College Football Playoff New Year Preview, NFL Week 17 Recap, Rookie Quarterback Rankings, and Pop-Tarts

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome everybody. This is sources from the SOFA podcast. This is Rome. Quick little intro. It's New Year's Eve. Happy New Year's Eve. We record the podcast last night after a really fun Monday Night Football game. The weather's beautiful in San Francisco right now. I'm pretty sure it is nice on the west coast at least. Can't say anything about the east Coast. Got my daughter watch lots of games, lots of Christmas movies, all that good stuff on the pod. We do a quick Monday Night Football recap. Vikings, are they super bowl contenders? They look legit, man. And that team loves Darnold. A lot of good problems if you're a Vikings fan, especially with the, with the hell of a quarterback out of Michigan and McCarthy in the waiting. What they do, we're going to find out. But it's going to be fun. Unfortunately, there's going to be a 14 win team that's going to be the fifth seed in the playoffs. [00:00:51] Speaker B: That's ugly, man. [00:00:53] Speaker A: We gotta change that, in my opinion. But it is what it is. All out lions, Vikings, week 18 for it all. Number one seat as well as kings of the north, the NFC North. We talk all the other games. You know, Commander's looking really good. They're a dangerous team with 11 wins. Can Jada Daniels carry that team for an upset or two in the playoffs with his legs and through the air? He just has the Mojo, man. He just got it. Aaron's up on his Packers. Really up on his Packers. We talk a little bit more about that. Can't go a session without some Chicago Bear talk with Jason, of course. And then it's a long segment, it's about an hour long NFL talk. So you're, you're, you're going to love it. And then we have college football. We do a recap checking in with Jason at his time at the Holiday Bowl. We recap a few of the other bowls on the weekend, including the Pop Tarts. They're doing it right, baby. It's fun. It's a fun bowl game to watch. It's all the, all the theatrics around it. They're kind of reinventing what it means to be a bowl game. [00:01:57] Speaker B: I think it used to be like that. [00:01:58] Speaker A: We kind of gone away with that with like, you know, BCS and playoffs. [00:02:02] Speaker B: And everything getting screwed up, you know, mega TV contracts. [00:02:04] Speaker A: But we also don't go without talking a little smack on the sec. That's a segment dedicated from Jason and valid points, by the way. And then a full in depth preview of the Quarterfinals with the college football playoffs starting off with New Year's Eve and then the three games, New Year's Day. You don't want to miss some great bets, some sides to take. This is source from the sofa. Before we go, quick word for my daughter. [00:02:34] Speaker C: Go Dodgers. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Go Dodgers. [00:02:38] Speaker B: I love it. We'll be back. All right. Monday night, December 30th, the eve before the eve of New Year's Eve or something like that. Male is too many eves. The eve before the New Year's Eve. Is that it? [00:03:02] Speaker D: New Year's Eve eve squared or. [00:03:05] Speaker B: No, that'd be four, right? Whatever. [00:03:07] Speaker D: Yeah, that'd be four eves prior. It's New Year's Eve eve. [00:03:11] Speaker B: New Year's Eve eve. Hell of a Monday night game. Detroit Lions at the San Francisco 49ers at Levi's Stadium. I thought this game would be really dope in the beginning of the year. And then coming into this week, we thought this is not going to happen. Right? It's not going to be any good. Niners have basically mailed in the season, but this is a good game until what like the second half of the third quarter. Like that's when Detroit really took off with it. But it was a lot of fun. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was like a throwback 49er game. You know, they're trying to like, I don't know, end the season with some self respect, with some self dignity to go into next season before Brock Purdy gets paid, before other people get paid, maybe before half the team gets traded. All that good stuff. So Detroit dangerous. I wasn't a big fan of the initial. Go on. Fourth down. Was the, was it the second quarter? Was the first quarter. They were there like, like the 10, 15 yard line. Didn't get it. And then San Francisco drove it like the final minute and a half for a field goal. Much to my surprise, Detroit kicked other field goals throughout the game. 40:34 Wasn't that close in, in the final frame, but I loved it. [00:04:34] Speaker D: Yeah, it was a good performance for the Lions, even though it was an injury riddled Niners team. Did Purdy get hurt at the end of that game? Aaron? I got, I was getting some stuff. [00:04:46] Speaker B: I missed that either. [00:04:47] Speaker C: Yeah, he, he got sacked with a concussion. No. Went off to the sidelines and something with his wrist or hand, he like tried to throw the ball twice and then shook his head and just said I can't go. And yeah, I'll tell you, I knew. [00:05:04] Speaker D: This game was over. I mean we, Rome, we, we all picked The Lions, right. I'm trying to remember where we were at. Pretty sure we all picked the Lions, but this game was over. This morning saw trending on X at Dan Campbell's wife, Holly Campbell posted on her Instagram stories a picture of Sansa Stark from Game of Thrones with the quote, if we don't take back the north, we'll never be safe. I want you to help me, but I'll do it myself if I have to. God, you're gonna be quoting Game of Thrones by Dan Campbell's wife. It was over this morning. [00:05:39] Speaker B: Oh, man, I love it. So our picks. Aaron had it at a lock for a pounding. That was his exact words, lock for a pounding. [00:05:47] Speaker C: End of the year, lock of the year, man. Cash it, dude. Lions. [00:05:51] Speaker B: And it wasn't a pounding effort. It was pretty competitive. Niners were up, Lions weren't back. Man, they look still good even with like the abysmal defense. I wasn't sure if the Niners look good or if the defense is that bad on the Lions because they were completing a lot of passes. Kittle was just trucking over. Guys. [00:06:07] Speaker C: A little bit of both, man. A little bit of both. [00:06:10] Speaker B: Brody has some nice throws. Like, I'm not going to question Purdy at all. I like him as a quarterback. Overall, that gives Williams. They had great games and they're like solid on offense. As long as they can continue doing that, they're a tough out. But that defense though, it's. It's. I'm really curious how that's going to look in the. In the postseason being continually. [00:06:31] Speaker D: Just a lot of questions in the defense. I don't know if they've really talked about Internet. How many of the team guys on defense or the Lions are they going to get for the postseason right now? Right. Because Hutchinson Super Bowl, super bowl. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Only they get two guys I think back from. [00:06:47] Speaker C: They get the linebacker. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Some really good cornerback that was drafted this year. I think he just came back or he might be coming back for the last week of the season. He's supposed to be pretty solid. [00:07:00] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean they get a lot of injuries. They get one of their linebackers back. I believe I have to look up the name their middle linebacker. [00:07:07] Speaker B: The guys coming back have not played that much this year because they've been injured all year long. Be pretty green. [00:07:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:13] Speaker D: It'll just be more importantly looking at if talk of the injuries. But as you look into where the Lions have to play, it's probably even more important that they secure this one seed so they don't go to Philadelphia because they want the track meet right now. Offensively, you want the fastest surface possible. So I don't think you want to. To leave. I mean, if Minnesota were to take the one seed from them at some point or whatever, I don't even know if that's possible at this point. I forgot to check out what the possibilities are for. For the last week of the season. But if Minnesota can steal that from them and then they got to go through, you know, Philadelphia or something like that, or even if Philly had the one seed, you got to go through Philadelphia or some of these outdoor places. Like that's probably not what you want when, you know, hey, the key to the Lions getting to the super bowl right now is it's going to be a 40 point scoring game and they want the fastest track possible, especially whether they're going to be relying on Gibbs. I don't. Montgomery, have they talked about him coming back at all yet or is he. Is he done? [00:08:14] Speaker C: Yeah, Montgomery is a possibility. They said next week or he says he'll be good to go. They're still waiting further testing. My guess is you won't see him back next week, but it's a possibility he's back. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So my understanding is next week's 18th week 18 game now means a lot. It is. Love the dogs barking in the background. All good. [00:08:36] Speaker D: I'm not sure if. Yeah, I don't know if you like my take or not or apparently he's just, you know, not unhappy with it. [00:08:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:41] Speaker C: So it's when he's a Bears fan. So anything positive about lines in the north that's not Bears related. He's, he's, he's barking. [00:08:49] Speaker B: He's not taking it. [00:08:51] Speaker D: He's named after former Minnesota Viking defensive lineman Brock Lesnar, though. So I, you know, he might be a Vikings fan for. [00:08:59] Speaker B: Oh, man, you're so confused since I. [00:09:01] Speaker D: Named him Brock, so. [00:09:05] Speaker C: You never know. He might be a Raider fan too now. Best tight end number ever. [00:09:11] Speaker B: Yeah. So winner takes all, man. Next week, Lions, Vikings, the North and the number one seed. Is that right? [00:09:20] Speaker C: Yes. Well, if they tie, Lions win the division because they already beat Minnesota once. So that's the importance of this victory for the Lions. I know people were saying they weren't playing any for anything but a tie next week assures the Lions the number one seed and a win assures them the number one seed. [00:09:41] Speaker B: To put like the Lions offensive perspective, man, they have scored 533 points this year. That's 110 more than the Vikings. That is crazy. And it's still like 50 more than everywhere else, a little more than 100 than the Eagles commanders. Bucks have been pretty prolific on offense as well. They're up there. I think the Only other team above 500 points is the Bills at 509. He's been destroying teams, so. Yeah, you're right, Jason. They definitely need the number one seed to keep the field nice and, and warm for the track meet. [00:10:19] Speaker D: Yeah, Philadelphia probably the only place that's really going to be bad when you look at the NFC playoff picture, because you know you're gonna have Minnesota's indoor. You'll have the rams indoor at SoFi. Tampa could be warm. I guess it could be wet, you know, or I'll say warm. It's. It's Florida, so it could just be wet down there. But Philadelphia is probably the only one. So Detroit, I think you want the one seed. I think Minnesota's probably playing for the same thing, too. But it's, It's. It's weird in the NFC right now, man, because you got three teams with three losses or less at the top of the nfc, so you're going to have a discrepancy of the team that has to sit at the five seed out of this loser of the Vikings Lions matchup. Because now your road becomes so much for harder. And hey, you. You had a 14 and three season, okay? Now you got to go on the road for a bunch of games. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Eagles and the season this Sunday with the Giants. So that's a nice little gift to end of the year. Do you think they're gonna play everybody? [00:11:20] Speaker C: The Eagles? [00:11:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:23] Speaker C: No. [00:11:24] Speaker B: No, to me. [00:11:25] Speaker C: No. I mean, maybe half. I mean. Well, Jalen's not gonna play. I don't think hurts. Pickett's not gonna play. He's got, what, broken ribs already. And Saquon. I mean, we, we talked about this. I mean, Philly's got Green Bay, as of right now, coming into town. That's the, that's the wild card matchup. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:45] Speaker C: So you want Saquon being healthy because if the Eagles aren't on their game, the packers are going to eliminate them round one. [00:11:52] Speaker D: Does Saquon want the rushing record and do it against the Giants, though? [00:11:56] Speaker B: That'd be kind of sweet. Oh, no. [00:12:00] Speaker D: I mean, at the same time, I, I saw. I saw a thing on. On X about he could do the most diabolical thing either way because if he plays, he gets the rushing record on them. He does that. But if he doesn't play and he allows The Giants to win. The Giants. I don't know, what, do they get the 9th pick overall or something right now after. After having the first overall pick pretty much in the bag. [00:12:20] Speaker C: Yeah. They jumped up to, I think, fourth or fifth. [00:12:22] Speaker B: Who had that take? Someone said that on, on tv, they had like this, like, if I was the Eagles, I would just like not play anybody. Like, yeah, they win the game, but it just screws them over for another year in the draft. It was so crazy. Any other takes on this game? Detroit at San Francisco? [00:12:43] Speaker D: No. Think the Lines did what they had to do and 49ers are obviously looking forward to next season. And I don't know. A lot. A lot of talk about Moody from the kicking game for the Niners. So I think the Niners got a lot of changes, obviously with some of the aging players, but they're probably going to be out in the market for a new kicker potentially too. [00:13:02] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, Moody's second year guy, he just hasn't been the same since he hurt his ankle back in, what, week five. He was shot. His confidence was done, that's for sure. Missed a couple kicks. I'm surprised Shannon. Kyle Shannon threw him out there to kick a 58 yarder. I just sort of went for it on 4th and 10. [00:13:18] Speaker B: It was close too. Just pushed a little. [00:13:20] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean that, that extra point though, wasn't close though, that he missed from 35. I missed 33, whatever that was. Yeah. I mean, Niners and Lions both came in this game. 18 players each on each team on the IR. A record a lot, really. The difference for the 49ers is they have a combo of both on offense and defense. The Lions is just so defense, and then they've got their full offense intact and that's how they're winning games. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Majority. [00:13:47] Speaker C: But ironically, depending on if the Lions win, they could go to Sofi. Matt Stafford lines again in a wild card, this time at Stafford's house. At Sofi. [00:13:57] Speaker B: If they are. [00:13:59] Speaker C: Yeah. Are they going to Tampa and play Baker and those guys? So I think either team that loses between the Lions and Vikings is in trouble in that wild card on the road, whether it's at LA or Tampa, but we'll see. Man, this is going to be a big game to end the season. [00:14:16] Speaker B: I like the way the O line was playing today. Or like Jameer Gibbs, he looked really fast, has some nice rides. You know, usually he's taken like half the load, but he had the whole thing today. Really phenomenal. Williams showed up again. Amonte Brown had Like a nice catch. Had a couple nice catches today. Had a nice little touchdown dance and they looked really sharp, man, I, I, dude, 40 points. It's like this, this is like the Lions and like the Bengals. As long as they can keep guys on the, on the offensive side, on the field, and they're good to go. [00:14:49] Speaker C: But they're really very similar teams. They are no defense and offense. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Very similar. [00:14:55] Speaker C: Yeah, Detroit, that was their fifth time this year scoring 40 or more points. So that's wild. [00:15:02] Speaker B: All right, last, quick, let's review the rest of the weekend then. Pretty fun. Overall, there was a few games that really stuck out in my mind. The thriller with the Bengals, that was really great. They needed that big time. If they would have lost that, man, that would have been wild. Daniels securing that Rookie of the Year award. And I'm kind of prepared maybe to go down the line of like, let's rank the rookie quarterbacks for the, for this epic class. It's, it, it's a great class, but I like to rank all the rookie quarterbacks because Pennix, wow, solid, man. If he would have played like a few weeks earlier, they'd be locking the playoffs. We wouldn't even be talking about the Bucks. I'm pretty confident that, like, he looked really nice. He has looked really nice. So what other games kind of stick out? Let's just start with those two. Take your pick. [00:16:04] Speaker D: You gotta start on Saturday. Bengals, Broncos. You know, that was real highlight on Saturday, so I think you start with that one. Yeah, Joe, I mean, just Joe Burrow, man. I mean, when you look at this entire year, we talked about it a ton early in the season. A lot of those games that the Bengals lost, especially those home games early on, that seemed winnable games. Now you're down to the final week of weeks or they, they should already be in the playoffs. You know, this, this shouldn't even be a conversation. Them sitting at 8 and 8 right now and, you know, need some things to go their way to end to get into the playoffs. But you know, Burrow, 4,600 yards so far this season, 42 touchdown passes. We kind of crowned Josh Allen, I think from an MVP perspective early on, Lamar has obviously had, you know, 39 and 4 on. The TD interception ratio has been like. [00:16:59] Speaker B: Great, you know, great. [00:17:01] Speaker D: He's going to probably throw for 4,000. He's right on the cusp if he just, you know, completes a couple passes here this weekend. But BURROW, you know, 42 and 8 overall from the touchdown interception ratio, the 4,600 yards just. I mean, if they make the playoffs at this point, it's basically I did it myself type thing. I mean, obviously Jamar Chase played a huge role in that, but man, it's just been, it's been just game after game with him. And I know Rome, you're, you're. I don't know if you're his biggest fan, but you're definitely, you know, in the fan club and been driving the bus for a long time. But as all the question marks the Bengals had all season, I'm pretty sure you put Zach Taylor on the hot seat at some point in the middle of the season. He was the coach to go, but Burrow's not going to let this team fail. And that was, that was the performance there this Saturday, again, making sure, fine, I'm going to do it myself in overtime too. [00:17:52] Speaker B: Yeah, T. Higgins really came through too. I think he had three touchdowns. It. It felt like the Bengals were going to take over or like they, they were up and then I'm not sure what happened. I was switching in between games or. I don't know what the hell is happening on Saturday because it was just those two games. But the fourth quarter was wild. And then the fact that the Broncos even brought it back to go to ot, that was really exciting. Something interesting happened in OT though. I can't really recall the play by play. [00:18:19] Speaker C: A lot happened at ot, man. [00:18:21] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:21] Speaker C: I mean, you had a missed wide, a missed field goal, you know, an easy kick by Katie Org, and then they got the three, now got the ball back and literally at the three yard line and they didn't even line up to kick a field. Well, they just threw it to T. Higgins to get his third touchdown. Yeah, to give him the hat trick. But yeah, I mean, Jason said it best. I mean, the Bengals look like a playoff team. They're playing like a playoff team and yet they have to have the Broncos and Dolphins lose and then beat your Steelers Rome to even get into the playoffs. I know given the fact that they were at 4 and 8 one time, they've let so many games slip away that that season opening loss for the Patriots looks really, really bad right now considering what they are with Jacoby Brissette in that game at that time. Dallas gave him a gift on a Monday night like three weeks ago with that, you know, blocked punt, then muffing it on the return. Cincinnati's, you don't want to see him when they get in the playoffs. I mean, if you're the Chiefs and Andy Reid, you want the Broncos to win at all cost. I. I would rather see Bo Nix and Sean Payton than I would rather see Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and all those guys any day of the week. I'm not playing any of my guys or at least hard of Andy Reid. Say what you want. You want the Broncos or Dolphins in, you know you can handle them. If you're the Chiefs. You don't want anything to do with the Bengals, that's for sure. [00:19:45] Speaker B: 100. What was your takeaway? Bonex has some really clutch throws down the stretch. He's really good. He's really. Aaron, you called it. He was going to be a great fit with Sean Payin and got to give it up to you on that call. Can't really hate on it right now. [00:20:00] Speaker C: No, I mean he made. He made a couple great throws there. I think he hit like a 50, 60 yard pass during the fourth quarter to tie that game up. Then he hit another pass to Mims there in the corner to get him within one and then kick the extra point. Ironically, they were going to go for two and then the replay kind of called down and they took a two minute delay to review that to make sure to confirm it was a touchdown. Kind of took the momentum and the defense of the Bengals got a chance to regroup so they ended up kicking an extra point. I know we've touched on this subject a lot. Probably midway through the year, if you're on the road, a chance to win, do you go for two? Because if it goes to overtime you may not get the ball back. We saw that with Atlanta. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:37] Speaker C: Not go for two. When your season's on the line, you don't have much to lose. Denver has a little more, you know, a little more leeway because they can win one more game. Yeah, Atlanta how to win out. But yeah, I mean Bonexes look good. I. Outside of Jaden Daniels ranking the quarterbacks, he's been the number two rookie quarterback this year for sure. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Should we just go ahead and rank rookie quarterbacks or should we just kind of go through the games like in. [00:21:02] Speaker D: Order you want to rank the rookie quarterbacks? You keep talking about it room. [00:21:06] Speaker B: So just it's the end of the season. [00:21:08] Speaker D: I know what you're doing so go ahead. I know, I know. I know what you're doing. [00:21:12] Speaker B: You know, I. I feel a little insecurity coming through. You know, there's no ins. [00:21:16] Speaker D: There's no insecurity. I know what you're doing. [00:21:18] Speaker B: We all like your quarterback. All right. [00:21:20] Speaker D: That's all right. I'm Good. It's a great class. It's a great class. A lot of great class. [00:21:24] Speaker B: It's a. It's a dope class. [00:21:26] Speaker D: Dope class. [00:21:27] Speaker B: I'm not really too confident about the next year. [00:21:31] Speaker D: A lot of question marks in the next year. I think this is where you want, like, why these teams got this. But go ahead, Rome, like you, you're bringing it up. You brought it up two or three times at this point. Let's. [00:21:39] Speaker B: Let's hear the rankings I mentioned. I was gonna talk about it first. I want to talk about the previous Saturday game because that Chargers Pat's game with like the Christmas Day games in that game. I was thinking like, dude, like, why are we even having holiday games at all? Let's just take a week off. [00:21:54] Speaker D: I wanted. I wanted to say what Rome was talking about, the Broncos Bengals game. He's like, yeah, there's a lot of things that happened in overtime and I don't know what happened. And I was gonna say Rome, that's furthermore of how you did not want these Christmas Day games, because I feel like we played half of this week, like 10 days ago. [00:22:09] Speaker B: It was. Yeah, it was two games on Wednesday. You had a game on Thursday night. I was not a big fan of that. So that's three. Two more on Saturday, like after that. Chargers, Pats. [00:22:19] Speaker C: We had three games. Three games Saturday. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Three games Saturday. You're right. Cardinals, Rams. Yeah, it was just too much. It was just too much. Half them were bad. Yeah. [00:22:29] Speaker D: I mean, you get this time of year, though. I mean, just we're going off on the. Breaking the quarterbacks right now, but when you look at the standings, there's just a lot of bad teams right now. I mean, just overall, as good as the top is, when you got these 14 and two teams and. And everything like that, you got the bottom of the league. Where. I mean, as bad as my Bears are, man, they can't even be bad enough. They're still picking ninth in the draft and they haven't won a game since baseball season. [00:22:55] Speaker B: That's crazy. That's crazy. [00:22:58] Speaker C: They haven't won a game since they left. Was it London? Right? [00:23:02] Speaker D: Yep. Yep. You're right. [00:23:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:05] Speaker D: Haven't lost the game since I stopped haven't lost a game since I stopped going to Georgia. [00:23:11] Speaker B: Nah, that's true. [00:23:12] Speaker D: Or haven't won a game, I should say. [00:23:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Is it. Is it the Zinky curse or is it the Jaden Daniels curse? That Hail Mary that. I don't know. I'm trying to think. [00:23:23] Speaker D: I don't I don't think it's either of us. I think it's just the McCaskey family and the overall way they run the organization. But that's just. [00:23:30] Speaker B: I should have did it over under with you. Aaron. On when he was going to mention McCaskey family. Ah, yeah. I would have guessed under 20 minutes. [00:23:39] Speaker D: Yeah. You. You brought up the Bears. [00:23:41] Speaker B: I know. [00:23:43] Speaker C: Yeah, we brought up that and ranking the quarterback. So he's just kind of. He's just kind of light spicy today. [00:23:50] Speaker B: You guys are ready to go? Guys? All right. [00:23:53] Speaker D: I'm great. Well, Aaron had tons of energy. You know, he was what, 10 and three this weekend, picking games four, zero on X. So Aaron was coming with some fire into the pod today. I, I'm, you know, I wasn't as good on the. On the gambling side. I don't think we tallied my total rooms. But you know, it. It was. It's a good week. You know, we had some energy going. [00:24:10] Speaker B: It was a really good week. Yeah. I'm trying to look at the bottom of the league. Giants were terrible. [00:24:14] Speaker C: 3 and 13, but they won. They beat the Colts, eliminating them from the playoffs. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Dude, that was. That was a weird game. That, that, that shook me. I did not see that one coming. [00:24:26] Speaker C: They scored 45 points. 40. [00:24:27] Speaker B: 45 points. [00:24:28] Speaker C: 45 points. [00:24:30] Speaker B: Let's see. 45, 33. I had to do a double take. I couldn't believe it. I think it was like halftime. Like, wait a minute there. He scored this many points. No way. Flappy. Yeah. Drew up and down game, two touchdowns. [00:24:43] Speaker C: I'm not pinning that game on Joe. I mean, the defense gave him 45 points to the Giants. [00:24:49] Speaker B: Taylor killed. [00:24:50] Speaker C: How many points did the Giants have this whole year since you've been throwing out numbers of them. Lions scoring over 500 points. Have the giants even scored over 250? [00:24:58] Speaker D: They're at 260. [00:25:00] Speaker B: 265. 45. Yeah. They've been averaging around 18, so that's a. I guess you can say 20. [00:25:09] Speaker D: They aren't the worst point differential in the league, though. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Hold on. Let's. Let's. [00:25:15] Speaker C: They're not. [00:25:16] Speaker D: They're not. [00:25:19] Speaker B: 260 to 395. That's their point differential? [00:25:22] Speaker D: Yeah. 135. Them and the Patriots are minus 135. Care to guess the worst point differential in the league? [00:25:30] Speaker C: It's got to be the Jags or the Titans. [00:25:35] Speaker D: Negative. [00:25:36] Speaker C: Is it the Browns? [00:25:39] Speaker D: Nope. [00:25:40] Speaker B: Raiders? [00:25:42] Speaker D: Nope. [00:25:42] Speaker C: Panthers. [00:25:43] Speaker D: It's the Panthers. Minus 199. [00:25:48] Speaker C: Wouldn't think that over the last two months, how well the Panthers have actually played. [00:25:52] Speaker B: That's how bad they are. [00:25:53] Speaker D: We were praising them, but they've been really bad. [00:25:56] Speaker C: Actually, if you go back, they did lose, like week one, like 48:14. And they lost again, 48:14. So look at their records. [00:26:02] Speaker B: And me and Aaron, man, we've been talking a lot about the Panthers, how good they look, and they're still just 4 and 12. Like three of those wins have been in the last month. Oh, man, that is. Dude, that's bad. [00:26:16] Speaker C: Is there 10 teams at least in the league with four wins or less? Right up there, right? [00:26:20] Speaker B: We got Panthers, we got the Bears, we got the Giants. That's in the National League. So that's three. We have the jets and the Patriots. The AFC East, Raiders, Browns, Jaguars, tie inside. [00:26:37] Speaker C: So nine. [00:26:37] Speaker D: It's nine. [00:26:38] Speaker B: That's a lot. That's a third of the league. That just, like, stinks. [00:26:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:42] Speaker D: And apparently. And apparently some of the teams moved to the National League. I didn't know that this was an. This was an NL only. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You guys gonna bust my balls for that? [00:26:50] Speaker C: I'm not going to. I'm not. [00:26:53] Speaker B: It's. [00:26:53] Speaker C: It's a. It's the eve of the. Eve of the eve, so I'm gonna let it slide. [00:26:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Dude, I'm exhausted. I'm. I'm drinking some Mexican squirt soda. [00:27:02] Speaker C: I don't even know what that is. [00:27:04] Speaker D: That sounds like when you drink the water in Mexico. What happens? [00:27:09] Speaker B: Water. Back to the games. Yeah. So, like, that cold game was ugly. [00:27:16] Speaker D: You're gonna rank quarterbacks or what? [00:27:18] Speaker B: No, I wasn't ready. [00:27:20] Speaker C: You said you were ready. [00:27:22] Speaker B: And later on, like Rome. [00:27:24] Speaker C: I haven't. Jason, I haven't heard, like, Rome's top five, top eight in like two months. And now he's got a quarterback list. Rookie quarterback list. [00:27:32] Speaker B: No, it. It's. It's a great year. I actually don't know how to rank it because. [00:27:39] Speaker C: I think it's. [00:27:40] Speaker B: Oh, no. Jaden, number one. [00:27:42] Speaker C: It's pretty easy to rank. [00:27:43] Speaker B: All right, let's hear yours ranking. Aaron, you gotta go. [00:27:47] Speaker C: One, Jaden, two, Bo. Three, Caleb. Four, Drake, five, Pinnocks and six. Your boy McCarthy. He hasn't played. All right. [00:28:01] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:28:03] Speaker C: What's yours, man? I just gave you mine in like five seconds. [00:28:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:15] Speaker B: I'm have to put Drake May at third, and then Caleb and then Penix because he hasn't really played, but he looks really good. If he played a whole year, he might Be moving up a couple spots and then. Yeah, McCarthy's last. It's a good draft class though. Minnesota has a lot of good problems to have. [00:28:32] Speaker D: They do. I'm gonna go. You gotta give Jaden first, but Caleb's second. And then Bo, Drake, Pennix, J.J. so look at the stats for Bo versus Caleb. They're pretty much the same. So Bo's got 34, 54 passing. Caleb's right under him in the league, 33.93. Bo's got 25 to 10 touchdown interception ratio. Caleb's only 19 and 6. So they're basically identical statistically. And I'll give Caleb the edge because he's played with an inferior coach, inferior offense, inferior team the entire year and has done just as much as Bo has. [00:29:22] Speaker B: I would say Drake May has done more than both those guys with even worse of a coaching situation and a team surrounding him and he's looked phenomenal. [00:29:30] Speaker D: Well, he's through for a thousand less yards than both of them. [00:29:33] Speaker B: Well, he, he didn't come into like week seven. Right. [00:29:36] Speaker C: Week six, this was his temp start. 11. [00:29:41] Speaker D: He's got 12 games played. [00:29:43] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I think he got, he got knocked out one early of a concussion against the Jets. I mean, look, I think Drake May, it's, it's hard to say where these guys are going to be because if you so said long term, who would I want, Nicks or Caleb? It's hard to say because I don't know who the coach for the, for the Bears is going forward. I mean having, if you were to reverse situations and pick Caleb with the Broncos, I think Caleb's numbers would be significantly better than they are now and Nick's numbers would be significantly worse. But at the same time, I do think the Bears weapons are better than the weapons the Broncos have on the outside. Broncos got a better offensive line. You just, as Jason mentioned, coaching scheme wise, heads and shoulders above what the Bears got. And that's really the difference. [00:30:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:29] Speaker C: So I mean going forward it's, you know, who the coaches are, what that becomes, we'll see. But based off the numbers and what I've seen this year, Knicks has been the second best rookie quarterback. [00:30:40] Speaker D: We're splitting hairs, I think probably between the three for second, third and fourth. If you just, you know, as you're going through the stats because quarterback rating, they're basically all 88 and 89 all together. So that's pretty good. So when you just average it out like right now, Drake Maze in 88.3. Caleb's an 87.4. Bonix is 89.2. So they've all been good. [00:31:05] Speaker B: If Pennsylvania played a whole year, where do you think Panics would be? [00:31:09] Speaker D: He'd probably be right there with them. I think it'd be probably really tight. Maybe, maybe it would have gotten the edge. You could have looked at Pennix a little bit like Bo for how much he played in college. I mean no one played as much in college as Bo did. But you know, Pennix, you know, played at two different schools, had a lot of starts under his belt, maybe a little more pro ready versus what Jaden and Caleb probably would have said because they were coming out with maybe more raw talent versus Aaron said it I'm pretty sure at the beginning of the year. Just if you looked at pro ready out of this quarterback class, Bo Nix was probably seen as like, hey he's the one that can start for you on day one but maybe won't have the biggest upside but still be a really good pro. [00:31:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. I mean I'll take that. Sean Payton, I think said it best. He went to Nixon's pro day. These guys usually throw I think 50 to 60 passes. He saw a dozen and said that's my guy. So Pinnocks, Pinnix has all the arm talent. You saw why the Falcons drafted him at number eight and didn't let him slip to the Raiders or someone like that. That was really thinking they were going to get him. I mean give kudos to the Falcons for keeping that under wraps and not having any leaks. I mean you signed Cousins. Cousins team had no clue that was coming. Nobody had any clue that was coming. And now given how bad Cousins has looked that that pick may come back to be a savior for that organization. Who knows? [00:32:34] Speaker B: I think what happens, they jumped the ball on Cousins. They finally got the metal medical report. Someone said we might be in deep. Let's edge our bet, let's cover our ass. They got panics, they got ridiculed for it but they're gonna come out on top on it. [00:32:51] Speaker D: The biggest thing about that pick and if you're going hindsight and we're kind of all over the, all over the place in this episode, we are probably just, it was probably just where the value was in Pennix. When you're judging in the draft less about the pick because okay, Cousins wasn't going to be the quarterback beyond a couple years to begin with. You knew you were, it was, it was a short term, you gave him a lot of money but it, it more probably was on draft Day when you're analyzing the NFL draft it's like oh, you could have waited maybe a little bit longer than to get him but I don't know how much they would have gotten weighed him because what Bonix was what, 12 in that draft because the Broncos went up, you know. [00:33:27] Speaker C: Yeah, the Broncos got him and I think the Raiders were the 13th pick or 14th and they got Bauer. But the, the Raiders wanted a quarterback that was known widely around the league. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:33:37] Speaker D: So I mean the Falcons, I mean the most the Falcons could have done was like trade back a pick or two to maybe get some, some draft equity or something out of it. But you know, you can say what you want a lot of these draft picks and you know we'll probably do our own NFL draft and see where teams reach and stuff and we kind of got value. But in the day you just don't know what the team in front of you is going to do. And if, if you wait or trade back and, and lose out on something. Now you're doing this whole season and Cousins is terrible. Now you're going into the quarterback plastic. You just talked about where hey, there isn't really a sure thing coming out of this draft right now. Like lot of question marks for all these guys. I don't know if there's a consensus number one or even if you know a group of quarterbacks is going to be good up for the taking. Now in this draft you may have to overpay to get a guy that may not be as good as any of the four or five guys we're talking about right now. [00:34:25] Speaker C: Well yeah, I mean you get rookie quarterback contracts and now you're going to have to pay. If the Vikings decide to keep Sam Darnold. That's going to cost you minimum probably 35, 40 million. [00:34:38] Speaker B: What cousins got, he's definitely getting at least 40. [00:34:40] Speaker C: So I mean if we look at the Falcons, they already have weapons on the outside, they already have running backs, their O line is good, they got good players. Their defense, their defensive lines, their defense got solid players. They made some trades, they got you know, Judon from the Patriots of some other moves during the off season. So they sure that up, you know, maybe they could have went out and got like a pass rusher or something in the draft but I mean we said it best. Cousins was a two year rental and they're going to get rid of them after one and yeah, where are you going to be? I mean 7 and 7 and 10, 8, 9, 9 and 8 and then you're picking in the draft every year at 16, 18, you're not going to have a chance at a franchise quarterback unless you're like giving away two or three first round picks and future drafts. Just makes no sense. Pinnick was there. They saw the value in it. We'll see how it goes forward, but obviously we know Cousins is done. He's. He's going to be free agent. They're going to cut him before March where they have to give him a signing bonus for being on the roster. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Yeah, we could talk more about that in the offseason. Let's circle back on the games. Cardinals, Rams. That was a weird game. Cardinals dominated. All the stats show that they should. Should have came out with a win. Murray, another up and down, anemic game. Lots of yards, few interceptions. He always has. He's always good for like one or two of those. What the f. Throws. I think that's the first time I didn't cuss on this pod. [00:36:04] Speaker D: So maybe, maybe your daughter should be around a little more when we're recording. [00:36:08] Speaker C: I think because she's got her headphones off. He got a little scared there. [00:36:11] Speaker B: I know. [00:36:13] Speaker D: So it also. It also didn't bode well that he got Kyler Murray's name right. [00:36:17] Speaker B: It did not put well. No. So what do you guys think about that? That. That game? And then I want to, like, kind of skip through the rest of the weekend really quick. [00:36:25] Speaker D: It was a huge win for the Rams. And like you said it was. It was just so the Cardinals kind of had a lot of opportunities. The Rams have been kind of this team all year that been like, are. [00:36:36] Speaker B: They good or are they not good? Like, they're. Yeah, they're like a bad good team. Is that a thing? A bad, good team? [00:36:42] Speaker D: I don't know if they're bad good. I mean, they've had, you know, you had the injuries to cup early. Pukinaku has been in or out questions on the defense with, you know, kind of almost a rebuild mode on their defense. So they've been kind of patchwork and some of that stuff together. They're. And you look at a point differential, they have a negative point differential on the season right now, and they're a division leader at 10 and 6. So. Okay, cool. Is that. Is that we're good in good games or, you know, these are those things like, yeah, these are those things in the next season where like, oh, a team regresses and you're like, hey, we saw it in the numbers the last season. They won a couple one Score games one way or the other and it puts them in the lead. But for the Rams, I give them the better of the doubt because of their coaching. Sean McVay has proven like he gets more out of a lot of players, so it could be a starting point where this roster has been beginning to rebuild a little bit. But you know, this is a team that was losing early in the season, had a lot of injuries and we're, you know, there was trade talks of trading Cooper cup and you know, and different stuff at the middle of the season. And now they're in a prime spot. This isn't a team that I think is going to make a long run in the playoffs. I think there's a, there's a clear cream of the crop in the NFC and teams like the Rams and the Buccaneers and you know, maybe even like the packers and stuff like that, it's, it's pretty much probably a three team race in the NFC personally. And the rest of these teams are kind of just going to be there. It'll be some good first round playoffs and it's going to be over quickly for them. [00:38:07] Speaker C: I think it's matchups for the Rams. If they get Detroit, watch out because we know Detroit gives up a lot of points. And the Rams, if you got a shaky defense, they did drop staff for the same. They dropped 45 on Buffalo just here three weeks ago. [00:38:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:21] Speaker C: Ironically since that game and they blew up the Niners since that game, their offense has only scored two offensive touchdowns the last three games. Yet they've, yet they're 30 victories over the jets, the Cardinals here and the Niners. That 9, 6 game, that ugly Thursday night game here, like about three weeks back. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I was looking back like, because man, now they're 10 and 6. I'm like, how do we get here? Like they were division six a while ago and, and they've really pulled out. They got that Cardinals had it for them and they just really stumbled. They, they really fumbled the bag here. [00:38:56] Speaker C: Yeah. After that bye week, the, I mean, the Rams have just been rolling and you know, Jason mentioned it. Sean McVeigh, you got to believe in him. Rolling, roll. He got that team going. I think the key for the Rams is that young defense is playing really well. They got, you know, first year shoelace, their defensive coordinator. They got all those young D linemen, first and second year guys. Linebackers are explosive. Their corners are playing really good defense. The Rams defense has been the key to this turnaround. And then Stafford, he's been clutched there in Late games and then Kyler Murray, man. I mean, that pick in the end zone, that play. I don't know. I mean, throwing a bullet to McBride, like, four yards away, bonehead plays. [00:39:36] Speaker B: It's a Murray throw. It's a Murray throw. [00:39:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Just stuff he does sometimes, like, you're just shaking your head, and he just kind of has that. He has that dumb look on his face like. Like you're talking about Rome, where he's like, did that just happen? It's like, dude, like, yeah, dummy, you just did that. [00:39:50] Speaker B: He reminds me of a. If there was a poor man's. Jameis Winston, right? Similar throw, similar talent. [00:40:01] Speaker D: I don't know. I think Jameis gets up and down the field better, at least score some touchdowns, throws the bad interception. But I think there's a lot more upside with Jamis there. Kyler, I don't know. I mean, the other thing with Kyler, a lot of it was going on the. On X about him. He falls off when Call of Duty comes out in early November. [00:40:19] Speaker B: So the record has not been good since that happened. [00:40:21] Speaker D: So he's like, is he 1 in 5 since call of Duty came out early November? So it's. It's a funny narrative, but it's kind of true. [00:40:28] Speaker B: This year it's been accurate, though. [00:40:30] Speaker C: Like, I mean, I don't know if that game comes out kind of around that time almost every year, every other year. But you look at the Cardinals the last few years of the second half, their numbers are bad. Remember Cliff Ginsburg had those guys seven and one like, three years ago, and they fell off a cliff, and he had to go on the road in a wild card playoff game? [00:40:45] Speaker B: Cost them the job. [00:40:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:47] Speaker B: All right, let's go on to the Sunday games. Eagles put an end to the Cowboys season. It was a nice little run for McCarthy, and the guys get whatever they got. They. They were done. Happy to see Bucks close game in the first half. I was getting a little nervous, and all of a sudden, Baker and the boys, they turn it up and they blow it out in Florida. Now they control their own destiny since Atlanta lost today, thank God. I don't know if you guys have any comments on that, but other blowouts. The Bills putting the jets out of their misery. Rogers, did he bench himself? [00:41:24] Speaker D: Yes, he did. He's. I think they were down 33 to something or at some point and said, are we gonna put Tyrod in? Or something like that? [00:41:33] Speaker B: Yeah, his face, dude. Post game conference, he just looks like, what the hell am I doing here? Like, he just Woke up stoned. He doesn't even know how he end up in the jets uniform. Like, he looks perplexed, lost. [00:41:45] Speaker D: I'm pretty sure I said this before we started recording, but if I didn't, I apologize for repeating myself, but I said it was over when it was trending, that their team was walking out with the boombox playing Gangster's Paradise. [00:41:56] Speaker B: Dude, that picture's so badass though. Like seeing Josh in the background just like arms crossed. I just know he's not annihilate them. [00:42:05] Speaker D: Like, what is. What is. What is wrong with this team right now? Yeah, it was. I could have been Rogers's last game. Maybe. I don't know if he's playing last week or not. [00:42:15] Speaker C: I. [00:42:15] Speaker D: He'll. A lot of people are assuming, like he doesn't want it to end like this, but we'll talk about probably in the off season. What are the. What are the viable options that he's gonna. That needs a quarterback that wants to take a risk on him. If it's not the jets trying to. [00:42:28] Speaker B: Bring him back, they'll be a team, right? [00:42:31] Speaker C: We'll see. I mean, Rogers is going to play. He's. I mean, he's had 499 TD passes. They're at home against the Dolphins. He's got to get the 500. He will get the 500. So he's going to do everything in his power to get that number. [00:42:44] Speaker B: Guarantee. [00:42:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I guarantee. 500. [00:42:48] Speaker B: Guarantee. [00:42:49] Speaker C: Guarantee it. Prop Edit Rogers will have at least one plus TVs on Sunday against the Dolphins and the Jets. They can end the Dolphins season. I. I think I said it about three, four weeks ago. If you're looking for a team for Aaron Rodgers to end up, the Dolphins, they got no backup to 2. I know Hunley did okay this week, but he'd be perfect for what they've got. Quick game, short game. He looks more and more mobile and moves around a little bit better there in the warm weather. So I think the Dolphins as a team, if he does get cut, which I think we're all pretty much on the same page, the jets are going to. Woody's not going to keep him around. He may even just cut him. You know, the Black Mondays, they call for coaches. Rogers might get his pink slip the next day. Who knows? I wouldn't be surprised. [00:43:32] Speaker B: So I totally forgot that Brown's gonna. I guess that's a lot of the blowout. I did not see the Dolphins winning like that. It was not a good game. I'm going back on our Picks. That was like a bad pick by us. Aaron, you had Browns plus six and a half. Jason had Browns plus Exam Buddy was picking the Dolphins to still win. I had an upset win. [00:43:52] Speaker C: Yeah, the Browns DTR was terrible. Dude, that. That game was disgusting. [00:43:56] Speaker B: Got nothing going on. What happened? Like, oh, no. I thought detail looked kind of decent when he came in relief a few times the last year or two. And I don't know. [00:44:07] Speaker D: You got some UCLA blinders on, right, Matt? [00:44:09] Speaker B: It might be the case. It might be the case. I really want to do. Well, as bad as. [00:44:14] Speaker C: As bad as they were, man, it's a shame that Jameis wasn't in there. I mean, he may have given us three or four picks, but it would have been at least fun, exciting game because the on that one was bad. That was a bad, ugly game to watch. [00:44:25] Speaker B: I didn't catch that much of the game. I didn't catch much of the Jack Jags Titans game. Couldn't bring myself to it. I only watched the Giants when they were winning because I was like, what? How? Like the Colts, I don't know, kind of fumbled that. I don't. So Colts coach Steichen, is he on this hot seat? Is he out? [00:44:48] Speaker D: No, that's Aaron's guy, man. [00:44:50] Speaker C: Culture? Not even close, man. [00:44:52] Speaker B: The culture's not. Well, you got Pat McAfee talking crap on the whole team, how people are showing up late to practice. Colts and the Colts fans have been dogging Pat McAfee, calling them out. Their quarterback left the game early because he was tired. Just like a lot of a lack of accountability since Dyken has been there. [00:45:14] Speaker C: This is what, it's second year there. [00:45:17] Speaker B: Is this second or third? [00:45:18] Speaker C: Second, right? [00:45:19] Speaker B: It might be second, might be second. You might be right, my friend. That. That's his cousin, that, that Stichen. Yeah. [00:45:26] Speaker C: He's not going anywhere, man. I mean, I gotta get him on the pod. I believe Gus Bradley's or defensive coordinator, he's likely on his way out the door. Offensively, they've, you know, they've got nice pieces, they got weapons. I mean, is Anthony Richardson the guy? I don't know. I think Rome, we talked about this. I don't know. We talked about on the pod, that if Sam Darnold would be a great fit for that team, if the Vikings happen to let him walk, that works. He plays. He plays indoors. He's got a running game, a good old line. They got some nice weapons on the outside. They're going to still be drafting, you know, 14, 15, 16, and that division is not very good right now. Let's be realistic. So right now that division. [00:46:08] Speaker D: That division is never good. [00:46:11] Speaker C: That's pretty much is true. Yeah. So. But I'm a big stocking guy. [00:46:17] Speaker D: You're giving up on Rome's guy, Anthony Richardson, though he was trying to tell us about him early in the season. [00:46:22] Speaker B: I still like him. It's just. Oh, it's not good dude. But I miss it a lot. [00:46:27] Speaker C: The games he does win. I mean the last game he won looks great. He only had seven completed passes. He looked, I mean it was for like 111 yards. But he runs over people so it looks great. But then he can't play the next week because he's got a bad back. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Yeah, there should be a stat where like, like impact plays like that doesn't really show up. Like Jaden Daniels impact plays like that's what kind of sets them apart from the rest of the class. [00:46:49] Speaker C: I'm all great for impact plays until it affects your ability to be on the field the next week or you got to tap yourself out. [00:46:55] Speaker B: There should be like a, an opposite stat. [00:46:57] Speaker C: Right. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Because that's an impact place. But then there should be like a negative impact. Should not be an NFL player play. Yeah. [00:47:04] Speaker D: He's the 33rd ranked quarterback out of. [00:47:07] Speaker B: I knew he was looking up stats right now. I knew he was looking up stats. He was stare too much in the left hand corner like, oh, he's, he's got something. He's working. [00:47:15] Speaker D: I just wanted to put the stats out there. I mean unbelievable athlete was what we talked about. But you, when you, you're gonna do a project and that's. He was, he's a freak athlete where he was at. But Aaron's talking about the number of passes he's completed, passes attempted. Like these are always. There's always the criticisms. A lot of the running quarterbacks coming out of college is that all they want to do is run. There's nothing around the passing side. And then when they do run, it's different than college. These hits hurt a lot more. You guys can't, you know, you can't stay on the field. So Lamar Jackson, everyone was waiting to, you know, do that for him. But Lamar's smart. When he runs, he doesn't take the hit. He moves around. He's elusive, but he's also can pass the ball at this point. There's nothing that's really progressed Anthony Richardson through these first couple years on what that next step is going to be, especially when you're bringing in Flacco it's like, okay, this offense is going to work better that quarterback head coach, you know, pairing doesn't seem to work. I'd agree with Aaron. I don't. The Vikings, I'd assume keep Darnold, but Darnold's stock is going up and the price tag, the price of the bricks going up. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Into the locker room. They waited for him after he was done with his two interviews and they just mobbed him with water, put him on his shoulders like they love him. [00:48:32] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't think there's any way you let him walk. I think we talked about. It's just going to be the, it's going to be the length of the deal and then how long you're going to have JJ sit behind him. But man, you win, you win 14, 15 games, however much they finish the season and you're, you know, top three record of the NFC and over on the league like, you know, and where he's putting that, like I know there was some other. Other hosts out today just talking like why is he not in the MVP conversation? He's top three in the league and touchdowns and yards and, and different stuff. And he's not making dink and duck throws. He's really stretching the field now on the flip side, he's got two, you know, one he's got probably the best receiver in the league, if not the second best and then he's got a great number two in Jordan Addison I love. And then I don't know but where you put Hawkinson is the tight end but you got a top 10 tight end of the league at the minimum. So he's got the weapons around him to do stuff, but he's making the big throws and he's not turning the ball over at the same time. [00:49:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean Darnold is key for him is what is he going to do in the playoffs. He's never made a playoff appearance. He's never made a start. If they lose to the Lions, they're on the road. When, when one, two playoff road games. We're talking like Eli Manning stuff here where we're talking, hey, this guy was basically left for dead and now he's looking at a big contract. Vikings in a great situation. They could franchise tag Darnold. They could sign him to a long term deal, maybe do kind of a similar deal that the Falcons did with Cousins. You know, he sucks next year. You cut them our room. We were talking do you leverage and trade. JJ sign Sam Darnold long term and stack up a first or second pick to add additional pieces to this team. Vikings are in a great situation, but again, it's going to come down to what he does in the playoffs. Can he handle the pressure? Will he see Ghost again? Because we know he has before, unfortunately. [00:50:22] Speaker B: It's just that, like, whoever he faces could be a tough out. Right. If he's, if he's facing the Lions first round, no one's going to blame him for losing that game, right? It depends on who that first round matchup is going to be. But they're going to probably play Baker Mayfield. You think? [00:50:37] Speaker C: Well, if they win, they get the buy. [00:50:39] Speaker B: They get the buy. [00:50:40] Speaker C: They lose. They would be in position as of right now, considering the Rams. If the Rams win, which is no guarantee, then they would go to Tampa. [00:50:48] Speaker B: Bay, who did Ramsay last week. [00:50:52] Speaker C: They play Seattle on Sunday coming up. [00:50:54] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:50:55] Speaker C: Seattle's been officially eliminated. So. [00:50:58] Speaker B: So it's just all pride at this point. [00:51:01] Speaker C: And if they, right now, if them and Tampa finish with the same record, Tampa would get the 3C because Tampa has a better conference record than the Rams. So I believe that's how that works. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Wow. [00:51:13] Speaker C: That's. If Tampa obviously wins, which I assume they will against the Saints, that should be the lock of the week for any Moneyline play. [00:51:19] Speaker D: All right. With a Tampa Minnesota matchup will be wild, too. When you thought about, was it two years ago that you, Darnold and Baker were, you know, just thrown together quarterback room in Carolina, that Carolina, that teams, teams, teams gave up on them. Browns and jets, historically bad franchises give up. Panthers pick both of them up, do nothing with either of them. And now, you know, I think both of them, they were like, for 400 yards this weekend, Panthers got a good. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Deal on Baker because the Browns were just trying to like, oh, we need an adult in the, in the quarterback room. They just kind of treat him like on the way out, even though he brought in their own playoff appearances, they traded in, they kind of went all in on. On Donald, didn't they? They trade around like some first round picks in order to bring them down to Carolina, if I recall. [00:52:08] Speaker C: I want to say a third, but I don't remember. [00:52:11] Speaker B: No, I mean, that was your. [00:52:13] Speaker C: That was your boy Matt Rule at Nebraska, man. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, it was. [00:52:18] Speaker C: Well, I think. Well, yeah, I don't want to get it, but. Yeah, but Matt Rule, those guys, Carolina, man, the key for them is just be patient. [00:52:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Just patience. They got. They got some things going on. [00:52:27] Speaker C: You can't. You can't just start throwing people to the wolves after like 20 starts. I mean that, I mean let's put it this way. If Caleb was with the Panthers, they'd be trying to trade him this off season. That's just how that goes. [00:52:39] Speaker D: The Panthers gave the Jets a sixth round pick in 2021 and a second in fourth round pick in 2022. So a 2, 4 and 6. [00:52:48] Speaker B: That's okay. Real quick before we end the week. Vikings, Packers. That was a hell of a game. I don't know if that was game of the week. Maybe it was really fun. Vikings were up big, big time. Packers come back in the fourth quarter making a game that was really beautiful. I'm not sure we talked about the game itself. I know we talked about the Vikings a little bit. And then the circle back with the commanders and, and the Falcons with Penix and Daniels igniting the scoreboard in the final frames. What are your thoughts on those two teams, those four teams rather. [00:53:30] Speaker D: Yeah, I, I agree with you. The, that showdown with the, with the Vikings and Packers was there. I think the question to me, Aaron as a Packers fan, did Aaron pick the packers in that game or no, you went the other way. Vikings. [00:53:43] Speaker C: I went the Vikings, man. He did the Vikings. [00:53:46] Speaker B: We all had Vikings winning. [00:53:48] Speaker D: We did. But Aaron's been high on the Packers. The one Jordan Love continues. I think there's some questions, question marks around that and where he's been overall this season for this team. And these were one of those games where I think you wanted him to show up big and he got out dueled significantly by Darnold on the other side. [00:54:09] Speaker B: Oh, he got punked. [00:54:12] Speaker C: I'm gonna disagree. I think, I think Love and those guys got off to a bad start in the first half. But if Minnesota doesn't convert that last drive, packers are going to come back and win that game. And I like the packers to beat the Lions and Vikings both in the playoffs if they happen to meet in the playoffs. I, I like the Packers. If that matchup does come to tuition, I don't know. It looks like they're going to go to Philly. I still think they can beat Philadelphia given where they're at health wise. Yeah, Green Bay's been rolling but this was a good test, a good wake up call. They're still a very young team. I think they didn't have Watson in this game. They were going to get Jair Alexander back. Their best corner secondary guy. Packers are going to be a dangerous out, man. I mean they're going to be dangerous. They just get off to kind of some slow starts they're kind of one of those teams, if they jump out real quick, they can blow you out or they get off to slow starts. I'm not really worried about the Packers. This was a nice wake up call. A good loss for them. If they get by Philadelphia, which it looks like that's going to be the matchup. Unless Washington happens to slip up or the Bears happen to beat the Packers. Of all fixes the Bears could get this year. We'll see. [00:55:15] Speaker B: Yeah, packers are kind of misleading because they're always slow to the gate in the first half and then they come back, but it's always like a little too little too late. Jordan Love, like, he looked great in the, in the second half of the third quarter and fourth. [00:55:27] Speaker C: Well, let's not, let's not forget the packers have five losses this year. [00:55:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:32] Speaker C: Against the three best teams in the nfc. The Vikings twice, the Lions twice, and the Eagles. And they've lost all those games except one against the Lions by three points or less. I want to say, oh, dude, this. [00:55:46] Speaker B: Spread was 1 1/2 and we barely want it. Yeah, yeah. [00:55:50] Speaker D: I'm not gonna. I'm just saying overall, when you look at the three quarterbacks out of this NSC North, Jordan Love has been a step below the other two so far this year. I think as much as you, Aaron, and I think some other people in the packers, like, okay, we don't want to see the packers in the playoffs. They don't have the quarterback advantage and they're playing. So it is all going to be defense. And if you're going to go into these track meets against Detroit, you know, and kind of the way this Minnesota game went to. But I mean, even if they're playing some of these other teams, when it's, whether it's Baker or some of the others, I just don't know where the packers match up offensively. LaFleur is super creative. I give him that. This team's going to be competitive and like you said, they've only lost against the best team. So they show up against the bad teams, they do what they're supposed to, take care of business. But if you're telling me they're five losses against our three of the teams in the playoffs and they're going to be the dark horse here. Okay. They're going to have to do something they didn't do during the regular season. [00:56:47] Speaker C: Yeah. And I think, I think losing in the regular season. We talk about learning lessons from the regular season and taking that into the postseason and taking the next Step I think the packers are ready to do that. Whether or not that leads to victories, we'll see. I mean they're gonna, the toughest matchup ironically is going to be their first matchup against the Eagles. I think they match up great against the Lions where they're at. And the Vikings, they, they had them on the ropes. I mean they lost that first game but love and missed three weeks and they were down 28 nothing. So ironically down 17 points against the Vikings, come back lose by two and then they were down 28 at home back in week four and lost I think 31, 28, something like that. As Jason said, I mean they're not healthy. They didn't have their speedster Watson, so they really didn't get any big plays. He'll be back. Jair Alexander, their best cornerback will be back. Packers are a team. They're just a team you don't want to play. They're kind of like to me like Tampa Bay, like we were high on Tampa, then they lost to the Cowboys and we're kind of like eh, these are a couple teams you don't want to play. They're trending to me upwards. I, I'd rather play the Rams or somebody like that than I, even the Lions because their defense is just so banged up. I, I want to avoid Green Bay at all cost. [00:58:03] Speaker B: All right, last game unless you guys want to talk about any, any other one. Circling back to the Falcons Commanders Commanders 11 and 5 and they have these close games. They kind of had like a little bit of lull for like a four week stretch. Started hot, had that lull. Now I feel like they're kind their groove again going to the playoffs 11 and 5. I know they're not like blowing anybody out but they just feel like they have to me they feel like it feels like they have like that, that it factor to them that they can possibly pull off an upset or two in the playoffs with the right matchups. And Jaden Daniels like he's already had like a handful of signature moments that like quarterbacks like, you know, NFL players wish they had in like their first five seasons. It's all in year one. It's like a little too much in year one. Am I just overblowing a proportion or like is this like a real threat? I think they, they can fuck it up in the playoffs. [00:58:58] Speaker D: There's definitely a dangerous aspect to playing them because of what's the X factor that Jaden Daniels is going to play down the stretch spent several games where they were down and out. And they've made their way back. At the same time with this team, though, they're a step below, like I said, the Eagles, the Vikings, the Lions, most definitely, probably even the Packers. I'll probably put that up there, too. There's definitely a vibe to this team. It's a team that's reinjuvenated a city probably in Washington, D.C. that really hasn't had, you know, the consistent winner that they've been looking for under the Daniel Snyder era, like they were spending in free agency. They bring in a coach, they had a little, you know, little run with Joe Gibbs, but it was nothing like, you know, crazy consistent. And then it's been kind of just a mess up and down and they've been the bottom of the NFC east for a long time, probably since we were last doing the radio show 20 years ago, so. But I think when it comes to the playoffs, though, Rome, yeah, I wouldn't put it past anything can happen in the playoffs. It's a one game sample size. Jaden Daniels takes over a game and it's a big upset. At the same time, I'd expect more that this team, when they go up against some really tough opponents in the playoffs and not, you know, favorable environments and stuff, that they're going to get just beat by better teams right now. [01:00:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, Washington, their weakness is their defense. I mean, their run defense isn't very good. I mean, Atlanta, Bijan Robinson just tortured him and that's on the ground. [01:00:36] Speaker B: He had a great game. [01:00:37] Speaker C: Even, you know, Jason's. Kyle Pitts got in on some of the action, dude. So he did. [01:00:42] Speaker B: I don't want to. Touchdown catch. [01:00:44] Speaker D: Yeah, you know what, you want to know? [01:00:46] Speaker B: What? [01:00:46] Speaker D: You want to know what happened? Yeah. The one, the one league, I don't know. Kyle Pitts in the other team owned him in the championship game. [01:00:53] Speaker C: Did you beat you and he beat you? Huh? [01:00:55] Speaker D: And he beat me and he beat me. [01:00:57] Speaker B: Oh, man, it's bittersweet. It's all coming full circle for you. [01:01:00] Speaker D: Kyle Pitts taking me on a stretcher in the one league. I don't take this guy. I love it in the last week. [01:01:07] Speaker C: That's brutal, man. [01:01:08] Speaker B: I love brutal. That's a good storyline, dude. That's great. [01:01:13] Speaker C: That is brutal. But yeah, I mean, Washington, I mean, what I like about Washington, what I like about Jaden Daniels is he's got that. He's already got that will and that look in his eye like, I'm not going to let this team lose. [01:01:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:28] Speaker C: And you don't See that from rookie quarterbacks. [01:01:29] Speaker B: You got swag. Yeah, got it. [01:01:32] Speaker C: And so I think the key of you playing them, especially in overtime, in the fourth quarters, you just can't. You can't let Jaden Daniels run. You can't let him get outside you. If you can keep them in the pocket, you're going to give these guys trouble. But as soon as he gets a step or gets outside or gets a crease, I mean, he's taking off and running. I mean, how many yards did he have in that fourth quarter in overtime? He rushed for over 100 yards, I want to say, against Atlanta. Yeah, Atlanta defense was playing good. [01:01:55] Speaker B: They're playing pretty solid games. [01:01:56] Speaker C: Really good. And then Jaden Daniels just said, I'm just going to take it up to another gear. And Atlanta had no answer. Yeah. [01:02:01] Speaker B: So as far as that game, it was great. You mentioned he had over 100 yards. He led the team 16 carries, 127. [01:02:08] Speaker C: He got the most rushing yards ever of a rookie quarterback on the rookie season. [01:02:11] Speaker B: That's crazy. [01:02:12] Speaker C: He passed RG3 of all people in ex Washington commander guy. [01:02:17] Speaker B: Hey, knock on wood for everybody, guys. We don't want to see that. Yeah, typically when you have quarterbacks that run this much, they're prone to get injured. But he. Look, you know what, he's so thin. I saw him get. Get big guys. [01:02:29] Speaker C: Did you see him get bent back where his leg got stuck? I was like, oh, I missed that. [01:02:33] Speaker B: No, I did see him, though, when he kind of kept the option. He was going. He was pretty close to the goal line. Tried like, juking off, like, three defenders, but they're huge. Man. He took those hits pretty well. But he was. He's so thin. I was afraid for him. [01:02:45] Speaker C: Yeah, so, I mean, that's. That's the key. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Was he a puck 80? [01:02:49] Speaker C: I think he's probably about 25 to 2 10. He looks skinny, but he's. He's tall. I mean, as of right now, well, they got to beat Dallas. They got to beat the Cowboys to lock up the six spot. Because if they lose and the packers beat Jason's Bears, then they're going to Philadelphia. They got much better. They got a bet. They got a much better matchup with the Rams, another young team. That would be a good game. That's a game I think they can win. If they have to go to Philadelphia. I. I'd give him small chance of winning that game. [01:03:18] Speaker B: That's fair. You guys want to go into, like, looking at the playoff prospects. Any other games in week 17 should we just hold off to like the last week and then we'll kind of go in a deep, deeper dive on matchups. [01:03:29] Speaker D: Yeah, I say hold off till Thursday. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Because it's all speculative right now. So we're just jerking each other off. [01:03:35] Speaker D: I don't know. I don't know about that far. [01:03:37] Speaker C: But it's not, it's not, it's not on the eve of the eve yet, bro. I'm not ready for that yet. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. [01:03:44] Speaker C: Hit me up tomorrow night. Hit me up tomorrow night on that one. [01:03:48] Speaker B: You're wild. I can't say anything. [01:03:50] Speaker D: I. I don't know what's going up in San Francisco right now. Geez. On New Year's Eve Eve. [01:03:57] Speaker C: But yeah, I agree. Jason, let's save that for Thursday and let's get in this College Football Playoff, man. [01:04:01] Speaker D: College Football Playoff. Let's talk about the big games of the week. All right. [01:04:04] Speaker B: All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back. [01:04:08] Speaker D: Foreign. [01:04:13] Speaker B: It's that time to talk college football playoffs. Second round, the quarterfinals. We got one New Year's Eve, two on New Year's Day. But before that, kind of want to ask Jason, how was the Holiday Bowl? [01:04:28] Speaker D: Holiday bowl is great. Every year. New venue had been a Petco park the past four years or so since Qualcomm. The old stomping grounds had been demolished when the Chargers left, but was replaced by Snapdragon Stadium, which Lee. San Diego State plays there. Aaron, you correct me. I think they do and then I do. [01:04:47] Speaker C: They do play there. Yeah. [01:04:48] Speaker D: I think the. The NWSL Women's Soccer League team plays there. But nice stadium. Smaller obviously than Qualcomm, I think, you know, only in like the 30,000 seat or whatever capacity. Not the big football stadium that has a 60,000, but a little bit of a, you know, different matchup. I think we talked about going in the history of the Holiday bowl generally had a little more prestige when you go to the back when I first started going, because you'd get like the Pac12 runner up or Pac10 runner up that didn't make the Rose bowl would definitely go to the Holiday bowl. And then you'd get like a two or three ranked team out of the Big 12 or the Big 10. So you should see some really good teams and some teams that are generally more. A little more local. Washington State, While was a PAC 10 team not the easiest flight probably from eastern Washington down to San Diego and then Syracuse coming all the way from upstate New York to come over to San Diego, probably the farthest Possible fight. You can make it to San Diego. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:46] Speaker D: So it wasn't as. It wasn't as probably the collegiate atmosphere wasn't there like it probably had been in the past when I first started going to this game 18 years ago, which has kind of been a yearly tradition with some friends of mine that we go down there every year. But still great to see some college football in a different bit of an atmosphere. Hit the over as Aaron correctly predicted. But one of my couple losses this week was I did think Syracuse was gonna get that. Minus 18. They were up 24. There's a 20. They're up 24. And then we got a backdoor cover there right at the end by Washington State and they're able to cover there only losing by 17 right at the, the very end. [01:06:23] Speaker C: So. [01:06:24] Speaker B: But I'm pretty sure that made Stanford Steve's bad bets of the week or something like that. Does he have a segment? [01:06:31] Speaker D: He's got bad beats with svp. So yeah, I don't know if it made bad beats. Definitely was for me. I was, I was, I was a few alcoholic beverages in at that point after the five hour tailgate prior to the game and I was, I was talking a lot of mess to, to, to. I think I sent it to you guys. A little screenshot of the stadium and if some friends of mine and my cousins as well. And I was like, yeah, minus 18 lock of the day. Oh well, it was, it was not so much. [01:06:56] Speaker C: You pulled the old roll, man. [01:06:58] Speaker D: You pulled the old Rome. [01:07:00] Speaker B: It's really bad. [01:07:01] Speaker C: You shot your wad before it was all over and boom, down there it goes. [01:07:04] Speaker D: Yep. [01:07:05] Speaker B: What a phrase. [01:07:06] Speaker D: Yep. So definitely talked a little too early on that. I will, I will blame the, the gentleman, the G. I'll blame it on the Gentleman Jack and the other, the other adult beverages that were consumed during the table. [01:07:20] Speaker B: What are your adult beverages of choice? Actually, I don't think we know this yet. [01:07:25] Speaker D: I'll do a diverse take of alcohol. But the we. I've settled into Gentleman Jack and Dr. Pepper for the, for the, you know, for the Holiday bowl pregame. But you know, mostly, mostly a vodka, you know, guy do a little vodka soda or some different mixtures with the vodka. [01:07:42] Speaker B: Nice. I respect that. [01:07:45] Speaker D: But you know, Dr. Pepper I think is the official sponsor of college football. So you go to a college football game on a tailgate, you know, you gotta have some Dr. Pepper and mix it with the Gentleman Jack. [01:07:54] Speaker B: There's Sailor Jerry's rum. I don't drink a lot of rum. [01:07:59] Speaker C: That's Pretty good stuff. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Sailor Jerry's and Dr. Pepper. I can finish a whole 7:15 in two hours. It's just. It's just a fun time. It's a good time. You guys are on to that? Sailor's and Dr. Pepper love it. I mean, I haven't had it in a few years. [01:08:13] Speaker D: Sounds like a great Friday night and a bad Saturday morning. [01:08:16] Speaker B: Last time I had that combo, though, it was at my daughter's baby shower and I ended up passed out on falling over. My daughter's baby shower gifts. And that's the pink blanket that she still sleeps with today. It's the one that Daddy just like, knocked out on. Glad you had a good time at the Holiday Bowl. Any other recaps from any other bowl games from this past weekend? [01:08:46] Speaker C: Your Nebraska team won. [01:08:48] Speaker B: Rome Nebraska won. That was a fun game. [01:08:50] Speaker C: I mean, they hadn't won a bowl game since, like the ice age, so. [01:08:53] Speaker B: Boston College. I don't know if it was a great game, but it was watchable for sure. Iowa State. I called that victory. Thank you. [01:09:03] Speaker C: Hey, who sent that? Who sent that? Was it mayonnaise, Pop Tart or whatever the hell that thing was? [01:09:08] Speaker D: No, Batman. [01:09:12] Speaker C: Is that like a real thing going around or what? [01:09:14] Speaker D: No, no, I. I think when you look at two bowl games right now, Dukes, Mayo and Pop Tarts are the corporate sponsors that are doing it right. If you're not going to be the College Football Playoff, you don't, you know, you don't get the Rose bowl and the Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Cotton bowl and the prestigious stuff. And you're talking about these teams that are, you know, what, what are they playing for? A lot of questions when you go to these bowl games and I go to the. Like I said, go to the Holiday bowl, you know, no stakes, except these kids got to get to play some football, which is great. But when you're sponsoring a bowl game and you make it your own Pop Tarts, man, they take this thing to the next level. They had the mascots that were ripping off foil. They had dance trophy we talked about. They had dancers, those Pop Tarts that were dressed up or like, you know, put, you know, doing stuff to the referees. They had the resurrection of the strawberry Pop Tart that got toasted. Last year's Holiday bowl that, that resurrected was at like, at the top of the stadium. And then they, then they toasted another Pop Tart this year. I think it was the cinnamon one or something. And it comes out to a big Pop Tart. So, man, it's. It's trending all over Twitter. I think, you know, it makes itself a prestigious bowl to probably go to. And I think Duke's mayo, the other one you brought up, too, they were. They were the one a couple years ago when Mike Golick Jr. Was like, eating Duke's mayo with like, some Oreos or something, live on TV and doing some creative stuff. So if you're going to sponsor a bowl game, man, make it fun, make it entertaining. And, you know, the. The Iowa State was great. Call by Rome Miami. I think Cam Ward walked out, like, at halftime or something like that and said, okay, I'm done with this. So they weren't playing for much. And I think that's the. The negative of cop these bowl games is that you get that's not a good look. It's. It's not a good look. But at the same time, what is he playing for? The stakes are low, but you don't get. Yeah, I mean, to me, the top dopers are prestigious. Boy should be playing for. But. But it was a good game nonetheless at 42, 41. [01:11:05] Speaker B: And. [01:11:05] Speaker D: But I. I think that's the show that. That these corporate sponsors, hey, at least they're making it fun. And, hey, we talked. We talked about the pop Tarts in last week's podcast. Man may go out and buy some pop Tarts, man, at this. It was. But dipping it in mayo, though, that was. That was. It was a little much, but I think it was great. Some great corporate synergy supporting each other. Between Duke's mayo and pop stars, Duke's. [01:11:26] Speaker B: Mayo is the only thing. Only me I could find this closest to, like, European mayo, which is really great for dipping your French fries. It's delicious. Kind of like a sweet texture to it. Real quick before we move on. Also, Colorado got rocked at byu. They brought everyone. [01:11:44] Speaker C: A lot of people are quiet on that one, man. [01:11:45] Speaker B: Oh, they were really. [01:11:47] Speaker C: Everyone wants to kiss Colorado's ass, but once they get their ass beat. [01:11:50] Speaker B: Oh, dude, they got showing the door. Sanders looked at it like, like a shell of themselves. And I think someone on Twitter posted something where ever since Shador has rocked the New York Giants hat or, like, posted something Giants related on. On X. He has not been good and he even rocks some New York Giants sneakers. [01:12:12] Speaker C: Ironically. Ironically, the Giants don't want him either because they played their best game of the year. [01:12:16] Speaker D: They did. [01:12:17] Speaker B: They did. [01:12:20] Speaker D: Yeah. It wasn't a good look. I think Dion and Aaron, who's the head coach of byu, I can't remember off the top of my head, but. [01:12:28] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't think of his name off the top of my head, but. [01:12:30] Speaker D: Yeah, they had some good stuff, I think pre game as far as, you know what this game means and you know, as far as you know, you get to play another game of football and stuff. But then, you know, Colorado came out and it was really just nothing in BYU dominating Colorado while it was hype at the beginning of the season. And then they kind of went away, but then went a little bit of a run and then just faded here late. [01:12:55] Speaker B: All right, before we get to the playoffs, Alabama playing my second or third college football team. Who's keeping track these days? [01:13:04] Speaker D: Before you go to that SEC team, I wanna, I wanna talk about Navy beating Oklahoma in the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl. So, you know, we're, we're talking about the SEC deserving to be in the playoff, but they don't beat Navy, who many people have written off all year. And then USC beating darling Texas A and M of the SEC in the Las Vegas bowl same day. [01:13:34] Speaker C: Arguably, arguably Texas is biggest win of the year. [01:13:38] Speaker D: Yes, very, very true. [01:13:40] Speaker B: You guys, I don't want to pile. [01:13:43] Speaker C: On, but we are on the eve of the eve, so I might as well. So last time I get some shots in this year. [01:13:48] Speaker D: So while Vanderbilt did beat Georgia Tech, Arkansas beat Texas Tech and Oklahoma wasn't. [01:13:54] Speaker B: That good this year. [01:13:56] Speaker D: They weren't good, but they beat. Oh, they beat Alabama, who's everyone's talking about, oh, should have been in. And it wasn't like it was Alabama's only loss. Yeah, but that was the one you highlighted. Missouri beat Iowa today too as well, so. But I mean, the vaunted SEC as we could continue to make that a little bit of a talking point. I'm not trying to put them down by any means, but you keep telling me it means more in the south and all these teams are so much better. But when you get to the these bowl games, hey, SEC is not blowing anyone out. They're losing the game. Or Missouri's beating Iowa by three. [01:14:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm glad we have Danny Cannell on the show today, guys. I mean, Jason Zinky. Wait, do you not like him? [01:14:40] Speaker D: No, Danny Canal's fine. [01:14:41] Speaker B: Okay. All right. Yeah. [01:14:44] Speaker D: No, no. Anyone else? Fine. I think he's valid points in the sec. Like, hey, yeah, really good conference. It, it means more. Hey, their fans travel well. Great stadium. You know, I got, I was telling somebody about going to the Holiday bowl and they're like out there, that SEC team, they would, they would have sold the place out and yeah, they might have, so. [01:15:00] Speaker B: Might have. Yeah. [01:15:01] Speaker D: You know, I'm sorry the ACC with Syracuse and Washington don't travel as well. But you know what I was like, you know, they still got to play the game. But traveling well doesn't win you football games all the time. And when you keep trying to put these other conferences down of like, oh, we play all these, you know, this hard schedule. But then majority of the sec like specifically Alabama, you play three cupcakes out of conference every year and then you rely on what your SEC schedule is and just everyone talking about how hard the schedule is. So yeah, do. Do better in the bowl games. Prove me. Prove us wrong. [01:15:30] Speaker B: Do better. Jason's right. Do better guys. All right, real quick. Alabama ranked number 11 against my top ranked Michigan Wolverines based on my top ranked rankings. [01:15:44] Speaker C: Fan favorite. Top ranked ranked teams. [01:15:45] Speaker B: Fan favorite. Man. Yeah. What's the spread on this one, Aaron? [01:15:49] Speaker C: It was 15 points. [01:15:51] Speaker B: 15 points. I'm taking Michigan to cover it. Lock of the week. Lock of the week. Wait, how much of our defense is actually playing? I didn't really do much, too much research on this game. [01:16:02] Speaker C: I mean it's a ball game so who knows who's going to be playing for these ones. The line's been going up. It was initially I think 14. It's 15, 15 and a half. So the smart money's wise guy money is coming in on Alabama right now. [01:16:15] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe not luck of the week. Maybe just maybe just watch it and just support Michigan. [01:16:22] Speaker C: Yeah, there you go. [01:16:24] Speaker B: Lock that for the week. That'll be a fun game. That's on at 9am start New Year's Eve off. Really nice. Are you guys like a like the kind of like the drink on New Year's Eve? Right, right from the get go. Are you kind of slowly get into or you guys don't really celebrate too much? [01:16:44] Speaker D: I would say is toned down over the years. Definitely not drinking as it get goes. It'd probably be just a late surgeon up to midnight. [01:16:51] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. [01:16:52] Speaker C: Agree, agree. [01:16:53] Speaker B: I've slowed down a lot this past year. This is it. Like oh man, I'm starting to feel it. I'm not 26 anymore. Just the girls I date. It's rough. [01:17:06] Speaker D: Maybe if you just go to one or two less like Christmas parties over the weekends, you know, the entire month of December would be easier to recover, you know. [01:17:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not going to any parties. I, I'm having my own party here at my house. My daughter, we got kids, sparkling champagne for her. Non alcoholic. It's Apple cider. [01:17:21] Speaker D: So champagne, New Year's Eve with the daughter. Are you. Are we watching broadcast Ryan Seacrest for the Countdown or is there like, is there a kids movie that we got to put on for the. For the New Year's Eve? [01:17:35] Speaker B: What's the procedure? I'll probably put on like the. I'll do The New York one at 9:00. [01:17:41] Speaker D: Nice. [01:17:41] Speaker B: Try to. Try to get her. Nice and tired. But knowing her, like those Hispanic genes are going to kick in and she's the one to stay up till midnight. It's going to suck. [01:17:49] Speaker D: I think that's the key though is you. You can get older, man. You. Then you celebrate the New York at 9:00 and then call it a day. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, let's get into it. Playoffs quarterfinals. Let's start off with the VRBO Bowl. Verbo. I've actually rented properties or like. Like book cabins in. In Lake Tahoe through that, but I don't know how to pronounce that. Anyways, the VRBO Fiesta bowl tomorrow night afternoon. Penn State against Boise State. Penn State's favored by 11 and a half. [01:18:27] Speaker C: 11 points. [01:18:28] Speaker B: 11 points. [01:18:31] Speaker D: It just doesn't have the same ring to it. When Tostito sponsored it, I loved it. [01:18:35] Speaker C: I loved it, man. I loved it. [01:18:36] Speaker D: The Tostitos Fiesta bowl just made so much more sense. Sense. Yeah. [01:18:39] Speaker B: I don't like when they change it, man. It's not fun. You know, people still call Oracle Pack Bell Park. Pack Bell hasn't existed in a decade at least. All right. But anyways, Penn State, I think we talked about like last week or the week before. This is the best Penn State has looked ever, like competitively, up and down. They've had some tough classes, but I really like them. Boise State, do they deserve the third seed? I don't think so. I think they should kind of redo that thing. But here they are. They got the buy. They got Genchi who got. You know, some people think he got ripped off on the Heisman. What do you guys think? Are we. We all kind of went for the other guy, so. Yeah. Thoughts? [01:19:30] Speaker D: Yeah. Well, out of the few right things I've got from the beginning of the season, when we look at my predictions, Boise State being. Being the playoff team, where is. Where I rode however, and. And Genti at the same time too. Really, you know, he was. He was doing a ton and probably at any other year, probably wins the Heisman, you know, one of the top rushing performance collegiately ever. But I think this is where Boise State's kind of Cinderella story comes to an end in a big way. Their biggest highlight of their resume is their one loss to Oregon in Eugene early in the season. [01:20:06] Speaker B: It is their highlight. Huh? Is that it? It's like. Is that like the biggest non victory? [01:20:11] Speaker D: I mean they're Only non victory 12 and 1 but they're I the if they would have got blown out versus Oregon they're probably not. They're in the playoff but they're not getting the first round by likely. So what gave what the resume builder was them is like hey, they went up against the number one team in the country and then we're playing in a one possession game with them late and really had for the most part special team says Oregon in that game. I do think these teams have changed since then. They've evolved. Oregon, Oregon obviously has played a tougher schedule. Boise State has not had the toughest schedule. And now as much as I'll vouch for them being in the playoff getting the buy a little bit of a gift under the rules. You know I think they should get the buy but I think those rules are going to change. But Penn State, yes to agree with you. Rome one of the best Penn State's teams that is they have had really proved themselves in the first round of the playoff. I think it's a pretty easy cover at 11 or even I see on ESPN bet 11 and a half for Penn State and they roll Boise State tomorrow. [01:21:20] Speaker B: So I see that the over under is at 53 and a half. That's kind of interesting because I know Boise State has trouble stopping players and I don't think they've ever tempted on the over. [01:21:35] Speaker C: Yeah, an interesting match up here. I mean Boise State they haven't. I mean obviously the Mountain West Conference isn't great. Their toughest opponent is unlv. They beat them twice, once at UNLV and then obviously in the championship game there at Boise Idaho and had Oregon on the ropes early in the year. Oregon two special team scores. This game I think is gonna be a lot closer than people think. I'm actually riding with Boise plus 11 Penn State to come out and win this one. Boise's talented. More talented than people think. Their defense does worry me if they can hold up against the run game of Penn State. But I think JT can get some big runs. I think their quarterback for Boise in the passing game is a bit underrated. I think they're going to shock Penn State a little bit with that. Unlike SMU that was shell shocked on a road game. This is a Neutral site. Fiesta ball there in Arizona and Boise State. Historically, Fiesta bowl has been great for them. They've beat, they've upset at Oklahoma when Oklahoma was a dynamite team there with Sam Bradford and those guys. TCU back with Andy Dalton. Boise covers here makes it a close game. All right, but I got Penn State advancing. [01:22:55] Speaker B: Yeah, no, fair enough. I hope it's a close game, but yeah, I don't know. Penn State just looked really good last game. Hard to go against that. Let's start from the top of the morning till night on New Year's Day, 10am so if you drank a little too much, you should be okay by 10. Or if you party like me, you'll be okay by the time the third game comes around at 5:00 in the afternoon. At night. Texas versus Arizona State. Texas favored by Aaron, you sent this to me and I keep on looking on the screen. 13, 12 and a half. 12 and a half over under 51. That's really intriguing. Over, under. Actually. [01:23:45] Speaker D: Interesting. Over, under Rome. You haven't listened to Aaron I the entire year about Texas. Even when we, we told you last week that they were going to cover in their first round matchup. I think Texas will advance, but Arizona State's going to cover this game and keep it closer than people think. So I'll take Arizona State. You're plus 12 and a half. [01:24:12] Speaker C: Agree. I like Arizona State to cover 12 and a half. I like over 51. This can be a good game. Arizona State relishing the underdog role, right? Hey, we don't belong here. The Big 12 sucks. Texas coming in, you know, with the easy route. If you look at it, you know, basically getting the home game against Clemson and then now Arizona State. Arizona State's talented. Their defense does worry me, but they're actually got a really good red zone defense. And it just so happens that Texas sucks in the red zone. Texas wins. Arizona State covers. Agree with Jason. I got, I got 30, 26. Texas winning. I like the over 51 too. [01:24:53] Speaker B: I do like the over. I, I was rooting for Arizona State. Watched a few of the games down the stretch. They are really solid. Only have one loss with their starting quarterback, I believe. Is that correct? [01:25:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:25:06] Speaker B: And just really good team Texas. They're my preseason pick to win it all. I think my pick to win it all again when we double down after the end of the season. I'm just kind of shaky now because of viewers. But I do think Arizona covers. I think it'll be more like 34, 27 type game. Nice Comfortable win. But not. Not a blowout shootout and something to have fun with. The Peach Bowl. Chick Fil A. You know what? I think Chick Fil a is overrated, by the way. Not a big fan. The sandwiches, they all kind of suck. They're nuggets, though. I can eat a good 50 to 100. I only know that because someone brought them to the super bowl party. And that's what I did. I ate the whole platter by myself. It was pretty impressive. I couldn't walk afterwards. What? [01:25:59] Speaker D: A guest just comes over and eats the entire tray of chicken nuggets meant. [01:26:03] Speaker C: For the party and then takes the party out to this trunk with the little bar. Open bar. I mean, what kind of. What kind of guess is that? [01:26:15] Speaker B: That was a nice tie I did. I'll give you that. [01:26:18] Speaker D: Roman at all time party guess. You know. [01:26:23] Speaker C: Bad. [01:26:23] Speaker B: All right, next game. Ohio State, Oregon. Ohio state favored by two. This has gone down a little bit. Over under 55 and a half. Are these all pretty high? Yeah, except for the Notre Dame Georgia game. To me, this kind of looks like that this might be the championship game here. That's. That's what it feels like. [01:26:49] Speaker D: I agree with you. I was talking to an Oregon alumni this afternoon that was going to be headed to the Rose bowl to watch this game. And that was the exact words I said to him were, this is Oregon's toughest test to win the national title that Phil Knight is paying handsomely for to get Oregon every advantage to be able to win the national title. Part of me wants to say Ohio State found something in the last game that was sorely missing versus Their. Their Michigan loss. But Oregon has done everything right all season. And I will take Oregon plus. What do we got? Plus two right now. [01:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:36] Speaker D: I think it is. I think it is their year. [01:27:39] Speaker B: There. You're organs. [01:27:42] Speaker C: Interesting. Interesting. As much as I love Oregon. [01:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:46] Speaker C: And I want Oregon to win this game. [01:27:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:49] Speaker C: I'm taking Ohio State. Whoa. I think it's impossible. I don't think it's impossible, but it's going to be very difficult for Oregon to run the table and do a perfect 16 0. And Ohio State. Say what you want. Probably should have won that game up in Eugene early in the year. That was a Week 7 matchup. I went back, I looked at all her notes. Oregon, Ohio State was favored by three in that game. Ohio State, the Michigan loss. We kind of questioned where they were at. Were they going to be able to bounce back. They sucked it up. They whipped Tennessee. And I think this team has A newfound confidence. And even though they're favored, I think they feel like the underdog and they're going to take it to Oregon. They're going to beat them. I don't think it's going to be as close as people think. I think Ohio State is going to win by seven or more. I like the Buckeyes to advance to the semifinal. [01:28:44] Speaker B: That is wild. I was listening to another podcast. I think it was Joe Clatt. I think I talked to you about this, Aaron, earlier, how this is the first time we're actually asking for college football teams to actually play force possibly four straight games, like, really well in order to win an addie. Especially when this year when like all the top teams, they have not had more than two consecutive good games. This is gonna be pretty tough. Oregon has had some close calls and along by. I'm gonna lean more towards, like the NFL experience here where teams don't look good after a long buy, they kind of lose their mojo and Oregon's gonna come out flat. I am leaning on an upset as well for Ohio State. I'm rooting for Oregon, but I think the lane here is Ohio State. They're just more primed, more ready. They're ready to go. And not sure what's gonna happen with Ryan Day, but if they win this, he's definitely staying. [01:29:44] Speaker D: It's hard to disagree with you guys. There's a reason out of all the games, this is, you know, one of the ones with the tight spread. I guess Notre Dame, Georgia is too. But this was the rematch we thought would probably been the Big Ten title game that we got probably a trilogy out of these teams this year, potentially that we didn't get to see. The buy is very interesting. I think there's a valid argument to what Rome said, which is, hey, you had the bye week. You come out flat. Oregon hasn't played a game since, I don't know, three weeks, right? Yeah, three weeks. [01:30:19] Speaker C: Seventh, December 7th. [01:30:21] Speaker D: So almost a month at this point that they haven't played a game. So there is some rustiness there. On the flip side, while Ohio State did win, you know, the buys in the National Football League are also better because you're getting guys healthy and there's an element of rest that didn't have to, you know, take those hits in the first round game. So a lot will be said. Winning the four games, I think makes it so much more difficult for Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame and Penn State that it really gives the competitive advantage. I think in the long run, if one of These teams does win that had to play the first week. Getting to the fourth game is probably going to be so much more difficult that they're going to have something there. I don't think it plays a big as big a deal this week for Ohio State, Oregon, but I think we'll probably learn something. A bunch is because about the first round buys, they're already talking about receding and if it is as much a competitive advantage with the first round buys, if we see Oregon be able to run away, Georgia able to beat down, maybe even Arizona State, shocking people and understanding the value of that, there could be some real conversation about what the value is there. This one I think is tough though. It wasn't. It was more than a full week that Ohio State got to rest. So it wasn't just a one week. So they did get some additional time. So it probably won't come as much play. I agree with you guys. I think my heart is rooting for Oregon because they've been just such a perennial power in college football and just haven't been able to get over the hump to win the national title. I think it's probably the best story that you can get from college football right now that people are probably rooting for. [01:31:59] Speaker B: They definitely been the most consistent team this year. No one has been close to their consistency. [01:32:04] Speaker C: They're the only undefeated team, right? So I mean, typically we look at national champion last year, MI 15, and oh, we always look at that o and we think, you know, hey, you know what? That proves to be a national champion. [01:32:16] Speaker B: They've done it under the radar too. We've been talking about everybody else except for Oregon, I feel like all year round and they've. And they gone undefeated under the radar. It's kind of weird for that to happen, especially at a big program like that. [01:32:30] Speaker C: Well, I don't know. They've flown under the radar. I mean, Jason has pointed out Boise State, Boise State had them on the ropes. Let's be real. Boise State should have won that game. I mean, you get two special team scores. When do you ever see that in a college game or pro game? Regardless, Oregon figured things out from there. They've been defensively, they've been really stout. I mean, Oregon, like Jason said, for the last 20 years has been the premier school out west and they just haven't won it. You know, Chip Kelly got him there and Cam Newton ripped their heart out. I think it was. I can't remember the running back. Dyer like landed on a defender, then ran another 50 yards and they got a touchdown and won that. And then they got blown out. They, they blew out Florida State and then they got beat by Urban Meyer in Ohio State when he went on to win this first collegiate title there with Ohio State. So it's a big game. It's the Rose ball. I expect the crowd to probably be about 50, 50, maybe 60, 41 way or the other. So not a real crowd advantage. [01:33:31] Speaker B: Most definitely. [01:33:32] Speaker C: Ohio State's going to travel well. Oregon's going to travel well. I do like if Oregon gets through this game, I do think they're going to get to the championship. But can they beat Ohio State? Team that talent wise is probably the most talented team in the country. Again, it will come down to Will Howard. It's going to come down to the quarterbacks. I mean, again, Dylan Gabriel, he's been great. Will Howard's had some great games. Do Ryan Day and Chip Kelly believe in him? That would be the difference, I think in this game. If Ohio State is able to play how I think they can, their defense is a little bit better. They got a little, few more playmakers. Ultimately, I like Ohio State to pull this one out. [01:34:16] Speaker D: And the coaching matchup I think is very interesting in this game too. For you. Look at like Dan Lanning's got a different swagger with this team. You brought up that Oregon team that played Ohio State. I remember watching like pre game interviews for that game with Mark Helfrich and Urban Meyer and just the interviews alone, there was a difference in the, the command of the program. I think you felt going in like there was something different that Ohio State was going to bring to the table in that particular game. Dan Lanning, man, there's, there's a, there's a confidence there of what he has with his team and the swagger that they bring and Ryan Day we talk about every week, definitely got the horses, definitely brought in the talent. But there is so much question marks around him at all time that isn't surrounding Dan Lanning. Where, hey, they're gonna play three in this game and they're gonna play their game. Where, where does, where does Ryan Day have his team? Are we playing tight the entire game and is that like is a difference in the game because it could swing very easily one way or the other. [01:35:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I like the swag. I like everything Dan Lanning brings. My concern is will he get over aggressive and do something, do something stupid like instead of punting, run a fake punt or go for it on fourth and like three back at his own 45, Ryan Day, he just seemed like the, the, like the monkey got off his back with that win against Tennessee. He was over there winking at players, winking at cameras. I've never seen Ryan Day ever smile in my entire life. Yeah, and literally like had a grin from chin to chin like the Grinch when he beat Tennessee. I think, like I said, I think Ohio State's found a newfound confidence. They know talent wise, they're better than Oregon. They want Oregon. They're not afraid of Oregon. This is actually the game they want. I think it's gonna be a hell of a battle. Like you mentioned Rome, this could be the best game and it's going to be a quarterfinal, playoff game for the college playoff, and maybe neither one of these teams gets to the final or wins at all. But this may be the best game and best matchup of it all. [01:36:16] Speaker B: Valid points in the coaching though. I think Ohio State, the coaches really beat themselves. They second guess play calling. They get away from their assets of like what, what makes them a strong team. Oregon, they could be over aggressive. So what comes out on top, that's, that's a funny. [01:36:32] Speaker C: And we didn't even really mention much, but does Chip Kelly break Oregon's heart again? [01:36:42] Speaker B: All right, last game in the all State Sugar Bowl. Jason's Notre Dame against Georgia. Georgia's favorite by one point. I'm just not seeing it with Georgia. I got Notre Dame. It's not gonna even be close. Notre Dame by two touchdowns. [01:37:00] Speaker D: Wow. Wow. [01:37:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:37:04] Speaker D: Man, I, I wish I was that confident. I agree with you. Notre Dame's gonna win. I think it will be close. What Notre Dame's able to do in the running game, I've said it all season, is, is something special with, with, with Jeremiah Love and the game breaking that he has when they figured out how to use Riley Leonard, we've talked about that in several weeks. Jadarian Price, they bring in and he gets his carries as well. So he consistently go there. The timeliness of the passes I saw a highlight this week is because the, the Northern Illinois loss, that's the only thing any anyone knows about Notre Dame. The passes that Riley Leonard made in that game that were terrible, you know, terrible interceptions was the thing they haven't done. And so that's the only risk offensively in this game is Notre Dame is if they can't find their way against a generally great presence up front in the Georgia defensive line. Do they have to start taking some risks in the past game that cost them the game versus Northern Illinois that they haven't had to do versus many of these other teams because the run's been able to be successful and set up, you know, some great play action. Offensively for Georgia, they haven't looked great even with Carson back. Now you're playing with the backup who. I think he had one good pass in that game where he came in relief. Everyone's like, oh, he did. I think Rome said he did great. [01:38:29] Speaker B: He did really, dude, he did good. [01:38:31] Speaker D: I mean, tough situation. [01:38:33] Speaker C: I mean, he won the game. [01:38:34] Speaker D: He won the game. You give him that. He won the game. Now you're going to play four quarters. The Notre Dame defense is special. They have, you know, all American safety with Xavier Watts, Jack Kaiser at linebacker, you know, just all over the place ball hawking. They're missing, we talked about it last week. They're missing their best defensive lineman. So that becomes into a big issue with their them up front. I still think Notre Dame pulls it out. It'll be a three score game, but the Irish are going to be advancing. [01:39:01] Speaker C: I mean I, I've been going back and forth on this game all week. Once the matchup was official, I mean Georgia, just like Jason said that that stout defensive line. Can Notre Dame establish the run game and if they can't, will they force Riley Leonard into throwing it? And will he make the mistakes that, you know, he's been prone to throughout his career? He's been a lot better. The past game's been doing better. That's all valid, but that's my real question. And then on the flip side, Jason just said their best D lineman is out. And we know George of a freshman quarterback is going to do what they're going to pound the rock, they're going to run it. And that's always been Notre Dame's weaknesses. Can they hold up against the run game? This Notre Dame teams built different than those in the past. I believe they can. Al Golden's got to be the key here. A lot of pressures, a lot of zones, a lot of mix up and coverage confused the young quarterback. Texas kind of just came out and played standard man to man. And this guy was able to run and do all that running stuff and hit a few big one on one passes. Play zone, make them read coverage, send blitzes, send extra bodies. You saw what happened late against Texas. They almost threw that game away in the end. In a close one. I don't trust the young quarterback. Give me the Irish. Notre Dame advances to the semifinal in a close one. [01:40:23] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah, you know, do the Bulldogs, you know, manhandle the little Irishman, you know, take them behind the shed, give him a good pounding. Or to the Irishman, you know, Michael Vick, the Bulldogs. Chain them up, put them away for good. We'll find out. Jason's face. [01:40:45] Speaker D: I had no idea where you're going with that, man. [01:40:48] Speaker C: Hey, hey, Mike. Mick did get a head coaching job in college, by the way. [01:40:52] Speaker B: Congratulations, dude. He was supposed to get a job here in Sacramento State. I was like, ah, man, I'm gonna apply to that. I'm apply to be an assistant or something. It's close by. [01:41:01] Speaker C: Yeah, you can't have Mike Vic in California, man. Not with that track record. [01:41:05] Speaker B: Yeah, they don't have any pit bulls here. That's not true. That analogy to your Chase's face, I'm not sure I was going with that either, man. I'm pretty tired. I'm not gonna lie. [01:41:19] Speaker C: As soon as he said, take the Irishman behind the wood and give him a good pounding, I was like, I was already out. I was already out, dog. I was done. I was like, hit the pause, bro. Hey, Rome. How's your comedy show go, by the way? I didn't get a video on that. [01:41:36] Speaker D: Did you do that already? [01:41:38] Speaker B: No. [01:41:39] Speaker C: How do you not remember it? [01:41:40] Speaker B: No, I didn't get a chance to do it. I'm gonna try again next. Next week. Oh, no, I have to wait till after the daughter goes back, so. [01:41:45] Speaker C: Okay. [01:41:46] Speaker D: So were these bits you were trying out today on the pot? I don't know. You're using. [01:41:54] Speaker C: Between the jerk off session and Take the Irishman behind the Shed, I haven't heard enough for the rest of this year for sure. I'm gonna regroup. [01:42:04] Speaker B: Well, this is the last pot of. [01:42:06] Speaker C: The year, so might as well get it out. [01:42:08] Speaker B: Any recap for the year? [01:42:13] Speaker D: I. I don't think so. We've only been doing this since August or September, so I don't. I don't know if we have enough for yearly recap of the pod. [01:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. Any accomplishments for you guys personally from the past year or what to look for next year? What you guys working on? [01:42:31] Speaker D: Listen, we started. [01:42:33] Speaker B: We started. I know. Yeah. [01:42:36] Speaker D: I mean, I. I don't think anything bigger than the podcast for us, you know, coming out of retirement. Coming out of retirement after. Do we establish how many years it was since we last recorded the radio show? [01:42:46] Speaker B: It was almost 20 years. [01:42:47] Speaker D: I mean, yeah, it was. [01:42:48] Speaker C: It was up 20 years. [01:42:49] Speaker B: We'll say like eight. [01:42:51] Speaker D: So, yeah, 18, 19. 20 years. [01:42:53] Speaker B: I mean, what year is it right now? 24. [01:42:56] Speaker D: It's 24. [01:42:57] Speaker C: It's gonna be 25 here in about 25 and a half hours. [01:43:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:04] Speaker D: He was a 506, you're right. I was gonna go with that. So 19, 20 years, whatever was one. I think that was a huge thing for us getting the pot up and launch this year and got to get through a football season, which was Rome's goal. So many football seasons in the past to get this up, to really talk football and establish where the podcast. Podcast was at. I think we've had some good episodes. It's gotten better and, you know, it'll be bigger stakes in 2025 for us, man. I think a lot of we'll have an interesting post. Football, you know, segments, problems. Probably want to talk a lot of basketball that Aaron and I may or may not tune into. We'll get some hockey playoffs in. I'll bore you guys with some more Formula one this year with a full season of Formula one. [01:43:46] Speaker C: Formula one's on, man. I'm ready. [01:43:49] Speaker D: So I, I mean, that could be accomplishment for me. I mean, I got, you know, two new guys into the. The Formula one group right now so we can chat some Formula one. [01:43:56] Speaker B: You got me to talk Formula One drunk in a bar. I think that's pretty successful, man. [01:44:00] Speaker D: Put you as a Formula one expert out there in. In San Francisco on the streets, you know. [01:44:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy. [01:44:06] Speaker D: So, yeah, a lot, A lot of good stuff to look forward to on the pod, I think in 2025 as we continue to continue to grow as a show. [01:44:14] Speaker C: Yeah, man. I mean, I agree, Jason. I mean, just getting the show going. I mean, Rome, you were in my ear back in 2020 when we were up there in San Francisco and covet talking about doing a pod. And then it's like every year, hey, let's do it. Let's do it. It's like June, it's July. Oh, it's August. Oh, the season started all right next year. So it was great to get that started here after Labor Day weekend. Got through football season. That's great. Still got another month or so with college and pro for the Super Bowl. Be interesting to see how the off season non football year goes. But like Jason said, we got some Formula One. [01:44:50] Speaker B: I'm really curious too. [01:44:51] Speaker C: March Madness. [01:44:52] Speaker B: It's obviously we just want like, like football the most. [01:44:55] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, I mean, it's one game a week, so it's easy to talk about versus three, four or five games. I mean, fantasy, baseball, other stuff going on. We can talk fantasy and all that stuff. Baseball, national League. American League. So I'm excited about where we can go. Obviously, we got some new fans, a possible cup of coffee pro coming on the show here in the next week or two. So that's, you know, great. So I'm looking forward to it, man. [01:45:22] Speaker B: Cool. Deal. Thursday, we'll be back then for the last edition of the lines. [01:45:30] Speaker D: Regular season lines, man. Then we're. Now we're doing postseason lines. [01:45:34] Speaker C: Yeah, you gotta double up on that. [01:45:35] Speaker B: Double up. [01:45:37] Speaker C: It's like a two line hit, you. [01:45:39] Speaker B: Know, a two line hit. [01:45:44] Speaker D: That's Pacino, Pacino and Scarface lines right there, you know? [01:45:47] Speaker B: You know, I hate that movie. [01:45:49] Speaker D: Really. [01:45:50] Speaker B: I get upset every time I watch it. I just can't watch it. Just irritating. [01:45:54] Speaker D: Interesting take. [01:45:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I haven't seen in a while, but I used to have like Scarface posters and blankets and all this stuff in college. And I. I don't think I've seen in like 15 years at least. [01:46:06] Speaker D: So did you just like the vibe of the movie? You got all this stuff and then you actually watched the movie? I'm like, hey, this movie is not as good as I thought. [01:46:12] Speaker B: No, I watched it. I was really into it then. And then I don't know what happened. Like, I probably watched it sober. Finally one time I was like, what? This guy's guy's an guy up so many times. Really, it really pissed me off. I don't know. It was rough. [01:46:26] Speaker D: All right, we'll save it for the the movie podcast. That yet? [01:46:30] Speaker B: I know that's a 2025, man. Beautiful. That'll be a wrap. We'll catch you on the other side of the new year Thursday with new lines.