Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: What's up everybody? This is Rome. We got Aaron, Jason, this is sources from the sofa. We're going to recap week five in the NFL.
Pretty fun week. We have a hell of a Monday night game. It was a lot better than what I thought it'd be and I was cheering a lot, mainly because me and you, Aaron, I, I thought, you know, it was a lot more on the line, but we both had the jacks, the points. Jason took KC to cover and it was pretty exhilarating. We had like a lot of games come down to the wire this past week. And other than that though, like some weird stuff. We'll kind of recap everything. But first, what you guys think of this Monday night game, all things considered.
[00:00:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a kind of a back and forth, but back and forth and extremes. You had Casey with a 14 nothing lead to start off the game. The Jags turning the ball over at the one yard line.
And then Jags come storming back, tie the game. Mahomes driving, throws an interception at the one line. Himself taken back for a pick.
[00:01:03] Speaker B: That was crazy. That was nice, dude. That guy backed off and then. Yeah, just read it. It was nice.
[00:01:09] Speaker C: Yeah, it was great play. And then, and then Chiefs do nothing with it. Punt it gave it back to the Jags. Trevor Lawrence throws interception. Although probably one of the worst calls of the game, I think that's the moment where Rome probably jumps up and starts talking about the officiating bias with Kansas City. That's maybe when Roger Goodell, you know, made the call down to the field. We need this game to be a little more competitive. So Kansas City gets a gift interception of some pass interference that wasn't called. Seems like Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were, were agreeing with that assessment with the rules official too on the Monday night broadcast, but gave Kansas City an easy tying touchdown. And you know, then it was 21, 21. And you know, I think it was a whole, it was a ball game. So I think a really good Monday night game. I think this Jaguars team surprising a lot of people. I know. Maybe not Aaron. Aaron, big Liam Cohen guy at the beginning of the season.
Newbie's team improvement in the Jags over the Doug Peterson led team of the past couple years.
But yeah, it came down to the wire there at the end. I thought, I thought for a second I had you guys. I thought, I was like, Kansas City's gonna march down. But then, you know, I was like, ah, in the modern NFL you can't score too soon. And you Leave them, you know, over a minute left with a couple timeouts, you're leaving all the time in the world. And Trevor Lawrence, two huge throws. I mean those are just massive throws. One to Brian Thomas Jr. Really haven't seen as much him in his sophomore season, but huge catch down the sideline. And the Denami Brown, you know, great out route, getting it down within, within the 10 yard line. So I think Trevor Lawrence came up big because of the first two plays. I don't think we're looking very good. I think it was going to be over pretty quick. But yeah, everything comes down to, down to a last drive with less than a minute left.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: It seems in the NFL Trevor Lawrence led in rushing. So three touchdowns total, one passing, two rushing, 54 yards.
Kind of weird every time a quarterback is leading the team in rushing. But then you, you see KC Pat Mahomes every game I think this year so far, except for the last one, maybe he's also led the teams in rushing. Not a good sign. Now they're sitting at what, two and three. I was starting to get scared because Chargers, they started really fast out the gate. They have a big lead and if, if Casey would have won, you'd have had three teams, three and two that have been like really crazy for the AFC West.
Jacks now four and one looking pretty, pretty. Aaron, how are you liking your little Cohen led team?
[00:03:37] Speaker A: As Jason mentioned, man, loving it, man. My guy, Liam Cohen, man, getting it done there. You know, he's doing big things with Tampa and Baker. Now he comes over to Trevor Lawrence, who Rome basically called a bottom feeder in the NFL. I said he's, you know, one of the top 15 quarterbacks. You get him a decent coach and you're seeing, you're seeing the results. I mean, this defense stepped up, made some plays when they needed to. Down there on the goal line, getting that interception, what 99 yard return there by Lloyd. That was a big. I was screaming turning Point.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: I was excited.
[00:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah, but you had a lot going on. I mean, Trevor Lawrence, you know, fumbling on the goal line depending on your perspective. I thought it was a touchdown based off the camera angles I had. It was a fourth and goal. So you got to go for it regardless if you get in or not. It's a turnover on downs if not Kansas City officiating. Jason mentioned the PI in the inter PI should have been called on the interception. They also had the PI in the opening drive. Touchdown. That should have been called when they ran a pick play to get Kelsey open.
So obviously the Officials like Jason mentioned Godell made the call and wanted to get these guys back above.500. But, hey, Duvall county, they weren't having it tonight. Duvall and the Jags take care of the KC Chiefs here on Monday night. 3128 in a. In a brilliant game. It was a really good game, all right.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: Like, I wasn't even going to watch it, but I was watching mainly baseball tonight, which the playoffs have been phenomenal, Phenomenal for. For Major league. Maybe we'll talk about that later on. But I was watching mainly because I thought me and you, Jason, we had, like, the same record tied. I was like, okay, if Casey wins, you got the. The best record of the. You know, or the best week, rather, of the year so far. If I win, I do. And then I. I actually had a game missing from. From Aaron, so I actually had him a lot worse first time. We've all been above.500, so it's. Overall, although the games are pretty weird and we've had different sides on each one.
Pretty good week, I guess, for different reasons.
[00:05:31] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. I think when we were picking the games, it just felt a little different where we were going with some sides, some. Some big lines. But I, you know, those morning games, just.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: Just.
[00:05:41] Speaker C: It was blowout city for like, what, four of those games or something like that? And then just total, I think, chaos, you know, air out. The Tennessee game, we were all in Tennessee, and there was.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: We all took Tennessee, huh?
I thought somebody would have taken Arizona.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: But, I mean, yeah, we all took Tennessee.
[00:06:01] Speaker C: There was. There were some games when we had a consensus. Like, I. I thought the Chargers broke that streak, but we were consensus. Vikings won that. We were consensus. Denver won that. We were consensus Tennessee and won that. So really, the. We were three out of four in consensus because the Chargers are the only one that kind of let us down. So going into that Chargers game, like, man, we're. If we agree on it, that should be the lock for everyone at home, is like, hey, when we're consensus across the board, that's who you bet.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: You guys talked in that Chargers one. Because I. I like Daniels. And I was thinking, like, I don't know, man. Like, I know he hasn't been playing. I know they got injuries. But Daniel's like, you got to figure, like, this might be like a trap game, but there he had one against the Giants, right? So you got to figure with, like, hardball, they're not gonna have back to back. But, dude, they did not show up on that one at all.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: It's a weird game. The Chargers showed up big time. Really. They were up 10 0, about to go up what, 17 0. Then you got Q of that fumble. Then two guys on the Chargers offensive line went out and it just, it just tumbled downhill, went down. They just, they just got punished. From basically mid second quarter on, you had that roughing the punter that neglected the lad McConkey punt return touchdown. So just huge momentum shifts in that game. And the Chargers just banged up as they were, weren't able to regroup and Daniels and then. And the commanders got hot.
[00:07:19] Speaker B: You know, it's one that was pretty crazy with Saints, Giants. I thought Giants dominated that whole game. But turnovers, costly turnovers completely killed them. They should have won by a touchdown, if not more. And that totally like defeated it. But Saints did everything and beyond to get their first victory of the year. That was pretty impressive.
[00:07:38] Speaker C: That was the game we talked about if the Saints are going to win a game this year, this is where it came to. And I, you know, didn't see the same thing out of, out of Jackson Dart in this start. I don't think you got it. You know, he had two, two interceptions in the game, the running game. You know, again you talked about quarterbacks running. You had scatter boo at 15 attempts for only 59 yards. But Jackson Dart also had 55 yards himself. So a lot, a lot going on there. It was, it was, it was a weird game because you felt like, to your point, Rome, you felt like this was a game that the Giants should have had early, but they came out second half and it was like nothing offensively that they can do. And I don't know, I think we talked a little bit like New Orleans a little weird place to play sometimes. Just like, you know, you watch it on tv, lighting looks a little weird. You know, fans are rowdy down there.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: In New Orleans and it feels a little dark.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: Man, it feels like Halloween all the time down there, don't it?
[00:08:31] Speaker C: It does, does. It's. It's a different, Something's different about the broadcast when you watch a Saints game. And so.
But yeah, it's still shocking to me. I think just looking at how bad the Saints were reverse or I'm sorry, the Giants reverse of the Saints team that they beat the Chargers the week prior. I think that's the game. I, I give me the west to east coast stuff, but man, it's just this Giants team just looks so bad.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: I didn't think they looked that bad. It was those turnovers that really put that whole script on.
[00:08:57] Speaker C: That's the key of looking bad. You turn the ball up.
[00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, look, There was what, 1914. They were getting ready to score. Scatter boot five fumbles. It gets returned, what, 80 yards for a touchdown. That was like crazy. That was a turning point in the game. Yeah, but I mean, going in, we said that the Saints were likely. They're going to get a win. Get a win here. Giants perfect spot, emotional win without their best player neighbors going into a place like New Orleans, who's been competitive at least at home.
It was definitely the right spot to take the Saints there.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: Let's start from the beginning. I guess we started like on Thursday. Four niners pulled out the win when we were recording the lines that night, which this week, man, totally ruined my, my, my power rankings. Like, I don't know what to do. I have so much movement going on in there.
Vikings impressive. Coming back from behind. I thought they were going to lose that. We barely made. Made it out with that one. Guys so happy. I was cheering.
I don't know. Did you guys wake up for the F1 race as well?
[00:09:57] Speaker C: 100, man. You had a 5am start time with Singapore Grand Prix, right?
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Quiet.
[00:10:01] Speaker C: Right? Well, you know, I just didn't want to, you know, didn't want to wake.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: 4:45Am Wake up, Rome. We already know you're not up, so we're not going to bug you.
Let you watch the highlights.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: I already watched the whole thing.
[00:10:13] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: All right. So most impressive or what are the closest games?
[00:10:20] Speaker A: I guess the first one you mentioned just right now. Vikings, Browns.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Vikings, Browns, Dolphins, Panthers.
[00:10:28] Speaker A: Broncos, Eagles.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: Broncos, Eagles.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: There's a lot of close games in the app.
[00:10:31] Speaker B: Well, I feel like the Eagles.
I don't know what happened, man. They kind of went away from like their running game. They started passing more like Brown or their tight end. They have both had like, what, like a plus targets total.
And then the Broncos just kind of snuck around like.
And I just won.
It was a pretty impressive win on that one. But we did have the winning or at least we had the points. So did you like that winner?
[00:10:57] Speaker A: I did say the Broncos would win that game outright, Rome.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: You did? Yeah.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: So they would end. That hurts win streak. So, yeah, give one up for my boy Nixon. Peyton getting the job done. Afc, AFC west champs coming. Denver Broncos, man.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: AFC west champs now. Now you're back on.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: I told you I had them winning the preseason. I might as well jump on why they're hot right now. All right.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: Okay.
So Chargers like you're not liking like the back to back losses Commanders.
[00:11:26] Speaker A: Well when you're about what three of your top five offensive linemen tough man. I mean what they. I think Herbert's been pressured the most of any quarterback here in the last three weeks. I mean we talked about it. Jason mentioned, you know, CJ Stroud, you know, struggling. Well when you're getting pressured on 45, 50% of all your drop back passes, you're going to struggle in this league. We've seen it before with Mahomes. People ask sometimes when he's struggling. Well you got banged up offensive lineman and no weapons trouble. Trouble's coming man. So we'll see. Chargers got a big game traveling back to the east, going to Miami and then my boy Steichen comes in for a matchup there of the Colts. So Chargers got some big matchups coming up here before, you know, before maybe they get healthy again on the offensive line.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: That's so crazy man.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: Hampton on the IR too.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they just put on today. It's so crazy man. They were talking the town three zero all in the division, having a big lead and then can they drop one in New York, then they drop another one at home and now it's like dude, this division's pretty tight. It's gonna be a battle throughout the whole year out of the morning games. I think the most impressive win for me was, was the Colts. They just dominated every facet.
Taylor the running back, it's got to be leading like MVP conversations and Colts to me at least they're winning the close games and they're also beating the shit out of the teams that they should be be beating the out of. It's basically like the recipe for I'm gonna say this, a possible super bowl contender. I really like them man. I really like them and I think they're like gonna be vying for a top three seed in the AFC now.
I know it's just the lowly Raiders, Geno Smith looking terrible. We, we've been kind of dogging them all, all year long. Ashton Genty, they kind of got him going a little bit, rushing him and, and catching but not much else. They look pretty bad. Geno Smith, I think he has like what, nine interceptions down the first five games.
It's just bad.
[00:13:24] Speaker C: Yeah, there's something definitely with Gino. I kind of last week against the Bears I thought it was maybe a one off but you mentioned at nine interceptions only five games into the season, everything just kind of looks lost there. The amount of balls batted down at the line of scrimmage too, isn't boding well. I just, I don't know if whatever. Whatever it is in the offense, it should be an offense that's clicking for him being under Pete Carroll for all those years he was under Seattle.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Well, they got Kelly too. Chip Kelly.
[00:13:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
And just, I mean, just doesn't seem to be working. I think overall, like, you know, they have, they have some talent with genty and you know, but wide receiver wise, not exactly like the best wide receiving core out there.
Offensive line average to below average.
For the Raiders, you know, they got some good pieces on defense, but I think there's still a lot there. But I think you're right. I think for the Colts to blow them out the way they did, they're really making a mark in the AFC in a, in a division that's generally pretty winnable. But now, you know, you got some. Get some teams with some good records there. Now you got the Jags winning tonight. They're also 4 and 1 with the Colts, I think the Texans, you know, 2 and 3, but they had a. They had a huge wind and maybe they're finding something. I still think there's some questions on their offensive line.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: Good win.
[00:14:37] Speaker C: Talked about straw.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought that was a good needed win.
[00:14:39] Speaker C: Oh, huge, huge needed win. So. But yeah, I think you're right. It continues to be impressive with the Colts overall and Aaron's guy Steichen, man, he's. He's got something going there. And it just for them to blow out the Raiders that they did and the amount of points they've put up so far this year, I think has just been impressive. And I think are they number one.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: Or number two as far as scoring. Scoring behind Dallas or. Or they ahead of Dallas?
[00:15:04] Speaker C: Dallas. They're ahead of Dallas. The, the Lions actually are the highest scoring team.
Lions, okay, 174. But I mean in combination with the Colts, it's like offense, you know, for how much they're scoring. But defensively is, you know, they put the clamp down on theirs. I mean, they have the highest differential if you're looking at. In the league though, at a plus 74, you know, so, you know, a couple blowouts help here and there's.
But, you know, winnable, winnable games and winnable schedule and a winnable division generally. And the Daniel Jones thing, and I want to bring this to the Giants, Daniel Jones success, I think continues to be an indictment to the New York Giants team because, you know, you look at the two pieces, they've Gotten rid of in the, in years where you get rid of Saquon, wins a Super bowl, top, you know, one of the top rushers in the league. You get rid of Daniel Jones now he's leading this team, you know, offensively, you know, you start looking back in an organization at that point, and I think that's the, that's the bigger loser out of this. The success of the Colts right now is going to be the entire Giants, you know, football operations, leadership.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: Aaron?
[00:16:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, Rome, I mean, the Colts, they're looking good, right? I mean, they've come out here four and one you guys mentioned. But here's the thing. The bad teams, they're blowing them out. They blew out Miami, blew out Tennessee, and they just blew out the Raiders. The good teams, they played them all well, right? I mean, Broncos came down on the wire, came down to that field goal, stupid penalty by Denver, cost him the game. The Rams, they were, they had the Rams beat. You get that fumble there on the wide receiver by Mitchell or it slips out at the goal line. Who knows what happens there, right? Maybe they win that game. Maybe they're 5, 0, 4 and 1. Whatever. I think 4 and 1 is indicative where they're at. I mean, Jacksonville's playing really good.
Houston, you guys mentioned, got back to back wins.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: I think I'm more impressed with Jacksonville right now being four on one.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: It's hard to say because Jacksonville's. Jacksonville's been here, I mean, what, two years ago they were in the playoffs in the, what, divisional round when they got beat by the Chiefs.
I mean, we've seen talent there with Trevor Lawrence, we just. He needed that next coach. I think Liam Cohen's that guy. Like Steichen's been there. You give him a good, you give him a quarterback. We saw what he did with Herbert his rookie year. He turned Jalen Hurst into an mvp. Then he just, you know, Richardson's just a lost cause. I mean, that guy couldn't hit a, you know, burning building if it was on fire from 10ft away. He just can't throw over the dam. And now you give him Daniel Jones, who's, you know, good arm, accurate, but smart, but mobile. And he's running the offense really well. But yeah, Jason mentioned that defense, defense is getting stops or forcing turnovers. They're playing aggressive. I mean, that was a good hire in the off seasons, bringing in Luanna Maruma. So they are right now, I think the team in the AFC that, you know, you got to keep an eye on because they are, they're blowing people out.
You know, they're probably at least top two or three teams in the AFC for sure right now.
[00:17:57] Speaker B: Who is?
[00:17:58] Speaker A: The Colts.
[00:17:59] Speaker C: Colts.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: The Colts. Wow.
[00:18:01] Speaker C: I, I would say I put them at number two, to be honest with you. I think, I think the Bills are still the class of the afc, you know, with, with, you know, you know, withstanding the, the Sunday loss, but.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Tough loss.
[00:18:12] Speaker C: Tough loss. But I think overall the Bills, the success is going to be judged on what they do in January, not what they do right now. You know, now do I think they probably need to win throughout the year to get home field advantage. I think that's, that, that's the fairy tale story. I think they want to. Do they want to close, you know, that stadium on a win, AFC Championship game in the, you know, middle of January in the, in the cold. But the Colts overall, I think second best team behind them. There's probably an argument to be made that they're the best. But given where the Chargers have fallen off the past couple weeks, the slow start to the Broncos, I think the Jags, to your point, Rome, are impressive.
I think the Niners win was pretty good, but I think they've been a little, they've been a little fortunate if you look at the Jag schedule a little bit, you know, throughout the year of, you know, who they've played so far, you know, Bengals. That first game that had like the weather, the goofy weather delay and everything like that. They lose to the Bengals even though Joe Burrow went out, you know, partly through that game, but still lost. They beat a Texans team, you know, not a great offensive line, and then they get a Niners team.
Pretty but hurt. I think this Chiefs win is probably their biggest win of the year right now. I think this is their statement. They'll have enough. Another tough game next week against the Seahawks, but I think the Jag Jag's definitely in the conversation because we talked preseason on hey, AFC north getting three teams in, well, that's, that's gone. That ship has sailed. They ain't getting three teams in.
And, and now, you know, Chargers, Broncos, Chiefs could be interesting. I mean, you could get a pretty equal distribution between the divisions of just like one or two teams. So the division's not getting in with how bad Baltimore's been. Cincinnati hasn't looked great.
There's, there's definitely some, there's going to be a lot going for those fifth, six and seven seeds.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: Yeah, Jags being four and one, that's definitely going to be fun to watch. And then see how far the Texans can come along. Two back to back wins, Jags, two really big wins against Niners and now against KC Steelers. This looks good for them. They had a buy. Right.
So nothing going on there. Chargers, Broncos, I think that might end up being like a two man horse race. And then Bills, I still think they're the class of afc but honestly like they haven't really played a great game besides that first game. Come from behind victory over the Ravens. But now that's not looking so great.
Pats all around, really good game, really good play calling. And Vrabel, man, that was like kind of like a signature, like a nice early this season signature win. A lot of people talking about that now. Drake may came in clutch in the fourth quarter and that's might be like for my running and like game of the week maybe. Big victory of the week.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a huge win room. I mean you mentioned, I mean Buffalo really missed a golden opportunity to really put a stranglehold on that. Yeah, I mean they win that game, they go up three games in the division. You got the Jets 0 and 5, Dolphins 1 and 4. The Patriots would have been 2 and 3. They would have been 5 and 0. Basically on cruise control.
But Patriots went in there. Drake made great games. Stefan Diggs showed up, he balled out, he was ready, motivated for game.
[00:21:29] Speaker B: He killed it.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: What do you have? I think 146 yards receiving, 108 in the second half. Yeah, but to your point, Rome, I mean how good is Buffalo? All their wins are against 05 Jets, 1 in 4 Dolphins, what? 1 in 4 Ravens, so. And the 1 in 4 Saints.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not impressive.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: This defense is not good. That's why I don't really think they can get to the super bowl and win it. I mean to Jason's point, if they get a home game, they're going to be tough to beat. Josh Allen is great, he's, you know, he's the MVP for a reason. But this defense can't stop really anybody in really big moments. The secondary is not great.
We talk about the Colts and Jags and Buffalo. Those are the three teams right now that are four and one in the afc. I think for Buffalo, if they're going to get to the super bowl, to Jason's point, they have to have home field. I don't think this defense is good enough to go on the road without the benefit of the crowd and beat a team like a Denver, maybe the Colts in that AFC championship game if that's how it shapes out the way these, this first five weeks have gone.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: You know, it's so weird. It's like all the top teams, right? It's just like in college football, right? This past week, what, three or four of the top five teams in the preseason are now not even ranked same thing in the NFL. They're not like out of it. It's just they haven't had like any impressive wins. Eagles have been scraping by, Bills have been scraping by, Ravens now possibly season of hell.
Chargers now going through the adversity. No one's like really dominating. The only one that's like looking like pretty dominant so far after week one has been the Detroit Lions.
[00:23:02] Speaker C: Yeah, you could say that. I. It's tough to say.
I mean, they've played who a hurt Bengals team, a Browns team, a beat up Ravens team, You know, so I think you can say that about any team if you're going through the resume. You know, no one was saying about Baltimore in Week 1 versus the Bills, and Baltimore is just wrecked on defense for, for injuries and stuff like that. So I think it changes the NFL and like college, like these teams are a lot closer than we all kind of want to think on here. Like college. There's massive discrepancies in talent week to week where the NFL, like even your worst team, you know, can show up on, on a Sunday. And, and the talent levels are kind of there.
[00:23:41] Speaker B: So it happened in college too, man. Look at my UCLA Bruins, baby.
[00:23:45] Speaker C: It's fair. But I mean, they beat a coach who can't beat anybody. So, you know, you know, but we can get to that a little later.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: He can't beat top five.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: I mean, talking. Well, UCLA's talent is not as bad as the 014 record is.
[00:23:58] Speaker B: No, should be.
[00:24:00] Speaker C: And you only want to talk about UCLA because you don't want to talk about Texas, but we'll get to that a little.
[00:24:03] Speaker B: We'll talk about that text message thread.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Where he abandoned Texas.
[00:24:08] Speaker C: I thought I, I thought we were banned from the podcast. If we mentioned Texas, wasn't that the thing?
Are we banned out? Are you shutting the pod down now? Because we're talking about it, but you know, we can get that to a little later.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: No, you know what?
And I will bookmark this. I like you don't want to give the lines enough credit. I totally get it.
That's okay.
[00:24:28] Speaker C: No, it's fine. They've been, they've been impressive. But to say out of the 401 out of the four and one teams, I think there's some, there's some week to week variables in the NFL that are just there. They've been, they've been great. They have looked, they've looked really good against as a couple of opponents.
I, I think some teams are gonna have surprise. The Chiefs, for that matter, even though they lost tonight, the division coming back to them. We were talking about the Chargers running away with this thing at a certain point and the Chiefs not having a win two and three. You know, there's still just a game out. I think there's a lot of different, different, different tests the teams are going to have in the month of October. They're going to have a lot of proving ground. You mentioned the Bills.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Well, I think they get some guys coming back. Right, like after week eight.
[00:25:05] Speaker C: Yeah, you'll have that.
[00:25:06] Speaker B: Rice comes back after week seven, weeks after week six.
Don't they have a buy after that?
[00:25:12] Speaker A: He's back for the seventh game, so.
[00:25:13] Speaker C: But there'll be some tests for all these team. You know, Buffalo schedules tightens up, you know, a little bit. The Jags got some, some games that'll, that'll happen, you know. You know, some of these teams may get some, you know, people back and, you know, some fortunes flipped here in the second half, but I think there's some good snap judgments to, to make. But I think there's some prizes. You know, Baltimore being probably the most obvious because this team was supposed to be competing for a Super bowl and they have been just dreadful, but they're, they're just wrecked with injuries. I think I forgot they got like 100, like $30 million of their cap. That was.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: They got seven, they got seven Pro Bowlers out.
[00:25:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:49] Speaker C: So you talk about getting blown out. Like, that's the, you know, when the.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: Texans can drop 44 on you, you know, you got trouble. Let's just put it that way.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: Dude, they haven't scored at all this year, right?
[00:26:00] Speaker A: No, I don't think they scored 20 points or more in a game before last week against the Titans.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: So we had some pretty bad losses this week, guys.
I'm looking at the Titans and Cardinals.
[00:26:11] Speaker C: I was waiting to talk about it because I don't know what you got these awards and nominees or something. I don't want. You want to make something up? I mean, this is, I mean, not to be like prisoner of the moment. This is like a top five worst loss of all time.
Top three, maybe. I don't know. It might be the worst loss of all time. It's. It ranks up there for the Cardinals on the Monday night game against the Bears. And I don't want to bring the Bears into every conversation, but it's. It's the famous Dennis Green game where they.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: I gotta say, this one's worse. This one's got to be worse. I think it's worse. The stuff that happened here is something you'd see at a circus.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: Oh, so I was, I was cheering because, like, I'm like, did he drop the ball before he crossed the, the goal line? Because that would have totally killed our chance of even hitting the spread 7. Like it would have been over.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: It was dead. It was dead.
[00:26:57] Speaker B: And that kind of changed everything.
Everything that did change everything.
[00:27:02] Speaker C: It's the most mind boggling thing in, in foot sports and football.
[00:27:06] Speaker B: How does it keep on happening?
[00:27:07] Speaker C: How many times this has happened over the last, like, you know, I don't know, it was the 90s. Like Leon let. Or something, you know, did that.
[00:27:15] Speaker A: But he got the ball hit out of his hand, right?
[00:27:17] Speaker C: Yeah, out of his hand.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: No, no, Leon let the guy. Yesterday, the other guys just drop it.
[00:27:22] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, Emory. I mean, the guy was going for it. If he was like, you know, a half yard floor, he would have gotten it. But yeah, he just dropped it. It happened back to back weeks. I know Gannon, the head coach, apologized today to him apparently because he ripped him. But I don't think he should have apologized. Like, I don't, I don't want your forgiveness on that.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: I saw the video, his face.
[00:27:43] Speaker C: Yeah, he should have been. I mean, that's just, you know, that's beyond a mistake. You know, it's not just like, oh, you missed the blocking assignment or you ran the wrong route. Like that's an entire lack of concentration and like getting, you know, you know, getting ahead of yourself in the moment, whatever is like the goal needs to be getting to the goal line the way these guys, like just, I mean, at least secure the. You run out of gas, secure the ball there. At least you know you're gonna get tackled. Like, they just think like, oh, it's over. These split second decisions, I mean, that was just the beginning point. The interception, fumble, like whatever the hell that was, was one of the most insane plays I've ever seen too. That's just the game should have been over at that point and then all of a sudden it winds up as a touchdown.
It's crazy.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's wild. I mean, to your guys's point, I mean, I would have ripped if they. Honestly, if Arizona didn't have so many Injuries in the running back room. I would have cut the dude that night.
I would have just said, dude, pack your bags, get the out of here.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: You're a pretty good day. Besides that.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Because when they go back and look at it, I don't know, I think it's John the Gannon's third year there. I don't know how much longer he's going to be here. But this is why coaches get fired because they're like, oh, this guy's team and his record suck. But when you got guys making boneheaded plays like that and you go back at the end of the year and you go, oh, you guys finished, you know, eight and nine or you missed the playoffs by one game. And you go back and look at losses like this, it's crazy. I mean, the interception, the ground basically knocking the ball out.
Okay. I mean, it happens. That that happened. It happened. But just dropping the ball at the goal line.
Oh, man. I mean, if you. Yeah. Arizona was definitely. Jason said, top five most disappointing losses probably in NFL history. It's got, it's got a rank up there with so much weird stuff going against. Not only that, it gets probably the worst team in the NFL here in the last five, 10 years. I mean, Tennessee is God awful.
[00:29:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: Pretty bad.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: I like Arizona's coach, he was less speechless. Pete Carroll was less speechless. Like a lot of losses have left, have left a lot of teams speechless after this week. You can kind of feel like the cookie crumbly now for some teams. They. They're just like ready to mill it in.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:50] Speaker C: I mean, it's not. I think Aaron's right about the point of D. Mercado getting cut. If it wasn't for the injuries, running back room. I mean, he was then the third back, the third back on the roster and they brought up Michael Carter, you know, from the practice guy, whatever. And he. And he was the spike of. Carter was the starter. He got the, the 18 carries. D. Mercado just had the biggest run of the game, which should have been really his highlight. That turns into, you know, complete disaster before himself and the team. Because Aaron's right. These are the turning points of the season. I'm again, I mean, I don't want to bring the Bears into this, but think a year ago we're talking about the Hail Mary versus Jaden Daniels and. And on that, on that Sunday game stuff.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: That's good stuff.
[00:30:30] Speaker C: I mean, just like that it was. The Bears were dead in the water after that. I mean, we're going to talk about It a million times next week when the Bears play the Commanders on Monday night. But that was a moment that that team never recovered from. Like, this is a terrible loss to a bad Titans team where tons of things went wrong. And while Divarkado's play is probably seen as, you know, it is the biggest, like, mistake of the game. You can talk through, you know, there was tons of other things that the Cardinals are just giving this game away to a Titans team. That is not good. And, you know, how are you going to respond to that?
[00:31:01] Speaker B: It's tough because what it's now like three games back to back to back, losing by three straight games by field.
[00:31:07] Speaker A: Goal, which has never been done, I think, in NFL. Not only that, Rome. I mean, this is their schedule coming up at Colts, Green Bay, at Dallas, at Seattle, 49ers, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Rams, Texans. I mean, this is a team that's probably going to be 3 and 8.
[00:31:23] Speaker B: But they're going to be in all of them, though.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: Yeah, but, you know, that's all great when you're in college, but when you're in the pros, man, I mean, 3 and 8 being in games and losing, it's a tough defeat. You know, you talk about, you know, Kyler Murray, I mean, he. He had what, a snap go right off his helmet. Didn't even dive for the ball. Just kind of sat there and watched it. That turned into a turnover.
Arizona's, like I said, they're one of those teams. We talk about it every year right now it seems underdru. Like they're there, but they just don't make that next player that next step. I don't know what they can do, really.
You know, I don't. I'm not a big fan of their offensive coordinator. I mean, their defensive coordinator looks like fucking 32 years old. Looks like they just got him out of like a GA room at a, like, Georgia or somebody. Like, hey, you. You've been working at Georgia for a while. Just come and coaching defense.
A lot. A lot of issues in the desert, man. A lot of issues. They got a lot of problems. I mean, they're the worst team in that division by far. Still.
It's tough, man. It's tough to be a Cardinals fan besides them.
[00:32:25] Speaker B: So we'll give them, like, the biggest loss of the week. Is there, like, any contenders maybe, or should we just, like, close the book on that one for biggest loss?
Yeah, that might be it, I think. Everything else, pretty good losses.
[00:32:39] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, you could. You could make an argument about the Ravens because Of gore their expectations are but with how hurt they are, you know, I think everyone besides me would have picked the Texans in that game.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: Cooper Rush looked terrible.
[00:32:52] Speaker C: He did. Which was, which was surprising considering how well he played with Dallas and some of his starts. Like it just, it wasn't there.
I think maybe. I don't know if it's worse loss. Aaron called this out when we previewed Buck Seahawks. The Seahawks home field advantage that was so vaunted for the longest time. Like man, I really thought Seattle like even though I picked the bucks in that, in that game, I just. Seattle just feels like, I mean that was a tough place to play when the legion of Boom era, like just the sound and everything about that and every and all. Everything that went there was hard to play. Now like they're, they're one and two at home this year. I can't remember Aaron how bad they were at home last year. But you know this, this is, this is a pretty good football.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: I think they were three and five last year.
[00:33:36] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:33:37] Speaker A: At. At home that, that would.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: That up.
[00:33:42] Speaker C: I would say that one. It surprised me a little bit. Like I knew it would be a close game but I, you know, Seattle, the Buccaneers in the fourth quarter. Sometimes of this team are just, you know.
[00:33:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean to Jason's point. I mean Seattle, Seattle rallied back. I believe that game was 13 or 14. Nothing came back. Game was tied. They went for it on fourth and two, got a touchdown, up seven at home of 2, 20 to play. Baker goes down the field in like five plays and gets a touchdown. And then what? Sam Darnold gets that tough interception where it bounces off a dude's helmet, gets picked off. Buccaneers get the game winning field goal. I mean Tampa Bay is one of these teams that they just win every game late.
They find ways to win. But Seattle, I mean, yeah, I really like Seattle. I liked him in that spot. I know they had some like three guys out in the secondary, but that, that was the first time I think in NFL history that two quarterbacks, 3, 4, 325 yards and an 80 plus percent completed completion percentage. First time in NFL history both quarterbacks achieve that in a game from opposing teams.
[00:34:46] Speaker B: It's pretty crazy, man. Sam Darnold, he's gonna have a pretty good year. Four touchdowns, one interception.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: Carolina Panther guys. So I mean that, that game was hyped up a lot. It lived up to it. It was a great game.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a really good game. All right. We, we've been doing like ass kicking of the week. Or like ass whooping of the week.
[00:35:02] Speaker A: Lil Realm. I mean, before, before we, you know, you mentioned it earlier. Before we, before the biggest loss of the week, you kind of hinted at about 10 minutes ago, it was Penn State. Let's just be honest. It was Penn State. That's the big. That's the biggest loss of the week. I, I don't care what happened to the Cardinals. I mean, the NFL is the NFL, but Penn State a 25 point favorite going against the Owen for Bruins. If you're talking about the biggest loss of the week, that gets my vote. I don't care what anybody else says.
[00:35:29] Speaker B: People are joking how like, you know, no one like really rushed to feel. It's like a calm rush and everyone's just happy.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: I don't think anybody knew how to rush to.
[00:35:39] Speaker C: I, I didn't know there was anyone there to be able to rush the field.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: I had a good crowd.
[00:35:42] Speaker C: They had a good crowd and it was Penn State.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Pitchers are like all those pitches always from like, you know, half an hour, 45 minutes before the game.
[00:35:49] Speaker C: Yeah, you always say that. No, I, I'll say maybe I put the curse on James Franklin because I think there was calls for his job, you know. You know, and I, I was talking on the last pod about, you know, Penn State just wants to be happier than happy at a certain point. And they've had, you know, good success of the third best team in the Big Ten. They're probably going to make the College Football Playoff. They just can't beat Ohio State and Michigan then come out here and lay an absolute egg to a team that I know. I got a group text of friends talking about, should UCLA be relegated from the Big Ten at a certain point? And the flag went up. Hey, relegations off. You know, they, they can stay in the Big Ten for a little longer, dude.
[00:36:28] Speaker B: Like new Heisel, you know, taking over play calling.
It's been two weeks since they fired their head coach. I thought UCLA did a great job. Blake, great play calling. Great play all around their quarterback, which they took from Tennessee. They did like a switcheroo there. He had a great game. It was actually pretty fun to watch. I caught it from the second half on because I was just like kind of going back and forth. I was like, wait a minute, like they're actually up. Like, no way. You know, I was waiting for the disappointment to set in. And then once I realized, like, dude, they're actually playing good.
All right, let's watch a little more of this.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: Jason sent the text Friday. Believe that UCLA had not led for one second all year, which is amazing in itself.
And then I was gonna. I was gonna text before the game, like, who's. Who's willing to bet like a beer that UCLA will have the lead on this game or buy a round? And then all of a sudden, they're up 10 0. But Rome, I think we underestimate. It's actually the perfect spot for an upset.
[00:37:19] Speaker B: Right.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: You're. You're coming. You're playing against a team that's been underachieving.
We're traveling from the Midwest out west.
You're coming off the most devastating loss of your season in a wide out.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: And now you're going against a UCLA team of coaches that you don't even know what the game plan is going to be. They come out with total different game plan. Run the quarterback 16 times for like 160 yards. He rushes for, like three touchdowns. And before Penn State knew it, they were in a dog fight. And then once they turned it up, they just didn't have enough time.
I mean, if there's another quarter left in that game, they probably end up winning by two touchdowns. They just. They didn't have enough time. And UCLA pulls the upset. The question is now who's really going to replace James Franklin? I've got the perfect candidate, but I don't think he's going to go there.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: Okay, do you want to say now or you want to save it for the college football podcast on Wednesday?
[00:38:11] Speaker A: I'll. I'll save it for Wednesday.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: Okay. All right.
[00:38:14] Speaker C: So I liked online, the Penn State was like, hey, we can't beat a top 10 team. And we fly all the way to the west coast and then lose to Joffrey Baratheon.
Gotta watch Game of Thrones.
[00:38:25] Speaker B: If you're looking at the Game of.
[00:38:26] Speaker C: Thrones Game of Thrones reference for Young Heisel on the sidelines.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: I like it. Dude.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I was like, who is this guy? Yeah, he does look like him.
Holy.
[00:38:39] Speaker C: All right. The joke set in. It was just like, just need to stare a little more, you know? Oh, man.
[00:38:44] Speaker B: I'm like, okay, yeah, that's so good.
All right, before we do a biggest win of the week for the NFL, who gets the ass whooping on the week?
[00:38:55] Speaker C: I mean, there's.
[00:38:56] Speaker B: There's some strong contenders here.
[00:38:57] Speaker C: Some strong contenders. I mean, you could be looking at the Raiders, you could be looking at the Ravens, maybe even the Chargers, what they were, you know, doing there.
I'm gonna give it to the Raiders. Though I'm gonna give it to the Raiders. I, I expected a little bit more after that. You know, showing against the Bears have maybe found the running game a little bit. You know Geno just continued to be off defense wasn't there, you know like, like Crosby was still a problem but I think Crosby's just playing by himself out there for the most part.
[00:39:33] Speaker B: He had a good game. Yeah, as good as a game you can have with no help. Nycre.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean you could put the Raiders on there. I mean this team made the score closer but I said it was the worst hire in the off season. Aaron Glenn, I love seeing him get his ass whipped every week. So keep that up.
Jets what it, what a sorry bunch of team they are.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I watched part of this game and I just.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: They're on. They're unwatchable man.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: I just don't get it.
I just don't get it. And, and like when you look at the stats and like it's kind of respectable when you look at the end of the day but it's just some. Something's not right. I'm not sure if it's Glenn. I like Glenn but they were playing like a high powered offense with Dallas. Prescott had another great game.
It just wasn't good at all. Just wasn't good.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, I mean Dallas is offensively is not bad but that they were down 30 to 3 in that game going to what the 4.
[00:40:31] Speaker B: They were right.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: I mean we've, we've all watched Dallas this year defensively I don't believe outside of the opening game against the Eagles they held anybody under what almost 40, 30. I mean Chicago could have scored a lot more on them. They just didn't.
[00:40:45] Speaker B: You know it's a crazy stat that I heard over the weekend that Justin fields is over 26 or over 27 when the other team scores 21 points. And I, and, and now saying it, I'm pretty sure Jason said this like a year ago probably.
[00:41:02] Speaker C: I mean I, it sucks because I, I like Justin Fields as the professional he was and like every and the way he handled the situation. But there comes to the point where hey it was the Bears didn't give him all the tools in Chicago which they didn't but never could make that work. Goes to Pittsburgh, loses the job they didn't get really give him a chance. Now you get the full on starting job with the Jets. Had a great week one but after that it has not been nothing. And I, I think this is where you know, hey you're gonna lose the opportunity to be the starter and eventually Justin turns into, you know, the best backup in the league. You know, like Mitch Trubisky.
[00:41:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I've talked to a lot of people on Justin Fields and it's kind of like, you know, Jason mentioned he didn't have the right. He hasn't ever had an offensive really guru coach. I mean, he's always had defensive guys. And if you go back to a success at Ohio State, who do you have? An offensive guru and Ryan Day. So if you give him someone like a Steichen and McVeigh, a Liam Cohen, an elite offensive head coach, can he pit a productive numbers and be that guy? I don't know. I mean, that's kind of the next step he needs. I mean, the jets, outside of Garrett Wilson in a run game, their offensive line is average at best. They don't have a tight end to throw to.
And defensively they've given up over 30 points a game. So that puts tons of pressure on a quarterback when you know you're going to be in a shootout and you have to almost be perfect. It's a lot of pressure for a guy that is struggling in this league. I don't know what he can be, but from a lot of people that I've talked to, they just want to see him get in an offensive system that kind of makes things more simple and lets him kind of be who he is. And I don't know if he's going to find that anytime soon.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: Yeah, the worst thing for him was going to a defensive coach, which I like Glenn, but yeah, going to the Jet system. I don't know too much about their oc.
When you look at their schedule though, coming up, they do have a chance to win some games. After the Broncos, which I. I expect the Broncos to come in. I'm gonna put Bo Nix in my starting lineup because I can't.
[00:43:04] Speaker A: That game's in London, Rome. It is an international game. But the Broncos, I just saw at 6:30 they are going to beat the. Out of the jets, though.
[00:43:11] Speaker B: I usually like. I usually like to do the opposite for international games, but yeah, I just don't see it happening. But they got the Panthers, then the Bengals, then the Browns just throwing out there. They could get three wins there, but not much after that. Then they got the. And then they got the Dolphins a few weeks after that, but they got the Saint.
[00:43:30] Speaker C: They get the Saints on the schedule.
[00:43:32] Speaker B: I think maybe four wins if they're lucky for the rest of the year.
And that's on the high end. What do you guys think?
Maybe.
[00:43:40] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe. I, I think it's the high end, but you never know what happens again. They, they had an impressive week one at the defense being under, the defense.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: Being five and a half.
[00:43:49] Speaker C: Yeah, the defense is disappointment. Like you're talking about, like for Aaron Glenn. That's, that's not what he, he was brought here to have a good defense. To your point on Fields, though, we'll make a lot of judgments on quarterbacks coming into this league, but it matters a ton who, what team you get drafted, the talent around, the coaching you have, what the system fit is. You know, Sam Darnold is probably, you know, a great example that entire game. Sand Darnold and Baker Mayfield on finding the right coach. So when you look, when you look at a majority of these quarterbacks, they're probably all between like the fifth and the 20th best quarterback in the league. And they're probably all the same guy. And it matters, the situation around us and who they have. Like, you can make the argument.
No, I mean, when you see these quarterbacks go to different, different systems, I mean, there's just, there's just something, you know, that, that teams have or don't have. And you're going to get the exceptions of maybe a Mahomes or a Josh Allen, you know, maybe Lamar Jackson. But you start going down, you know, some down the slotting past the top five and you're getting to the lower top 10. Like, these guys can be all replaceable. And that's why someone like, you know, Kyle Shanahan. I'll just go find a guy. Mac Jones. Hey, you're good. You know, we'll make, we'll make it work for you. Brock.
They did, I mean, Shanahan, like Mac Jones, I think, coming out of college and wanted him. So. Yeah, I, I think there, there is something to some of these guys like Shanahan, where it's like Mac Jones, hell.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: Of a game, man. He, he looked like he was getting beat up like Rocky. And like Rocky, too, kept on getting up after each knockdown, his legs barely dangling around, standing in the pocket, delivering punch after punch. It's like he has so much street cred now here in San Francisco and all over on the socials.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: Well, I think Jason made a great point. Outside of a handful, maybe whatever, the top six, eight quarterbacks, everyone else is replaceable. And I think I talked, we've talked about it like, you know, if Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield switched teams during halftime, they still would have put up great numbers for that team that they were on.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: So it goes back, you know, I've talked to you guys about it. Like, why pay a guy like Purdy 45 million? Or maybe you bring Mac Jones in for a year, he plays good. And then you go, hey, we're gonna give you a 4 year, 120 million, 30 million per year average like Baker's got, Darnold's got. And we save all this money under the cap and we're still competitive and good, because now look at Dallas. I mean, Dax, good, but is he worth 60 million? No, he's not. He's not like a Joe Burrow that can take the team to another level, or Lamar or Patrick Mahomes.
So why not just move off him and bring another quarterback in for 20, 25, 30 million and give it a shot? I mean, that's. You could save money there in the cap. So unless I think you get that guy, which you probably are going to know right off the bat, I mean, I think Jaden Daniels are kind of seeing Washington. Maybe he's that guy. We're going to find out here in the next two years if Caleb's that guy. I mean, Jason will be able to tell you by year four or five. Hey, you're going to pay Kayla millions, William, 65 million. Are you going to move off them? We're going to find out in the next two years. So there's no point in being like, all right, Caleb's had four years, three years in Ben Johnson system, and he's a 500 quarterback. Let's pay him 65 million. I would move off him. And we'll see. We'll see what teams end up doing, but it's. It's tough.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: So ass open of the week. We got that locked down. You had the biggest win of the week.
I'm kind of in between the Niners, in between the Broncos over the Eagles, Buccaneers over Seahawks and actually those.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: A lot of good games this week. Five games, right.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: Pat Spills and Jaguars Chiefs tonight. Those were all really good quality wins, good quality losses.
[00:47:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I would probably.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: I know what's bigger, though.
[00:47:42] Speaker C: I put it between the Broncos and the Jaguars because you're beating two teams that were in the super bowl and those are like, you know, statement wins on each of their resumes. The Broncos probably a little more impressive, them going west to east into Philadelphia. You know, Philly, tough place to play. This team has been. You know, they played close games, but the Eagles are a, you know, very Difficult team, you know, to play the class of the nsc. Probably a step above everyone, you know, for the most part when you look at that. So I'd say the Broncos would be my vote. But I, I think there's an argument to be made for, for the Jags tonight versus the Chiefs. The Chiefs have gotten it back in there together and yeah, I, I, I would say maybe a distant third for me if I'm g, if I'm going podium style here. Rome's got the McLaren hat. We're going Formula One. I, I, I put third on the podium to the Patriots. I think that's a big prime time win for Vrabel. I think Drake May, that's the type of performance now that people are going to remember. That big throw going to his right down the field to Diggs, you know, those are the things that like, hey, Drake May is a guy now, he's one that can do something. I think that that's, you know, a little bit of a statement that, that you've done, you've done the right quarterback choice that Forbes the right hire. This team's going to do something in the long term. So that, that'd be my, that'd be my podium finish for.
[00:48:55] Speaker A: Okay, I like, I like that podium. I'm gonna reverse order on it. I go. Jaguars 3, Broncos 2. The biggest one's the Patriots because by losing the division's over. Buffalo essentially has a three game lead. Now the Patriots pit pressure. Patriots realistically should be four in one guys. They, they gave that game away against the Steelers. Five turnovers, three in the end zone. Pittsburgh's not that good just for the record. But yeah, Patriots get the big, big podium step for me there. Jaguars impressive win and you know, you all know I love me some Bo Nicks. Sean Payton getting the job done in Philly. Down 173 wasn't looking great against the super bowl champs team that does not lose if Jalen hurts under center. I think they'd won 15 straight games that he started and finished. That was a big win.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: Nice.
Any last remarks on Week 5 in the NFL?
[00:49:48] Speaker A: I would say the last thing would be I, I've been seeing that they're catching it late, but what's up with all these footballs hitting like these wires and like drone cameras or whatever camps. Yeah. And the NFL, you know, replay people not catching them. I mean you could cost some people some games here.
[00:50:03] Speaker B: They actually did miss, what was it, a field goal.
[00:50:07] Speaker A: Yeah, Vikings game. Yeah, you could see that.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: And they didn't even recognize it. It's like, dude, come on, man. You can see the wires. Like. Yeah, I. I know they're intended to not be visible, but when you're that close, they're. They're visible.
[00:50:18] Speaker C: I'm surprised. I mean, I saw the video, but I'm surprised no one, like, for the, you know. Was it the Vikings kicker that did that? I can't remember which kicker did it. Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't make a big deal about it because, I mean, I believe they could see it at that point, but because it took a. It took a weird angle after it hit it, but it's a great call. I'll be honest. When I was at the Bears Cowboys game, all of a sudden, there's a freaking drone all of a sudden, going over your second.
You know, in the second level, I'm like, where the hell did this thing come from?
[00:50:44] Speaker B: So, all right, before we go, since I don't want to, like, release this on Thursday night when a team's losing and they're, like, in the top eight. Here I was putting this together. I was as. I was watching the Dodgers, stressing me out. Dude, that bullpen. Every game, I feel like we got the victory. You know, I'm taking care of business. I'm away from the tv. I don't know what's happening. I disconnect, come back out. I'm like, what? The game's still going on.
Like, it should have been over by.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: Now, you know, I. The Dodgers, I mean, they've been fortunate.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: To have some good win.
[00:51:19] Speaker A: Some. Some. Some room to let that bullpen come in.
[00:51:22] Speaker B: But, oh, my God. I mean, I, I.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: It was 4 0. I'd given up. And then I look, it's 4 3, final. It's like, Jesus, man.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: Dude, these faces loaded.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:31] Speaker B: It was like, come on, man.
It was stressful.
It's best out of five right in the second round.
[00:51:37] Speaker A: Yeah. So they only need one more.
[00:51:39] Speaker B: God, that will be. Thank God.
[00:51:40] Speaker A: What, Wednesday? Thursday.
[00:51:41] Speaker B: Philly's a good team, dude. Like, they had to win it. Otherwise, I. You know, if they would have taken it today, then it would have been really tough.
All right, before we go, updated power rankings for the top eight. Lots of turnover here, you guys let me know if you think I should make some adjustments here before we release to the public.
But number eight.
[00:52:03] Speaker C: Wait a minute. This isn't the public.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know, we'll come on the pod. But, you know, official, this part gets edited out. Yeah, yeah.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: I think it's what he means.
[00:52:14] Speaker C: Gotcha.
[00:52:14] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, so.
So last week, the Steelers were number eight, but I. I just couldn't keep. Like, usually, you know, if.
If you're on idle, there's not enough reason to kick you out. I kicked out the seven and eight teams this week, which I hope you.
[00:52:31] Speaker A: Can rave this out, because they should have been out a long time ago if they hadn't already.
[00:52:34] Speaker B: Rome, they were out last week. Yeah. Okay, so 7 and 8, packers and Steelers don't make it to this week because now in the power rankings, I put the Broncos at number eight.
Very good team. I actually like the way they're playing, and I'm not. I'm not all over, like, like the way Aaron is, but they look like a really good team, and I don't think they'll win the AFC west, but they could, and they could do it in dominating fashion. So they got my attention. Now, Aaron, I am going to be watching every Broncos game because I want to see how good they can get.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: Because they look really good next week.
[00:53:05] Speaker C: Rome, I. I just want to say, Rome, I think it's good forward looking to put them in your Power 8 here because the next five games for the Denver Broncos, the New York jets, the New York Giants, the Dallas Cowboys, the Houston Texans, and the Las Vegas Raiders.
[00:53:24] Speaker B: Jesus Christ.
[00:53:25] Speaker A: I see. I see. At least I. I'm gonna say right now. I'm gonna say four wins right now. At least there.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: Unless something happens.
[00:53:32] Speaker A: Roster.
[00:53:33] Speaker B: So at least four wins. Yeah. Because, you know, it's the NFL. You're gonna drop one of Texans.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: I don't know where that one's at, but, you know, Texans. God.
[00:53:41] Speaker B: Dude, that' stretch for them. Wow. They're gonna be eight. Eight and three or.
[00:53:45] Speaker A: That's the thing. When you finish third in your division the year previously, you get. You get a little softer schedule.
[00:53:50] Speaker B: That's nice. All right, so Bronx are number eight, dropping considerably, whereas the team that lost Thursday night is the Rams. I put them in number seven.
You know, I. I thought it a good loss, but I can't drop them from, like, number. What. What were they number four out of the top eight, Number six. This was kind of tough. I know you guys might disagree. I thought it was a really gritty win, and I do like the quality wins. Although, like, they're at the end of the game by, like, field goals. There's another team in the top five that has won every game by field goal. But I put the Niners there. It was just gutsy with Mac Jones down to, like, their third, fourth, you know, level of receivers, running backs, guys on defense. They're. They're just really impressive to me. So I got them at number six. I think. Think it's a really impressive team there. What they got when they get people back, as they get people back, that's gonna be a fun team to watch. But for now, I got them at number six only because they beat the Rams. So they go above the Rams. That was kind of difficult. Between six and eight, number five Colts. They weren't even the top eight. They jump into number five. Just really big win. They just been taking care of business. I feel like they deserve it, especially with their record to be number five.
Four, a big win against Seahawks on the road.
Buccaneers move up a couple spots to number four. They were number six last week.
Top of the order. Bills drop one from losing the game to the Pats. Can't really drop them any further than that because the Eagles drop down from number one to number two. Tough loss against the number eighth ranked team, Broncos. And the Lions move up to the number one ranked team in the power rankings as they've been in dominating fashion after week one. So that's the new power rates.
[00:55:37] Speaker C: I wanted to repeat it. Everything first before we rip into this. Go ahead. Go, go. Let's go, let's go. Eight.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: Eight is Broncos.
[00:55:44] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:55:45] Speaker B: Seven Rams.
[00:55:46] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:55:47] Speaker B: Six 49ers.
[00:55:49] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:55:49] Speaker B: Which I told you all those three are kind of confusing to me. Pretty sold on top five, though.
Five is Colts, four is Buccaneers, three is Bills, two is Eagles. One's Lions.
[00:56:00] Speaker A: You know, I'll start here. I Love room's power eight 49ers at six, if I'm not mistakenly. Right. Rome at four and one record. Who beat him last week?
[00:56:12] Speaker B: Jax.
[00:56:13] Speaker A: And what are the Jags record?
[00:56:15] Speaker B: Well, now they're 4. 1.
[00:56:16] Speaker A: So get the 49ers out of there and get the Jaguars in the top eight and get the Niners out of there. So I'd get the Rams out, put the 49ers in and get Jacksonville in there. That, you know, that's how you got to do it, man. Come on, you got to update.
[00:56:31] Speaker C: I'm not. I'm not disagreeing with Aaron. I also think if you look at now the 49ers have one of like the easiest schedule in the NFL. I think they had this year going into. So you're going to get some wins. But you guys know me, Rome. I bring some stats around these things.
The two. The two potential fraud alerts.
I'm not calling them frauds. I'm just saying Alerts. You look at your whole top eight.
Your, your point differential for the 49ers plus eight.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers are four and one. They're plus three.
So you are living and dying by field goal games. You could either be the Minnesota Vikings of last year or you can be.
I don't know what's. What's. The team has been losing by one possession. Games like the Cardinals.
[00:57:18] Speaker B: Arizona.
[00:57:18] Speaker C: Yeah, Arizona. You could be Arizona. So I think, I think there's some stuff now. The good teams winning the close games, I get that. But you know, these elite teams that are up there are putting it on them. So I don't know, just something to think about. But I agree with Aaron not having the Jags in this list.
[00:57:33] Speaker B: I just wasn't really sold on them yet. But today kind of, kind of changed it, but I'll think about it.
[00:57:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I, I would move that definitely. I'd get the Rams out of their roam. Get the jags in there. 49ers, that's fine. They're. They're up there and, you know, they're four and one. That was what. They were down a ton of bodies for that game too. We're not expected to beat the Rams. I mean, that game was a nine closed at almost nine point underdog.
So that, that was a huge, huge win.
But yeah, I'd say everything else looks pretty, pretty good there.
[00:58:09] Speaker B: All right, I'll do it for week five. We'll do lines on Thursday for week six against the spread contest. We'll update it. I finished with nine and four last week, Jason with eight and five. We were tied coming into tonight's game, the Monday night game. So that was really exciting.
And then Aaron finishes with seven and six. We all finished above.500. Pretty good stuff. I don't know what the total is now, but I think now I'm just barely a game above.500. And I think everything else, it's been tough. Sniper west has commented on the socials and he, he was talking about, like, how he did pretty well on the sides for, like, after talking to us, he changed a lot of his bets and sold them, you know, sold his picks and he did really well. So we're gonna try to get him back, if not this week, next week. He wants to.
[00:59:01] Speaker A: No, I just, I would say, hey, you know, if he's using the information we're given a little kickback of generosity for the, you know, like a little tip jar would be nice, you know.
[00:59:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:59:12] Speaker A: Just saying you could, you know.
[00:59:14] Speaker B: Well, he made a killing by being on our show, so.
[00:59:18] Speaker A: I mean, it's the most viewed. It's the most viewed full episode we have on YouTube from what I can see. That's not a short clip. Yeah, I believe.
[00:59:24] Speaker B: I don't know our.
I updated the landing page for the F1 because I'm still working on, like, getting the designs, and that one's climbing up.
[00:59:35] Speaker A: I did have. I did have GT comment on that episode, and I don't hear that every.
[00:59:39] Speaker C: Day on the Formula One episode or the Sniper west episode.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: Sniper West.
[00:59:44] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: What do you say?
[00:59:45] Speaker A: He just. I have to go back and look. I think he hit me up. He's like, hey, where'd you find this Sniper west guy?
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Okay. So nice.
[00:59:53] Speaker A: Something like that. Tommy ran into him at Vegas, circa, circa pool.
[00:59:58] Speaker B: Yeah. When Roma's knocking it out for open bar, and so is he.
[01:00:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:03] Speaker B: Dangerous combo, dude. Yeah, except he has, like, £150 on me.
[01:00:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:00:11] Speaker B: All right, I'll do it. Source from the sofa. We are out.
