NFL Week 12 & CFB Recap: Was There A Full Moon This Weekend? Playoff Implicating Upsets, Nobody Wants to Win the NFC West, and Las Vegas Prix

[00:00:05] Speaker A: Welcome back to Sources from the Sofa. Big, big weekend in football this past weekend. Plus F1. That was exciting on a Saturday night. Kind of liven it up a little bit. I really dug that. And then, man, this was basically like one of those weekends of upsets college football. Aaron, you had some pretty cool. Pretty cool games on the games of the week this past weekend. UCLA almost had it. They. They almost had it. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Hey, man, I'm not here to talk UCLA, man. I'm here to talk that 4 and 6. Now 5 and 6 Kansas team, bro. [00:00:43] Speaker A: That's it. Big. You want to get right to that one? [00:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah, let's get right to it. [00:00:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Lead us away. [00:00:51] Speaker B: You know, I've been praising Kansas, it seems like for the past three weeks here on the show. [00:00:57] Speaker A: You happen. [00:00:57] Speaker B: Rome, you laughed at me when I said their best 2 and 6 team. You laughed at me when you said the best 3 and 16. [00:01:02] Speaker A: Jason laughed at you at 4, 6. [00:01:05] Speaker B: At 4 and 6, Jason jumped on the bandwagon. And now in 5 and 6, he's all the way on board. [00:01:13] Speaker C: I'm on board, man. [00:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Kansas upsetting Colorado. Dion was not happy after the game. Big look of disappointment. And he says, you know, they just kind of fumbled it. They let the success get to their heads. Do you guys think that was the case? [00:01:28] Speaker B: I. I don't think so, man. I mean, Colorado. Colorado is an interesting story. You know, they've had a. The big. The Big 12's been up and down all year. I mean, they were fortunate to win that game back, like six weeks ago against Baylor. They hit that Hail Mary and then won an overtime. They've had a couple other close games in the conference, gotten some teams at the right times, and now Kansas was rolling. Kansas is the first team ever to win three straight games against top 25 opponents of a below.500 record. [00:01:56] Speaker A: First time ever. Yeah. [00:01:58] Speaker B: And I mean, Kansas, I was high on them coming into the season. They lost a tough game at home early in the year to unlv. UNLV is gonna. Looks like possibly be playing Jason's Boise State for that Mountain west and possible that last playoff spot from a non group of five, non power four team. [00:02:14] Speaker A: I think they're ranked now, right? [00:02:15] Speaker B: Unlv? [00:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:18] Speaker B: Maybe the new AP pool. I haven't looked. We'll see what the new playoff rankings come out tomorrow. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Tomorrow. Yeah. I believe they're ranked now towards the bottom. Pretty shocking, but they've had, like, quite a turnaround. They lost their starting quarterback. He bounced out when they were on a roll. When they were 5. 0. Because you know that that money, that nil money never showed up, right? [00:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah. He was owed 100 grand. He said. [00:02:42] Speaker A: Said he only got three grand. [00:02:44] Speaker C: Did he go anywhere or he just left? [00:02:46] Speaker B: He's in the transfer portal. I'm looking right now. You know, visa number 21. And then updated AP Poll 21. [00:02:54] Speaker A: So pretty much. [00:02:56] Speaker B: I got some news also out of UNLV too, man. Their OC rumored to be leaving if he does not get a head coaching job to be the next Florida State Seminoles offensive coordinator. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Really? [00:03:09] Speaker B: That is in the works. Paperwork's not done. But as long as he does not get a new head coaching gig at a Division 1 team here, he will be the new offensive coordinator at Florida State come next season. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Does that make you happy? [00:03:23] Speaker B: I do like the move. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Nice. Yeah. So Jayhawks, man, like they laid an ass open. 37 to 21. Wasn't even close. Gerord played pretty decent actually, but was pressured a lot. Kansas just dominated both sides of the ball. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Well, they dominated on the run game. Went over 200 yards rushing. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Yeah. I believe three touchdowns for the running back, Neil, I think. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah, Neil. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Yeah, he killed it on the ground. And also a couple receptions, four touchdowns total. That's a hell of a day. [00:03:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, they got after them early. I mean, they got. They jumped on Colorado. I mean, I saw Deion's interview there in the second quarter. He's like, I am not worried. It's early in the game. We got plenty of time. God is great, you know, the whole spill he gives. But like I told you, Rome, that. That kickstand seems a little wobbly for me over there in Colorado. [00:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a lot of rumors now where he might be. I hear Vegas is a good fit. [00:04:13] Speaker B: That's the only destination, man, Dallas, of the victory. There's no way they're. They're getting Shadir Saunders now. [00:04:19] Speaker A: They looked really good. Well, we'll talk about that later. Let's go to another upset. Man, this broke my heart because I'm a big lane Kiffin guy. I was supporting Ole Miss for a while, but this is who they are. This is what they always do. I think I text you guys, like, isn't this just like a lane Kiffin team? They always lose these type of games. Kind of disappointing. Florida, though, has. Is a pretty good football team. They've looked pretty, pretty solid in the last few weeks. A lot better than what their record is. They're definitely turning that program around again. 24:17. They're definitely out the playoffs and yeah, it just kind of feels like a lost season for them. [00:04:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it's a tough loss for Ole Miss because I think Mississippi is the third best team in the SEC coming into this week. There's a lot of, A lot went down in the sec. A lot of big shakeup with Alabama, Mississippi, Texas A and M all losing. Now Georges are automatically clinched the spot. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:13] Speaker B: And now you've got Texas versus Texas A and M. The winner of that game potentially gets into the SEC title game, which would make A and M still have a shot. Yeah, it's a big, it was a big shake up in the SEC this week. [00:05:26] Speaker A: It was a big shake up. [00:05:28] Speaker B: But I mean, give credit to. I think Jason has been talking about it. You know, Big ten, sec, four teams guaranteed in. It looks like that's going to be the case of all these upsets going on. [00:05:38] Speaker C: It does. But like, you know, you start looking at how this shakes out like you're, you're going to get the SEC lobbying for a three loss team into this playoff. You know, at a certain point, you know, Texas A And M at 8 and 3, you know, they may have to win the SEC championship if in order to get in. You know, obviously Bama, you know, is going to be lobbying even though, you know, they've had three losses against teams. [00:06:02] Speaker A: That they don't deserve to be in there. [00:06:04] Speaker C: They don't. And there's, I think there's going to be a ton of non SEC people like lobbying. Like, you know, why doesn't the second, you know, if it's, you know, Miami and SMU coming down in the acc, like who, you know, does one of those teams earn a spot, the loser of that game being in it over a three loss, you know, Bama or you know, who like team. So I, I still think 4 secs and 4 big tens that there's going to be, you know, the big, the big money network contract is being in there. But the SEC is just like, basically they're just, you know, chipping each other off one and white, you know, each week. You know, like everyone's look at the conference records as everyone's like 4 and 3, 4 and 4, 5 and 3. Like, I mean, besides Texas and their easy schedule in the sec, like they really haven't had to play anyone. I know that's Rome's, one of Rome's five teams over there, the Longhorns, but you know, everyone else has had to play some games and it's just been, you know, a team Like Florida, hey, four and four in the conference. But they, hey, they've wrecked Ole Miss this season. [00:07:02] Speaker A: I know Texas now they're, I believe they're ranked number three in the country. But they didn't look too good against Kentucky either to be honest with you. That first half, the first three quarters are kind of shaky. It was a lot closer than what that the final score was 31 to 14. They're not. [00:07:20] Speaker B: Texas hasn't played anybody. I don't know who's asked. They kiss going into the conference but they got a cakewalk through that thing. Unlike Oklahoma. It's like hey Oklahoma, you take on all the tough teams and Texas hasn't played anybody. 100 agree with Jason on that one. You know we're talking about a team that a three loss team. I think a three loss team that I would put in the playoff if they, if they win this weekend would be South Carolina. South Carolina plays against in state rival Clemson. Given the momentum they've got going on wins over basically Texas A and M. [00:07:53] Speaker A: They've had a really tough schedule. [00:07:54] Speaker B: They've had a really, really tough schedule and they're playing really good football. If they beat Clemson this weekend, I don't think they're gonna get in. But they're a team. If there was a fourth team to get in from the sec, I would consider South Carolina. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Well one of their losses against lsu, they should have won that one that came to the wire. I think they got screwed on that one, I can't really remember. And then they did get beat by Ole Miss I think in October. And let's pull it up right here. [00:08:18] Speaker B: Yeah, they didn't show, they didn't show up for that game against Ole Miss. [00:08:20] Speaker A: And then a close one to Alabama. [00:08:22] Speaker B: Alabama failed on a two point conversion to tie. [00:08:25] Speaker A: Really good losses, really good losses. [00:08:27] Speaker C: Good losses but tough to put them in when you ahead of either of those three teams. Well, not lsu, they're done. But like you're talking Ole Miss and Bamat, three losses. It's going to be tough for, to put them in when you. South Carolina's lost to those head to head matchups. So their biggest, their biggest win so far was a huge win over A M and then a really solid win against Mizzou. Yeah, a big win for Clemson but I don't think that's a top 12 team. You know given the three losses that they had I think they needed to show out in one of those games that these other teams that are have three losses at the same. [00:08:58] Speaker A: I think, I think South Carolina is better than Alabama. [00:09:03] Speaker B: I think they are too. But I mean, I think they're gonna get some love. We'll see. I don't, I don't know what the committee's gonna do. I mean is the committee gonna look at, you know, Alabama beat them? I mean South Carolina I think is better than Alabama right now. But six weeks ago Bama beat them barely. So are we gonna pit, Are we gonna pit the merit on the field? Are we gonna go? They don't pass the eye test and screw them like, you know, they did Florida State last year. [00:09:28] Speaker A: Well, they did. [00:09:29] Speaker B: That's the big question now. [00:09:30] Speaker A: Well, they did beat Oklahoma and then Oklahoma just beat Alabama. That was an asshole. But I did not see Alabama game manhandled like that. They, they look like they didn't belong in that game and I don't think. Has Oklahoma been decent this year? [00:09:45] Speaker C: No, they're 2 and 5 in the SEC right now. [00:09:47] Speaker B: It's like, it's Oklahoma. I mean they've been like, Oklahoma has. Oklahoma has a good defense, a really good defense. Their offense has been terrible and they've just had some. They've had the most stupidest mistakes in games that you would just, you would shake your head at. They just switched off as a coordinators a few weeks back. I didn't expect them to beat Alabama either. It wasn't Bama. Bama was a two touchdown favored, but Oklahoma, I mean Oklahoma lit him up. That game, that game wasn't even close. [00:10:16] Speaker C: I mean if you're gonna throw shade at Texas schedule again, at least Oklahoma coming to the sec. You know, they played the big dogs, they played Tennessee, they played great, I guess Texas, they played Ole Miss, they played Alab. The South Carolina, they're gonna play at lsu. Like they played all the legacy great SEC teams off the bat. [00:10:34] Speaker A: You guys are the only two like throwing so much shade on Texas. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Look, I like Texas. I think they're probably a top 12 team, but they're, they're over hyped. They're overrated, man. Maybe they're the Indiana. They're the Indiana of the sec. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Let's talk about that game next. So we had, yeah, lots of upsets. So Indiana. It felt like everything kind of fell apart. Was it the second quarter being the. [00:10:57] Speaker C: Second, maybe the end of the first setting at a certain point with the turnovers. [00:11:02] Speaker A: Yeah, they just looked really messy. They looked really nervous. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Was it the penalty they had? [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah, most definitely. And it looked like they weren't really trying to even chip away at the lead at, at the end, they just kind of took forever. Just ran the ball a lot, you know, weren't trying to get some touchdowns, minimize that score a little bit. So that was kind of awkward move too. I kind of heard some rumblings. I didn't really catch a lot of media today, but a lot of people are not happy with Indiana's coach for whatever reason talking mad game and then showing up like that and maybe kind of, I guess saving face for the playoff pitcher. [00:11:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean it'll be interesting on this week where Indiana is ranked because if they are in the top 12 and they've probably secured a spot in the playoff at this point because they're not going to go to the Big Ten title game. So they could be locked in at 11, one record and potentially put in. But if Aaron talked about it, they needed to keep it close, they didn't. And so the rest of this strength of schedule, which, you know, they haven't really played anyone, is that going to be enough for 11 wins getting them into the playoffs? You know, I think the best people looking at this is probably Penn State because they played a pretty soft schedule minus their Ohio State, but they kept it a close with Ohio State. So hey, they're in and they're probably not playing. And they're not going to play in the Big Ten title game either because it should be just Ohio State and Oregon coming out of it. But where Indiana's ranked this week, I think it'll tell us a lot what the committee thinks still a lot. I think that the SEC could potentially mess up with everything we talked about with these two, three lost teams in the sec. But yeah, to Aaron, to Aaron's point, walking into that game, they had to keep it close and they look messy and ill prepared and basically everyone in the national media is going to say you played nobody. You know, why are you in, why are you in this spot? [00:12:59] Speaker A: To be fair, that was the most complete game I've seen. Ohio State, they looked really good. That was their best game of the year by far. [00:13:05] Speaker B: Ohio State's a really good football. [00:13:06] Speaker A: They finally. Everything just looked like it was clicking all cylinders though. [00:13:10] Speaker B: And I think Ohio State had a statement to make. I mean they lost a close one at Oregon, won a close one at Penn State. But Ryan Day in Ohio State, since he took over this program has been considered soft. [00:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:23] Speaker B: And like you said, Rome, Indiana's coaches came out, you know, his introductory press conference before he, they even played a game. He called Ohio State, amongst the other teams, Michigan in the conference, garbage Trash. I guarantee you that was played through the halls. Posters, everything were in the hallways. They're going into study, weight room, everything. For Ohio State this weekend. They came out, like you said, on a mission. Took it to Indiana. Indiana. The great thing for Indiana is that we mentioned Alabama lost, Mississippi lost, Texas A and M lost. Can you say a three loss team is better than a one loss Indiana team on a neutral field? I would take these teams, but it's the Big Ten. Are you going to wiggle them out? You know, the Big Ten is not going to be happy about that if you get Indiana out of there for a three loss A M team. Our Mississippi team that lost to Florida lost to Kentucky. So we'll see. [00:14:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, it's, it's tough for them any, it's tough to make that argument. We could, we could bash Texas for their schedule and I guess Indiana too. But at the same time, hey, you've beat Michigan, you beat Michigan State, you beat Washington, who was in, who was in the national title game last year. You beat Rome's Nebraska Corn Huskers, who were supposed to be on the uptick, you know, UCLA, you know, coming out of the PAC 12. I mean, at the start of the year, this may look like a more impressive schedule, but just over the, over the season, it got worse and worse for Indiana for what they were showing out. So they're in a major conference. It's not like Boise State, who's going got to go out and prove it. So they have big wins over major conference programs. Even though they're not the best out there, it still should stand for something. And they, and it's not like those games were close. They blew all these teams out. You know, they embarrassed Nebraska. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, Indiana didn't trail in a football game to like week eight or week nine of the season, which is unheard of. [00:15:16] Speaker A: Pretty wild. It's still hard to do. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Yeah, but we know we might be missing, you know, the accident. Jason's brought it up. Does smu, Miami, do both of them get in and then you kick Indiana out and say there's only one loss. Miami, Clemson. You know, Jason said he doesn't like them if they beat South Carolina this weekend. They're lost. They have losses against Louisville, Not a bad team. And they got smoked in the opener against Georgia, Clemson, Clemson might be able to sneak themselves in here. I don't think they can, but they might. [00:15:47] Speaker A: I think like the big winners from all these upsets are definitely Miami and especially Georgia too. You're gonna make a Comment, Jason? [00:15:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I was gonna say no, I liked Clemson. They were my pick to win the ACC at the start of the year even though they came out terrible against Georgia. But they looked, they looked great all up until that Louisville game. And so, you know, they've, they got a tough win over a pit team that was, you know, pretty good at the time, but not as good looking now. So you know, I think Clemson's kind of there, but I think the ACC does have its rights that hey, we should get two teams in this too. I know. I saw over Twitter from, from smu, like everyone in SMU from the rankings last year, at least a few I saw because I have Notre Dame on my feed. So everyone was complaining that SMU was in or not in over Notre Dame, but you know, Notre Dame for their credit. And we'll talk about that more later too. Like Notre Dame's played, I think the most bull eligible teams this year for victory so far. So there's, there's a lot of arguments And I think SMU's resume is pretty good on it. But Darren's point, yeah, they, they probably should get two teams if Clemson wins out here and you know, maybe there's a smu, Miami ACC title game. However this checks out. [00:16:54] Speaker A: There's like some other close calls. Penn State barely escaped Minnesota. That was a weird game. Boise State looked like they're about to lose to Wyoming. That was a good game. That, that was really exciting till, till the end I thought they were not going to make it. Don't know how they pulled that out. What do you guys think of those? Like how does that affect their chances the past few weeks? [00:17:15] Speaker B: Boise State just has to win. Yeah, they just gotta keep winning. Yeah, I mean they're gonna be, they're the highest ranked team right now. The group of five non power conference teams looks like they could play because I just saw Fresno State beat Colorado State. So it looks like UNLV is going to jump back into that conference game. Remember Boise State went there to UNLV and beat them about a month ago. That would be a good matchup. But the interesting thing about that conference is the team the best record host the home game. So I believe Boise State will host the conference championship on their home stadium, which benefits them, which I, I have to like them getting in. And given that their only loss was against Oregon, a game they played their ass off. Oregon had a punt return and a kick return for touchdown. Boise stave, they went out is in. I got no problem with that. [00:18:01] Speaker A: What you guys think of the Texas A&M4 overtime thriller against Auburn. [00:18:06] Speaker B: I, I don't like college football's overtime rules that they change from after two overtimes. Now you're just going for two point conversions. It feels like soccer now. It feels like soccer now. Where it's like the penalty kicks. [00:18:17] Speaker A: I hate penalty kicks. [00:18:18] Speaker B: It's stupid. [00:18:19] Speaker A: It's a crap shoot. [00:18:20] Speaker C: Penalty kicks are awesome. Yeah man, get out of here. [00:18:22] Speaker A: You like them? [00:18:23] Speaker B: I can't stand penalty. [00:18:24] Speaker C: I love penalty. I love penalty kicks. [00:18:27] Speaker B: I just not to decide a world cup or a championship game. [00:18:31] Speaker A: Well dude, like they're already playing for fucking, you know, two hours almost. [00:18:35] Speaker B: Keep going man. Football, warm nutrition. That's the thing about football. They changed the rule in college about two, three years ago because there was a seven overtime game between lsu. Might have been LSU and Texas A and M. Those LSU for somebody, I forget who their opponent was. And then they called, oh you know we want, we want safety. They safety now these fucking college kids are playing 18 games a year now they're playing all these extra games and then they're talking about now they already got rid of stopping the clock on first downs so there's less plays. I don't want to hear about safety going into a third overtime. They my A M team possibly getting into a playoff. I hope A and M kicks Texas ass this week and that's all I give a about. I don't care who else wins. [00:19:14] Speaker A: Just give me that ass, dude. [00:19:16] Speaker B: I think, I think yours is going to be on his ass getting a turkey shoved up there. Yeah, I like A and M this weekend to beat him personally. [00:19:22] Speaker A: Yeah, you have like no backing for that one. But I, I get it. [00:19:25] Speaker B: Texas is on upset alert, bro. They are. They've been warned. [00:19:29] Speaker A: Here's the dude. [00:19:30] Speaker C: Spoiler, spoiler alert for his games to watch. This. [00:19:34] Speaker A: This guy's full hate mode. What do you guys think of the BYU? BYU's finally out. What was that? Two or three losses in a row now. [00:19:42] Speaker C: That was two losses in a row. Yep. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Did you call that, Aaron? [00:19:47] Speaker B: I did tell you Arizona State was going to beat him. Yeah, but BYU's not dead yet because Colorado lost. If BYU wins in Iowa State loses this weekend, BYU's will see Arizona State again. But Arizona State does play Arizona. But Arizona's a mess right now. Arizona State will win that game. I'd be surprised if they don't. [00:20:06] Speaker C: You got four teams at 6 and 2 in the Big 12 right now for the conference record with Arizona State, BYU, Colorado and Iowa State. So it's it's gonna be razor thin to tiebreakers here on who's in the Big 12 title game. [00:20:21] Speaker B: I think it just comes. I think it just comes down to the final playoff ranking. If all those teams are the same, and right now, Arizona State and Iowa State will be ahead of BYU and Colorado if it finishes out that way. [00:20:34] Speaker A: Yeah, ASU made some ground. They're now 14th in the country right underneath Alabama. Clemson's just right above them. Do you guys agree with the top 10 rankings? Top 12? We got Oregon still at number one, Ohio State number two, Texas number three. I think that's pretty consensus. The top three teams in the country, at least for me. And then underneath that, I don't know, it gets kind of, you know, muddly. Muddily. Is that a word? Muddy, I believe. Muddy. Muddily. I don't know. [00:21:05] Speaker C: It's muddy. We're in the. We're in the mud. So muddy. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Well, you got Penn State for Notre Dame, 5, Georgia at 6. So Georgia rebounded nicely, you know, from. From those losses in Tennessee, Miami, SMU number nine and then Indiana. [00:21:26] Speaker B: I personally would have Notre Dame ahead of Penn State. I'd have Georgia ahead of Penn State too. So I'd probably go Notre Dame 4, Georgia 5, Penn State 6, Tennessee 7, Miami 8, SMU 9. And I would jump Boise State over Indiana. I'd pick Boise state at number 10. [00:21:44] Speaker A: That's a tough one. [00:21:47] Speaker B: The stream of schedule against better competition showed out better. So I'd pin them ahead of Indiana. [00:21:53] Speaker C: Yeah. When you look at their biggest game of the year that they both lost. Boise State was close against number one ranked Oregon, where Indiana was not close against number two ranked Ohio State. Yeah, I agree with you guys on Notre Dame. That's homer bias thing. But Notre Dame has been very impressive, you know, the last stretch of games and they really have. They have it all working. I know. Rome, you text me on Saturday, you didn't think they were this good. [00:22:19] Speaker A: I didn't know. [00:22:21] Speaker C: I mean, there's a lot of hype. [00:22:23] Speaker A: Go ahead. [00:22:25] Speaker C: There was a lot of hype on Navy before that game. They blew him out. There was a lot of hype on army before this game. They blew them out. So, I mean, this team's moving. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Well. [00:22:35] Speaker A: I think being Aaron were talking about it, the. We weren't sure how good army was. Right. But like the line was like what, two touchdowns at least. Was it 13 or 14 points? [00:22:43] Speaker B: It was 14. I mean we, we like the. Over which Notre Dame hit themselves. I mean, I didn't get why it was 44 and a half. It should have, it should have probably been about in the 55 range. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:53] Speaker B: So that was an easy victory for us. [00:22:56] Speaker A: Yeah, they got, Notre Dame's pretty good. [00:22:59] Speaker C: Yeah, their, their running game is, you know, excellent. And it's not just one way, you know, starting with Jeremiah Love. To me, he, he's, he's the game breaker of that team. Proved it during army once. The, the Notre Dame turnaround since Northern Illinois really has been getting Riley Leonard out there and him running the ball and throwing the ball and he's been the second leading rusher on the team. And then they have an addition back with Jadarian Price who's also just as dynamic as Love. So Notre Dame's able to hit you in a lot of different ways in the running game, and then they pass when they absolutely have to, but in a lot of instances, you know, they don't need to. Their defense can. Stopping the run is probably one of the best in the nation. You know, will that be able to hold up against the SEC teams? That's always like the big question for Notre Dame because in the past, you know, they go against, you know, bigger offensive and defensive linemen in the trenches is where Notre Dame has struggled. So when they get to the playoff, that'll be the big question mark for them. But I think they have the dynamic players to do it. The number five ranking, I'll agree because I think where Notre Dame, you know, they're locked in at five if they went out because they can't get the first round by, so they're gonna have to play the home game in South Bend likely, and it's probably going to be freezing and that could play to Notre Dame's advantage. But, you know, they, they looked really good. But I, I'm not going to get too overconfident going into this week against usc, because I think usc, while they haven't had a great year, they still got some talent. And this is an ultimate kind of sleeping game with, with Notre Dame. If they're not careful, they got to travel out Southern California. [00:24:39] Speaker A: If Notre Dame doesn't whip them by at least two, three touchdowns, I'd be really disappointed. I dropped them out of the top five of the rankings. [00:24:45] Speaker C: I would be too. I would be too. But it's, it's a rivalry game and, and no. And USC's got something to play for to really kick Notre Dame in the teeth to end the season. [00:24:55] Speaker B: So I, I, I'm looking at the line, line seven and a half. Nordam will cover that they'll go in there, they'll beat USC by double digits. I think Notre Dame's impressive. Like Jason said, that defense, that defense is really good. What worries me about Notre Dame is can they get into a shootout of one of these bigger teams from the Big Ten in the SEC and keep pace? I think Leonard can run. He's been inconsistent throwing the ball. They haven't gotten behind like they did against Northern Illinois. They haven't really been behind since. Notre Dame is a good football team. They'll host a playoff game maybe. Maybe they'll get Indiana or somebody like that to see how big they are. That'd be a good football game. That's got good offense. I would watch it the playoffs. [00:25:35] Speaker A: It's gonna be. [00:25:35] Speaker B: It's gonna be cold, but, yeah, Notre Dame's gonna smoke USC this weekend and. But, hey, congratulations, usc. You did get bowl eligible. [00:25:44] Speaker A: Yeah, whatever. Before we wrap things up, congratulations, Nebraska, Cornhawk, Huskers, big, big victory. Becoming bowl eligible for the first time since 2016. They looked really dominant, man. They scored, I think, the most points they scored this year. Wisconsin, who has been, man, an enigma all season long. Beating good teams, losing the bad teams, beating good teams, losing the bad teams, putting up a tough fight. They got their ass beat and that was. It was. It was good. My team swim. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Wisconsin reminds me of the Indianapolis Colts. You don't know what you're going to get week to week. Man, they're a tough out. They could be a tough out. Or like you mentioned, Rome, Riola, this is the best I seen them play all year. I want to come out of that game. Because if you go back and listen to the pod last week, double guaranteed. I said you did. Nebraska would get bowl eligible. So anybody that bet their mortgage, their yearly payment, you doubled up. And I'll take a thank you on Twitter. [00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's really good. [00:26:45] Speaker C: Before we go and kind of move on from college, Heisman Trophy, kind of looking forward right now. [00:26:52] Speaker A: What are you thinking? [00:26:53] Speaker C: Well, I suppose bring it up because Ashton Genty went over 2, 000 yards through 11 games. So I saw it interesting, you know, stuff online. He's the first running back since aldanian Tomlinson in 2000 to hit over 2, 000 yards in 11 games. And it puts him in this company for 2, 000 yards and 25 rushing touchdowns at 11 games. Barry Sanders, Ricky Williams and Ashton Gentee. That's it. So I think he's pretty much got this thing on lock at this point. Travis Hunter has struggled, Cam Ward, I think was the other name, put it in there. But I think they need some big showings here in the. In the ACC title game for can war. But given the. Given kind of the rare air Ashton Gentee's in right now, I. I don't know how he doesn't win the Heisman right now. [00:27:45] Speaker A: I actually hear more stuff about Travis Hunter kind of leading the way for the Heisman boat just because he's pretty dominant on both sides of the ball. He had a pretty good game this past weekend despite his team falling, but that's pretty tough. Who else would you put? [00:27:59] Speaker B: It's just those three guys, man. Jinty, Hunter and Ward. Those are the three guys. There's the three finalists. No one else needs to go to New York. [00:28:08] Speaker A: All right. Anything else? [00:28:11] Speaker C: They were good. [00:28:13] Speaker A: I'm looking at the odds right now. Yeah, there's no one else, dude. Milro. [00:28:24] Speaker B: He looked terrible. [00:28:26] Speaker C: They don't want him back in Alabama right now. [00:28:29] Speaker B: They were talking about a month ago, him being the first round NFL pick, he might have went to day three. [00:28:34] Speaker A: Well, we were pretty harsh on him at the beginning of the season, seeing if he would make the leap. Then it looked like he was making strides, playing really well. And then those three losses, man, have not looked good. Even some of those victories. Yeah. All right, cool. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, NFL time for some NFL talk. Hell of a weekend. We thought it was gonna kind of be like a dead weekend and ended up being a lot of fun, a lot of close games, some ass beatings, some surprise. I don't know where to start. Let's start with tonight's game. Man, it was just. It's fresh, right? The hardball bowl. Both you guys had the Ravens. I picked the Charters in an upset, which I think put me at. You guys had a pretty good weekend on picks. Let me pull it up right here. [00:29:31] Speaker B: I believe. I don't know what Jay. I mean, me and Jason had similar picks. 93 against. Against the spread this week. [00:29:39] Speaker A: I had you guys at seven and four. [00:29:42] Speaker B: I got nine and three. [00:29:43] Speaker A: So eight with today's win. [00:29:47] Speaker B: I got nine, but okay. [00:29:49] Speaker A: Well, with what you submitted for the Twitter. [00:29:52] Speaker B: No, I think with Twitter. Twitter was what, 4 and 2 on Twitter. [00:29:57] Speaker A: Nice. Other double, check that. But yeah, Ravens, Chargers. Derek Henry looked really nice. Almost broke away for some long runs in the middle of that game. I thought the penalties really cost Ravens in the beginning. Chargers really in the way. I thought they might pull away. They got. They couldn't really, you know, complete the task of getting touchdowns. Instead they settled for field goals and kind of left the door open. And then Ravens, I think at the end of the second half, going to the halftime, they scored and then didn't really look back. This is a big win for the Ravens. I thought it's a nice bounce back game. They look dominant and kind of put the rest of the NFL and notice quite again it's, it's them, I would say Eagles as well. The Bills in Detroit, possibly the top four teams in the country. Chargers, I don't know. It's a good loss, no harm, no foul. They're not going to put any pressure on the Chiefs in that division anymore. That's done with. So we'll see how they finish out for the wild card spot. But thoughts on that game? [00:31:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean Aaron and I talked about Derek Henry and Saquon. Really, you know, how important those pieces have been for both of those offenses this year because you had really good teams that potentially have now made great by having an elite running back. And when you're able to lean on Derek Henry in a game like this, you know, 24 carries, 140 yards, you know, Lamar can do some of his stuff, but he doesn't have to do everything. You know, Lamar only threw for 177 yards but was efficient. Two touchdowns, you know, no turnovers. You know, there's, there's a lot of elements you got to guard in that Ravens backfield. And you know, I guess these are one of those offenses you talk about that's great in January when the weather isn't as good because they really can, you know, they can do it different ways on the ground. I mean, even Justice Hill, you know, with that huge run there late in the game as well too. So there's some different. [00:32:03] Speaker A: That was 51 yard run. [00:32:05] Speaker C: Yeah. So, you know, there's some different dynamic, you know, playmaking abilities that you can have, you know, around the offense. And then Mark Andrews has kind of been, you know, heating up a little bit over the past couple weeks. You know, when they need him, when it matters most, kind of in the red zone. So you know, the Ravens, you know, I've been super high on, you know, all year, you know, think they were ready to take this next step. Had some bumps in the road, but I think they got those dynamic playmaking abilities for the Chargers. You know, I don't know if Aaron agrees with me on this. The Chargers are probably a year ahead of where they probably should be. They really, they really tore a ton of this team down of how much they got rid of, you know, offensively they basically, you know, got all new pieces for around Justin Herbert for this year. They kept some of the defensive core which has really been what they've been able to lean on. But you know, a lot of the new pieces on offense, you know, some of the cast offs From Baltimore with J.K. dobbins and Gus Edwards which are, hey, they're great serviceable running backs but they're not, they're not game big game breakers by any means. And then from a wide receivers perspective, you know, you get rid of Keaton Allen and some of the other guys that they had in there, you know, Ladd McConkey starting, you know, to really did develop there. Joshua Palmer pick up has been a nice pickup. So. But you know, I think, I think the team's still evolving and they're probably, you know, those few pieces away from hey, this is going to be a top tier AFC team right now. Yeah, they're, they're middle to low of the playoff picture in the afc. But I think, you know, like I said, they're a year ahead. So I don't, I don't know if it's a good loss. I don't think Jim Harbaugh will ever take a loss. But, but I still think it was that they've had an impressive season so far and this was the game the Ravens really needed to win to keep pace in the AFC for those top seeds. [00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean the Chargers, we kind of came in the season not sure what we're going to get. More a better team, more disciplined team. We've gotten that they don't turn the ball over, they don't make a lot of mental errors. The defense has been good. They had the number one scoring defense coming into this game. But the question was they hadn't played a legit offense. Right? [00:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:00] Speaker B: So now you got Cincinnati dropped what, 27 on them. Now you got. Baltimore's dropped 30 on them. Before that no one had scored more than 20, which Pittsburgh did back in Week 3. So for the Chargers, like Jason said, they're a year ahead of schedule. Looks like they're probably going to get into the playoffs whether it's a six or seven spot because they got a two game lead over everybody else that's still in the hunt. But Miami's over there looming. That's probably the one team right now between I say Miami, Denver and the Chargers. Two of those three are going to get in for those final spots. And the Ravens right now, Raven Steelers, man. I mean Steelers that lost Thursday nights looming big given that Baltimore came back, tied him up in the wind column. Baltimore still hasn't had their buy. Ironically the the game of the year. Maybe the NFL is coming up with Pittsburgh with, excuse me, Baltimore and Philadelphia this weekend in Baltimore. [00:34:58] Speaker A: That's gonna be a hell of a game. [00:35:01] Speaker B: Big game. [00:35:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Fun game. So looking back, Steelers, that was a tough snow game. But this weekend I'm trying to remember, man, like what's like the kind of like having a toss up like with like heartbreaking losses right now. The commanders coming back from behind like hail Mary Part 2 to miss a extra point. But it didn't even matter anyways because it was a kickoff return for a touchdown after that and that kind of, kind of sealed the game. That was pretty heartbreaking. Or like the Texans losing to the Titans. That was pretty tough. Jason's Bears, they looked good. Thank God I had him at three and a half because they definitely covered. I get, you know, since Vikings did kind of control the ball most of the game and the Bears roared back in the fourth quarter, they probably deserve to win. I'm not really sure. Good progress either way. Anything else sticks out? I don't think so, actually. [00:36:03] Speaker C: I don't know. I mean the Buccaneers, you know, came out, came out of their bye week and absolutely destroyed the Giants. We can rewind the tape, but I'm pretty sure I think we all called that one. Judging where there was at the Panthers, I don't know if you can say good loss, but I mean I, I, I don't want to say I told you so. I, I think someone on this show basically said when I said the Panthers were going to cover because the Chiefs aren't blowing anyone out and the Panthers have looked better. You know, I think one of us might have been me. I don't know. A lot of people were very critical on the benching of Bryce Young earlier in the season. But that has proven to be, you know, a very, you know, a very good thing for Bryce to take a step back and let Andy Dalton start some of those games and has really as he's re inherited that starting role, you know, has really done a lot and he's doing it for after they think they traded what they're three top wide receivers right before the trade lid line. So they're getting all these young kids and they're playing with him. So I mean that, that was really good performance for me. [00:37:00] Speaker A: Yeah, Young looked really good and, and almost came away with it. I hate how this Just another Chiefs victory like that. Right. They're just cruising along then kicking field goals for the win. That really pissed me off. [00:37:13] Speaker B: Well, yeah, not only. Not only that, you have Mahomes. What about that 30 yard sideline run where he. Where he again fakes like he's gonna go out and then runs another 10 yards? [00:37:21] Speaker A: They got a bad. That. [00:37:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. [00:37:23] Speaker A: He's done that way too many times. Someone just needs to truck him and knock him out for a couple weeks, so. And he won't do that anymore. Like, where's James Harrison when you need him? Right. We need someone like that big, bruising linebacker. Just him up and. Yeah, I don't like that. [00:37:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I agree. If you're going to do it and then you want to chicken out and take a hit, you know, sometimes as a referee, you got to swallow the flag and say, hey, dude, if you want to play that, you know, fake, pump fake, go out, you're going to eat a hit and we're going to allow it. [00:37:51] Speaker A: It kind of reminds me, I wasn't sure if it was NFL or in college football. Someone faked the slide, but they only went halfway. Then they took off for a touchdown. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Can he pick it back at Pittsburgh? [00:38:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:00] Speaker B: Football. Yeah. And they warned them. They warned them on. [00:38:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I. They put a kibosh on that really quickly. They should do the same thing for this. That's really funny. It was Kenny Pickett. Really. [00:38:10] Speaker B: I believe it was hilarious. [00:38:11] Speaker A: That's hilarious. Where's he at? [00:38:15] Speaker C: Yeah, poor guy. [00:38:18] Speaker B: He comes in and takes snaps at the end, goes in victory formation. [00:38:21] Speaker A: Does he? Yeah, you're right, man. That. I was really. You did have the points, Jason. I had the Chiefs in a blowout. Yeah. [00:38:32] Speaker B: But, yeah, Bryce Young, like Jason mentioned, he's. He's looking really good. [00:38:35] Speaker A: He looks really nice. [00:38:35] Speaker B: They've. They've done a good job of simplifying the game for him. Just, hey, read one, read two. Get rid of the ball quick. He's not holding it. He doesn't look like he's shaky back there. He looks confident now. He's seen what he's reading the defense. He's making the throws right away. And he's got arm talent. Yeah, I mean, we've seen it. [00:38:52] Speaker A: Alabama. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he could. He could see. He can move around in the pocket. But they've. They've simplified the game and that benching for him has helped out a lot. I mean, the Chiefs got a good defense. They've been struggling a bit. It seems like maybe some people are figuring some things out on them. But for them to go out and score 27 points against Kansas City, I didn't see that coming. [00:39:10] Speaker A: I'm rooting for a young man. He looked more like Mike himself. We haven't seen him in two years. You're right. That's a good loss. That's a really good loss. [00:39:19] Speaker C: It really speaks to the development of young quarterbacks we talked about before you start throwing these guys out in week one of their rookie year. Like not all of them, not all of them are ready, you know, and depending, depending on the situation, depending on, you know, the talent around them and, and how, you know, how much time do they get in the off season and prepare for this? Like sometimes they're, they're not ready. An established starter who's been around the game can be a little more serviceable. He's not the long term solution like Andy Dalton, but hey, we can get some him. Give Bryson, you know, to step back, ruin a lot of quarterbacks when, you know, rushing him into, I mean, the Packers. As much as I hate to give the packers credit on stuff like, hey, over the last two successor quarterbacks they've had, they've drafted, they've stayed as backups for like what, three years or something? Years. Yeah, they've been around. They understand the studying, they've taken reps with the team, you know, they've maybe gotten some, you know, in game reps here or there and then when the time comes, they've seen a ton of stuff in practice to be ready and aren't in even at that point. Even Jordan Love, you know, did his first start. I don't think the expectations were like through the roof. Oh, this guy's gonna be Aaron Rodgers. And he wasn't at first, but then had a good back half of the season. So there, there's, there's different ways I think from developing quarterback, you even look at someone like Baker Mayfield right now, like Baker had a great first year and then struggled and this and that. But then has been really lights out for the Buccaneers the last two years in the system. He's been so. There's, there's ways that we just. Not everyone's a bus after the first, you know, season or you know, a couple starts like everyone's talked through. You know, I heard it enough with Caleb Williams this year and he was a bus. He looked absolutely, you know, elite on Sunday. [00:40:55] Speaker A: He looked good. He looked good. [00:40:57] Speaker B: He made Caleb made some throws on Sunday that not a lot of quarterbacks. [00:41:00] Speaker A: He looks good. [00:41:01] Speaker B: I mean he threw some dimes. Rolling right off one foot, 40 yards of swift like dimes. [00:41:07] Speaker C: Yeah, that was, that was an insane run. Even. Even when he did to DJ Moore, that was basically like over three guys into like Titus window. I sent a text to my friends. I was like, the window was the size of the ball and they had no plus or minus anywhere else. And he actually nailed it and did that several times. And so. Yeah, but it, you know, it took a few games to get there, but. Okay, cool. He's starting to show why he was the number one overall pick. [00:41:33] Speaker A: Well, it was a good fire firing their offensive coordinator. So no, they just gotta get rid. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Of the head coach. [00:41:39] Speaker A: We'll see how that goes. [00:41:40] Speaker C: Yeah. What did you text me, Rome? I don't even know. You take just something about the loss. But if there's a, if there's a good loss in this, to be honest with you, this is like the best possible scenario. If Caleb Williams looks great and they continue to find something and he shows what he can do as a future starter and they happen to lose because of the head coach, then I think those are, those are the best losses forward for the Bears. Because you know, we talked through some of the bad coaching win loss records. I think Rome, I think off air even texted us like was the three losing his coaches records and Eber Fluss was the absolute worst. Like, yeah, when you brought it up. [00:42:21] Speaker A: I decided to look it up. I was like, okay, here we go. [00:42:24] Speaker C: Yeah. And that's where it's at. Like this, this is in year three. And like, you know, sometimes you can get the first year grace, but like in the NFL, it's the easiest sport to do the turnaround. And you look at Jim Harbaugh, you know what he's able to do right now. And in year three, you need to be making significant progress towards victory or else you're not going to be employed. You know, I guess my only concern as a Bears fan, and I'm sure we'll have weeks and weeks to talk about this, is who is going to be replacing them. Because this has all the hallmarkings of the Bears messing up the hire. So we'll see how well that turns out to but impressive for the Bears come back I think because this is this at least the second time. Maybe Aaron, but he. Caleb's led them back against Washington when they were down, led them back against now, you know, the Vikings this week. So when it's come to crunch time, he's driven them down the field. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Oh, he looked good. It was A step in the right direction, I think. Yeah. You know, I don't want to beat a dead horse multiple times. I thought the expectations were way too high. But losses like these, games like this, exactly what what you want, seeing what you got underneath the hood. Speaking of like losses though, some teams that didn't even bother showing up, man, they're already on Thanksgiving break. Cardinals, I picked them to win that game. They didn't even show up. Dude. Kyle Kyler. At least I got his first name right. Murphy. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think you got his first. [00:43:47] Speaker C: Kyle Murphy showed up. [00:43:52] Speaker B: Kyle Murphy. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Go man. Kyle Murphy. [00:43:56] Speaker B: That is. He showed up. [00:43:57] Speaker A: He looked bad. They looked bad. So Seahawks are in the control for that division now. [00:44:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:04] Speaker A: The Giants did not show up at all. They're imploding. [00:44:11] Speaker C: I, I don't know. I don't know how day ball survives this. They got to be firing everyone, right? [00:44:16] Speaker A: I, I didn't think Daywall would be getting fired, but it seems like they just lost that locker room now. That was for sure. They're lost. But they also just kind of gave up on the team. You know, just putting Daniel Jones playing safety in practice, then cutting him. You know, they've let their best player in more than a decade walk away to the division rivals, you know, to save some space for their 40 million dollar quarterback just to cut them, you know, six months later. It's a, it's a firestorm for sure, man. It's pretty epic actually. They, they should definitely do NFL films about this one day. [00:44:50] Speaker C: There's, I don't know this, the stats offhand, but the, I think the two worst win loss records since like, I don't know if it's like 2017 or 2018 is like the jets and the Giants. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:02] Speaker C: Just for like that tracks how bad. [00:45:05] Speaker B: And like the worst home records too. Like MetLife Stadium for the home team is like terrible. I want to say they're like a 28 win percentage. Some craziness. [00:45:14] Speaker A: We should look that up really quick. Anybody else? You know, I, I know that Colts lost, you know, 24, 6, but they played a pretty tough game. I gotta show them some love, man. That was pretty tight. [00:45:29] Speaker C: Yeah. You talked about glossing over. I believe I called them to cover. I didn't call the outset but the Titans being the Texans, I thought was, was very unexpected from it from an upset perspective because man, the Texans as much as everyone said they were taking this nice leap and everything this year they have lost some bad games this year. [00:45:48] Speaker A: They have, we all had Texans with the Points. Aaron called a blowout win, 20 plus points, so. Missed a couple of those. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Yeah, that, that one shocked me, man. That, that one did shock me. I mean the Texas came out two plays in, we're up 7 0. I was like, damn, this one's looking good. And then Will Levis connecting on some bombs. I mean he looked good. Yeah. But Houston, Houston's kind of just a weird team. Like I, you know, I, I picked him to get to the Super Bowl. Thought they were ready to take that leap. They look like they're just not there yet. I mean, they've lost this game. They've lost. They lost to the Jets a little. [00:46:27] Speaker A: Too hard on that. [00:46:28] Speaker B: So I actually called that jets upset. But this one against Tennessee I thought. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Was going to be a blowout for sure night game. [00:46:37] Speaker B: But they blew that. Now they got Jacksonville then a buy. They've got a tough schedule at the end. They're likely still going to win that division because they got a two game lead. But Houston was disappointing. And Rome. I want to go back to Arizona. I mean Arizona that, that division right now as a whole. I know, I know. A week ago I said the 49ers were not going to make the playoffs with it. Last week or two weeks ago, it. [00:47:00] Speaker A: Was last week I put the video for them. This past weekend I watched every team. [00:47:03] Speaker B: In the, in the NFC West. [00:47:07] Speaker A: This week I did not watch the Rams too much. [00:47:10] Speaker B: I watched every one of those games. And I'm going to jump course again. The 49ers are going to come back and win that division. I'm not convinced that anybody. I'm not convinced of what I saw from these other teams. I'm not happy with them. I know the 49ers were embarrassed by Green Bay, but they're going to come back and win that division. [00:47:25] Speaker A: Yeah, they're pretty banged up, you know. Yeah, they're five and six. But the Rams lost, Cards lost. So now Seahawks are in the driver's position. Yeah, that division is just not. I don't know. They might. [00:47:40] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:47:40] Speaker A: They might. There's a chance. [00:47:41] Speaker C: I gave you excellent analysis last week that the Seahawks were going to win because it was in Seattle. So I don't know. I don't know how much more I can give you on the NFC West. The NFC west has been interesting. You know, I, it was probably one of the best divisions in football for a period of time with how stacked it was. But then I'm. I'm harken back to a time when I think it was. Was it the Cardinals and Seahawks? They were both like six and nine and they. [00:48:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they. [00:48:10] Speaker C: They flex the game to Sunday night football for two below 500 teams. Like winner wins the division and gets in. But no matter what, we have a losing record, team winning. So I think maybe that's what's going to happen this year at this point. You know who's going to be first to eight wins? [00:48:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we counted nine wins max for the 49ers. [00:48:28] Speaker B: Well, the 49ers. Well, they got to get healthy, man. [00:48:31] Speaker A: They got to get healthy, dude. What's. [00:48:33] Speaker B: I'm not surprised at Green Bay. They're gonna give Buffalo a game this weekend and then I think they can write the from there. [00:48:41] Speaker C: Yeah, if they write the from there, I'll be in person potentially for that game. We'll see. For that Bears Niners game, I might be for that. [00:48:50] Speaker A: I. I might be there for that game as well. [00:48:53] Speaker B: Maybe Jason can get you that VIP pass. [00:48:56] Speaker C: We'll see, man. We'll see. [00:48:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Let me go back to the games this week just because there's so much that happened. [00:49:02] Speaker C: I don't think we've talked enough about the ending of the commanders in Cowboys game, though. [00:49:08] Speaker A: Let's go to it. [00:49:09] Speaker C: As bad as the Bears games was for me, like I was getting text at the same time what was going on in this commander's Cowboys game. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Dude, it was wild, man. It was a fun game. And I don't us it just feels like that kind of took the sales out of the season. It was just one of those crazy losses. Kind of like what happened to the Bears. Right. It came back to them to bite him the ass a couple weeks later. It just felt like a really defeating loss. You guys want to recap the end of that game? [00:49:40] Speaker B: Well, I mean, the commanders, the commander should have lost that game regardless. It should. They shouldn't even gotten back to within one point. Yeah, I mean, Dallas is out playing them throughout. The turnovers, the mistakes. [00:49:51] Speaker C: Yeah, Aaron mentioned I think last week just Jaden Daniels's injury. But like, if you look even. I think since the Bears game, I don't think he's been particularly impressive in any of the performances, whether it's injury or not. In the first half of this game, he looked absolutely dreadful. The offense like went nowhere. I think the end of the game stats kind of made up for it. But the last touchdown pass, like that's complete, you know, botched by the Cowboys. Like, that should not have went for a touchdown. Like one of the most absurd plays ever. So there's a little bit of a luck involved when we're given, you know, Jaden Daniels. Like, I'm not trying to be down on the guy as a talent and anything, but like, I think he even locked him in, you know, and I probably said it, locking him in for rookie of the year when we were going through that a couple weeks. But like he hasn't looked impressive. He hasn't gotten better. Caleb Williams gotten better. Aaron's guy, Bo Nix has been increasingly getting better too. So I think there's a lot of competition. Were there where, yeah, this was deflating. The Bears fan in me though, was kind of happy about it for the Commanders fans because they really danced all over our grave for a win they didn't deserve. So it was kind of funny watching some of the reaction of the Commanders fans that they locked in for this win and then no one was paying attention to the extra, extra point. And then all of a sudden like, wait, what? We, we missed it? I didn't even know. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Well, you already missed one earlier. There was discussion to go for two. They then do the extra point, he misses and then on the outside kick, it gets returned for a touchdown, which then, you know, Dallas is all worried because the guy, all he had to do is take a. Take a knee. They take a knee, the game's over. Now you got to get back to another Hail Mary, which, you know, Jaden Daniels basically throws it about two or three yards again kind of short of the end zone. But luckily it doesn't get batted up and they knock it down and it's game over. But yeah, just wild, wild. [00:51:38] Speaker C: I don't know if you can think of three consecutive plays that could have ended the game where if Dallas just tackles Terry McLaren, the game's over. You know, if they just go down on recovering the onside kick, the game's over. Like this is almost like when I'm playing Madden or NCAA Football 25 with a minute left and I'm just chucking the ball up left and right to get more reps in. Like what is going on in this game right now? We just need to make. Just go down and the game's over. [00:52:05] Speaker B: To be fair, if I had recovered that on site kick, I would have ran it into. It's just like one of those things where you get it and you're like, oh, there's nobody, there's nobody here. When are you ever going to get a touchdown again? Like he's all celebrating like Dallas, like Coach McCarthy's like, like happy, but like, at the same time, like, why'd you not go down? Like, Jerry Jones is up there fanning himself off like he's just, you know, about to have a heart attack up there. Like you don't know what's going on. [00:52:30] Speaker A: No one gave Dallas the time of day, a chance to be competitive. [00:52:34] Speaker B: I did have Dallas plus 10. [00:52:36] Speaker A: You did have Dallas plus 10. Me and Jason picked the commanders, but Cooper Rush looked really good. The offense, just the play calling looked pretty solid. It was a hell of a coaching job by McCarthy and he's gonna have no problem finding another job after this year. But they came out to play. It was surprising to see they. He hasn't lost that team yet. They're still showing some grit. And 4 and 7, we're looking at that division. They're gonna be playing like that for the rest of the year. They can probably ruin a lot of people's seasons the rest of the way. We'll see. [00:53:09] Speaker C: You think McCarthy is going to find a job at the end of the season? [00:53:13] Speaker B: Yeah, No, I think he's done, man. I think. [00:53:16] Speaker C: No. Who is hiring that? Man? [00:53:19] Speaker A: He'll get another job. I don't think the Cowards is his last job. [00:53:23] Speaker C: Yeah, the UFL is hiring his. [00:53:26] Speaker A: He has a stellar record, man. You know, someone's gonna give another chance. [00:53:31] Speaker C: What's his record? What, one super bowl title. He got basically run out of Green Bay and got brought over here to be just Jerry Jones's. I'm gonna do whatever. And what? He's only gotten worse at the Cowboys. This team's only gotten worse. [00:53:46] Speaker A: It got bad this year. They also have a lot of entries, but he's brought them to 12 wins every single year. [00:53:52] Speaker B: 12 wins three straight years and one playoff one. I mean, I. Yeah, I don't see him getting another gig. I mean, he's. What? He's already in his 60s. The NFL's trending towards younger coaches now. I don't see him getting another gig. I think the big question is, I want to know, Rome, is Jaden Daniels still your rookie of the year? Is Bo Nick's finally taking the leap forward? [00:54:12] Speaker A: I disagree with Jason. I think Jason likes to hate a little extra hard on Jada Daniels. 100% good stats. I think he's still in the lead. We got a lot of football to go. Still all of December. But Bo Nicks, man, I might have to zag the other way and go go with Bo Dicks. If I see like another week of. [00:54:34] Speaker B: He's got the Browns on Monday. He's got the Browns on Monday night. He's going to do something Pittsburgh couldn't do and beat them, too. [00:54:40] Speaker A: We'll see. Browns look pretty good, too. This past week. They finally woke up. They got Chubb back. Chubb looked like he kind of energized the whole team. So we'll see, man. We'll see. Who do you got? [00:54:52] Speaker B: You already know who I got, man. [00:54:53] Speaker A: Your bonus all over the place, man. [00:54:55] Speaker B: I mean, that's just. That's. That's a win for the. That's a win for the Broncos next Monday night in Mile High. [00:55:00] Speaker A: In my high. [00:55:02] Speaker C: If we're talking rookie of the year, I think Jaden Daniels probably still has it. And I think you go to the political thing from a media perspective, like they crowned him early in the season. I think it's pretty much crowned at this point. And he's got the statistical advantage over the other two guys. Like continued so far. So even though he hasn't been great, like, Bonex didn't start off great. Caleb has been up and down as he goes. But. But Jaden went off to a hot start, has had some pretty, you know, good statistical performance. I think he'll still win. But. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's close right now. I'd like to see what the odds are. But Knicks is slowly but slowly shorting that gap. It's kind of like that F1 race on Saturday night. You know, it's getting a little close. It's getting a little close. [00:55:48] Speaker A: I think we talked about all the important games, right? [00:55:52] Speaker C: Yeah, if you. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Well, you. Well, we didn't talk a lot about the 49ers getting blown out, but I. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Don'T think we have to. They're depleted. They obviously didn't look good without Purdy. That was just an asshole band. I was at the bars. Every bar down here had the game on and everyone. It was just a sad looking site, man. All over the city, just sad fans just drinking their PBRs and they're Jameson for net shots. Looking all depressed. This. It's kind of funny. [00:56:26] Speaker C: All right, well, rookie rookie of the year as right now bet MGM Jaden Daniels minus 185. Bo Nicks plus 140. [00:56:34] Speaker B: Okay. [00:56:35] Speaker C: DraftKings has it at minus 135 for Jaden Daniels, plus 110 for bonus. [00:56:40] Speaker B: Okay, that's pretty shrinking. That's about. That's where I have it at. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Shrinking. [00:56:43] Speaker C: They're. They're the only two. Caleb Williams is nowhere near. It's plus 4,000 plus 5,000. The number three on the board is actually Brock Bowers. [00:56:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:56:53] Speaker C: I could see that, but he's at plus 2500, so. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Brock would be actually a pretty good pick. I think he's just like a few yards shy of Mike Dick of most receiving yards for a tight end. [00:57:04] Speaker B: He'll break down here soon. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe not. [00:57:07] Speaker B: I don't know who's gonna be throwing. [00:57:07] Speaker A: The ball games or first 11 games, but he's looking really solid, man. I know, Aaron. You've called that a long time ago. That's. That's a hell of a scouting job you did. [00:57:17] Speaker B: Georgia, man. It's Georgia. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Georgia. All the guys from Georgia are playing really good. You got the guy on the rookie. Yeah. On the Chargers. Bowers. [00:57:25] Speaker B: There's a reason why they should have been in three straight national title games. [00:57:27] Speaker A: There's a reason. Yeah, I know. We didn't talk about the Dolphins pats. I was kind of going for the pats, but they did not show up. And before I say Mac Jones again. Jesus Christ. Why am I. Drake May. Drake May was running for his life all day. He had no protection. They just look really bad. Coaching is bad. It's all bad. Dolphins, they just look so much different with tua. And now you got them. You guys like, like their odds to make a wild card? Maybe. [00:58:03] Speaker B: If they can win Thursday night in Green Bay. I like their chances. [00:58:07] Speaker A: Oh, is that. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Can they go into the cold weather and win a game against no second best team in the nfc? We're gonna find out the second best. [00:58:15] Speaker A: Team in the nfc. You got. Green Bay is the second best team in the nfc. [00:58:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:20] Speaker C: No way. Yeah. They're not better. They're not better than Philadelphia. [00:58:23] Speaker B: They're better than Philadelphia. [00:58:24] Speaker A: Do they. They haven't been good at all since like week one. [00:58:29] Speaker B: They're better than Philadelphia. [00:58:31] Speaker A: You're high. All right. I just want to hear your top NFC teams now. Top four. Let's go. [00:58:38] Speaker B: Top four NFC teams. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Fucking crazy. [00:58:42] Speaker C: Random number. [00:58:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Four is a random number. I'll go. Lions, Packers, Eagles, Vikings. Those are the top four teams. Nfc. [00:59:03] Speaker A: All right. Interesting. I disagree. All right. Are we done with NFL? [00:59:11] Speaker B: I'm ready for Formula one. [00:59:12] Speaker A: You ready for Formula one? All right. [00:59:14] Speaker B: I want to. I want to hear Jason's ran on Formula one, man. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Cool. Take a quick break. We'll be back. All right. Time for a little F1. It was in Las Vegas. It was awesome. It was at 10:00pm 10:00pm Start time. It was fun. I was at Shanghai Kelly's here in San Francisco. It's a big Steelers bar. Can't remember who else they root for over there. Trying a blank. A Boston College bar, too, as well. My friend had them change the USC UCLA game before I got there to one of the other TVs and put on F1 on two of their biggest TVs in the front, front and center. All of a sudden, everyone crowded in our corner of the bar watching F1, people asking, what the hell is going on? What's this and what's that? And to be honest with you, I think that's when I think the bartender bought me a Jameson shot or two. Now that I'm. Now that I'm recalling this right now, that explains why I did not feel good Sunday morning. So they caught me some shots. I know the bartender very well. He's like, I haven't seen you in like six months. Then all of a sudden I'm feeling good and I'm teaching everyone the little that I know about F1. It was pretty epic. Thank you so much, Jason. I don't know what happened when Drunk Rome was there, but he regurgitated some of that stuff that we covered on the podcast. And I think I probably converted like another 15 to 20 people to watch F1 for the rest of the year and even told about the pod and the cat shoe on the pod. So Professor J doing the Lord's work for us. But wow. [01:00:48] Speaker C: You know, maybe. Maybe drunk Rome doing F1. You know, maybe a new segment right here. You know, it shouldn't here, you know, we just start, you know, just drinking really late. I mean, generally we don't have the 10 o'clock start time. Usually it's 6am on a Sunday. But, you know, if we just stay. If Rome just stays out late enough on a Saturday night and just parlays it into a Sunday morning, he's done that before. I did it in Vegas earlier this year. Not for the Vegas Grand Prix, but they were. I forgot where they're racing at. But yeah, stayed up all night and then watched the Formula One race at 6am but yeah, going back to this year's race for the Las Vegas Grand Prix, man, I just. It's an interesting track because obviously has no. Has no history. And you know, from just establishing something on the Vegas strip, it's the most unique turnaround. Rome, I think you sent me an Instagram reel about it, which is actually very good. It was really good, very interesting. And really the. The basis about that is basically the track has more or less a pit crew because, hey, this is a Live street, the Strip is in Vegas throughout the week and obviously the other roads and they basically, you know, let this, let the roads open during the day and then at a certain time cut it off and start, you know, constructing the track and putting the safety barriers and the fencing and the lighting all. And you really have a rigid, you know, time to get it there. So it's a very interesting track. It, because it's using public roads all day, you know, the grip levels are obviously different because you got pedestrian cars driving on this thing all day. It's not like a traditional, like, you know, street circuit or even just a regular circuit that just has only racing cars going on that has that established grip. So there's a lot of elements that the teams kind of have to navigate through. And I think overall in the weekend, I said on the last pod, you know, Mercedes looked the fastest in the practices. You know, George Russell and Lewis Hamilton specifically had some of the fastest times in the first, you know, two or three practices going into qualifying. You know, they were looking at some of the favorites. Russell did get the poll, but Lewis Hamilton had, you know, some lockups on both of his laps and he had to start 10th, so wasn't mostly ideal spot for him. So I'm obviously wearing the Mercedes hat right now. So you guys know that where my, where my loyalties lie, pretty much primarily for Lewis Hamilton. He's my favorite. [01:03:09] Speaker B: You're jumping a Ferrari next year then, right? [01:03:11] Speaker C: I'm jumping to Ferrari. I've already said that. [01:03:13] Speaker B: There you go. [01:03:13] Speaker C: Ferrari with Lewis. So we'll go back to Mercedes after Lewis retires, but yeah, definitely jumping a Ferrari with Lewis next year. But the seven time world champion and I think he had, he had the tremendous, you know, run going from 10th all the way to second really, you know, surgically went through the field and really timed things out right. And he, and his expertise and his experience on how to manage those tires in these different conv. Different conditions. I don't think there was any chance he was going to catch George Russell, but when he got that last pit stop, he was going at it, I think every lap for man, it was like 10 to 12 straight laps. He was setting fastest lap times and so he was using up every bit of the grip on those tires to try to catch George wasn't going to come close because George pitted much later than everyone, got a pretty big lead and he was able to really manage the tires all the way to the end. So George Russell's biggest thing has been able to finish some of these Great pole positions. And so I think there was a fear out there at a certain point is like, is George going to mashup and crash? Is he going to like, you know, lock up and go past a barrier or something like that and have to turn around and lose all this time? But I think he ran a, a great race and this was a big win for him because George actually early, earlier this year got a win taken away. He was disqualified because the car wasn't at weight post race. [01:04:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:29] Speaker C: So that actually happened. So what? But we talked about, and I mentioned to you guys this F1 season being one of the best in history because of the number of different drivers that had won games or had won races. So first time in F1 history you had seven different drivers win multiple races. So which is generally unheard of in F1. You get pretty much dominance on whatever manufacturer and 1 and 2, but you have four teams and the four main teams with Red Bull, Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren have all had, you know, drivers in the mix. The odd man out of this is because is Sergio Perez of Red Bull has been really uncompetitive for, for the second seat in Red Bull. And Max Verstappen has basically been him versus the three other manufacturers with both drivers in the top seven throughout the season. So to end the race, I know Max Verstappen won the world championship, so his fourth in a row puts him in kind of rare elite class. He's now one of six drivers that have won at least four. Four world championships. So, yeah, I mean, Max really cementing himself as one of the best of all time. Especially this year where Red Bull did not have the fastest car for the majority of the year. They did early on, but pretty much the time around, two months into the season, really around Miami when Lando Norris won his first race. Red Bull's not been a great car and. But Max has really willed this thing to the front because of, you know, his, his aggression around the track. But he is just such a precise driver. He is. Knows how to work the car and really maximize lap times and, you know, make it very difficult to pass him in races. So he completely earned this championship in a car that was probably the third fastest in the field behind the Ferraris and the McLarens. [01:06:20] Speaker A: Interesting. Yeah, I'm just looking at again Russell Hamilton, Mercedes. Then you got the two Ferraris, science signs and, and leclerc. And then Verstappen and Norris. There's a big gap. I, I remember watching that big gap between Verstappen and Norris and the rest of the field. [01:06:40] Speaker B: Well, first step. And wasn't taking any chances because he basically had the championship wrapped up. So they didn't want him to crash or anything. He. He couldn't. Couldn't lose basically where he was at. [01:06:49] Speaker A: No. [01:06:50] Speaker C: Yeah. He just had to beat Norris. That was it. And clinching it. There's only two races left. And so it would. It was pretty much after the Brazil race. And I talked to you guys about this last week where Max really had the drive of his life in Brazil. Came from 17th all the way to 1st in the rain, bad conditions. And had one of the best drives you'll ever see. And that kind of sealed the championship. A lot of this was pretty semantics. Max would have had to crash out or not finish. And Lando almost maximize a lot of his points here in the last couple races. So it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that Max was going to win. And all he had to do was beat Lando in this race. You'd much rather clinch it in I think Las Vegas versus Qatar next week or Abu Dhabi the week afterwards. So I think Vegas is the place you want to clinch your championship at and be able to celebrate. So. But yeah that puts a cap. There's still something to. To drive for here at the end. And we're looking at the Constructors Championship. [01:07:41] Speaker A: I was gonna ask you that right now. Yeah. So what's the point of like the last two races? Because they. Do drivers typically clench the championship this early. [01:07:50] Speaker C: Max clinched it even earlier last year. He. He won it with like. I forgot it was like six or seven races to go because of how dominant like he was last year. So yeah, we'll be looking at the constructors which for the teams those are pretty much like the bigger things as a constructor. So the point totals for both. [01:08:08] Speaker B: You know there more money involved for the teams if they win that too. Those are the big prizes, right? [01:08:13] Speaker C: That's the big prize in the sport. So Aaron, you asked me about this a couple of weeks ago. So I did. I went and researched in it. It's not exactly but. But the approximate money for first in the constructors championships. $140 million. And so the difference in second it's all. It's about a $10 million difference. It's about do 130. So where these teams slot is from an investment into additional resources for the next year. It's very important. Kind of from the constructor stamping. So you're looking for McLaren and Ferrari. McLaren's got I think what do they got 16. They got like a 24 point lead right now. So it'll really go down to, you know, how Norris and Piastri versus leclaire and signs here in the last two races in Abu Dhabi. And the Versus happens. You know, he's still around. Mercedes is obviously pushing to prove something too. The Mercedes car has just been not great all year. It has. It had spits of greatness. It apparently is great in cold weather, which it was in Vegas. [01:09:08] Speaker B: In Vegas, man, it ran great in Vegas. And yeah, you mentioned that. I think Hamilton said, I don't know what it is about the cold, but this thing was just running great on the track. [01:09:17] Speaker C: So, yeah, that was something. They asked the Mercedes guys in practice, like, what's different? And they're like, we really don't know. Like, it's just, it just. So whether, you know, the flat services of Vegas in the desert, it's not as kind of up and hilly as some of the, you know, European courses are, but even the weather in Vegas and, you know, I was, I was at the British Grand Prix, which is the first race Lewis Hamilton won this year and it was kind of his first race in three years since 2021. And that was a cold day in, in Silverston in Britain, where I was at watching that race. So there could be something to that. Just the overall temperature. So you never know, like you're looking for tenths or thousandths of a second in some of these cars and these little conditions like that, yeah, could definitely come to play. [01:10:05] Speaker A: I had a question. I just totally left my train of thought. No, I'll probably catch the night. Next to us, you got Qatar and then Abu Dhabi. And then news broke out, you were talking about this last week that GM, Cadillac, we're going through the process of getting an F1 team. And so looks like that's been announced and moving forward. And I guess GM will be providing engines in a couple years. Shortly after that. [01:10:33] Speaker C: Yep, 2028, GM will make their engines, the first two. They'll be entering the Sport in 2026 as the Cadillac team. And they're going to use Ferrari for the first two years, which is common. Not every, not every constructor makes their own engine. So Mercedes, Ferrari, who am I forgetting? [01:10:53] Speaker A: Honda makes Red Bull. [01:10:55] Speaker C: Honda. Yeah, Honda does. So Ford actually is coming in to make the powertrain engines for red bull in 2026 as well. So that gives you kind of two manufacturers. Ford won't have its obvious own team, but they'll be in the support. Honda's switching to Aston Martin's. Aston Martin kind of uses Mercedes engines, so you'll have that entrance. So. Yeah, but so there's made constructors. And then I mentioned you guys, Audi's coming into the sport in 2026 as well, and they're doing their own engines as well. So you'll have a lot of different engine makers. Or right now you pretty much have Mercedes, which does four teams, Ferrari does three of the teams, and then Red Bull just does two of the teams, because Red Bull owns two teams of the sport. So you'll have much more diversity, I think, in the engine manufacturing. So 11th team on the grid. So now you'll have 11 teams, 22 drivers, which adds a little more to the mix. Now you got two extra drivers, you know, that are going to get jobs in formula one, which is pretty cool. It is. So, I mean, there's been a lot of calls to expand the field. I think the push against it is now a team's got to split the money in additional way. And so I think that was a lot of the push from it. There was Michael Andretti, I think I mentioned Formula IndyCar driver. He owns an Indy car team and part of Andretti Global. He actually. He was trying to push for this IndyCar team, I'm sorry, with this Formula One team, with the backing of Cadillac and General Motors for, like, years, got certain approvals through the FIA, but wouldn't get through to Formula 1. Now Michael Andretti resigned from being the head of Andretti Global and pretty much kind of fell out of this F1 bid. And now GMs just going in on its own. So I don't know if that's what F1 gets into. A lot of politics stuff. And I don't know if they just wanted the manufacturer by themselves and not additional people part of that. So it'll be interesting. But 2026 is going to be a huge year because you're going to get new cars and you're going to get these new manufacturers coming into the mix. [01:12:45] Speaker A: I love it. We're going to have to get you your own F1 pod for that. [01:12:50] Speaker C: I don't know if we got that much contact. You know, we throw it. You know, Aaron, we were talking a little bit earlier, Roman, I. You know, at least in the spring when there's no football, you know, we'll have formula one in March and April. You know, live with baseball season. So we'd be like the kickoff. [01:13:03] Speaker B: You have March Madness, F1, NBA playoffs, baseball. There you go, man. [01:13:09] Speaker A: Sounds like a lot of you have to start game planning. Yeah, well, it's good. It's good. By the way, I'm watching some college basketball right now, and North Carolina's about to get offset by Dayton. [01:13:21] Speaker B: Oh, the Maui Invitational. A lot of going on. Yukon got upset earlier today in the Maui Invitational. [01:13:26] Speaker A: Then UCLA girls over South Carolina. Yeah, over South Carolina. Thank God it's good. And then what else? Is that gonna be a wrap? [01:13:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe. [01:13:39] Speaker C: So you guys got Formula one in for me? This pod, you know, super excited. So, yeah, I don't know which one we could talk about at this point. [01:13:45] Speaker B: No, man, formula was a good weekend, man. It was a good weekend. Qualifying in the race. Yeah, I mean, I like 6:00am is a little rough, but I like, I like 10:00pm man, 10:00pm is like prime time. I'm relaxed dialed in right there. Recliners up. I go 10pm Every weekend. [01:14:04] Speaker A: Okay. [01:14:04] Speaker C: I think you, I think you'll get a little bit more sleep on the. I was checking the race times for, for Qatar and it says it's at 8am on that day. So, you know, a little more extra sleep for Qatar. It'll only be at 8am there on that Sunday morning. [01:14:19] Speaker B: So I'll be up. I'm up Sunday mornings, like at 7. [01:14:22] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, 8am is like the perfect time because you get 8am to probably 9, 30, 9, 45. Formula One right in the kickoff. [01:14:32] Speaker B: Man, I love. [01:14:32] Speaker C: I mean, what, what kind of car. [01:14:34] Speaker B: Can never go wrong, man. Never can go wrong in Qatar. [01:14:37] Speaker A: 8Am is not that bad, like when you're like a Seattle Liverpool fan. So I still have to wake up at six to hit up these bars and these guys are getting trashed already at 6 in the morning. I'm just like, what the is this? It's a wild scene. Who knows, maybe they start doing that for F1 here too. [01:14:56] Speaker B: We gotta start your own F1 bar there in San Francisco. Basically get one start one pitch your flag in, whatever you gotta do. Team Red Bull, Jason's Team Mercedes going Ferrari. Bam. There we go. I'm team Ferrari, so that'd be kind of cool, actually. [01:15:10] Speaker A: It's a good idea. [01:15:12] Speaker C: I don't know. Looking at, look at, look at, ahead to Abu Dhabi though, 5am for that 5am. [01:15:19] Speaker A: That'S. [01:15:20] Speaker B: I think it might pass on that one. [01:15:23] Speaker A: That's not much. [01:15:24] Speaker B: What's the date? What's the date on that one? [01:15:25] Speaker A: That's the Sunday after that. [01:15:26] Speaker C: That's Sunday, December 8th. Yeah. [01:15:29] Speaker A: I have a Christmas party on that. [01:15:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I got a Christmas. I got a Christmas party on the 7th too. [01:15:35] Speaker C: Hey, so you're just staying up to the Christmas party right into Formula One. [01:15:38] Speaker B: At 5am I'll be like, Lab 25, like dozing off like this. [01:15:42] Speaker A: The party that I'm going to in the seventh, there's a good chance I'll probably be up at five in the morning. These people go wild all night until the sun comes up. So who knows? I might be watching F1 at 5 in the morning, feeling like regretting all my life decisions at a Christmas party. [01:15:57] Speaker C: I mean, I'm telling you, I was. It was earlier this year. I was in Vegas with some buddies or whatever, out gambling all night and then right into the Belgian Grand Prix and Spa at 6am able to watch that, watch the race. Stepped right onto a flight, went back home. [01:16:12] Speaker A: Damn. Damn. That's epic. I love it. [01:16:17] Speaker B: That's committed to F1. I mean, that's just like the Dodger baseball game, Jason, right there. Boom. Cinco de mile F1 and baseball game all in one right there. Watching dog. Watching home runs and watching formula one. [01:16:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:33] Speaker C: What a, what a Sunday afternoon at the ballpark where that was. [01:16:35] Speaker B: You know, it doesn't get much better than that, man. [01:16:39] Speaker A: We have to come up with a nickname for you, Jason, about that. About that. [01:16:43] Speaker B: I think, I think we should have his wife come up for a nickname for him, you know, that's the key. She's. She's the number one listener of the show anyways. [01:16:52] Speaker C: She probably, she is definitely. [01:16:54] Speaker A: She probably is, actually. Yeah. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:56] Speaker A: Probably the only consistent one. [01:16:57] Speaker C: At least she got them long drives, man. She flips on the podium. [01:17:02] Speaker A: Yeah, well, they're the perfect, you know, hour and a half, two hours sometimes. [01:17:05] Speaker B: So she watched, she watched formula one with you too, or. [01:17:07] Speaker C: No, I mean, occasionally. Not the early morning races, right, But Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she caught a little bit of the Vegas one with me, but yeah, she was out there with me. We went to, we went to the British Grand Prix, so it was a great event she had, you know, we went two out of the three days, went to qualifying and all that stuff. So. Had a good time, man. It's. It's a great, like, live experience. So try to do it again. I play, I plan on U. S. Grand Prix next year in Austin. That's kind of my target for next year. [01:17:36] Speaker B: I'm thinking Vegas grand Prix next year. [01:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah. I had some friends post up some videos from the Grand Prix because they're like sommeliers. They had a good view of the track. I'm like, well, dude, how Come. You didn't invite me. You know, I would have totally went over, you know, serve some champagne. Another friend of mine, she's like a really popular Somali over there, too. They sold hundreds of thousands of dollars of champagne bottles that night. They're adjacent to another nightclub and a lot of people are partying. So I definitely want to be there next next year. [01:18:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I know. I've heard from people that I know in Vegas. It isn't the most profitable thing for all the casinos in Vegas, but, I mean, Formula One. Formula One is catering to, like, a higher branded audience. The sponsors they do is, you know, It's a top 1% of people who live in Monaco, you know, so, yeah, it's. It's a different clientele. It's, you know, type of thing. Vegas is what they're kind of catering to. [01:18:29] Speaker A: There's a lot of stuff there. [01:18:30] Speaker C: Oh, tons. [01:18:31] Speaker B: I mean, still on with the checkered flag there at the end. [01:18:35] Speaker C: Yep. Yeah. So it's a different type of audience. You get in. Into that where it's. It's. It's a premier type of audience that they want to be in Vegas and have that. So I think the best. The best, they'll say. I don't know if you guys saw this. I saw a ton on X. There was. There was CCTV video that was getting, like, basically put online of, like, the race, like down some street or whatever. That. That's a street normal. But it was like down the straightaway of one of the things in Vegas of, like, dudes just at work watching the CCTV of the race going on. [01:19:07] Speaker A: Real quick, I just learned that they're doing a F1 movie. It's like the biggest movie they ever done with Brad. And so they were filming because Brad Pitt fainted for, like, a scene. I guess he gets in a crash. And I guess Lewis Hamilton has been one of the consultants, one of the main consultants. He's really jacked up the production prices of that because he'll be listening to a track and be like, you're in the wrong gear on this turn. I could tell you're still in gear two. You gotta be gearing three or four. So they've been having, like, to redo all this, like, audio sound. But his attention to details, supposedly, it's gonna make this movie really, really sick. [01:19:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I think there's a realism they're going for in this movie. I don't know about. I don't know about the script. I'm excited for it, personally. They were. They were filming it in. In Britain when I was there. So they have the two. They have two cars for what? The Brad Pitt and his young. The young hotshot driver. He's like mentoring and stuff in there. They had those guys going around the track at certain port and being part of the field. Yeah. There was. There was a scene, it was all over Twitter of him. Of Brad Pitt collapsing like on the track and everything after an accident. That was galling. Over Twitter. There's even a Twitter. There's even a Twitter account for the fake team that's live that like is posting updates of like really, you know. Yeah, like Sunny. So. And so is Brad Pitt's character. Yeah. Sunny Hayes, after a crash in qualifying, is not clear to compete in the Las Vegas Grand Prix today. So, you know, they're. They're playing it up. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's like a perfect summer blockbuster movie. Yeah, you mentioned something. [01:20:36] Speaker A: So it's like actually giving out press releases that it's a real thing. [01:20:41] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [01:20:42] Speaker A: The fictional racing team APX gp, they're actually doing like PR press release like us. So they're all in. That's crazy. [01:20:50] Speaker C: Yeah, they're all in. There's. There's been rumors about the budget being over like 350 million or something for it. But when you. When you. I think the director. I. I think it's the director who did Top Gun Maverick, if I'm not got mistaken. Because that was like kind of what. Everyone was excited for it. But I think they came out and basically said all the rumors of the budget are kind of false because the, the opportunity in this type of movie is that, you know, you get sponsors galore because. Because racing, all we do is put sponsorship on everything. So you're gonna have every company under the sun probably doing sponsorship on this stuff that probably pays for product placement in a bunch of this. [01:21:28] Speaker A: So yeah, they're probably not gonna do anything for free or. Yeah, it's gotta be fun being an attorney for that movie because you have to go through all those whatever it is, litigation stuff to get approval for everything. That's cool though. Awesome. We'll try to do lines later in the week. We'll figure that out. Meantime, hope everyone's having a happy pre game Thanksgiving, I guess. Peace.