Football Weekend Recap: Aaron Crashes Out on the Carolina Panthers, Florida State Seminoles, and His Plea for a GM Job

November 26, 2025 01:11:47
Football Weekend Recap: Aaron Crashes Out on the Carolina Panthers, Florida State Seminoles, and His Plea for a GM Job
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Football Weekend Recap: Aaron Crashes Out on the Carolina Panthers, Florida State Seminoles, and His Plea for a GM Job

Nov 26 2025 | 01:11:47

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Roman Valdez Aaron Toller Jaeson Zinke

Show Notes

Things start off spicy and continues throughout as Aaron rants about the Panthers poor play and performance against the Niners on MNF. Rome lets some steam go as well when talking about his Steelers losing to Jaeson's Bears in when they talk close wins and losses (08:22) before they also touch on the Chip Kelly firing (17:18), Nick Sirianni (23:33), and a look into what the playoffs look like today (34:15).

Aaron continues his crashing out for the college football recap with his Florida State Seminoles bringing back Mike Norvell for another season (43:17). That and a rough couple of weeks in the books, this guy is super amped for the pod! The guys also talk more Lane Kiffin LSU rumors (54:19) before talking about the mess with the ACC and Miami's chances of getting back into the CFP (59:00). They then end with Aaron's plea for a GM job and a preview into the mega turkey-day pod later in the week.

Host: Rome Valdez

Co-Hosts: Aaron Toller, Jaeson Zinke

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome back to source of the sofa. We are recording live Monday night just seconds after Monday Night Football concluded, which I thought was kind of entertaining, at least in the first half. So many turnovers, interceptions, strip fumbles, all of all of above. First place at stake and at least maintaining with the elites for the 49ers sake. Panthers were tied coming to this game with the Bucks and they've as. They've kind of stumbled down the stretch. Lots of injuries, lots of tough matchups. So they had a chance to gain full possession of first place in the NFC South. They failed to do that, but it was entertaining though. Aaron coming on, very hot off the mic, very salty for lots of reasons. [00:00:48] Speaker B: Nothing entertaining about that game, dude, but. [00:00:51] Speaker A: I thought it was a good game. [00:00:52] Speaker B: I mean if you want, if you want to, if you want to see law passes like referral and alley oops at an NBA game, come watch the 49ers and Brock Purdy play quarterback because that was terrible. I agree with Jason. Get Mac Jones in and I'm get rid of that contract right now. I didn't know there was. I didn't know Russell Wilson had a twin and Brock Purdy just throwing moon balls out there. Jesus. [00:01:15] Speaker A: As far as picks goes, Jason is on the roll. First time on our pod history that someone has won above.500 and won the weeks back to back. So congratulations, Jason. You were 7 and 5, what last week? I think thought it was 8 and 5 last week. 8 and 5? [00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah. 8 5, 8, 5 1. And then I think I was 7, 6, 1. And Romeo, you were 671 or whatever. [00:01:39] Speaker A: It was, but 661. [00:01:40] Speaker B: We. [00:01:41] Speaker A: We were both tied, Aaron, me and you. And we tied again this week. But Jason finishes this week eight four and one. So now he's in sole possession of first place, two game lead. Amazing. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah, amazing. Jason got smart. He sold us on the Panthers stock and then dumped it like the stock market's been doing and we've. And then we or I fell for that trip. But give me the Rams plus 10, 12, whatever. I'm already locking that one in. [00:02:11] Speaker C: You tell me. You're telling me. I was pumping the Panthers market right now just to dump it on you guys. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Dumped it, dumped it. Just dump that whole NFC South. It's just terrible, terrible division. In fact. In fact, give me the Falcons to win it, led by Kirk Cousins. I'll bet them at + like 2000, whatever they are to win the division. Now if the, if the Ravens can come back from five games below.500, I'm sure. The Falcons can as well. Baker's done. Panthers are done. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Saints guy just wants to throw everyone off the power rankings and off every playoff list, huh? [00:02:46] Speaker B: Panthers don't everybody. They go in the bottom five or bottom eight, wherever you want to pin them. [00:02:50] Speaker A: It's a tough place to play. Santa Clara. That was entertaining though. Man, it was so many turnovers. [00:02:58] Speaker B: I mean, Stafford's still throwing for touchdowns. The last time he was there, it was a walk in the park. [00:03:03] Speaker C: Aaron's. Aaron's spicy. [00:03:05] Speaker B: You got a quarterback that threw for 448 last week and you don't put on the Matt Stafford tape with a chance to win the division. That's what you come out and play. I'd be embarrassed. Brian, they call it. Brian Dable. Wasn't he the coach of Bryce Young there at Alabama? Maybe he can run the OC there. I get at least an offense and analysis guy. [00:03:23] Speaker A: Something how much money you lose this weekend? [00:03:27] Speaker B: I had a good week going and some BS just, you know, these couple of night games. The only prime time game that was any good was a Thursday night. When's the last time that happened? [00:03:36] Speaker A: We've been saying that the primetime games have been pretty bad. The Thursday was. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Thursday was. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Thursday was good. But it was also bad for the Bills though because they only had 3G, you know, three days of turnout time. So that sucked for them. That's a tough. [00:03:48] Speaker B: Texas only had three days too. I mean if you count playing the Titans a game. [00:03:52] Speaker A: Not really. Well, it was. They. They did come back. Yeah, they had a fight for that one. So I guess Tech. Well, I guess this is the second week back to back. We wore at least 500 and above, so that's good. I was really worried though because I was not looking good going to the afternoon games. We had a couple pushes, got lucky on a few hooks. Some game time decisions that I changed at least on on Twitter. Did not like the Seahawks above with the 13 and a half cushion and I was also feeling really shaky about the Vikings. Did not feel good about that. So went the other way on the X. But other than that though I was kind of surprised. Jason had a great call on the Saints Falcons. I went with like the quote unquote better coach but Jason said I'm gonna go with the talent and it really showed through in that game. So Jason's just on fire right now. I'm gonna pump you up and they'll hopefully fade you for the rest of the year like a little reverse chicks here. [00:04:53] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know, I think, I think Jason, what we've seen in college football, he is trending in the wrong direction there in the NFL. So until he turns it around on Saturday, I think you got on Sunday. Okay. [00:05:04] Speaker A: And then also the Lions. I did not feel comfortable that morning. [00:05:08] Speaker B: That line closed at 14. Really? [00:05:12] Speaker A: Maybe feeling. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Maybe the line was built in for Dart to play and then once he got called out, but it closed at 14. 14 and a half. [00:05:19] Speaker A: Dude, that Jason or that, that, that Jameson catch. [00:05:24] Speaker B: Oh, I loved it, manoo. [00:05:26] Speaker A: Going to the end zone and then they kind of perfectly nailed it. Like, like, like the touchdown celebration. Like it was made for tv. It was made for like Hallmark and it was so good, man. [00:05:34] Speaker B: I wish they did that in practice. Scripted it just like that. And it worked in the game. And they were like. [00:05:40] Speaker A: So the camera angle was perfect. It was, man, like J. He should just be like starting all the time. The guy's so good. So entertaining. Threw a pick at the end. I was so ugly saying it from. [00:05:52] Speaker C: The beginning of the season, man. I don't know why this guy wasn't in more consideration for starting. I mean, just even in a pure entertainment value, like he's. You got to be the number one backup. He's sitting third in the depth chart. No reason. I mean, give me a little entertainment NFL for your, for your bottom feeder teams, at least to watch some of these games. He comes in, absolutely delivers. You get a full Jamis experience. All sorts of wacky stuff. He was wearing, you know, he's wearing like a full outfit like coming into the game. Then he has. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Then he had like all black afterwards. He looked like Blade or something like that. [00:06:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, he's doing, you know, entertaining there with the fashion front. And then he was given like, know some pre. I forgot his pregame speech that was just like, we're playing inside and we're playing outside at the same time or something like that. Yeah, just dropping bars, man. I mean, Jamis is just entertaining. [00:06:41] Speaker B: You need. [00:06:41] Speaker C: This guy needs to be a certified backup in a situation where you're going to give him a couple starts a year just to have these Sundays. [00:06:47] Speaker B: Hey, I gotta ask you, why isn't he not in one of these progressive commercials? We're calling them backup quarterbacks. Why isn't Jameis Winston the star of all of them? [00:06:56] Speaker A: They're. They're calling every backup that's not even playing anymore, right? [00:06:59] Speaker C: I. [00:06:59] Speaker B: No, they're. [00:07:00] Speaker C: I mean, they're playing. [00:07:00] Speaker B: I mean, no, I got rich water. You got Tyler Huntley. You got you know, so you got to get famous. Jamis in there. I'm calling for it now. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that'd be kind of cool. Dude, they almost stole that away, though. [00:07:14] Speaker B: W's, man. [00:07:14] Speaker A: Eating them W's. Well, no W's, because they didn't win was like their sixth game being up by more than 10 points in the fourth quarter. They fired their defensive coordinator. And honestly, like, for, like, they're like the best looking 2 and 10 teams, I think there's a really good job to have. They're really talented. They've been a handful of these games, and, man, if Detroit would have lost out in really bad. They dug in deep. Jameric Gibbs with a big touchdown in overtime. They got lucky to get away with that one. [00:07:45] Speaker B: All right. [00:07:46] Speaker A: I was hoping you guys would add some more stuff to it, but I. [00:07:48] Speaker B: Guess I'll just say this. I was. I was hoping they lose because, you know, I'm just. I'm just waiting to build up that video from early in the year. Of course, I'm just ready to pump it. [00:07:57] Speaker A: This guy's just. I'm just ready to pump it. Yeah, you know, I can hear that. [00:08:01] Speaker B: You got some pump it up. Yeah, I got that music in the background. Like, I'm ready to rock. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:08:07] Speaker B: And I don't like this new Riverside look. I mean, I can't even see the damn freaking screen. I don't even know what's going on here. [00:08:13] Speaker A: Maybe extend this. [00:08:15] Speaker B: The. [00:08:15] Speaker A: The. I don't know. I. I can't. I can't see it from your guys angle, so I want to try it on as a guest one day. Nonetheless, some really close wins, close losses, some plays pissed off that my Steelers lost in Chicago. You got so lucky, Jason. So lucky. [00:08:39] Speaker C: I don't know what you're talking about, man. Three, eight and three. First place in the NFC North. We were up by 10 in the fourth quarter. Romance. Talking about lucky. Where was the luck in that game? [00:08:51] Speaker A: It's a display. Dude, I'm so pissed off at my team. We were getting deflections, getting strips, scoring on. On defense. I don't know if you saw Rudolph in his and his porn mustache. How are you gonna lose with that mustache? They almost had a touchdown, but they had wrong formation that got called back. Nah, man, I'm. That's so. This Steelers team looks really, I don't know, unorganized. A mess. All of above. [00:09:22] Speaker C: Listen, the Bears are just getting better every week. Rome, you know, putting the work in, you know, grinding it out, you know, whatever opponent in front of Them, they're just winning games. I don't know what to tell you here. [00:09:31] Speaker A: You know, this is a, A, a good win by the Bears, I gotta admit, man. [00:09:35] Speaker B: So, I mean, everyone's a good win for the Bears. And they've got a big game on Black Friday for Paul, possibly the 12 seed in the NFC on the line. That's ridiculous. [00:09:45] Speaker A: Oh, my God. After the Halloween. Is this like Groundhog's Day? The one or two seed in the nfc? Come on. This can't be real. [00:09:54] Speaker C: I mean, that's what the record. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Someone pinched me, dude. Someone pinched me like wild, man. Another field goal. Amazing. Amazing. Were you happy, Jason? [00:10:09] Speaker C: Well, of course I was happy, Rome. [00:10:10] Speaker A: But, you know, I saw your, I saw your Instagram post. [00:10:13] Speaker C: Yeah, you saw it? I put it out there. Yeah, I mean, I, I was concerned. I won't lie. You had all three starting linebackers on injured reserve, and then your drafted linebacker, who was probably their top one, gets hurt in the first quarter. And, you know, we still didn't get Jalen Johnson or Kyler Gordon back. So you're still playing with your third through fifth defensive backs. So, yeah, I think there was a lot of concern on the defense for the Bears, but turnovers, man, and they, they, they make the turnovers happen and that's, that's where they win these games. So I, I would think. [00:10:53] Speaker B: I would. [00:10:54] Speaker C: Have been concerned if Rogers would have played, to be honest with you, because if you looked a little bit deeper, Rome, like, you may have liked the mustache for Mason Rudolph, but the guy to get the ball the. Down the field at all, like all he was doing was dink and duck stuff every, every which way. And, you know, I don't know how you're not going after the Bears linebackers, you know, to the point where they're starting. So I, I think if Rogers in that game, he probably takes advantage a little more. It's going to be tough. You know, same thing with the Bears game against the Giants with, you know, they had. Giants were in control with dart in. As soon as Russell Wilson goes in, he couldn't do anything, you know, you know, in the intermediate passing game or even the deep passing game. And in the, in the Bears defense is shut down. So, you know, there, there's some luck involved. I'm not going to lie about it and pound my chest and say the Bears are the west, one of the best teams. I don't think they are. I think this is the first year the Ben Johnson era, the defense is flawed very. You know, they give Up a lot of yards. They give up big third down conversions a lot of times, you know, the, the Steelers went what, like 93 yards on that drive or 97 yards or something like that. They're like inside the five. Yeah, gamewall was great. So there's, there's flaws within the Bears. I'm not saying this is going to be a Super bowl team at all. I'm just appreciative, like, hey, we're winning games. They're in line to get a playoff spot. It's a really tough division. They got the hardest point of their schedule, like here going out. You know, they're putting a play. The Eagles, they got two games against the Packers. They got on the game against the Lions. They play the 49ers, you know, the only gimme game and it's not even a gimme game because it's, the tough defense is going to be that Cleveland Browns game. So it's, it's not all, it's not all rosy for the Bears and they've got some things to clean up now. The good thing is they're going to get some players back. There's some health, you know, that you're potentially getting in the secondary. The linebackers hopefully come back in the, in the December push. So yeah, there, there's some good things, but there's a lot of concerns at the moment. You take the wins however you can get them and they play the teams in front of them. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [00:12:47] Speaker C: I'm not blind. I'm not blind, Drum. I'm not blind about the Bears. [00:12:51] Speaker A: No, no. Congrats, dude. I was, I was really pissed. Not in a good mood. And it is what it is though. Some close games though this week. We had Colts, Chiefs, Colts. Blew that one. Don't know how they didn't manage to do anything in the fourth quarter and that especially when they were up. Chiefs dug in and kind of saved their season. For now. I'm not buying it, but at least for now they saved it. [00:13:15] Speaker B: That's, that's a big game on Thanksgiving now. Chiefs, Cowboys. I think that's the game of the week. Honestly. [00:13:21] Speaker A: Huge Seahawks tie ins. A little closer than what I thought. That was pretty tight. Jets had Ravens on the ropes until the second half. We probably cover that one, right? Yeah. [00:13:32] Speaker B: 13. [00:13:33] Speaker A: Thank you for a lot of, A. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Lot of half point, A lot of half point wins. [00:13:37] Speaker A: This Lions escape the Giants. We saw that one. Bears beat this. My Steelers, Pats, Bengals didn't look too bad, but Pats win another one. Didn't watch The Browns, Raiders. But congrats to Shador winning that one. He looked pretty decent, had some nice throws. Jags, Cardinals. We knew this might be tough. And was this the push? This was the push. And you got to figure, man, that's. That's the Cardinals, man. What them and. And the Giants notorious for losing the final couple seconds. Down by a field goal at least. And they got some heart still. So I'm not sure if their coach makes it after this year or not. Gannon. I heard there's a lot of heat behind the scenes. Cowboys, Eagles. A few epic come from behind wins this weekend. Cowboys, I think, had the biggest one out of all them besides the Chiefs and the Lions. The Cowboys come back and win that one 24, 21, what was like a 50 yard field goal. That was pretty epic. And then we don't got to talk about the other games. I think everything else is out. But out of all these games, though, biggest win, luckiest win. [00:14:50] Speaker B: No, I think if you got the two biggest wins, I think we just. I talked about would be Chiefs, Cowboys, because they were basically left for dead. I mean, the Chiefs were down, what was it, 11 points going in the fourth quarter. [00:15:03] Speaker A: 11 points with eight minutes to go. [00:15:04] Speaker B: And then out out yardage. The Colts like, I don't have my phone in front of me here, but it was like 200 to something to 14 in the fourth quarter, whatever the yardage was. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Can we look that up real quick? Yeah, dude. They just like, if you look at the stats, I, I don't know how much came in the second half, but it just looks like they just dominated the whole game. 500 total yards versus 2:50. You know, I've been first downs. Not even close. Like what happened to Daniel Jones? Like what? [00:15:27] Speaker B: No, I've been. I've been a big Shane Stiking guy. I'm pinning that loss on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pinning the loss on him. He just was not aggressive with the play calling. Didn't. Didn't have the cojones to go for that win when he had a chance to pit the Chiefs out of their business. Yeah, I pinned that loss on him as the head coach there. He's got it. He takes the L to me. I'm not putting on Daniel Jones and those guys. [00:15:48] Speaker A: All right, so Chiefs and Cowboys. Cowboys, big win, man. Just lots of drama with the, with the Eagles. It's starting to remind me like that. It's starting to look like that year, like two years ago when they lost their oc. What? [00:16:03] Speaker B: When. [00:16:03] Speaker A: When Stichting. Went over to the Colts. So Dak and company, big win. George Pickens, man. Like, I loved him on the Steelers and I was pissed when my team traded him to the Dallas Cowboys. And like, oh, you can't have two number ones. Like, why not? Because now we have nobody. Decaf has not caught a fucking thing all season long. Because he's not open. Because we have nobody else. Like, how come we had to get rid of Pickens? I know he's a pain in the ass, but Jesus Christ, look at him having a season to remember. [00:16:29] Speaker B: You think Pickens ends up staying in Dallas? I think he. I think he's gone to where? [00:16:35] Speaker C: I don't think they can afford to pay him. [00:16:37] Speaker B: I think. Yeah, I don't think they can. That's why I think. [00:16:39] Speaker A: I don't know where he goes, though. Like, I By. This guy's phenomenal, though. [00:16:42] Speaker B: I got. I got where Jason was at this weekend. That's where he ends up, kid. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Okay, what? [00:16:50] Speaker C: Vegas? [00:16:51] Speaker A: Vegas with the Raiders? [00:16:54] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:54] Speaker A: Why there? [00:16:56] Speaker B: You have no wide receivers and you're not paying a quarterback. [00:17:02] Speaker A: Well, not. Well there. Gino's still getting kind of paid. [00:17:08] Speaker B: I mean, what, 25 mil? That's. That's a bargain for today's 25. [00:17:14] Speaker A: 30 mil. That's crazy, man. That's so crazy. [00:17:17] Speaker C: Crazy, crazy. The Raiders fired Chip Kelly too. Considering that crazy. He was the highest paid coordinator. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Six mil a year. That's not a bad gig for an oc. [00:17:28] Speaker A: He thanked the Raiders for the opportunity. Said it was a dream come true working for Gino because he liked Geno. Couldn't tell by. Based on the play calling, he was putting Geno in. But. [00:17:38] Speaker B: Well, they can't run the ball, so they have to do something. [00:17:42] Speaker A: 1. [00:17:43] Speaker C: The one thing I'd say a little bit. You look at the. The Chip Kelly resume here. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Aaron. [00:17:48] Speaker C: Is he a good coach? [00:17:49] Speaker A: I don't know. It's hit or miss. It kind of depends on the situation. [00:17:53] Speaker C: I mean, this is the one where he. He got. He got the glow up, you know. [00:17:57] Speaker B: I don't think he's a good NFL coach, but for the collegiate. For the collegiate game, I think he's good. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:04] Speaker C: Which. Which makes me quite. I mean, he basically, for like the. [00:18:07] Speaker A: First two years in. In Philly too, like. And then just all fell apart. I. I don't. It was more like the power trip, right. That kind of got him booted out. [00:18:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:16] Speaker C: I don't. [00:18:17] Speaker B: We got Howie Roseman fired the first time or, or relieved of whatever duties he had because of the Power struggle. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Yeah, because he was. I think he won like 11 games this first year. And then it was like all that power trip stuff happened and then everything fell apart. Then he got kicked out. But yeah, you're right. He. He's bounced around. He had middling success at UCLA. Went over, just bounced out. [00:18:38] Speaker B: Well, considering where UCLA's been the last two years, Chip Kelly's resume looks really good there. [00:18:44] Speaker A: I, I thought you should have said. [00:18:48] Speaker B: What, 8 mil a year there? [00:18:50] Speaker A: It was decent. It was good. [00:18:52] Speaker C: But the weirdest thing, that he just leaves being a head coach because I don't want to deal with the stuff and I'm going to go be a coordinator at Ohio State and just get to the actual football stuff and then leaves Ohio State after a year. Does this stuff in the, you know, NFL gets fired. I don't know, just. It's just real weird when you watch these guys that, you know, is, they're, they're. I don't know, you call it prodigy or whatever like that. Like, I don't think anyone's stock was higher than him at Oregon. Goes to the Philadelphia, doesn't work out, gets to the Niners. [00:19:19] Speaker B: There's one year at the Niners, right? One year at the Niners and went like 5 and 5 and 11, 5 and 12. [00:19:24] Speaker A: I forgot about that, man. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Yeah, but the Niners was a bad team. That was just kind of like a fill in at the time. [00:19:31] Speaker C: It's just an interesting career just considering like where he was. Like, this was like the hot shot innovating offense when you think a decade plus ago and now, you know, when UCLA hired him, I was like, oh, man, this is a pretty big hire. And then, you know, I was pumped. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Yep, I was pumped. [00:19:46] Speaker B: Well, I think getting fired now. Yeah, well, Chip Kelly was never like, Oregon was weird because he came. Did he come from D2? Like, because he's from like, what, the New Hampshire? New Hampshire. There it is. I was like, Vermont, New Hampshire. [00:20:01] Speaker A: He looks like a New Hampshire guy, actually. [00:20:02] Speaker B: So he came to Oregon as an oc. Did he work under. Was it Mike Boletti, whatever his name was? Because Oregon was good, but not. Yeah, yeah, because they were good. Because I was a big. I mean, I was a big Oregon guy back when they had Joey, was it Harrington back in the early 2000s. And then he got there, he took them to another level. But he's never been a good recruiter. Like, Oregon was never recruiting like elite talent. Just basically USC and ucla, all the guys that Pete Carroll didn't want to recruit they all went up north to Washington and Oregon. And there's a lot of talent in California, obviously. California, Texas, Florida, ton of high school talent. And you know, who knows, maybe Oregon and Phil Knight was sneaking out in ideals back then. I don't know. But they had a lot of players. [00:20:50] Speaker A: I know. [00:20:51] Speaker B: I mean the national championship game they lost against Auburn. Remember the year the running back basically landed on the defender and then ran down the sidelines for like a 75 yard touchdown? I mean they lost some heartbreak games in the, in the playoff, the BCS era. [00:21:04] Speaker A: So yeah, I, I don't know. Where does Chip Kelly go after this though, with like another short st in the NFL? That's pretty wild. But. Yeah. All right, so you had a couple big win nominees. Jason, you got one besides those two Cowboys and Chiefs. [00:21:22] Speaker C: I, I would have said the Cowboys just because, I mean, I. Yeah, I mean I don't think there's anything besides that, but the Cowboys get giving how shocking it was. I'm not gonna lie. Aaron mentioned I was in Vegas over the weekend at the Las Vegas Grand Prix. Got home, you know, finished the Bears game and I took it. You know, Cowboys were up and I took a little nap, you know, nice little Sunday afternoon nap. And then I woke up and the game was tied. Going to the end of the fourth quarter, I'm like, what happened to this game? I thought the Eagles were running through them at a certain point and you know, A.J. brown was getting the ball and everything like that. But you know, the Cowboys team, definitely flawed. Can't trust the defense, you know, pretty much at all. But the offense, when it clicks, it can click. Especially when Dax in the lineup. And for him, you know, the years that he's been healthy, this team's been really good. When he wasn't healthy like last year and then there was health around him this year it wasn't as good. But sitting at 5, 5 and 1, like you would have thought, hey, they're eliminated, they're out of it. But you know, we're not that far removed from the Eagles just collapsing out of nowhere the second half of the season and like getting in by the. Was it last year? They basically get on the skin of their teeth. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Two years ago they were what, 11 and what? 11 and 1 and finished 12 and 5. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:39] Speaker B: And then got oust by. [00:22:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:41] Speaker B: Was it Tampa in the first round? [00:22:44] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:22:45] Speaker C: So. So everything about that, I mean the locker room is basically like. It's chaos. And I guess they kind of survive in chaos and the drama of everything going on there. But at a certain point, there's got to be a boiling point. And this in the super bowl may have saved the team for a little bit, but, you know, I don't know. I mean, I've long said they should be the best team, but in the nfc, but right now, I think the Rams probably look better. The Niners look really good. They're slopping this thing together, and, like, it's hard to say. The Niners aren't what the better. Could be a potentially better team. Obviously, there's a lot of competition in the NFC north, but the Eagles don't look much as of a lock. And, hey, they. They start sliding here, and the Cowboys win some games. We have to. We have to play schedule ones. But, yeah, I mean, I think it's a big win for the Cowboys because it keeps them in it. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, speaking of coaches, I was thinking about this last night because you brought up Chip Kelly. How good of a coach. How good of a coach is Nick Sirianni? Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know if, like, Nick Sirianni's like, yeah, but I don't know if, like, Nick Sirianni is, like, such a great coach that he can keep this chaotic team alive and that they're 8 and 3 and continue to win. Is it. Is he a great coach for that, or is it just the talent's so good they win despite him? I. I really don't know because, I mean, if you look at his record over the four years there, it's hard to get rid of this guy. But, like, Jason, and we look at every week, this team is so talented. How do you lose a 21 nothing lead against a Cowboys team that is flawed beyond belief? I mean, they are flawed. We just watched them three weeks ago get destroyed by an Arizona team that's not very good. They were getting manhandled. I mean, it was 21012 minutes ago in the second quarter. And I was looking because we talked about the game. I took the Cowboys, and I was like, I took them off a gut. But when I was looking at all the stats, like, Jason was like, going to the Eagles. I'm like, all the stats point to the Eagles whipping their ass. And I'm like, I don't know. Why the hell am I gonna take the Cowboys? [00:24:39] Speaker A: Three and a half. [00:24:41] Speaker B: Yeah. But it's just, they had no business winning that game. I mean, Jason took a nap, and like you said, he woke up, he couldn't believe they still hadn't scored another point. This is not a good defense at all. I mean, they're better, I guess, getting with the trades they've made, but, I mean, really, you can't score over the next. What is that, 47 minutes of that game? I mean, it's. That's. That's crazy there. [00:25:03] Speaker A: I love the Cowboys point differential, man. It's. It's eight points. 320 points scored. 314 allowed. That's wild. [00:25:13] Speaker B: Is 314 the most points allowed in the league? [00:25:16] Speaker A: No. You got giants at 334. You have. [00:25:23] Speaker B: Bengals. Got to be up there. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Bengals are at 360. [00:25:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I knew they had to. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Bengals are at 360. Wow. And then Titans are at 303, so. [00:25:35] Speaker B: And they have no offense, so, I mean, their defense is on the field the whole game, so that's actually probably pretty good for them. [00:25:40] Speaker A: That's not bad, actually. That's not bad. I would say big win actually would have been the Lions coming back from behind and escaping and getting that one. That was a must for them. Wasn't a guaranteed W, but they had to get that one. And then I would say. [00:26:02] Speaker B: I think there's a lot of big wins. Rome, I mean, Lions, I'd put up there. You got to throw the Ravens now in first in the division. Jaguars, Big win for them. We talked about the Texans with a big win Thursday night. I mean, a lot of teams needed big wins this week. Got it. Chiefs, Cowboys, Lions, Ravens, Jaguars. Even the 49ers. They keep pace and pressure on Seattle and the ramps to keep winning. We're all big wins. Nice. [00:26:33] Speaker C: I. Not a big wins for a team, but I'll say, hey, big win for a person. Shador Sanders. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:41] Speaker C: First start, gets a win, and doesn't look like they're giving the job back to Gabriel, so. [00:26:47] Speaker A: He had some pretty crazy throws, man. This guy's still pretty athletic. I don't know. [00:26:52] Speaker B: They got the 49ers. They got the 49ers game. [00:26:56] Speaker A: I like how, like, they're starting to show, like, all the winning coaches, you know, like their speeches. And Stefanski barely gave any love the should or in the. In the post game. Just think, like, yeah, dude, they don't like this guy. They don't like this guy at all. It's all over. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah, they got 10 sacks in that game. Roman gets a bad Raiders team. I. Let's. Let's hold for it. [00:27:16] Speaker C: Nfc. The NFC south right now. I don't know if it's. We're talking big Wins right now. I mean Aaron was kind of talking about the top of the pod and he was having his own feelings about the Carolina Panthers. [00:27:26] Speaker A: But yeah, apparently six and six and. [00:27:28] Speaker C: They'Re a half game out of first right now in the NFC South. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Who? [00:27:33] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Who? [00:27:34] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [00:27:35] Speaker B: Who? [00:27:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. [00:27:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:38] Speaker A: Bucks have lost what, three games straight now. [00:27:40] Speaker C: Three in a row. [00:27:42] Speaker A: They're banged up. They're supposed to get players back. But now Mayfield's banged up. See how that is. He's carrying that team well. [00:27:48] Speaker B: I mean, what's interesting about that. You got the Panthers got the Rams come in and then a buy. Then they fit have two against Tampa, Seattle and New Orleans in there. I only see him winning one of those games. If not, if not none. They may. They'll be lucky to win. Panthers. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Panthers. Yeah. [00:28:06] Speaker B: They're only one that I see him probably getting the remainder of the seasons at New Orleans. New Orleans already beat them. [00:28:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:13] Speaker B: I mean the Rams are going to trash them. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Well, they got the divisional game against the Bucks, you know. Well, they got two against the Bucks. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yeah. And they got Seattle too. [00:28:23] Speaker A: It's the NFL. So I'm gonna say they have two more wins in that five game stretch right there. [00:28:27] Speaker B: Yeah. But they'll probably win the rest of their games. Just how this damn league goes. [00:28:31] Speaker A: But now I don't finish at 8. [00:28:33] Speaker B: I think the Rams trash them. [00:28:35] Speaker A: Hopefully we'll see how it goes. Hopefully. Rams looking like the best team in the NFL. Stafford should be the only leading candidate for MVP right now. Just lights out. And that it's also looking like. Based my preseason predictions, man, I think I had. [00:28:54] Speaker B: No, you might have had the Niners last in that division. You basically did what we did last year with the Bills. You did with the four, but the Rams this year with the Rams. [00:29:03] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. So I had the Niners first. [00:29:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:08] Speaker A: I had the Seahawks second. So I'm looking pretty good there. I had the Cards initially third. But it's a 34 for. For them and a 43 for the. For the Rams. Like either or like those. [00:29:20] Speaker B: It's like a three and a half. You got them tied. [00:29:22] Speaker A: I had them under their. Under their over. Under of 10 and a half wins. Aaron, you said 10 to 11 wins over me and Jason had the under on that one. Yeah, but this is all based on Stafford not playing everything like being like a show like in, in camp, some rotiers, all that stuff. And he's looked like they just juiced. [00:29:44] Speaker B: Him up with whatever Kobe got in Germany Vegas. Yeah, I remember Romeo in Vegas, you were talking smack on the Rams, and I told you staffer would be fine. [00:29:54] Speaker A: You did. [00:29:54] Speaker B: I told you. I told. I told you my sources had told me, don't worry if they got a Will melt during a wheelchair. He's gonna be fine come week one. You're like, nah, dude, it's not even walking. I'm like, dude, he's fine. That's all Hollywood tidbit story. Don't worry about it. He'll be fine. He's not like Clayton Kershaw that needs like six months off and only shows up to pitch in the playoffs out of the bullpen. He'll be ready to go first inning, throwing strikes, leading him down the stretcher. [00:30:22] Speaker A: So I needed. Yeah, Rams look good, though. All right, so we were talking about the Panthers, all that stuff. Let's look at the division, I guess. Or you guys want to nominate ass weapon of the week? [00:30:33] Speaker B: I think it was Tampa. Was that pretty. Is that pretty easy? All the games were close except that one, right? [00:30:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. It could be like a. [00:30:43] Speaker B: Tampa got their ass kicked. That game was over, like, in the third quarter. [00:30:46] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. Cool Ass One of the week. [00:30:50] Speaker C: The only. The only other one I think is a. The only when his contention would have been the Vikings. Packers. [00:30:54] Speaker A: Yeah. You want. You want. You want to Talk shit on JJ McCarthy again? You got the mic? [00:31:00] Speaker B: Do you. [00:31:00] Speaker C: Do you want me to. [00:31:01] Speaker B: I don't know if Jason has. I don't know if Jason. I don't know if Jason. And we have enough time on the show to keep going ranting about how bad JJ McCarthy. [00:31:09] Speaker A: I saw your tweet that they sound like. Yeah, whatever, man. It's still only game six, but that the. I was only tell one side of the story. [00:31:16] Speaker B: They're hiding them again. Rome. They're just throwing me concussion protocol. They don't know what to do with them. [00:31:21] Speaker A: He felt sick on the airplane. [00:31:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel sick watching him myself play, too, watching that film. [00:31:27] Speaker C: Yeah, the stat was just like, out of all the quarterbacks since 2000, the only one that's worse than him is Jamarcus Russell. [00:31:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I just hate that stat. [00:31:36] Speaker B: Marcus Russell got 54 mil in that rookie NFL contract. That's why they don't give those out no more. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. [00:31:43] Speaker C: It's. It's just saying I. I question the draft pick overall. I think a lot of people were, you're a big Michigan guy, but like that. Michigan hid them to win the national championship game. And he's had a couple Good quarters here and there and I, I think at best he's a backup in the league. [00:31:59] Speaker B: It's truly, I think right now he's at best he's a third string emergency guy. [00:32:04] Speaker A: What's his alter ego? [00:32:06] Speaker C: Is it 9? Is it his 9 or whatever? [00:32:12] Speaker A: Biggest loss of the week. That's just gonna give it to the Vikings, I guess probably the Steelers. [00:32:18] Speaker C: That's Steelers, dude. [00:32:20] Speaker A: That's a bad loss. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Yeah, Bills. Bill's up there too. It's up there. I mean, they're not gonna, they're not gonna win the division now. [00:32:26] Speaker A: That was a tough one. [00:32:29] Speaker C: Yeah, you kind of want to. You kind of want to throw the Bengals in there a little bit. It's not a bad loss. But now they're getting Burrow back this week and they're gonna be sitting at three and eight and if they could have snuck one or two of these games that were close to Flacco. Yeah, I know. And just, I mean, Patriots are good. Drake May had, you know, was solid, but he had some bad throws in that game too. [00:32:47] Speaker A: The first half he was bad and they turned around. [00:32:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker C: But yeah, it's not a bad loss for the Bengals. But now, hey, you're getting Burrow back with being at 3 and 8. You got to go undefeated down the stretch to have a chance. Maybe. I guess they don't have a chance. [00:33:04] Speaker A: It's just for respect now. Self pride. [00:33:07] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you talk about. Yeah, I mean, look at bad loss because a chase stupid spitting on rams. He gets suspended. [00:33:13] Speaker A: He finally made it to it. [00:33:14] Speaker B: Now, now. Yeah, now you lose. T. Higgins, he's out. Concussion, so he's not playing Thursday. You get chased back, Burrow's likely back. Yeah, I agree. I mean, the Bengals are up there. I think Steelers. Bill's up there. I'm gonna throw out this team too, because I've been hot on them all night. Panthers. You got a chance to take the division lead and not only do you not win, you don't even show up. You don't even show up. It gets, it gets a backup team like the 49ers. I mean, the 49ers don't even have a wide receiver that could beat me in a foot race. And you're laying 15 yards off in coverage. I'm telling you right now, no way. These guys, these guys have come hobbling up down at the 20. I'll go 40 yard dash of any of these guys, they end up with. [00:33:55] Speaker A: What you eat before the pod, man. What'd you eat? [00:33:59] Speaker B: I'm Just saying, man. Cannot watch bad football week in, week out when I could already know what's coming. I can't watch them no more, dude. I'm done. I'm taking them against every team, against them the rest of the year. I don't care what the number is guaranteed to go. Guaranteed to go at least three and three or two and three. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Do you guys have the updated list of what the playoffs look like right now for both conferences? Because I don't have that up right now. [00:34:24] Speaker B: I. I don't have my phone on me, but I guess I just want. [00:34:26] Speaker A: To talk about that real quickly. So we got Pat's first team to 10 wins. [00:34:31] Speaker B: Pat's already hit their over under on the season win total. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Broncos at number two, I'm assuming at nine and two. [00:34:38] Speaker C: Yeah, you got the Broncos at nine and two, the Colts are at eight and three and the Ravens at six and five would be the four seed leading the. Leading the North Wild Cards right now. You'd have the Chargers and Jags, it's. And Bills all at seven and four. [00:34:54] Speaker A: Do they have the tiebreaker over the Steelers? Is that why Ravens. [00:34:57] Speaker C: The Steeler. No, the Steel. Well, yeah, they'd have the tiebreaker. I think it's probably division or conference wins or something like that. The Ravens are 2. 0 in the division, Steelers are 2 and 1, Ravens 4 and 3 in the conference. Yeah, I don't know. [00:35:15] Speaker B: Division. Yeah, yeah. [00:35:18] Speaker C: So, but yeah, I mean, you got a close race. You're gonna have 8, 9 and 10 with Houston, Pittsburgh and Kansas City. So, I mean, it's going to be. It's going to be tight. You know, the Jags and Jackson, Chargers 7 and 4. I don't know, they're hanging in there. It's crazy when you look at like point differentials for teams. The Chiefs plus 76, you know, Texans plus 61. Now Bills plus 59, but you know, Chargers plus 8, Jags plus 17. Like winning games or winning games close. Like, comes down to a few of these down the stretch. Like it's, it's gonna matter. So we'll see. [00:35:55] Speaker A: And then the NFC Rams leading the. [00:35:59] Speaker C: The conference now probably Gonna be the 1 seed more than likely, but they're 1. Eagles, Bears 8 and 3, 2 and 3. Tampa Bay leading the South 6 and 5. Then you got the Seahawks at 8 and 3, the packers at 7, 3 and 1 and the Niners at 8 and 4. So you got the Lions at 7 and 4 and Cowboys 6 and I'm sorry, Cowboys 5 and 5. One in the Panthers 6 and 6 on the outside looking in. [00:36:29] Speaker A: So it is so tight in that. [00:36:31] Speaker C: Of see I would say it's more tight in the AFC I think nfc, Cowboys, Panthers probably don't got a shot. Their their shot is winning the division. Probably not a wild card and so really. [00:36:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:46] Speaker C: So really you're looking at. You probably have the Bears, Packers, Seahawks, Niners, Lions. One of those teams is not going to make the playoffs. [00:37:00] Speaker A: Do you guys think Bucks still in the division? [00:37:02] Speaker B: I'll say yes. [00:37:03] Speaker A: They're steal it away. [00:37:04] Speaker C: I don't the Panthers I mean the Bucks play a lot of bad teams but because they're going to play the Saints, the Cardinals and Saints coming up they have two. They have a game against the Falcons but they do have two games against the Panthers. So if the Panthers are going to win the division destiny a little bit in their hands that they're going to go head to head with with the Buccaneers down the stretch. But the Panthers got to play the Rams. Aaron's already betting his life savings on that game and they got to play the Seahawks. So you know they're playing to the top. Yeah a little bit tougher schedule. So I I with Buccaneers I think got it. I think the the Panthers hope's a little bit gone at this point. [00:37:46] Speaker B: Well I think it depends too on the health of Baker Mayfield. I mean I know it's a non throwing what AC joint sprain, shoulder. [00:37:55] Speaker A: But he couldn't throw the ball and. [00:37:57] Speaker B: Yeah, so he's got he's basically got the same injury that Joe Flacco has. But I think Flaccos is in his throwing arm. But yeah, I mean you still got to use your arm to I don't know. Yeah whenever he threw the ball there at the end. So that's worrisome. But Tampa they supposedly Bucky comes back next week. Mike Evans still coming to back down the stretch. So they've got some guys that got to get back on defense. They got to get us on Reddick, got to get Jamel Dean back. They have a lot more reinforcements that can help this team Tampa if they can get right but if Baker's not right I I have no faith Career backup Teddy Bridgewater getting in there and getting it done. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Final Comments on the Week 12 yeah. [00:38:43] Speaker C: I think just I think it's really the transition point into the playoffs right now as we went through, you know the tops of the NFC there's gonna be in the afc there'll be a lot of games down the stretch are going to mean for this playoff positioning who gets home field advantage. Aaron mentioned that Buffalo loss like at the beginning of the season. We were talking about, hey, Buffalo number one seed make the ASC go through Buffalo. That looks like it's completely gone for them now. They could, you know, likely going to be on the road if not for all their games. At least, you know, the AFC championship game. So still a lot to play for down the line. But you know, we, the. We did Rome. We have officially. We have eliminated teams here on Sources from the Sosa. Sources from the sofa can't even pronounce our podcast the Sosa, but one team officially mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. I don't know if you saw that room. [00:39:34] Speaker A: I did not know. [00:39:36] Speaker C: The New York Giants are officially eliminated. [00:39:40] Speaker A: Damn good team. [00:39:44] Speaker B: Hey, I've always liked the Giants. They just can't win games, man. Yeah, I'll be apologetic for him. I'd rather watch them any day than that damn Carolina team. I'll tell you that right now. [00:39:53] Speaker A: I do like the Giants team though. [00:39:55] Speaker B: They're fun. They're fun. Watch. As long as long as Russell Wilson ain't out there. Oh God, I, I'd rather. I'd rather sit there and watch a bunch of rocks. [00:40:04] Speaker A: That's a good job. Whoever takes that next year. I think that's a potential for a quick turnaround and to make some noise. Maybe not like automatic playoff birth or anything like that, but at least to be. [00:40:13] Speaker B: It's an. It's an interesting job. Neighbors, you get neighbors. [00:40:17] Speaker A: Defense are stacked. They got town on the offense. They got young quarterback scatter boo boo. If he comes back without any boo boos. Is he mentally there? You know what's up? [00:40:26] Speaker B: I mean, what's. What's up? If he was on what WWE Raw was that. Was he on? Yeah. [00:40:30] Speaker A: Why the was he on that? [00:40:31] Speaker C: Dude, he was on Raw, man. We talking about. He didn't, he didn't get. He didn't get super physical or anything. [00:40:37] Speaker A: With the guy enough for me to be worried. I'm not even like the team president there. I'd be like, nah, man, that's a, that's a no go. Get his ass out of there. [00:40:43] Speaker C: He wasn't even. He was just at ringside. Had other guys from the Giants and other guy. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Oh, Romy. It's all part of this. [00:40:54] Speaker A: That did not look part of the script. That, that looked ad libbed. And you could see him like moving in his little knee scooter. I don't know. I got nervous. [00:41:05] Speaker B: Yeah, he was, he was at the UFC event the week before as well. Or that weekend. [00:41:10] Speaker A: He was. Yeah, so I saw. [00:41:12] Speaker B: I saw him there. [00:41:14] Speaker A: All right, let. [00:41:15] Speaker C: Let the man live. All right. [00:41:16] Speaker A: The man live. Yeah. [00:41:18] Speaker C: I want to go back onto Aaron's rage about the Carolina Panthers, though. We started it. This. This. The podcast with. It was in the middle. You know, Aaron really just, you know, I sold him a stock that he is not happy about, apparently. [00:41:30] Speaker B: No, I'm not even getting a penny's worth on that damn stock. So I'm done. I'm done. This thing sucks. [00:41:40] Speaker A: You just saw for it gets a tough game. The Niners tough game. [00:41:45] Speaker B: I mean, you can pass on the Niners like anybody can pass on the Niners. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Not really. [00:41:50] Speaker B: Not really. Go for on the Baker Mayfield tape. Go throw on this Matt Stafford tape. [00:41:55] Speaker A: Well, not all of them are winners, man, but they play pretty. [00:41:57] Speaker B: I mean, you got a quarterback coming off 448 yards. I guess a defense, Atlanta, who's ran by the same guy. The same guy. Robert Sala, your mentor. He runs the same damn defense. [00:42:11] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. [00:42:12] Speaker B: He's gonna throw some wrinkles your way. Guess what? You got to throw some wrinkles, too. [00:42:16] Speaker A: I think we're ready to talk about college football. [00:42:18] Speaker B: I'm ready to be an offensive assistant analysis consultant with the Panthers. I could do a better job than that. Send me a place. [00:42:26] Speaker C: What is that the quality control guy? [00:42:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Give me a headset on. I'll buzz down to canelo. Hey, sheet three, play 2B. Let's run it. [00:42:37] Speaker A: You guys want to take a quick break or go straight into a college football? [00:42:41] Speaker C: I think Aaron needs a break. I need that. He's a. Hydrate a little bit. Calm himself down. [00:42:46] Speaker B: I think I need a real liquor, man. I might go get some stuff. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Actually do drink some liquor, man. You probably need it more than anybody. I. I had a crazy weekend already with liquor. I'm done. [00:42:56] Speaker C: He. He does need to calm down a little bit. So maybe Aaron go prep himself a drink. [00:43:01] Speaker B: I got more hot stuff. And we're going into college because I saw some story yesterday. I. I've already. I'm already hot about that, so that's probably what's led me to get a little hot coming into these segments. [00:43:11] Speaker A: All right, we'll be back with some college football after this. College football recap. Week 13 in the books. It is a blur now since we're kind of recapping this Monday night, but Oklahoma had a big win. They need that. Lots of pushover games for a lot of teams like Alabama, Nordheim just blowing people out of the water. You should have had Notre dame at the plus 70. Jason or 63 since that was not even close. [00:43:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I regretted not taking that one. I was like, that's a lot of points. I don't know if they really. Yeah, it was something like 33. [00:43:56] Speaker A: They easily covered. Trying to show off points. [00:43:58] Speaker B: Wait, how, how did, I didn't, I didn't watch the game. Obviously wasn't on in the. How do they go up 21 0? Because they said they were up 210 before they even had an offensive snap. [00:44:07] Speaker C: I'll be honest, I wasn't watching the game because I was in Vegas. So I, I just saw a Jeremiah love highlights. Like, they just handed him the ball and then he'd run to the end, so didn't know it touches him. [00:44:17] Speaker A: So. [00:44:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if that's true. Like, I guess the man had a kickoff return and a couple picks. Yeah, it was 350 in the first quarter. They already covered in the first quarter in that game. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Crazy, man. That's, that's crazy, dude. I'm trying to remember any other games in that one. I think. Yeah. Georgia Tech, big loss. Illinois, big loss to Wisconsin and then Oregon, big win. Shut up, everyone. That was up on USC's crotch all year round. [00:44:47] Speaker B: We called that on the show. Rome, Oregon. Why? Everybody else was on usc. We were on Oregon here. [00:44:54] Speaker A: I loved it. So always happy when USC loses three. [00:44:58] Speaker B: Touchdown favorite against UCLA this week in Rome. [00:45:01] Speaker A: Three? [00:45:02] Speaker B: Yeah. 21 1/2 early line cover, dude. [00:45:06] Speaker A: Like, when you see that to cover. [00:45:08] Speaker B: How about whether he beat 4814 at home against Washington? [00:45:12] Speaker A: I don't know, actually. I, I, I like my phone's not giving me updates anymore. [00:45:16] Speaker B: I think you turned it off, Rome. I think you got the same phone that I get for updates for my team. You just don't want to see it. I hit ignore Florida State. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Well, well, Florida State's keeping their coach. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I hit, I hit block. I pit block on that. [00:45:29] Speaker C: Was that what you're so mad about? [00:45:32] Speaker B: It's up there. [00:45:33] Speaker C: Okay. [00:45:34] Speaker A: Oh, so you're not happy that they're keeping Norville? [00:45:37] Speaker B: No, no. [00:45:38] Speaker C: He's been calling for his firing all year. [00:45:41] Speaker B: I said he should have been fired after Stanford. Rome. [00:45:43] Speaker A: Yeah, and now they're not because they are all in alignment. But did you hear how much? [00:45:47] Speaker B: Oh, no, it's because they don't have the money for the buyout. Well, that's why they're keeping them. [00:45:52] Speaker C: Do you know how much? [00:45:53] Speaker B: 72 million. [00:45:54] Speaker A: The whole staff? Yes. [00:45:55] Speaker B: Yes. [00:45:56] Speaker C: The, the other thing about not firing these guys too, because I think Penn State and a little bit LSU until we'll see what Lane Kiffin does here. But like, they fire these guys, but then, like, what's your backup plan? Who's the coach out here is going to do like a better job? And so, you know, I have one. Yeah. [00:46:14] Speaker B: I don't know if they do. What does. Well, let's just be honest. Florida State's way underachieved. You can almost get. You can get a coach who can do better than what they're doing right now, 100%. [00:46:24] Speaker A: Why are they doing so badly? They've had a great recruiting classes. They were just. Literally just a bad quarterback's leg away from competing in the national championship. That's just two years ago. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean, look at, look at the last time they won a road game was against Florida two years ago. They haven't won a road game since. [00:46:45] Speaker A: Dude, I saw that stat. I'm like, what? That would get anybody else fired? There was a funny. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Not when you're owed 72 million for your whole coaching staff. [00:46:53] Speaker A: I think it was like Kiffin and him and Sarkeesian and smart. Like, like they're all friends and I guess they have like an elite college, you know, football. [00:47:03] Speaker B: They're all. All owned by. What is it? Jimmy Saxon? Is that through their. [00:47:07] Speaker A: I don't know, but obviously I know. But they're like, oh, lose one game, whatever. Lose two games. People want you fired, but lose three games, you're definitely fired. You know, they're. Because they're talking about Franklin game Ax, but Norvell's man staying alive. [00:47:20] Speaker B: Well, Franklin was Ax. Going back to Jason's point, because he had. Here's the thing. And Norville has it as well, but Franklin's still a hot commodity in the buyout from Virginia Tech. Penn State only owes him 9 million. [00:47:33] Speaker C: Yep. Did you say. I. I didn't know a ton about this contract, but there was something about Franklin's buyout where he had to like, make a reasonable effort to find a comparable employment. Yeah, comparable employment. And then that's what people's consciousness. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Whatever. [00:47:53] Speaker C: He couldn't get different. I mean, because a lot of the. That was the first time I had heard that. Because a lot of these guys, like sit on this money and aren't like. [00:48:01] Speaker B: Like, Brian Kelly's going to. Yeah, but Brian Kelly, he's old, though. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Who was Kingsbury. [00:48:11] Speaker B: That. [00:48:13] Speaker A: It was really big a part of his. [00:48:14] Speaker B: Well, he got. He got like 16 million. But Kingsbury, the cars. [00:48:21] Speaker A: Employment. Yeah. But he didn't. And so everyone accused him. I think they went to court for that. Then he finally got the Washington job last year. But yeah, that was a big part of that contract too. It's pretty common, a lot of contracts. But I don't think it's. [00:48:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I haven't, I haven't really heard that. So that's interesting. Well, I knew, well we knew James Franklin was going to get a job. In fact, I'll be honest, he would. [00:48:40] Speaker A: Have made more money not playing, right? [00:48:43] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean James Franklin's what, 50 years old? Yeah, but James Franklin's like 50. Here's the funny thing is if Florida State had the money, James Franklin would be at Florida State. Because Jane Franklin, if you remember back going against Virginia Tech when they played him two weeks ago, Florida State a week and a half ago. Now the story came out that James Franklin, Virginia Tech basically gave James Franklin a hard deadline because the rumor was maybe Florida State was going to move off Norvell and Franklin was going to go there. [00:49:13] Speaker A: But like you mentioned Franklin at Virginia, he's from the area. [00:49:17] Speaker B: Virginia Techs, Virginia Tech and Florida State aren't comparable jobs. You'll take Florida State over Virginia Tech any day of the week. But like you said roman, it's a 72 million dollar buyout for the current staff. Then you got to invest in the new staff, another 60 plus million. So it's really 130 million dollar investment. So you just come out, you come out, you make a statement where you all lie. That'd be like us going off the air, restarting the show and agree. Oh yeah, the Carolina Panthers are a great effing football team. No they're not. Okay, not enough money is going to get me to say that they are. [00:49:49] Speaker A: I'm like you have, you haven't seen any quarter of them play. [00:49:51] Speaker B: Like no, I've watched them Rome. But I'm saying on just one single screen, that's them the only game. It's the first time because I always have like four games on one screen, two and three on another, you know, multi view. So this is the first time I've actually blown them up as a single game from start to finish. And I feel like I went from 2015 I vision to 2030 after watching it. Going to have to call my eye doctor and, and, and ask for my, and ask for a free exam. But going back to Florida State, guys, look, they don't have the money. I think the two reasons why, the main reason is the money. And then number two, Roy mentioned recruiting class. This is probably Mike Norville's best incoming recruiting class in the six, seven years he's been there. So obviously with early signing period coming December 3rd through the 5th, if you get rid of them now, you're going to lose, you know, at least half your commitments. So that means your recruiting class is basically botched. Another thing, when I look at it, Florida State's maybe the fifth best job available right now on the market. LSU is a better job. Florida is a better job. Auburn's a better job. Penn State's a better job. So do you really want to get in a bidding war of all these other programs or do you just throw more money like they say they're going to in an nil hope for the best? Because here's the thing. I don't know what, you know, they, they say they're going to make structural changes and we'll see how that all goes out. I mean, they made a lot of changes last year. I mean the team has improved from 2 and 10 to 5 and 6. They probably lose to Florida and finish 5 and 7. So it is an improvement if you look at it that way. But here's a good thing for Norvell. The ACC is a train wreck and they could easily come back next year and win it. [00:51:34] Speaker A: Yeah, five teams ranked right now. [00:51:36] Speaker B: It's a train wreck of a conference. [00:51:37] Speaker C: Rome, I mean, we thought that this year they come out in week one. You think they're back? It's going to be close and not in Rome. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Isn't it crazy how things change in Rome? [00:51:47] Speaker B: You asked me why Notre Dame's ahead of Alabama and I told you because that Florida State loss looks worse. It looks again worse this week that they continue to lose to NC State. [00:51:58] Speaker A: Who has like, who they lost to. I mean, I'm not surprised that they're loot losing these games. It's kind of. [00:52:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it doesn't make, it doesn't make any sense. [00:52:05] Speaker A: It doesn't make any sense at all. It's just like. It's like they're not even trying. [00:52:11] Speaker B: And you know Miami, I know Rome, you've been backing them. [00:52:14] Speaker A: Is normal a good coach. We should be asking that question. They obviously have no game plan. No, no, no schematics. They have no coaching in every position level. [00:52:24] Speaker B: Norville is kind of like in the weirdest spot, dude, because he's now, this is his sixth year. He's going to have four losing seasons. [00:52:31] Speaker A: In six and they got worse every year. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Well, it's weird. Well, like I said, Rome. It's weird because they. He's the only coach. He had the longest winning coaching streak of any coach over like the last 10 years when he won 19 in a row. That's better than Saban, Kirby Smart, all those guys because they all lost at least one game every year in the SEC. So he does have a 19 game win streak in there. And then we all, like you talked about they got stripped from the playoff when they should have been in the final four. I think they would have went on to win the title that year had they not gotten stripped. That's just how bad it is. [00:53:00] Speaker A: No chance. [00:53:01] Speaker B: But I think they would have beat Michigan. They matched up very well of Michigan. I mean, you see, you see, you see what the Rams defensive line looks like. It's just basically all Florida State guys on there, just dominating people. All right. [00:53:15] Speaker C: Oh, a little cleanup. Little cleanup. For the segment, I will say he. Aaron mentioned Jimmy Sexton, the agent. So in addition to Norvell, nick Saban, Kaylin DeBoer. Kirby Smart. So this guy gets people. [00:53:29] Speaker B: Fisher. [00:53:31] Speaker C: Yeah, so gets people paid. And so, yeah, I think to Aaron's. [00:53:35] Speaker B: And he's Lane Kiffin too, right? [00:53:37] Speaker C: I don't know if he is. [00:53:38] Speaker B: I think he is Lane Kiffin. [00:53:40] Speaker C: He might be. I mean there's a lot of ties to the Bama contingent there. So yeah, he gets people paid. So I'm sure beyond the, the money aspect of it, I think the reputational stuff that this guy holds a lot of weight with where coaches are going to be because you remember when the Bama opening came, it was Norvell and Kaylin DeBoer were the only logical successors because it was all Jimmy Sexton clients. So. [00:54:02] Speaker B: Yeah, and that's, that's what the bidding war was. And then Florida's Florida State had more money than Washington and Kellen DeBoer went there. The other name was, you know, Sarkeesian, but he wasn't leaving Texas. So I mean, look at what. I mean, what's Lane Kiffin gonna get? I heard he's getting offered what, 90 million by LSU. Is that the number? [00:54:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, ESPN headline is Lane Kiffin has a near 100 million dollar decision coming Saturday. He better win Friday. [00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah, he has not done well when his name's in the, in the room. [00:54:39] Speaker B: He'S not that good in the egg bowl. I mean that's not gonna be an easy game at Mississippi State. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Dude. It's been too much, too much noise around that. I just wish he would have just said like, no, I'm Staying at Ole Miss. He's making good money. They're gonna put more money into the program. [00:54:54] Speaker B: But do you think. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Much better. [00:54:57] Speaker B: Like, but do you think if he was gonna stay at Ole Miss, he would have already accepted? Or is he just trying to. I mean. I mean, how many more millions can you drag out of a university? Is that what it is? Or does he really, like, want to challenge himself somewhere else? [00:55:12] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing. You know, everyone says if he. If he's gonna make a change, he should do it now. But that's what. That's why people don't like Lane Kiffin either, because he always jumping around, jumping around from job to job. [00:55:21] Speaker B: And that's why I said he would never be. That's why I said he wouldn't be good for the NFL. Rom. He's perfect for college because you can. You can play this Mickey Mouse game. It's part of call. It's part of college athletics. [00:55:31] Speaker A: Parcels kind of did that. Jumped around to a degree. [00:55:34] Speaker C: But, yeah, I would. But I think for Elaine, you're talking about his one year in Tennessee and immediate usc. And I think USC was the job of jobs for him at this time because that's where he kind of came up in that Pete Carroll era. But. But, yeah, I mean, he went in the Nick Saban rehabilitation tour back in Alabama, and then, you know. But I think at this point, I think it's just. Ole Miss is just a tier below some of these other schools in the SEC and where it's at historically. Sources. Yeah, I think we just look at resources, where it's going to be like, I. I'm not. I mean, I don't know the financials and where you get these people. LSU's, you know, they're. LSU's a public university and they got all these drama with. With Kelly and then haggling over, like, who's in charge there, too. Like, I mean, I know they got resources there, but they got enough resources. If they fire Kelly because he's so bad, and then they can't. They can't really fire him, and they don't know where the money's coming from. And, like, are the resources really there there? Because LSU's been successful. They just, like, put, like, every five years, okay, we got the greatest team of all time, and then it's drama for the next five years. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Well, did. Did you hear about some of the conditions if Kiffin goes to lsu? There's some rumors saying that they would welcome Ed Aron on. [00:56:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I did see that. And now, and Ed, they work together at usc. [00:56:54] Speaker C: Yes. [00:56:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And Ed, I like Ed, so maybe that's enough to. [00:57:00] Speaker B: I mean, look, I like Ed as a coach and a person, but like Jason and I touched on before, he. He got a little too. He got a little too up on himself down in Baton Rouge. [00:57:10] Speaker A: He won a championship, bro. [00:57:12] Speaker B: Which is. Which is fine, but hard. [00:57:15] Speaker A: It's not a lot of those. [00:57:17] Speaker B: No, it is. It is very difficult. It is very difficult. And you got to give the man his props. And that's why LSU would say, hey, you're welcome back, just not as the head guy, but, like, Jason just touched on. LSU doesn't have the money, and they got rid of Brian Kelly. It basically went to the governor and said, hey, we don't have the money. But the governor hated Kelly and hated the direction. He just said, fire him. Florida State doesn't want to end up in the same boat as LSU because they don't have the money. The same. [00:57:43] Speaker A: I don't like it when a public institution is saying, like, this is on the tax dollars. I'm like, dude, we should never be using tax dollar. That word tax dollars is paying coaches this exorbitant amount of money doesn't matter, you know, is. That's just ridiculous. Like, that's just not good luck. Like LC to me, just kind of pegged down a few spots after that whole ordeal, and they're not paying Kelly, and all of a sudden, Kelly just got fired this past week. [00:58:05] Speaker B: Yes. Supposedly the clerk finally filed the paperwork. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Well, because. Because the law. Because the lawsuit. [00:58:13] Speaker C: Was that after they didn't let him come back for a senior night for his son, and his son was repping. Repping everything. Like. Like something happened to him. He's on the team, apparently. [00:58:24] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Is he like a long snapper? Is his son like, yeah, right. Or something. [00:58:29] Speaker C: So you walked out on senior night with, like, no parents and whatever like that. And so everyone was going out there. [00:58:36] Speaker B: That is. [00:58:36] Speaker A: That is kind of messed up. [00:58:37] Speaker B: I mean, I could see not letting Brian Kelly, but at least let the mom, the grandma or somebody come out. [00:58:42] Speaker A: I'd be pissed, actually. Yeah. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Well, I don't really talk to my. [00:58:46] Speaker B: Family, but you know what I would. [00:58:47] Speaker A: Say, look them to be there. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Well, I mean, if he's on the football team, then at least you like him. Yeah, to some degree. Yeah, I would. I would say, hey, look, I'm not going to show up, but I want an extra million bucks not to make a about it on X. [00:59:01] Speaker A: All right. Is there any pressing issues with college football this front this past week or. I, I know the new CFP playoff things come out tomorrow. I didn't really check up on the new rankings, but I'm assuming not much has changed. We had a couple big losses. Georgia Tech is definitely out. Like they totally up and chat the bed on that one. How do we do on the games of the week though? How we do it? [00:59:23] Speaker B: Yes, the week locks in. The week went 2 and 1. Nice. [00:59:28] Speaker A: Back on track too. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Back on track. [00:59:30] Speaker A: Back on track. [00:59:31] Speaker B: We. We hit. We hit byu. We hit Oklahoma. Talking about Florida. I don't know what happened to them. I mean, Tennessee hadn't won a game in the swamp in 20, what, 22, 23 years and they just laid it ass whipping on those guys. [00:59:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't like that one. [00:59:48] Speaker B: But that might be the worst game of the week in Florida versus Florida State, so do not touch that one, boys. It's a pick them and that's literally a pick them if you even want to watch that game. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Florida State has to win to be belt bullish. Well, I think, right? [00:59:59] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. But since Norville is going to be around, might as well win. I mean, there's no consequence if he wins or loses, so might as well get bowl eligible. [01:00:09] Speaker A: Might as well end up in the. [01:00:11] Speaker B: Penske Sun Bowl, El Paso against Nebraska. We'll go. That'll be a good one. Tiger. The Tiger bowl in El Paso. [01:00:20] Speaker A: I thought Nebraska was on the up this year, man. [01:00:23] Speaker B: What's up with the recruiting class in Nebraska? Nine commitments. That's bad. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Commitments, right? No, only nine guys committed and 60 commitments, right? [01:00:32] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:00:33] Speaker A: I mean, they're losing guys right now. [01:00:37] Speaker B: So maybe the money's dried up there. They paid Matt Rule. They got no more money for recruits. That's what happens. You start paying these coaches. [01:00:45] Speaker A: I'm tired of Nebraska just hiring like the next fancy guy just so he can do the same thing and just go 500, not change the thing. Yeah. Disgusting. Disgusting. [01:00:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean we'll do the college. We're gonna do the college preview. I mean, he got him to a bowl game, something they hadn't done in like nine years. [01:01:02] Speaker A: All right, so we have Thanksgiving this week. I don't know the schedule, when the lines come out, all that stuff. But you guys will. [01:01:08] Speaker B: Everything will be on Wednesday, Rome. So Wednesday I'll be at my. You guys want to record? We could do it. [01:01:15] Speaker A: Call Wednesday the big turkey day pod. We'll do it live. I don't think we can do it live, actually. [01:01:21] Speaker C: On our platform going doing Bill O'Reilly now. We'll do it live. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Kind of cool. [01:01:28] Speaker C: I, I think a lot to talk about probably Wednesday once we get these college football rankings because there, I think there is a lot of drama behind that. You mentioned the Georgia Tech loss, but Aaron's beloved ACC is going to throw this thing into the seventh circle because you, you're. Miami is on a crusade right now of the disrespect that they're receiving because they beat Notre Dame. But all else right now with Notre Dame winning out, Notre Dame's in, Miami's out. They finished with the exact same record and Miami wins head to head. But you're going to try to shove five SEC schools in this thing and Miami doesn't get the chance even for the ACC championship game to get the automatic ACC champion bid. So which means the ACC would have to get two teams for Miami to have a shot. And so the committee, you know, the comments about eye test versus on the field stuff and everything like that is, is going to be really interesting. And so I think as this, as this thing comes out, we got some head to heads going on this week, but I think there's going to be a lot of drama come out of Aaron's beloved ACC conference in the Hurricanes out of Miami. [01:02:36] Speaker A: I know what it is. The background is more prominent on a recording. So they've shranked out all the tiles. Yeah, that was never live right there. [01:02:45] Speaker B: Okay, thanks for catching that room after an hour recording. Appreciate your input on that. No, I mean going back to what Jason said, I mean Miami, they, I mean look for the them to get into the ACC title game, they have to have, they have to be. Here's the thing for Miami, they're playing Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh. We saw what Notre Dame did to these guys two weeks ago. Miami's literally got to win like 60 to 0. Like they literally have to win 60 to 0 and say look, we beat Notre Dame, we just beat the team. Notre Dame beat the out of them. We beat them 60 to nothing. We should get in. That's really their only case and chance. Unless SMU happens to lose, Virginia happens to lose, all these teams just happen to lose and Miami wins and sneaks into the ACC title game. It's unfortunate because Miami is the best team in the acc, but they're not going to likely get into the conference championship and their bad losses are going to keep them out even though they beat Notre Dame in the opening game of the year unless like I said, they win 60 to 0. And make a statement to the committee, like, you have to let us in. That's their only shot. [01:03:48] Speaker A: Well, it's unfortunate because, yeah, Pittsburgh, smu, Georgia Tech, they've all had some pretty big losses recently. They just kind of like sour the whole deal, so. [01:03:57] Speaker B: But tough like Jason has touched on. I agree. Mario, crystal ball. He's just good for losses. He's just good for losing games. Not showing up off a bye week. They lose to Louisville, who's now shit. [01:04:10] Speaker A: The bed, shows up more than Norvell. Well, yeah, I mean, he's winning that matchup. [01:04:16] Speaker B: Who isn't beating Norvell right now? I mean, Stanford beat them and then look at California. At least Cal has some balls to fire the coach after losing to Stanford. That's how bad Stanford is. [01:04:28] Speaker A: It cost him his job, dude. Yeah, we had some fires this week, dude. Cal just said, you're out of here. And I didn't even know Ron Rivera's the GM for Cal. [01:04:35] Speaker B: First of all, Ron Rivera shouldn't be the GM for anybody. I think Jason will agree with that. [01:04:40] Speaker A: Wasn't he with Denny, like turn the Carolina Panthers upside down? [01:04:45] Speaker B: Is he a Cal graduate? Is that where he's from? [01:04:48] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:04:49] Speaker B: I don't know. He's old, so I don't. You know, I. I don't know. But let's. I'm gonna look that up right now. [01:04:53] Speaker A: No. Yeah, they lost pretty badly to Stanford and they were heavy favorites and cost him his job. You're right. [01:05:00] Speaker B: And look, he's gotten some. Six. What? Six straight bowl games in the nine years there. I mean, he's done good at Cal. He's done good at Cal. [01:05:07] Speaker C: He was. Ron Rivera was an alma mater alumni of Cal. [01:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:13] Speaker B: He should not be a GM of your football program. I think Jason would agree with that. [01:05:17] Speaker C: Well, I don't know. The GM of Stanford over there, man. Just. He's, you know, one of us. During the middle of his interview. Yo, yelling ball. When the ball was out, you know, Good old Andrew Luck. [01:05:28] Speaker B: I like Andrew Luck there. I do. And I looked at. I mean, I don't know who's going to coach it. [01:05:33] Speaker A: Every time Aaron has gone out of his way to say how terrible Stanford is. They win the game. [01:05:38] Speaker B: Well, well, well. I will say this, Rome, there is part of true in that they did beat Cal. They did beat Florida State. Two teams I was high on early in the year. I did. I did say take Miami -30 and a half against them. They beat him by 35. So I have been right About Stanford sucks. They recovered. They didn't. Stafford didn't even have an offensive point in the first half of this game and led because they recovered two fumbles for. For scores, for touchdowns. That was their only points in the first half. [01:06:09] Speaker A: Dude, I'm sorry, man. Like, I. I just don't know. What conference is Stanford in? [01:06:13] Speaker B: The acc. [01:06:14] Speaker A: That's right. [01:06:15] Speaker B: Okay, so is Cal. [01:06:16] Speaker A: Stupid. [01:06:16] Speaker B: It doesn't make any sense. But yeah, remember, they were on the. They were on the outside looking. [01:06:21] Speaker A: Why are they playing each other? Okay, that. All right. Thanks for clarifying that. Stanford, 3 and 5, man. They stopped solid. [01:06:29] Speaker B: Guess what better record than Florida State. 2 and 6. Conference. [01:06:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:34] Speaker B: With a win over them because the. [01:06:36] Speaker A: Better than North Carolina at 2 and 5. Better than Virginia Tech. Franklin's new home. [01:06:43] Speaker B: Hey, Franklin was living it up, man. He was living it up there on the sidelines at Virginia Tech. Covered against Miami. He. [01:06:50] Speaker A: He. He was there. [01:06:51] Speaker B: Yeah, he was there. He was going around shaking fans and all around in the stadium. [01:06:58] Speaker A: He'll do fine. [01:06:59] Speaker B: Jay Franklin's gonna do good at Virginia Tech. [01:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:02] Speaker C: You know, Aaron, when you said Cal fired their head coach, I knew he wasn't the head coach, but part of me just want to say they fired Jeff Tedford. [01:07:09] Speaker B: Oh, I love Jeff Teffer, dude. [01:07:11] Speaker C: I just. I just feel like he's still the coach of Cal, you know, I love that. It was. I had to look it up while you guys are talking like it was 2012 is when he left Cal. [01:07:19] Speaker B: He's been, hey, where's Ted for Where's Tedford now? Because I know he was at Fresno State, but he had some health issues. Is he still coaching? [01:07:26] Speaker C: He's not. Last thing was to 2023 at Fresno State. [01:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I know he had some health issues, so he stepped away. But I've always liked Jeff. Teard at Cal with Rogers. Marshawn Lynch. He had some good teams at Cal. [01:07:38] Speaker A: He has a pretty good team. [01:07:39] Speaker B: Cal. Cal hasn't been good since Wilcox took over. And they got rid of them. [01:07:43] Speaker A: Yep. [01:07:44] Speaker C: They had Rogers. [01:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And Wilcox. You can look this up. But was he. I know he was at USC with Sarkeesian. I don't know if he was there with Kiffin as like his D corner, but I think he was. He was the defensive coordinator for Steve Sarkeesian at USC when he was the SC head coach. That's how Wilcox parlayed that into the Cal Berkeley job. [01:08:05] Speaker A: Interesting. [01:08:05] Speaker B: I like Wilcox. I think it's a bad fire by a cow. Bad. Higher. Hiring Ryan Rivera. They can hire us Three for half the price they're paying that guy. We could do a better job. All right, I think that's what I should. I think that's what I need to get into is just doing GM stuff, man. I'm tired of all these guys just getting gigs, not knowing they're doing basketball, football. I'm available for whatever, man. I mean, all these guys are.500. I mean, what are the Sacramento Kings doing? [01:08:36] Speaker A: Different numbers inside the yellow pad, though. They're gonna want some Excel files. You know what an Excel file is? [01:08:42] Speaker B: Look at, man. The yellow pad's hard and legal. Look, I already got the. I already gave you the answer to the Raiders problems. Sign George Pickens in the off season. That's step one. [01:08:51] Speaker A: Still, I should have kept him, dude. All right, I'll do it. For a college football. We're good, I think. [01:08:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we're good. I don't. I want to. I don't want to talk about how Nebraska got their ass kicked by Penn State. No need to talk about that, dude. [01:09:04] Speaker A: I didn't even. [01:09:05] Speaker B: What? [01:09:06] Speaker A: I didn't watch it. I was. I was preoccupied on Saturday. Just say that. [01:09:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll get into. I mean, I. We'll talk Wednesday, but previewing the games coming up. But, you know, we talk about all these playoff teams With Rome. I saw something on Fanduel with Michigan. They're saying if Michigan beats Ohio State, 90 chance they make the field. The playoff field. [01:09:28] Speaker A: Yep. [01:09:29] Speaker B: Yep. So I don't know. [01:09:31] Speaker A: Keep it tight. I. I don't know, man. Ohio State's so good, though. I'm actually worried, like, this might be the year. They've just finally returned the fair for all those, like, past, what, four or five years? [01:09:40] Speaker B: I think Michigan's gonna win again. [01:09:43] Speaker A: I would love it. [01:09:43] Speaker C: Notre Dame could be out if Michigan wins. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:46] Speaker A: Oh, dude, I would even love it even more. [01:09:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy, but we'll see. I mean, comes back to the old. Well, they lost it. What? Oklahoma. Sc. SC got beat by Notre Dame. Yeah. It becomes a lot interesting. [01:10:01] Speaker A: Yeah. But. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I already told you guys, I'm taking Michigan plus 10, 9, 8, 12, whatever they are this week. That's my 1 pick for the college contest. I like Michigan. [01:10:08] Speaker A: All right, so besides Norville keeping his job, what else kind of pissed you off before the pod today, besides you taking a big L tonight with the Panthers? [01:10:17] Speaker B: Well, I mean, like I said, Rome, I haven't watched the Panthers on the full screen. They eliminated me from week nine. The circus survivor had a Good run going there. So just watching that, I just. I think it all kind of correlated. The built up tension just came out like Norville, bad news Sunday watching this Panthers game, you know, having to live through another 5 and 7, 6 and 6 season with Florida State next year is not something looking forward to. Yeah, but hey, you know, I'll say this, you know we talked about them the early segment. I think Gus Mall's on. He's might move on from OC at Florida State. Why don't you bring in Chip Kelly. Let's see, let's see how good these two non good coaches are work together. Maybe that's a magic formula to go 12, 0 or no and 12. I don't know. [01:11:00] Speaker A: Chip Kelly would do well in Florida. Say that's kind of his. I think he would. That's a good. Why not for him actually. [01:11:05] Speaker B: Why not bring him back? [01:11:07] Speaker A: You always throw these names out of. [01:11:08] Speaker B: The air and like oh, that's not Rome. It's just people talk to me and Jason, the sources. We've got connections everywhere. You got a phone, you got a sofa. Hit us up. We get, you know, information comes in, comes out. [01:11:24] Speaker A: All right, catch our all Thanksgiving pod for college football and NFL. It's gonna be hard to push it out by Wednesday but sometime Wednesday, early Thursday, time for turkey day. I'll do it. Starts from the sofa. We are out.

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