Episode Transcript
[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome back to Source from the sofa.
I am recording on the road. No mic, no headphones. Kind of raw, dogging it down here in SoCal. Was hanging out with my daughter for Halloween and happens to be that the Dodgers did win game six and game seven. So we're going to be going to the parade tomorrow. By the time this airs, hopefully the parade's happening.
But pretty excited about the parade. We can talk about the, about the game if you want a little bit, but we're here to recap primarily the NFL. Just I'm not done processing everything that happened in the World Series, Game 6 and Game 7. That was like one hell of a series, by the way. And then today in the NFL, our picks are kind of like all over the place, really.
Me and you, Jason, we had the commanders plus three and we really needed to be plus 30 because they have been terrible today.
It was really bad.
But other than that, though, it's the NFL. So some crazy wins, some crazy losses and the cream of the crop, especially for the nfc. Man, they're, they're it.
It's really crowded on top, especially in the NFC West. I don't know what you think about that, but your Bears had had a big win over the Bengals and then Broncos barely escaped the Texans.
Same thing with Pats over the Falcons, my Steelers winning over the Colts and then Vikings upsetting the Lions. Vikings looked pretty good actually, but the Lions didn't look like their usual selves today. So not really sure what to take away from that game, but any like first, first impressions or anything like that? Jason? Yeah.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, a lot of different teams did not look themselves. If you're saying what we season and you know, I think we can take what Aaron and Wes were saying several weeks ago is, you know, whatever the NFL stands for is you're not really, not really knowing. You can't. Once you think you got a team figured out they're going to show you a different side of themselves. So you correctly call your Steelers beating the Colts. But that was the first time this Colts offense the entire season, you know, looked pedestrian. And then the first time that the Steelers defense actually stepped up.
If you looked at that Vikings Lions game, yeah, I think the Lions had looked pretty dominant thus far in the season except for week one versus the packers. But it came down to life a little bit. And then speaking of the packers, probably the more shocking results of the day, I don't know if we're going to get into your categories and topics of the week, but there is something about when this packers team plays lesser than opponents and they play down to their level and ultimately lose, which took place with Carolina today.
I'm not taking credit for the Carolina Panthers by any means, but I know you and Aaron want to hold them. Hold me to a take of them fighting for the seven seed and they're still fighting for the seven. They're still fighting to the seventh seed. I don't think they can get to the seventh seed, but they're still staying alive for it. Jordan Love, man, I, I never know what to think of the guy week to week. I don't think he's bad, but I don't think he's great. And I think when he got that first year, people really wanted to crown him when he was pretty well, I think the second half of his first year as a starter, this guy throws my. One of my friends actually texting the group, Texas. I think it perfectly summed up. He's got a little Will Levis in him. He throws some of the worst interceptions possible. Like, he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions maybe, but when he does, it's some of the ugliest interceptions you'll ever see. And it's just crazy because the Packer team versus a lot of opponents makes it look so dominant. And I know there's, there's a lot of people in Green Bay Packer land that are always disappointed in the level of preparation that this team comes for some of these games. And yeah, truly playing down to some opponents.
That 13 and a half spread, I didn't have a great feeling in a lot of these games, but that was one where it was like, that's a lot of points I did too. Obviously it looks even better that they won outright, but that was, that was one of the more like crazy amounts of the games. It's just not just covering, but just to losing. And as bad as that offense looked the entire game. Yeah, I think the, the other thing you'd mentioned, the nfc, the NFC west and I think there is, there's a great conversation. I know in my friend circles were talking about this. There's a couple of us in the NFC north camp that think that's the best division in football. The NFC west has got a claim to it too. And the Niners, for all their injuries, you know, have been able to at 6 and 3 and they, they're playing with a group of practice squad guys half the week. And Robert Rosala, I don't know who's left in this defense, but he makes it work.
And offensively I think Christian McCaffrey has been, you know, outstanding so far this weekend or this year, and he has been considered in many of maybe the MVP conversation as far as his value to the Niners this season. And then you look at the Rams. I mean, I want, I want, I want to say it. Not I, I don't know if I want to put them in a class, but right now they're looking one of the best teams in the NFC, too. They're 6 and 2. It's hard to say that, but man, they look good. The defense of the Rams just looks outstanding. Just not sure what you're getting from Stafford kind of, but, you know, he could turn it on. And after, you know, what it seemed to be, you know, the last couple years wasn't as great post super bowl. And then the Seahawks just making a statement against the Commanders. You know, the Commanders were hurt to a degree on their defense, but the Seahawks really took it to them. Road warriors. Aaron mentioned that in our preview pod. Now four and oh, away from Seattle, they go all the way to the cross country and just dominate the commanders. And Sunday night, it was over the second quarter.
Oh, it was. I think the, the turnover on the kickoff return or whatever it was, I think was like really the turning point. I'll be, I'll be honest. That's when I kind of lost interest in the game at that point where it was like, man, this is over.
But yeah, I mean, there was a lot of great things and then that afternoon slate, which was God awful for three games or whatever it was. But the Bills Chiefs was really kind of its own primetime game all to itself, and Josh Allen really was able to get it done. The Chiefs kind of mounted the comeback to a degree at the end, but the Bills may have quashed some of that, you know, we talked about, and a lot of people said they hadn't beaten anyone yet. This is a Chiefs team that was really on the rise and they come into. Maybe it's the last time Mahomes has to go into Buffalo. Maybe not. We'll see. Maybe there's a championship, AFC championship game possibility. But yeah, I think Josh Allen proved what he needed to do. And the Bills, you know, I, if they're going to win the Super Bowl, I think I said this in the, the preview of the NFL season. I think it needs to go through Buffalo. That'd be a great way for them to close that stadium and everything, but I think for them to win, it needs to go through Buffalo. So these wins become important, you know, if they're trying to get the number one seed in the afc. So a lot, a lot of went down. I don't know if we need to talk about that Jags Raiders game. That was, that was something.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: The first half, it was entertaining. Real quick on the Bills. It looked like they kind of took their pedal or their foot off the pedal in the third quarter. Otherwise I feel like they left a lot of points on the board and that missed field goal in the fourth quarter to kind of give a chief little hope, you know. So typical. But overall though, I, I thought the Bills played phenomenal and they really got their tight ends involved. Kincaid has been like hit or miss this year, but he was out for a few weeks, came back, got 100 yards and a touchdown. Looked really nice. But that Jags Raiders, I was telling you, I was at my cousin's house in La Puente and they're all Raider fans and it was, it was, it was a rough game to watch, man. It was rough. It was exciting though. Bowers looking phenomenal. I was happy that Genti got a touchdown just because for fine for football fantasy purposes only.
But that was a rough way to lose again at home for the Raiders.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: Well, the biggest thing out of that game was the. An NFL record was sent for longest field goal ever in NFL yarder. 68 yarder, which is. It would have been good from 70, to be honest with you. That guy, that, that guy's got a leg on him and that. And that makes it dangerous for the Jags if they're playing somebody because I guess he's in field goal range if, if they get a touchback, they're. They're almost in field goal range if they got the ball at any point. So. So that was pretty amazing. And then ending on a two point conversion try for Geno getting the ball batted down. You know, they're playing to win. Gotta respect that. But man, a tough way to lose.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: I would have went for the tie, but my cousin was like, for what? So we can be three and five, go for the win. I'd rather be two and six. Fair enough.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: It's fair. It wouldn't have ended it. I mean, they still could have played it off, I guess. But you're giving the Jags the opportunity then to win the game and you're not guaranteed the book getting the ball back. So I don't know, it just, it just comes down to it, man. Like the two point conversion. Such a toss up and.
Yeah, Gino just hasn't been great. And getting batted down dude, that was a bad.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: That was just like I was jumping up way in front, in front of stage for like it felt, it felt like three or five seconds already before we went through the bottle was like so haphazardly.
That was a bad play.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: It was.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
No, yeah. That's like a nice overview, I guess, for Week 9. NFL. We still got a game tomorrow night. Cardinals, Cowboys. I'm not sure how I feel about that game anymore, just based on how today went. I'm like, like, do I want to, you know, switch and go for the cards in this?
Not sure. But ugliest win of the week. Let's do ugliest first or biggest boss. There's some ugly wins today.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean The Panthers winning 16 to 13 isn't exactly, you know, the, the, the most aesthetic win. It's a big win for them.
[00:10:05] Speaker A: The fact that was 13 points, you know, packers barely got 13 points.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Yes. I mean that was just an ugly kind of game. Overall, the Patriots, I mean, they getting the win, but they were, they, they left the door open for the Falcons the entire time. I think that's one of those survive and advance type things when, when you're, you know, it's hard to win in this league and it's a surviving advance.
The Bears win. I didn't talk about that yet. I don't want to bore you with my Bears. The Bears game was, man, that was, it was, it was an exciting win. It age. I told Aaron and you. It aged me 10 years and 10 minutes because, ah, well, I mean, it was 100% accurate. I mean, Jesus. They were up two touchdowns, got an interception which thought it was a pick six to be up three touchdowns that gets called back because like a, a fingernail was touching the linebacker basically when he caught, when he was caught, it. It was just crazy.
A whole series of events that puts the Bears down a point and then you're just trying to get into field goal, which I didn't feel confident because Kyro Santos cut that guy. Right now we, the Bears probably got the only kicker that can't hit anything longer than a 45 yard field goal.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: And whatever happened to them having the 49ers guy?
[00:11:20] Speaker B: He's. I don't know if he's still on the roster, I guess on the practice squad or whatever. They just put him down when Santos got help. But man, like, you can't have a kicker in this league that's just. Only can do like 40 yards and in like, it's just so dreadful as Far as like trusting him to. To make some of these field goals. Like he missed one early in the game and that really could have been, you know, the difference in where things were at. I know the Bengals ended up missing a field goal too, but man, that win was ugly. I. Ugly for the Bears letting the Bengals come back. But Jesus, how bad the Bengals defense is for. For Caleb. I mean, it was a hell of a throw and a dart to Colston Loveland. He really had his biggest breakout game as in the NFL. Two touchdowns today. But man, he. He just. He caught that ball in between a couple different Bengals defenders, bounces off of him and runs 50 plus yards for a touchdown with like 12 seconds left in the game. Just a crazy turn of events in that game. It was ugly at all.
You know, every part of that game I thought was pretty ugly. Flacco threw for like 500, what, 470 yards in this game. I think it was a career day for him. So both defenses are not great, but that, that was. That was an ugly win, I think for the Bears. But you'll take it?
[00:12:30] Speaker A: Yeah. 470.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: I didn't realize it was that much real. So I've been talking about how depleted I am on my wide receivers, my fantasy league. Someone dropped DJ Moore and I like, I actually like the Bears offense. Say what you want about Caleb and I kind of defended him last week. Like a lot of these guys are getting points in fantasy and so I'm like, Dude, you're dropping D.J. i'm picking him up. So the fact that the running back was out, I figured maybe he might get some carries. He had me a hell of a game today and solidified my victory this week. I'm so happy I picked him up on Saturday.
Picked them up on Saturday again.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: I'm going to say who the hell are these morons that you play fantasy with? Because. Because DJ Moore should not be in free agency. The. The. The level of players you can get free agency in your fantasy league is.
[00:13:21] Speaker A: Concerning a couple times.
I can't believe I got him.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: Yes. I just crazy. Your daughter's in disbelief and how terrible of the. The personnel management your fantasy league is. But yeah, it was a big day for him. Kyle, man, Bears Backup running back, 26 carries, 176 yards. I've been waiting for him to kind of get the. The load there with. With Swift out who didn't was production. If you were talking fantasy and the Bears, I know I was pretty pissed about it. So Rome. 00 catches, man. Caleb had 40 plus yard fantasy points in his number one ride receiver. His favorite target gets nothing.
Yeah.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: What it was like I think like Loveland got most of love and then you know, same thing with more which I was happy about. Didn't bother me.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean there was a, when you, when you have 8, was it 91 total or 80? It was it 89 total points in this game? Yeah. You're gonna get a lot of good fantasy production overall. T. Higgins a great on the side for the Bengals too, but I would say it's an ugly loss. That Panthers packers game was pretty ugly.
I, I could say you could flip.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: Between I'm not gonna lie. I, I, I did not see one bit of it, you know but we were you know leaving our current hotel and then in the lobby I was trying to figure out you know we want to go to, to like a museum event. You know. Can't just like watch football all day with the kid. So I kind of missed part of it. But that looked ugly. I didn't see much of the Saints Rams, but Rams look really great.
Steelers had like a really commanding lead on the Colts.
I don't know it was like a weird week of football. Wasn't.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: Was weird. There were some weird matchups we talked about but I mean if you want to go to biggest wins I Rome I would say you're, I would say your Steelers would be the biggest one because it's a proven great team of Colts they, they beat and when you're looking in that division they were reeling back to the pack there a little bit. The Bengals had the opportunity to be 4 and 5 at this the Ravens you already got that win on Thursday night or at 3 and 5 and if the Steelers would have lost that sitting at 4 and 4.
We talked about at the pod the other night with the Ravens winning and I think they're favored to win the division.
That's a big win for the Steelers keeping a two game edge in the division right now. I, I think any questions you had about their defense which hadn't looked great for the first, you know, six, seven games of the year. This Colts offense puts up points and it made you know, you could say you made Daniel Jones kind of look like Daniel Jones who would get Jonathan Taylor never got going versus thing only had 45 yards. I think that was the bigger thing because Daniel Jones still threw for 342 but just didn't look, didn't look great. But I, I would say that was the biggest win of the week Rome so I'll give Props to your Steelers. So you got your Steelers, your, your Dodgers going, man. Everything's just coming up roses for you this weekend.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: Yeah, the Dodgers. Dude, I, I'm exhausted from that series.
It's, I was on X a lot too. X and threads and it's crazy out there, man. People are not happy that the Dodgers won. They're saying baseball's over, baseball is ruined. As if, like the, like the first team that went back to back, it is wild. I was defending like, well, dude, half the players, their team didn't want them when I got him. Maybe they made the trades, they developed. Like, who would have saw a redhead guy that I was playing minor league baseball, you know, pitch four and a half scoreless innings in a pitiful game too, you know, like, come on.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: Ah, I, I mean, I know.
[00:16:58] Speaker A: All right.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean I, I had a friend post this who's a fairly, I guess, recent Dodger fan post about how stressful it is to be a Dodger fan. I'm like, you don't know real pain. You don't know real pain as a baseball fan. It's like the privilege of being a Dodger fan. I mean, I'm happy for your room. I'm happy for all my friends that are Dodger fans. But don't lecture me on the stress of being a team that could spend like a half billion dollars a season putting a baseball team together and whatever funny business they can do. I'll give them credit that they do develop their, their minor leaguers. They do get, you know, some guys like, you know, Teoscar Hernandez or, you know, Kike and you know, some of these other guys that become impact players. But overall you're, you're spending a lot of money and getting people that resources that other teams don't have. So I don't want to hear about the stress of not doing this right. I feel, I feel bad for the poor people of Toronto and everything like that because, man, great. It was on the.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: Cuz they were there. They were great series.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: I mean, for, for anything, any crap I want to give you for the Dodgers buying the World Series and whatever it may be, it was one of the best World Series. And I, and I don't know how long I was know, just debating with some others on what, what would have been, I mean, memorable to me from a World Series standpoint. If you think of like, you know, if you go back to like that O1 World Series with the Diamondbacks or you're thinking about the O2 series with bonds, the Giants and the Angels and, and what that.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: I, I, I hated that it was.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: A bad one because I got all the Angels, my Angel fan friends, I can still talk about that one to this day, but dude, still.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: And I was a big Bonds fan. You know, that was the only time I actually wore a, A Giants hat down in la. But no one really cared because it was Barry Bonds. Those, you know, before the rivalry got like, really tight. So I don't know. I do want to dive deeper to the World Series, but I want to go to the parade first. I want to go back on other, other World Series too, because there's a few that kind of stick out for me. Like the Boston Red Sox, when they won that one, the first one, like, that was really great for me from us fans perspective.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: But I will say that world's. The World Series wasn't good. It was the ALCS that was good because you remember that they just, they went to the World Series after that and just kind of beat, you know, just beat all over the Cardinals, I think it was. So that's one of those one.
That's one of those ones where you remember that season for the alcs, it's almost like when the, the USA Hockey team beat the Russians. They didn't beat the Russians in, in the gold medal game. They beat them before the gold medal game and actually had to close it out.
So I think that's when you're talking pure World Series and, and where it goes to a game seven and this one going extra innings and how long it was and the, the stress.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: He looked great.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: Oh, I mean, outstanding. I mean, when you compare it to Otani and in glass now and Snell. I mean, those guys gave up the, the runs of the game where Yamamoto came in and really shut him down. So, I mean, you give. I know the Dodgers, you guys aren't the big Dave Roberts fans all the time, but some of the moves he.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: Did, the right moves at the right time in game seven, I, I mean.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: You can't hold it against the man. I mean, Roas in the lineup the last two games probably is a decision that wins in the series.
And Pod.
Yeah. Having him in center field, like, because Edmund doesn't make that play and the game's over.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: So.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: I think KK Trying to go over the shoulder, that's not a good move either.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: Oh, no. It was a bad route to the ball. It was a terrible route to the ball. I mean, that's, that's how I, how I play outfield and just make a Terrible run to the ball. But, but I, but those are the Roberts, those are the Roberts moves that you can, you know, for any crap they give them. I mean I was listening to a bunch of friends in a group text that aren't Dodgers fan just ripping these guys for the, the pitching decisions. But I think overall like they were giving a bunch of their guys, you know, the best position and putting your best guys out there and they got to go out there and perform in game seven, I think.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: Game seven. Yeah. Roberts did a hell of a job in game seven. So all the substitutions, all that stuff.
Yeah, we'll talk about more about that later in the week.
Biggest loss in NFL. Biggest loss. I don't know the at least soul crushing losses. I'll say the Raiders is pretty bad.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: Raiders is bad. The Bengals I think is just completely demoralizing for them. Like that team, they looked, Jamar Chase like looked in disbelief from the sideline. The defense was, I couldn't believe it was Havid like that was, that was something they fought back. It would have been terrible for my Bears blowing it, but that was even they, they looked, the Bengals defense looked in disbelief. I think that was a bad loss for a team that could have stuck it. You know they were staying in it especially if the Steelers would have lost during that time too. Like there's, there's still life in the Bengals season and I don't know if it's there anymore. The commanders lost versus Se.
[00:21:47] Speaker A: Well, commanders. Yeah, that's bad.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. I mean you put that in your category for that one too because you know, Jaden hasn't looked great all year. I know you're going to give me a lot of crap on my Jaden take but I mean whether he's hurt or whatever, like you look great in this game. I, I, I put it on you. What game has he looked good so far this year? If you start ranking these quarterbacks from that draft class, like he hasn't been there. So I, that loss is bad. They got some injuries overall in that team, that defense but this is not the team that went to the NFC championship game last year. This team's not making the playoffs.
[00:22:22] Speaker A: You know, I was worried that the Chargers were going to lose the Titans today. Like that was a close one.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: It was. I think they got, they got by the Titans kept it a lot closer than probably the Chargers fans would have liked. Especially you know, going down early with the Titans, you know, up 147 in the first quarter.
Yeah, I mean I think it was absolutely there I was. It was curious on the, on the ground, you know, Vidal only had 12 carries. They started getting Jarrett Patterson. I see like their seventh string running back got in the mix. Had like nine carries.
You know they got the ball a little bit around to McConkey, Johnson and Allen. But the pass game really never took off and was able to keep the Titans in the game. But I think it was scary. But those are the type of games I think the Chargers, you know, you gotta win even when you're not playing the best.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: I feel bad for the Giants lost today, but they're kind of depleted. But I was kind of surprised that they were kind of hanging around and, and almost up at one point. But you and Aaron feel bad for.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: The Giants every week, man. Just feel bad for the Giants.
[00:23:28] Speaker A: We like this. I don't know. I like the team. I don't know. It's. It's fun. But like seventh loss now. They've been like, like pretty close in a handful of these games. I, I feel like it's. It's safe to put them in the. In the dead list now.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: I think they are definitely in the dead list. I thought we had them in there already, but maybe Aaron and was holding. You and Aaron were holding on for day but kept them alive.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: Dude. Kept them alive. Let me graduate them to the knockoff list then Giants.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: It's. It's against the Bears next week, which would be a pretty big game for. For my beloved Bears because that's a team they need to win.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: Sounds like a track game.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: It potentially is the.
It is at Soldier Field, so.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: Okay. I think that's good for you.
[00:24:13] Speaker B: It is, but it's a game they gotta win because they're gonna go back and play in the Vikings and then they got your Steelers coming up and then the Eagles and Packers. So there's. There's a tough road ahead. You got to start pocketing wins here and I think that's. That's a win they need to have.
[00:24:26] Speaker A: All right, so do we nominate like who. Who had the biggest win?
[00:24:29] Speaker B: I mean I said you're Steelers, I think.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: Okay. That's right.
I would say it's the Vikings.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: I could see it keeps it. I mean just a nice throws he did. I know Justin Jefferson was very happy with him post game, you know, for what. What it looked like and I definitely a little bit of an upgrade. I'm still not an overall believer with him being the answer, but I. There's something there with him and I, I think you give. I think you give that Coach another fan base that doesn't like their head coach, who's actually really good at kind of developing quarterbacks. They don't like o'? Connell. No. I got some friends that are Viking fans and they always complain about this guy. I mean, maybe it's the thing that nobody likes their coach. I don't, I don't get it. But yeah, you got a guy that, because packers fans are all on the floor, people don't like o'. Connell.
But, but he's, he's gotten the most out of Darnold last year and I, I think he'll continue to develop with J.J. mcCarthy. It's just, I, I just think there's a lot of questions around McCarthy on, on @ Michigan, I'll always say, like, he wasn't, they were almost hiding him. And so what is he going to be able to do with the Vikings? He gets, he gets the benefit of Jefferson and some tools out there.
What are you saying?
[00:25:43] Speaker A: What a hater you are. You're such a dj.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: I mean, I'm just saying, I just. That thought they, they reached the draft him, but I don't know, after watching Jordan Love today, he may not be the worst quarterback in the, in the NFC North. It may be Jordan Love.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: Wow.
You know what? I. Okay, so like the packers being the Steelers and they looked really nice. Everyone's like, oh, this guy's hand. This guy's him. This guy's a top three quarterback. I'm like, what? Just like after one win, that's it. Against my Steelers, I, I felt, you know, I didn't want to say anything. This is my team. I don't want to like, over step and over protect my team. But, you know, and then he looks pedestrian today. It's like, this is what he's been doing so far in three years.
It's the same stuff.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: I just think he's another person that you put in the middle of the road. You know, we had this conversation before. Were you Talking about your 12 to 19th ranked quarterback in the league?
[00:26:35] Speaker A: I am going to do the quarterback rankings. Dude, you.
I'm gonna do it by next week.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: 1 through 32. Do the whole thing.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: Sure, yeah, why not?
[00:26:46] Speaker A: All right. Okay. I'm excited to actually do it because I know I'm gonna piss off Aaron. I know I'm gonna piss off Aaron on like a handful of these.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. But I mean, some of these guys, I think, you know, they're.
I think when you go with it, there's gonna be some room, but I, I will long keep this take. There's a few exceptions and then there's a massive group of probably about 20 dudes that are all just situation and everything around them is just the same. You just, you can flip flop them in different situations depending with the situation and the weapons around them. They're. They're about the same best old guy.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: Veteran that you can call in and get 300 yards and two touchdowns.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Well, that's Flacco, because he gets you almost. He gets you almost 500 at this point.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: Exactly. That's what I was thinking. That's.
There definitely has to be some subcategories. All right, asshole. From the week. I think we got two then.
Seahawks commanders, do you consider the Saints Rams announcement or not really? Because it's just the Saints, right? It's just kind of expected.
So do commanders.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: I think the commanders do. I think the Saints were playing a backup quarterback and they were doing weird stuff with Taysom Hill and the minimal. I watched that game, but I would say the commanders, because this was a prime time game that you just looked absolutely dreadful.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: You know, you and Aaron were saying this was not a good game of football or like a good week of football. And I was like, you know, I actually like a lot of these games. When we were watching the games this morning, I was not liking a lot of these games. I'm just like, you know what, we're gonna go to the museum today.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: I, I mean, I still don't think it was a good slate of football. I think there were some results, but there was, it was, it was overall not great.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Not good.
Biggest loss.
Do we have that?
[00:28:28] Speaker B: I still think the Bengals loss is pretty bad. That's where I would go with it. Just they, even though they're sitting down at three is six, but if this team was four and five, you know, you're not sitting that far out in the division now.
You know, you're basically third in the, in the AFC north now because the Ravens are three and five and the Ravens are getting healthy at the right time and the Bengal season's probably cooked at this moment.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: Yeah, Big win by the Bill. So, man, top of the afc, man. Pats, Bills, Steelers, big win.
They really need. Needed that one. Colts still by themselves, but only a game up on the Jags. Jags picked up a win. If they would have lost today, that would have. That would have been their fourth loss in a row. They would have been at four and four. That would have been pretty bad for them. So they kind of stay afloat there. Yeah, that AFC west is still pretty deep, man.
2, 3, 4 losses, Broncos charging Chiefs, Eagles alone on top in that division. It looks like that just might be a lost year for everyone there. Not being an Eagle fan, I, I know we were talking about like the Cowboys. We'll see what they do tomorrow. And you know, a lot of people think they, they could still sneak into that seven seed.
Your division, Bears, Lions, pack, you know, they still keep up. So they're still tied with the Lions.
Tough loss by the Lions today.
I don't know that that's a big loss.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: It can be. I mean you'll, you look at the playoff picture right now, I think my Bears sitting out at that A seed. The top seven are pretty definitive.
When you look at Eagles, Bucks, Seahawks, Packers, Rams, Niners, Lions, like those are the only teams with a plus point differential in the nfc.
It's going to be down like how do these teams perform in some of their division games down the stretch? Especially in you're saying NFC west and NFC north, they're going to be picking each other off and it's going to come down to hey, conference record. I mean Bears, Niners close the season out in the final week of the year. Is that a play in game for the playoffs potentially? I don't know.
But that I think that'll be, that'll be coming down to. I don't know if the Cowboys can sneak in.
I think that's a pretty tough stretch. The Panthers, I said, you know, maybe they're sniffing around a little bit, but I think this top seven is really, really good. There's questions around maybe the Packers a little bit after their loss today. And then playing down to opponents, the, you know, but the Eagles, Bucks, Rams look really good. Seahawks looking really good.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: So Seahawks, man, look really nice.
[00:30:56] Speaker B: The Niners, we talked all year, just got a very favorable schedule. Like overall just you play a last place schedule and versus a you know, bad AFC Conference opponent and stuff like the Niner schedule lines up for them even with the injuries. You know, they can, they can win a lot of games here and it'd be a, be a big thing for them. The NFC north going against the McCaffrey.
[00:31:20] Speaker A: Didn'T even play last year. Now they're just like writing him like I think like a little too heavy. But Mac Jones has been playing solid. They're just playing like this blue collar type of football. It's pretty admirable. It's all but Solomon, I think it's because of solid Is there. He's really changed that whole defensive scheme.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: I agree. Solid is a great defensive coordinator. I think Aaron talked about this a couple weeks ago. When you look at the where the jets were when they fired Salah last year and it fell apart and where the jets are sitting at right now, you know, that's where you fire the coach too quickly and where things are at and what this guy actually does contribute because you know people call him for his job but man, they haven't looked good since they fired him. And he goes, you know, he goes to the Niners and he's got practice squad players. He's putting together, you know, competitive performances and you know they're 6 and 1 in the NFC right now. Like it's. They're good.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: That's crazy. That's crazy.
Any final comments for this week?
[00:32:13] Speaker B: No. I think you're just getting into this time where we're going to start talking about health of teams. You know, you looked at the commanders, you know defense is battered up a little bit and you know then other teams getting healthy. If you said the Ravens are starting to get healthy or some of these other teams. So I think as we're looking at games and matchups and stuff like the health I think is going to start starting to come into it. But there's things starting to form here and you know we were, we're crossing teams off that are no longer, you know, viable and stuff. I forget what you got like six, seven teams or something there but it's not going to get, you know, tight when you're looking at Maybe the top 10 teams in each conference here. As we get into the mid late parts of November for as many teams.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: That we crossed off, I just can't believe there's this many teams that are like good in the NFC specifically. Man, it is wild.
That is wild. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see what happens with the Cowboys Cardinals tomorrow. Not like much is on the line there. Are you gonna watch it?
[00:33:08] Speaker B: I'll probably watch some of it. I for me we're gonna talk about your fantasy team. I got some fantasy teams with some Cowboy implications. So you know Javante Williams was a pick that I got in many drafts and he's been paying dividends this year. So Jake Ferguson, big tight end for the Cowboys. So I'm hoping for like a huge high scoring game where I get a lot of touchdown catches to Javonta CD and Ferguson.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: So for like fantasy I totally forgot because you know I had genty at HN and I Had Scatterboo. I also had Swift coming in out of the lineup. This is before the Scatter Boo injury. I put out like a handful of like trades out there. One of them was like Swift and Jerry Judy for DK Metcalf. Because I thought, you know, there's not any receivers in my league available.
And I totally forgot about it. And I had Swift in my lineup and the guy finally approved the trade. So I lost Swift, but then I picked up DJ Moore and now I have DK Metcalf, you know, more camp. Can't remember who else I picked up, but I hope I'm not regretting that trade because now I need a running back.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: Well, it seems like you can pick up a running. I mean, is Manungai in free agency? Because I've seen from your league, he would have been barely owned. That would have been 20 something fantasy points for you today.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: I got Jordan Mason left, man, there's. Wait, who's the running back at Chicago? The one that did well today?
[00:34:30] Speaker B: Kyle Manungai.
[00:34:32] Speaker A: He was available. Someone picked him up.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:34:35] Speaker A: I thought about him. I'm like, ah, it's just one week.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: That's where you got a handcuff. If you got the starter, your goal is always handcuff. So if they get hurt, you always got the guy there sitting on your bench.
[00:34:45] Speaker A: Well, cool, man. Should we talk about anything else?
[00:34:47] Speaker B: I mean, the only other thing I had going this Sunday, Rome was nascar and we talked a little bit about that and epic plug in crap show that was so. But I mean, if we want to talk about that, we can. If not, you know, do your quick.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Little two minute drill here on nascar. Like what happened? Why did it suck for the championship?
[00:35:04] Speaker B: Well, NASCAR is NASCAR's playoffs. They do Rome, they don't do it like Formula One, IndyCar. Every other racing in the world where you, you get points every race of the year and then the most points wins. NASCAR tries to be like every other sport and has a regular season for 26 races and then has a 10 race playoff and drivers get eliminated after a certain number of races. So the final race this week was at Phoenix. It was the final four. You had Kyle Larson, you had William Byron, you had Denny Hamlin, and then you had who was the fourth guy? And it's Chase Briscoe. So two Hendrick Motorsports drivers, two Joe Gibbs Racing drivers. So it was kind of a showdown. Denny Hamlin dominates this race, sits on the pole, leads I don't know, three quarters of the race. William Byron was really the only one that was close to him. You had Larson get a flat tire, Briscoe get a fat tire. Hamlin actually got a flat tire early, but was actually able to Recover with about 20 laps to go or so. Hamlin just starts opening up a league out, over three second lead on William Byron. And with four laps to go, Byron blows a tire, goes into the wall they call a yellow.
Everybody goes to the pit. It is bullshit. And under NASCAR rules in like Formula one, you only do X amount. In Formula one, you know, is X amount of laps. If it's under yellow, it ends. Who cares? Because it's an X mile, mile race. Well, NASCAR started this thing, I don't know, 20 years ago or some stuff maybe that it always ends under green. So they do a green, white, checkered. So it's basically a two lap sprint to the finish. So everyone goes in the pits, Hamlin's the leader. This is where it puts as the leader. It becomes in like a terrible compromising position because whatever you do, whoever does something opposite to you impacts you. So he takes all four tires. Bunch of drivers, including Kyle Larson, only takes two right side tires because that's where the more grip, the more wear is going to be on the right side. And so Hamlin drops down to like 10th place after going to the pits in the lead. And now you got two laps to try to make up nine, 10 positions or whatever it is. Kyle Larson, who is one of my favorites, to be honest, ends up winning the championship. He finished like in second, third place or whatever, but because he's the head of the final four, he wins the championship. Hamlin's been in this sport for 20 years, hasn't won a championship. He's what, the most decorated driver never to win a championship because NASCAR's BS playoff system and everything they're doing, it turns this into basically a, a caution flag just decides your champion and the ultimate luck and what happens. And it's been like this for years. People complain about this, it's probably getting changed last year. But the randomness and luck that goes into crowning a champion in NASCAR bears no, like, actual faction of who like the champion is. And I'm a big NASCAR fan, have been since I was little. Jeff Gordon was my guy. I got, I think I got a picture back there. There's Jeff Gordon behind the mic, you know, whatever, you know, okay, Jeff Gordon was my guy. Love nascar. It started getting big. It was becoming huge. And slowly it started losing popularity. And this playoff system was what they thought. They can fix it. Plenty of People old school NASCAR heads, you know, hate it too. I think they're changing it next year, but I don't doubt they're going to want to create some drama and make some sort of other playoff system. But it makes the first 26 races, just whoever's ahead kind of live meaningless to a degree. And we talk about there's like road course racers that just win these road courses and, and different things like that. But it really puts a, a damper on guy like Hamlin who, who want to win a championship already because he is so dominant. Guy's got like 60 plus wins in his career. And it's just an arbitrary way that they crown a champion off this last race, Final four, who finished better wins the championship. Like it shouldn't be like that. You know, we cover Formula One in great detail. We talk about IndyCar and Alex Palo, who just dominates it. And that's what you're looking for. And this is. There's a lot of complaints about nascar, whether it's this playoff standings or even the car itself, which has become so like, you know, paradide across the thing where everyone's kind of got the same car. There's no real kind of difference between a lot of it. It's just kind of a bunch of guys grouped up together and a lot of these tracks, it's just luck that decides that there's no real skill in what these drivers can actually do. So disappointing end. This is why NASCAR gets swallowed up at the end of the season. You know, when it's football season and no one knows what's going one. That's why we cover way more Formula one. Even though I'm a big NASCAR fan, but man, it just sucks the way this goes out. Kyle Larson deserving champion overall, but this is the not, not the way he needs to win the championship because. Yeah, yeah, it's just, it's not it. And he, and, and they knew it. And if I was Hamlin, he's a much better, you know, he's not a poor loser, man. He just sat there in his car just kind of in utter disbelief. But I would have been MF in the world if you're gonna tell me I'm gonna lose a championship. Like, there was a whole story with him. He, his dad is like health wise, not doing really good. It was probably the only shot his dad was ever, you know, see him win the championship. And because one guy gets a flat tire, we're going to throw a yellow flag out and that's how the championship's Decided like it's just BS and it just really dampers on like what could be great for NASCAR and really trying to make, you know, make some big moments happen and deserving have a deserving champion. So that was my Sunday afternoon where I'm doing that split screen with the, with the Bills Chiefs game.
But it was a perfect time for NASCAR to take center stage with a bad afternoon slate of football.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: I'm just disappointed I couldn't watch more of the Chiefs Bills game. I was at my cousin's house and watching a lot of the Raiders.
[00:40:28] Speaker B: Raiders Jags. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't have it wouldn't win the preference there. But you know I, I can't blame your cousins and stuff because if you're coming to my house. Rome, you would have had the Bears on for the entire morning hour. But loyal no matter what.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: No, no matter what. The Raiders game is on. They're wearing their jerseys and they'll and they'll talk the whole time but at least they're watching it.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: That's fair. I mean we come over my house, I'll have the multi screen on. So I got Bears on one, red zone on the other. So at least I'm keeping up with what's going on. You got to have the multi view. It's just, it's just mandated on a football Sunday. But man, this scheduled three games in the afternoon, you know, give me something better. I mean I'm just at the morning I was basically. Okay, cool. I'm just skipping out. I'll just watch the NASCAR and the Chiefs Chiefs Bills on, on the, on the multi view there the other two games, man.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: Well next week looks pretty good. So I, I think we'll be pretty happy with next week.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean we're starting to get to crunch time. I think you're going to start seeing, you know, we'll start getting division games on the calendar for football. So I think that's, you know, it's really. Some of the nitty gritty is going to come down here.
You know, Baltimore, Minnesota might be a little more better looking. New England at Tampa Bay. The Tom Brady bowl there. I don't know who's calling that game on cbs. He's not calling it but that's going to be pretty good.
Jags. Houston could be pretty good even though that's a terrible division. But you know, Houston trying to get back into things here. The Jags leading that division.
Rams, Rams 49ers could be good.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Dude, that's big.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: Pittsburgh Chargers on Sunday night's a big matchup Monday night game for Philly Green Bay so there's some good stuff next.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: Week room it sounds like just next Sunday Monday hour like just like the the games to be actually next week doesn't look too much better actually now I'm looking at this there's some pretty.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: Good matchups that yeah I'm not watching Brown's jets if that's what you're looking at.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: I'm definitely not watching that but I think I'll do it here's Amelia cast appearance oh by the way man Steelers every time she's with me they have a victory this year for their wins have been when she's with me well.
[00:42:33] Speaker B: It sounds like she needs to be there every weekend you know yeah dude.
[00:42:35] Speaker A: Right.
Yeah. All right that's all we got we'll find out what happened to Aaron. Apparently he was not ready Mia let's join us we'll do college football recap maybe Monday.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: Yeah well I don't know man. If you if you're gonna be out and about at the parade I'm not I'm not very confident you get home you know the parade you know it could be wild. You guys celebrating championship. Yeah. So I got the rental car I think I think we could talk through it Wednesday when we do college football for next week. It wasn't a banner week for us on the college football wise and our circa contest. I think we basically kissed our chances goodbye. This rough? Yeah, that was kind of it. Rough rough way to end it. We lost on a lot of bad half point spreads and there was some. There was some bad stuff so.
But we'll we'll. We can have Aaron guide us on the games of the week in college football as we get to crunch time here in the college football season.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. We'll wait for Aaron for to do that then. Then we'll also talk more World Series next time I'll do it man.
Love it. I'll be able to throw that parade in peace. I might I might post some stuff for on on our source in the sofa account.
We're starting to get some hate messages on on there. I'm loving it. Commenting on a lot of things.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: Well enjoy a championship. You know they don't come around all the time but I guess for you for the Dodgers that come around every year but you still should enjoy it.
[00:44:02] Speaker A: I've been waiting a long time man. It's you know it's all. You guys should be blaming the Astros for all this.
[00:44:08] Speaker B: How are we blaming the Astros about all this.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: They cheated. They ripped one out of our hearts. And then, you know, now we're like, now the Dodgers are overly obsessed.
I don't know.
[00:44:18] Speaker B: I don't think them investing a billion dollars in payroll would have anything to do with you getting cheated out of a World Series.
[00:44:23] Speaker A: More than payroll, man.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: All right, I'm not. I'm not saying it's not, but I'm saying it's not. It's not. It's not a disadvantage. You have three.
Baseball's not ruined because baseball is random enough to where weird things happen, because anything could have happened in that game seven where the Blue Jays won. So it's not ruined. But, hey, you have a competitive advantage that always keeps the Dodgers relevant, and that's not bad for baseball either.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: I'll say one thing, though.
When.
When Basler loaded the bottom of the knife, I was like, telling my friend, like, this is it, dude. One out. They can just, like, sacrifice, like, how hard is it to run it in? That's it.
And luckily, that just did not happen.
And. And he didn't even have a big enough lead.
And then he slipped feet first, you know, like. Like that traction. It was just such the smallest amount of difference between safe and out. It was just. Oh, my God, dude. I was, like, crying. I was crying. I. I just. In disbelief.
Toronto. I was already. You know, I was already content if daughters lost. I was like, you know what? Toronto was a great team, top down, one through nine. Like, they were hitting lights out, and all their wins were dominant wins. Dodgers barely inked out every single win in that series, so I was already tipping my. My cap to Jace fans. But the fact they, you know, pulled it out with a medal.
Amazing.
[00:45:47] Speaker B: Well, enjoy the parade.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: We'll enjoy it. And we'll catch all you guys along with Aaron next time with college football Recap, more World Series analysis, and a preview for F1 Brazil coming up next weekend, which I'm pretty excited about.
[00:46:02] Speaker B: Brazilian Grand Prix. And we'll see if it's in the rain this year.
[00:46:05] Speaker A: I dig it.
We are out.
