NFL Preview Part 2: Breakdown and Predictions for the NFC

[00:00:05] Speaker A: Okay, sources from the sofa sports pod, part two. NFL breakdown. We did the AFC in the last hour segment. You can catch that now. We're gonna knock down the NFC where you guys want to start? [00:00:22] Speaker B: Let's get started. NFC north, man. I want to hear Jason on the Bears. Manda, all this hype. All this hype training for the Bears is. It's time to deliver now. [00:00:34] Speaker A: Nice. This might be another one of my favorite divisions. They're pretty loaded up and down. At least it's a lot of storylines. Lions, man. [00:00:48] Speaker B: Well, you said earlier that the AFC north was the best division. This is the best division in football right here. [00:00:56] Speaker A: You think so? [00:00:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Okay, go ahead. [00:00:59] Speaker B: See, north is the best division. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Expound on that. Expound on that. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Just from teams perspectives, talent standpoint, quarterbacks coming in, the hype train around everybody, man. I mean, I think when you look at the Bears, who amazingly have never had a quarterback for over 30 touchdowns, 4000 yards ever. Crazy. It's crazy, man. [00:01:25] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:01:26] Speaker B: That's crazy. That's insane. [00:01:28] Speaker C: You're taking, you're taking away all my takes because Caleb Williams is already the best quarterback in Berry's history. He has yet to take early season. Just to say I was a big Jake color. [00:01:39] Speaker B: I will agree with that. And he can retire today and I'd still put him number one. [00:01:43] Speaker A: I love Jake color, man, I like. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Jay Cutler too, mandy. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Jay Cutler is statistically, I think the Bears quarterback, best quarterback of all time. But I think stepping in right now, like, you know, Caleb is the prospect we've all been waiting for in Chicago. [00:01:57] Speaker A: So speaking of the Bears, real quick, I was really pissed that he didn't come back and play in a Super bowl. He lost me a lot of money that fucking year. And I've hated the Bears since then. [00:02:05] Speaker C: You talk about the, talk about Cutler. Yeah, well, the NSCG, that was the NSC championship game versus the packers. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Yeah. That was bullshit. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Well, you do know if the Cutler had won, he would have been taking on your Pittsburgh Steelers. I think that's why you wanted the Bears to win, so the Steelers could have won another Super Bowl. I think that's your dude. That's where you're leaning towards here. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Still should. I never want lost that anyways. But, yeah, that game still sticks in my head. I'm just like, how could you not going back into, what the fuck? [00:02:33] Speaker C: Couldn't plan on the leg, man. You know, he was just gonna be a liability out there. Then the end didn't matter. But that's, that's in the past. We're only focused on the future for the Chicago Bears right now because this is the next, you know, the next five year window of the bears. You know, could be one of the best windows and the best, you know, teams they put together here, you know, over the next couple of years. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Only five years, that's all you're giving. [00:02:57] Speaker C: I mean, you, you think from a five year window like this is, you know, I mentioned it before and I think if you listen to any, you know, sports podcast, they'll talk about the rookie quarterback contract. And, um, and this is, you know, it's hundred percent bias. I'm not going to act like Rome with the Steelers. I'm 100% biased when it comes to the Bears. But, like, the, the, what they've been able to surround Caleb with is, I think, the best situation a rookie quarterback and a number one all over quarterback can go to. I don't think that's an original take, but, I mean, I was having this argument with some friends before. Like, think back to a number one overall pick that got to a team that wasn't the worst team in the league. So you think you have to look back to the Ramsden when they took golf and they had to trade up to that. Even at that point, the Rams didn't have a great team all around it offensively. I think they had some defensive parts at that point from a great team. So from the Bears this season, you know, this is a team that went seven and ten last year. They had a top five defense back half of the year that was really coming on. They already got traded for the number one wide receiver and probably the greatest trade in NFL history. I don't know if you can argue Ryan polls fleecing the Carolina Panthers for that trade, you know, to get maybe the halt the haul that they've gotten for that trade that is still paying dividends even for next year's draft, that's. [00:04:09] Speaker A: The steal of the century. [00:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, you know, they've given, you know, you have DJ Moore there, you have Keenan Allen that we trade. It's probably going to be a one year flyer for Keenan. He's gone after the year, but, you know, he'll be going to free agency. And then you have roman doomsday. So you look at a top three wide receiver core that I would put up against anyone with the league at this point to have figures that good. So, I mean, I told Erin I can go for a half hour on the bears, but, you know, you put, you know, a consensus number one overall quarter all pick. I don't know if, you know, generational talent. They talk about is he the best prospect since Andrew luck or something like that. I think people had a lot of feelings about Trevor Lawrence. We talked about in the previous episode about too. But, you know, Caleb is the best quarterback in Bears history to this moment. Aaron already backed me up on that and I think the parts they surrounded him for this five year period until he gets paid, you know, they're going to be able to put a ton of talent around him and, you know, make him better. And then after that, and I don't, you know, I'm not going to say we're not going to crap out our five years, Rome, because we could be talking Caleb's whole career here. However, like then he'd be at that point in his career like any teams. We talked about Josh Allen, we talked about what homes have to do then it's about building guys from the ground up at that point because you're not going to have some of these, you know, these weapons that they're getting now. But from day one this year, you know, they've surrounded him with a ton of talent to be successful. It wasn't a half hour, Aaron, but that's a reset. [00:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah. So here's my thing about the Bears. They got like a lot of free agent acquisition, got Caleb Williams. I'm not sold on their head coach yet. I think he's done like an okay job. But if they make the playoffs, he's winning coach of the year. But to have the pressure on Caleb, they're at over eight and a half wins. I think that's pretty, pretty daunting. Granted, they did what, seven games last year, but I got them right at the eight win mark. This is tough division. [00:05:55] Speaker C: It's a tough division, but go ahead, Jason. I'm on this. I mean, there's one topic I'm going to talk about in this show. It's going to be Chicago sports. We're not going to talk about baseball here in the, for the next foreseeable future for my white, we're going to hold the white socks till another day, probably after they lose their 100th and 30th game or whatever. [00:06:15] Speaker B: The White Sox are going to lose more games than how long this podcast lasts, let's just put it that way. And we're already 60 plus minutes in. [00:06:22] Speaker C: They're going to give it a run for the money. But going back to the Bears, you know, we talked of a few teams in the AFC preview. As far as, you know, strength of schedule. The Bears got an unbelievable start to the season for Caleb where you're starting with Tennessee, one of the, one of the worst teams in the league. We talked through week two in Houston is probably their biggest test early in the first month. Then they're, you know, then they're going to play at Indianapolis. They play the Rams at home. They play Carolina. So Carolina is the gift that keeps on giving. You play Jacksonville and then they play at the bye week and then at Washington. So a first six, seven games, this is a team that's, they could be four and three, they could be five and two coming out of the gates and then, you know, you're going to get a New England at a certain point and this is all before you even play some of the inner division games from a division that Aaron's talking about. That's very good. I think with Detroit, Green Bay, obviously the top two teams in division last year, Minnesota, I think is taking huge steps back. Who they start at quarterback? Aaron, I don't even know at this point. JJ McCarthy's out. [00:07:23] Speaker B: They start Sam Darnold. [00:07:25] Speaker C: They got Sam Darnold. Okay, so we got, we got the Sam Darnold experiment. I think Minnesota is going to be, you know, the bottom of the division. So it's a winnable game. So I think it was lines up for the Bears play a last play schedule early on. They're going to have a lot of success and then where can they ride with it? I think I. A lot of pressure on Caleb, but I think he's got the weapons for it and I think the defense could be, you know, the, the part of the equation that keeps them in the games and makes these much more manageable for Caleb to win. I don't think they're going to be shootouts. I think they got a really great secondary, a ton of talent there with Jalen Johnson and a couple other good quarters like Kyler Gordon. So I think the defense is what speaks to pass rush could be the maybe question mark, but with Montez sweat, I think they get to the passer. They're looking to upgrade the other side of the ball, but I think there's some good guys there. So, I mean, that's my argument. It's, you know, I think a lot of people, if you ask them, they're going to pick the Bears to finish third besides behind the packers and Lions. I think the Lions are the consensus first team in this division probably if you ask most people, but I think the Bears easily. [00:08:26] Speaker A: Most people, Jason, most people. [00:08:29] Speaker C: But I think the Bears give the Packers a run for the money for the second playoff spot and I think go through that, the Bears, 100% of the playoffs. [00:08:37] Speaker A: 100 fucking percent. [00:08:39] Speaker C: They're in there in the playoffs. I heard the best team in the best division in the NFC. I think this is division that could potentially send three teams, you know, to the playoffs with the Lions, packers and Bears. The Bears beat the Lions last year without Caleb Williams. They did so. [00:08:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I, to elaborate on what Jason said, kayla Williams is going into a situation where the number one pick in a draft at quarterback, first year player has the most talent, I think ever surrounding him. Given the skilled players they have. Obviously with the players they drafted. We didn't even mention swift at running back who they brought into a talented guy. They've got a good tight end and what, connect to so called commit. Yeah. I mean, the Bears are loaded. Their offensive line isn't bad. They got better as the season went on. I think Caleb Williams is in a great situation there. The Bears, I think the Bears, what was their over under what, seven and a half wins? Eight and a half where they. [00:09:39] Speaker A: And a half. Yeah. [00:09:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm high on the Bears. I agree with Jason. I think defensively they're going to be really good. They got things together. I mean, and that was with Eber Freeze calling the defense next last year. I believe they got their D corner or new D corner in there now, but they got talent at backer corner, safety, d line. They can get after the quarterback. They're sound. They're fundamentally, I think their problem last year was just fields turning the ball over too much and not making enough big plays. And now they got all the big playmakers in there with Rome coming over, DJ Moore, Swift, tight ends. This team is loaded. If they can put it all together and Caleb Williams can be what we think he can be and what it's possible could be. I don't know if it's all going to click year one, but I think the Bears are a team, given their schedule, given what's going on there, they're a dangerous team. You're not going to want to see them. And I think week one, I think they're going to. I think they're going to come out rolling. Week one, I think they're just going to roll the Titans. I think they're going to roll them. Four points. I think that's, that's low. I'm all over the Bears laying the four. [00:10:50] Speaker A: You guys bring us some pretty good points. Eight and a half. I think kind of high. And the first six games I kind of got them at three and three. You got the winning winnable games at Tennessee, possibly Indiana, and you got Carolina, Jacksonville's international game. They got a few like tricky things in their schedule, like a few Thursday games. So I might be like a little weird for the first year. Caleb Williams and then the back half of the schedule, they got some playoff contenders in there. I really can't see them getting past eight games. So I got the under on the eight and a half for Chicago, but I think they're going to be a really competitive eight win. [00:11:21] Speaker B: I'll take the over. I'll take the over. [00:11:23] Speaker A: You guys got both over on that. [00:11:25] Speaker C: I think both over and I'll bring it back. You know, I'm, I don't agree with Rome's point here, but I think one question mark for the Bears is their head coach. I think it is on either flu right now because, you know, they haven't been overly successful in his first two years at the helm. I think last year's second half really helped but, you know, because it really came in strong in the second half of the season, finishing at seven and ten. But this is a team that lines up to perform. So even with the rookie quarterback, the expectations I think are a winning season. You know, whether, you know, it has to be a playoff team for them to make the decision on that. But it's going to have to be a winning one because you've put a lot into this and this is a team built to win. And if he can't get it across the finish line, it's an interesting thing. Used to mention Rome. He could be coach of the year. I think some of the odds have him like top two, three favorites to win. But it could be a situation. This guy could be coach of the year or he could be fired. Like it could go, it could go either way because if they don't turn it around and they're below Minnesota in the division, if they finish last or if it's a losing season and they finish third, like you'd have serious questions because there'd be a lot of, there'd be a lot of interest from head coaches around the league that potentially available that would want to come coach this team and could there be an upgrade? Do you watch hard knocks? I know you guys didn't watch hard. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Knocks, but it seems calling us out. [00:12:44] Speaker C: But I think, you know, you know, the general manager Ryan Poles, I think I think it does show his, his confidence in Eber flu. You know, that could be a facade for the cameras, too. You never know. But I think he's been very positive with either flu on the direction that they've, he's built in the culture of that team and where it's been at. I think second year was better, but I think the expectations are high and I think they're very high for the city of Chicago, too, because, well, the city of Chicago's got nothing but loser sport teams right now. This is the lone bright spot that we, that the city of Chicago has on their radar. And I think the expectations are super high for ever. [00:13:19] Speaker A: This is a little too high. And plus, he grew out his beer, right? So it's good for like one win. [00:13:24] Speaker C: Listen, I mean, I mean, there's no one who's improved his stock more from a haircut and beard than Matt Ebert Blues. I think if you look on Twitter like, you know, this guy, crazy over gone crazy, man, he's a whole new guy because he got a beard and a haircut. [00:13:37] Speaker B: So, I mean, I'm hoping that beard and everything works. I. They lose week one, I think he's got to shave it off and scrap that and get back. [00:13:44] Speaker C: No, no. [00:13:46] Speaker B: You know, I think, I think that's kind of fool's gold. I think Eber Fuse is going to do fine. I think. [00:13:53] Speaker A: I think eight wins keeps his job because there would be a competitive eight wins, but I don't think they'd really need to make the playoffs this year. The save his job. [00:14:00] Speaker B: I think they have to go into week 18 with the playoffs on the line. I think if they're eliminated, if they're eliminated by week 1516, he'll get canned. I think he was on the verge of getting canned until that defense kind of took off and like, they got hot and they got, they made that trade, I think, for sweat and other players and kind of just elevated their team. Now they got Rome wideout, swift. [00:14:23] Speaker A: I don't think they'll be eliminated yet because, you know, after week twelve, they got Minnesota. So they have like a pretty decent record, at least 500. But then they got at Detroit, at SF, they got another winnable game at Minnesota, then Detroit, Seattle. I think Seattle is gonna be really good, but we'll get to that later on. And then Green Bay. So it's a pretty tough little stretch. [00:14:41] Speaker B: I mean, look at the division's tough. If they can go, I mean, three and three, four and two, I think is good for the Bears in that division. When your home games win a game at Minnesota, you're good. You know, I don't think anybody expects him. I mean, I don't know when's the last time the Bears actually went into Green Bay and won. And I think they match up well with Detroit, too. I mean, we'll get into what we think are gonna happen in the division. But I, listening to jason here, I like the Bears as he's a unofficial. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Spoke person for the Bears, representing Bears fans everywhere. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:17] Speaker C: Just so there, there is a reason to be happy about this team. There hasn't been for a very long time. I think it's set up to be the best it can be. And yes, I will be unabashedly the Bears spokesperson for this, you know, for the entire season. So. Although if they lose week one, everyone's been warning me it's just going to be all downhill because it's, it's my Sunday night feelings. I either love football or hate football. So the Bears will dictate my mood for an entire week. But I think this is the most positive coming into the season. You know, there's a lot of great twitter stuff out there on, you know, the, the Bears hierarchy and greatest teams of all time is the 1985 Bears and the 2024 preseason Bears who went four and o and undefeated. So you know that. Oh, man. I mean, how good is this team? They haven't lost yet this year. [00:16:02] Speaker A: They haven't lost yet. I guess so. Let's talk about the rest of the division then. [00:16:06] Speaker B: They tie with the Texans. Wasn't that a game of tie when it got suspended? [00:16:10] Speaker C: Nah, they were up. They won. [00:16:12] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:13] Speaker C: They're up 20, 117. Man. [00:16:17] Speaker A: So you got the Vikings. I can't really get like a strong read in them. I think the over under is either seven and a half or six and a half. I could have sworn to a six and a half about a week ago. Obviously, they lost their rookie quarterback. They've had a lot of offseason drama with injuries, people going out. The Brian Flores drama has been kind of weird as well. They've been looking kind of shaky in preseason. I got them under six and a half, last in the division. [00:16:39] Speaker B: I think Minnesota is going to be actually competitive. I don't know how good they're going to be. They got like a brutal, brutal stretch to the schedule to start. Brian Flores had that defense playing at a high level last year. I think they're going to continue to play at a high level. The question is quarterback, can Sam Darnold manage that team? He's got playmakers. [00:16:58] Speaker A: Well, the plus side is he did spend a year in San Francisco finally got a chance to taste like a winning organization. Saw how they prepare for games. Some people are kind of up on him. He might be able to bring that up and kind of turn his career around because he still has all that talent. [00:17:11] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I'm looking at their, I'm looking at their schedule. They start with the Giants at New York. That's a win for me. But then they got the Niners, Texans, Packers, Jets, Lions, Rams. That's their first basic seven games right there. So you could be looking at a team that's going to be one in six, maybe two and five. Maybe two and five. [00:17:34] Speaker A: So it's, the second half ain't much better. [00:17:37] Speaker B: No. I mean, their schedule is going to. [00:17:39] Speaker A: Be outside of Arizona. [00:17:40] Speaker B: Yeah, their schedule is tough. I think they're going to be competitive. They're going to be tough. [00:17:44] Speaker A: I think that they're running for one of the worst records in football. [00:17:49] Speaker B: I think probably, I think they're probably a bottom ten team in the NFL. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Right now despite them having talent on that team. It's kind of weird. [00:17:56] Speaker B: And I like their coaching staff. [00:17:59] Speaker C: Yeah. I think they have a good, I think they have a good coaching staff. I think quarterback, I mean, it's, I want to, I want to say it's similar to our Raiders conversation in the AFC thing. Like, they don't have a number one quarterback. You know, they got weapons on the outside. They got some good pieces on defense, you know, and they're going to be in games, but, you know, is their quarterback going to be the difference maker? It's a thing in the NFL, man, like the journeyman quarterback can win you a couple. They, they can win you a couple games, but, but are they going to get you into the playoffs or, you know, give you enough, you know, wins to make a run generally? Not like maybe Joe Flacco last year is maybe the lone example of just pulling somebody off the street that could do it. But I think you're looking. [00:18:37] Speaker B: But he's a Super bowl champion, so, I mean, that Sam, Sam Darnold, man, Sam Darnold's highlight in the National Football League is going up against Bill Belichick's defense. And seeing ghost, that's his highlight. Seeing ghost on a Monday night against the New England Patriots. That's what Sam Darnold's most famous for in the NFL right now. So until he can change that narrative there, to me, not a team that can compete at a level to even win the division, let alone be a serious playoff contender right now, do you. [00:19:08] Speaker A: Guys got it over or under six and a half? [00:19:10] Speaker B: Under. [00:19:11] Speaker A: Under. So competitive, but under six and a half. Got it. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Keep them in games. [00:19:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it'd be the under, but I think it's gonna be right around that. I don't know. I don't know if I'd bet that. No, I mean, because if you look at, if you look at the Bears a year ago, I'm sorry, bringing it back to the Bears, but you know, they were pretty, they're pretty dumpster fire the entire year where they walk out seven and ten last year because they defense kept them in games and they won some games they maybe shouldn't have. I mean this could be a team right here. You know, hey, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Aaron Jones have a few big games on offense and you know, bailout Darnold, you know, hey, they're going to stay in and win some games. [00:19:45] Speaker A: So this NFL. [00:19:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:47] Speaker A: So I think anyway, anything, anything can happen. [00:19:50] Speaker C: But to Aaron said, best division in football. I think this, like I said, this division probably puts three teams in the playoffs. But I mean if this would be one team looking out but be competitive. [00:19:59] Speaker A: Three teams in the playoffs. I like that. You want to put money on that? [00:20:03] Speaker C: Do I want to put with you? [00:20:05] Speaker A: No, no, no. Just, just in general. Yeah. Is that a lock? [00:20:10] Speaker C: I think it's a lock. I mean, I, I mean, we'll get the rest of the NFC, but I mean, I'm sure everyone else is going to be talking about some junk coming out of the NFC east again, only for the Cowboys to have us hot rally season and falter and the Eagles, you know, be up and down. So. [00:20:23] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, let's talk about the creep, the crop. Then we got the packers kind of surprised everyone last year. They went seven and three down the stretch. They upgraded a safety. They have a new defensive coordinator which I was kind of shaky last year. They should be a lot healthier that a lot of injuries in the first half of last year. They got a really nice wide receiver core and love got that big contract for only playing ten games. You know, it's pretty impressive. They're over under is nine and a half. A lot of people are picking them to go deep in the playoffs and possibly overtaking the Lions. Lions are at a ten and a half over under. I think the Lions are better than last year. They got porter healthy. They got some solid signings and some nice draft picks. Again. They just been killing it in the offseason for the past what, three or four seasons. Aaron, all their games are indoor. They got two cold weather games won, the top offensive lines a solid quarterback. I think they repeat what they did last year, maybe even better. [00:21:22] Speaker B: It's an interesting division, like we said, I think it is the best division in football, but it's a division where I think Packers, Lions and Bears all got better from last year. I think the only team right now that's probably, like we mentioned, stagnant or about where they were last year based off what they have at quarterback is the Vikings. Look at the Lions were hungry. They hadn't been in the playoffs since what, 92? They kind of had that chip on their shoulder where everybody was, you know, what was their famous line? Their coach said, we're going to, you know, bite your kneecap off. And that's kind of the attitude they played with. They're not, the Lions aren't sneaking up on anybody now, right? Everybody now knows that. The Lions aren't no joke. They're for real. They got talent on both sides of the ball and teams are going to be out there to give them their best shot. So the Lions, you know, they've, they're a sexy pick to win the NFC north and I think they're, they're going to be in the mix to do it there. They've got, you know, Ben Johnson coming back, all their coordinators. You know, it's rare that you have a team that makes a deep run like that and none of them gets a head coaching job or they turn them down. [00:22:27] Speaker A: It was amazing. [00:22:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So this team is all in to win again, but we've, we've seen it so many times where team gets to that mountaintop and almost gets over that the next year. Like, they just, they don't have it right. An injury here, an injury there, you know, schedule is a lot tougher. They just can't get over the hump and get going. I think the Lions, talent wise are going to be there, but I think it's just going to be a lot more difficult for them to get over that hump because everybody now in the NFC knows who the Lions are. They're going to be more prepared for him. They're not, they're not going to be sneaking up on anybody anymore like they have been. These aren't the same lines of old. [00:23:05] Speaker C: I don't think they're sneaking up on anyone, but I think we, you know, having a scheduled conversation with them. Similar to the Bears, they're playing at AFC south. We're playing NFC west into it a certain degree. I think there's a ton of winnable games for them in the first month, you know, Rams, Buccaneers, Cardinals, Seahawks, you know, before they get to a really challenging game in Dallas after their bye week on week six, and then come in with a Minnesota team that's probably the bottom of their division, like we talked about in Tennessee. So, like, they get to the first half of the season where they can put together a pretty good record. I think Aaron mentioned Ben Johnson. You know, typically when you have the hot offensive coordinator is going to be the next prodigy head coach. He's already gone. He decides to stay. He would have been a guy. As a Bears fan, I wanted an offensive guy to come and, you know, bring Caleb Williams along, I think if that'd be nice. Yeah, I mean, I was. That's what I was, you know, thinking. That would have been a thing if they fired ever fluz. But I think to that point, you, you're keeping a lot of this core intact. I think one thing that, as I watched, you know, Lions games last year, the one thing that I think they may be underutilized was that, like, you look in the running game and how much they use Gibbs, you know, doing a lot of split between Gibbs and David Montgomery. I think Gibbs is a guy. I think Gibbs is a guy. You need to feed the ball much more in this year to be much more of a playmaker on the offense because I think he's the number one back. I think David Montgomery used to grind and pound up in the middle for some, you know, for some, you know, heavy yards that were going to just move the line of scrimmage. But Gibbs is a playmaker, and I think the more you get him in the ball in open space, you know, that's a real matchup problem for them. And then, you know, they got St. Brown on the outside who's obviously going to be, you know, their number one guy. But that, to me, watching Lions games last year, I think Gibbs was the underutilized portion of the offense that could really be take the next step forward this year to make them even more dangerous offensively. [00:24:53] Speaker A: Nice take, man. I like it. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah, Gibbs is ultra talented. I just worry about his size, his durability. Billy, take the tough hits. To me, he gets a kind of, I think he, he got hurt in camp. I don't know if it was a calf or hamstring, so they kind of easing him in, but yeah, gives you get him the ball in open space. Probably the most dangerous guy in that division, let alone maybe in the National Football League out in space. But I want to ask Jason a question. He talked about wanting an offensive coach to come in and work of Caleb Williams. Ben Johnson's out there. Would you sacrifice a bad season by the Bears and Matt refuse to get a guy like Ben Johnson to come in and coach Caleb Williams in the Bears? [00:25:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Easy. That's easy. [00:25:39] Speaker B: Let me ask you this. Would you take a playoffs and that's just, you get to the playoffs are the team tanks and Ben Johnson's available? Because I think Ben Johnson is going to get a coaching gig. I don't think it's going to be the Bears, but I think there's another team that's going to get them another quarterback that's going to benefit that you won't like. But yeah, I want to hear Jason's thoughts as the unofficial spokesperson for the Chicago Bears. [00:26:03] Speaker C: I'm going to say no, Aaron, I can't, I can't experience another losing season right now. I need, I need a winning season. I think last year was the time to make the move because I think, I think we're the man. We're talking a lot about the Bears, but I think where the Bears have. [00:26:18] Speaker B: 30 minutes on a man, you wanted. [00:26:20] Speaker C: 30 minutes and we're already almost 30 minutes in and we majority of them Bears. But I think where the Bears have gotten this wrong, a ton has been they have gotten a head coach and then a quarterback after that and they've never had that pairing kind of come in together so that we're like the new head coach never got to choose the quarterback the Bears already had in the hopper. So Iberfloos was there, gets to bring Williams in. Prior to that, though, Iberfluss inherited Justin Fields. Prior to that Mitz Trubisky had inherited by the coach prior and on and on. So they're always like one year off where they brought in Matt Nagy, but Trubisky was already there having. So they're always one year off of it. It's not like, hey, new coach comes in with the quarterback. This is the pairing for the future. It's not an original take by me. It's out there. But they've always, they've done that for Trubisky. They did that for Fields. And so that's the doing it again with Caleb Williams. So if Eber flukes doesn't have the big year now, again we're going through. Is it another, you know, offensive person that changes the coordinator taking another step back? So to answer your question, Aaron, no, I think I want them to win. I think Eber fluz has enough on the defensive side. I think Shane Waldron coming over to from the Seahawks last year is the right offensive guy to bring us forward to know as much as I do like Ben Johnson, I think if they're going to make that move, that was the move they needed to make last year and they didn't do it and I think it's too late. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Surprise. They didn't. All right, so, yeah, I mean, to. [00:27:44] Speaker B: Elaborate on that, I mean, yeah, so, I mean, usually when a coach gets a new quarterback, usually gets three seasons of them, even doesn't have three years, he may just have this one. So, I mean, he's in a tough situation where it's not like, hey, let's, let's fill out the first year, going to the second year and see what strides we make. He, he's got a win now. And I think Chicago, like Jason mentioned, like they want to win now. Anything less than above 500 and a playoff run or in the playoffs. I think Matty refuse is going to get fired. [00:28:15] Speaker C: Yep. I think back to Ben Johnson, though. Like, I think he's done an outstanding job. I think, I think he's the consensus he's going to be the top name on the board for a job of his picking. I think for him last year in the offseason, I think, hey, he gets, he gets almost choose which job he wants. So is it an attractive position, you know, for him to go in because he's such a hot name in the market right now where a lot of teams are going to want the next, you know, the next hockey young coordinator that really puts offensive on the board. And I think that's where, you know, a lot of the owners and stuff. Look, I honestly think, though, the Bears aren't a team that looks for that, which is why even more so, even if they have the head coaching vacancy, they probably don't go there. They're going to get somebody that, you know, we don't want. So we'll stick with it. We'll, we'll ride with Ibrahus for now, but check back in week nine and see how I feel about that. [00:28:58] Speaker A: Ride or die, baby. Ride or die. So Lions winning division, everybody. [00:29:05] Speaker B: No, no. [00:29:07] Speaker A: Who do you got? Oh, that's right, Jason, let Aaron take it from here. Who do you got? Winning the division. [00:29:12] Speaker B: Packers winning the division. [00:29:14] Speaker A: And what else are the packers doing, Aaron? [00:29:16] Speaker B: We'll get to that later. I've got the packers winning the division. I think they're over under nine and a half. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Nine and a half. [00:29:23] Speaker B: I love that man. Bet it hard. Bet it hard, bet it big. Yeah. I like the packers, man. I think if love continues, I mean this is based off love continuing to progress and get better. Like we saw towards the second half of last year, he's got the weapons. I think Matt Laferr is one of the best offensive minds, best coaches out there. The game plans he puts together, underrated coach. Everybody was talking about how, you know, it was Aaron Rogers, Aaron Rodgers is. And that Matt Lefebvre wasn't that great of a coach. And then he turns Jordan Love, who's, let's be realistic was a project. Despite being a first round pick, he was a project. And if you're a Patriots fan, you're hoping like Drake may can actually turn into what kind of like Jordan Love has. I don't think he's years, but yeah, that's, that's kind of what you're kind of looking for. But I mean I, Jordan love, I think he can with the talent. They've got like four wide receivers, decent tight end Josh Jacobs. We didn't even mention him. They brought in as Jason knows. Green Bay's always got a solid offensive line. That's one thing they do good offensive line, offensive lineman, you know, they, they give up maybe half a sack a game on average over the last whatever decade. It seems like Aaron Rogers maybe gets sacked twelve times a year. I've got the packers with the new defensive coordinator coming in. That's kind of been Kareem Bay's downfall. Big pickup a while. I mean, everybody talks about Aaron Rodgers not being able to win the big games, but his defense ranked in the bottom half of the league almost every one of those years. Now you got a coach coming over from BC that was a Boston college head coach focused on the defense buddies of Matt LA for. I think it's going to help that team out a lot and I think the packers are going to win the division. [00:31:05] Speaker A: You know, Aaron Rodgers did play like shit in the playoffs, but okay, how many inches of Aaron Rodders Dick do you have you got? [00:31:14] Speaker B: You gotta answer that one, man. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Fucking. That's a crazy take. All right. You got packers winning the division. Lions making the playoffs, wild card. [00:31:25] Speaker B: I got off the Lions second, followed by the Bears. In fact, they, they could probably split in division and then whatever the tiebreakers come up with. I think the Lions and Bears are kind of one a, one b or two a two b in that division followed by the Vikings. [00:31:41] Speaker A: What? Okay, Jason. [00:31:46] Speaker C: I think the Lions win the division. [00:31:50] Speaker A: Over ten. [00:31:52] Speaker C: Over ten and a half. Yes, I will disagree with Aaron. I think the Bears finish second the division. I think the packers are third. I think all three make the playoffs. As I said before, I think it'll be tight between the Bears and Packers. Aaron mentioned it. Yeah. I don't know the last time the Bears beat the packers, man. It could have been the last time. We recorded this 18 years ago. I'm not sure. [00:32:17] Speaker B: Well, between now and then, I know Aaron Rodgers. I know Aaron Rodgers owns the Bears. That's about all I know. [00:32:22] Speaker C: It's a fact. You can't, you can't do it. The, the Bears haven't been successful against the packers since they fired Lovey Smith. Lovey Smith came and won the press conference, you know, in, you know, 2004. Whatever it was saying, like, like his thing was, you beat the Green Bay packers. He's the last Bears head coach to come out and Opie Press say that. And he was successful against the packers. The most successful Bears coach in a while. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Lovey Smith was happy with two and 14 season. If those two wins were against the Green Bay packers, that 100%. That was 100%. [00:32:50] Speaker C: And he took the Bears to the Super bowl. Even, even with that. So I think that's the last time there was a run. Even at that. I think the Bears are about 500 against the packers. We have to look that up. But I do think this is a year where the Bears are, you know, can, can take one and split with the packers, can probably split with the Lions, you know, take both against the Vikings. I think the advantages Aaron's talk about it's a winnable. It's a deep division three really good teams. And the Vikings, you know, who could be, could be, could be bad, but also could be good like we talked about. But I think, I think the Bears finished second. It'll be what these teams do against what when they play the AFC south, when they play some of those out of, you know, other conference games like those might be the deciding breakers if they split a bunch of games within division. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Okay, how you got it going, Roman? How do you got the division going? [00:33:41] Speaker A: I got the Lions winning, doing like another twelve win campaign. I will reveal the rest of it later on. [00:33:50] Speaker B: Okay, interesting. So you're revamping it. You're taking notes and revamping and recalculating right now. I'll take that as well. [00:33:58] Speaker A: No, I think the bears are gonna be competitive by two. Got them under eight and a half. I think Averse keeps his job, but packers get the wild card if he's. [00:34:06] Speaker C: Under eight and a half. He's not keeping his job, but move on to the next division. [00:34:11] Speaker A: I want to do south before we hit the west. Just kind of want to end on a sour note on the south. I think they're just, it's just disgusting. What do you guys. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, we can run through the south pretty quick. [00:34:24] Speaker A: There are some people that think that this is the worst division of football, that they're going to win the least amount of games in total. You have the Falcons nine and a half over under bucks or seven and a half over under. Saints are seven and a half over under. Panthers are set at five and a half wins. I everyone's off on the bucks. Everyone thinks that they overachieved last year. I think they're going to kind of repeat some of that success. And I actually have them possibly winning the division again with the winning record. So I got the over on the seven and a half. They do have a tougher schedule, but then you have the Falcons. Pennix, you know, this guy's ready to go. They have no first round picks playing this year, so they ready to go. [00:35:08] Speaker C: He's not even going to start. [00:35:09] Speaker A: I know. [00:35:10] Speaker B: Well, you know, he's ready to play. [00:35:12] Speaker C: He's ready to play, but he's not going to. [00:35:15] Speaker A: He's already 30. You know, he has a lot of experience. He was in college for ten years. Cousins. I don't know how he's going to look coming back from a, from that injury. I know they're favorite to win the division. Nine and a half I think is pretty generous. I don't even know what the record is. Last year. [00:35:30] Speaker B: I want to say they went seven and ten, maybe eight and nine. [00:35:34] Speaker A: I mean, seven and ten. Yeah, they did bucks one at nine and eight. Oh, shit. [00:35:39] Speaker B: I mean, this is a division where I think nine wins probably wins you division. [00:35:43] Speaker A: I think so. [00:35:44] Speaker B: I mean, I like, I like what Tampa's doing. I like them bringing it back. I like him bringing back Baker Mayfield. Obviously they lost their OC to the head coach there in Carolina, so we'll see how that works for them. But Todd Bowles, they've always got a good defense. Interesting week one matchup of Washington. That's going to be a really, really interesting game with Jaden Daniels. See how he kind of schemes up stuff, blitzes and I, stuff like that. Carolina's Carolina between them and New England, that's probably the pick for who's going to have the worst record. You could probably throw the Tennessee Titans in there as well. [00:36:19] Speaker C: Do the Bears have their first overall pick again this year. [00:36:21] Speaker B: No, the Bears can make that trade. I mean, if I was a GM, I'd be calling Carolina up all the time because that team just, you know, they just, they've, they'll take a player and be like, oh yeah, we'll take them and then they'll give you a draft pick for the future. Cause they want to win now. That owner so bad. [00:36:39] Speaker A: I'm sorry, guys. I already thought we already talked about NFC Spider didn't realize we spent that much time on. [00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah, we spent 30 for 30 on jason. Yeah, we hit it on Jason's Bears. [00:36:49] Speaker C: Listen, you're just lucky we didn't record that in episode one because that was really the only takes I wanted to get off was my stuff around the bears. We can just close the podcast down at this point. Like it's really over with. [00:36:58] Speaker B: But let's get back to the NFC south. Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting division. I mean, like we said, nine wins. I think you win the division. Atlanta's kind of all in. I love what they did, getting cousins trading for Judah a couple weeks ago. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Nice pickup. [00:37:15] Speaker B: They got the safety, they signed the safety to Atlanta's all in and in the division. That's, that's bad. I mean, you win a division, you host a playoff game. [00:37:24] Speaker A: So they'll at least have the fourth seed, right? [00:37:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Worst case, you know, we talk about Cousins health. Can he stay healthy coming off that torn achilles? I think he's gonna be what, 36 this upcoming season or during the season. But pinnocks, he's been around forever, it seems like even though he's a rookie, but he's ready to rock and roll. They got the weapons. Good old line, upgraded on defense. New coach. I've got Atlanta winning the division. [00:37:53] Speaker A: You got Atlanta winning. [00:37:54] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think that they're the favorites. I think they're the favorites for a reason. I think they have all the weapons but haven't had the quarterback is what they've kind of looked for the last, you know, couple years. So I think either, either the weapons are wrong and, you know, we were all just fooled or, but I don't think that's the case. I think, you know, you got Bijon Robinson. I think it could be another thing. Do they use him appropriately? Because they did. Totally did not last year. They should be like feeding this guy this ball, take pressure off, you know, cousins or pennants, whoever's back there. Tyler Algier is a good change up. Running back to that. They could bring it in so they definitely have depth in the running back position. Break. London, pretty highly regarded wide receiver coming out of USC. I think times for him to maybe potentially take the next step. I will lose a fantasy league every year because I draft Kyle Pitts because I don't understand how this guy doesn't have a thousand yard receiving every time he touches the ball. But I think does he have a quarterback that can get him the ball now? And I think this is maybe kind of a make or break for him and to show he's the playmaker that they drafted a couple years ago and then they got, we'll bring the Bears into it. They got former Bears number one wide receiver Darnell Mooney on the roster too and he could just fill in and be the number two behind Drake London. So I think they got the pieces to put it together with Cousins. And I think the while I think many question the drafting of Pennix after they signed Cousins, which I probably think it was a reach, but at the same time, like, you know, how many quarterbacks went down last year? And if you put the hands of the backup, you know, they could be in a pretty, they could be in a pretty good position that if cousins doesn't bounce back or goes down, hey, they have the future already. They're sitting right behind them and you know, their season doesn't take a step backwards if their starter goes out like it would for most teams in the league. [00:39:36] Speaker A: I think me and Aaron talked about this earlier in the year, right. Possibly betting on cousins going down by. [00:39:42] Speaker B: I think cousins five games, he's gonna miss three to five games, I think, this year. But yeah, I think last year was the record. I want to say 69 to 72 different quarterbacks took snaps under center last year, some ridiculous number. So I mean, I see what Atlanta is doing. Taking Pinnocks maybe was a stretch at that spot considering they had other needs. But I think they addressed that for, with the trades they made in the offseasons, they, everybody said they needed a DN. They went and got one Judahn from the Patriots. They got some secondary help at safety there. And if cousins does go down, Jason mentioned all the weapons they have, Pitts, London, Regent, Robinson, Mooney. They got a lot of guys and they play in indoors now. They got a quarterback that can throw them and you know, Pinnocks has got an arm. So Raheem Moore taken over. He was an intern coach there. I think a few years back did okay. But people, I think, I think he's ready though. I think you know, working under, you know, Sean McVeigh and stuff. I think Atlanta's on the up. To me, Atlanta feels a lot like the Detroit Lions last year, where they're ready to take that step. [00:40:53] Speaker A: You mean tears. [00:40:54] Speaker B: Are they gonna take that step? [00:40:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:56] Speaker B: And given the division, we talked about being the weakest in the NFL, I think it's, it's wide open. They got to do it. The time is now. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Speaking of the rest, oh, Jason, real quick, do you got them winning? Over nine off. So you got the over? [00:41:13] Speaker C: I got them winning. I don't know if I got the over. Like, like with Aaron said, like, this could be a nine win team that wins the division right now. So, like, I'd be hesitant to go, to go against it. I think they could win it at nine games. Um, yeah. [00:41:26] Speaker B: Cool. [00:41:26] Speaker A: So you guys both got Falcons? I got the Bucks, I got Falcons in second place. Uh, what about the rest of the division? Saints. No one likes car. They might have the worst quarterback coach combo in the NFL. And then the Panthers new coach, Bryce Young, might be the worst trade in football history. And, Jason, you must be celebrating this for the rest of your life. Possibly, yeah. [00:41:50] Speaker C: We still got the second. We still got the second round pick next year. Coming from that trade for Bryce, runs giving. [00:41:56] Speaker A: So it's pretty crazy. They're at five and a half. I was looking at their schedule. I don't, I can't count. Five wins for Carolina. Yeah. [00:42:06] Speaker B: Well, how many games Carolina went last year? [00:42:08] Speaker A: And I just don't know anything about. They won two games last year. [00:42:12] Speaker B: Two. [00:42:12] Speaker A: Two games. I think they do improve a little bit. Um, they did pick up some guys and free agency, but it's just, uh. I don't know, dude, I'm looking like that. [00:42:25] Speaker B: New coach syndrome, man. [00:42:26] Speaker A: The new coach syndrome. You know, everyone's pumped up. New systems in place, new offense or. [00:42:34] Speaker B: Rule of thumb, new coach, new quarterback, new system. They come out strong week one or pulling up set, week one. We kind of saw that with Daniel Jones, Brian Dable, when the Giants came out of nowhere, beat the Tennessee Titans week one and go on to win ten games in a playoff and win a playoff game. I'm not saying Carolina is going to be that, not at all. But Dave canales is a good coach. He did good in Seattle. We saw what he did with Baker mayfield in Tampa. He turned that offense around after, you know, Brady left, Brian left, which. And all those guys left. So I think Dave canals is a good coach. I think this team is going to be respectable, but they don't really have any skilled talent on the wide outside. They don't have any players that just scare defenses and you got a quarterback that's still learning. Raw, undersized. It's hard to envision Carolina winning more than five and a half games. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think a team has done back to back last place records since the Detroit Lions maybe a decade. [00:43:37] Speaker C: Ago that remember the Browns. The Browns are like one in 15 and like oh, and 16 like back to back years or something like that. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:45] Speaker C: So yeah, I agree with Aaron. I think the case you can make with Carolina and I guess I'm going to be look at the schedule guy for every one of these teams. But I mean they play New Orleans, they're playing an AFC west schedule. So they're playing the Rams and the Raiders, they play the Giants, they play Denver, they play Washington. And then a division that might be one of the worst in football, you know, are they splitting games with potentially the Saints? So for their case they're playing some teams that could be just as bad too where they can pull off some wins but, and maybe, you know, win more than two games last year. I think potentially you're still looking at the under surprise. [00:44:23] Speaker B: I mean I'm looking at their schedule right now and all their big games like the teams you mentioned are on the road at Chicago, at Philadelphia game last year. So they've got, I got them under five and a half wins. [00:44:42] Speaker A: All right, so Falcons then Bucks, Saints and Panthers. [00:44:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm aligned with that. I think that's the way it shakes up. [00:44:52] Speaker A: All right. [00:44:52] Speaker B: I agree with that. I know we didn't talk about the Saints, but I'm okay. I was okay with, yeah, I know. [00:45:00] Speaker A: A lot of Saints fans and like I haven't heard them talk about the Saints in a few years. Feel bad. Before we go to the west, let's do the east. [00:45:14] Speaker C: Man. You gonna talk about the Cowboys, Aaron? Are they, they like one of your sleepers or something like that? [00:45:19] Speaker B: I'm not big on the Cowboys at all, man. I'm not big on the Cowboys at all. America's team, man. America, they're gonna leave, not Eren's team, I'll put it that way. [00:45:30] Speaker C: This year, although I'm sure they're gonna lead first take. So they're gonna get a plenty of love. [00:45:33] Speaker A: So they had three seasons, twelve wins. Mccarthy's been money. They just kind of haven't come through in the playoffs. They've just resigned CD Lamb, you gotta figure they're gonna sign their quarterback again. But they also have their running backs, which were the second string at New England last year. Usually terrible. [00:45:51] Speaker B: I mean, they got Zeke. Well, yeah, you know, I mean, I'm shaking my boots. [00:45:56] Speaker A: They look old as fuck in that position. Their over under is nine and a half. No respect for them repeating even above ten wins. There's a lot of nine and a half, eight and a half overs this year. [00:46:10] Speaker B: Isn't that the division that hasn't had a repeat winner since like the turn of the century? It's been like 25 years, 22 years. No repeat divisional winner in the. [00:46:20] Speaker C: I thought, I thought that was the AFC south. [00:46:24] Speaker B: It could be all divisions. [00:46:26] Speaker C: I always thought the AFC south was the one. Whoever they're, they did a run where whoever finished last finished first the next year or something like that. [00:46:31] Speaker A: Crazy. Yeah. Eagles are ten and a half over under. They did a Barkley from the Giants. They got some nice free agent acquisitions, great o line. Hertz. I don't know how you guys feel about Hertz, but I like him, I think is taking like another step this year. He kind of has to. I don't know. They kind of played like shit down the second half last year. They were one in the division. Everyone got hurt. I think they're going to rebound this year. I got the Eagles winning the division. I'm taking the over ten and a. [00:47:02] Speaker C: Half in the favorites. I think the Eagles, you know, probably biggest question is, like, they've been, their successes have really tied to that offensive line and how big of a strength it was for, you know, Hertz and the running game. And I, now you lose Jason, Kelsey, you know, you're starting to get up there in age. We saw this team, like, really, you know, kind of collapse down the stretch last year after a really hot start to the year. I don't know, like, it's, it hurts as good without the offensive line in front of them. I think that that's a big question mark if Rome, you're a big fan. I don't know. They're favored to win the division, but. [00:47:41] Speaker A: I don't think they're fair by much. Really? [00:47:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I think Hertz. Hertz is a guy. I mean, he had the one great year. They gave him the big contract. He didn't look right last year. I don't know if he was hurt. I don't know if, you know, got the big contract, didn't want to get hurt. [00:47:59] Speaker A: Do you guys beef with him in the coach? [00:48:02] Speaker B: Maybe something to do. He's been there. Arianna, what is this, his third year. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Fourth year there, fourth year. Yeah, think so. [00:48:11] Speaker B: So, I mean, I don't know how big of a thing that is. You know, he had his, like we said, we had his best year of his career with Shane Steichen. Steichen leaves. They kind of put an OC in there that wasn't really an OC. Now they've got a Kalin Moore coming in, had the number one offense when he was the OC with the Cowboys for a few years there and then, obviously struggled last year with the Chargers. But, you know, Herbert missed a lot of time, and Mike Williams got hurt. Keenan Allen was hurt. So understandable. That's why the Chargers finished five and twelve. All the injuries they had, I think Kalen Moore can get Lynn hurts going again. I mean, he's got a ton of talent. Brown, Smith on the outside, you know, Saquon broccoli, broccoli there. The offensive line is good. [00:48:59] Speaker C: You say Saquon broccoli. [00:49:06] Speaker A: That'S so good. [00:49:07] Speaker B: I know we're 11:00 now, so. And then you got, you know, what is it? Dallas Goddard, they're a tight end. The O line is still good. They bring in Vic van Geo on defensive coordinator. Their secondary is not great. Their linebacker play was terrible last year. They've stacked up first round draft picks from the University of Georgia on the defensive line. All right, forgot about that. I think. I think Bradbury's out, too. For the first six or eight weeks there. This is one of their number one corner. So Eagles have a lot of question marks. I mean, they are probably the team to be in that division just based off the talent and the team they're bringing back and that they've kind of, you know, dominated the division a bit over the last few years. But it's. I don't think it's gonna be a cakewalk. It's. It's gonna be a tough, competitive division. [00:50:03] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty brutal. [00:50:05] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I think it's between them and Dallas. I don't think much of the giants, don't think much of the commanders. I. They're probably. There's probably still gonna win the division, I think. You know, you bring up Saquon broccoli or Barkley, whatever we're calling. Aaron's calling him at this point. [00:50:20] Speaker B: But, hey, that broccoli dude, man, you get that. He's squatting that 500 pounds, so, you know, he's got the spin of the broccoli going on. [00:50:27] Speaker C: Yeah. But I think. I think that's definitely an upgrade at the running, running back position. They could be a little more aggressive ground and pound. I mean, some of that comes into play late in the season and in bad northeastern weather when they're playing in Philadelphia or New York. So I think that could be a difference. I think Alice is going to be the team. They probably have a hot September in October and everyone's going to be talking about them going and they're going to kind of collapse down the stretch. Eleven injury. But I think the Eagles probably edge, edge Dallas out. Dallas finished second and Giants and commanders are fighting over third and fourth. I don't think anyone really believes in Daniel Jones for the Giants and the commanders. Maybe surprise some people and pick up some wins and finish third in that division. [00:51:08] Speaker A: So let's talk about them. Giants and commanders. I put Redskins on my notebook. I'm still going by the Redskins. [00:51:16] Speaker C: I'm still partial to the Washington football team. I just think that had a little, little cachet to it. [00:51:21] Speaker B: You know, it's better than commanders put that one. [00:51:24] Speaker A: And with a new ownership regime, they might change the name again. That's the rumor. So they're both at six and a half over under. Giants have the worst offensive line. Daniel Jones, enough said 40 million to not be able to throw a football. We picked a bad time, not play football guys. But the commanders though, Jaden Daniels I thought, I thought was probably one of the better picks and actually have them potentially winning rookie of the year. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I like Jaden Daniels. I like Washington this year. I just don't think they have the weapons on defense to win some of these close games. They're kind of raw young there. I think Jayden Daniels can be really good. They got some good players on offense, I want to say. I mean, I think Dallas is going to struggle in this division. I just think all the turmoil that's going around over there. Mike McCarthy last year of his contract, CD Lamb coming in late, no contract. Michael Parsons. I think Dallas is headed for a downfall year. I just don't know if Washington has enough to leap frog them for numbers two in the division. [00:52:29] Speaker A: I don't think so now. [00:52:30] Speaker B: So I'm going to stick Eagles winning Dallas second. I think Washington a close third and Daniel Jones and the Giants Assad fourth place. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Yeah, that's, that's the same order I have. [00:52:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, Washington's, I mean, Washington's got an interesting schedule. You look at it, you know, opening up at Tampa. They play the Giants. You know, they're gonna, you know, they're gonna play, you know, Tennessee late in the year and stuff. So there's there's some winnable games out there. They do got some tough games because they're playing the AFC Northeast. So, you know, they're gonna go against kind of that gauntlet we talked about in the last episode of, you know, the Browns and the Steelers and the Ravens and the Bengals. So you're gonna have, you know, some tough games there. But I think the commander's got some, you know, some interesting weapons as you bring in eckler in. They already have a pretty good running back. And Brian Robinson. They got, you know, Terry McLaren, who's, you know, a pretty, you know, pretty above average wide receiver that's a big playmaker, low key. Always a late fantasy pick for me. I'll take Terry in a bunch of leagues. But so, you know, some interesting weapons. And I think Jalen's just a dynamic player that, you know, that you saw at LSU that, you know, was, was a conversation, although be a short beat. It was. Could he be the number one, you know, picking the draft, you know, coming off of the year he put up at LSU. So I think, you know, could be the best Washington quarterback they've had in, in quite some time, you know, to turn that franchise around. So probably instantly already like, you know, at least the third best quarterback in that division already. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm kind of buying some of that LSU love. They only won four games last year. I don't know. I'm looking at the schedule, maybe six and a half might be a little tough. [00:54:09] Speaker B: I think they get over six and a half. I think a key for Jayden Daniels is getting Cliff Kingsbury in there as OC, obviously was Patrick Mahomes collegiate coach there at Texas Tech, but he's worked with Kyler Murray, so he knows how to handle guys with big arms, with move making, get out of the pocket and run. I think that's a big plus for him. And, you know, he's got, he's got some weapons. That's an interesting week. One matchup of Tampa Bay. That's a really, really good, I think, test. I think it's really a good game. We talk about new coaches, new quarterbacks. You're looking for a week, one upset, maybe Washington. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Well, they could be two and two after four weeks with the Arizona Giants as wins, but. Or they be one in three, who knows? Cool. So you guys have Eagles winning Cowboys above or under nine and a half? [00:54:59] Speaker B: I just don't see them under, under. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Me losing three games. [00:55:06] Speaker C: Nine and a half. [00:55:07] Speaker A: Yes, I have with the Cowboys. I just don't see them dropping three games, you know, going from the twelve in season to nine. [00:55:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's tough. Everybody's a lot of good points to kind of where they're at, but I think they're a team that just puts up w's during the regular season and if they're, they can be a ten, a ten win team pretty easily and hit that over. [00:55:25] Speaker A: That's what I think. All right, cool. Let's wrap that one up. [00:55:32] Speaker C: You save in the west just, you're, you're stationed out of San Francisco, so we're staying the NFC west to last. [00:55:38] Speaker A: You know, I think the NFC west is a pretty interesting division niners. Another tough Super bowl loss, Super bowl hangover. I thought they were really healthy last year and even, even when they had like that little tough stretch in the middle of season, I just don't see them maintaining that health again and a little more drama. I think then of C West got a lot better, Rams got better, Seahawks got better. Some people can argue that the Cardinals got better. Murray's coming back healthy. You got Marvin Harrison, junior, who might be rookie of the year as well. Offensive rookie of the year. That guy's money. He's really open up the field for them Seahawks, depending on what you're leaning towards, you got that new coach syndrome. You know, they got a beefed up roster a little bit. Or do you think they just like suck? You know, Smith, Lee in the charge, the bottom half, the division, they're both at seven and a half, rams are at eight and a half and the four answers are at eleven and a half. [00:56:29] Speaker B: Well, I'm going to come out the gate. I think the 49 ers are going to win the division. Obviously the talent they've got coming back and everybody just finally getting signed and contracts restructured and everybody's going to be rock and roll and ready to go here week one. This division to me is a little bit shocking how I'm going to stack it up. I got Seattle coming in second. I think Seattle is going to win second. I think Seattle is going to get a wild card spot. [00:56:55] Speaker A: I got in the wild card as well. [00:56:57] Speaker B: I've got the Rams. I think the Rams take a step back. Stafford's health has been in question over the last few years. Cooper cuffs be getting hurt. Their offensive line I think is average. I mean, no one's talked about it yet. We're just bringing it up. The Rams. But Aaron Donald retiring. That guy was good for two or three blocks lineman blocking him per game. They did pick up Jared verse from Florida State in the first round to help out that D line. But, you know, they get a new defensive coordinator. He more, they just traded their linebacker, led the team and tackles to. Was it Tennessee they traded them to? So I think the Rams, the Rams are going to take a step back. And I think Arizona, like you mentioned, with Kyler Murray being healthy, Marvin Harrison, junior Connor in the backfield, they're going to be tough, competitive. They played a lot of games tough last year. So, I mean, I've got 49 ers winning division. Seattle Rams, Cardinals. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Cardinals only won four games last year, but as I mentioned, seven and a half. To me, this can be really tough. Rams, some people got them going to the Super Bowl. I don't see it. [00:58:10] Speaker B: Some guy that goes by the nickname the herd. [00:58:13] Speaker A: A few guys. A few guys. [00:58:14] Speaker C: You look at the Rams. I, as a, as a fan of a team, has never had the superior head coach. I think that's the one advantage where you, you trust McVeigh to there. He's going to find a diamond in the rough. You think he doesn't have a receiver. He's got puka Nakua. I don't know where to add to Cooper cup. And there's going to be a, you know, weapons that we don't know about. They bring up. Yeah. Aaron Donald, massive loss on the defensive side. I think it's a team that you're always kind of like looking at. You know, they're going to be around or a little above 500. I don't concur with Aaron's take. I don't, I don't see Seattle making this step in year, one of the new coach in that regime. But I think, I think the niners of the class of the division, I think another team with a great head coach and a well run organization, I know maybe some Niners fans up in your neck of the woods, you know, you guys lose the Super bowl, so everyone freaks out. I'd love to lose in the Super bowl. You know, a couple times. That'd be, that'd be, that'd be a great year if I got to the Super bowl and lose. But, like, you know, when you, when you talk about the class of NFL organizations, like you look to the Niners and you look to the Ravens and probably Rome Steelers, there's something to be said of winning. I mean, obviously, the Chiefs, too, teams that are consistently always in the playoffs and they can go through cycles of roster turnover and the difficult cap situations year after year. The, the unsuccessful, poorly run franchises don't know how to manage through the salary cap and find diamonds in the rough that be contributors. I think the Niners are always a team that great. We'll take a 7th round quarterback with a bunch of weapons around him and make it work. You know, we'll find the next guy that's going to be a skilled position and then trade for Christian McCaffrey when needed. But I think that's maybe the last year of this core where, hey, do they pay? Dyuke. Okay, does Devo Samuel? Is he out the door? Probably next year and some of the other parts we continue spoofing, but I think the niners of the class of division, I think the Rams are probably second, but a little farther off. I probably think it's a repeat of the standings last year where you're getting niners, Rams, Seahawks and then Cardinals and last again. [01:00:16] Speaker A: Interesting. Do you got the Cardinals above seven and a half or kind of repeating what they got last year there you got four wins. Do you see them getting a few more this year? [01:00:24] Speaker B: Second year going from four to eight? That's a lot. I don't think they get over seven and a half. I think they're probably a six seven win team. [01:00:33] Speaker C: I agree there and I think you take the under, but they're a little bit better than last year. But I mean, yeah, they got Marvin Harrison. What's that going to do? And then Kyler Murray. Is he going to put a full season together? I guess if call of duty drops in like early November, is he going to be constantly. People are going to bring that up or whatever. It's going to be a meme online on his attention to detail there. But, you know, ton of talent. But like, is it going to put together a whole season? [01:00:55] Speaker A: So how about Seattle? They won nine games last year. They're in third place. Do you guys put that much stock in Pete Carroll being that great of a coach? It was just like the end of the road or do they actually improve with some of the pickups that they got? [01:01:09] Speaker C: Obviously Aaron thinks so. [01:01:11] Speaker B: I mean, look at Pete Carroll is a great coach, but I think, I think coach they got coming over from Baltimore, I think, I think it was the best hire in the offseason. The coach they got Mike McDonald. Mac McDonald. Yeah. So I'm, I'm big on Seattle. I like the OC they got coming over from the Washington Huskies. They took him from the college ranks. He worked with Pinnocks, so we know he runs a good offense. They got DK, they got a few other weapons that wide outd Walker at running back. A good old line that struggled last year but was really good the year before. And we talked about, you know, jason talked about organizations that have been constantly winning. Seattle has been constantly winning. Been in the playoffs every year. Pete Carroll, he just said got fired at the nine and eight. I think he was there 14 seasons of eleven or twelve of them winning. They just kind of needed to change and I liked that way they went. I think they can compete for the division. I think the 49 ers are going to regress and take a step back. I don't think Seattle is ready to leapfrog them yet, but I am, I am high on Seattle and they're over. Under seven and a half. [01:02:22] Speaker A: You said it is. Yeah. [01:02:23] Speaker B: I think Seattle is going to win ten plus games this year. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Ten plus games. [01:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:29] Speaker A: That's, that's a, that's, that's a ballsy pick there. Well, how about the niners because they're. [01:02:33] Speaker B: Eleven and a half under. [01:02:35] Speaker A: Under. [01:02:37] Speaker C: Wow. [01:02:38] Speaker A: Well, the math ain't math at homie. It is 11:00 though, under, man. [01:02:44] Speaker C: I think, I think Seattle is an interesting over because you said seven and a half. [01:02:49] Speaker A: It is. Yeah. [01:02:50] Speaker C: We got the good. Because I think they, I think with the, you know, with the team they had last year, I think it easily repeat and be a nine win team again. An eight nine team or that. I just don't, I'm not confident in Geno Smith or Sam Howell that they're going to take that above, you know, an average team to the next level. [01:03:08] Speaker A: Sam, how killed it with Washington last year. [01:03:11] Speaker C: Then why isn't he still there? [01:03:14] Speaker B: Because Jaden Daniels is available. [01:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Jason, I'm assuming you got the Rams over eight and a half, right? You got them in second. [01:03:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Aaron, you got under. That's tough. [01:03:30] Speaker C: He's got to manners. He'd have three teams with like twelve wins on this, on this division or something like that. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the 49 ers won eleven games. I think Seattle wins ten. I think the Rams probably win nine. So I would, I would lean towards the over. [01:03:43] Speaker A: Goddamn. Just swing that big dick around, huh? [01:03:47] Speaker B: All twelve inches. Mandy. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Cool, man. [01:03:53] Speaker B: That's what that, that's what that broccoli would do for you, bro. [01:03:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Saquon Broccoli. Aaron Toller, aka Saquon Broccoli. [01:03:59] Speaker B: So let's get the playoff teams go, man. [01:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:01] Speaker B: Teams going. [01:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah. What is it? [01:04:04] Speaker B: Well, what about that, what about the NFC north, man? How you got that division? I mean you were calculating for the last. Oh, yeah, we got going, dude, we. [01:04:12] Speaker C: Were waiting for his hot. [01:04:14] Speaker B: You had Detroit and then you just went, you went silent. [01:04:17] Speaker A: Did I? I'm also crashing as well that yerba mate is not making it right now. Yeah. So playoffs, Eagles winning the NFC east. That's fine. I got lions repeating in the NFC north. NFC south. You guys are slowly persuading me to pick the Falcons like everyone else. But that's why I want to stay away. I'm going to pick the Bucks. NFC West. Niners repeat. But I got the under on the eleven half. I think they're a ten or eleven win team. Seattle probably be a nine or ten win team. Wild card. I did have, man, this is tough. I don't think the Cowboys make the playoffs. I think the Ingles are the one that make it out of the NFC East. I think the packers get the other wild cardinal and so does Seattle. [01:05:12] Speaker B: And then I guess NFC championship and Super Bowl. [01:05:17] Speaker A: NFC championship. I got, I got Lions in a repeat game against the 49 ers. Lions win the game that they should have won last year and they go on to win the Super bowl. That's my Super bowl pick. [01:05:38] Speaker B: So you got, you got the Lions over the Texans then? [01:05:42] Speaker A: I do. [01:05:43] Speaker B: Okay. [01:05:44] Speaker A: I do, yeah. Just, I think Texans gotta take a big l before they take the next step. [01:05:51] Speaker B: Okay. [01:05:51] Speaker C: Interesting. All right. Am I up or am I you? So I think we talked about, well, NSC north out of the way. I think you get three teams out of the north. So I think that's Lions, Packers, Bears, other division winners. So we had the Niners, had the Falcons and we had the Eagles in there. So we got two teams left. I think the NFC south is only going to have the division represented. One division representative. I do think the Cowboys sneak in there and I think the Rams sneak in there. [01:06:33] Speaker B: Okay. [01:06:33] Speaker A: And the Rams. [01:06:35] Speaker C: Yeah. They do that right? Or am I mathematic this wrong? [01:06:37] Speaker B: I think, yeah, you got, you got it right. I believe. [01:06:40] Speaker A: Well, you said that's. That's four wild car teams. You got. [01:06:45] Speaker C: I got four. Yeah. See, I do. See how math they are. Did the Rams don't get in? I think the Cowboys get in. [01:06:51] Speaker A: Rams get in. Cowboys don't. Who's winning the division for the north for you here? [01:06:56] Speaker B: The Lions. Oh, yeah. [01:06:58] Speaker C: Cowboys. Cowboys will get in. So you got three out of the north. Eagles, eagles, Cowboys, Falcons, niners. [01:07:06] Speaker A: And you got Bears and Packers wild card. [01:07:09] Speaker C: Yep. [01:07:10] Speaker A: Okay. Championship. [01:07:14] Speaker C: I think you're going to get Eagles and Niners. As much as I said about the NFC north, I think they're going to eat each other alive. And I think the Eagles go back to where it's kind of do some unfinished business that they did last year. [01:07:31] Speaker B: Whoa. [01:07:34] Speaker C: Had to be a little different. I don't know if the lines are going to be able to take that step. I think you're going to get a Super bowl rematch. It's pretty much of a chalk game, but I think, I think you get niners. Chiefs again. [01:07:43] Speaker B: Niners again. [01:07:45] Speaker A: Oh, we're doing Super bowl. Yeah. [01:07:47] Speaker C: Well, we already picked the champions. You gotta go there. [01:07:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So in the east, I've got the Eagles north division, I've got the packers winning. In the south, I've got the Falcons. In the west, I got the 49 ers. I'm gonna agree with Jason. I think the north gets three playoff teams. Lions and Bears are the wild cards there. And then my last wild card, I'm gonna take the Seattle Seahawks to get in as a last wild card team. [01:08:20] Speaker A: I really pick them. [01:08:21] Speaker B: I don't have the Cowboys in the playoffs either. [01:08:25] Speaker C: So I'm the only one with the Cowboys in the playoffs. [01:08:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:30] Speaker C: Okay. [01:08:32] Speaker B: And then I think in the NFC championship game, it's gonna be the packers versus the Niners. And to elaborate on Rome's point, I think the packers that should have beaten the Niners last year, packers get to the Super bowl and I got the Texans beating the packers in the Super Bowl. [01:08:53] Speaker A: Jason, real quick, you said the Eagles are winning over the Niners. [01:08:58] Speaker C: The Niners are going to go to the Super bowl. [01:09:00] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I messed that one up. [01:09:02] Speaker C: I'm just saying the Eagles are going to get to the NSC championship game. I think the Niners beat the Chiefs in the Super bowl. The three peak is squashed in the Super Bowl. [01:09:12] Speaker A: I would love to see that. Man, that would be so awesome. They should have won the. [01:09:16] Speaker C: I want to, I want it for the story. It's, it's not, it's not an attractive pick. It's the two top favorite teams. But I think when it comes down to it, I think there's, there's some time here for Shanahan to really make a name for themselves. Kind of maybe the last run for this entire core that they have there. The Niners kind of ends, ends the dynasty right now for Mahomes here. [01:09:37] Speaker A: I think this is definitely the last run for the 49 ers. [01:09:40] Speaker B: The clock is ticking. The clock is taking on the 49 ers for sure. [01:09:44] Speaker A: Cool. Well, that wraps it up. Do you guys want to do like, any wild takes any surprise teams to watch rookie of the year MVP, coach of the year. Stay with me. [01:09:56] Speaker B: I mean, if we're going to do MVP, I think obviously I got the Texans winning the Super bowl, so CJ Stroud is going to be my MVP. [01:10:04] Speaker A: Or for the league. [01:10:05] Speaker B: For the league. Rookie of the year. Caleb Williams for offensive rookie of the year and coach of the year. I haven't really given much thought of coach of the year. [01:10:18] Speaker A: I'll go with, we could do it later. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Packers coach Matt Laferver to get to a coach of the year. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Jason, you want to do any MVP picks yet or um, or tablet for another day? [01:10:31] Speaker C: I'm a, I'm, I'm gonna keep that for another day. You know, I'll, I can, I can play, uh, I can play the after one week and then give my take. Whoever had the big week one until Aaron, I told you so. [01:10:42] Speaker A: Just overreactions. I love it. [01:10:44] Speaker C: Just over. [01:10:45] Speaker B: I mean, what's your, uh, I mean what's, what's, what's an upset or what should we look for in week one? [01:10:53] Speaker C: Upset in week one. I mean, it's interesting. I think if you look at the Monday night game, the Niners being a four and a half, you know, I know I just picked the Niners to win the Super bowl, but that's an interesting line for all the hype of the jets right there. Is that a closer game than four and a half or whatever that Monday night game is, right? [01:11:13] Speaker A: Yeah, they lowered it. It was at four and a half. [01:11:16] Speaker C: So yeah, I don't know if any treeing stuff, the Brazil game is going to be interesting on Friday because I. [01:11:26] Speaker B: Mean that could be a preview of the NFC championship right there. [01:11:29] Speaker C: It could be. [01:11:30] Speaker B: I mean, we could be looking at the first two games of the year, previews of AFC and NFC championship. Literally. We could be looking at that. [01:11:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:39] Speaker B: Considering we had the Lions and Chiefs open the year last year and both teams were in conference championship games, so. [01:11:45] Speaker C: Well, the league picks us for a reason. If you listen to some, I mean it's the script so you know they're going to foreshadow the script of the NFL season. Right. So it's report that. So I think Baltimore going into Kansas City, week one, look at that Super bowl hangover I think we talked about in the AFC preview. I think that could be an upset right there off the bat at Lamar and the team going into Arrowhead and getting a big upset against Kansas City and, you know, them getting their Super bowl rings. But the Brazil game is interesting because I think you got two teams. It's a neutral site in a big travel down to Brazil. You know, anything kind of happened kind of down there. [01:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Week one, crazy opens. I think the Chiefs are going to beat Baltimore tomorrow. Last year they lost to the Lions, so I think that kind of stings a little bit for them. That Super bowl hangover. They don't want to lose back to back years at home, open the season. Plus, I think they kind of feel disrespected by Baltimore. Everybody's talking, including myself. Baltimore is a better team. Should have won that game, played a bad game. I think this is a Chiefs chance to make a statement in that opener Monday night. Game niners, a lot of distractions. I think the jets are primed to get an upset in that one. I do like them at least getting the four and a half. That could be a game that's a light field goal winner for either side. I think the big upset in week one, I think I mentioned earlier, I like the Arizona Cardinals going into Buffalo and beating the Bills in week one outright as a six point dog. [01:13:11] Speaker C: Yeah, you mentioned it earlier, and I think that's a, it's, that's a big line for a week. One game for Arizona. I think as much as we kind of like downplay, maybe Arizona in the preview of the NFC West, I think a lot of people down on the bills, like you're saying win, but I think it's a good, that's a good cover for Arizona. [01:13:29] Speaker B: I think they cover for sure. I think they have a good chance to win. You know, unless, you know, Josh Allen pits on the cape and shows up. But I think Marvin Harrison junior is going to ball out. I think Kyler Murray is going to ball out. I think it's going to be a good game. I think it's going to be a high scoring game. I think week one could have some high scoring games in Jacksonville. Miami is an interesting game. Is that a 35 31 shootout? It kind of feels like it down there. Both teams are going to be used to the Heat, so there should be no excuse for not a lot of points scored in that one, man. [01:14:00] Speaker C: A lot of points. I think that's going to be up and down and everyone's going to be like, getting iv bags on the, on the sideline there all day because it's going to be like 100 degrees outside. [01:14:11] Speaker A: Cool. Well, either way, we'll have some picks. Aaron's going to be giving it out on Twitter and on Instagram, where we can be found on Twitter and Instagram from sources, from the sofa. And we just locked in with dub club, where we're going to be allowing people to subscribe to hot pics from the podcast daily. Right, Aaron? A little MLB action daily, daily and college football every week. [01:14:40] Speaker C: I'll give you a pick right now. You should be betting whoever the White Sox are playing. That is who you should be betting every day. That is the lock of the year. Whatever day. It is. [01:14:50] Speaker B: On the run line, too, by the way. Lay, lay, whatever. You got it. Lay. [01:14:54] Speaker A: I sent Jason. I forgot what I sent you the other day. It was really funny. It was like some quote, like how bad the White Sox were. And he's like that. That's only like the worst part of the season. I screenshot it, tweeted it, got some likes. It was really funny. It was great. Speaking of which, we'll come back and do like, a college football wrap up. But that guy that promised eat dog shit about Florida State, I. [01:15:17] Speaker B: Has he resurfaced? [01:15:18] Speaker A: No, there's somebody looking him up online. [01:15:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:23] Speaker A: They got his cell phone number, they got his address. Everyone's saying, like, he has to eat this dog shit to end a potential curse over Florida State. Otherwise, it's. [01:15:32] Speaker C: Are you. Are you sure that wasn't Aaron? I thought Aaron was a big Florida State fan. Brad, back in the day, Aaron was a big Florida state. [01:15:39] Speaker A: I really want to pick GT to do the upset, but I was like, no, you know, everyone's talking about Florida. [01:15:43] Speaker B: State when the Florida state all day, every day, man. But it's, you know, even I'm not dumb enough to put a pile of dog shit on the game, especially when your team is looking like that. [01:15:57] Speaker A: Looking bad, dude. Cool. You guys cool with that? Wrapping it up? [01:16:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it's 1130 here on the west. [01:16:05] Speaker A: Wrap it up. [01:16:06] Speaker B: 30 back there on the east. [01:16:07] Speaker C: Sounds good. Thanks, Rob. [01:16:09] Speaker A: First two episodes down, source from the sofa, Aaron, Jason Rome. Peace.