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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:05] Speaker B: Sources from the sofa. We are back after a little hiatus from everybody. Three or four weeks. We are about to hit the NBA Finals, NHA, NHL Finals. We have three F1 races to cover. Jason took a trip to Indy for the Indy 500 with his family. Look like based on the pictures on IG looked pretty legit. What else we miss? We missed the Champions League final. Dallas epic this past weekend and ass whipping of the ages. And just a lot to cover about COVID on, on every playoff run so far. [00:00:45] Speaker A: So. [00:00:46] Speaker B: Welcome Jason. Aaron, welcome back to the pod. [00:00:50] Speaker C: It's great to be back. I know the sources were out and about just wondering where the pod had been the past couple weeks. There was a, there was a lot of sources saying there was. Rome was not excited about me reporting on a month's worth of racing. You know, so there was a lot of racing content. Rome wasn't about that. But there was other sources out there just claiming, just Rome's been a little lost because since the Lakers really went down and Aaron and I kept telling him about the Thunder, we're just going to roll through everyone all the way to the finals. But I don't know. I mean, Aaron, you may have some different sources on this as well too. Where, where Rome's been. I mean you, you once claimed you had sources on me wandering through the desert after the Bears lost in Arizona. So maybe Rome was taking that same retreat that I once took back in October. [00:01:39] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. I, I heard, I heard from a source. You know, you gave him, you gave him that promo code. He got 20% off on this retreat. Definitely needed it. Also remember we did have a lost episode that's no longer aired where we talked about the Lakers defeat. Somehow that did not make ways on this sources from sofa pod. So I mean Roma, that's weird. Basically. If it doesn't air, it doesn't exist in Rome's book. So I mean the Lakers are still maybe playing. I don't know. [00:02:09] Speaker B: All right, congrats guys. Congrats. All right, let's just jump in the NBA Finals then. Since last time recorded. Yes, Lakers lost in five games, I believe to the Timberwolves. Timberwolves went on to take care of the warriors in five games. Pretty epic run from Julius Randle. Anthony Edwards as well. The Thunder rolled over the Grizz took care of the Nuggets in a grueling seven game series. And then I think three of the five games were pretty close when they were playing the Timberwolves, but they just beat them to a pulp. And I Think it was like what, three or four games, winning by 30 plus points. So far they're on track of having like one of the five best. You know, overall, like when you look at differential and, and wins win totals, they got sga. He won the MVP for the year, led the league in scoring. It's, it's one of those epic seasons in a long, long time rivaling like the warriors, the Lakers, the, the, you know, the Bulls dynasties. So we'll see if this is the start of something new on the other side. Pacers took care of the Cavs pretty handily. Got some lucky bounces. Halliburton playing lights out. The whole team play lights out. They won in five games. The Knicks took advantage of a injured Jason Tatum. We didn't see that one coming. But they took care of the first two games, I think. Right. Or at least the first game kind of upset them and kind of took the win out of their sails and kind of punched them right in the face. They took care of that in six games. And then both of those guys, Pacers, Knicks faced off in the Eastern Conference finals win six. But Pacers outclassed them every bit of the way with a lot of defense taking cat up position. And now we got thunder. Pacers. I'm excited for this Finals. It's pretty exciting. Two small market teams, but, but both teams play with like a really fast pace of play. They got some dynamic shooting guards. One's more of a shooting guard for, for a point guard and then the other one's more of a passing point guard. And Halliburton. So pretty fun recap on the whole playoff so far. Aaron or Jason. [00:04:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean there's so much to unpack here. I'd say where we definitely got wrong and I'll say the Celtics where we talked about coming out of the east, that should have been the lock going all the way through. And you mentioned those first two games against the Knicks were just really outmatched. And then Tatum got hurt and it was pretty much over. And the Knicks were able to go through. The Pacers just been kind of cruising, you know, through the Bucks, through the Cavaliers, got to the Knicks. It was kind of competitive. But overall the Pacers are able to take that in six. And so, I mean, I will say that I was, I was pretty hyped for the Pacers Knicks series as a wrestling fan because I WWE foreshadowed the Jaylen Brunson, Tyrese Halberton showdown on smackdown. [00:05:07] Speaker B: Did you send that on ig? [00:05:08] Speaker C: I think I sent It. I think I sent it to you. Yeah. So this, it was about a year ago on smackdown last summer. They were. We. It was already giving you the spoiler right there. WWE's letting you know where it was going to be. And I really like Tyrese Halliburton. I think just I, I'll like any really pro athlete that really embraces pro wrestling, especially when they're going to get on the gimmick. And what I liked about Halliburton going into MSG is like, hey, I, I'll be the heel. I'll be the bad guy in this. In, in this arena and really playing it up. And I think there's a little, little extra showmanship, especially with the old Reggie Miller choke sign, you know, in that game one and add a little bit to it. So I, I would say, as much as I, I would love to tell you, and I'll always say that the NHL playoffs are always the best playoffs out there. The NBA is kind of like it's a chalk. I, I would say this is one of the most entertaining NBA playoffs in a really long time. And this is coming from a person that's not the biggest basketball fan, especially when it comes to. Generally it's always chalk. But this has not been chalk on the Eastern Conference side of the ball. Even though they've had some 4142 series, the games have been pretty competitive. The west, you know, I guess there was a little more. Some blowouts in some of the series, but when you looked at Thunder Nuggets and Nuggets Clippers, those were some great series early on. And then Rome. I want to give you this credit because I'll be a man of saying something you talked about in the Timberwolves. You know, the Timberwolves series, I think we were talking against the Lakers, and this was before the Lakers were beaten at that point. But Anthony, Anthony Edwards, in that series, you were talking about him being the face of the league. And I really think after beating the Lakers and taking down the warriors, he was really on a run. I'll say to be. I don't know if the face of the league, but the buzz around him I think was. Was pretty exponential of being one of these guys. And I don't know if we're ever going to get a single face of the league like we had with Jordan and probably LeBron. But I, I will say I want to give you credit where credit's due that I think Anthony Edwards was basically systematically taking down the old guard in those first two rounds. If You, I'll give you the pro wrestling equivalent at Rome. This was the 2008 era. Randy Orton in WWE when he was going by the Legend Killer. All right, he was. Anthony Edwards was taking down the Legends. He took down LeBron, he was taking down Steph and Draymond. He was ready, on his way. But you know what? He runs into another group of young guns there with the Thunder, who I believe Aaron and I have been saying all year, been above, above and beyond in the Western Conference. They were going to roll through. Did they need to face any adversity? It didn't look like it. And they're overwhelming favorites now going into the finals. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Aaron. [00:07:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the recap, Eastern Conference room, like you said. Indiana, five games. They dismantled the Bucks. Damien Lillard got hurt there. Achilles, I mean, we saw two guys go out on Achilles, you know, possible future hall of Famers in both Lillard and Tatum going down. And then you've got Indiana getting Cleveland. Cleveland was banged up. A couple roll guys were hurt in that series. Give them credit. Indiana took them out in five games. I didn't see that one coming. I thought Indiana could beat them. I thought that was gonna be a seven game series. But Indiana went in there, got it done. The Knicks, we talked about them barely escaping against Detroit. I mean, they won three games, I think on the road in that series by like a total of five points. They go into the Celtics series, somehow win the series where they were down in four of the five games or four of the games that they won basically by 20 points. So. And they came back obviously and beat Indiana in another game. They're down 20 points. Kind of weird when you look at the knicks. They're down 20 points. They start to wake up and play well. So, you know, good run for them, Thibodeau, good job. I mean, I'm hearing a lot of rumors back and forth on whether or not he's going to keep his job or not. The Knicks haven't been to an Eastern Conference finals since what I believe 2000 or 1999. Yeah, they had a good run. I solid team, but they ran into a buzz saw. I mean, Indiana's been the class of the east really in these playoffs. Boston, who we thought could get there, they had depth and they started to lose all their death. Brzingis had some kind of illness, respiratory, couldn't breathe. Tatum gets hurt. We later find out. I think Jalen Brown was playing with a sprained mcl. I believe it was later revealed. Holiday. Holiday was playing at three quarters, no Matter how much depth you got, if you start losing star players or they're banged up, it can come back and haunt you. Especially against a deep team like Indiana. I mean, Cleveland was really deep, but Indiana, we've seen in these playoffs, they'll go 10, 11, 12 deep and they just keep running. They don't stop. They just keep coming at you. And then you'll go to the west. OkC 4 game sweep of Memphis. You know John Moran, he got hurt there in game three. Looked like Memphis was on their way. They were up 29 points. He gets hurt. Sales go out there and they get blown out and get swept. Champions Nuggets classic seven game series with the Clippers like Jason mentioned. Then they come back and go seven again. Aaron Gordon basically playing on one leg. I mean, he's got a grade two hamstring, no reason to be playing, but went out there, gave it his best. So I was glad that OKC beaten them because I just wanted teams. We got the final four teams, they're the most healthiest, right? Yeah, we didn't want, we didn't want like Gordon and the Nuggets advancing. And then I think Minnesota would have beaten them just like they did the year before. So then you got the Thunder. We mentioned Edwards, great first two rounds, even Julius Randall was great. And then they just. OkC defensively. Rome, you've been talking about them. They're putting up historic numbers there. Point differential, clutch games. They've been just blowing people out. They dismantled the Timberwolves in five really good game four there, which the Thunder won by two points there in Minnesota. But that pretty much sealed that series. They came back and closed it out and being about what, 30, 40 there in game five. Yeah, no, no energy from the T wolves. So yeah, I mean this, this NBA Finals we have, I think is the two best teams in the league. They're very similar to me, very evenly matched. They Both can play 9, 10, 11 guys. Both have sides, both have front court players that can score. It's going to be a really exciting NBA Finals matchup. Rome, I know we were talking about it. I think it's gonna be the best finals matchup we've had in at least a decade, if not in a while. This might be the best one. I think it's gonna be a seven game series. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Let's get back to that in a little bit because that's wild right there. But just to re. Restate your guys' sentiments of the playoffs in the last pod that like, you know that I can't Recoup. I was talking about how, like, I was really digging this year's playoffs and the young teams are like, really aggressive. They're really putting these old teams on notice. Like, you can't with us, dude. By all means, man. Detroit should have been in the second round facing the Knicks. So Knicks barely got out, and it looked like the Knicks were just built just to beat the Celtics. And you've seen this like in the past where like, teams are built to beat one team because you think that's gonna be the last team standing. But the problem was they had a team that matched up really well in the Pacers. And so there, there goes that matchup. It was just all about matchups, man. And that's the crazy part. You're right, man. If the Nuggets do pull out that victory against the Thunder and go on to the Western Continentals, Timberwolves are doing a gentleman's sweep as well on the opposite end. So, like, no doubt about that. The only thing I didn't like, Ant in that final game didn't really show up, man. Like, he looked 23 and like, if he just develops like a mid game, the NBA is going to be on notice, man. They're like, they got a lot of veterans there. He's. He's on fire. He's on the rise up. There's not too many guys that are better than him and, and he's really young. So I'm, I'm slowly. I'm a big Ant man fan, so really, really digging that. But you're right. Thunder, Pacers, very similar. They're deep. They've been the two deepest teams in the playoffs. I think that's been the difference. Everyone else is going like, you know, some seven, eight, and they got guys down to 14, ready to play, ready to shoot. Pacers, they've had guys in almost every big victory just come up clutch, you know, knocking down three pointers, getting big steals. Siakam's been clutch. I thought Halliburton should have won MVP for the Eastern Conference finals, but, you know, really happy that Siakam got it as well. He's, he's. He's a really good player. But seven games, dude, that's what you think the finals are going to go to? What do you think about that, Jason? [00:13:48] Speaker C: I think it's a pretty crazy take considering Loma City. I would a nine and a half point favorites here in like game one. [00:13:54] Speaker B: Game one? [00:13:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that, you know, Oklahoma's overwhelming. I, I would say I, I had Friends texting me saying, do the Pacers win a game? So I got people going on the opposite end of the spectrum. [00:14:05] Speaker A: Tell them to call me. I've got my wallet ready, man. [00:14:08] Speaker C: Okay. I think it's somewhere in the middle. I, I don't know if it goes seven. I wouldn't be surprised. It goes six. I think there's something special with Halliburton and this and this Pacers team. They're going to pull out a game. But I do think Oklahoma City's better. One thing I'll say about this Finals, I did see too, the Thunder Pacers NBA Finals is the first finals since the luxury tax has been in effect that neither team was paying the luxury tax. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Really. [00:14:34] Speaker C: So when you. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty cool. [00:14:36] Speaker C: So when you talk about depth, these are two teams and organizations that, hey, we naturally grew everything here. We got the right free agents that made sense that play within the role. But I mean there could be a larger conversation. Maybe it's our post NBA Finals show you talking about like do we need the super team formation anymore? Are we trying to get three stars to put together or is like do I just need to find maybe a guy and you hit like a Halliburton and then there's a 1B that's really good too. And then a lot of good B plus players like surrounding it. And when you look at the Thunder, I forgot how many draft picks they have, but I swear they have like 20 draft picks over the next like, like seven years or something like that. So it's like even when they begin losing guys here, you know, depending on how well they draft and these, you know, maybe late first round picks, but they're going to be able to let guys go that may be part of this core, that they may pay, they may not pay, I don't know. But they're going to have assets to continue to build, whether they get more established players or they draft well and have that depth and keep churning. So you could, it could be the start of something special in OKC because they may just be just churning through and having this, you know, well of talent for the next like five to seven years, depending how they build around. But I think when you look at the last couple NBA Finals and where things are at, where probably the history of the NBA, NBA is most popular with dynasties. It's. It's the Celtics, it's the Lakers, it's my Bulls. You know, it was the Lakers again. It was the, it was the, the Warriors. Like the NBA thrives on dynasties but if you look at the last five, six years, we got new champions, new teams popping up. And when you look at the depth of where this, you know, playoff field could have been when you Rome, you were right. Matchups, you know, are going to be so important here. You know, where, where the bracket lines up now could ultimately play into someone's favor. And we could have different teams going, you know, to the NBA Finals, where it was like, hey, it's not just a. That's just a slam dunk. The Bulls are just pulling through everyone. It's going to be Bulls, whoever in the Finals, or it's going to be warriors, whoever in the Finals, like it was, you know, 10 years ago. It's going to be very competitive and depending on matchups here, potentially, because these. All these teams just have a different amount of depth that we're not used to. [00:16:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think Jason touched on a key thing there. Like I, you know, do teams go out, get into the luxury tax and try to create super teams? I mean, you got the spurs who have the, what, the number two and the number 14th pick in the draft. You know, there's rumors about where Giannis may end up. But you start looking at the teams that are in the NBA finals now in OKC in Indiana, like Jason mentioned, they have 10 guys that can play, and not just guys they throw off the bench. Like, these guys all contribute and have a role, and they play that role good. And what happened with New York? What has been their downfall, really? All your tips to only play six, seven guys, and they ran out of gas. Yeah, he tried to get some guys shamming and other guys in there, and they gave him a little bit of a spark and they got a game, but it was a little too late. You go back to Denver. What. What do we talk about, Joker? I mean, Denver had the best starting five statistically, numbers wise of any team in the NBA. But they had no 6, 7, 8 outside of Russell Westbrook. So we're seeing now if you can kind of build in through the draft, keep those players, develop them PIM in the G League, maybe just, you know, gradually get on more minutes as the years go on, and then add a key player like a Siakam and a free agency, you can, you can make some moves. I mean, Miles Turner's been there 10 years. Halliburton, they traded for with your keens, their Rome. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Sabonis, which was a good trade for both teams at the time. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Teams, yeah. [00:18:12] Speaker A: Kings got to the playoffs. The Pacers now have been Going up. The difference is the Pacers that built around Halberton, you know, the Keens have not built around Sabonas, got rid of Fox and other guys. So I think depth wise, staying under that number, keeping draft picks, I mean, I've always valued NBA picks. The Celtics really did it that way of aims. Remember there was always talks about is he going to trade for AD or not. He kept Brown, he kept Tatum. Everybody said that window closed. They ended up getting a title. We all thought they would get back there again, but injuries happened as part of the game. Dynasties have always been the NBA thing. We know Adam Silver is trying to kind of get rid of that with the new CBA and kind of non dynasties. I agree with you guys. Dynasties are better than the NBA. I want to see a team win two out of three, three out of five, whatever it is. We have the Bulls, Lakers, Spurs, Warriors, Lakers again in there. And then a couple teams are mixed in here. But you know, you had Dallas win one, Denver win one in here, Detroit's one one. The Bad Boys won a couple in the late 80s. But dynasties are the name of the game and maybe OKC has that chance. We'll. We'll see. [00:19:18] Speaker B: Yeah, they're uniquely set up. So yeah, they could keep on drafting, but they're definitely gonna hit the tax. And what if not next year, the year after that? Because they have a few guys that they're going to want to keep. Jalen SGA's contract kicks in and you know, Chat, I imagine he's gonna get a contract as well, but pretty unique, really smart, fun offices. Yeah, I think the days of just going after one superstar might be done. You have to kind of build around the team culture first and then, and then go. Go that, go that route. But Thunder, Pacers, man, I'm really looking forward to it. Game one is on Thursday, 5:30. I'm gonna go on record. I'm just gonna pick Thunder and six games. [00:20:07] Speaker C: Jason, I'm gonna agree with you on that. Thunder and six. [00:20:11] Speaker A: Okay, seven game series. I'll go Thunder and seven. [00:20:15] Speaker B: Seven game. That's. That. That would be wild. It's possible though, I guess. [00:20:21] Speaker A: And lock it in. Pacers cover nine and a half. Game one. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Really? Yeah, they'll cover it. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Might even. You might even steal it too. [00:20:30] Speaker B: You know what's really funny about the Knicks going against the Pacers. You, you know, like the kind of player that they were missing in that series was like a center that played defense, kind of like a Julius Randall. [00:20:40] Speaker A: And a Hartenstein and Hartenstein as well. [00:20:44] Speaker B: The guys that they got rid of, by the way. [00:20:47] Speaker C: It's funny, though, when you talk about that. You talk about that trader bringing up, though. But, like, I. In hindsight, like, did either team really lose the trade or win the trade because they both made it to the conference finals at that point? [00:20:57] Speaker B: No, dude. [00:20:58] Speaker C: You know, I mean, a couple years, it's. It's one of those trades where it's like, was it. Was it best for both teams? Because everyone I. I know. I personally, I didn't understand the trade when the Timberwolves traded Cat, because I'm like, hey, this is kind of one of your, like, generational players. Julius Randall's kind of been around the league, but at the end, it looked like it was way better for the Timberwolves and then, you know, then for the Knicks. Like, I think Cat was a little bit of a difference maker in some of those early, you know, parts, but I don't know. It. It was interesting to be reflecting on that trade as, like, hey, they both went to the conference finals. [00:21:27] Speaker B: If this is the beginning of Julius Randall going on, like, a nice little tear, man, that's gonna be really nice. They just have to worry about the Thunder and everyone else that's tooling up in the west because it's gonna get wild. [00:21:35] Speaker A: I mean, the west is deep. I mean, we know if he. If he comes back from the blood clots, you know, Wimby's gonna be there, the spurs are gonna be there. Who knows? Who knows who's gonna trade for Giannis, if he's gonna get moved. San Antonio, Houston are probably the two most likely. I've even heard the warriors try to sneak their name in there to go one last shot with their core of guys. [00:21:57] Speaker B: I don't want to see one of the Warriors. [00:21:59] Speaker A: I don't want to see that either. [00:22:00] Speaker B: I'll sell my soul to see that not happen. [00:22:03] Speaker A: I think Houston's probably more likely to pull it, try to pull it out. I mean, I think San Antonio, and we haven't even talked about it, we've been off in the air, but Popovich basically retiring. We kind of brought that up, that he was done a while back, but now he's officially done. I think their model has always been they've never really traded for a superstar. I mean, they've never, ever gotten one, really, to go there that I can remember off the top of my head. They've traded for solid veterans in the past, but they got Castle, which won Rookie of the Year. I think Wimby, Fox, they got the number two and the 14th pick and some other depth there. To me, keep those guys and try to build up like the Thunder have, right? I mean you can be there, you can compete, you can get to a conference final. I mean, I think the Nuggets or a team that's got to add some more depth to their team. Adelman getting that coaching job too. So we'll see. But I think, I think Houston's most likely to trade for Giannis. [00:22:59] Speaker B: If there's one thing that the Knicks do to try to. Because let's face it, all matchups. But really they shouldn't have gone out of the first round. What's one thing that they changed because now that they're in the Eastern Conference, a lot of their fans are not happy that they didn't make the Finals. But honestly, it was already a good run. They should be happy with the year already. But should they go after a different coach, another player? [00:23:23] Speaker A: I mean they need players. They need. I need, they need depth. I mean, Tibbs, I mean Jason could touch on this too. Even with the Bulls. I mean it was always Dang and Rose and all those guys playing big minutes and then they would wear down against a deeper Miami team. Starting five, they were just as good, but they just, you know, he. There's always talked about him running these guys in the ground, right. I mean there's always been that talk about practice hard. You know, Jimmy Butler kind of came up in that system. A lot of these kind of newer guys aren't big on that. Cat obviously was there when he started out, I think as a rookie there with Minnesota, with Tibbs. [00:23:58] Speaker C: So that was the infamous Jimmy Butler like Cat thing. I think you're right, Aaron, but I think, I think it's less about the practice hard and stuff. I think it's more just what you said. It's the overall, what's your going to be your usage when it gets down to crunch time where if you can only play me against seven guys and I'm just going to rotate, you know, 10 to 11 out of. Out of this game and get minutes out of people that are going to be more fresh fresh and keep. Keep others fresh. I think, I think it's a difference maker when you get into some of these long series and one a couple of those players that are deeper in the bench that, hey, we're not talking about it's going to be one of those free agency moves or one of these draft picks that no one's ever going to remember, but all of a Sudden, like, oh yeah, this guy, this guy's really good. Like he's the ninth player on their bench, but he's a big impact player. [00:24:38] Speaker B: This year's playoffs has broken any conventional method of like how you do. NBA teams in the playoffs usually shrink down the roster, down to your best seven guys. The two last teams now 10, 11 deep. It is pretty amazing with no like crazy egomaniac front and center. Both guys share the ball. Pretty friendly teams, Great camaraderie. [00:25:02] Speaker A: I think we got to the seven man rotation when we kind of went to super teams, right? I mean, even I started thinking back, even if you go to the Bulls team of Jordan, Phil Jackson still would play 8, 9, 10 guys. I mean, they had depth. Even if you go to the Lakers teams too, with Phil Jackson there, I mean you had like Robert Horry, you'd have a Rick Fox, you know, Derek Fisher. I don't even think started early in that dynasty. They'd have guys that come in, give you solid minutes. And that's always been like we've talked about Jason Said. I mean, you get in the six, seven game series, you've got to play guys because guys get banged up. I mean, and also you got to have role players continue to contribute, right? Josh Hart was terrible in that Eastern Conference final. He gave the Knicks nothing. They. They bumped him from the starting lineup. Pinning what? Mitchell Robinson. And he was balling. He played really well, but you can see he was a big guy, not used to playing 40 minutes a game. So by the fourth quarter he was out of gas, right? I mean, he was just basically huffing and puffing Towns. He's a good offensive player, he's a good rebounder, but he makes a lot of stupid, silly fouls, just dumb stuff. He kind of forces things, kind of complaints to the officials and you can get in his head. And even Tibbs, I think he cost him game two when he sat him out like nine minutes in the fourth quarter. I mean, he was the hottest thing going offensively in that game. They need to get a point guard. We talk about what the Knicks need. They need to get a backup point guard. I mean, Brunson, love him, good player. But you saw what Indiana did. They just bodied him up, bodied him up. And he wore down. I mean, you could see it. He just, he just wore down. [00:26:31] Speaker B: You know, one thing I didn't like about the Knicks was Brunson's usage. He. He just held the ball too long a lot of times. [00:26:40] Speaker C: I think at least that's how the lineup kind of or that the way they play kind of go is he needs the ball in his hand, and it's. It's really wearing it down. Was he supposed to go to. I mean, is this supposed to be that time for Cat? But that. I think he was really owning it offensively for the team at that point. But Aaron's right, I think, just wearing down. If you got to be responsible on both ends of the court and you got the Pacers really throwing tons of different guys at you, it's. It's. It's going to be a lot in these long playoff runs. I mean, I don't want to get into hockey right now, but I'll give you my. My comparison. The. During the Blackhawks run, they have. You have six defensemen on the roster, but they. During their dynasty, they always played three. And so they're having three guys just out there at all times playing like 30, 35 minutes a game between Duncan Keeg, Brett Seabrook. I don't bring hockey names up, but it was like, the biggest thing every year is like, hey, I can't play six defensemen in the. In the finals. I'm always got these three guys running ragged, and that's why their careers ended early. [00:27:32] Speaker B: Did I send you that Blackhawks, like, throwback video? It's like, oh, back when Chicago was, like, up in fl, you know, it was like some black guy's like, oh, the Blackhawks got black guys? [00:27:41] Speaker C: Like, no, you said. You said to me that. Yeah, it's. It's a pretty famous video out there. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Oh, dude, I love that. It was. It was a really sick highlight video. All right, let's take a quick break. When we come back. [00:27:51] Speaker C: Hold on. I want to get one thing in, because I think we're gonna switch sports here. The biggest. Okay, the biggest news of the NBA during our time off. I want to talk conspiracy theories. Rome. We talk controversy. Our old show controversy segment. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:06] Speaker C: Your Lakers got the most lopsided trade in NBA history. Was it rigged that. Hey, we send Luke over to LA, and the Mavericks get the first overall pick in the draft with, like, 0.09 chances of getting it. And Nico Harrison gets saved out of nowhere. Was this orchestrated from the front? [00:28:28] Speaker B: You know, I. I forgot about that. [00:28:30] Speaker C: It. [00:28:30] Speaker B: It really pissed me off, actually. It's infuriating because. [00:28:36] Speaker A: Because now. I mean, look, it's a fabulous trade now for Dallas. [00:28:43] Speaker C: I mean, you get. You get the number one overall pick, you get Anthony Davis, which. Whatever's left of his prime. I don't know. [00:28:52] Speaker A: I mean. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I think Cooper Flag is really, really good and he's gonna be like the next superstar. So if he's as good as advertised and he's like the next, you know, hopefully Ant can like, claim that before Flag does. But nah, man, it's not gonna be good. I'm not. I'm not liking it at all. [00:29:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, Dallas. Dallas definitely got bailed out. You know, someone did it. [00:29:16] Speaker B: Someone did. A. And analysis, by the way. Every time there's like a big trade that happens, that team that gives up that superstar player, they always happen to win the number one pick in the draft the following year. [00:29:27] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. [00:29:28] Speaker B: It's happening time and time again, and it's just like, it can be a question. [00:29:31] Speaker A: It almost happened. San Antonio almost got the first pick again. Could you imagine Flag with Wimby? Oh, dude, I mean, we're talking about AD. I mean, that's already. But, you know, how much more does he have left? And then you got. Kyrie's going to be out till what, January? [00:29:46] Speaker B: Yeah, they're gonna. [00:29:49] Speaker A: I think they're gonna. I actually think they're gonna do the Lakers a favor and trade Gafford to the Lakers. That's who's going to be there. One of their big guys. I think, you know, Nico's gonna throw. Throw your boy Rob Polinka bone and say, here, have Gafford. I don't need them no more. I got Cooper Flag. But honestly. Yeah, honestly, I'll straight up give you a take. I. I would trade Lucas. I would trade Lucas straight up for Cooper Flag. Screw the other guys. I would just do that straight by itself. The salary implications. Cooper Flag is going to be better than Luca and you're saving money and you get out of that contract. Yeah, he's. He's going to be better, possibly. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Let's not go there yet. It's gonna be pretty epic, man. I. I can't believe that happened, though. We'll see. What's the draft? [00:30:32] Speaker C: It's right after the finals, right? Isn't it, like, probably two weeks after. [00:30:36] Speaker A: Maybe a week. Maybe a week. [00:30:39] Speaker B: Someone was throwing around like, these trade rumors. Like, oh, these are trades that Dallas could not, like, entertain, at least for the number one pick. And I was like, starting to peruse. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Well, they already. They already said they're not moving the pick. [00:30:51] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, the only way is if Cooper Flagg doesn't go to the draft for some random reason, which I don't think is happening. [00:30:58] Speaker B: You know, he looked really disappointed when the when, when Dallas won the first. [00:31:02] Speaker A: Pick, I think he's shocked. Honestly. [00:31:04] Speaker B: He's like. [00:31:05] Speaker A: I think, I think when he probably thought of possible destinations, he was looking at dc, Utah, maybe Philadelphia. Philadelphia was in the mix. I think they got the third pick and you end up in Dallas, which nobody's, nobody saw coming. I mean the celebration that Nico and those guys had, I mean all those people that basically brought the coffins and buried Nico, they're, they're begging for tickets now and they got to pay the 8% increase cost because now they're going to sell out again. [00:31:35] Speaker C: I will tell you, we're bearing Rome Aaron on this whole Lakers thing, but I don't have the stats in front of me that there was, there was something though that the Bulls beating the Lakers on that half court shot. If they wouldn't have hit that shot and won that game, the Bulls actually would have been in the draft position where the Mavericks were. It would have gotten the first overall pick. [00:32:01] Speaker A: Thank you LeBron, for throwing that game away. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Yeah, well, thanks. [00:32:05] Speaker A: Go ahead, go ahead and drop Ronnie again. Lakers. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll take a quick break. Brian's actually playing pretty good. We'll take a quick break. We'll come back some NHL. All right, we are back this time to cover the Stanley Cup. Hell of a playoffs as well. I gotta admit I haven't watched too much, just mainly highlights. But I have been following Edmonton pretty closely since they beat the Kings. I thought the Kings should have won that series, but they've been on a roll since then. Taking care of the, the Vegas Knights 4 to 1. I, I really liked Vegas as well. Took care of them and then took care of Dallas in five games. So a couple of gentlemen sweeps. And Florida, man, they've had a couple tough series. First against Ottawa, then Toronto and then they took care of Carolina pretty easily in five games. But Jason, I'll revert to you if you want to give us a quick recap on the Stanley cup playoffs. What you think of Edmonton and Florida meeting again. This is the third time, right? Third year in a row. A couple little mini dynasties growing here. You got some, you got some rivalry like I, I think it's great for hockey to have this. [00:33:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Third year in a row for Florida. Second year for Edmonton. Back to back kind of the Stanley cup rematch. I'm not sure which pod got recorded and whatnot that. But I will say this has kind of been my feeling all along that there was going to be a Stanley cup rematch. Florida just, they were pacing their regular season similar to be their cross state rivals. Tampa Bay, who went on a good Stanley cup run you half a decade ago, won several cups and we're kind of doing the salary cap manipulation game where you put your players on injured reserve, they don't count against the cap and then you bring them back. [00:34:02] Speaker B: That's crazy how you do that. [00:34:04] Speaker C: Yeah. So Tampa was notoriously doing that during their run and Florida dipped into that this year. So coming out of, you know, the Four Nations Cup, Matthew Tkachuk was hurt, they put them on injured reserve and then they're able to kind of clear that money which allowed them, the Florida Panthers, that is to go get Brad Marchon from Boston, which is kind of one of their big rivals. And Marshawn just, you know, big all time player for the Bruins franchise had huge impacts in the playoffs. [00:34:36] Speaker B: It's, it's kind of like killing it. [00:34:38] Speaker C: I don't want to say it's. Yeah, I don't say it's like the, it's not like getting a Yankees Red Sox player to cross rivalries, but a little bit was because this Florida team really was in a rival against the Bruins. So you're getting, you know, one of your enemy's guys, you know that you're adding to basically be a third line, fourth line player that was kind of like a front line starter for Boston. And then, okay, cool, we'll add Kachuk and all these other guys back from intraser in the playoffs. So I just felt there was something there for Florida that hey, we got most of the core from last year and we're going to add a little more depth. And it just felt good. They vanquished the Tampa Bay in the first round. The most competitive series I was worried about was Toronto and I had some friends like talking like that. I was talking to him like, hey, if Toronto does anything, they choke when they should win. And that should have been Toronto series. Go ahead. [00:35:22] Speaker A: Toronto. What a, what a disappointment they were, man. I mean they got beat. What back to back home game, 6 to 1. Just embarrassed on home ice after winning the first two. [00:35:33] Speaker C: Utter, utter embarrassing. I think if you're looking at, if you're a non hockey fan, you can, you could probably pair Toronto to your Knicks because Toronto is supposed to be, you know, Toronto maybe the center of the hockey world. It's where the hockey hall of Fame's at, where the Stanley cup lives. But Toronto's had like, you know, was this the 40s since they won the Stanley Cup? It should be. They own hockey and they just don't Just like the Knicks is the mega, the mecca of basketball and they don't and Toronto, what they do, they just choke. And in that, in that final game, just Florida poured it on. And at that point you just knew Florida was going to make the run. They got to play the Hurricanes in the Eastern Conference finals. And they own the Hurricanes. Like just they, they swept them two years ago, I think it was to go. [00:36:14] Speaker A: And he doesn't own the Hurricanes in the Eastern Conference finals now. I mean they lost 15 straight, I think before they finally won game four. [00:36:22] Speaker C: Finally won a game. But yes, they, they are. You're just not good at the Easter Conference finals. Well, so, but yeah, Florida just inevitable to get there. I just felt like they just. There was kind of unbelievable depth. And that's even with Matthew Kachuk. Even though coming back had. Hasn't been great. You could tell he's not 100%. But hockey playoffs, we don't talk about injuries. You probably have a broken, you know, tibia and you're just going to still get out there and roll it. We'll talk about it after. So I think Florida just, they got their little mini dynasty right now. And then on the other side, Edmonton, I just think Edmonton has just had a sour taste in their mouth since last year and all season. I'm like, this team is pissed off. Leon Drai Seidl like had a terrible final last year and he is coming back with a big vengeance this year. McDavid best player in the world. You know, I, I was listening to another podcast where someone called him the best athlete in the world. No one wants to give hockey players the best athlete, But I think McDavid, what he does in the ice and how big and fast this guy is, is just at another level. And, and really it's just going to be. Can goaltending kind of hold up for them. It's always a hit or miss on the goaltending side For Edmonton, it's like shut out or they give up three or four goals, whatever it might be. [00:37:36] Speaker A: But they are too, they are too deep there. I mean they are too deep at goalie with Skinner and was it Pickard? [00:37:42] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. So, but, but, but Skinner's had some great games throughout there too, especially in that Golden Knight series. So, but I, I going into it, I think that it's been a great playoffs. I think the jets going back to other teams. Jets hugely disappointing. You know, Hellebuck just was not good. You know, in that, in that blue series was super questionable. They and go in seven games I was, I don't even know which podcast we talked about if that Blues Jets Game seven, double overtime, I think it went was incredible. But the jets were just spent after that first round. Pretty much got owned by the stars but. And like you Rome, I like the Golden Knights, but I think the Oilers were just inevitable. I think this was an editable final as much as there was other good teams. I'm really excited for this final just like we are for the NBA Finals because I think Edmonton really, even though they lost in game seven last year, when they came back and forced the game seven, there was just something down, right three one. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Or was it three zero three zero. That's right, three zero. [00:38:40] Speaker C: And then. And it came back to seven. Florida almost blew it, got the cup. But I think the motivation for Edmonton was like if they would have taken any of those early games, which they should have, they would have won last year. And I think they. I, I know or I'm saying I know. I think Edmonton knows they're better than Florida and they should have won last year. And Dry Seidl didn't play great and they're going to be a lot of people coming improve Florida, they're great and I'm not gonna do that. But with Kachuk not 100 and some other things, I, I think this is where you get the, you get the back and forth. Edmonton gets their revenge this year. But I think it's going to be a, it'll be a violent close series for sure. [00:39:17] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna agree. I mean it's been a interesting playoffs. I mean Florida, Toronto had them down 2 0. You go to game three, Florida comes back and wins in overtime. That game three they were looked like they were going to go up 3 0. Maybe that's why the Panthers got Brad Machon because now he is what I believe 560 in series is against Toronto, dating back to his days against Boston. So maybe he was a secret link there. Rome, you touched on it. Edmonton versus the Kings, they've eliminated them four straight years in round one, the Kings were up 2 0. Similar. We're about to go 3 0. We're about to sweep Edmonton. I mean they were the better team in that series. And then in the third period they just got destroyed. Kind of basically didn't play aggressive, played, you know, back on their heels. And Connor McDavid, dry saddle, all those guys came through, got it going. We're not even talking about the legend Corey Perry. I mean what he's doing. This is what his six final Stanley cup final in the last five years. He wanted back the cup there of the Ducks. He's looking to get it going there again. And I agree with Jason too that Edmonton last year, I think they were a little tense, a little nervous getting to the cup for the first time. Florida had that the year before. They came in more loose, they came in, skated faster, got the cup. I agree. I think it's a tough physical series, but I think Edmonton's depth gets them and Connor McDavid their first Stanley cup in a while. I am worried, you know, of Zach Hyman going out with that injury. That kind of hurts them. He's been one of their physical enforcers in these playoffs. He's been good. But I, I think Edmonton with McDavid dry, Seidle Skinner, he might give up five goals, two games, but he'll do shutouts the other ones. I, I like Edmonton in six. [00:40:58] Speaker B: Well, like Edmonton right now they kind of remind me, I guess we're gonna do the NBA parallel okc, be on the ropes, you know, against Denver, you finally need to be put on, on the edge. Then finally like something clicks and, and then you wake up and then you're on a vengeance. And Jason, you know that they're definitely on Avengers because they've been on a tear since then. One thing I found interesting, when they both won their conference championships respectively, Florida did the same that they did last year, right? They did not touch the trophy because a year prior they did and they lost. So now they're still not touching trophy. Edmonton's like it, we're, we're doing everything to enjoy this ride. I, I, I, I find the, the different like superstitions really interesting for any. [00:41:36] Speaker A: Well, Edmonton I believe did not touch it last year, did not win it. So they're doing the reverse kind of what Florida did the year before, the reverse. [00:41:43] Speaker C: So yeah, yeah, for Edmonton it's interesting. Hockey, Hockey on the, compared to the other major professional sports has this almost nation rivalry within it too. And even though Edmonton, you know, may have a rivalry with Calgary or Vancouver, Toronto and stuff, there is a Canada versus US kind of parallel with this and Canada, no franchise in Canada has won the Stanley cup since 93 with a Montreal Canadiens. So there's a little bit of like, there's a little bit of the whole country is behind Edmonton at this point because you're going against the team from the Sunshine State where there's no ice, who has been to three states Stanley cup finals at this point too. So I know you know, Canada's probably pissed. They. They hated us in the. The Four Nations Cup. They hated us for probably political reasons at a certain thing. I think all. All Canada wants is to take home the Stanley Cup. And really, if you think back to the glory days of Gretzky in the 80s and where Edmonton, you know, holds a place in kind of hockey lore. And from. From a David standpoint, this guy's trying to be one of the greats of all time. And when you're one of the greats, you have to win a championship at least once. And I think this, you know, at least it's the last thing on his resume that he doesn't have, as he kind of tears through the record book because when we. We celebrated Alexander Ovechkin through the entire year and what he's done, scoring and everything, but there would have been question marks on Ovechkin if he didn't pull that one Stanley cup on. Now no one cares because he won the one Stanley Cup. McDavid gets this seals his legacy. He can win more in the future, but got to get the one and then he really cements who he is. [00:43:21] Speaker B: I have a quick question, Jason, for you. What's goals in high danger zone? What does that mean, really? [00:43:30] Speaker C: I'm gonna be honest. I have zero idea. [00:43:34] Speaker B: Looking at stats for like both the teams. I want to talk about it. [00:43:37] Speaker C: I'm guessing, I'm guessing it's in the slot. [00:43:41] Speaker B: Well, it. Well, I. Both teams were different. They're both lead the league, but I guess Edmonton's tops in league for like high danger shots on goal, whereas Florida Panthers are first in league goals in high dangerous shots. And I'm just like, what is that? I. I didn't get a chance to research it. I just have like a note here, my notepad, but that's all. I. And never. [00:44:01] Speaker A: I've never heard high danger zone shots. [00:44:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I. I'll be honest. I have not either. So you stun me on that. That one room. I thought you were gonna ask what is goals against average? And I would say, hey, that's the amount of goals that a goalie averages giving up in a game. But yeah, you're going a little more too. [00:44:18] Speaker B: Rome too. That's too bad. [00:44:20] Speaker C: Apparently Rome's time off. He was also crunching hockey analytics at the same time too, which we did not know. [00:44:25] Speaker A: So. [00:44:25] Speaker B: So funny thing, I. I told Aaron the other day, I was. I was at a. As a. At a function. All I had time for was like looking at analytics and numbers. So I Was already looking at NFL stats before this season started and kind of got so stuck in like probabilities and wins and added value. Yeah. So pretty funny. Who do you guys got? Who's gonna take it all? [00:44:52] Speaker C: We kind of spoiled it a little, but I'm gonna take Edmonton in 6. [00:44:56] Speaker A: Agree. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Aaron. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Edmonton and 6. [00:44:59] Speaker B: 6 is such a safe number. Yeah, I agree as well. [00:45:03] Speaker A: I mean. [00:45:04] Speaker B: I mean, I can see it going seven, though. And Marshawn maybe take taking a. [00:45:09] Speaker A: Depending, depending on how it goes, depending how well Edmonton playing, they might be able to get him out of there in five. But I think it goes six or seven. [00:45:18] Speaker B: That'd be kind of cool to see too. I wouldn't mind that. [00:45:21] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, Florida's got, like Jason said, they got four lines, they're solid, they got a lot of depth, but they're kind of banged up. Edmonton's been just playing really, really well. Dry Seidle, I mean, he's scoring. Perry, I mentioned he's got six, seven goals. He's playing well. I mean, Hyman's injury kind of worries me a bit. But then you got Evander Kane. Zero games from the regular season. He's been a stud in these playoffs. And then Skinner, I mean, he either gives up nor goals or he gives up five, so. And then they got pickered. Who can come in, who basically got him through because Skinner was terrible against the Kings. They had to pull him. Then he gets hurt, you know. Game two, I believe it was against Vegas there against the Knights, they brought Skinner back. Game three, he gave up what, four or five goals? That's the only game they lost in that series. But since then he's really been. He's been lights out. He's been great. I mean, Dallas was able to steal a game when they scored what, five goals in that third period. When they got three power play goals in like six minutes, they would have got swept. I mean, Dallas was clearly not on Edmonton's level. So I like Edmonton here in six. [00:46:21] Speaker B: Nice Stanley cup finals start Wednesday, Friday, Monday. I'll be able to catch all the games this time. It's kind of sweet. [00:46:29] Speaker A: I'm kind of digging that on tnt, by the way. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you like the coverage on tnt? [00:46:35] Speaker C: I do, yeah. Yeah. TNT does hockey really well. I'll say. Both ESPN and TNT do it very well. I've like. I have liked the split in the hockey coverage. I think they both have pretty solid studio shows. I think just TNT is kind of able to expand on what they did with the NBA and now the NBA going away. I think that is their pretty much premier sports property that they're gonna have right now. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Yeah, me and Aaron were actually talking about the NBA on tnt, and it's like, it's really confusing of how what's going to go down next year and it's still like, up in the air. It's really weird. [00:47:07] Speaker C: I mean, I mean, it's not in the air. It's like, I mean, they're just going to be leasing the show. It's just, it's just a production show that's going to be on espn. So I. I don't know. I saw, I saw your man, Bill Simm. His hot take was that ESPN's gonna mess up that studio show. But I disagree because I think these guys are going to be down in Atlanta doing this show, being rogue, probably talking crap about espn. [00:47:29] Speaker A: They already are talking crap about them. [00:47:30] Speaker C: So it's like, I honestly think it's gonna be entertaining as hell as long as the ESPN management doesn't say nothing. But I mean it. I think this goes into a longer trend. I know I'm getting off topic here, but ESPN at this point, like, they make a little less original content and hey, we're just gonna go buy the content. They buy McAfee, they're gonna buy this. You know, it's like, hey, something's popular, we'll buy it, put it on and like, and whatever, we'll worry about it later. It probably lowers some of the costs and everything that they have to do. And they already know, hey, it's already know. It's popular and it has an audience. [00:48:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I caught Dan Patrick earlier today. He's saying, like, you know, ESPN is not about journalism anymore. It's more about personalities and, and hot takes. And that's just the way it is. [00:48:10] Speaker A: I think. I think a lot of shows that TV production shows are going hot takes for over journalism. I mean, Stephen A. Smith, that's. That's what's gotten him $20 million a year. He just basically goes on there and rants about how bad the Knicks are playing defense and he can't take it anymore. Then he storms off, they go to commercial. [00:48:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I would say they're definitely not about journalism because you're probably more alluding to the. Around the horror conversation. And, you know, that was that also what happened over. You're there around the horn. Around the horn going off the air, which definitely was, you know, something of our era, especially for us in high school, getting off, getting out of school, watching around the horn PTI love it, man. That was, that was the thing. It was great bringing back memories and watching that episode. But at the same time, I'll say they haven't been about journalism for a while, but I, I would say they're about hot takes. But really ESPN got back to their core. Business is like, hey, we're just buying sports and we're gonna have every event possible on. And you can't have mall be, you know, all games all the time. But they probably put as many games as possible and then have some of studio attachments with there that accompany the property. But like, I mean, I would say it's just, they're just generating content and just where people, personalities that have audiences or shows that are popular, hey, we'll buy that and put that around, around our content. [00:49:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I expected Inside the NBA to remain the same. I don't think, I don't think ESPN is really going to get involved and say anything. I mean, the show's been going since 89. It blows their ratings out of the water. People want to see it. I mean, obviously it's big enough to like we've been talking about ESPN bought it, said, hey, keep all your producers, keep all your writers, keep everything the same. Stay in Atlanta, record out of the Turner Studio, do what you want to do. I mean, these guys have been bashing ESPN for the past year. I mean, Shaq Charles, you know, basically calling Kendrick Birkins a dummy. You know, Barkley saying, or Shaq saying, hey, we're not around, we're coming, we're going to kick your ass. We're already better than you. So shut the upper and record our show and put it on your network because you guys suck. That's basically what they're telling them. [00:50:10] Speaker B: They said on the second to last episode. [00:50:12] Speaker C: I, I, the, the one, the one hidden thing I want about this is like I, if they're, if there, there should be, there can be an entertaining thing on there. We're just like, I think they could do a whole inside joke about this where like Stephen A's trying to get on the show and they just never will put him on. Just like him pleading to be on the show and just like them just talking crap like, I don't want Stephen A on that show at all. But I think there's a good gimmick there where just like he's begging and pleading to be on the show because he needs to be on every show and they just keep him away. I think there's some good content there for Charles to just talk a lot of crap, honestly. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Basically recording a video zoom where he's begging and then they're throwing a clip on there with him just begging. Yeah. All right. [00:50:53] Speaker B: Come on, Charles. You gotta put me on. Charles. [00:50:56] Speaker A: Charles, come on, man. We go back, brother. We go back. You know, I would have liked to have seen. I'm glad the NHL's got, you know, on TNT, but I would have liked to see actually. I know it never happens, the NBA, since it's TNT's last year, to actually give them the NBA Finals coverage and let their studio team and their announcers do it versus Mike Breen and those guys. They do a fine job, but I think that would have been a nice, even better send off than just getting the. The Eastern Conference final. [00:51:21] Speaker C: ABC paid that money, man. They ain't giving it. [00:51:23] Speaker A: I know they weren't gonna do it, but I know they weren't going to do it. But I, I would prefer to see it, but it's all money at the end of the day, so. And TNT is not going to, you know, reimburse him on it. [00:51:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess we'll see how it turns out. Charles Barkley was on Dan Patrick earlier, so he was talking about, like, how they might be on just like once a week, but they still have their own TNT show to do, but without highlights. So they're still trying to figure that out. So that's why I was like on top of mine. I was like, how, what. What's going on there? [00:51:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I think they'll figure it out, but at the end of the day, like, if ESPN just wants viewers, you're gonna throw this on. People gravitate with the NBA and where it goes. It's better there than. I mean, I don't think it's been talked about, but you know, NBC is obviously the other portion of it. And I think Prime. [00:52:05] Speaker B: I'm really curious how NBC's gonna do because I missed NBA on NBC. That's like, for me, they're gonna have. [00:52:11] Speaker C: The Round Ball Rock with John Tash, you know, that rocking. And I guess they have Jordan out there. We're giving some takes, apparently that he's gonna be on probably. Who knows? I mean, if you can get him away from the NASCAR track, man, generally he's over there with the 23 racing over there, you know, down in, you know, North Carolina or whatever, where the race is for this weekend. But it, it'll be interesting. But I think overall there's some good stuff bringing that studio show to espn and I think it just. The NBA will be very interesting next year with the new broadcast partners. [00:52:43] Speaker B: For sure, man, it's gonna be different. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we will talk some racing and anything else that we missed. All right, we are back for a third segment sourced from the sofa. We're going to talk a little racing this time as There has been three F1 races since we last aired. I think we had a lost episode as well. Jason, as I mentioned earlier in the pod, he was at the Indy 500 and then we'll plug in some premier league too for the final. But I don't know, Jason, why don't you talk, tell us how was the Indy 500? Because that looked pretty cool. [00:53:25] Speaker C: Ah, the greatest spectacle in motor racing, man. You just talk about 350,000 people descending on the state of Indiana and Indianapolis. Incredible event. The pomp and circumstance of the pre race Rome. I don't know if there's a sporting event where you do. God bless America, America the beautiful and the national anthem and back home again in Indiana, like I'm telling you, we're, we're pumping out everything like a concert over there. [00:53:58] Speaker B: That's a lot. [00:53:59] Speaker C: Did we get the patriotic feels of flyovers. But then we also had a Blackhawk helicopter going over the field of 33 as they made their way on the 2 1/2 mile track. So I mean just the, the pre race festivities of the Indianapolis 500 was just unbelievable for me. Brought back the childhood memories. I had gone to 10 plus or so Indy 500 starting back to when I was an infant, all the way up to my God damn. Yeah, back in the day, man, we. [00:54:28] Speaker A: Run it runs in his blood. [00:54:30] Speaker C: Rome runs in my blood. I was there, second row from the track, I think Rome. You saw some of the videos. Just feeling those cars going past you at 238, 340 miles an hour. Just incredible stuff. Yeah, there was so many interesting things about that race. Number one was the weather. You know, you figure it's May here in Southern California, it's like 95, 100 degrees. I go to Indiana and it's 65 and about to rain. So looking at the forecast, look at the forecast every day, man, I thought I was going to be wearing shorts and a T shirt on this. Had to wear the jeans and bring a rain jacket like I was going to England last year for the British Grand Prix. So had to have. That was clear, was clear skies, no rain, a little cloudy. But right about 30 minutes before the race started, the clouds Started to set in a little more and it started a bit of a sprinkle. And they delayed the race 45 minutes. Got the race finally started after about 45 minutes to an hour. They kept the drivers in the car on the front stretch, which was very interesting because damn, like I'm gonna sit inside this car just waiting with my helmet on and everything. [00:55:40] Speaker B: That blows. [00:55:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Finally got the thing going. We're doing the parade lap and Scott McLaughlin, who races for team Penske, spins out on the parade lap and crashes into the wall. So before we even get the race started, we had a car out and the pole sitter basically got three laps led because, okay, we didn't even do the official start of the race because someone now rome your Indy 500 history. I was there. Arguably my favorite Indy 500 of all time, 1992, same thing happened. The pole sitter, Roberto Guerrero spun out on the parade lap on the back strap and crash had the pole spun out. Never even started the race. So it happened before. Same weather conditions was in the 60s, was rainy, so the tires too cold, track cold, not getting any, you know, friction with the rubber down. That's what kind of was really the cause of it. And with that conditions, we had a lot of early cautions with some wrecks and stuff. Guys just couldn't get it going. But finally the race kind of took form of its own. And Alex Palou going into that race had won four out of the five for races of the season on the Indy car schedule, was able to win the Indy 500. Was the only missing thing from his resume. Resume. He's a three time series champ. Well on his way to become a four time series champ. Was an incredible, incredible race cars kind of went out. You. We had team Penske comedy of errors. We didn't get to talk about it but in the pre race a week prior in qualifying, you had two Penske cars disqualified during qual during qualifying and were sent to the back of the field. And Roger Penske team owner, fired the entire upper leadership of Penske Racing because of this basically second major rules violations for this team. And I don't want to get into a whole thing because we got a long racing segment here. But if you know Roger Penske owns not just the IndyCar team, he owns a NASCAR team. Roger Penske owns IndyCar itself. He owns the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. So when you talk about conflict of interest, you have the owner of the racing series, his team having illegal cars on the, on the grid, which caused quite the controversy stir. So when we talk about conspiracy theories in the NBA which I was throwing out there gladly. A lot of conspiracy theories in the motorsports world as you have the owner of the series's cars cheating so. Which is why he was so equipped in firing the president of Penske IndyCar Racing. Pretty much everyone knew involved with the illegal kind of part they had in their wing. And it didn't stop there for them. They had. Joseph Newgarden was the two time defending IndyCar or Indy 500 champion. He was going for the three peat. Would have been the first in Indy 500 history. He made his way. He started the back because he was obviously disqualified in qualifying. Made his way up from 32nd place, got all the way into the top 10 and then lost fuel pressure on the fuel pump and was out of the race. The McLaughlin car I mentioned he crashed in the in the early parts. And then the third car end up having so Penske cars which are generally dominant. Indy weren't there but Alex Palo was able to pull that thing for Chip Ganassi Racing Rome you mentioned Kyle Larson, NASCAR series champion. Really the racers racer. This guy races anything. It was the second consecutive year he was attempting to do the 1100 double. For those wondering that is racing the Indianapolis 500 mile race then flying to Charlotte and racing the NASCAR Coca Cola 600. It has been done several times. I think 11 different times. Only one person in history has done all 1100 laps and that was Tony Stewart. Finished top three in at Coca Cola 600 and top six at the Indy 500 in the same year. It's the only person to do it. An incredible result. It was dope. Kyle Larson, one of the best drivers in the world really will drive anything. Didn't have a great May with the IndyCar. He wrecked several times in the practices. Wrecked again at the Indy 500 and then went flew down to Charlotte and wrecked at the Coca Cola 600 in the beginning. [00:59:47] Speaker B: Right very. [00:59:48] Speaker C: He got out early in the Coca Cola 600 and then you know lost it and got into the wall. So it was. It was not what we were expecting for. I was definitely cheering him on. I think he is one of the best drivers. But this does. This guy just wants to race anything and just the result wasn't there. I know he said like he's kind of done doesn't want to do this again. If he does Indy again. It's kind of his post NASCAR career where he can kind of dedicate himself to the craft. But definitely was. Was rooting for that but didn't happen so but ultimate ultimately I think this was incredible event. I look forward to going again. Had a great time with my family. Just, just amazing experience. Just kind of feeling that, you know those cars going past you. [01:00:30] Speaker B: Love it, man. Love the recap. Thanks for that. Let's switch to F1. I think since we were last in the pod, the lost pod, I think we covered Miami. That was definitely lost when Piastri took that one. Nora's second and then Russell Emilia, Romania. That was in the middle of May. Verstappen pulls out the victory. Norris second, Piastri third. Monaco, my guy Norris pulls out the victory. Le Cleric gets second, Piastri third. So McClarc is just always in the top three, it seems like in every race. And then this past weekend Piastri wins again. Like how many. This must be like a lot of wins, right? [01:01:13] Speaker A: Like is it normal for what's his fifth win? [01:01:19] Speaker B: So they asked you first, Norris is second, again fourth. [01:01:21] Speaker A: Or is this like. [01:01:22] Speaker C: I think it's just fourth this year. But yeah, the McLarens ultimately coming out of this are just that they're just dominant. And one of these two guys between Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri is going to win the driver's championship and the team's going to win the constructors. I think that's the most foregone conclusion that you've come out in this. And the Spain race, Rome, I don't think this was in any of the lost episodes. But the Spain race was going to be this big thing because the rules were changing on the front wing and this was supposed to limit what the flexi wing was kind of called stupid, right? He did say it was stupid. Basically it was an entire waste of money because all the teams basically had to invest all this time in changing it and it didn't do anything because the McLarens were even faster this week and just totally just torched the field. They were thinking this was something the McLarens had an advantage over everyone and they didn't. The cars were even better and even more dominant. So I think what we know on the F1 season so far is that McLaren has the best car. They're going to have the best car when the constructors back to back years. But now it's going to be a two headed race for teammates on the driver's championship between Lando and Oscar Piastri. And I'll say the emotions are kind of everywhere over these three races. So when you go back to Italy for what's probably the last race at Imola, this is kind of the last time they'll be doing that track on the circuit. And then you know, Max Verstappen was fairly dominant in that race beginning to end. But Lando was able to kind of overtake Piastri in that as Piastri kind of going and had the points lead. Then you get into the, into Monaco and then Norris was able to have this dominant win. And I think going into the last pod we were talking about, hey, Piastri at this point is going to own this driver's championship. Lando doesn't put some results together because he's just not, he's not collecting the wins. He's not getting that aggression. So the dominance in qualifying that Piashi has had wasn't there. And Lando was able to get that in Monaco which is basically it's the glitz and glamour race but it's the boringest race out of the year where there's no passing even the two Aaron and I were texan. The two pit stop guaranteed didn't do crap. It basically was the same result. [01:03:26] Speaker A: It basically just delayed what we already knew was going to happen. Whoever won pole was going to win that race. [01:03:30] Speaker C: And Piastri wasn't great at Monaco either. That was the other thing where it's like it was the first race. So like he did, even though he finished third, he wasn't great. And then it was kind of like, okay, where's it going with Lando? Does he find his mojo? It's a super tight race now. We get into Spain, the flexi wings there, the McLarens are dominant and you know, Piastri gets a good start, gets the lead checks out. There we go. Verstappen had always one of the best, you know, starts gets ahead of Lando, Lando eventually overtakes him. Verstappen's running this three stop strategy that no one else is running. So he's going back tearing up through the field. I was talking to a guy today and he's like, I was a pretty, pretty boring race until the last six laps and I know if we're skipping to the end here and then that's, that's where it kind of went off the rails where we had a late caution. Caution because Kimi Antonelli's engine blew up again. We'll get to that with the crappy Mercedes. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah. What's going on with Mercedes, man? Let's get into it now. What is going on? [01:04:29] Speaker C: I don't. I'll tell you generally when you're in the last year of specs for you know, engine. Everything around comes to the technical regulations of the sport. Engines usually don't blow in modern F1, but now we're in the last year of specs, and Mercedes is blowing engines left and right. And it is very concerning, I think, for what's going on at Mercedes, because this is the engine supplier that's the blowing engines right now. So very interesting. I don't know, Aaron, but not. Not good for. For that team. [01:05:00] Speaker A: And basically, yeah, I mean, like, the last three or four races, I mean, they're always checking Russell's car. Like, hey, a battery pack is going out. This is going out. Kim at the afternoon, he's, you know, basically just cruising and goes into the gravel. Oh, his engine went out. Yeah. Mercedes got a lot of problems going for them right now. [01:05:17] Speaker C: They do. Which is. Which is extremely interesting because, I mean, mclaren's driving Mercedes engines, but they don't seem to have a problem with it. But the. The manufacturer themselves, a little bit of an issue is especially I think this is the second out of third race. Kimi's car is blown up because he blew up in Italy, too, which was. Was his home race. So, yeah, I don't know what's going on there. They've basically regressed back to the pack in the constructors for second place, which has turned out to be a pretty interesting race. But going back to these final six laps, though, you had Kimmy blow the engine. We get the field all bunched up. You get piastri and Norris. Everyone decides to go pit. They're getting the. Whatever final tires you have. Verstappen and the red bull team put on hard tires, which is basically the tire you did not want to have. [01:06:02] Speaker A: Why pit there, Jason? I mean, you got the hard tires, which. That sucked all week. And everybody knew they did. Why was this and not just keep going with. I think they were on the mediums. [01:06:10] Speaker C: I believe they were on the mediums. They were a little worn. I forgot how many laps they had on them. I wouldn't say it wasn't a ton. I think at that point, I questioned it, too. Because you knew you were going to get passed by piastri and norris. Okay. But if you would have stayed out, at least he would have had the jump eventually. Get passed by the mclarens in a couple laps and probably still secures the third. But by going in, stays in third, gets LeClaire right on you with a. With an inferior tire. And it's exactly what happened is that he was in third on the restart before they even got to the start finish line. He lost the rear end, lost all things. LeClaire was on him basically and passed him well. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Went to the soft and just. Yeah, I just blew right by him. Blew right by him. [01:06:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Because I think it was. It was a U soft too is from qualifying or something. So it was a very poor strategy. I think Red Bull there was a lot with a lot we'll say about Verstappen, but I think it was poor Red Bull strategy. You're Aaron number one. Why pit at all? Stay on there, let the McLarens pass you. @ least buy some time where you're at because Verstappen's a hard pass as is. But then you get back into this restart. LeClaire passes Verstappen at the same time. LeClaire's passing Verstappen. Russell goes and dive bombs in at the same time too questionable from Russell, 100% there. But then Red Bull tells Verstappen to give the place back, which is what caused basically the Mad Max incident where, okay, he's going to let Russell by Rome. Did you see this at all? [01:07:35] Speaker B: I only saw highlights. [01:07:37] Speaker C: Okay, well, what happened is the Red Bull team bosses say, hey, give Russell the place back because they're in fear. [01:07:42] Speaker A: That I didn't think he owed him this place. I thought the position was Verstappen's. [01:07:47] Speaker C: I thought so too. I think it was borderline. And the only reason was even borderline, I'll be honest, is because this is the Max Verstappen rule. It's dive bombing in pushing your guy out and then saying like, ah, he didn't give me the space because that's what Russell did. So it was such a Verstappen move by Russell and these two already freaking hate each other to begin with. [01:08:04] Speaker A: Yeah, that's going. Going back to Vegas and everything last year. Yeah, these two did not like each. [01:08:09] Speaker C: Other, so they already hate each other. And so I didn't think he needed to give it back. But Red Bull's being conservative, knowing because of the backs Verstappen rule, he may have to give it back. So they're making Verstappen give it back to Russell. They go into this turn, it appears he's giving him back. And then Verstappen seemingly just rams into Russell as he's making the pass. I don't know, to prove a point like, hey, I'm still here or whatever, gets a 10 second penalty that drops him from fourth to 10th and then just storms off when the race is over and it Was. It was vintage, I think Max Verstappen, because it's been crazy. I know you guys are a little new to F1, but this was Verstappen's MO during the 2021 famous duel between Verstappen and Hamilton. There was a, there was a race, I think Silverstone, where basically Verstappen crashed into Hamilton and took them both out of the race. So he had this reputation of like, if I'm going, I'm taking you with me type thing. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Oh. [01:09:02] Speaker C: And when Verstappen started having the dominant Red Bull the past couple years and he's just, you know, 20, 30 seconds above everyone, he had the better car. Didn't matter. Everyone's like, oh, Verstappen has changed. No, he didn't change at all. He just didn't have to be aggressive and be one on one with people. He had the better car. So now that he's right there, I think a little bit of the old Max or what the real Max is. [01:09:24] Speaker B: Is like, hey, real Max. The Mad Max. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Mad Max, Mad Max madman is back. [01:09:30] Speaker C: So he's back. It was, it had some drama. I think if you look at the, the Cooldown room, some of those are super entertaining. And this one was too. [01:09:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:39] Speaker C: You had Piastri, leclair and Norris in that cool down room. And what I love about them is they'll show the race highlights and in F1, okay, there's about 10 things that happen. So they're the highlights. They showed that clip and all three of the drivers like, look at each other, like, what the. This is what happened. And then Lando is just like, I've done that before. I did that in Mario Kart and I'm just like dying, bro. Just like. And just like, you know, they could, they couldn't like, help resist of like, what the hell is this guy doing? Because it's just like pure comedy of like, hey, this guy took a. A 10 second penalty, dropped him from 4th to 10th in the race. It was just utter insane. I think three weeks of F1, I think what we learned, basically McLaren dominant, but we're going to have a battle between Piastri and Norris and it'll be interesting how the team plays it because it's going to really come down to Saturdays and for them to understand their own fate going into Saturday to get the favorable, basically strategy is who gets the poll or who's the head is going to get the favorable strike. Because generally in F1, whoever the. Has the better qualifying position gets the priority strategy. So this is where Lando, I think, has been losing the pasture a little bit. Has been on the qualifying. And that's where he went up to him in Monaco. A little bit better, obviously in Italy, but, but, but Spain was where Oscar kind of shined. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Oscar was really good in Spain. He was really good. Both qualifying practice. He was really fast. I mean, yeah, Verstappen going back to him even before this safety car came out. Remember when. When they were. I think he was behind Lando there he was in third. Remember they were trying to pass. He was trying to pass a couple guys who they were lapping. And he got real pissed because they almost had a collision there. And kind of in his way. And you could see him kind of like waving them off like, you idiots, what are you doing? So he had a lot of buildup going into that pit. And then immediately you heard him right there on the intercom like, dude, like, are we in the hard tires? We do on the hard tires. And then boom, like, Charles just came out past him. You got Russell. And then like you said that, you know, basically lap goes by like, Max, you got to get the. You got to give the position back to Russell. [01:11:39] Speaker C: What? [01:11:40] Speaker A: What? You know, he's just going off. [01:11:43] Speaker C: I liked he like basic. I. I was still confused at this moment. I. I still think he thought Russell hit him from. Russell LeClaire hit him from behind. [01:11:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:51] Speaker C: And why he lost the back end. And I'm like. And I know LeClaire did hit him right after the start finish line in the front stress because Max was trying to push Charles right into all. Basically where all the. The used up rubber is off the racing line. And Max was trying to really push in the right. But LeClaire kind of stayed veering to get over to the racing line at. But I still think Max initially thought he lost the back end because he got hit. [01:12:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I believe. I believe he did say he got hit. Yeah, he's like, hey, he hit me. Push me off. Yeah, he said that. But yeah, I mean, he was even eager once the safety car went off. He almost jumped to pass Piastri before Piastri even got going. He was like. And then he had to stop. And like, yeah, he was just real eager. He was. He wasn't happy. I thought his comments after the race was basically like, hey, George, stop your crying. I'll bring you a box of tissue. You know, that's basically what he said. I think he came out on Instagram. I heard he apologized today and said there's no. No Room for that in racing. But yeah he was, he was heated and you know, again I don't, I think he gets podium, I think he gets third if they just stay on the medium tires like you said, they're both six laps left. [01:12:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:59] Speaker A: Ferrari and Charles would have made a good push maybe to catch him but it would have been tough. Obviously he would not have been in 10th and then I know Jason, we haven't even touched on this but he get, then he got three penalty points and now he's basically a point away from being disqualified from a race. So that would basically take him out of the driver's championship. I don't think he has much of a chance now. McLaren doing what they're doing but yeah. [01:13:19] Speaker C: Yeah I would assume structures cup, the. [01:13:21] Speaker A: Constructor cup is still, you know, debatable. They're still in it, they're still in it there. [01:13:26] Speaker C: I mean it's a three way for as much as I bash Ferrari the entire year. We'll get to more on where or my guy Lewis was at this weekend too but Ferrari's number two. Yeah. Ferrari's second right now. So it's interesting with Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull kind of where they're at because we just have some different results. [01:13:41] Speaker A: Claire's been on the podium twice in. [01:13:43] Speaker C: A row so he has been so I mean they've had, I don't think the car is great still. I think when you ask Lewis and somebody's in I still think he's getting the use of the car. I, I, this whole year for Lewis I was always going to question because there is a difference between driving the Ferrari versus the Mercedes he's had the whole time and it's the last year of these specs he didn't get a ton of time in it and so I still think there's some learning curve with, with Lewis in this car but they had, they had the second best car at the end of last year and so I thought always Ferrari was going to maybe challenge McLaren a little more but I don't think they have a shot. But I think you, you definitely have a three way race here between McLaren. I'm sorry Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull. But yo Yuki Tsunoda is basically doing nothing to help Red Bull at this point because it's all Verstappen on there. So happen more, more on him and it's, it's still we've talked about. It's crazy to me with the second Red Bull car how no one can drive what Verstappen drives in the second Red Bull because you got Isaac Hazer basically driving this, the, the racing bulls car. [01:14:39] Speaker A: He's been racing well though. Isaac Avery, he's been racing pretty well. He's got a couple top tens. [01:14:44] Speaker C: He's ninth in the points right now. [01:14:46] Speaker A: So like, I mean he's been racing good. [01:14:48] Speaker C: He is the sec. If you're gonna say this, he's the second best Red Bull driver. I think the fear for him is like because Yuki was having some good performances in that racing bulls car too. The expectations aren't as high, but there's something easier about driving that car versus where, you know, we talked about this before. That Red Bull car, the way it's set up for Verstappen on the edge, it just isn't there for some of these other guys because Yuki hasn't been great in qualifying just like Lawson wasn't. [01:15:11] Speaker A: And Hazard's been great Madman too, man. Him and Matt deserve to be racing both on the Red Bull, man. I mean that guy's, that guy's all over the track. [01:15:19] Speaker C: He is. I think it was Miami. He got into the Alpine and he's like, what's this guy here? I was like, he had the inside line, you just smashed into him. [01:15:27] Speaker A: But not only once, twice. But didn't he get him twice? He came back around and got him again. [01:15:33] Speaker C: He did. But yeah, it's, it was an interesting three set. I mean, yes, the Nico Hulkenberg for the Sauber. They've been basically the worst team on the grid the past couple years. They got a fifth place out of this. Actually passed Lewis on the last or next to last lap which was a crazy kind of result for them. So it's been interesting with some of these results and where the second drivers are at and where you're looking at from a team's perspective because you got Alpine right now last in the constructors. Aston Martin, who's been a solid fifth in the constructors the past several years, all the way down to ninth. Fernando Alonso in his home race, I think. I think he managed ninth after the penalties and stuff so was able to salvage something. But they, they've been pretty bad all year. So I think you have a very interesting bottom of the grid and these guys kind of getting some points. But man, it was a crazy three week sprint. Canada's up next in two weeks. I think you'll probably see Max have a more favorable performance at this track because it's not the same. But I see some similarities as that and the, and, and the in Imola for, for the, for that Italian Grand Prix race, a little bit of, got a long stretch, you know, some windy kind of turns. Low speed in some areas I think where the Red Bull could be, you know, a little more effective than what some of these high speed tracks that like, like Spain. Like there was some really high speed turns where the McLarens are able to make some distance out that I don't think the Red Bull was able to compete, Pete. So it'll be interesting but I think you're watching Lando versus Piastri every week and seeing where's the mess up going to be between these two guys because it's going to be a duel. [01:17:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So that was Piastri's fifth win of the season. The other four are split between Norris and Verstappen. They both won two a piece. And then yeah, McLaren running away, double the points. Almost over Ferrari Mercedes. [01:17:32] Speaker A: Now. What's going on? I, I've, I've briefly saw. Maybe you have more insight from the sources. What's going on with Lance Stroll? What's going on with the story there? I've heard, I've heard conflicting things that it's an old injury. I heard maybe he broke his hand basically going nuts after qualifying. What's, what's the real scoop? [01:17:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I heard some of those two. I, I think we'll go off what they said it was an old injury and that maybe was affecting some of old Lance's performance. But yeah, I, I don't know what you're doing there, Aaron, but I don't even think it was really gonna matter where he did the race or not because they weren't gonna score points with the car anyways. So. [01:18:12] Speaker A: But now, but yeah, but then they don't even get to replace them because. [01:18:17] Speaker C: So I, I think there's maybe some validity your second points at that point. Because if his hand injury was that bad, why do they allow him? Why do they. [01:18:25] Speaker A: I think his hand has been bothering him and I think he aggravated it doing some stuff he shouldn't have been doing there in the garage. [01:18:31] Speaker B: It's, it's quite possible he lost his temper. [01:18:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it's, it's possible. Which is crazy because I think you see from this guy doesn't show a lot of emotion when it comes to Spanish. No, he's Canadian. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:45] Speaker A: Is it gonna be ready for the Canadian Grand Prix? [01:18:47] Speaker C: That's, I mean, I mean that's what the prep was. But his, his dad owns the team so you know, just like he gets, he gets what he wants at this point. You know, he. He is secure in F1 because his dad. [01:18:57] Speaker A: So we're not. So we're not. So we're basically not going to get the true story until we really dig deep into this thing. [01:19:02] Speaker C: I don't know if you ever get the true story, because when your dad's a billionaire who owns Aston Martin, the story is what they said, Aaron. And I'm going to believe that. [01:19:10] Speaker A: Okay? I'm going to. I'm going to dig deep. I'm going to have the sources dig deep. [01:19:14] Speaker C: All right? Let's just dig deep. I think it won't matter. I think for Aston Martin, they said, I don't care about this season. And they have Adrian Newey, their, you know, guy. They paid millions upon millions upon millions or two over there designing the 2026 car. So I think there's. There's something to be said for that. I think they have just basically thrown the flag on the season and we're starting over next year. [01:19:33] Speaker A: I agree. I agree. And they didn't have a good weekend here at the Spanish. What happened with Williams? Team Williams, man. I mean, they. They've been racing well, but they did not race well this past week. [01:19:44] Speaker C: Yeah, really, really was weird because I. I know we've been touting Williams all season. James Vowels, I think just. I've been. I've been impressed with his approach. I know if you watch Drive to Survive, I think Christian Hoarder takes some shots at some of these guys like James Vowles, who are really like the kind of the engineer nearing nerds. They're not like swaggering team principals like Christian Hor or Gabriel, the guy for Alpine that's got all the controversy. And so Vowels, I think, really just understands, like, the details of the car and getting the car right and working within the resources they have. But, yeah, this is really was. It was an off week for them. Signs in his home Grand Prix, one of his worst qualifying efforts, Albon. They both lost wings in the start of the race, which. Which is. Which is kind of crazy. I think they just basically said, we're not giving you a third wing, Alex. Just retire the car at this point. So I think disappointing for them, but I think for the most part, when you're looking at Williams, they have locked up probably the fifth in the constructors because everyone above them is going to stay above them. And I don't think there's really a threat from behind. I think you'll constantly get this team, you know, being in the. You know, they'll probably be between 6 and 10 or you know, 6 and 12 and get some points at the bottom of the top 10 and continue to go. But yeah, I would say disappointing result for them. [01:21:00] Speaker B: Sweet. I think that wraps it up right? Three weeks, North Dakota, F1. We got a couple weeks break before the next race in Canada. [01:21:09] Speaker C: Yeah, we do. I mean it'll come out. It'll be a busy summer with Canada. And then you have Austria two weeks after that. Great Britain, where I was last year for the in Silverstone for the British Grand Prix. Belgium, some great tracks that are kind of coming up before the summer break at the end of July. So it'll be interesting where things are going and then, I don't know, you probably want to pay start paying attention to the driver market here at a certain point too because, you know, what does Red Bull do with the second seat? Are they going to extend Yuki Tsunoda? Is Isaac Hazer gonna have be enough impressive enough to take that seat permanently? They have a another young hotshot driver in Formula 2, Formula 3 and the red Bull stable that was going to be on his way up. So what's going to happen with Yuki and then what hasn't been announced yet and I don't know how long they're going to wait. Cadillac's F1 team still yet to announce drivers and some of their key stuff for their maiden voyage in the F1 circuit next year. So be interesting. I will give you Rome. The rumored names, which I think are extremely likely would be Sergio Perez and dropping the name. But he raced for Kick Sauber. He's Ferrari's reserve driver right now. The only Chinese F1 driver that was for Sauber last year. So a lot of rumors for those being the two guys for the Cadillac team, which to me makes a lot of sense because you would secure the Chinese market and I'm sure a bunch of Chinese sponsorships and Sergio Perez brings him all of Mexico and all the Mexican sponsorships that I think Red Bull was getting before. So with F1, it's not always being about the best driver in the world. It's do you have an entire nation of sponsors behind you that can contribute to your fund to secure your seat? [01:23:03] Speaker A: There you go, man. [01:23:04] Speaker B: Fair enough. Makes sense. [01:23:07] Speaker C: Joe Bland, you go around Joe Bland, you. [01:23:09] Speaker A: That's what it is. Maybe get one of those guys to come on this show part time and we get some of that sponsorship. Love going that way. [01:23:16] Speaker C: I mean, I think we got to find a drive. You know, you had Kylo Pinto, you know, in South America, basically that was kind of the thing that he, he kicked Jack Doohan out of his seat because you know, he was getting the, I think Argentina he's from. Yeah, they, they all the Marty from Argentina's Pain. [01:23:33] Speaker A: That's working. Look how that's working. At least you want to get 15th. [01:23:36] Speaker C: Yeah, at least that. [01:23:37] Speaker A: But yeah, this guy can't even get higher than us on the goddamn. [01:23:45] Speaker B: Cool. Let's transition real quick before we wrap up the pod. It's been really cool catching up on NBA hockey and out racing Champions League real quick. It was on this past Saturday, my first Saturday off in a very long time. It was really nice. Wasn't sure what to expect from the match. You had PSG against Inter Milan and it was an ass whooping, like an epic ass whooping for the ages. Biggest victory in Champions League history. The previous was by three goals. This eclipse. Four goals. [01:24:20] Speaker A: Four goals. [01:24:21] Speaker B: Four. [01:24:22] Speaker A: Yeah, this was five. [01:24:24] Speaker B: And they were all beautiful goals. I thought like the first couple were just like, you know, pretty basic this, you know, the guys at Andrew Milan kind of fell asleep on defense. But the last few, man, they were all epic. Nice in the corner in traffic. Beautiful passing. Aaron, I know you text me that you were watching the game, which kind of took me off guard. I was not expecting you to watch the game. [01:24:45] Speaker A: But I'm a big Champions League guy. I do follow it, man. I mean, yeah, as you know, Jason knows I, you know, I came up working in the construction, the field. All those guys were soccer guys. They got me in, you know, big Champions leagues guys. So I do follow it. You know, I'm not hardcore but yeah, I do watch Champions League final. I do keep an eye on it. Happy for psg. They're one of my teams I root for. They've been close for a while now. You know, they try to go over the top when they sign Messi Neymar, those guys. But now, you know, we talk about teams and other sports having depth. This is what PSG has. They have a lot of depth, a lot of team. They're really a team not star driven. And just like you said Bron, they pitted on Inter Milan 5, 0. Could have been 7, 8, 0 to be honest. I mean that was the most one sided soccer game I've seen in a while. [01:25:33] Speaker C: Yeah, you mentioned, you mentioned the, the team aspect of this. I'll be honest, I'm not following a ton of Champions League. I, I got into it when Bayern Munich was kind of rolling through but they got bounced there. I think it was in the quarterfinals. But PSG like you mentioned the names, the stars a couple years ago that they were getting with Neymar and they got Messi and I'm dropping, I'm dropping the name. Who did they let go that went to Real Madrid this last year, which basically was it. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I mean, they had three of the best players probably in the world. And Bape was, you know, seen as one of the best. Was rumored to leave PSG forever and go to Real Madrid and lose all three of these guys in the span, I think of 18 months. And then you deliver one of the best Champions League seasons in dominant fashion. Really from, I think pretty much all the way from January till now, they were just really a force and going through. So like you said, I don't know, is there parallels to the NBA? We're driving like the Oklahoma City Thunder. Like, hey, we just got the young core. No really big time star and we're just gonna really run through. [01:26:36] Speaker A: They seem more like Indiana to mean psg. [01:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Super young because they really don't have. [01:26:43] Speaker A: I mean, that, that one guy, I think he scored two goals. What is he, 19 years old? I. I don't know his name at the top of my head, but yeah, I mean, they talk. They got a great coach, manager, you know, he was part of that Barca team, that 1 in 13, 14, leading them. Just a really good team, man, a really good squad. Getting there. What they beat, I think they beat what Arsenal in the semi and Arsenal had a really good team. You know, I think Rome. I told you I would have liked to have seen Barcelona vs them, but Inter Milan beat them and that semifinal and that classic where they came back, scored and then in extra time, whatever, one. But Inter Milan was just outclassed from the beginning. I mean, you talked about the passing. It was pretty obvious to see 20 minutes in that this was going to be ugly. [01:27:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I, to be honest, like, once my Liverpool went out at the hands of psg, which I thought was, you know, going to the penalties, I. I totally checked out. So when I was told, I think. [01:27:39] Speaker A: Jason's the only one that likes penalties, right? He's the only one. That's for the penalty kicks. [01:27:43] Speaker C: Who doesn't like penalties, man, the drama. [01:27:45] Speaker B: I like it. I don't like it. [01:27:47] Speaker C: I don't like it. [01:27:50] Speaker B: Like five more feet out. [01:27:51] Speaker C: Hey, you play two games, it's locked up. We don't need any more. Let's. Let's get the goal. Let's get the goalies. [01:27:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, No, I get it. [01:28:01] Speaker A: Hey, I Mean, you what, you watch. [01:28:03] Speaker C: The end of Mighty Ducks, right? Okay, I need the Charlie Conway, you know, drama shot. Triple deke. You know, that's, that's drama right there. That's pure sport. [01:28:13] Speaker B: I gotta rewatch the movie. I gotta watch. [01:28:14] Speaker A: I gotta go back and rewatch too. [01:28:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm sure there's a soccer reference I could have done. I can't remember a good soccer. [01:28:20] Speaker B: Remember the Big Green? [01:28:23] Speaker A: Yeah, the Big, Big Green's a good one. [01:28:25] Speaker C: I don't, I don't remember. I, I was gonna say Big Green, but I was like, are they gonna get on me for not saying Bennett like Beckham? Because I'll be honest, I never saw it. [01:28:31] Speaker B: I never saw that. [01:28:32] Speaker A: Never seen that one. But Big Green, I did see. [01:28:34] Speaker B: I, I did rewatch it with my daughter, like three years ago, and I was like, ah, this is, this is. [01:28:37] Speaker A: A very, I think it was sooner, but it felt like we were talking about Big Green like a year ago. Maybe it was three years ago. Time does go by fly, but no. [01:28:44] Speaker C: I, I'll tell you, the time to watch was during the pandemic when Disney plus pops up and you start watching the Big Green or. I introduced my wife to heavyweights. She had never seen heavyweights, and I. [01:28:54] Speaker A: Was heavyweight. [01:28:58] Speaker B: When I really got to fitness. People were referring me as Ben Stiller on that movie, and I'm like, what are they talking about? Okay, I totally get it. [01:29:06] Speaker C: My thing for heavyweights was the Ben Stiller character in Heavyweights. The Basically in the same character universe as his character in Dodgeball. [01:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah, basically. [01:29:16] Speaker C: It's the same guy. He just went over. [01:29:22] Speaker B: It's good stuff. [01:29:23] Speaker C: I'm going to, I, I, I don't want to get all, you know, off the, the sport with PSG right now, but given this was, this was their first Champions League title. [01:29:31] Speaker A: Right. Yeah. [01:29:32] Speaker C: Finally got it. I saw some think pieces on this and everything on the kind of, I guess the conflict in, for sports fans around, you know, who owns PSG and everything behind it. So PSG was bought, I think, back in like 2011 by the Qatari government. And so if you looked at all of these Middle east countries that are basically using all of their funds from oil and other things to basically, you know, they call it sports washing, basically, versus some of the cultural stuff between us and them. I think some of the English Premier League teams are kind of owed, I think Manchester City owned by, by some of that as well, too. What are your thoughts, I guess, on that? Rome? Just the different things with having a government own an Entire, you know, major soccer, you know, club for the world. [01:30:29] Speaker B: It kind of caught me off guard. I've. I haven't really delved into that. I don't know. It's kind of weird, but I saw it coming up. [01:30:36] Speaker C: But I'll tell you, it's the same thing because, you know who owns McLaren? The Qatari government. So I would say there's a lot of sports right now that we. [01:30:45] Speaker A: And they just had the World cup, too. [01:30:47] Speaker C: Yeah. So I think there's a lot of sports that we have basically outsourced to the highest bidder in a lot of things. And some of our favorites basically are all owned. And I agree this to a bigger subject, because this hasn't got to American sports yet, but you're waiting for the. [01:31:01] Speaker B: First, like hockey or golf. [01:31:03] Speaker C: Golf is the one, I think the NBA, I was. Is. It has a minority stake in maybe the Washington Wizards or something like that. So I don't know. It's been an ongoing thing where. No, no, I guess sovereignty of a country owns any of these American sports teams. But when you look at Formula one, you look at soccer, you look at golf. You know, there. There is a lot of, like, you know, foreign governments, like, basically buying sports at this point. [01:31:32] Speaker B: So that's weird. I don't know. You'll see a lot more sports watching, though, for sure. [01:31:38] Speaker A: So next is next nil for them. College football starting to buy their own pace of university. [01:31:43] Speaker C: I mean, they could at this point. You never know. [01:31:45] Speaker B: I think that was a big issue with the pga or like, a lot of the guys didn't want to take that oil money with live golf. But live golf isn't doing really great either. And now you see guys want to come to the pga, but that deal of them merging those two leagues never happened. And, you know, money talks. So a lot of guys just took it. But I. I don't know how that all you know, develops. Like, NFL's being really careful letting private equities now into buying minority shares. You're definitely going to probably see some sports watching NFL at some point. NBA, if they open up a European division, it's gonna get pretty tricky coming up. [01:32:22] Speaker C: It is. Especially as you start. You know, we talked about. So the NFL, you've. You've got in these franchises and things so expensive that you're really out pricing a lot of like, hey, you're not getting an owner right now buying this thing for about $10 million. All right? You have to. [01:32:36] Speaker B: Those days are gone. [01:32:37] Speaker C: You have to be billion billionaire and then have other Billionaires investing with you. And as. As rich as this world is and all the billionaires we have now versus, you know, generation ago, there's only. So buy all these clubs. I find very interesting what Ryan Reynolds and Rob McAn does for amazing. For Rexam. I think Eva Longoria is buying a Mexican soccer team. And I feel you, Kelsey has got into it. So I think now there's a niche in it where these, you know, athletes or other people are just, hey, we're gonna buy a low, low level team, use our celebrity, get TV stuff going on with it in different ways to, like, enhance a branded image and then kind of to cultivate this thing that's probably smaller because Wrexham, you know, right now was what, on the fourth division in English football and now they're. I forgot. [01:33:34] Speaker B: What, the one away. [01:33:36] Speaker C: Yeah, one away from the Premier League that, you know, they've turned this thing into what was, I don't know, a couple million dollar investment for those guys into something that it's probably turning into like a billion dollar team eventually if they get some sort of stadium and other stuff that goes into it. [01:33:51] Speaker B: Yeah, they're the first team in history to advance up a division three years in a row. It's never happened before. It's been really impressive. So, yeah, they're definitely get their money back and some. [01:34:02] Speaker C: Yep. Just interesting stuff. World of sports and money kind of colliding, I think more than ever before. [01:34:08] Speaker A: But, you know, follow the money, man, the paper trail. We gotta get into. [01:34:13] Speaker B: Buy a pickleball team or a softball team. That's what we can't. [01:34:17] Speaker C: I don't care. I don't care what Steph Curry and all these guys stuff. That stuff's not taken off, all right? Pickleball is pickleball. [01:34:23] Speaker B: It's not. [01:34:24] Speaker C: It's not. [01:34:24] Speaker A: It's dead, man. Yeah, just like. [01:34:27] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, you can't say that. No, no, no. Kobe dead jokes. [01:34:33] Speaker A: I wasn't going there. [01:34:35] Speaker C: He said covet. [01:34:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:34:38] Speaker B: God damn it. All right, never mind. Covid. Covid's not dead. Still around. [01:34:52] Speaker A: It's been around for 100 years. Go look at the Lysol bottles. Kills covet. [01:34:57] Speaker B: All right. Is that it, guys? [01:35:02] Speaker C: Well, I mean, do we have the MLB baseball preview on the docket yet or. [01:35:07] Speaker A: I don't care about baseball preview. What's going on? Wrestling, man. Anything new? [01:35:10] Speaker C: Oh, wrestling. [01:35:11] Speaker A: I don't care about MLB Preview. Who gives a shit about that? [01:35:15] Speaker C: Okay. I mean, wrestling. You know, we have the money in the bank. Pay per view this weekend out in LA at The Intuit Dome. So. And then you got a big. I'm not going this weekend. No, I'm still on the high of WrestleMania. But also, I'll tell you, speaking of money, the TKO Group and WWE making a little pricey to go to some of these events now. I think the cheapest ticket is a thousand dollars to get into into it Dome this weekend for the Money in the bank pay per view. So that's crazy. We got a big tag match, Aaron. We got John Cena, the WWE champion, teaming with YouTube sensation Logan Paul doings, former WWE Champion Cody Rhodes and World Heavyweight Champion Jay USO in kind of the big tag match. So we got that. And then the 2 money in the bank matches where if you climb the ladder and secure that briefcase, Aaron. [01:36:07] Speaker B: Oh, is that the one? [01:36:08] Speaker C: You get a guaranteed title shot anytime, anywhere for a champion of your choosing. So, wow. Big stakes coming out of Cat because generally coming out of that, a new star is crowned because pretty much 90 of the time, the cash in a second successful. And you're going to be launching potentially a new star. [01:36:26] Speaker A: Who's in that fight? [01:36:29] Speaker C: Well, we're still figuring out some of it. I will say on the men's side, we have Seth Rollins, who won the big main event at night one. You. You have La Knight, who has been kind of a rising star in that. I'm trying to think who else we got. And there is. Monday Night Raw was going on tonight. I haven't finished it. There was a qualifying match with CM Punk inside that match as well too. So some big names that'll be kind of in that match. The women have some big names in there too, but yeah, we'll see. Could be launching a new star here. [01:37:06] Speaker A: Interesting. All right. All right, I'll have to check it out. [01:37:10] Speaker C: That Saturday night, Sunday night, Saturday night on Peacock. [01:37:16] Speaker A: What time? [01:37:17] Speaker C: I believe it's 4pm Okay. I think it's early. [01:37:23] Speaker A: The UFC starts at 7. So I can go from the WWE to the UFC all in one motion right there. [01:37:28] Speaker C: That's generally what the TKO group will have is they own both WWWE and the UFC. They put the WWE pay per view at 4 and then transition right into UFC. Hey, we are getting. We're selling everything. And it's a. It's a double action for the TKO group on most of these Saturdays. [01:37:44] Speaker B: So I will tell you, NBA Finals that day. [01:37:46] Speaker C: It could be. Aaron. I will tell you, as big as wrestling fan as I am and I. [01:37:51] Speaker A: Talk, there are no NBA Finals on Saturday. Rome. [01:37:53] Speaker C: Oh, I think the NHL finals Friday, Wednesday Friday. [01:37:58] Speaker A: Saturday's an open night, boys. Oh, it is an open night. CTO group knows what they're doing. [01:38:03] Speaker C: Oh, they know. They got. [01:38:04] Speaker A: Don't mess with Dana White and those boys, bro. They know what they're doing. [01:38:07] Speaker C: That's. That's. Yeah. [01:38:08] Speaker A: All right. [01:38:09] Speaker C: Well into it. Aaron Osan. I love wrestling. There is a lot of wrestling because we are popping up premium live events every which way. We got money in the bank. We got coming down the road. We got another Saturday night's main event on NBC. They're doing an all woman's pay per view out in Georgia that same weekend along with an nxt. [01:38:30] Speaker A: Is that why you're out in Georgia so long, Jason? You were sneaking off watching those pre wrestling and getting all scouting. Okay. [01:38:37] Speaker C: No, no, no, no. [01:38:37] Speaker A: All right. [01:38:38] Speaker C: It happens to be where the event is at. [01:38:40] Speaker A: Okay. I don't know. [01:38:44] Speaker C: Go to Georgia. Maybe that weekend was there because it was in town for the one of the rocks returns last year that was in Georgia during that time. But I did not go to that event. But got a big summer of wrestling coming up. But there's a lot, a lot of wrestling, lots to keep up with right now and you know, we're in a busy season. We got NHL, we got NBA, we got Formula one. Rome didn't even let me talk NASCAR to. [01:39:06] Speaker B: Why did you talk to Indy? Oh, it's over. [01:39:10] Speaker A: Save that. I save that for what? Thursday or any, any given Sunday. [01:39:14] Speaker C: Rome. I could have Formula One at 7am I have IndyCar at 10am and I got NASCAR at noon. I mean that's, that's a full Sunday of racing. [01:39:25] Speaker A: It is a lot of racing. [01:39:26] Speaker B: It's amazing. Yeah. [01:39:27] Speaker A: I mean I did watch. You know, I'm just glad I get to sleep in on a Sunday because I haven't done that in three weeks. [01:39:33] Speaker C: I need to, you know. [01:39:34] Speaker A: Well, you know. Yeah, up 5:45am Three straight Sundays. That's a record for me. So I'm really glad I get, I'm glad I get to sleep in. And then the Canadian Grand Prix I think starts at 11 when that gets going. So get a few weeks. They recharge the, the mind there and the body on a Sunday. [01:39:51] Speaker C: They are in our hemisphere. I, I guess what you're saying is the MLB preview has been pushed off to July or something like that. [01:39:58] Speaker A: Sounds like it basically. Yeah, basically. [01:40:01] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:40:01] Speaker A: I mean a short preview is, you know, the Dodgers try to buy everybody and we'll go from there. Story to be continued. [01:40:10] Speaker C: Only two games up in the Padres. Only two games up in the Padres, though, so even buying everyone, they still can't win. [01:40:15] Speaker B: Have you seen their injured list? It's every pitch that they signed. It's crazy. It's 10 guys on there, I think. [01:40:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it's every year I know their best healthy pitchers. Kershaw. [01:40:26] Speaker B: It's like, every year, it's always like, what's the pitching curse in la? I just wanted to find out, like, what that is. Because no matter who they sign, they get hurt. [01:40:34] Speaker C: You're here complaining about pitchers getting hurt. The poor Rockies, man, only got 10 wins right now, and we're in June. [01:40:41] Speaker B: I'm really happy they finally got the 10th win today. I'm really happy for them because it's a nice number. 10. 10 and 50. [01:40:46] Speaker C: 10 and 50, yeah. Per a perfect round number of terribleness. [01:40:53] Speaker A: They are bad, man. That is a bad team. [01:40:55] Speaker B: They are putting your White Sox record really good last season. [01:41:02] Speaker C: I can't even have one thing. I can't even have the worst team of all time. They're taking it away from me, man. [01:41:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy. [01:41:08] Speaker C: This team can't even hit in Coors Field, you know? Remember when. Remember when it's just the balls just flying out of Coors Field, left and right. Larry Walker, Vinny Castilla, Dante Bichette. This team's only scored 190 runs all season in Colorado. [01:41:28] Speaker B: Yeah, they're bad. I think they're on target to be outscored by 500 runs, which would be all. [01:41:33] Speaker A: I think they're already minus, what, 190 or something in run differential? [01:41:37] Speaker C: Yeah, 180, 183. [01:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's bad. [01:41:41] Speaker C: As bad as my White Sox are this year, they only got a minus 64. Guys. [01:41:45] Speaker B: What is the White Sox record? [01:41:46] Speaker C: They're 18 and 42. [01:41:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Not bad. [01:41:50] Speaker A: I mean, it's better than 10. [01:41:51] Speaker B: It's better than last year. [01:41:54] Speaker C: I think we're better than last year. [01:41:55] Speaker A: Yeah, last year, apparently, they seem. They seem better. More competitive. [01:41:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:41:59] Speaker C: So good that I'm gonna actually go to some White Sox games this year. They're winning. They won, like, three more games, so I. I believe in them. [01:42:04] Speaker B: Where'd you go? Where are you gonna go to game at? [01:42:06] Speaker C: I'm going in July. I got a few trips scheduled with some family and cousins, and I'll be taking in a weekend of White Sox games twice in July. I'll be going to the. I'll be going to the Crosstown White Sox Cub Series at the end of July. [01:42:20] Speaker B: Oh, that'd be sick, actually. [01:42:21] Speaker C: So, yeah, it'll be. I'll be out there twice in July. [01:42:24] Speaker B: Nice. All right, that will wrap it up. This is a very long pod. We said not much. [01:42:30] Speaker A: I mean, me. Jason said it would be. Yeah. [01:42:33] Speaker C: I said three hours. Aaron said, I think we can do it in, like, 180 minutes. Ish. But that's. I don't know. That's two and a half. We did less only. [01:42:45] Speaker B: Yeah, not bad, actually. Yeah, no, that's good. Pretty average. We could have definitely gone longer, I think. We're back. [01:42:55] Speaker C: We're back. [01:42:55] Speaker B: Source of the sofa. We're back. [01:42:59] Speaker A: Rome's back. That's more important. He's back. [01:43:01] Speaker B: Guys, we back at our Internet. [01:43:03] Speaker C: Aaron and I have been here the whole time. We were just waiting for Rome to turn the. Turn the recording light on. [01:43:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I got Internet now. In the new place. [01:43:10] Speaker A: Had no Internet. Was in a retreat in the darkness. But he's back. Rome is back. [01:43:16] Speaker B: I was meditating. [01:43:17] Speaker C: I was concerned because in. In the. In the. The group chat of the show, I, I. There was nothing. And then Aaron, a little quiet. Aaron would just say to the side, like, hey, can you record? I'm like, I can record. Are you executive producer now, Aaron? Are you coordinating this thing or what? [01:43:31] Speaker A: I got some kind of producer role, but I don't know. I don't know what that really entitles, to tell you the truth. [01:43:37] Speaker B: Tile's sending me a check. That's what it sound. That's the executive producer role. [01:43:42] Speaker A: That's great. If I got a check myself to send you a check, but unfortunately have yet to receive one, too. All right, maybe I can. [01:43:50] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:43:51] Speaker A: Maybe I get bought off by a government, and then I can see what I can do for you there. [01:43:54] Speaker B: Yeah, let's see if we can do something Friday. I think Friday be good. [01:44:00] Speaker A: Right after game two of the hockey. That'd be good. Recap the two games and then the NBA one after Thursday. Yeah, that works. [01:44:07] Speaker B: Friday night. I'm not going out for a long time. I'm catching up on sleep from the last three months I haven't slept. All right, peace out, everybody. Swiss from the sofa. We'll be back.