Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome, this is sources from the SOFA sports podcast. This is Rome. We have a special pod for you today as we recap Super Bowl 59 as the Philadelphia Eagles destroyed, dismantled, beat the crap out of the two time super bowl defending champions Kansas City Chiefs and KC I gotta admit, man, they look like they had no will to live with like about 5 or 6 minutes left in the second quarter. I think that's when Jason text me and Aaron and said this game is over. I can't recall. We do talk a little bit about this podcast, but even with them down, however many was 24, I believe or. Yeah, it was 24 at the half. You still think Mahomes still has a chance, right? As much as I don't like the Chiefs, I don't like Mahomes, you know, well, you know, I, I respect them, you know, it's not like I don't like them. You gotta give credit where credit's due. But you're thinking like, man, is this his Brady moment where Brady came back down 25 points, 28 to 3, five minutes to go in the third in that super bowl against Atlanta Falcons. But it never came to fruition. They look flustered. Casey did on the sidelines. And the Eagles, they did everything right, you know, bad, you know, bad interception to start off from Herz in the first quarter. But then the Eagles D, man, just pressuring the sh. Mahomes all single game. It's not like Herz was not pressured as well.
He, he, he did get taken down or like squeezed out of the pocket a few times, but he just happened to make the right move at the right time. Whether it was find his receivers on the side, running up the middle, breaking away for, you know, a few yards here and there. He ended up with 70 plus yards in the game, 200 plus yards in the air. Very impressive performance. So we talk about the game, what transpired. We talked about our prop bets that we had before the game. We did okay. Not great. I didn't like them to begin with, but we covered that. Nick Sirianni, who would have thought? You know, I'm kind of liking him. This guy is just an authentic weird motherfucker. And his second super bowl, he finally wins.
Now the big question that we do pose in today's pod is, does it become like every other NFL coach to end up, you know, going to two Super Bowls? You know, you got Tomlin, you got Carol, you even got McVeigh. They end up going to two, but they win one, they lose one, and then they don't Go back. Look at Tomlin. He hasn't been back in a while. And that's my team. It hurts my heart to say that, but we haven't been back in a while. But is Sirianna the next great coach that's in play now? Because now we have a mini dynasty possibly in the making.
Second super bowl in, you know, two, three years. This is their third super bowl in the past seven.
Pretty impressive when you look at everything and when you go back to like when Andy Reid was there. If you're an Eagles fan, you gotta like being an Eagles fan, especially that division. But here we go. We talk about Super Bowl 59, we talk about commercials, the Kendrick Lamar halftime show. Jason loved it. He'll break it down for you.
Don't go anywhere.
Time for a Super bowl recap late Monday night. We have plenty of time to digest the game. I had a great time yesterday. I loved it. I thought it was exciting. It was an ass whooping of the century. It was the way you want to see a defending champion get knocked out.
Philly played an impeccable game.
Before we jump into everything else, did you like the game, Aaron?
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Loved it, man. I did love it. That's. That's for sure, man.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Did you love the game, Jason?
[00:04:01] Speaker C: No, it was terrible.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: What, and that best part of the.
[00:04:05] Speaker C: Game was a halftime show?
[00:04:08] Speaker A: I love the game. It was great. A lot of people said it was boring. People said it was a dud. I personally thought it was.
It was just a lot of fun. I like seeing a well executed football game like that. And to see the champs get punched in the face, to see Mahomes get pushed in the face and get manhandled, it made me happy, man. I slept like a baby last night. So like a baby. It was good.
[00:04:33] Speaker C: He just wanted this. After 20 weeks of being wrong about the Chiefs, I finally got it right. I was finally right. Took all the.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: I wasn't wrong. I was right that they were overrated. I was right that Mahomes is overrated. And it finally all comes together like a beautiful puzzle. It takes weeks and weeks to build this thousand piece puzzle. And now we got the full picture. It's beautiful.
[00:04:54] Speaker C: Well, my favorite tweets on the timeline were that the Chicago Bears. It's always about what if they would have got Patrick Mahomes. This is what Patrick Mahomes would have looked like if he was on the Chicago Bears.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: I, I did see it to be like that.
Let's get into it. Philly WINS Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans 40 to 22. Jalen Hurts MVP 221 in the air, two touchdowns, one interception. 72 more yards on the ground which some of those runs were phenomenal. In the second quarter, another touchdown the ground. Pat Mahomes 21:32 with 257 yards, three touches and two interceptions. But if you take away that fourth quarter, he had 40 something yards. He added all those touchdowns in the last, what was it, seven minutes or so in the fourth. And this was a blowout. This was a blowout. I would say it was over at the end of the third quarter I believe for at least for, for me, you know once they got like I think like the field goal or the Devonte Smith pass actually from Jaylen like this was out of reach. How do we get there?
We were all texting each other. It was a weird call in the beginning. I was thinking like God damn it this is going to be another Chiefs refs type of game.
And then all of a sudden they swallowed their whistles after that. Casey I actually got called for a few holding calls. Eagles, they just roughed up Mahomes. I you know they did get called on a couple of those but I love that they were not afraid. They just took control of the game early. It was actually. I wouldn't say they took control of the game. I think they were kind of feeling each other out the first, first quarter. Luckily Philly did enough to get a touchdown early on.
And then I'm trying to remember the whole game right now because so much happened. There was one play where Momes and the Chiefs were driving.
Then Philly put a lot of pressure on Mahomes. They sacked him back to back times and then after that they were able to pull off a, a force fumble as well as a couple interceptions. At the half the Eagles were up 24 0. AJ Brown had a nice 12 yard pass from Jalen Hurts snuck in the corner. Before that when Philly had a punted I believe they, they pinned it right inside the 5. Mahomes had to go 98 yards. He got roughed up sweat. He pushed Mahomes own guy into him. He threw it right into the hands of Cooper does a nice 38 yard interception return.
Jason, let's go to go to you first because you're the one that had Casey winning completed the three peat and you text us I think with like 10 minutes in the first quarter saying this game's already over.
[00:07:50] Speaker C: Yeah I.
What Kansas City did the entire year was keep all these games close and manageable and enough for Mahomes to come back. But there was never a point through the entire year where, where this was the.
Was it the 2018 or 2019 chiefs that were, you know, coming back on the Texans and like, you know, a divisional round or something like that, when there's like a 24 point deficit or something crazy like that. They were never going to be that team. And they couldn't get a first down. I think the whole first half it was like. Was it the first drive they got the Smith pass to juju Smith, Schuster and like really everything after that, like Mahomes had no time. He's running for his life, couldn't escape. You're going in and out and yeah, I just, I didn't think there was anything in him at that point. And offensively Philly was just doing enough to get the ball down the field.
But defensively was just, was just the story of the game. And you mentioned the Jalen Hurts mvp. To me, the biggest injustice of this, that, that he actually won that mvp.
Joshua was the MVP of that game and I think he had only. Does he get it because the entire Eagles defensive front four, but Jalen Hurts could have done absolutely nothing almost that entire game. And that Philly front four won, won that game. The first half they were dominant even when they didn't generate a sack. You know, you just talked about the interception that Cooper got, like that was all from Joshua pushing alignment into Mahomes that caused that. And so when you're able to get the front four pressure on Mahomes, even the containment, him trying to go around and make something creative, just wasn't there. Like that. That was everything telling to me at that point that Philly was just going to run away with this game and they just didn't, they didn't have the threat anywhere wide open drop pass from Hopkins. I think it was towards the end of that first half that was just like, man, if anything you can get like a field goal or something out of this. Yet nothing but daylight to run.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: It was like five minutes to go in the second quarter, I think. Yeah, I just saw a replay today on the way back and that was a big trial. That was a big mess.
[00:09:56] Speaker C: Huge. But I just think the entire time like Mahomes is under duress. You're not going to win games like that. I mean it almost reminds you. I mean there's a lot of comparisons I was trying to think of during the game. Was it like that Seahawks Broncos super bowl where just Manning's just destroyed the entire time by the Seahawks or even. Even to think like the Brady losses to the Giants, where the Giants are able to just push that front for the entire time and Brady just had no time and couldn't do anything and couldn't fig out, you know, where to get the ball out. And just Mahomes just had. Had no answers. They had the running the ball was almost not an option. You know, they hand the ball to Kareem Hunt, he stopped three yards into the backfield. I know one of Aaron's props, I don't think we ever got to was the Pacheco thing. I don't even know if Pacheco was in the game half the time. They didn't hand the ball off. They didn't run him a screen with anything. So it was, it was, it was as bad as probably get for the Chiefs offense you mentioned. Right. Like everything Mahomes put up was just in garbage time. When the game was pretty much over. I think they did the Gatorade bath before he got, he got half of those yards.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: It was, yes, three and a half minutes left in the fourth quarter and they were about to get their second touchdown, I believe.
[00:11:06] Speaker C: Yeah. So, I mean, I was iffy choosing the Chiefs. I mean, for me, it was just more of my preseason prediction going into it. Philly, when you look at, you know, defensively, this was a dominant defense throughout the season. You know, as good as KC was, Philly was. Was better in some categories and a lot of categories, and offensively they would just do enough. And it was, it was telling in this game that the, the offensive player of the year, Saquon Barkley had what, 57 yards. Like, nothing spectacular held him in check. Jalen Hurts had a terrible interception in the first half. Like, those are the time. I mean, that was, that was about as bad as you get. I don't know where he was, you know, throwing that ball to. You know, it was. And that was, that was to a point where I was like, man, maybe the Chiefs got a chance here. But even that was for nothing. I think the offense really wasn't clicking entirely. It was the defense making it happen. The first half and the second half just closed it up.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Yeah, in the first quarter, it was a little dead. I. I figured, you know, like in a lot of these Super Bowls there, you know, it's a lot of pressure, but the Chiefs have been here before.
So the game did start a little slow. That interception, because you guys had one of these prop breads, right? Like going over half the interception, I was like, man, if this Is the way Jaylen Herz is playing. This is not going to be a good game. But he settled down, he protected the ball after that. And it's not like the Chiefs did not provide, you know, pressure him out of the pocket. I rewatched the game today just to kind of like see what happened. And they did get get him a couple times, but every time he was able to escape or he was able to run for a few yards or he found an outlet pass or, you know, his receivers came in with like big clutches along the sidelines. He played a really good game. You mentioned the MVP thing. I know you were all for Sweat getting it. They could have given it to multiple guys on the defensive side, but I'm not mad. That hurts. Got it. He played a hell of a game.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean defensively, Philly as a squad, you could have given them that mvp. I mean, they came out from the beginning of that game and just dominated. You know, Sweat had two sacks, I think Williams had two and a half. Sweat had Williams had two sacks. They got six as a team and what, you know, a pick six, another interception that set him up for that A.J. brown touchdown that ended up being a 12 yard TD. Romeo talked about Philly just came out. You know, basically Chiefs got one first down, the first play of the game, the whole first half they hit Juju for 11 yards and after that they did not get another first down in the whole entire first half. Which is crazy to think. I mean, we know Philly number one team overall defense coming in. Teams in the super bowl era have been 10 and two when they had the number one defense coming in. So I mean, that was another reason why we liked Philadelphia, me and you, Romeo.
I don't know if I mentioned it on the show or not, but I thought if there was going to be a blowout one way or the other, I thought Philadelphia would blow him out. I thought Philly was better at every aspect. They had a better defense, they had a better offense. I mean, the only thing we were talking about was head coach and quarterback and Herzl played Mahomes.
So the interception he threw like Jason mentioned was not a good play. I mean the O line really blew that one. It was an easy blitz right up the middle of Bolton, came up the middle, Hertz just kind of threw it out there. Didn't see the safety team, terrible under throw, got intercepted. That hit her over on the prop bet there for the interceptions. So not going to complain on that one. If you did put some money on that and Listen to the show.
But yeah, I mean they, they basically came out and said, hey Saquon, we're not going to let you beat us. What? 52 yards rushing, 40 yards receiving. And Hertz had a good game. I mean what he had the two TDs, throwing almost that third. The guy got tackled at the one. Then Hertz basically does the Philly tush push, runs that one in. He was three touchdowns.
I mean even the special teams, we talked about Jake Elliott not being great. He was 4 for, 4 for field goals. Technically 6 of 6 if you want to consider all the false starts that Philly had on all those kicks.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say that that first field goal, the second quarter, self inflicted wound, it pushed him back so it made it a 40 yard field goal instead of like what 43 or whatever.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: He made 2:48. Yeah. And a 50 plus yarder in this game. And I mean he just, he buried clutch.
[00:15:35] Speaker A: I mean really clutch.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: Casey didn't even kick a field goal the whole game. I mean Buckner I don't even think broke a sweat. He just, he just sat there. His best play might have been the onside kicks he was trying to do late in the fourth quarter.
[00:15:48] Speaker A: So Philly gets the first touchdown. You're thinking like okay, cool, they need to get some type of score because any minute Casey's going to turn it up. They get the ball back, self inflicted. Boom. They kick the field goal. Now they're up 10 0. Still nothing crazy. I'm thinking like this is still, you know, can go anyway. 10 points is nothing for Mahomes.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Well homes career had never lost a game when he was exactly down 10 0. Yeah, he was like 12 or 13, zero Super bowl error and whatever.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: And I think he's been down 100 in every Super Bowl.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: And then when, when he threw that interception though, when he was getting flustered. This is after they already had a drive where he got sacked back to back. They kicked the ball, whatever, punting it away.
Then they get it back. When they got the interception to a touchdown, I was like that. This is rare company now. Like we don't see Mahomes make these type of mistakes. His face after that pick six. I don't know if you guys remember that. The camera pan to him, big frown face. They showed Andy Reid, Andy Reid wasn't animated. They were showing Jones on the sidelines upset, you know, pounding the wall. Like everyone looked so flustered. And from that point on. Maybe this is when you sent the text, Jason. I don't know if it was like this earlier or not. But from that on I'm seeing like this feels really weird. Then they end up getting another touchdown to go up 24 to 0 in the half. Even then I'm like, this is not a, a safe lead. People I was watching the game was saying, this game's over. This game sucks. I'm like, this is, this is a good game. I'm loving the way how like, you know, Philly hasn't really turned it on yet. It wasn't until that third quarter we're like, all right, they're just dominating the ball. They're, they're driving. Saquon Barkley didn't get a lot of yardage. He broke out twice, I think for like a 7 yarder and like a 10 plus 1. He had a nice catch rolling backwards inside the 5 where they score shortly after that or, or they kick the field goal rather after that. But it was just crazy how everything broke down like that.
[00:17:56] Speaker C: I sent you guys the text at 4:44pm that the game was over. So that was an hour into the game. So I, I think it was the pick six. I don't remember which one is it, but I mean I, you know, I'm not dying on a hill for this take right now, but I think that the pick six and why I keep talking about Josh Sweat and it's like he's the one who caused the pick six. It wasn't a bad decision by Mahomes. Literally, you know, pushing an offensive lineman, Enzo Mahomes creates a bad throw. Desean gets it, you know, scores the touchdown. It, it the turn of events because not only like Sweat had second most tackles on the team as a defensive lineman, he had the two and a half sacks, he had three quarterback hits like he was up in Mahomes's face the entire game. And to me that was, that was where it was ending, was the front four. And you guys are right, you could have given it to any of the guys. You know, I'll think back to my Bears, you know, you know, the year we were born in 85 or actually Rome wasn't born yet. It was just me at 1 years old. But you know, the, the Bears dominating, you know, the Patriots in the Super Bowl. It was the entire defense dominating the Patriots in that super bowl and they give it to Richard Dent. But I mean, I think he was making the plays like the, the big throw from Herz to, to Smith late in the game. I mean the game was ice dirty at that, at that moment in Time. So while, you know, Hertz is putting stuff up, I was like, everything he scored to me was almost at a garbage time point of the game. The defense had already set the tone and just said Kansas City had no shot.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I know a lot of the media outlets were saying, like, there was no blitzes. I could have sworn I remembered a couple blitzes happening. At least two or three. And then even when I was watching the replay again today, I. I did catch one. But they were just applying so much pressure, and that was just like, we've been talking about it all playoffs. Turnovers are the name of the game. When you turn the ball over, you lose. And Casey finally had all the issues that were wrong with him throughout the year, and they. And they've been able to get away with it. Showed up on the biggest stage. Mahomes, not a great game. The second blowout in the Super Bowl. All this talk about, you know, possibly being the go, this being like the best team in history, this being the best dynasty, especially like from Nick Wright.
All that stuff just like it's done for.
[00:20:10] Speaker B: Yeah, Rome. I mean, I. I think the good thing about this ass whipping that Philly gave him, it. It. I think it's going to basically end all the talk of dynasty going forward for the Chiefs. I think it puts an end to this mystique, this fear that teams may or may not have.
You know, they've won so many close games, and we kind of like, even when it was 24, nothing, we're like, oh, man, it's the Chiefs. They can come back. I didn't think they were going to come back. They just don't have the offensive weapons to do it this year. But you're thinking maybe they can make it a game, get a 2414, put a little sweat on the Eagles. Like, no, the Eagles just kind of took it from there and just dominated.
And so give them a ton of credit. And then, you know, they did a good job, basically. Like you guys have said, just pressure. Front four, front four, front four. Like getting Graham Breck. He had a nice game, too. He'd been out, what, six, seven, eight weeks with that torn tricep or whatever he had, but he had a good game. Just everybody on Philly had a good game. Bond with that interception. Diving is intercept the pass that was going to be intended for Kelsey, I believe that set up a score and then this isn't have to blitz. I mean, Fangio has been a great D coordinator, defensive coach in this league for what, 45 years. They said finally getting his first super bowl, killing Moore. You know, Dallas is going to wreck the day Mike McCarthy ever took office at coordinator duties from him because he'd be the new coach there, not Brian Scheinheimer. So there's a lot that went into it.
But yeah, for the Eagles, I'm happy they won, Chiefs lost.
It's what they've been doing to teams all year, being the composed team, forcing turnovers, not making dumb mistakes. They did everything wrong here. Would they have like three personal fouls in this game? You know, one of them, like you guys mentioned was probably a makeup call, if that. A.J. brown, the offensive PI early, but Bolton taking three steps, hitting Saquon in the back.
That would have been a third and 26 coming up. That led to an automatic first down. Philly ends up going down a score on that drive. Really? That was big momentum play. And then like you said Rome, the referees swallowing the flags, like they gave you a tease, like, oh, they're going to do this. And then they came out and played villain. They said, F U, Casey, we're not giving you nothing. We don't care if you get pushed in the face. Mahomes strip sack. Four Philly guys recovering on it. Like they just, they just rolled with the momentum.
[00:22:34] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with any of you guys. Said the only thing I'll say. If you're saying this is the end of the dynasty or whatever, like I'd caught. I'd caution on just that a little bit. You think about the Patriots dynasty, there was a lull there for quite a few years where the Patriots were. It was a retooling piece. But hey, we're still, we're still winning the division. We're still going to ASC championship games. Maybe we're not going and winning the Super Bowl. So it'll be interesting. What like Mahomes and the second act turns into yet? Yeah, they could have a couple down years right now. They're not going to the Super Bowl. You know, maybe Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, you know, somebody else at ASC has their turn. But, you know, when do they start? When does Mahomes, you know, what does Mahomes do? Can he be like Brady that kind of reinvents himself a little bit. What are the young skill position players that they're going to start drafting and bringing in? You know, I think there's an evolution to this team that could be taking place. They may not be great for the next couple years and we may see and hey, the end of this core group of guys, but I'd be, I wouldn't be so eager to write them off because in the NFL like the best teams generally stay the best teams. As much as the parodies driven. The Browns are always bad. These teams are always bad. You know, the Chiefs are probably going to be around and it's just going to be, you know, what can they do to retool the roster? Obviously they didn't. They had a bunch of recycled playmakers on offense that were probably great a couple years ago. They were getting by with okay, what do they have to do around Mahomes now to get him more speed or something? And then with Mahomes, I mean, the front four able to corral him was what's rather interesting. The thing about Brady's game late in his career or his entire career, you know, the guy couldn't run. And I think Brady talked about it in pre game or during the game where he just talked about his preparation for stuff like this, just knowing everything that defense could get. I think Mahomes obviously well prepared for all this game, but like as his athletic ability declines and you know, some of that stuff and he's not as elusive, he can do that type of stuff, is he going to be a next level kind of, you know, person that's going to prepare for these games, understand the defense and be able to, you know, put his guys in the right position or is he going to still rely on his athletic ability and just fades, like looking like Russell Wilson here towards the end of his career too? So that I think that'll be the interesting evolution of where this, this Chiefs team goes. And then you got to talk about Andy Reid too. How much longer he's going to coach and what's going to be the plan there.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I was going to get into that. I mean, you talked about Tom Brady. Andy Reid's going to be there one more year. I mean, he committed to next year. He's what, 65, 66. I think you're going to replace him with Spags. He's likely going to retire here soon. So that whole coaching staff's going away. You now have arguably the best coaches in the AFC now in that conference. If you look at Harbaugh, Peyton and Carol, I mean, and those guys, I, I believe, yeah, I believe that the Chiefs are going to be done. I think the Broncos and Chargers are going to take that next leap. I believe the Chargers are going to be probably in the AFC championship game at worst next year. They're gonna, they're gonna make A big, big leap. We talked about them already being a step ahead. I think Herbert's gonna make that leap. I think the embarrassment of the playoff loss for them is gonna be something. And KC like Kelsey's done, Hopkins is done, Hollywood Brown's done. I like Worthy. They'll do get Rice back next year. Coming off the acl, he'll be a nice addition back to this team. But they're going to lose offensive line pieces. You know, now that the dynasty they lost playing, players are going to want to get paid. So they're not going to no longer really want to take pay cuts. There's elite quarterbacks all throughout the league.
Parody is part of this league. What the Chiefs did and winning so many close games, I mean they, they weren't like a dominant dynasty. They just won so many close games. Rome, we were talking, they should have lost six games this regular season. This was an 1116 that should have been on the road. They would have got beat by Baltimore in the playoffs. I believe in Baltimore had beaten Buffalo.
If they had gone on the road and played at Buffalo, they would have got beat the Bengals. Had the Bengals gotten in, I believe they would have beaten the Chiefs. So they just got a banged up Texas team that didn't have enough offensive weapons. Buffalo, we can go back and argue whether that was a first down or not. I think if it's a first down, Allen and Buffalo, it does advance and win that game. It goes to the Super Bowl.
They even mentioned that Brady, I think everybody was like, yeah, I think it was a first down now that we think about it. But yeah, I mean the Chiefs, we'll see what they do rebuilding wise. But like Jason said, I mean, Andy Reid, how long is he going to be around? He's committed to next year. I know Nick Wright said something about Andy Reid signed a five year contract for $20 million a year in the off season. But when you're winning, you always want to be around coaching. When you're losing, it gets tougher and tougher, especially as you get older. And yeah, how will Mahomes adjust? He was running for his life and doing some stupid stuff where it's like, dude, like just get down. Because Philly was trying to take his head off and they hit him a couple times pretty hard. I think I even text you guys like, dude, it's 40 to 6. Get my homes out of the game. Like, bring Carson Winston. There's no reason getting this dude hurt in a game that you got no chance in winning.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not really sure. Why they just left him in and just rack up those, those stats. He ruined a lot of people's overs, that's for sure.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: We hit her. Both teams over 19 and a half prop bet. So I did that one.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Yeah, you guys jumped the gun on for me though, on, on, on the Chiefs thing.
They still have a great defense. They're still up there. They still have Mahomes. I think the difference between Mahomes and everyone else, the reason why I never had him on top, especially Mahomes, is like the best quarterback is even. They kind of talked about that on the, on the super bowl coverage. How Brady, last time he faced the Chiefs, he just knew the defense better than they knew themselves. He knew how to read everything. He would audible out, change the play so that he, he would get his team in the best position to make a successful completion or gain some yardage or, or whatnot. And I guess the, the thing is with Mahomes, he's not a big film guy. He's like a backyard guy, kind of flings it. He does study, but not as much as the other elite quarterbacks. So you're right. Does he take that next step in his and in his preparation? Don't know. He hasn't had a couple good years back to back already. And so maybe this is it. You know, he's still talented, he still pulls plays out of his ass. But they have a tough road, it's a tough conference. But I think the way the Eagles just dismantled this particular Chiefs team, I I, it does take an aura away. I I, I, I think maybe the Bills finally get through next year. Maybe the Ravens finally answer the call. Maybe he's just dealing with the rest of the elite quarterbacks in that division.
A lot of people think it's crazy that he won't win another super bowl, that we should expect them back every single year. But, you know, we went 10 years without Brady going to the Super Bowl. I think it's very plausible, especially with all this young talent. Let's go back to the Eagles, though, because they're young as hell on defense. They are super young. They hit home runs in the last draft.
They hit home runs in free agency. Hertz is young as well. Everyone's underneath contracts. They might lose Kellen Moore to the Saints, but I think I'm a big fan of Sirianni now. Like, even during the game, they're in his face. They're yelling at each other. I think it's just like one of those families, you know, they just yell each other but at the end of the day, they have each other's backs. They went through all these ups and downs. They lost that tough super bowl that they should have won two years ago. They came back with a vengeance. Even with Saquon, like, no one's really greedy. No one really cares.
They just want to win. And Sirianni looks like he's gonna get a big payday. And, dude, look at the Eagles, man.
Their GM has done a hell of a job. They got rid of a Super bowl winning coach, went to Sirianni, which was like a gutsy call. No one liked his introductory press conference. Now look at him four years later. The best winning percentage in your first four years as an NFL coach. Pretty impressive.
[00:30:54] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely impressive. I mean, were we three, three, four weeks removed where they're talking about, he loses this game, he's probably gonna get fired. I mean, but yeah, can't take anything away from the guy. I think it's definitely a different style, especially, you know, trash talking on the sideline, you know, fans and. And whatnot.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: It's.
[00:31:14] Speaker C: It's definitely different. But you're right. I think. I think it's one of those things where the. The head coaching personality.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: Bless you.
[00:31:22] Speaker C: Yeah, right. All right.
I think it's one of those things that the head coaching personality for Sirianni probably matched the city a little bit. This is kind of like, you know, the reputation of Philly, you know, right or wrong. So I think that's there. Now, I will say you said, hey, this team just wants to win.
Okay, they won one, but how do. How do the. How do the winners react? Some of time. Sometimes it's just one, and these teams are. Are good to go, and then everyone's looking to get paid. What, like, is A.J. brown going to be around? A lot of stuff swirling around him and Jalen Hurst's relationship. Devonte Smith, big play in the Super Bowl. Sometimes he just disappears throughout the year. Saquon had a great year, but, okay, we're getting to the wrong side of, you know, potentially 30 from a running back. So there's a little bit questions. I think the best thing with Philly is they've always had the best offensive line in the league, or at least one of the top three. So whoever you throw behind these guys, they're. They're competitive offensively. Hertz did enough all year to be effective, you know, wasn't his great, greatest year statistically, but he's able to lean on Saquon. So, yeah, a lot of great things they're going to be one of the favorites in the NFC going into next year. But the NFC's got a lot of talent, too. You talk about the commanders, who they, who they played. You know, I know Rome wants to piss all over the NFC north for how they performed in the playoffs, but still a ton that's out there. You had the Rams make a little bit of a run, but they're going to be changing some stuff. So I think, I think there's a lot of competition there. And I think we talked about Patriot Birdie and the Patriots, Mahomes and the Chiefs, you know, different breeds of teams that win and then maintain that hunger to go back and continue that road. The last time the Eagles did this, man, it, it didn't turn out as well. They ended up firing a coach and had to rebuild and kind of come back whatever it was like five, six years ago. So a lot of good pieces. The defense is great. Like you talked about that young talent, especially, you know, the defense, the defensive line. But yeah, I guess we'll see.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: D line in their two rookie corners. Yeah, I mean they, they were so sticky in that game. They had. The Chiefs had no space. I mean, amazing.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Sirianni, like you, we've been talking, you know, I know Jason's brought it up and agreed like kind of the same Ryan Day situation, right, where like if you lose, you're out, all the pressure is on you to win the games and they just embrace it. Like Sirianni, we kind of talk. I don't know what he does from an X and O standpoint, but. But I've said this. If he hires the right coordinators and coaches, Howie Roseman puts the best players on the field and has been for a while. So he went out, got Fangio. Don't know what happened with the one year in Miami players somewhat didn't like him. He goes to Philly number one defense. This was the number 28 ranked defense last year with a lot of the same players. They basically got two new corners, rookies. And then they got Bond, a linebacker that never had more than 25 tackles in a year. That gets 150.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: This year they moved into middle linebacker.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: And they get the number one defense. That's just great coaching. And then, you know, Kellen Moore comes in. Remember they were throwing the ball a lot in the year early of Hertz. What was he doing? Turning it over. Turning over. This team was 2 and 2. They went to a run, heavy team. Never lost a game, Never lost again. When Hertz started from start to Finish, after Week 4 losing to Tampa Bay.
So this team, Sirianni, it's going to be interesting to see who he replaces. Kellenmore. I brought up, you know, Bobby Slowik, ex Texas OC as a possibility. Maybe they hire in house. That's going to be an important hire, whichever direction they go. And talking about dynasties, Eagles is kind of like you said, Rome. They're like the Spurs. They're like a mini dynasty themselves. This is the third super bowl in seven years.
They got robbed. I don't care what people say. The Chiefs BS holding against juju really robbed them. Who knows what that game would have been. Maybe it goes to overtime, maybe they win. You know, people talk about dynasties with the Chiefs. I mean, there's a lot of questionable plays, calls.
So, I mean, Eagles, Howie Roseman, he's been great. He lost a power struggle back early with Chip Kelly, but they figured that out. Guy's a genius. He knows how to go get players. He knows how to work the cap really well. I don't see the Eagles going, going away anytime soon. And Sirianni, he's going to get a new deal. He's making 7 million. He's probably gonna make $14 million a year. Fangio is never gonna get another coaching gig. OC is gonna be an important hire, but you got two. Two more years of Saquon, Brown, Smith. All those guys are paid. Got one of the best O line coaches in the league. They're not going anywhere. But yeah, I mean, Jaden Daniels, the nfcs, it's going to be good. It's gonna be competitive. It's not going to be walkthrough to get back to the super bowl, that's for sure.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: I don't think we've had a coach like Nick Sirianni in the NFL because this guy shaved his head. He's been. We talked about here in the pie. Talk to fans, talk to the media. I love the clip that Dan Orlowski is trying to interview him. I don't know if you guys saw it, but he tells Dan to shut it and to get on his knees and suck the tip of his Lombardi. Like this guy. Like, people love how authentic his energy is. And, and maybe it doesn't work for anybody else. It doesn't make any sense. But it does work for Philly. Bunch of tough ass over there. And, and, and these Eagles, man, they flew. They flew. It was a great game.
[00:36:33] Speaker C: Your guy variable a couple years ago was talking about cutting his penis off if the Titans won the super bowl and stuff like that he'd be saying, wow and out stuff too. So did he? Yeah.
[00:36:43] Speaker B: So he's perfect for the Patriots and. Yeah, man. I mean, yeah, Phillies. Big Dom. Big Dom on the sidelines, you always see him like head security. Like, I mean, he'd be fighting players, too. So you know that.
[00:36:55] Speaker C: That came up around super bowl party. I was that. Is there any other NFL team that's got the head coaches got their personal bodygu next to him on the sidelines other than the Eagles?
[00:37:03] Speaker A: Dude, like, I'm like, looking back at like, every super bowl coach before Sirianni. Everyone's either like, jovial like Andy Reid, you know, good guy, but jovial like positive or like stone cold killer. You know, you got Bill Belichick, Pete Carol.
[00:37:22] Speaker C: Peterson was a little bit different, though, for the Eagles though, too. I mean, he was. He's a little bit of a different cat.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: He was kind of cool, wasn't he?
[00:37:31] Speaker C: Yeah, there was like a. There's a different vibe to him, but I think. I think he was a little bit different. Wasn't like necessarily the stone cold killer type. But I will say for the Eagles, what Aaron brought up, I think it's a great point. When you look at them, the dynasty, you could talk about with the Eagles, like, you could. You can. You can power them with like, the Ravens, that this is a team that always is going to be in a Super bowl conversation. They're going to make the playoffs, they're going to make the right personnel decisions. You know, I think our entire lifetime, the Ravens have just been relevant since Ray Lewis. Like, they figure it out. They'll bring in Flacco, they'll bring Lamar Jackson. Players go in and out of the defense. They're always competitive. The Eagles have been the same way. Like, how many bad Eagle seasons can I remember since the year 2000, since they've had Donovan McNabb, like, they. They went from McNabb to Vic, you know, to y'all. They get Wentz, then they get hurts. Like, they always have a relevant quarterback. Howie Roseman's always putting a good team out in the field. So, like, that's why I said in the NFL, they preach parody, but we're still talking about the same, like, dozen franchises that are kind of right there. And you let say the Eagles, Rome, your Steelers, for the most part, I guess they just kind of just been making the playoffs. But the Ravens, you know, the Patriots, part of that. The Chiefs have been like these same kind of teams, like, have a. Have a infrastructure in the front office and. And A general manager generally that always makes the right personnel decision, then finds the guy to, that's going to manage the cap, give the right contracts, but also find those like players, you know, that are on the fringes, that are going to make a, you know, a bargain, a bargain contract worth way more.
[00:39:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it's funny that you bring it up, Jason. I was just thinking about it, I was going to say it myself. Like, in the last 25 years, the Eagles have been at least in what, eight NFC championship games. If you go back to Andy Reid there, he made what, five NFC championships? Only one Super Bowl.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: So you're talking, you're talking over the last decade plus, they've been in a third of the NFC championships.
So they've been, yeah, from McNabb to Vic Hertz, Wentz, all those guys even they had, what was it, Mariota for like a year there too, or something with Chip Kelly.
So they're, they've been really good. And that's, you know, you see it. Well run organizations do really good in this league. And if you have dumb owners and dumb management, you do really bad in this league.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: Here's the funny thing. I was looking back at coaches that want that won the Super Bowl. Typically when they go to two Super Bowls, they're usually like within a five year difference, like within five years. So Nick Sriani gets his revenge, wins the Super Bowl. Sean McVeigh did the same thing as well. Mike Tomlin, 1, 1 lost one, Pete Carroll, same thing. But when you look at everybody, though, they don't go back at all.
So does Nick Sirianni stick around and become one of these next coaches that wins more than multiple Super Bowls with one team? I guess that's something to be on the lookout because Andy Reid's like the only one that's present right now. Everybody else, they don't go back.
[00:40:42] Speaker C: It's tough to win. I mean, the Patriots and then the Chiefs lately, like, they make it look easier than you can. But I mean, think about some of the careers before, like Dan Marino, what do you go to his super bowl his second year or something like that, never went back.
And you know, he's considered one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Like Elway, like he was just constantly trying to get to that next step and wait till the end, you know, the very end of his career to kind of make his runs and go, you know, gets those two straight. You know, Manning early in his career was like, hey, this is the greatest quarterback of all time statistically during the regular season, you know, gets beat by Brady twice, but then Manning wins the last three. Head to head against Brady. Gets two Super Bowls out of it too. Like, you just never know kind of when you're going to get there. Even, you know, Aaron's guy, Jim Harbaugh, when he was with, with the 49ers, man, like he, it just felt like that the 49ers were just on a run. Like it was inevitable for them to win a Super bowl. Under Harbaugh loses to his brother and.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, man, it's, it's tough. I mean, look at Josh Allen. Never been to the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson, never been to a Super Bowl. Wild, you know, packers coach, well, he's got the best win percentage in the last six, seven years. Never been to the Super Bowl. Like, it's really, really tough. You just never know. I mean, you have to be healthy, you have to get the right matchups. Everything has to go right. I mean, we talked about Jaden Daniels getting to the, you know, conference championship. You know, will he be back there next year? Will they be a playoff team next year? We'll see. You just never know in this league. I mean, the Bears could go from. According to Jason, they'll be in the super bowl for the next decade.
[00:42:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw 5 and 12 to a super Bowl.
Disgusting.
[00:42:26] Speaker C: I mean, Aaron didn't see my Instagram post.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: I didn't see.
[00:42:30] Speaker A: I didn't see it, but I've been.
[00:42:31] Speaker B: Hearing about it from my sources, that's for sure.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's pretty quick to post that too. I was like, oh man, I was.
[00:42:38] Speaker C: I was saving it, man. I had it ready, ready for us. The game ended.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: Hey, I'll say this. I don't think Caleb played as bad as Pat Mahomes did in any game this year, just for the record.
No, it was really good opener against the Titans too.
[00:42:53] Speaker C: That was pretty bad.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it was bad.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: So Chiefs fall short of history. No. 3, Pete. I think all that talk, man, just like the, the gaudiness. You know, how Travis Kelce showing up in, in a porno, you know, suit to the game. If you saw him, this guy looked like he just came off like a 70s porn shoot, looking all decked out.
[00:43:18] Speaker C: You took a, you took a long while to say suit. I was just like, he just, he said looking at a porno, dot, do, dot, suit.
[00:43:25] Speaker B: And I'm like, suit, suit, shoot. You know, whichever one you're talking about here.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: Yeah. What? What some weird with.
It's not Matt Damon. It's it's the other guy, Ben Affleck.
[00:43:41] Speaker C: With the Duncan commercial.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: No, no. Well, that was pretty funny, but no, it's that movie where, like, he's, like, he becomes, like, a. A porn actor or, like, an adult film star.
[00:43:51] Speaker C: You talk about Mark Wahlberg. You're talking about.
[00:43:55] Speaker B: That's a good one.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: That's how he showed up to the. To the game. But he didn't show up.
[00:44:00] Speaker B: He didn't show up 12 inches long like Mark did, bro. That's for sure. Not tonight.
[00:44:04] Speaker A: Jesus Christ.
Well, you saw that movie recently or what?
[00:44:13] Speaker B: Nah, man, but that's a classic movie, bro.
[00:44:16] Speaker A: This guy's stats from it.
[00:44:20] Speaker C: Commercials, though, man. The Duncan commercial, the extended cut was great. I don't know if you watched the whole six minutes with Jeremy Strong method acting now.
[00:44:28] Speaker A: I saw parts of it. No commercial really stuck out all that much for me.
I. I remember the Meg Ryan one. They're allowing, like, Langers for, like, the best, you know, mayo.
That's about it.
Did you guys have a favorite commercial?
[00:44:49] Speaker C: No, I. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's. When you go to super bowl parties, it's really tough for us to watch some of the commercials, some of the stuff going on, but. Yeah, nothing.
[00:44:57] Speaker A: Nothing.
[00:44:58] Speaker C: That really hung me. I mean, I was like. I was honestly. Movie trailers. You had little teaser for the F1 movie with Brad Pitt.
[00:45:04] Speaker A: I. I missed that one.
[00:45:06] Speaker C: Missed that one, you know? You know, I could be in that one. They were filming when I was at the British Grand Prix this last summer. You know, I might be in the. In the crowd as they're going by, so. But, yeah, the F.1 movie, you had the Final Reckoning with Tom Cruise stunts. I mean, that one's looking good.
Yeah. Thunderbolts, the new Marvel movie, uh, this summer coming out. That's gonna be pretty good. Just some good stuff on the movie front.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: I've never seen one Mission Impossible.
[00:45:32] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:45:33] Speaker B: You're missing out, man. You are missing out.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: Have not seen one.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Not one Mission Impossible is. Has failed, in my opinion. They've all been good.
[00:45:44] Speaker C: No, the worst one you can say is Mission Impossible, too. And even that. Even that's great.
But I mean, Mission Impossible, I mean. I mean, we're not doing the movie pod right now, ro. But I mean, it's got to be one of the franchises where, like, the later movies are the best movies, really. Like, they're on, like, a.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: They get better.
[00:46:04] Speaker C: Yes. Like you.
Dead Reckoning, which is the last one that came out. It was the.
Was that the sixth one? No.
[00:46:13] Speaker B: Six or seventh I can't remember.
[00:46:15] Speaker C: That may be the first one that maybe got a little bit worse. But it wasn't because Fallout with Henry Cavill, spoiler alert. Is the villain.
But that one's probably one of the best action movies ever.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: I will plan sometime this year to eventually watch all of them and just straight, well, next.
[00:46:33] Speaker B: Next time you're overall pin on Mission Impossible.
[00:46:35] Speaker C: Yeah, the great part with Mission Impossible, you start with Mission Impossible 1. Very different film. It's a Brian De Palma film. Like, isn't as much in the theatrics and stunts, you know, it's. It's. It's a very different film. And then you got. Then you get a John Woo and Mission Impossible 2, it's kind of. It's a 90s kind of action ish type of movie. Motorcycles, things like that. Then Mission Impossible 3, I will say underrated. Philip Seymour Hoffman, top tier villain in that movie.
[00:47:05] Speaker B: Three three might be maybe the best one.
[00:47:09] Speaker C: Three's up there. There's some greatness of three, but four is when they kind of go into the new kind of version in the run that goes from there. I know we're getting off topic. We'll save that for the movie pod.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: Sounds good.
Halftime show. How do you rate it with Kendrick Lamar?
[00:47:29] Speaker C: I will say. I mean, I don't know. We talk about like 1 to 10.
[00:47:34] Speaker A: Yeah, sure.
I don't know. I was watching a whole bunch of Kendrick Lamar fans, so they were rapping along the whole thing. And I'm like, I mean that. That was me.
[00:47:43] Speaker C: That was me. So, you know, I, I know it all. So I'd give it. I'd give it the 9 or 10. I think the tough thing if you're rating it from a show perspective is for the average viewer that doesn't know Kendrick, they're. They're waiting for two songs kind of. They're waiting for not like Us and then TV off so everyone can scream mustard. Like that's all everyone knew. So the beginning, like first 10 minutes, like no one knew what kind of what was going on. And then I was talking with someone tonight actually about it, where they were kind of deep diving on the Internet about it because there's just so much hidden messaging and the themes and that Kendrick had like, you know, there was a PlayStation like thing that had the. The X and the circle and the square. That was this whole game that was going Samuel Jackson's role with being Uncle Sam in it. And what that was. There was different things they were doing with the American flag and the verses of the song and Stu. So there's a lot of, like, hidden messaging stuff that was going all throughout. The stuff that if you're. If you're a fan watching this, like, the average person's not gonna know. Like, even for people that are just like, you know, casual rap fans probably wouldn't know. So as a show, it probably doesn't have the showmanship that you're looking like, oh, if you had just having, you know, a pop star doing bells and whistles, you know, JLO and Shakira from when they were in Miami forever ago, like, okay, cool. It's just. They're just playing the hits. Yeah, they're just playing the hits. They're out there dancing. It's up there. I think it's a little different when you're doing, you know, a solo rap artist bringing stuff, and there's this underlying message, and everyone's just like, okay, how long until he shits on Drake? And so that's just what everyone's waiting for. The whole time is just waiting for him to. On Drake, which masterful job. Some. Some subtle stuff and how he. On Drake the entire time in front of, you know, 120 million people, plus everyone in attendance. So I think, great. But I think if you look at there's a certain segment of America, that we're gonna hate it regardless.
So there was a certain segment, America, that was gonna love it regardless. So I think that goes from every halftime show. I don't care who you put up. They could have put some country artist that half of America loves, and the other half would have crapped on it, too. So I think it's a tough gig for the halftime show. Everyone says it's the worst halftime show, no matter who it is, every single year. It's a tough gig. But then at the end of the day, like, who cares? It's. It's a segment. The NFL is just trying to get no one to switch the channel. I mean, in my childhood, I'm old enough, remember, let's bring some wrestling into Rome. I got stole. I got the Rock and Mankind doing a empty arena match for the WWF Championship during halftime. You know, they don't do that anymore.
[00:50:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I do remember that. That was. I do remember Mankind of the Rock going at it there, doing, like, the.
[00:50:15] Speaker C: Celebrity death match at halftime, too. Remember, you switch over to MTV and.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: They were doing, dude, I love that one.
[00:50:21] Speaker C: So, I mean, it used to be. It used to be they're flipping the channel. The NFL needs you to hold the viewership now. And so they're trying to box out anybody that can get there.
[00:50:30] Speaker A: My favorite halftime show so far was the one in LA with Dr. Dre, that whole crew, Eminem.
Great. That was like. That was nicely done.
[00:50:42] Speaker C: Yeah. No, I agree. I mean, that was the one. Out of all the ones for me.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: That'S the one at least recent memory. I have to. Have to go back and maybe for the 60th Super Bowl, I'll go back and review like the last 20 years of halftime shows.
[00:50:55] Speaker C: People talk about Michael Jackson. I think in 93. I think that was the first one people have talked about.
This is the one that went to the show. The Prince ones talked about a ton. That's up there.
You. I said Shakira and jlo. You got excited about that one.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: I do remember parts of that. I do remember the.
The Janet Jackson and Timberlake. I think that's like the, like the modern era of halftime shows. I think that kicked it off maybe.
[00:51:22] Speaker C: Well, no, that one kicked it backwards because you remember after that then they brought like Tom Petty in the Heartbeats or whatever. I'm like after that because, hey, we're not gonna offend any more pop stars. Yeah, these young kids and pop stars can't do any of that. We're gonna bring out like a 60s and 70s rock band just to go out there and stuff. So that was the start of a little bit of like, hey, we're gonna go super conservative. And I try to piss off Middle of America because everyone sued CBS for.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right.
[00:51:45] Speaker C: For the Janet Jackson.
[00:51:46] Speaker A: You're absolutely right.
[00:51:47] Speaker C: And then we. And then we started turning it back and getting more into pop culture and stuff like that. But I agree with you, I was the most excited one for the la. I think that one was, you know, there was just so much more different stuff. It spoke to kind of think our. Our generations like heritage and music. Or spoke to Kendrick's kind of like. I like Kendrick because he kind of is. He's an older soul of that era, but he's not everyone's modern day. Like, he's not the most popular person out there. He's like a. He's. There's a little more of a niche. This is kind of, kind of has been his massive coming out party this year for his beef with Drake.
[00:52:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the weirdest one I can remember was the weekend.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: Yeah, that one was weird. That was during COVID year. Right?
[00:52:27] Speaker A: I don't remember.
[00:52:28] Speaker B: I think that was. And then you had Rihanna a few years ago when she was pregnant.
[00:52:32] Speaker A: Yeah, oh, yeah.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: So anyways, yeah, I agree with you guys, man. I think the Sofi, Eminem, Dre, Snoop, those. That was a good one.
All right.
[00:52:48] Speaker A: Anything else should we cover? Like, I. I know we just kind of like we're all over the place for the super bowl recap, but.
[00:52:56] Speaker C: Well, one thing I wanted to go look back. I don't know if Aaron wants to revisit it was some of Aaron's prop bets.
[00:53:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, let's go over that.
[00:53:02] Speaker C: We loosely. Just looking at those right now, we had both teams to score over 19 and a half. We also winners.
[00:53:09] Speaker B: That was a winner.
[00:53:10] Speaker C: We all cashed.
[00:53:11] Speaker A: It shouldn't have been, but. Yeah.
[00:53:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it shouldn't have been. That was a bad beat if you had the unders.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:17] Speaker C: Jalen hurts over under 0.5 interceptions. Aaron was the only one that said over. I said under. Rome said stay away. Slash. No. So I don't know what the hell that was.
[00:53:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I was the only one that had him throwing an interception.
[00:53:30] Speaker C: Had the over. I want to takeovers Isaiah Pacheco over under four and a half yards. If. If I'm looking at this right, Aaron, he had five yards.
[00:53:38] Speaker B: He had five yards. That's a winner.
[00:53:40] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:53:40] Speaker B: Yes.
It's funny because we called that bet on Wednesday, the day of the game. It got bumped up to five and a half yards.
[00:53:48] Speaker A: So receiving.
[00:53:49] Speaker B: If you waited. Yeah.
[00:53:50] Speaker C: Receiving yards. Yeah. He had one catch for five yards.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: So if you waited till game day, you would have lost because it went to five and a half. But if you got it on that Wednesday, Thursday, Friday action, you hit the over four and a half. Yeah.
[00:54:03] Speaker C: What you're saying here is we. We moved the line.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: We moved the line. Yeah.
[00:54:06] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:54:06] Speaker B: The impact we had on it was great.
[00:54:09] Speaker C: Massive. Massive impact for the pod.
[00:54:11] Speaker A: What was the other ones?
[00:54:12] Speaker C: Saquan Barkley, 114 and a half rushing.
[00:54:16] Speaker A: Missed that one. Jesus.
[00:54:17] Speaker C: No, no, no, no. Aaron had the over. You and me, Rome, we had the under.
[00:54:20] Speaker A: Oh, that is correct.
[00:54:24] Speaker C: Yeah. So.
[00:54:25] Speaker A: All right.
[00:54:26] Speaker C: Nolan Smith Jr. Sacks 0.5. I do not believe he had one right, Aaron? No, no. So we all.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: We all lost that. We figured to be a sack fest, but he did not get it. This the next one we did hit.
[00:54:38] Speaker C: Successful two point conversion. We all said yes, it cashed.
[00:54:43] Speaker A: It shouldn't have either.
[00:54:44] Speaker C: That was total field goals over two and a half. Well, the Eagles did it all by themselves. We all said over and it hit.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: Yes, that's correct.
[00:54:55] Speaker C: Now the next one, Kansas City. Total field goals 1 1/2 they never trotted but her out. So we all lost that one.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:55:03] Speaker C: The next one we thought was a lock. If Pacheco hit over the 4.5, it was Isaiah Pacheco. Receptions over 1.5. We all said over. He only got the one catch. We missed on that one.
[00:55:15] Speaker B: Now this one should have easily hit, but did not easily hit.
[00:55:18] Speaker C: But I'm the only one who picked it, right?
Saquon Barkley, 70 plus rushing yards and the Philly win. You both said yes, I said no. But if I, if you would ask me beforehand, it would have been that the, it would have been the opposite.
[00:55:34] Speaker B: That you, you said no for all the wrong reasons.
We lost for all the wrong reasons, so.
[00:55:41] Speaker A: Well, you got 25 carries, man. Yeah, you should have hit that one.
[00:55:44] Speaker C: He should have hit it, but he did not. And so I would have won that bet. So I don't know. We had, we had some pretty good success on, on the props there.
[00:55:51] Speaker B: I was confused.
[00:55:52] Speaker A: I, I, I meant total yardage.
[00:55:55] Speaker B: Okay, well, total yardage, yeah, I mean total yards. What do you have one just short of 100. Yeah.
[00:56:03] Speaker A: Great game. Total.
So.
Yeah, was not expecting that game.
That was great.
[00:56:15] Speaker C: Be great, man. Well, the great thing about the NFL, it's year round, so we'll go straight into the NFL draft now.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: I need a break. I am good to. You know, I'm so glad that we did the pod, because this is the most I've watched in a long time, like religiously and like not getting hammered on the weekends. It was just like, oh, I did it, you know, because we have the pod coming up and it was great. But I definitely need a few months off.
Unless you're covering the UFL or whatever that Arena League is, we will not.
[00:56:46] Speaker C: Be covering the ufl. I think we got enough basketball with your Lakers. They made a little bit interesting. I got the Daytona 500 coming up this weekend. The start of the IndyCar season, Formula One season. Baseball pitchers and catchers. I think the Cubs are already reported already.
[00:57:03] Speaker A: Dodgers did too.
[00:57:04] Speaker C: Dodgers did too. So yeah, we got, we got that coming up. So a lot of great stuff we could be talking about here in the spring. And then the NFL draft will get kicking off around the that April time. We can start talking about what's going for the NFL, but lot of new sports in the spring on the horizon.
[00:57:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess we could talk a little Daytona this week.
[00:57:26] Speaker B: We got. Yeah, I mean March Madness basically a month around the corner.
So. Yeah, you got a lot, man. You got a lot coming.
[00:57:36] Speaker C: Some May Call it the super bowl of motor racing.
[00:57:40] Speaker A: Daytona, Daytona.
[00:57:43] Speaker C: Not be confused with the greatest spectacle in racing, which is the Indy 500.
[00:57:47] Speaker A: Always get those two mixed up.
[00:57:49] Speaker C: How can you. One's in Daytona Beach, Florida, one's in Indianapolis.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: They both have 500 in it.
[00:57:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but one has Indy, one has Daytona, so.
[00:57:59] Speaker C: Well, this is what I'll be here Rome to educate you on all things motorsports this year as I got you into Formula One. Next year can I get you into NASCAR and IndyCar this year.
[00:58:09] Speaker B: Formula's got one's got some prop bets out, man. So I'll have to get. I'll have to run those three later, Jason. They got for who's gonna win, what is it, the Constructors cup, all that stuff. Who's gonna win the Australian Grand Prix? They got results already out. We'll have to go over those odds.
[00:58:24] Speaker C: When we get close, we can go over that. I will say, I've told you guys before, my favorite driver Lewis Hamilton switched to Ferrari this year. The last time the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Lewis Hamilton was Formula one world champion that year.
[00:58:39] Speaker B: Was that okay? He's got pretty decent odds. I think it's like + 1400 to.
[00:58:45] Speaker C: Win first year at Ferrari. He's got the car that could win.
[00:58:48] Speaker A: Amazing. Anything else?
[00:58:52] Speaker C: Not unless you want to talk Lakers basketball. That's the only thing I know you want to talk about.
[00:58:56] Speaker B: Yeah, later in the week. We got that. Later in the week.
[00:58:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm ready for basketball.
[00:59:02] Speaker B: All Star game coming up this weekend too. From your area, Rome. You going to the all Star game or what? You part of those festivities?
[00:59:10] Speaker A: I think I have to be the Somalia for a few VIP stuff and then I'm waiting to hear back from TNT for like some tickets for Thursday.
So we'll see. And there's a all star outdoor club party that's going on on Saturday. I have a VIP invite for that. But I don't know.
[00:59:41] Speaker B: I mean, you don't have your daughter.
[00:59:42] Speaker A: This weekend, so it's a day party.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: You got work in the night or what?
[00:59:47] Speaker A: I do trying to decide if I can move my schedule around.
[00:59:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I think if you do go to that day party, there won't be no night work for you.
[00:59:59] Speaker A: Oh no, this is a day party where everyone gets pretty drunk like at, you know, halfway through it, it's 1 to 6 and people that leave this party at 6 o'clock like they're still drinking for the rest of the night. But like.
Yeah, it's just one of those things like once you're There.
[01:00:16] Speaker B: The.
[01:00:16] Speaker A: The rest of your night's kind of done at a really famous hotel called the Phoenix Hotel.
Kurt Cobain and a whole bunch of, like, classic music acts have stayed there, overdosed there. A lot of history. It's about, like, six blocks away from me.
I know the GM there, so maybe she can hook it up. I don't know what I have to do for that.
All right, early predictions for next year's Super Bowl.
[01:00:49] Speaker C: I already posted mine on Instagram.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: Realistic expectations.
[01:00:54] Speaker C: What are you talking about? The Bears got Ben Johnson. I said we're winning the Super Bowl.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: I, I, I actually do believe that. You believe that?
[01:01:02] Speaker C: I absolutely believe that.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:04] Speaker C: Do you see the roster?
[01:01:05] Speaker B: Jason's been about the Bears in a long time.
[01:01:08] Speaker C: Do you see the roster? The White Sox are trotting out. I can't be positive about baseball, all right? All I got in my life is basketball or is football right now. I don't got basketball either.
[01:01:18] Speaker B: No. No.
[01:01:20] Speaker C: I don't got hockey.
[01:01:20] Speaker B: He's got the Bears, and he's got Notre Dame.
[01:01:22] Speaker A: Wait, who has your basketball team?
[01:01:24] Speaker C: Well, it's the Bulls, but.
[01:01:25] Speaker A: Is it?
[01:01:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, but they're owned by the. By Reinsdorf, so he's gonna be like, the what? You know, with the White Sox, you know, they're not in it to win it.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: The Bulls.
[01:01:37] Speaker C: Way too early. Well, I'm not gonna give a prediction room, but I will tell you, I was peeking around ESPN's way too early power rankings. They do have the Chiefs number one.
[01:01:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw that. So I was gonna release my end of the year power rankings tonight, but I got home super late.
But number one, though, is definitely the Eagles.
[01:02:03] Speaker C: I think Aaron already. I think.
[01:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:05] Speaker C: I mean, I think Aaron already said the spoiler for next year was the Chargers in the AFC Championship.
[01:02:10] Speaker A: I, I heard that. I, I think Chargers are Aaron's unofficial team for the NFL. He doesn't have a team in the NFL. Really?
[01:02:19] Speaker C: Well, Aaron and I were former Charger season ticket holders together.
[01:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah, well, same.
[01:02:28] Speaker B: That Bass back when they were winning.
[01:02:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:31] Speaker C: It's when I rocked the purple. Well, Danny and Tomlinson, TCU jersey. And they thought I was wearing a Ravens jersey.
[01:02:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Ravens are Vikings, right?
[01:02:39] Speaker C: Yep.
[01:02:40] Speaker B: I think a bunch of, like, young girls are booing you.
They were.
[01:02:46] Speaker A: Boo.
[01:02:47] Speaker C: Tomlinson never played for the Vikings. Like. Yes, I know.
[01:02:52] Speaker A: Thoughts on the hall of Fame?
[01:02:58] Speaker B: The four guys that got in.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:01] Speaker B: Deserving. I mean, I'm not, I'm not surprised.
I mean, Eli, to me, never was a first ballot. You'll Likely get in probably next year or the following year.
[01:03:10] Speaker A: But he's not getting it next year. But probably in a few years. Yeah, next year is pretty loaded.
[01:03:15] Speaker B: I mean I thought Gates, I thought Antonio Gates probably should have been the first ballot hall of Famer. I mean given the numbers he's put up a tight end, but yeah, I think all guys. Jared Allen had a good career. Eric Allen good. And Sterling Sharp more than deserving. The ex Packer.
[01:03:33] Speaker A: So wait, we didn't talk about the end of the year awards, huh? Or did we already?
We did mvp.
[01:03:40] Speaker C: Yeah, we didn't talk about that.
[01:03:42] Speaker B: I think me and you Rome talked off air.
[01:03:44] Speaker A: Really?
[01:03:45] Speaker B: On a phone call that we had.
[01:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah, one of those days.
[01:03:49] Speaker B: Last.
[01:03:49] Speaker A: What do you guys think about Josh Allen taking away, taking home mvp?
[01:03:55] Speaker C: Statistically it's tough to not give it to Lamar when he has a better season this season versus he did his MVP season a year ago. Yeah, I know, I know we talked it mid season.
Josh Allen had the moments of an MVP throughout the season and sometimes with these things just like the Heisman Trophy, they always talk about Heisman moments and mvp.
I think that's where the edge goes. I mean he didn't have the stats but also like hey, great. Like he also had, he was, he wasn't projected to be close. Like there was people like, okay, he's out of the MVP race. This team's, you know, not going to make the playoffs. And he single handedly developed everyone around him and I think had a year that was above and beyond where things are at. It was close in the end. Josh won in the playoffs. I know that doesn't count for the MVP voting, but I think it was a year both guys were probably deserving. Tough to take it away from Lamar like I said, because he was better technically statistically this year versus last year. But I still think Josh Allen had an incredible season and was deserving of the award too.
[01:04:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean I, I didn't have a problem with Josh Allen winning.
[01:05:02] Speaker A: I mean a lot of people, it.
[01:05:05] Speaker B: Came as a surprise given that he didn't make all the all pro team and the all pro team votes for the mvp. So everybody kind of thought, you know, Lamar was going to win it, his stats were better. But yeah, I mean if you look at the roster and everything, Ellen had less to work with. I thought the Bills were going to have a bad year ahead. I'm third in that division. I had McDermott getting fired and the Bill's not making the playoffs. So that was probably the one team all year. I was dead wrong about everyone else. Was probably 80 plus percent right? But, yeah, I mean, Josh Allen, I didn't have a problem with him winning mvp. I mean, the three top guys were Saquon, Allen and Lamar. And they didn't disappoint this year. So any one of those three, I would have been fine with winning the mvp. Honestly.
[01:05:56] Speaker A: Oh, man, I can't think. I think that's all I got today. I'm gonna do some editing on this one.
[01:06:02] Speaker C: Got a little squirrely here towards the end.
[01:06:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I'll catch you guys later.
[01:06:07] Speaker C: All right, see you.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: Well, we gotta make sure we first.
[01:06:11] Speaker C: Yeah. You gotta stop recording.
