C: We.
[01:05:52] Speaker B: We did lines in all the bowl games last year, didn't we?
[01:05:56] Speaker C: I don't know if we did all of them, but we did selective games, right? Yeah, we. Yeah.
[01:05:59] Speaker A: Aaron still picked some games last year. This year he dropped the funny.
[01:06:05] Speaker C: The funny thing is all the games that I've not picked that are college ones, I am undefeated. So that's why I will give you the over 51 and a half.
That's the funny thing. I had Michigan, I had Texas minus four and a half. I had the over in Arizona State, Duke 49. So those are all winners. So that's. I like the over 51 before we.
[01:06:23] Speaker A: Let Jason go here.
College football. Round two takes.
Aaron, you had the game over 40 and a half.
[01:06:30] Speaker C: That was a loss.
[01:06:31] Speaker A: That was a loss. But you did have the lean. Miami plus nine And a half.
Oregon, Texas Tech. Oregon Moneyline.
[01:06:41] Speaker C: Got that.
[01:06:41] Speaker A: So you got that one. Alabama and Indiana yet? Alabama plus 17.
[01:06:47] Speaker C: That's plus seven. Even 17 couldn't even.
[01:06:51] Speaker A: It didn't matter.
[01:06:52] Speaker C: You could have had them. Plus. You had to have a plus 36 to get that win.
[01:06:55] Speaker A: Just like in Mari. The paternity test determined that was a lie.
[01:06:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:07:00] Speaker A: And Ole Miss and Georgia. Georgia by two touchdowns is what I have in quotation marks.
[01:07:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I did like Georgia.
That quarterback man stepped up. Fourth quarter, took it away from him. Didn't see that one coming.
[01:07:14] Speaker A: I didn't see Ole Miss like.
Yeah, I don't know. I was surprised Georgia was due.
Georgia was. Dude. It doesn't look like Georgia likes the Sugar bowl, though. Back to back losses over there. So cool. That'll do it for the final week of lines with the guys.
We'll recap the final tally of the record against the spread after this week and reveal that. And we'll do a recap after the week, too.
Stay safe. Have fun at the Holiday Bowl. Have a couple Michelob Ultras for me. Jason, do some shots in the parking lot with somebody. Pick a random tailgate, record it. Tag the podcast on socials.
[01:07:56] Speaker B: I don't know about randoms. I do. We do the.
I do. We do some traditional shots that we have with the group that goes on there. So I'll have my one shot of peppermint schnapps that one of my other people, the other one of the other guys I go with that brings every year. So we'll. We'll have the. Definitely have that one.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: Oh, man, I don't think I could do that.
[01:08:18] Speaker B: It is an old man who brings the peppermint schnapps, obviously. And so that's.
[01:08:22] Speaker A: People I know who drinks schnapps are like, they're. They're like above 70 or like they're delete. Like alcoholics.
[01:08:28] Speaker C: For sure.
[01:08:29] Speaker B: Not above 70, not an alcoholic. But this is just a tradition since I. Where we are, what are you, 19 years now? 20 years in the making. I've been going to this game. So every year doing the peppermint. Do the. The shot of peppermint knobs before we go in. So generally I'll have a shot of something else.
[01:08:46] Speaker C: We.
[01:08:46] Speaker B: We got a. We got a couple things on deck.
[01:08:48] Speaker A: The.
[01:08:49] Speaker B: The drink of choice, I'll say the last couple years has been the. The gentleman jack, you know, little gentleman drink. But I definitely have all the Michelob ultras on tap for you too, as we do some of the festivities.
[01:09:00] Speaker A: Nice. Sounds good, man. We'll have fun.
[01:09:02] Speaker B: Thanks.
[01:09:02] Speaker A: Be safe. We'll catch you guys after the weekend.
I'll do it for us.