Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: Welcome back to the pod. Sources from the sofa, everybody. This is Rome. We got Jason and Aaron. We have not had Jason for a college pod in a few weeks.
So welcome back to the college section. Jason. We're recording Wednesday night.
It's a late night, late nighter but we got Aaron's games of the week games to watch.
Before we do that, we are going to recap week five in college football. Some headlines to kind of highlight what happened is Florida State getting upset by Virginia. Aaron did kind of mention in the last pod but Vegas was all over it because they were on upset alert. So was Notre Dame, which I didn't understand why they were upset alert. A lot of people had Washington upsetting Ohio State.
No one was picking Penn State to do much and losing once again to a top 10 team, Ole Miss, who has let me down many times already in the past few seasons. Cloudmalane Kiffin Fan they came up big. I felt like they could have scored more points on the lsu who's a very highly touted defense. But Ole Miss just looked bigger, better and I'm liking them to compete in the long run here in this College Football Playoff. What else happened here besides Penn State just coming up short? They were getting their ass beat for three quarters, came back in the fourth, made it look like a game they almost had a chance to tie it. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Aaron.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: And then we also have went to double overtime, right?
[00:01:36] Speaker B: Double overtime. That's right.
That's right. My bad.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: So double overtime 17:3. So yeah, they did. They did rally back in the fourth.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: Byu, Colorado, that was a tough pick. Colorado rallied back for that one as well. Then Alabama, Georgia. And Alabama has rebounded big time from getting beat by Florida State. Florida State gets upset this week, but Alabama is looking like a legitimate top 10 team. Who would have thought? Kellen DeBoer is not getting kicked out of Alabama just yet. Seems like his team is fighting pretty well. So we're starting to see some.
We're kind of starting to see the separation of the pack yet. But still I have a lot of questions of who's good and who's not. I still don't know for a handful of teams and there's a lot of teams I don't recognize in the top 25.
Aaron, what's your biggest takeaways from week five?
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Well, it's great to have Jason back on the pod. You know, he kind of disappeared after Notre Dame got off to an 0 and 2 start. But you know, magically they look Good in the last two games. And here he is joining us in week five. So I'm glad to have him here. Yeah, you know, that's part of our games of the week. So I want to get a good stuff on that Boise State Notre Dame contest coming up. Oh, but Rome, you, you mentioned a lot going on there in week five. College football. I mean, I guess, you know, I, I didn't listen to the pod. I wasn't on the pod Sunday. That's not yet been released. But Sam Pittman being fired by Arkansas, we mentioned, I said going into that game, he was, the receipt was warm.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah, he did.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Bad loss to Notre Dame would probably lead to his exit. He's gone coming into this week. We got another SEC coach on the hot seat. We'll get into it. Billy Napier at Florida. If he has a similar fate like Sam Pittman did with Florida getting blown out by Texas, I think he'll be showing the door this weekend.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: You calling it?
[00:03:19] Speaker A: Well, yeah, they get blown out and get beat bad. Yeah, I think he's on his way out. I think Jason would agree with that as well, given what's been going on there. That's, you know, you can't go one in Florida at Florida and be with what they were top 25, top 15 team before South Florida upset them early in the year.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: Right.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: You know, we, we go back to Friday, Florida State. Rome, I told you I did not feel good about that game. I had some worries coming in. We were on the over. We did hit the over in that game. Hell over.
[00:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:49] Speaker A: But Arizona State, we had that in the football contest. Unfortunately, that was a push for us. We should have gotten the win on that. I mean, they, how many opportunities do they have inside the red zone there, Jason, to kind of take that game over? Crazy. They didn't cover that one.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: I've had both of our pushes this year.
[00:04:07] Speaker C: Yeah, you've had both the pushes. So I, I guess I'll quit nodding for the podcast and just, you know, welcome back, Aaron. I, I, you know, you know, I, I, Notre Dame didn't have anything to do with me being away, you know, but, you know, I guess the sources were saying something to Aaron, but I, I was very high on Notre Dame coming into this week, and I felt maybe a little too confident that they're going to blow that Arkansas team out. Just Texas A and M, even though they did lose that game. The, what I saw from Notre Dame's offense was something I hadn't really seen before. It seemed to that Texas A and M. I was like, if they could put this many points up against Texas A and M, I think they really can do a number on Arkansas. And that's just the feel I had the entire time going game where I felt like, man, I don't think they're giving Notre Dame enough respect for that minus four line. I kept rethinking myself. I was like, man, it just. It just seems like Notre Dame can go and, like, beat this team by a couple touchdowns. And they. They overall did the Arizona State. But the Arizona State game. Yeah, that one, man. That.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: That's.
[00:05:02] Speaker C: It was. It was a Friday night. I'll be honest. I was at the airport watching that one. And, you know, you're just, you know, you get a weird airport vibe game, you know, just waiting for this departure. Flights delayed a little bit. You know, it's on. It's on a. It's on a weird TV at the airport. You don't have enough time going on. And, you know, you're like, man, like Arizona State, why are they not winning this all? You know, the opportunities and then the kind of the comebacks there and everything, like, okay, we might be able to cover this one. And then, you know, it just. It just pushes. So, yeah, Rome, throughout the college football season, you do have our two pushes. So you're. You're nailing the. The spread, I guess at that. At that point in the games, you're picking.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah, Arizona, man, they like.
All right. To like, explain how weird this game was, they had 207 rush yards to TCU's 10 rushing yards for that game.
Like, what the hell?
[00:05:51] Speaker A: Weren't they down 170 at one point or was it 14 0? I thought it was 17 0. I could be wrong, but it was at least 140 at one time.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: It was 17 0. I think in the second quarter, I think I was like, sweaty. I'm like, dude, you gotta be fucking kidding me.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think when I broke down that game room, I said, I just don't think TCU can run the ball against these guys because they're pass heavy team. And Arizona State Holmes got a pretty good defense. They should be able to control the clock, which they did for basically two and a half quarters after they woke up.
The student body got there a little late because I guess of the monsoons and thunderstorms going on in that area. So, you know, a little late delayed start by Arizona State eventually got it together, then they had first and goal.
We're kind of playing the clock and then they Were going to go for it on 4th and go inside the 1, get a stupid fall start after the quarterback sneaks it in and they kick the field goal. We get the push, but, you know, it's how it goes, I guess sometimes. I mean, it pushes better than the loss. So I guess we'll take it. It's a half a point in the contest.
[00:06:49] Speaker C: I mean, we're just. We're just looking at those. I think there's the fourth quarter where they turned. Turn it over on downs on like a longer drive. Then, you know, they get TCU to punt. And then they missed a field goal.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Like following two kicks. Right. He missed two kicks in that game, if I'm not mistaken.
[00:07:05] Speaker C: Believe. Yeah, he was missing the best one the first half, but I think the second half was the really killer one that you're kind of looking at. But yeah, you're right. They're down 17. Not it. It just felt like, hey, they're the better team the whole time. They should be pulling away from them, but like it just was. Nothing was ever kind of clicking and.
But they finally got the win at the end, but just not enough for us with the three points.
[00:07:27] Speaker A: Yeah, what sucks is the contest. Obviously these lines come out Wednesday, so they're locked in, but I think I was seeing some places, you know, two and a half was the final clothesline, which would have been nice if that's what it would have been for us.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: But that's the bad part about this contest because the Wednesday lines, like, they're kind of screwing you because there's like a lot more favor lines that come out by Friday night. And it's just like, dude, like how.
[00:07:49] Speaker A: It can work both ways. I mean, let's not be mistaken. I mean, you can get on a side where in line drops or goes up. It just, you know, it. It depends.
Definitely depends. I mean, speaking of Notre Dame, like Jason said, I. I don't know why that line was dropping. I think it came out like at 6, dropped a 4. I love Notre Dame. They were part of my big picks. I picked them on a part of this. Jason wasn't here for that one, but I was all on them, you know, like I said Rome. I think Sam Pittman was in trouble if he got beat bad. He did.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: I. I wasn't expecting to score that much. 56.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: I was expecting to pin it on Arkansas that bad. But Arkansas, after two really, really gut wrenching losses to Ole Miss and then Memphis, games that they could have once should have won the Memphis one.
Usually when you start losing games like that and you're kind of a mediocre program team.
It kind of goes downhill in Arkansas with Bobby Petrino taking over. Right. So it's interesting that he gets another gig at a head coaching job in college.
[00:08:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, we're on the podcast, but I don't think there's, I mean, there's not many more infamous photos in college football history than the Bobby Petrino post motorcycle accident press conference look with the, you know, he's got the whole neck brace, looks like his face is all sunburnt red. But I think that was like the asphalt or, you know, whatever happened to him. I mean it's just, it's just one of the all time things. And now like, hey, just winds up as head coach again at Arkansas.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: You know, we just, we just, you know, Jason wasn't on the pod. We got rid of one of the great all time press conference coaches, Mike Gundy, and now we bring in Bobby Petrino. So we just replaced them. You know, we just went from 1A to 1B.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: So here we go to 1B.
[00:09:34] Speaker C: Well, you know, I mean, just, he's still a man, but I think he's like 50 instead of 40 now. But you know, hey, he might be.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: 50, but the program's not paying 50 million to get that nil deals.
[00:09:49] Speaker C: And it's wild to me, I mean, thinking about Oklahoma State because they had some of like the biggest boosters because they like what T boom Pickens or whatever. It was just fun in that thing.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: The name of the stadium is that Pickett's stadium or whatever.
[00:10:03] Speaker C: So it's crazy. I mean they had like the, the billionaire, you know, oil man, like funding this thing like, like Phil Knight does for Nike with Oregon. And just how bad this team has got over the B the past decade is kind of, it's kind of wild.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: Well, it seems like the O yo guys have gone to Texas Tech and you know, Oklahoma State, I mean, basically Mike Gundy called it out what, two, three weeks ago, we mentioned where he said, look at Oregon's got a 40, $45 million roster. I got 7 million.
He basically did Oklahoma State and then they got beat 69 to 3 and he was basically justified. And it's crazy to think that, you know, 18 winning seasons out of what, 21. This was the 21st and so good. Shown the door. Shown the door. So we wish you well, Mike Undy.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: What have you done for me lately? I guess that's the motto.
Usc, Illinois, though.
I had Illinois. I was up On Illinois thought they would rebound from the Aspen they got the week before.
I don't think they're that bad. Usc, me and you, Aaron, we were talking about how we weren't sure how good they are. A lot of people were up on usc. Jason loved usc, had them in the contest and Illinois showed out as well. I think the score is a little bit closer than what it was at least until the fourth quarter. Or, or, or am I mistaken?
[00:11:25] Speaker A: Well, Illinois was up most of the game of them, right?
[00:11:28] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, Illinois was up most of the game. Usc, you know, did, you know, kind of mount the comeback in the fourth quarter, made a big push for it.
They were, they were up. Yeah, they were up really at the very end of the game because the field goal for ah, yeah, for Illinois won the game because.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: But 41 yarder. Yeah, so I see.
[00:11:51] Speaker C: I remember where I was at at that point because I was hoping for the, the block taken back in the return first return for a touchdown at that point. So that's why I was like clicking back to me what was for the game. But yeah, I mean, just early on for usc, like it just, you know, wasn't clicking what they wanted. You know, offensively, I think this is, this was for me a game for a USC offense that has a lot of talent, you know, maybe didn't have everything they had defensively, but for an Illinois team that the week prior kind of got, you know, ran up off by Indiana, I was like, man, I don't know if they can go against a USC offense that, you know, historic PAC 12 offense that, you know, usually pretty good quarterback play, great skill players did kind of go against. As I was watching the pregame show for this, I was like, man, you got the west coast team coming to central time zone for like a 10am kickoff or whatever the heck it was.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: It felt like 9AMC.
[00:12:42] Speaker C: It was because it was.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: Why?
[00:12:43] Speaker C: It's just, I was like, man, this game's on already when I was flipping. So yeah, it was a super, super early kickoff and that kind of played in play into it. I think that at that moment Rome, you know, we talked about this Sunday. Rome was questioning me when I picked it and I was like, I felt really good about it. But then, then I'm watching the pregame, I was like, I don't know, this goes against the west east coast kind of always thing. And, and I think it looked early down early in the game it looked at entirely because, you know, Illinois was up and they, they, they got up big. You know, in really? In the third quarter when they took a 30. 30, they're up 2417 and then went up first thing in the fourth quarter up 3117. Then I was like, okay, this is kind of over. USC came back, but Ulta was gonna be able to cover. So I think USC's still pretty good.
You know, I don't know if we've talked about enough of them. You know what Lincoln Riley can generally get out of quarterback play. Obviously hasn't. You know, we're a year post Ruby from Caleb Williams. I mean, there's. I think there's a crazy stat where he's got like seven quarterbacks starting games in the NFL this, this weekend.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: You got Jackson, Caleb.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: Oh, Jackson. Dart did start at usc, huh?
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he was.
[00:13:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
Spencer Radler.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts.
[00:14:01] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Oh, from Oklahoma.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Baker. Right. Baker was there for him.
[00:14:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Okay, so that's five.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: That is crazy. That is crazy.
[00:14:14] Speaker C: So it's one thing Leo Lincoln rally always does well. And then USC's obviously got that, you know, the town, the wealth of skill, talent around Southern California. So. But yeah, I mean, you, we talked about that Sunday Rome. I think you were right on that. You know, Illinois is a good team, man. They've gotten something going on there. But overall, when, when it comes to their schedule, like I was saying, hey, they're probably, you know, they're an 8 to 10 win team. You know, we're probably looking at it. I think there's still some losses on the calendar, but I think this was a really big win for Illinois and probably the spread was a little bit too big, you know, for a 9am.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: Kickoff in, in Champaign, besides the Arizona State game. I was watching the G Tech. Georgia Tech against Wake Forest.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Wake Forest gave that game away.
What are they doing throwing the ball on third and five. Even though that guy was offsides. I mean, that guy was blatantly offsides.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: But Georgia Tech is so luck to come out with that win. But I like them though, so really happy about that one.
Texas A and M and Auburn. That was pretty close as well.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: The score is a lot closer than the game. I mean, Auburn did cover the six and a half for us. I, I had Auburn in the contest plus six. So I got a push there. I, I got two, I got two pushes this week. I was on Arizona State as well. Yeah, but no, I mean, to Jason's point, I mean, Texas A M basically held Auburn to three points. I mean, there was almost like a pick six. Auburn got like a first and goal, got A touchdown kind of for late cover there.
But yeah, I mean, they dropped what, 40 on a M? What did they drop? 52, 59 on Arkansas, whatever it was.
We'll get into the games of the week. They're playing Boise State this week, but yeah, I mean, Auburn has offensive struggles. We saw it against Oklahoma. I think they've given up the last two games. 16 combined sacks if you add in the A and M and Oklahoma game. So Auburn's got a lot of problems on offensive, really good defense. But offensively they are challenged, that's for sure.
[00:16:11] Speaker C: Texas A and M though, you start looking at a little bit of their schedule. Those are looking for like, I mean they're, I think last year's Notre Dame game, like people were expecting a little more for them and then they obviously kind of surged towards middle of the season right up until the end, but they fell off a little bit. But you know, the Notre Dame win I think was, was pretty big for them because, you know, they went beat Auburn, now they got kind of a slew of SEC schools that they should beat. Mississippi State, I don't, I don't think is a, an automatic win, but I mean it's still an unranked team right now that they should win then against a Florida team with what you guys are talking about that could potentially fire their head coach. Then Arkansas right after that, who did fire their head coach. And so they basically got three very winnable games up until they go to at lsu, which is probably the, you know, maybe the toughest game on their schedule.
So you got only three ranked teams that they play left with lsu, Missouri, and then Texas at the very end of the year. So you're looking at the Texas A and M team that, you know, potentially, if you're looking at the schedule, if they take care of business in a lot of these games and they show up in these, in the couple big time primetime games they have. You know, it's a team that could compete for the SEC potentially depending where he's at. You know, Rome's shaking his head.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: I'm just saying, like, Rome's an A M hater, man.
[00:17:27] Speaker C: I know he's a hater. But you, you go into that, you go into that last, that you go into that last game versus Texas. I mean, you could be talking about, hey, that's a playing game to the College Football Playoff between Texas and Texas A and M right now.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: I don't want to talk about Texas right now. I, I, I, I, I don't know whether they're Good or not. And I'm not ready to talk about.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: I like that. I like that playing method because we, I thought we were almost there last year when Texas won A and M and Kyle, Phil is the playing game.
[00:17:52] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: I mean, going back to what Jason said, I mean, they've got three winnable games here. Mississippi State, Florida at home.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: They have three tough games after that. That's a tough stretch too.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, I mean, LSU at, LSU at Missouri. Missouri's underrated. Missouri's not a bad football team.
Really, really good. That's gonna be a tough game.
South Carolina up and down, but not.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: Hit or miss this year.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: Everybody from the SEC always frozen that FBS goal. Sanford, you know, you gotta get, you got to get in the cupcake before you play Texas. You know that's going to be a big game.
So I mean, I, I like where A and M's at. I mean, even if they lose two games, don't get to an SEC title game, the probability of them getting in the top 12, I think is still high given the fact if Notre Dame keeps winning, it only helps A and M's cause.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: Let's wrap up this recap a little bit. Who had the bigger win? Is it ole Ms. Over LSU?
Alabama over Georgia? Oregon staying alive and beating and holding off Penn State in the final seconds to keep Penn State winless against top 10 teams.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: I'm going to go Alabama.
I mean, Oregon's wins, impressive. But look, it's John, it's Franklin. He does not win. Let's just be honest, he just does not win the big games.
Franklin. Yeah, yeah, he does not win the games.
[00:19:10] Speaker C: John. John Frank is a guy that Roman would have called him, you know.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Yeah. So, I mean, I can't even pronounce the guy whose name right because he can't even win the big game. So he's not even worth pronouncing his first name. But yes, James Franklin. Was he 4 and 21 against top 10 opponents now?
Something like that.
[00:19:29] Speaker C: Something like that. And like his wins are like Boise State and whatever.
[00:19:34] Speaker A: Boise State. Yeah. Yeah. So for me it's Alabama. You go in there.
Rome, you mentioned they got whipped. I mean they got manhandled week one against Florida State. Bounce back against a cupcake team, then blow out a Wisconsin team that's having it down year in the Big Ten. But going and end a 33 game home win streak of Kirby Smart in Georgia, that's an impressive win. I didn't, I wasn't sure they could do it. They looked good they were in control that home game. It was not a fluke if you watch it. Their quarterback, Ty Simpson, I think he's an NFL quarterback.
He looks really good.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: He looks really good.
[00:20:07] Speaker A: You give him time in the pocket and you with the playmakers, they got. This is a dangerous team as far as the pass game. They do got some holes there. They can't run the ball. Their defense gives up a lot of rushing yards both to Florida State and Georgia got over 200 yards rushing. So Alabama has some issues there. They've got a big game coming up with Vanderbilt. But for me personally, I'm going to say Alabama's the biggest win. But yeah, Ole Miss and as you mentioned, Oregon's wins are impressive.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: I thought it was a really big win for Alabama.
Georgia, they kind of were on the ropes against Tennessee, but now when you look at the rest of the schedule, they got Ole Miss coming up. Auburn may or may not. It is an Auburn that could be pretty tough.
Missouri State or Mississippi State afterwards. They got Texas coming in. They got a gimme with Charlotte. But then they have Georgia Tech, which should be a really fun one to end the year.
This could be another 2, 3 losses coming up in their schedule. It's gonna be tough. And I'm really kind of curious how they kind of pan out.
[00:21:07] Speaker C: Yeah, for. For me, I would go Ole Miss, just looking at the. The history of kind of where Lane Kiffin has elevated the Ole Miss program. But they've always. They've always been a kind of couple losses away. We're like, you think they're going to take that next step? I know last year we were kind of out of. They just missed out on the College Football Playoff. You know, they were kind of one of those sct, scc to the outside looking in. I think this is a pretty big resume win for them. They beat the number four ranked team. Many people thought LSU was the best team in the SEC through these first, you know, four or five weeks of the season.
And I, I think knocking them off. And we talked about Sunday Rome, the biggest thing, man, Lane Kiffin beat his daughter's boyfriend's team or whatever was the storyline going into this game. You know, I think Lane said take the over on Twitter, though. I don't know if they hit the over. I'd have to check out.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: No, they didn't get that, dude.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: No one wanted to score. I think. I think Ole Miss was about to score on two touchdowns. I think it was a turnover, what in the end zone and like a fumble within, like the Five yard line, something like that.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: It's tough to score against lsu, man. It really is. But, you know, it's interesting, guys, because, you know, I was in Vegas, you know, they were talking about James Franklin and Penn State, you know, who would be a possible good replacement for him. And the name Lane Kiffin popped up. You know, if Penn State was to be one with Lane Kiffin, I can't see would be. Would he be a good hire? Because, I mean, who, I mean, who really could take over that program?
I mean, given where they're at right.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Now, he doesn't look like a Penn State guy.
[00:22:33] Speaker C: It's just crazy to me to even talk like that. I, I get, I get the James Franklin talk about has it won the big game and all. But, like, where was Penn State for like the last, like, 25, 30 years? Like, you're holding on to when Penn State.
Yeah, great. What? Yeah, but that was in the 80s, the late 80s, early 90s. Like, I mean, Penn State was not this, like, national juggernaut. It's like, like everyone thinks they were. They're thinking of a different time, you know, the same way Alabama thought they were, like, you know, Alabama from the.
[00:23:02] Speaker B: 60S and 70s, trash for 30 years. Yeah, right.
[00:23:05] Speaker C: And so, like, Penn State, like James Franklin has brought this program back to a relevance in there. Now, he hasn't won, you know, the biggest games when they needed to. Okay, but. And, and there's going to be time for him to do that. But those are those things where, like, fan bases want to be happier than happy. I mean, you're the number three.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Happy Valley. It is. Happy Valley.
[00:23:24] Speaker C: It is. But you're the number.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: You're the Whiteout.
[00:23:27] Speaker C: You're basically the number three team in the Big Ten after Michigan and Ohio State. And then it's Penn State at this point. Like, you're not even having USC outshine you for the most part, since they've joined the conference. I mean, maybe we're talking Oregon can break through, but I mean, you're still talking about from a Midwest brand. You know, you're, you are at that echelon. So what, what, what's one of these head coaches that I get more, more out of, out of a Penn State team? Like, those are the questions, because I think you, you look ahead to them. They pretty much got one game coming up that I would say that's like, hey, this is a statement game. They got to play Ohio State. They beat Ohio State. Everyone else is talking to. They lose to Ohio State.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Is that out of Ohio State?
[00:24:08] Speaker C: It is at Ohio State. So they lose at Ohio State, people are gonna be talking about that. But then he could still win out and go 10 and 2 or whatever. And they're gonna be in the playoffs still.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: So I, I think, I mean, yeah, if we look at Penn State, I think that's the thing. Like they are a 10, 10, 10 win team, they're a playoff team. But are they anything beyond that? And as Jason, you mentioned, they, they feel like they, I mean, I think we both, maybe all three of us picked them to win the national title this year. And honestly I, I didn't feel comfortable doing it just because of James Franklin's history there. I mean they're paying three. They basically took Jim Knowles from Ohio state, paid him 3 million to be their defensive coordinator. Their defense was fine, but their offense was just terrible for three quarters. They got three points against an Oregon team that, you know, is kind of in a rebuild. I mean, we kind of talked about it. Dante Moore looked like the better quarterback in this game. You got Joe Aller supposed to be what, a first round draft pick? I think Penn State has a ton of issues. I agree. Like where do they go if they move off James Franklin because they were a 7, 8 win team at best. Now they're constantly 10, 11 games and they just can't beat Ohio State, Michigan.
But unfortunately for them, that's, you know, who they're going to end up either playing in a playoff or playing in a Big Ten game.
I don't know. Penn State, to me, what do you do? They were nobody for 30 years. Joe Paul in the 90s 80s was like 30 years, man.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: It was more like a 10 year gap. They weren't good, but they were pretty decent. Even in like they were bad.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: And then they hired Bill o' Brien and he got him. Okay, okay. And then he took the job with the Texans and then James Franklin came from Vanderbilt. James Franklin could coach like he was the last guy to win at Vanderbilt.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: So yeah, I don't know if we had Penn State winning the championship. I think I picked them at least like they should be winning the championship because they, they're bringing a lot of guys back. And now's the time with like, with, with all the other teams in their division, quote unquote, being down with the turnover.
But with this loss though, do you got them beating Ohio State?
They have Indiana coming in. We'll see how they look in. You know, Indiana's better than them too. Nebraska is, has their best offense in years. They actually look pretty dominant.
They're a pretty strong team. And then they finish off with Rutgers like you're looking at. It might be what, maybe two or three more losses.
[00:26:29] Speaker C: Sorry, I was doing some research because Rome disagree with us. So the last time Penn State won the national championship.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: I wasn't saying that.
[00:26:37] Speaker C: Okay, well I'll say that. Last time they won the national championship, 1986.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: That's the year I was born. And you were born too, Rome.
[00:26:46] Speaker C: Yeah, so. So I was one. So I'll just put that there.
But to Rome's point though, Joe Pa in 2009, his third to last season they were 11 and 2. So he had back to back 11 win seasons in 08 and 09.
Then they went 7 and 6, 9 and 4.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: That's when the scandal broke, right? Yeah, they kind of program took a.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Grandpa Joe ignored a lot of touching from the other coach.
[00:27:14] Speaker C: So Bill, Bill o' Brien had eight and four, seven and five teams after they lost basically everyone after the scandal. James Franklin comes in, has a pair of seven and six seasons, then gets to him 11 wins and has back to back 11 seasons. So they the most disappointing season was the COVID year. They went 4 and 5 and then they've kind of bounced back the last three years.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: So I mean disappointing it for everybody.
[00:27:34] Speaker C: Right. So but I mean if you look at the air like the 90s with Joe Paul like hey they were like a 9, 10 win team then in 2000, 2001 they're a 5 win team, you know, 3 win team in O3, 4 win team in O4, then they kind of pop back into it. So like I'm saying it wasn't always smooth sailing for such a legacy team and a brand. So you're talking about a guy for James Franklin that hey, he's last three years he's won 10 plus games and got the program to a level that has this recruit comments. If he's put him in the playoff every year, I mean that's it that it's a lot of questions except for just to replace a guy at a certain point.
[00:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:11] Speaker C: Because the Big Ten is not easy. This isn't the Big Ten of like 10 years ago like the Big Tens.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: Yeah, the Big Ten is hard.
[00:28:18] Speaker C: It's, it's, it's pro. It could be the SEC is going to argue that they're the hardest conference out there. But the Big Ten's got a ton of great teams too and there's more teams and there's some cupcakes in there. But like the Big Ten has A lot of top tier programs and now the Big Ten.
[00:28:32] Speaker A: The Big Ten is legit deep. I mean, the only. Yeah, we'll get on. The only team in the Big Ten that's really been consistent because Michigan's had some down years is really Ohio State. Ohio State really, really has been consistent for 25, 30 years. Michigan, after Carr left, it had some down years. Penn State is mentioned there.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: You know what? That's the funny part. I used to be a big Jim Trestle guy, so for a big period.
[00:28:57] Speaker A: Of time, and he constantly won 10, 11, 12 games, was giving out free tattoos. So. Hey, what are you gonna do?
[00:29:05] Speaker B: All right, any more comments from week five before we head to your games of the week, Aaron?
[00:29:10] Speaker A: I think we covered everything, Rome. I mean.
[00:29:14] Speaker B: Oh, by the way, we. We never talked about, like, the whole court issue that affected about two dozen players in the NCAA regarding whether they can continue playing on their, like, sixth and seventh year of eligibility.
Obviously they won that because Pavia and Anderbilt are still playing.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm glad they won. Yeah.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: All right, Jason.
[00:29:38] Speaker C: No, I was gonna say, I guess we still got like three, four years of eligibility left for the three of us too, you know, so we get out there and.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: Dude, I wish I could, but I just roams.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: Roams out.
[00:29:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Robe's out.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Taking a medical red shirt.
[00:29:51] Speaker C: The knee shot for Ro.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: I would be in and out of, like the ir, man.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: It.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: It just sucks.
It just sucks. And I didn't even do anything.
Tripped over at Matt.
Go figure.
All right, let's take a good break and we come back. Errands, Games to watch.
Games of the week.
All right, it is time for Aaron's college football games of the week. How did you do last week, Aaron, with the picks and the locks you gave us? Because I did. I. I did keep track. I'm. I just don't have it in front of.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, last week I gave you 13 games plus a bonus which was your UCLA team, which did cover. I told you.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: Actually, I do have it.
Because you had three locks. You had the ASU and.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: Oh, the locks. The locks were. Yeah, that was a push.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: The USC in Illinois.
[00:30:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:55] Speaker B: Which did hit.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Jason wasn't here.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: The opposite. And then Penn State, Oregon.
I don't know what you had on that one. Actually. You had Penn State minus three and a half.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I had Penn State in that one.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: That was close one, but that was tough.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: I think I had Ole Miss in there as well. But I could be wrong.
[00:31:14] Speaker B: You had Ole Miss minus one and a half.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: You had that as game of the week.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: Okay, that makes, that makes a little sense. I remember. So last week's games went seven wins, six losses, one push, four. So winning week, I mean, we started out really hot.
Kind of cooled down with, you know, Penn State and Georgia in the bed there late.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: You did call the Pittsburgh upset though, huh?
[00:31:37] Speaker A: Pittsburgh came back and lost that game. They gave. They gave that game away, dude. They were up 17,0 in the first quarter. Dude, I'm not even gonna go into that. Coach. That coach. I mean, speaking of coaches that need to.
Need to get canned, that guy.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: Do you remember what your bonus game of the week was?
[00:31:55] Speaker A: Ucla, man.
[00:31:56] Speaker B: Yeah. How'd that go?
[00:31:57] Speaker A: They covered. Like I said, they were down 170 but came back and lost 17.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: I was watching the game, man. I was watching it brutal.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: UCLA plus six, man, covered.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: They're playing Penn State this week and the Rose Bowl.
[00:32:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it's.
I'm not touching that one.
[00:32:16] Speaker B: I'm thinking about taking my daughter to a cow game this weekend on Saturday.
Tickets in the end zone, like 10 rows up, $35.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: I think it'd be a good game. Rome. That's gonna be. That's gonna be a bonus. I think it's gonna be a bonus play. I'm just, you know, hold out for that one.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Should I take her to a college game? I don't know how college games are. I haven't been to A1, obviously, since UCLA is to sell out the Rose bowl, because now it's different.
[00:32:40] Speaker C: So what year, what year was that?
[00:32:42] Speaker B: It was just like, this is like six years ago, most recently. That's why it's like, it blows my mind that, like, it's so dire right now. It's like, what? I was just there.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: Roma's talking about going to.
Was it Nebraska? Ucla. I told them, dude, you don't even buy. Dude.
[00:32:57] Speaker B: Let's go, guys. Let's go. The whole podcast.
I'll do a lot. A last minute ditch effort to try to get some media passes or something.
[00:33:05] Speaker C: We don't need media passes. We just walk in. They'll let you walk in, in the Rose Bowl. Got it. They'd say, like, it's. It's open seating, first come, first serve where you can go.
Like, I, I think they just. I think they just give the tickets away. I think you just go in.
[00:33:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I think you can just print your own media pass and you're in. You can say whatever label you want. And hey, we're happy to have you here and covering the game.
[00:33:26] Speaker C: I think Rome, I can't pull it off, but I think you can get like the old kind of schoolboy hat with little media like cardboard thing on this, on the slit on the side, you know, where it says like media just on the top. You could probably get one of those and go through the bra with it.
[00:33:39] Speaker A: You know what I'm talking about?
[00:33:40] Speaker C: You know, old school, like 1920s reporter or something.
[00:33:42] Speaker A: No, no.
[00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
Football game, huh?
[00:33:46] Speaker C: 100.
Wait, at what point is UCLA going to be considered to be relegation out of the Big Ten at this point? Man, you got your own four. You've only scored 57 points the entire season.
[00:33:57] Speaker B: Dude, this has been pretty embarrassing, but, like, USC fans are not too far behind because they were ragging on the team on Social this past week. Like, we traded this. Like UCLA and USC just ripped apart the PAC12 to just have these fucking seasons. These seasons of mediocrity. Like, either the Pac 12 was really bad or it's just a down year for everyone that used to be in the PAC 12.
[00:34:19] Speaker C: Well, no, because Oregon came in and it was just fine, bro.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: Oregon's the only consistent one. Oregon's the only one that's like.
[00:34:26] Speaker A: Oregon's been good in the Pac 12 for a while. I mean, they're the only team to represent the Pac12 in the playoff. Right. The College Football Playoff, just not winning.
[00:34:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
All right.
[00:34:35] Speaker A: Since USC last made it there against Texas, is that the last time another team outside of Oregon was in the playoff from the PAC 12?
Sounds 20 years.
[00:34:43] Speaker C: Well, no. Washington.
[00:34:45] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go.
[00:34:47] Speaker B: Oh, they got blown out.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:49] Speaker B: All right, Aaron.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: Twice.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: So, yeah, so this is your smallest list. You can see the imprint from last week where we had a season high 13 games.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I just didn't. I didn't put a lot of games on their Rome. So maybe I got more than one bonus game this week. Maybe.
[00:35:06] Speaker B: Okay, cool. There's no. These are all Saturday games. No Friday games.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: Correct, the Friday games.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: So this is the first time this year that we are not featuring a Friday game.
[00:35:18] Speaker C: A lot.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: A lot of.
[00:35:19] Speaker C: A lot of.
[00:35:22] Speaker A: A lot of garbage on Friday.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I was gonna say, I always say, like, you got New Mexico State, San Jose State, Colorado State, San Diego State. It's like the Mountain West Special or the American Football Conference too.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: But yeah, I guess the old Mountain west, soon to be Pac 12. Right. Or whatever. These guys are going.
[00:35:38] Speaker B: The new Pac 12. Yeah.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it's a lot of bad games on Friday night. Rome I mean, I, I don't care to watch any of them, so I'm not gonna put the audience through it.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: All right, well, take it away then. These are Aaron's eight games to watch this weekend, starting off with Iowa State against Cincinnati. Take it away.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: Aaron Rome, I know you love Iowa State. I mean, I might, it might be one of your picks, but I'm gonna, I'm hoping to change your opinion on that because I like Cincinnati here. I watched him last week against Kansas who I had in the, the contest for us.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:13] Speaker A: And they looked really, really good. I mean, I watched that game. Kansas is a solid football team. Played Missouri tough. Cincinnati's only loss was a three point defeat to Nebraska. The opening game of the year. Iowa State's undefeated, going on the road here. I like Cincinnati. Their quarterback of their offense is really explosive. Iowa State struggles to score the ball.
I think Cincinnati wins this game. That's why they're a slight favorite. I like Cincinnati to cover here.
[00:36:37] Speaker B: Is that how you spell Cincinnati?
[00:36:40] Speaker A: You could double check, triple check. I hope you know wrong. Okay.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I was actually looking at that when he sent in the, the spreads for the Westgate super contest. And I haven't seen anything of Cincinnati yet this year, so I, I don't know whether to pick it or not.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: I've been impressed with them. I watched a little bit of the opener against Nebraska and I watched a lot of the game last week against Kansas. I don't know what Kansas was doing defensively. Just terrible, terrible defensive game plan really cost us there.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: But I was impressed by Cincinnati. So they'll probably be part of my own personal seven this week in my own Westgate.
So I like Cincinnati here to cover the one and a half at home and get the victory. Wow.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: Okay, next game, Virginia plus seven against Louisville.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: Virginia Rome coming off the huge, huge upset win at home against Florida State last Friday.
Louisville coming off a come behind, come from behind victory at Pittsburgh. They were down 170 in that first quarter. Pittsburgh's coach with his decision making kind of gave that game away. Plus turnovers. I think they had two turnovers, three errors in the special teams. It's amazing Pittsburgh didn't win that game. Damn shame, I'll tell you that.
Virginia not a very good team defensively. Good offensively. Louisville kind of up and down offensively, what they can do. Kind of surprised to see Virginia getting seven points here.
[00:38:02] Speaker B: That's a lot.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Seems like a lot. I'm going to ride of them. If you don't get pressure on the Quarterback. They're a tough team to stop. I mean, Florida State did not get a lot of pressure on the qb. He had a nice game running the ball and throwing the ball. If Louisville doesn't get pressure on them. Virginia like in score. I think they have the number one of the top five 10 offenses in college football together, averaging almost 40 points a game.
Over 40 to be exact.
I like Virginia +7 here.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: Wow. Virginia's number 24. I thought Louisville would be ranked.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: Louisville's got to be ranked, right?
[00:38:38] Speaker B: No, no. Are you sure they should be? I think they're actually pretty decent.
[00:38:43] Speaker C: They haven't beaten anyone. They've beaten Eastern Kentucky, James Madison, Bowling Green, and then Pitt was their biggest victory. So.
[00:38:51] Speaker A: So no. Love Pitts. So if Louisville's not In the top 25, they beat Virginia.
[00:38:56] Speaker C: They will be ranked.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
I actually think if Cincinnati pulls it off, that's a pretty decent upset over Iowa State. Iowa State is number 14 in the country right now.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I think Cincinnati wins that game and probably sneaks into the polls next week at 23, 24.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: Okay, cool. So Virginia takes care of business against Louisville, which you were up on the covers.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: At least. Covers. At least Covers.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: Covers. Okay, next game, I think.
[00:39:25] Speaker A: Is this one of the more interesting games of the week? I like to get your guys's take on it. Texas 7 point favorite going into Florida. We mentioned in the first segment Billy Napier on the hot seat. Both teams coming in with a bye week.
I'm pitting Texas on upset alert. I think Billy Napier is going to throw everything he's got into this game. His job is on the line.
This is a must win for him. He calls the plays. He's offensive coordinator. This is a really, really good defense. I think it's gonna be a low scoring, grinded out game.
I like Florida to cover the seven points and I'm tempted to take Florida to win outright. I mean, it's as crazy as it sounds. I haven't been impressed with Texas. I mean, I know they beat Sam Houston State, but come on. I mean, even we could beat Sam Houston State, guys. We could put together a group of 50 guys that could beat those dudes.
I, I think Florida's. I think Florida's gonna get up for this game because I would like to get you guys to take. I think Billy Napier knows this is winner, winner or go home for him. Really. I mean, it is winter. Pack your bags and get out of Gainesville because this is a must win or at least keep it very, very competitive to save his job. Given what we're seeing in the college football landscape.
[00:40:33] Speaker C: I agree with you, Aaron. I, I, I don't know if you go full upset alert, but I think it's more competitive. And I don't know if Texas has shown enough offensively when they've played. I mean, I guess they're only one real test so far this year was Ohio State, but I think there's a ton more questions on archbatting and what he's able to do. Florida does have, like, athletes. They got guys and I think there has, there's never been a question of recruiting with them, but they've always just seemed to be missing some portion of it. I do think Florida gets up. I would take Florida with the points too. I don't think they upset them, but I think the game's closer than what Texas is getting.
[00:41:11] Speaker B: That's, this is crazy talk here. So, like Florida, I don't think their losses have been too crazy. Right. They beat out a nobody in week one.
They lost a close one against South Florida, but they were ranked very shortly. That was a really good game. They lost a good game against lsu and people were talking on lsu, like how they should have won more. They didn't, they didn't do enough. Or Florida had a chance to still pull that out of their ass. And then they play a really tough Miami team, which, you know, people are taking the spread on that one too. It's just been a tough schedule so far.
I, I know they're one and three, but that's a tough one and three.
[00:41:48] Speaker C: It only gets tough. It only gets tougher. I, I, they might have the toughest schedule in foot in college football.
[00:41:53] Speaker B: Tough one.
[00:41:54] Speaker C: I mean, you, they, they're gonna have Texas A M after this. Two weeks to get Georgia. They end in Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida State. Like, you know, Texas doesn't get this kind of, get this type of schedule in the sec.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the Florida schedule is brutal. I mean, that South Florida loss was tough. You mentioned rome. They played LSU tough. Five turnovers was the difference there. Miami, they were down 13 to 7 midway through the third quarter. Like Jason said, they've got athletes, they've got dogs. They just haven't executed at a high level. I think coming off the bye week helps them execute a little bit better. I like them here. Plus seven.
And you know, Gainesville is just another place. I mean, Texas has not really traveled anywhere in the SEC to play anybody outside of Kyle Field last year. Texas A&M, 100,000 screaming fans. This is gonna Be a tough game for Texas and Archie Arch Manning.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: I know I like Texas but I don't even know how good Texas is yet. This is a. Stay away from me. I would not touch, touch this with a 10 foot pole.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: This feels a lot, I think Jason said this feels a lot like usc, Illinois, where it's like, you know, one team's feeling good, the other team's looking like not so good.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: I think good. I, I don't think either team's feeling good.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: I think if you're Florida, you get a bye week and you don't lose the game, you're feeling good. To me, the way they've been going, cool.
Next game.
Next game.
The game of the year in the acc. No doubt about it. This is the game right here. Miami, Florida State.
Miami coming off a bye week. Rome, you mentioned they've coming off big wins against Notre Dame already this year. South Florida, they've blown them out. I mean Miami's blowing out everybody really except for Notre Dame which they were up with two scores there.
Florida State beat Alabama, took it to them in week one, played two cupcakes in the next two games, lost a tough one at Virginia. I like Florida State to cover here.
I'm going to say this. I think Miami wins a one or two point game. Florida State covers. So I like the Seminoles here plus four and a half.
I'll say it goes, I'll say the final score is 28, 27. Lean towards Miami slightly winning this game. Florida State's definitely going to cover this one. Maybe just wins it outright as well.
Okay, another big game here, Rome. Vanderbilt. I saw your boy from Vanderbilt, Pavia said, hey, if we play our game it won't even be close. So he's already given bulletin board material to Alabama after upsetting him last year.
Oh man, ten and a half points is a lot here. Vanderbilt's not a bad football team, but I don't know if they can stop Alabama. I'm not sure if Alabama can stop with me there. I mean the over 55 and a half looks pretty good. I like over 55 and a half.
I, I think what Pavia said about, you know, we play our game, this won't be closed. I think Alabama is going to get up for this game. I'm going to take Alabama 10 and a half here. I like really take on this. Yeah, I think that, you know, bulletin board material, Alabama's, they got this game circled and it's not every year you hear Alabama got Vanderbilt circled on their schedule.
[00:45:04] Speaker B: Isn't Vanderbilt better than last year though.
[00:45:07] Speaker A: I do think they are, yes. I think Alabama's better too though right now they look good.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: The last few weeks have turned my opinion around on them. But ten and a half though, this, this feels more like a touchdown, maybe a field goal type of game.
Yeah, it's just a ass whip in a return.
[00:45:26] Speaker C: I don't think it's an asshole, but I think it's going to be a close game. So that's, that's, that's what's scaring it off to me where like I do think Alabama wins the game but again 10 and a half points is quite a lot of bit for a Vanderbilt team that you know they can score, they can get up and down the field and you know, for, for Alabama like, you know they've kept most of these like opponents like you know, pretty low scoring. Obviously it was a good Georgia team with that Florida State team kind of got up and down with them.
I don't know. To me it's a close game and I, And I think 10 of points is just too much.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean 10 and a half. I mean Vanderbilt what their biggest wins, South Carolina this year.
Alabama's really battle tested.
I, I just feel like Vanderbilt's gonna turn the ball over a few times. I, I like Alabama here in a high scoring game, 44, 27. I think it's a high scoring game. I feel real comfortable in the over 55 and a half. 44, 27. I think I think Alabama can score.
Vanderbilt you guys mentioned could score. I think the difference is Vanderbilt just turns the ball over a couple times more leading to quick scores for Alabama. I'm going to take Alabama ten and a half here.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: Okay. All right.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: Next Texas Tech against Houston. Houston coming off what overtime win Friday against an 05 Oregon State team. Texas Tech coming off a bye week after beating Jason's West Coast Utah Utes.
I like, I like Texas Tech -11. I think they're the real deal. That divas is legit. They got even the backup quarterbacks really good in Houston to me hasn't really played anybody. Their biggest wins of the year really against Oregon State 0 and 5 and Colorado, that's what, 2 and 3. I like Texas Tech here minus 11 to get the job done against Houston.
All right, big game here.
I'm curious to see what Jason likes on the side before I really get on it. I'm kind of split here, but you got Boise State at 20 and a half point underdog going into South Bend to take on Notre Dame.
Jason, who you got, who you got covering the spread here? Because this is a lot of points, 20 and a half against the Boise State team that's regrouped from that week one loss against South Florida.
[00:47:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I know you were. I knew you're gonna come to me on this one, Aaron. I don't have any sort of feeling like I did a week ago against Arkansas, because if you would ask me in Week one, I'm like, man, Notre Dame's really going to put a two of this. Boise, they couldn't get more than seven points or whatever in that first tilt. It's just, it's just too many for a Notre Dame defense that is clearly not as good as it was last year. And I don't know if it's just, you know, if it's Al Golden. Obviously you lost guys to the NFL, Xavier Watts and, and other people on that Notre Dame defense. But every team, for the most part, has been able to get up and down on this Notre Dame defense. Where a year ago I would have said that was detrimental to Notre Dame's chances because the defense is what kept them in a ton of those games with, you know, just waiting for Riley Leonard to run around.
Yeah, I, I think that's just too many points. I would probably take, I think Notre Dame wins the game, but I would take Boise State 20 and a half if you're telling me to play it.
[00:48:35] Speaker B: So if you guys are looking at these games, Boise has not done much against the only really good team that he played with, South Florida.
Other than that, though, yeah, they, they haven't.
[00:48:47] Speaker C: I, I, I just feel like if this was last year's Notre Dame defense, it, I would be much more confident with this year's Notre Dame offense to cover that spread. Yeah, they have been, they have been exposed to, you know, many teams so far. Like, even early in that Arkansas game, it was never really close, but I mean, they were getting the ball up and down. Texas A and M went up and down. Miami obviously did too. I think there's just too big, too big of a window for this to be, hey, Notre dame wins by 14 or something like that, where it's, it's there like 20 and a half just seems like like a ton of points they'd have to overcome in this game.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: To me, I agree. I, I lean towards Boise State here covering the 20 and a half too. I think, regardless, if Notre Dame jumps up 21, 28 points, I think Boise State can score. Boise State can get 20 points in this game.
I Feel like Notre dame probably gets 37. So I'm leaning towards a 37 to 20 Notre Dame victory here. I would take the 20 and a half. This defense has given up points, so that's in. Boise State has, you know, Rome, you said they scored seven against South Florida. South Florida, that's a good defense. They played against some bad teams, but I think they built some confidence offensively. They're averaging what, almost nearly 50 points here, it looks like in the last three games.
So I, I, I feel like they can get 20 points against Notre Dame and Notre Dame basically gets 35, 40.
In order for Notre Dame really to cover a game like this, they can't turn the ball over and they have to force turnovers. They got to play nearly perfect. I mean, three touchdowns is a lot against a Boise State team that was considered as the group of five top team preseason for the playoff. After that loss to South Florida, that kind of diminished. But yeah, Boise State's got some talent. They've been in some big games. They performed well against big time opponents before.
I'll say Notre Dame wins here. Like I said, 37, 20. I'll take 20 and a half points at Boise State.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: 37, 20.
All right.
Your last game of the week.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: Last game, Rome. Is Mississippi State against Texas A M. I know you're a Texas A and M hater, Rome, maybe because I like them and you like Texas. I don't know, maybe that's that where the future comes in.
But Mississippi State is, you know, they've had some good games this year. I mean, they're coming off seven. The seven point loss in overtime to Tennessee beat, beat Arizona State earlier in the year. We called that upset 14 points. 14. 14 points is a lot here. I'm worried because this is the first real game for Mississippi State on the road.
So with that being said, I'm going A and M here, -14. I just don't trust Mississippi State in the first big game on the A and M has looked good, has a favorable schedule going forward. Now that they've gotten past Notre Dame, they got Florida coming up who like we mentioned, could have a replacement coach by the time they meet up. A and M's rolling right now. This is a spot where I think Elko gets that defense fired up going. I like Texas A and M minus 14 to take care of business against Mississippi State.
[00:51:54] Speaker C: It's a lot of, it's a lot of points. But I do agree with Aaron on this one and I think to Aaron's point about this being really the first road test for Mississippi State, you know, at home, tough game against Tennessee, who's a pretty good team last week, you know, lose by seven. But they, you know, they did have the advantage at home. Were able to get some points up and down and that, that the Arizona State game that they had at home earlier in the year, super close game. I think this Texas A and M team is, is obviously the best opponent that Mississippi say has played so far. And I think, you know, it's a tough place to play at Texas A M and I think that comes into a little more, you know, turning the ball over. A couple things happen like that. It turns it into more than a 2, 2 possession game. And I, and I take, I take this a ML I agree with Aaron on this.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: And it's a night game too, so that makes it even a little more difficult too. At A&M, 110,000 screaming fans.
I think Mississippi State is going to be and over the head in this game. Like I said, I like, I like A and M.
[00:52:55] Speaker B: All right.
Got any bonus coverage for us or you want to give us our. Your locks? Locks of the week.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: Locks of the week. Wow.
Oh, man.
So I'll take. I'll put Cincinnati in there against Iowa State.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:53:15] Speaker A: Give me Florida State as a lock. Four and a half against Miami.
I'm going to take the Florida Gators as well, plus seven.
[00:53:24] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:53:25] Speaker A: I'm going to. I'm going to back Billy Napier. Let's see if he lets me down. If he does, then he can, he can hit the hay, get out of town. I'll back him here. That's my three games. I really like a M minus 14 too.
[00:53:40] Speaker B: I'm not so much on that A M pick, but. All right, so you got Cincinnati minus one and a half, Florida plus seven and Florida State plus four and a half against Miami.
[00:53:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:50] Speaker B: You got Florida State winning that or you got Miami still winning that in a close one? You gave me the score of 28 to 27.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: I think. I think Miami. I think Miami wins. Why? I think Miami wins by a point.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: All right, got it. Awesome. Any bonus games?
[00:54:04] Speaker A: Bonus games for you? Rome, you mentioned you might be going to Duke versus Cal.
[00:54:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:08] Speaker A: Cal's getting three points here. Cal's gonna win outright. They're gonna win this game. I mean, I've been high on Cal all year and as soon as I really, really got high on them, they laid what that 34 to 0 egg against.
I can't even remember.
[00:54:22] Speaker B: You know, it sucks because I was, I, I had Your undefeated, like, little clip for cower. Like that one, one. One or two loss. And I was gonna post it, and then.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: Yeah, then they. Leo State against San Diego State. Oh, my God, I can't believe that, dude.
[00:54:35] Speaker B: And I was like, all right, maybe I'll probably still post it maybe after another win or two. Because it's still good. It's still good.
[00:54:42] Speaker A: I. Dude, I can't believe. I mean, that was. That was as bad as the. You know, talking about the Falcons losing the Carolina in the NFL 30 0. I. I couldn't believe Cal got me 34. Nothing in that game. Bounce back last week and beat Boston College. They'll beat Duke at home, plus three.
[00:54:56] Speaker B: All right, so you got Cal minus three, plus three.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: Plus they're gonna. They're gonna win that game out, right? Against Duke.
[00:55:04] Speaker B: Nice. That's a Saturday night.
Just for shits and giggles, how much does Penn State beat UCLA this weekend?
[00:55:15] Speaker A: At least by 30.
All right, what do you think, Jason?
I mean, it's 25 and a half the spread, right? 24 and a half.
[00:55:26] Speaker C: Yeah. I think they're either trying to prove a point that came after that loss.
Yeah, I think. I think Penn State covers that.
[00:55:33] Speaker A: I. I can't. I backed UCLA last week. Rome. I can't do it again.
[00:55:38] Speaker C: Aaron, I want you to know about a bonus terrible game to look at of two legendary coaches at 9:00am 1 and 3 Clemson versus 2 and 2 North Carolina.
[00:55:52] Speaker B: Oh, that's actually kind of good.
[00:55:54] Speaker C: I'm. I'm just. I'm. I don't know. You know, who do you like?
[00:55:58] Speaker A: Who do you like in that side?
[00:55:59] Speaker C: I'm gonna be honest. Like, I think the spread's at, like, 14 and a half right now for Clemson. That seems way too high for the Clemson team that I've seen play so far. Even with how bad the. The Belichick defense has been in two different games that they lost this year.
I think it was underreported that. That Chapel Bill got two wins out of during those couple weeks against some, like, a bad Richmond team or something else after that. But I don't know, man. It feels like old Bill can cover the spread here in this one.
[00:56:30] Speaker A: You know, I'm gonna take Rome's line here. That's. That's a. Stay away from me. I'm not even touching that one.
You know, these are just two bad football teams. It definitely doesn't make the watch list, but, I mean, yeah, Clemson, they've kind of fallen apart here, but Rome, you're looking for another game Here to keep an eye on. I, I was going to add it to the games to watch. It looks like it kicks off. It's a 9am game Baylor at home against Kansas State.
Kansas State got off to a terrible start after losing in Ireland. It seems like everybody that goes to Ireland and loses has a terrible season.
Went into a bye week. Rebounded last week against Central Florida. Your boy was it Scott Frost over there. So I'd like to Kansas State to cover the six and a half against Baylor and win outright at Baylor. That's a bonus game for people.
[00:57:25] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:57:25] Speaker A: If they're looking for so two, two bonus games. Two dogs. Cal plus three, Kansas State plus six and a half. I like both dogs to win outright as well.
And I would lean towards Jason taking North Carolina plus 14. If you had.
[00:57:40] Speaker B: If I had it there.
[00:57:41] Speaker A: I mean I don't know.
[00:57:42] Speaker C: I'm just, I'm just, I'm just throwing it out there.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: It just seemed like so damn terrible though.
[00:57:47] Speaker C: Just seemed like a compelling bad football game. At 9am on a Saturday. You flip the TV on and we're going to be talking about these head coaches who just got programs.
[00:57:55] Speaker A: What game do we have? Good. That's kicking off at 9:00am oh, Cincinnati, Iowa State. So that's the one I'll be watching since it's on the list.
[00:58:04] Speaker B: I'm just looking at all the games now. I'm seeing what, what Wisconsin visits Michigan and trying to see who Nebraska faces. Michigan State. It's weird weekend.
[00:58:16] Speaker C: A little tough to compete with last weekend. When you talk about the caliber of, you know, Big Time Top 25 matchups that were at last weekend. So a little bit of a letdown I think this weekend versus last week.
[00:58:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I think as far as marquee teams. Yeah. But I think we have some good games here like we talked about.
I mean Florida, Texas. I don't know how good it's going to be. It's compelling.
I think Florida State and Miami is gonna be really good and you guys both think. And I think it's gonna be a good game. Vanderbilt, Alabama is going to be really intriguing game.
Vanderbilt, you know what 5 and L going in this game.
[00:58:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I, I just don't know how good Alabama's defense is. I haven't watched the games that closely.
[00:58:57] Speaker A: They just had a defensive player get hurt too. I think he's out for the year.
[00:59:00] Speaker B: Because Pavia and his wide receivers, they're just clicking on all cylinders right now. They just got a good flow. This G be like the last Tara with this current group before they see some turnover. So.
[00:59:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see. I mean I'm curious to see how they do on the road here at Alabama. I mean I know they won at South Carolina.
That quarterback, like I said Sellers got knocked out early in that game of a concussion.
Alabama, I mean Alabama's got a lot to prove. I mean it's not every, not every year if ever has Alabama ever had to get up for Vanderbilt. But they got to now. I mean they lose back to back games against Vanderbilt, I don't care what they did against Georgia. All that mojo is gone.
[00:59:41] Speaker B: I'm taking the take Bandy with the points for this week though.
[00:59:44] Speaker A: Look at. I'm taking Alabama. But I'm, I'm gonna low key. I want Vanderbilt to win outright so I, I would gladly take a loss there.
[00:59:52] Speaker B: This guy, you definitely do bets like that all the time. It just blows my mind just wishing.
[00:59:58] Speaker C: Ill will upon Kaylin DeBoer and the poor people that are to come after him.
[01:00:02] Speaker A: And I like Kaylan Deborah, man, but just Alabama's just not a good fit for him. But he can coach. He's a good coach. No. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: It's just not a good fit. Yeah.
All right. Maybe, maybe.
[01:00:13] Speaker A: Well, since. Well, I'll say this. You know, you guys dismiss Elaine kid from there but Kellen DeBoer to Penn State makes a ton of sense because I mean he can win big games unlike James Franklin.
[01:00:22] Speaker B: So he feels like a better passega.
[01:00:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he does. He does.
[01:00:26] Speaker B: Any last comments?
Beautiful. All right, we recapped College Football Week 5 and got Aaron's college football games of the week. We are going to post this out on the socials.
We haven't done your record on the socials but we've been kind of like talking about in the, in the descriptions. But we'll get those games of the week. I'm trying to figure out how to like to line it up so we can get like the.
Your bets on the same page. I haven't felt like a.
[01:00:50] Speaker A: So the record, Roman, if you want to write it down. Updated record for games of the week plus bonus, whatever you want to call it. 34 wins, 26 losses, two pushes.
[01:01:04] Speaker B: Nice.
You're counting your bonus coverage.
[01:01:09] Speaker A: Well, we release it. It's. It's on the audio, man.
[01:01:12] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:01:13] Speaker A: We don't hide from what's on the audio here.
[01:01:17] Speaker B: All right, cool. Well also congrats on you taking first place in the against the spread contest.
You're now the leader, the season leader and you tied Jason's best Week mark with his week one.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: We're talking NFL, though, right? NFL.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: NFL, yeah. So.
[01:01:40] Speaker A: You know, we had.
[01:01:42] Speaker C: We had Sniper west up against it, man, he came in. I think he only won six games and only had a six winner.
[01:01:47] Speaker B: Six and nine.
[01:01:48] Speaker A: He.
[01:01:48] Speaker B: He joined the club.
[01:01:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:01:50] Speaker B: Everyone's got a six, nine group.
[01:01:51] Speaker C: It's tough when you make him choose every game, you know, but you could be picking.
[01:01:55] Speaker B: He was. He was 4 out of 6 on his overs over under side picks, I think.
[01:02:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I think the prop stuff, I think was. Was very. Was very good where he was at.
[01:02:05] Speaker B: It's five out of seven, actually. Yeah.
[01:02:06] Speaker C: Okay. It was good.
[01:02:08] Speaker B: Pretty good stuff.
His misses were like, pretty. Pretty big Mrs.
[01:02:15] Speaker A: Roman. You know, we'll get into the NFL coverage tomorrow. But, I mean, I started out, I don't know what you guys were, but I was like, damn, I'm about to, you know, crap the bed again.
I pulled it. Jason. The afternoon games showed up and delivered for me.
[01:02:31] Speaker C: You were hot. Yeah. You were owing for Rome was the early leader. He was 2 and 2 in those first ones.
[01:02:35] Speaker B: I had 2 and 6 and 3 in the. In the morning games. I was doing pretty well.
[01:02:40] Speaker C: Yeah, but Rome did the reverse of you, and just the afternoon went there. I. I never took off the ground. Yeah, you took all my momentum in the afternoon, and I kind of just languished, you know, below 500 for most. Most of the afternoon.
[01:02:54] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, after the first three weeks, you know, we talked about getting into the film room, studying and prepping and being ready for week four, I thought. I thought we did a pretty decent job.
[01:03:05] Speaker B: Week four, the Ravens loss. Okay, cool. I'm willing to take that packers divisional game.
I'm okay with that.
I did not feel good about the jets, though.
[01:03:19] Speaker A: Like, the. The.
[01:03:20] Speaker B: The closer we got got to that game, and then once we got up to the Bengals, Broncos, I. I didn't want to pick that one anymore. I wish I had the Broncos on that one.
[01:03:30] Speaker A: Well, you guys were dogging Bo Nicks. I. I made the call, told him.
[01:03:35] Speaker B: I wish I started him. Dude, I wish I started him. He had a great game.
[01:03:38] Speaker A: I started what, 328 passing.
[01:03:41] Speaker B: Yeah, like. Like 20 something points. In fantasy, I still beat Eli. He was trying to get Janty out of me, and I already got my ass kicked out. I gave it to him.
[01:03:51] Speaker A: So did you make that other deal swap we talked about, or did you not bite on it?
[01:03:57] Speaker B: So I tried proposing, like, a three for one trade. I tried asking for the two wide receivers and. And Judic but I guess I have to like, drop some players from my roster to.
[01:04:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's. You just can't stock guys on your roster. And, you know.
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