NFL Lines & Sides for Thanksgiving Weekend

November 30, 2025 00:52:55
NFL Lines & Sides for Thanksgiving Weekend
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NFL Lines & Sides for Thanksgiving Weekend

Nov 30 2025 | 00:52:55

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Roman Valdez Aaron Toller Jaeson Zinke

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The guys go over the Sunday and Monday slate of games for Thanksgiving weekend and a slew of other seasonal topics. They start with the Sunday morning games before covering the late afternoon games including Sunday and Monday Night Football (22:04). Rome reveals his Power Rankings going into Thanksgiving Day (43:38) before he revels over his Lakers recent run to end the pod. 

Host: Rome Valdez

Co-Hosts: Aaron Toller, Jaeson Zinke

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:03] Speaker B: What's up, y'? All? It is time for the NFL lines for week 13 and we got some big games. They got a big game this week that's going to decide a lot of things going on here. Let's kick it off with Texans, Colts, Colts here by four and a half. Another big game, playoff implications. Texans one of the toughest defenses showing out this year. It's a must win for both teams, really. Jason, who do you got? [00:00:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I think if you look at the past couple weeks, Rome, like, I. I mean, we were really feeling the Colts there for a good portion of the stretch and, you know, two out of the last three weeks just haven't seen the offense to where it was at. You know, Jonathan Taylor not getting as much and you're playing a really strong defensive line, as you mentioned here for the Texans. The Texans offense, I, I don't know if they found something here to a degree. They, they. I guess they've protected the quarterback a little bit better. You've had these Davis Mills appearances and things like that we've talked through. I just think you're. You're bound after seeing this offense not do well against the Steelers and, you know, kind of a little bit bounce back for the Falcons. But a tough game against the Chiefs. You're going to go back indoors now for the Colts. I think they feel comfortable indoors. It's a lot of points. But I'm going to get back on Aaron's guy Steichen here. I think they're going to cover. They need to make a statement in this division right now. They'll cover the four and a half. [00:01:33] Speaker B: Aaron. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I told you last week, I put that loss on Shane Steichen. I think he's going to go back, look at the film. I think he's going to come back motivated with a good game plan here. Texans have been playing well. Beat Buffalo, came back, beat Jacksonville. C.J. strout's likely back in this game, but we all know guys that have been out for a while coming back first game usually do not perform well. I think Jason hit it best. They're back at home indoors. I think Taylor has a big game. I like the Colts here. Four and a half. I think this is the close game. People think blowout of the week. I like the Colts by two touchdowns or more. Give me them. That's. That's a lock this week. The Colts minus four and a half. [00:02:12] Speaker B: A lock of the week. Okay, I'm just gonna write it down by 2tds here. I like The Colts here. But I'm really curious how the, how the text respond if there's a game that can kind of shut the, you know, all the crit critics up. The Texans D just shows up out here and puts Daniel Jones in a flurry, so to speak. Say what you will, some people already jumping off the damn Jones bandwagon. He has had pretty good numbers. Aside from that one game where he had a couple interceptions, he's looked pretty solid. Aaron, you defended Jones last week but criticized stiking on the play calling here. They should respond, but I'm taking the call to the points but Sunday morning because now we're in the Sunday morning games here. This might be a heavy lean taking the Texans and the points and upsetting the Colts on the road to throw the whole playoff in the AFC seating in disarray. I'm just liking the grit and the gritty with this Texas team. [00:03:20] Speaker C: Carlos, so who are you taking? [00:03:22] Speaker A: He's taking the Colts. Yeah. [00:03:23] Speaker C: Okay. Just want to make sure. I thought he did Aaron, but like he did this whole thing and I'm like, okay, is he like hedging against himself, not writing it down? You know it's going to be either or pick when he does the standings here to try to gain back. [00:03:35] Speaker A: Somebody's got two legal pads there. He just shows you the one. Yeah, he switches it out. Right. [00:03:41] Speaker C: I just want to make sure we get the right pitch. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Not my fault you guys have a third grade reading level or listening level. [00:03:46] Speaker C: I. Yeah, no, no, I'm listening just fine. So I'm just making sure what's. I just want to know what selective listening you're going to apply to on what you write down. [00:03:55] Speaker A: I don't know if I'm listening to Romer on a date. I'm just kind of. I get kind of confused from time to time based off all the jabber jabber I hear going back and forth. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Yeah, Cardinals, Bucks. Bucks here by three. Aaron, who you got? [00:04:10] Speaker A: If there was ever a stay away game, this is it. Because I don't, I don't even know who's playing for Tampa Bay. I mean, this Baker gonna play. I see Bucky's back. They say Godwin's gonna get some more. Love Cardinals. I saw Marvin Harrison practice on a limited basis. So is he coming back? I think Baker's not going to play and for that I'm going to take the cards plus three. I just, I don't trust Teddy Bridgewater. I think Baker's gonna sit out this game. I'm going to Go Cardinals plus three on the road. Don't love it. I wouldn't touch it. Don't. Don't bet this one, folks. So. But I'll go Cards plus three. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Jason. [00:04:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree with Aaron just how bad this is. I mean Baker was non participant in practice. I think he was like he said he's not going to play, but Cardinals just haven't been great, just in disarray. I think with Bucky Irving coming back, I think there's a way that they get, you know, shoulder load him a little bit with Bridgewater in Godwin, you know, getting a few steps back to. Zaron mentioned the Bucks defense, you know, honestly hasn't been very good the past couple weeks as they've gotten really, gone through three really strong opponents. I mean they played, I mean they play the who's who are really good teams here with the Patriots, Bills and Rams. All right. A row so that they weren't playing no slouches. But the Cardinals, man, I just, I just don't know what to say with this Cardinals team. Week over week. Obviously put up some yards and points with, with Kyler being out, but no real great feeling about it, but I'll take the Bucks. [00:05:41] Speaker B: Nice. Wait, you're taking the Bucks? [00:05:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:45] Speaker B: So opposite. [00:05:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Okay, got it. Damn. Well, because you're talking about the Cards. Talk about switcheroo here. I'm going the Bucks here, despite everything like that, just Bucks, really. There's more like a gut feel here. They're. They're still really good team. They got some guys coming back. Brissette Cardinals, we've talked about it. They've been lights out, stats wise, since he's taken over under center. I just feel like we're just gonna have a little letdown finally from the Cardinals. Their record is who they are basically. And the Bucks have to win this one because whether you like it or not, Aaron, Panthers are still alive in this division and they're not a bad football team. [00:06:33] Speaker A: So you're right, Rome, they're a terrible football team. [00:06:38] Speaker B: I'll take the Bucks. The points. Jags, Titans. [00:06:42] Speaker C: Jason, Titans just can't score points. And even though this is six, you know, six and a half right now, the Jaguars really need, need to win this game. I think there's, there's signs of the running game and where we can go. I just, for no other reason, I just, I don't know. I know the Titans are giving me week to week. It's a lot of points, but I'll take the Jags. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Aaron. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I Mean we talked about a week in, week out. How are the Titans going to stay in games? They've covered three straight games against the spread which is surprising given how terrible they are. What 1 in 10 Jacksonville we know they can put up points. Trevor Lawrence kind of up and down making plays against Arizona and throwing some bad picks. Three TDs, three interceptions last week. But defensively Jacksonville's really good. They can run the ball. Like Jason mentioned, I think they control the clock. Titans, I don't trust them. A lot of these covers are back doors. I going to take the Jags. They need to win. No doubt about it. Titans aren't playing for anything but the first pick in the draft again anyway. So I'm going to go Jaguars minus six and a half. [00:07:48] Speaker B: I'm still not sold on the Jags being a really good team. I think half these wins have been pretty to be honest with you and when you go to like the secondary stats they will tell you the same thing. Tie ins have been backdoor and covering but to be honest they've been competitive. In all a lot of these like good teams, you know they, they, they, they, they show up and impress us all. They have come up good against the spread. Six and a half points at home. They're gonna show up. I believe they're gonna make it competitive. They're gonna shock some people. I don't think they're gonna win at all. But to be a little less than a touchdown in I will take them. Jags have won a couple games in a row. They're due for letdown anyways. So for I will take the gamble and take the Jags or the Titans at home. Rams, Panthers. Big spread here. Rams here by 10 and a half on the road in Carolina. Jason. [00:08:44] Speaker C: Yeah, big spread west coast to east coast we talk about that a ton but this Rams team is just really good and I think the Panthers have definitely showed some flaws here recently in some of these games. Stafford has just been electric. What does he got only two interceptions so far this Aaron if I, if I get that right the packers game is probably the most impressive win on that. This the resume so far that they've had over the past couple of weeks for the Panthers but I, I just like the Rams too much and where this are at. I think they've planted the Eagles as being the class of the NFC I going cross country but they're really, they've beaten some good teams up, they've beaten some bad teams up and I think they when they get some in their sights so I'll take the Rams. [00:09:37] Speaker B: Aaron. [00:09:38] Speaker A: Well, Rome, you talked about it early. We started the show my Monday ran against the Panthers. I said then I was taking the Rams. I'm still taking the Rams here. I mean Stafford, like Jason says, 30 tds, 2 interceptions. Carolina thin in the secondary. JC Horn, I likely out. He's not practicing. Concussion. They have the guy that's suspended for throwing low blows, so he's out. Their linebacking course not great. And the Rams defensively, I mean, we're not. We're talking about how good Stafford is. But what about this defensive line, these linebackers, secondary. I mean, what they did to Tampa Bay was the ass whooping of the week. Can they. This team has gone like Jason said, they. They traveled to London, landed and then basically played a football game 12 hours later, blew out Jacksonville. You're telling me they can't cover ten and a half here against the Rams? Come on, Sean McVeigh, throw me a bone. Give me the Rams minus ten and a half. [00:10:29] Speaker B: Just because the Rams seem like the obvious answer. I'm going opposite here. This is the NFL here. I'm not going to go with the obvious answers. That's how we always get stuck. I'm just going to go with the Panthers plus and a half. That's a lot of points. Anyways, Panthers could have played better last game. Aaron went on a big epic rant. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah, they could have played better. They should have played better. [00:10:48] Speaker B: How they suck then you're also talking Sean Purdy, let alone this guy's still recovering from a turf toe. Obviously that still affected him because he had no velocity on his throw. [00:10:56] Speaker A: Well, look, Mac Jones should be in the lineup like Jason said and he should be in the lamp this week and that will affect the in the game. What we got coming up when I. [00:11:04] Speaker B: Make a play for that one anyways, I still think Panthers is a good team. Every time they ran, they run. Who's the running back? Dim, whittle, dowdle, dowdo. There you go. I said Damn widdle. [00:11:22] Speaker A: But Dr. Doolittle or what? [00:11:24] Speaker B: No dibble is another running back somewhere else, right? No, no, dude, they're all the same. All the same names. Anyways. When they run him, I think it's like 15 times or less. They lose when they do it more they win. I think they're 6 and 1 when they do that. So if they go to the running game, I think they're going to shock some people. Rams are kind of due for a loss here and they'll do it in Carolina we got two more games in the morning here. Two more games. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Three. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Oh. All right. Saints, Dolphins, Dolphins here by six. Jason, you want to be first on. [00:12:01] Speaker C: Like, every game now. Rome, is that the. The new order we're going in here? [00:12:04] Speaker B: I forgot. I just. Because I'm taking bites of this impossible burger, and I'm just thinking, like, dude, this does not taste like meat at all. I'm debating of feeding it to my dog, but, like, I'm not sure if he'll eat at all. [00:12:14] Speaker A: Look it. That's what you do. If the dog sniffs and don't touch it, you don't eat it. Because if anything, a dog don't eat, you don't want to eat. [00:12:20] Speaker C: I'm just like. I'm, like, looking at the games, thinking I got, like a minute or something like that until you go and it's, like, adjacent. All right, cool. All right, well, I'll still go. Rome. Saints, Dolphins. I don't want anything to do with this game. I will not watch it at all. But I still think the Saints are a really bad team. The Dolphins aren't great either, but they've shown some signs of life week after week when they get the ball to H. And I think they could still do that in this game and get the ball to HN and be successful. Apparently, McDaniel's keeping his job. I mean, we're not talking about it anymore. They've won three out of their last four and maybe have found something here. It's a lot of points, but I think a touchdown. Moore can win this for the Dolphins. So I'll take the Dolphins minus six. [00:13:01] Speaker B: Aaron? [00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, we talk about the Titans not be able to score points, but how are the Saints going to score points? Well, they scored 10 points last week against the Falcons. Miami's coming off a buy. They've been more impressive. They got rid of the GM Coach sounds like he's safe with coaches driving around town showing the losing teams what's up. I think they do it again here. I love the Dolphins minus six. Saints just can't keep pace. Achan and those boys have a nice game. The defense for Miami's come alive here in the last month. I like the Dolphins here at home. [00:13:32] Speaker B: They're at home. The weather's about to get really shitty with all the hurricanes. They're feeling nice. McDaniel doesn't look as coked out. Vibes are good in Miami. [00:13:42] Speaker A: He says he's been sober for like 10 years. Man, if you listen to. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah, drinking, a lot of people don't consider doing hard drugs from the sober life. [00:13:54] Speaker C: It's also the end of hurricane season, isn't it? Right now, hurricane season's more in the August and September time. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Geologists here, Jason. But the point is it's hurricane meteorologist. [00:14:04] Speaker C: Whatever geologist you'd be on Landman looking for oil right now. [00:14:09] Speaker A: Right? [00:14:10] Speaker B: You get my trip now? [00:14:12] Speaker C: I don't know. Everything you said in this particular game has been wrong so far. So I'm scared that you're gonna pick the same game Aaron and I did. [00:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I picked the Dolphins. Dude, I'm picking Dolphins. [00:14:23] Speaker A: You know, hey, Rome, you should go. You should use your advice you use in the other game. Don't take the obvious pick, which is the Dolphins, and go to the Saints. [00:14:31] Speaker B: No, the Saints would be the obvious pick. Six points. That's kind of like a little teaser here. They've been competitive in a lot of these games, but they're just not that good. And dolphins, say what you will, they've showed out still in a lot of these games. So they're just no match for this. There's just no way that this is a close game at all. I think Dolphins win by at least 10 points in this one. And yeah, dude, McDonald's gonna keep his job. Go figure. He's not bad. I guess he's not that bad of a coach. Falcons. Jets. Falcons here by 2 and a half in the middle ends. Aaron, thanks for going for me first. [00:15:11] Speaker A: On this one, Rome. Yeah, look, Falcons. Kirk Cousins got a nice win last week. It gets a bad Saints team. They go against another bad team here on the Jets. [00:15:20] Speaker B: On the. [00:15:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I don't think the Falcons go in here and win two games in a row on the road. I like what I saw from the jets last week. I don't like what I've kind of seen from them the last couple weeks. Defensively has been better, I think, Tyrone. [00:15:34] Speaker B: Because they trade everybody away. [00:15:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, they've just been playing. I mean, if you look at the numbers, have been playing pretty well. They've held Baltimore in check, you know, got us to cover there with a hook. I think the jets won this game outright. So I'm going to take the points and I think Tyrod Taylor, the running game, the jets just. I mean, if you go back and look, Breeze hall fumbled, what, at the one yard line when he's getting ready to go in for a score? They just do stupid over and over. Lucky for them, the Falcons can never be consistent enough to win when you think they should. So using Your logic that you've been using about five picks. Rome, the pick here is the Jets. I'm gonna go with them and I think they went out right. [00:16:09] Speaker B: Jason, I'm gonna agree with Aaron. [00:16:12] Speaker C: There's just no consistency this Falcons team and even though you're a two win jets team, you've had some minor improvements with there. I think they're almost two opposite, direct, opposite directions are going. You expected a lot from this Falcons team at the beginning of the year. You're sitting there, you know, three and two and then they go on a five, six game losing streak. Quarterbacks out. I think Drake London's doubtful to play in this game as well too. It's just not the year. [00:16:35] Speaker A: London is out. Yes. [00:16:36] Speaker C: Yeah. So it just isn't the year for the Falcons right now. And I think the Jets. I'll take the jets as well. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Nice. This would be a stay away from me but I'm reluctantly going with the Jets. Just on vibes here. Plus two and a half last Sunday morning. Game 49ers and Browns. Shador Sanders makes a second start with that stout defense. Garrett having a legendary season from the defensive side. Aaron, who you got? [00:17:09] Speaker A: Yeah, Rome, we've got. We've talked about teams traveling west to east short week. Shador getting the second star like you mentioned. For me this is a game where it comes down to defenses. Brown's got a good defense. You're giving me them five and a half at home. Brock Purdy turns the ball over a lot. Shadora can turn it over a lot. Both teams are going to rely on the run game. I think it's a slugfest defensive, low scoring game, run type game. The Cathry probably has a big game. He's probably the difference. Why him and kittle why the 49ers win. But I'm going to take the Browns plus five and a half. Just too many points here. As long as Shador plays within himself doesn't turn it over, Cleveland's defense will be able to shut down this Niners team that lacks explosive play. So I'm going to take the Browns plus five and a half. [00:17:57] Speaker C: Jason, gonna agree with Aaron on this one. I mean initially I'm like man, like you're looking at a Salah defense versus, you know, Shador in his second start and what can you do? Expose a rookie quarterback. But now the flip side, you got Purdy in a three interception game and then the Niners defense, as good as it's been, still a lot of backup parts there. The Browns defense has kept them in a ton this year, regardless of kind of where the quarterback plays at. And I think if you're just giving me that many points, it's going to be a close game. So I'll take the Browns plus five and a half as well. [00:18:30] Speaker B: So I know you guys have been pretty tough on Purdy, but Purdy is one of the winningest quarterbacks in the NFL, especially with the trio of Cats title. And who else? I'm thinking of McCaffrey. [00:18:43] Speaker C: Yeah, nobody else because they. They released Ayuk this week, and Debo ain't there no more. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Well, Ayuk is trash, dude. There's so many good memes going around. You pay the guy because he wants to leave. He plays like, oh, you don't give me enough attention. [00:19:02] Speaker A: Right. So did he not even get paid because they voided that contract? No, he got. [00:19:06] Speaker B: He got. Voided everything else out, but he still got the initial payout. Whatever was the first guaranteed payout. [00:19:12] Speaker A: I think you only got, what, 26 and a half mil? [00:19:16] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, he missed on everything else, and it was just like, oh, all you have to do is just show it to practices, be a good teammate, show support, show. The film room couldn't do that guy's a drama queen. So, yeah, dude, that guy's done. That guy's done. Purdy, though, he, you know, he looked good on this game back. But then going back to last week here at home, we face the Carolina Panthers. A lot of those throws, they just kind of sailed. I wanted to talk about it during the podcast. I can't remember, like, why we got distracted. I think it's because Aaron's going on his rants for the Carolina Panthers. But, yeah, he just said, we got. [00:19:58] Speaker A: A guy selling it. Just. [00:20:01] Speaker B: He just did not look like he had any velocity. He, you know, he. He just looked very uncomfortable in the pocket. He's still ailing from that. And I know that's a tough entry to come back from. Everyone in the NFL has said that's, like, one of the worst injuries to come back from. It's worse than, like, a torn ligament. Everything like that. He just does not look okay. I'm not sure if there's like, a up and down depending on how many epidurals or, like, if you're like Marshawn lynch, like, could you take, like, a couple shots of Hennessy before the game? He doesn't look like a Hennessy kind of guy. You know, he looks like it's taking, like, ibuprofen, like a. Like a gatorade that's not going to be enough to. To show out. I like Shador. And the Browns defense is a top three defense in the NFL and Miles Garrett is. Dude, I'm worried about Purdy, dude. If he gets his hands on Purdy, Purdy's going to be in some pretty big trouble here. Five and a half points. I don't know if they win, but I expect it to be pretty competitive. And Shore's career is online. Here he has a show out. Stefanski and the whole organization. Everybody else out, say what you will, but they have not shown him a lot of love. And it's kind of like despite the fact he's getting another start. So just because he did good against the Raiders. So I'll take them with the points. [00:21:16] Speaker C: Miles Garrett, I mean, he's not far off from the NFL record right now. [00:21:22] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:21:24] Speaker C: He's four and a half away. He's currently got 18 sacks. The record is 22 and a half. [00:21:30] Speaker B: He's gonna crush it. He's been getting two or three every week. [00:21:33] Speaker C: Yeah. So I think really something to look at here in this game. [00:21:37] Speaker B: He's gonna break T.J. watts record. Who he tied, I believe it was. Was it his brother that he tied. [00:21:43] Speaker A: With or what do they play? Was that. Was that game two matchup between those guys? [00:21:49] Speaker B: I don't know about it. He'll probably break it in three games. [00:21:52] Speaker A: He probably break it in that game. [00:21:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Strahan and T.J. watt have the record room. [00:21:59] Speaker B: There you go. There you go. Yeah. All right. And to the afternoon games here. We're almost there, guys. Down the stretch. Viking Seahawks. Seahawks here by 12 and a half. Ridiculous spread here, Jason. Or maybe to me, I don't know. [00:22:18] Speaker C: It does feel ridiculous because I don't even know who the starting quarterback for the Vikings is. I. I know I picked him up in one of my keeper fantasy leagues just to have a backup. It's like the third string guy, Aaron. Do you know his name offhand? [00:22:31] Speaker B: A rookie. [00:22:33] Speaker C: I think it's a. It's like an undrafted like rookie that. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:36] Speaker C: Playing right now. [00:22:37] Speaker A: Max Brosmer from Minnesota University. [00:22:41] Speaker C: Okay, so they just like basically took him off of the University of Minnesota's practice squad. [00:22:45] Speaker A: I guess pro comparison is compared to TJ Yates. That's what he was compared to in the draft. [00:22:51] Speaker C: Okay, well, there you have it. I think it's a lot of points, but man, this Seahawks team's really good. And if you're going to go into this thing without basically a pro level quarterback, I mean, Roman you had your guy like hall of Fame backup Mason Rudolph last week. [00:23:08] Speaker A: First the Bears hold up. Have the Bear. Have the Vikings even thrown out an NFL caliber quarterback this year? I'm just curious. Possibly not. Possibly not. [00:23:17] Speaker C: I mean, there was a guy that in the fourth quarter versus the Bears in week one that looked pretty good. But no, I mean, how hard is this league? Rome, you had Mason Rudolph, career backup over. I sent you the stat. You didn't want to read it about the Steelers not completing a pass beyond 20 yards for like four weeks straight. [00:23:32] Speaker B: And now you're well aware of the stat, Jason. [00:23:34] Speaker C: Okay. All right. [00:23:35] Speaker A: I'm just letting you know that stat to me is relevant over that DVOA that got thrown out about an hour ago. [00:23:41] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:23:42] Speaker B: You didn't throw it out, Aaron. [00:23:43] Speaker A: You. [00:23:43] Speaker B: You basically double down on it. [00:23:45] Speaker C: Well, he. I think he just checked he. Chat GPT. What the hell? It was. [00:23:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:51] Speaker C: It was a very professional response by Aaron. And the text, by the way, for. [00:23:54] Speaker A: Dbo, can I get a bank loan, please? [00:23:57] Speaker B: Don't use chat GBT to use the invaluable resource. Just Google search it. All right, Just, just Google search it. You don't need chat GPT for that. [00:24:04] Speaker C: Well, back to the game room. This is a good Seahawks team. This is a Vikings theme again. How do you score and make points where the Vikings or the Seahawks know how to score and take points? You're at home, it's a ton of points, but I'll take the Seahawks. [00:24:17] Speaker A: Aaron, you're right. Roman is a ridiculous line. It's ridiculous that you're only favoring Seahawks by 12 and a half against a quarterback that I, I don't even know if he knows where the, his locker is at the Minnesota Vikings facility. In fact, you know, he just, he, he parks. He doesn't even know where to park. He parks off campus, off site. Seattle here, they know what's up. Tough gloss against the Rams. Two weeks ago, Tennessee, they were blowing them out by 22 different times. Tennessee kind of came back and one got back and covered. That's because they had Cam Ward. A decent quarterback just has no players. Problem with Minnesota is if they had Cam Ward, they'd be right where the Bears are right now at 8 and 3. But they don't. They got this Max Promer, whoever he is. So go ahead, give me Seattle, give me the 12th man. Because look, Vikings can have 12, 13 guys on the field and ain't going to help him against these boys. Give me Seattle. Big over the Vikings. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah, this one's Like a, A stay away here. The spread's too big. Vikings have stayed within the spread in every single game they've had. They've been blown out once. Really? And Seahawks have only blown out one team all year round. [00:25:25] Speaker A: I don't know how you can say the Vines got blown out once. I was there at Sofi when they got their ass handed to them. They just got their ass handed to them again last week. [00:25:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Anyways, Seahawks, they did blow out the Cardinals, but that's like their only big victory since the Saints. Everything else has been pretty close here. Is J.J. mcCarthy out? Yeah. [00:25:50] Speaker A: Yes. [00:25:50] Speaker C: That's what we've been saying. [00:25:51] Speaker A: He's out. They're starting to. They're starting a rookie quarterback who's the backup to him though. Jason. Do you know? [00:25:56] Speaker B: Because when there's no one else, there's nobody else. [00:25:58] Speaker C: I don't know. Joe Webb. Is Joe Webb on the roster or. [00:26:02] Speaker B: They don't have anyone else unless they call somebody up from the practice squad. [00:26:06] Speaker C: They should have traded for Kirk Cousins when they had the chance, right? [00:26:09] Speaker B: Ah, Jesus Christ. [00:26:12] Speaker C: They don't have one. [00:26:13] Speaker A: I see. [00:26:14] Speaker C: I see. Carson Wentz and Brosma and McCarthy the only one on there. [00:26:18] Speaker B: Yeah, well, because they were having Wentz play and he's played through like a lot of injuries to give, but once. [00:26:24] Speaker A: He'S on season ending ir. [00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah, he's done. Yeah. This is an ugly one. I guess so since they have a rookie quarterback. I don't like this one at all. [00:26:36] Speaker A: I mean talk about MVPs. Smith, Nick Jacobus Smith. I mean what he's doing is. I mean he might break the old time receiving yards in the season. On pace for it right now to be Calvin Johnson's record. [00:26:48] Speaker B: He's killing it. [00:26:52] Speaker A: Big game here. [00:26:53] Speaker B: Yeah. This is unknown. You have a quarterback. We have no idea how he's going to perform. [00:26:58] Speaker A: Another thing wrong. Before you finish. I forgot to. We didn't even bring it up. Revenge game for Sam Darnold. We didn't even bring that up. [00:27:06] Speaker B: This is a revenge game. [00:27:08] Speaker C: No, no. [00:27:09] Speaker B: You need, you need the quarterback that took his place to be a revenge game like this game. [00:27:14] Speaker A: No, I would 100 disagree with that. [00:27:16] Speaker C: This is against the organization. That shows you didn't want me. You didn't believe in me big enough after I delivered you a want. [00:27:22] Speaker B: They didn't want to pay him the full amount that he was asking for and he took even less with the Seahawks. That's totally different. [00:27:28] Speaker A: I think it's a big revenge game for Sam Darnold. [00:27:30] Speaker B: He could have signed. [00:27:32] Speaker C: All right, well, so you're taking Minnesota room? [00:27:34] Speaker B: No, no, I said Seahawks. [00:27:36] Speaker C: Oh, oh, okay. All right, all right. [00:27:38] Speaker B: You gotta listen, listen. [00:27:40] Speaker C: I'm, I'm just. You're making such a case for Minnesota and everything right now, so I just. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Want to make sure I did not make a case. All right? [00:27:47] Speaker C: Bill. [00:27:47] Speaker B: Steelers. Steelers getting three points on this one Sunday afternoon. Jason. [00:27:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean I, I already cited you your stat about your Steelers passing attack. Right now this Bill's defense, probably not as good as the Bears, but the Bill, the Bills offense is, is pretty good. And Josh Allen, the only thing with Josh Allen right now, he's kind of doing everything himself. And they are relying on James Cook. I mean he's number two in the league in rushing right now. So it's almost a two man show on that offense here. But the Bills need to get in gear and keep it in pace. Three points, you know, within the touchdown game could be end up being a push but I'll take the Bills minus three. [00:28:24] Speaker B: Aaron? [00:28:25] Speaker A: Yeah, this is a tough game here. I mean Mike Tomlin's just been dominated in the past by Josh Allen. He's owned them. He's, he's put up good numbers against them. But the Bills right now, they are really, really struggling defensively. They've not very good. Jason, you point out the stat. The Steelers don't throw the ball, but teams have been running the ball well on the Bills. I don't love it, but I'm going to take the Steelers here getting three points. Rogers is likely back, who knows. But I'll take the Steelers plus three. I, I don't love it, but I'll take the points here at home. For a team that needs to continue to win to stay in the playoff hunt and win the division, yeah, this. [00:29:06] Speaker B: Is a pretty big for the Steelers. For as bad as they played against the Bears, they still almost won. This is still a really good team and it's more like they shot themselves in the foot more than, than their opponent. So I think still a show for this one. Builder's still really good. They're going to be in the hunt for the playoffs. Steelers, they got to put some game plans together to get some pass plays here. Their running game starting to come together. The defense has been pretty competitive. They haven't put too many games from A to Z or like from minute 0 to minute 60 together. Last game they totally shut the bed in the second half. They have to show up this weekend. I will take them three points. I don't know if they win. I hope that they win, which sucks because I also like the Bills, but. Come through. Steelers all right. Come through. Raiders, Chargers, chargers here by 9 and a half at home. Big divisional game. Aaron. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Yeah, Raiders. We talked about it Sunday, I believe, or Monday when they fired Chip Kelly, who's calling plays now for them. Do you know? [00:30:20] Speaker B: Doesn't matter. I don't know. [00:30:21] Speaker A: I. That's. That's what I mean. Rome doesn't matter. Charges coming off a bye week. Well, obviously they were on two bye weeks because they did not show up in Jacksonville. I was talking to G. He's like, yeah, basically they rented a place down there at south beach and they're at the elbow room night early and did not show up against Jacksonville. So, look, we all know the Raiders can't score. Chargers, bye week. Hardball should have these guys up for this game. It's a big game. Divisional game, obviously. Chargers need to keep winning. How tight that AFC playoff pitcher is. Raiders. Maybe a new play caller. They try to throw some wrinkles out there, but they don't even have any playmakers. They're off into lines bad. I'm gonna play it safe and take the better team here. I'm gonna take the Chargers minus nine and a half. [00:31:03] Speaker B: Jason. [00:31:04] Speaker C: I'll take the Chargers, too. Aaron, I'll correct you, the elbow room is in Miami. Jacksonville is nowhere near Miami. So I just want to. [00:31:10] Speaker A: They didn't show up to Jacksonville. Okay. All right. The old elbow room. So. [00:31:16] Speaker C: Gotcha. Okay. All right. So they were. They're all the other. [00:31:18] Speaker A: That's where I was hinting at. They just weren't in Jacksonville. [00:31:21] Speaker C: Gotcha. Okay. All right. Well, regardless, I think they've gotten their time out in Florida out of the way. They are not traveling back east, which. That's what we learned about the Chargers. They just don't know how to go back into the eastern time zone. The Raiders don't know who's calling the plays. Don't know what this team can do offensively. They can't run the ball with Genty. There's a lot of options. Hampton maybe coming back here for the Chargers, it's possibility. But if not, they still got a running game, a solid running game. Without him. Chargers might have signed a half for me, too. [00:31:49] Speaker B: For a team that can't run the game with gentle. He's still getting over 125 yards of scrimmage game. [00:31:54] Speaker A: But because all they can do is check downs. Rome, that's it. That's their offense. [00:31:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Check down. [00:31:58] Speaker B: Agenty and like 80 game though. On runs but no. Tough to see how this new look Raiders team is going to look like Pete Carroll. Reports have come out yesterday and today that he's not going away. He might stick for year two. There's no quit in him. But honestly, who has the heart to tell them that there's a quitting and the Raiders. There's an I quit in the Raiders because they're not changed gears here. It's not looking good. Charges have covered when they've been up against inferior opponents. I think it's just one game that they did not show out for. Otherwise they covered the spread in this one. Plus they're at home. This is not like a playoff team by any means. It is a divisional game but I think they won by like 12 or 14 points. I just totally missed it. I had up here but nine and a half. I, I, I, I hate doing these big spreads with divisional games because you just don't know. But hardball, man, hardball. We'll see if this team can start looking like a hardball team down the stretch because they have not looked like that for a good part this season. Broncos. That's my. As my phone went out. Broncos Commanders. Broncos here by five and a half on the road in Washington for Donald Trump's alleged supposed name Sake Stadium being in construction here for his beloved Commanders. What a joke. Jason, who you got. [00:33:34] Speaker C: Yeah, I know where you're going with that. It's the new stadium. It's not gonna be, it's not gonna be in Virginia or whatever it's at. [00:33:40] Speaker B: He wants to be called Trump Stadium. [00:33:42] Speaker C: He does. But not the current one they're playing at. So we can save that for now. Yeah, I don't love this game at all. Either way. The Broncos obviously a better team right now, but as all the flack the Bears have gotten for not beating anyone, I think there's been some similar conversation about the way the Broncos have gotten lucky in some of their games and who they've beaten as well too. But their game's pretty tight. A lot. They don't. They play a lot of tight games. They beat the Chiefs by three, Raiders by three, Texans by three. Their biggest win was Cowboys. They beat him by 20, but beat the Giants by one in that miraculous comeback. Jets by two, Eagles by four. So ton of close games. The Commanders, yes. They're not starting. They're starting to back up. There was wide receivers potentially getting healthy. I think Terry McLaren's playing today. It is in. Well, not Washington or Virginia. Wherever it's play Just for the fact of the five and a half. I think it's a little too much for this Broncos team on the road. Going to take the commanders. [00:34:39] Speaker B: Nice, Aaron. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Yeah, you got both teams coming off a buy, you know, as the top team there in that division. Commanders got that big win. Are com. Yeah. Commanders. No, they're coming off that overtime loss against Miami was a tough one, but Dan Quinn took over play call duties and the defense actually looked a lot better. As Jason mentioned, they're supposed to be getting some playmakers back. I like Washington here plus five and a half, so I'm going to go with the commanders as well. Broncos don't blow anybody out. We don't know we're going to get from them offensively. Defensively, we know we're going to get from them under 43 and a half, probably a good play as well. But I think Keith comes, Barry will have a nice game plan for this one and I'm going with the commanders plus five and a half. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Theoretical situation. What if Ben Johnson did take this commander's job instead, you know, you guys ever think about that, guys? Huh? [00:35:35] Speaker A: I probably did last year for a minute. But hey, look, they got to the NFC championship game last year, so maybe that's what the Bears do this year. [00:35:44] Speaker B: I, I, I, I, I still think it was a better job, but yeah, five and a half points. Commanders still talented team. They're underperforming this here Jason has on them all season long, especially in defense for Caleb Johnson or Caleb Williams being better than than the commander's quarterback. Which, come on, I don't know. Yeah, you're down here. You can't be, you can't throw the ball when you have both shoulders broken. But you know, you know, five and a half points. Yeah, why not? [00:36:19] Speaker C: Caleb Johnson is the running back for your Pittsburgh Steelers. That's just wasting away on a dynasty fantasy team that I have. [00:36:25] Speaker A: The rookie from Iowa. [00:36:26] Speaker C: Yeah. The guy that I thought was gonna be the heir apparent to Naji Harris that like just lost. I don't even know if he's in the offensive team room anymore. [00:36:33] Speaker A: Well, he's not in special teams room anymore because he doesn't know how to recover. [00:36:36] Speaker B: Kickoffs on the game against Seattle, Greenwell has been shining. [00:36:41] Speaker A: Yeah, Greenwell's been playing well. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:43] Speaker C: You mean game well. [00:36:45] Speaker B: There you go. Greenwell came well. Giants. Get well, get well. All right. Giants Patriots pats fair by seven and a half over the Giants. Jason. [00:37:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Pretty big spread for a Giants team that even though they haven't won Games. They have been in a lot of games. So obviously they lost last second to the Lions last week. They had the last second loss of the Bears and the Broncos and everything like that. Man, seven is just a lot of points. Even though as good this Patriots team is, I don't love it. But the Giants play. They just can't close it out. If it was. If it was only seven or below the seven, I would probably consider taking the Patriots. But at seven and a half, I'm gonna take the Giants. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Oh, nice, Aaron. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it's an interesting number. I mean the Giants, I don't know if Jackson dark looks like he. I saw. I just saw he's taking for concussion. Patriots just lost their starting tackle, the rookie out of. I believe it's lsu. So their offensive line is going to be a bit banged up. But the Patriots just had their worst game of the season against Cincinnati. Before that, I mean they were just rolling through people of eight games in a row. I'm going to side with the Patriots here at home. Minus seven and a half. Tough place to play in Foxborough. I think Mike Vraper will have them up ready for this one. So give me the Pats. Minus seven and a half at home Monday night. [00:38:18] Speaker C: Seem to have an emergency at the Rome studio right now. [00:38:23] Speaker A: When he spills something that or Westbrook. [00:38:26] Speaker C: Made an accident or don't know what don't happen. [00:38:29] Speaker B: All right, so what happened? [00:38:31] Speaker C: We don't know what happened to you. What happened? I mean the, the impossible burger, like decided to grow legs or something over there. I'm not sure. [00:38:39] Speaker B: No, it's impossibly my stomach up. But no, my, my battery's about to die. It's been tanking on this podcast. I don't know why. Faster than usual. [00:38:50] Speaker A: So I'm taking. I'm taking the paths room. [00:38:53] Speaker B: You're taking the paths? [00:38:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Minus seven and a half? [00:38:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:57] Speaker B: Oh, that's a crazy line, man. Because Giants have been in a lot of these games, but they still managed to lose right above or below that seven. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Marcus fired. They just fired their defensive coordinator. So again, I don't know who's going to be calling plays for them this week. [00:39:15] Speaker B: Well, it can't be any worse than what they were doing. Now I'm going to take the Giants with this one. Seven points. Hell yeah. Nah, Giants vibes are good. It's a fun team. This is going to be a great job. Whoever wins this one and they'll have a resurgence in New York pretty soon. Don't worry about it. Giants fans the next era is coming. It's happening right now. It's a fun team. Just like the way it was right before Eli Manning took over. They had a lot of talent. They just didn't have a stable quarterback. Similar vibes here. They're just missing that old man coach to lead the way. You don't need a fancy offensive coordinator to take over everything. You just need someone solid here. We'll see what happens. Does Bill belichick ditch his 24 year old girlfriend, the social media manager that's potentially losing his life, to go back to the big leagues? [00:40:10] Speaker A: Why would you want Bill Belichick, North Carolina in the acc? [00:40:14] Speaker B: Well, college football's hard. It's hard, dude. It's hard to go back to school. Have you gone back to school? All right, case closed. [00:40:23] Speaker A: I mean, if you pay me 10 million, I'll go back to school. [00:40:26] Speaker B: I would love to get paid 10 million to go back to school, dude. Yeah, you can join like the other guys that are playing college basketball. They're like in their like 37, 38. Do with nil deals. [00:40:36] Speaker A: Do it. Let's make, let's make it happen. I could sit there in the corner and shoot threes. [00:40:41] Speaker B: I can shoot threes. [00:40:42] Speaker A: I could play zone defense all day, man, at the top of the key. [00:40:44] Speaker B: I can't play any defense right now, not with my knee. I can't go left or right. All right, so that's all the games there for turkey weekend. Lots of stuff Friday, Sunday and at least just one Monday night game. That Monday night game should be a lot of fun though. I think that's gonna be a really fun one. [00:41:04] Speaker A: Well, we got, we got Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We got, we got five days of football, some good games. NFL and college. [00:41:11] Speaker B: I'm glad there's no football or NFL games on Saturday. At least that's, that's nice. [00:41:16] Speaker A: That's coming up though, Rome. [00:41:18] Speaker B: I, I, I and I, and I don't like it. Yeah. How you guys feeling about this weekend? [00:41:24] Speaker C: Big slated games, rivalry in college and then obviously a few rivalries in the NFL. And I think we'll start the playoff picture starting to take shape here a little bit. Some big games. [00:41:35] Speaker B: It's trying to take shape. I've been keeping track of all the games that were unanimous decisions here. We have a winning record so far the last few weeks, about 57%. So we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. If, if history holds true, we will be 4 and 2 or 3 and 3 this week. So we will see what happens. We'll See if Jason extends his lead, his three week stretch of coming back from behind and we'll see. Me and Eric can break a back to back week. Ty, same records here. I have no idea, no idea about these games. I know typically though, like these Turkey Day games, they. They tend to go the opposite here. And everyone's always surprised that the better team does not win, but it's just. It's just always like that. I think last year might have been the best Turkey Day we've had in a long time. Big games, though, a lot of big games. More than usual. We usually have like one team, one good team, and everyone's just playing football because it's Thursday. But I don't know, we'll see how it goes. I'm actually optimistic this year. Any final thoughts? [00:42:54] Speaker A: Nope, I'm good. [00:42:56] Speaker B: Okay, cool. I have nothing else too. I don't think so. Yeah, nothing. I'm just seeing highlights of Michigan and Ohio State fights. So that's on Instagram right now. You guys remember playing the flag last year? Got lots of noise. Lots of noise. [00:43:16] Speaker A: I think it's gonna be a topic again this weekend. [00:43:21] Speaker B: All right, so that'll do it for NFL lines. Week 13. Catch our college football games of the week as well for week 14. Rivalry Wreak on Rivalry Week on YouTube, Spotify and Apple podcasts and new power rankings go out. I just realized, what are these power rankings? [00:43:44] Speaker A: Rome, I heard the Bears you teased their number eight. [00:43:47] Speaker B: They did not get posted, I guess. I guess got stuck in drafts, which I've been having an issue with with some of the posts here. Hoping someone can take over this stuff eventually, but power rankings. My phone's about to die. Laptop's about to die. Everything's about to die. It's apocalypse here. All right, so updated rankings for this week. I'll post right now when we get offline here, but Bears make their first appearance ever on the pod at number eight. I just felt like doing it over other options here, including the packers, basically based on record and close wins. The 49ers, which I like, but, you know, last win wasn't as impressive. And a few other contenders, like in between, like the 9 and 12 ranking, it's. It's pretty clustered there. But the Bears went over the Steelers actually put them on the top for me. Lions are at number seven, so they have a slight drop in the rankings. Broncos are at number six. I did not lift them any higher. It was a bye week, but I just felt like every other team above them is just better. Even despite records so Colts are number five. They have a three ranking drop. Seahawks are at number four, Eagles drop down to number three, Patriots rise at number two and Rams stay at number one. Rams, Pats, Eagles, Seahawks, Colts, Broncos, Lions and the Bears for this week's Power 8. [00:45:26] Speaker A: Interesting. I mean, I'd be curious our Rome of the teams that have jumped into the power ranking, what are their record that week? Because it does not seem very good. Teams that have jumped to 7 and 8 winning, they don't last long. [00:45:41] Speaker B: Well, you know, Lions have jumped back in and they've been, you know, eight. [00:45:46] Speaker A: I don't think you have ever had them out them. I know that. I know the Chargers snuck in at 8. They got blown out at Jacksonville. I forget who snuck in at 8 last week, but I believe they took an L as well. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Well, to be fair, Rams were at number 8 in week 6, 49ers were number 7 at week 6. Then. Then it was the Eagles and Seahawks. Then it was Patriots, Niners, then Niners got kicked off. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Is that when they lost to the Eagles when you snuck them back in? [00:46:22] Speaker B: Packers lost, but Seahawks climbed up. Then Patriots, Broncos and then Broncos stayed in, but someone else got kicked off. And then it was Chargers. Chargers got kicked off again. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Yeah, we know Bills, they've dropped kicked. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Off a little bit. So they. They finally got kicked off. And Lions maintain. You're right. Lions have always stayed at least in the top eight. They've been, I think every number on here now, now I now look at it. But yeah, we will see. There's no like real curse here. It just happens to be like. It's just kind of tough, you know. [00:46:59] Speaker A: Like, I. I don't know. I've noticed it. I've noticed a trend over the last couple weeks. Who's ever jumped in at 8 has gotten beat the that week. So I, I don't know if you were doing that on purpose to get Jason's Bears and l already really believe they're in your top eight. I don't know, bro. I guess we'll find out. [00:47:16] Speaker B: Week one was Bengals commanders and they. And. And commanders. [00:47:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, week one, let's not. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Even talk about that. [00:47:22] Speaker A: I don't think you should even do a top eight till after the first month of the season next year. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Rome, like you got anything. We should consider losses in week one in college football either, but that's just the way it is. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Let's not consider rivalry games losses then, right? Come on. [00:47:33] Speaker B: Oh, come on. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Come on. [00:47:35] Speaker B: You just can't have rules break up rules other Rules. [00:47:37] Speaker A: You shouldn't come out. That's like, the top 25, right? They say they shouldn't have a top 25. The preseason in college football because you don't know. [00:47:44] Speaker B: They really should. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Like, Data Rome's power eight shouldn't come out till, like, week five. [00:47:49] Speaker B: I know. I, I, I've been taking a peek at other, other people's power rate. It differs a little bit, but I think only ESPN really has, like, the Chiefs in, like, their top eight. I can't really remember. I don't do rankings and jump teams by, like, 10 rankings after one win. I'm sorry, I can't do that. That's ridiculous. But no, Bears deserve it. I, you know, if you're looking at, you know, the totality and work, I think there's, like, a lot of merit there to be number eight. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. [00:48:19] Speaker B: Congrats, Jason. [00:48:21] Speaker C: Thanks. [00:48:24] Speaker A: This guy looks really excited. [00:48:26] Speaker C: It's like five minutes and nothing going over your power rankings of crap. So just whatever. [00:48:30] Speaker B: Yeah, solid power rankings. [00:48:33] Speaker C: Joe Solids. Put him in there. He's got the Bears at 8 because he wants the Bears to lose because he beat his sealers. He's all butt hurt putting his DVOA stats out there, whatever it might be. But you know what? Okay, cool. We're number eight. [00:48:44] Speaker B: It's fine. [00:48:45] Speaker A: Sounds about right. [00:48:47] Speaker B: I love this stuff. This is good stuff, guys. [00:48:50] Speaker A: Good. [00:48:52] Speaker B: We will see how these rankings come out. Good luck to us on the college football stuff. This might be the worst week to play college football, Bets. [00:49:03] Speaker A: It's actually a really good week. [00:49:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel good about it. [00:49:07] Speaker C: Yeah, we'll see what your three games are room. You get till noon on Friday, so start looking at it now. [00:49:12] Speaker B: I will. [00:49:15] Speaker A: I'm already taking Michigan Rome, so I. [00:49:18] Speaker B: I actually don't like that pick. Okay. [00:49:21] Speaker A: I, that makes me like it even more then. [00:49:23] Speaker B: Come on, dude. Tripping. I'll look at the stats. I'll, I'll get a chance to dig into the stats tomorrow, but. All right, I guess I'll do it then. Any other comments for the week or. No, we're good. We're good to go. [00:49:37] Speaker C: We're good to go. [00:49:38] Speaker B: We'll like coming back. [00:49:40] Speaker A: I guess be coming back Sunday. We coming back Monday. What are you leaning towards? Rome? [00:49:44] Speaker B: Lean towards Sunday. [00:49:46] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Lean towards Sunday. We can recap the F1 college football, NFL, all that good stuff. And I'm kind of ready to talk a little basketball. I finally saw Lakers play last night against the Clippers, which it was kind of ugly. For the first half, to be honest with you, it was like a lot of scoring. But to see Reeves and Doncic and James play together. Holy, they look good. Like there's like moments I'm like, oh man, this is. If they can just play a little defense, I don't know, we'll see they have a puncher's chance. I'm liking it. I'm liking it, man. 99 points from them three. It's, it's. I can't believe Reed's that good. I can't believe it flow to seemingly fast. [00:50:42] Speaker A: He's good in non meaningful regular season games Rome. But when the playoffs come due to, he always is. [00:50:50] Speaker B: He's still in his career. No one has shown up until year seven. So that, that, that's all, that's all talk from someone that looks like Reeves when they play. You know me. [00:51:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess I'll take that as a compliment. Yeah, yeah. [00:51:03] Speaker B: But you're slow, but you can shoot a three. You're deceptively elusive, you know, when you play basketball, man. [00:51:10] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah. [00:51:11] Speaker B: I don't know why you hate on Reeves. It's kind of like your game. [00:51:14] Speaker A: I, I like, I like Reeves. I just think people are hyping them up to be the next great white hype here. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Every white hype's a great white hype. [00:51:23] Speaker A: It doesn't really pan out. [00:51:25] Speaker B: All right. No, Lakers look good though. It was nice. Clippers look like it makes me happy. You hear that? That clip with, with Kawhi Leonard, like what can the Clippers do to make it better? [00:51:37] Speaker A: Get some money back from circumventing the cap. [00:51:40] Speaker B: You said it. Get some talent. Yeah, we need to get more talent. And then everyone on Twitter and like accidents. You are the talent, bro. You were the talent. But you miss out on every game. But. All right, cool. I'm looking forward to recapping though. Should be pretty fun. You guys got any big plans for turkey day? [00:51:59] Speaker C: Nope. Watching football. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Watching football. [00:52:03] Speaker A: Are you? [00:52:04] Speaker B: No in laws this year? [00:52:06] Speaker C: Yeah, that's why I said nope. Watching football. [00:52:08] Speaker B: Aaron's at his parents house. [00:52:11] Speaker A: Where are you going? Rome. [00:52:12] Speaker B: I might go to my sister's but you know, listen to her husband and her for three hours and, and watch a little nephews just act like little shits, you know, and I'm just gonna be missing my daughter because she's with her pain the ass mother who does, who doesn't think like, you know, she should see me for things, you know, just all that stuff. I don't know. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna try to chill out and just watch football and just, you know, vibe out. I'll do a lot of college football research to kind of keep my mind distracted, that's for sure. [00:52:41] Speaker A: There you go, Rome. [00:52:43] Speaker B: All right, cool. Well, happy Thanksgiving, everybody, and catch us on Sunday night then on the recap.

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