Episode Transcript
[00:00:06] Speaker A: So that was a pretty wild NFL. Week three.
It's just me and Aaron today. Jason lost in the midwest. We're going to go over some of the biggest surprises as well as some of the biggest letdowns, football all around for college football and NFL.
But before we go into that, don't forget to subscribe to our dub club and check us out on X and Instagram for daily picks. Although you might want to ignore the pics that we did this past week. So it was just an off week all over the place.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: We still hit 50%, man. Nine for nine between college and the NFL. Yeah. Though, even though we should have, college football should have been like a nine and three week. Disappointing some of these games, game management and all that, but we'll go into it later.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: Very disappointing. Again, we're facing technical difficulties for some reason. I'm here in San Francisco paying a lot of money for high speed Internet. We're also using a platform to record this stuff and we just can't get shit right. So whoever's listening and you want to come on board as a producer, we're hiring. We really need the help.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: Amen to that, brother.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: Amen to that. To kind of get things started, let's start off with, with the doubleheader. Monday Night Football, we were blessed with the commanders going into the Bengals. Commanders are one and one. Bengals are owing to. Bengals were favored by seven, seven and a half points. You would think the Bengals would come out and win, especially the way they looked last week against the Kansas City Chiefs. Joe Burrow did look good. There was parts of the offense that was solid. They were humming along. Jamar Chase had some nice touchdown grabs, but who would expect Jaden Daniels to be showing up? Although he was my rookie of the year pick before everything started. He looked nice last week and week before kind of piecing things together, but today he just put an all out performance for everyone to see, especially some clutch throws down the line. He was 21 for 23 and then added another 39 yards on the ground for a total of just under 300 yards total.
LSU Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks scoring one to one against each other. What do you get away from this game, Aaron?
[00:02:21] Speaker B: Well, like you said, Jaden Daniels balled out and thankfully we did have a double hitter because that Jacksonville Jaguars Buffalo Bills left a lot to desire on plates. What people's plates watching that one like, man, Jaden Daniels is. I mean, that might be historically one of the top five games by rookie quarterback in the regular season. Like I said, 21, 23, 91% completion, just made all the plays when he needed to. Made all the perfect throws. All out blitz there, zero blitz by the Bengals. Throws it up, gets the touchdown there to finish the Bengals off to LSU. Quarterbacks. Heisman winners won a national championship winner. Cincinnati looked good on offense, but their defense was nowhere at the performance level that they needed to be to win this game. Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow. That connection looks strong. T. Higgins came back. They connected for a few big passes.
Running game was good. I mean, Cincinnati put up 33 points. He put up 33 points at home on a Monday night. You expect to win that game with Cincinnati given the defensive history they have. But Jaden Daniels and Cliff Kingsbury, they had everything. They were just two steps ahead. I mean, first down, mixing the pass, the run. I mean, they weren't in third and long, really the whole game. And they just stayed ahead of the chains. Kept Cincinnati off balance. And Cincinnati had a sellout at the end. They made him pay over the top of the game winning touchdown. I mean, fantastic game by Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it was pretty amazing. Jayden Daniels, really mobile pretty quick.
I guess he's not a fan of like, you know, sliding when, when he's running for the first down. He has quite a bit of runs. I think the second most runs.
Is it behind Allen? Possibly, or behind Lamar Jackson in the season so far for carries. He did have a nice slide in the second half. They came away with some points with a nice ten point lead.
That throw I came over to who it was to McLaren. Terry, number 17. It was for like a nice 50 yard pickup at the end. That ball dropped like a dime. Is one of the more beautiful throws. Kind of remind me of a little bit of the Colts quarterback. You know, how he can do 50 yard dimes but can't do five yard passes. But Jaden Daniels kind of piecing it all together. A great game all around and very impressive. Zach Ertz, I totally forgot he was on Washington as well. He has some nice clutch cat catches.
Just a well rounded game for everybody.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, Washington, back to back weeks. No punts, no turnovers. I think it's amazing when you look at a rookie quarterback three games in Washington has zero turnovers on offense. Three games in from a rookie quarterback, we'd expect a rookie quarterback to be turning the ball over. We see that from the other rookie quarterbacks out there. Young QB's Washington, man. I mean, like you said, they hit the big plays when he needed to. Their defense wasn't great, but, you know, they held Cincinnati to two field goals. Cincinnati missed a clutch field goal. That was a difference. They converted touchdowns in the red zone. Cincinnati didn't until it was too late. Ran out of time.
And Jayden Daniels, I mean, he gets the game ball for sure. Him and Cliff can very. That O line did a great job, too. I think Jamie Daniels only got sacked one time. His ability to get out of the pocket, extend plays. I think it leads to the league right now in 13 1st downs. Ran running the ball and this looks kind of like Lamar 2.0 out there. You know, the run option, faking the handoff. He walks in for a five yard touchdown. Third and one. You don't know if they're going to give it to the running back. He pulls it out, he gets how many? How many third and ones, fourth and ones that they convert. He converted at least two or three. Just pulling the ball out and getting two, three yards, all out lids. You take the running back, it's, it's an office. That looks really good. I didn't expect it to look this good in week three.
[00:06:04] Speaker A: Yeah, so we're looking at the first three games. Obviously 91% is past game. He hasn't been passing the ball all too much. 30 attempts was the most last week, but 184 yards the first game. 226 last game. 254 this past game completion percentage was off the charts. But he did get his first two touchdowns plus a rushing touchdown, which was pretty sweet in the first half. Just kind of snuck it on the left hand side with a nice gap.
Burrow, though. Let's talk about the Bengals.
They were seven point favorites.
They look like they came to play and then all of a sudden they kind of fell asleep at the wheel a little bit. Although Burrow look sharp and the offense look sharp at times. They really didn't have an answer for Washington. And now they're zero three in a really tough division. Yeah, my steelers that are three and oh, the Ravens are struggling. The Browns are struggling. We talked about in the beginning of the season how this might be one of the toughest divisions in football and everything is turned upside down.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: I think it's still a good division. Still, as you said, three and o. Baltimore got back on the winning track. They've got a big game with Buffalo coming up. They're going to try to knock the bills off that winless streak. Cincinnati, we thought they would come back after week one. The offense laid a dude. Week two, balance game, you know, questionable, stupid play. They're getting the PI late in the game, cost him a win and then here in week three, the offense shows up, the defense doesn't. So they haven't put it together consistently yet. There's no balance between this team. They've been zero two the last three years. Now they're owing three. I don't know what the percentage of numbers of teams have made in the playoffs at zero three. I'm sure it's that 1%, maybe the last.
They've dug themselves a deep hole if there's any team we think can get out of it at Cincinnati. But maybe this is just not their year.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Maybe not. Maybe it's just a down year. Finally, for Burrow, this is his fourth season, but it's been like hit, injured, great season, another injury, and now this is like his fourth. He hasn't really had two full seasons yet. We kind of forget about that Bengal schedule coming up. It's kind of like up or down. There's a chance to get the 500 pretty quickly. They face the Panthers up next, then the Ravens, which be a tough divisional game. The Giants, we can talk about that later on. But Daniel Jones kind of looked competent this past game with neighbors, you know, look, looking phenomenal. They got the Browns again, and then the doctor, Jekyll and Eagles. So Raiders after that. So there, there's a chance to get the 500 and maybe go on a run, but did not see this coming.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: Didn't see it coming. Man. You see the hat on my head? You just got to find a way to get one, get one win and kind of build on that and go from there.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Brother Aaron's rocking a Florida state FSU have, by the way, in case there's.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: Got a win, man. Oh, and three, got a win. So Cincinnati can relate, dude, Cincinnati can relate.
[00:09:07] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty impressive as far as the other Monday night game, Jaguars, they came in. Oh, and two, you would think that they would wake up, had a close loss against Miami in the week. One last week, looked like a shell to themselves. Lawrence hasn't won what's been like eight or nine games now?
[00:09:26] Speaker B: Eight.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Eight starts, eight trade starts. And then the bills, they've looked phenomenal in the first two weeks. And I thought, I know you and Jason called that this would be an automatic win. I thought, if anything, this might be like a slight little letdown. Bills would be okay. They're going to have a great season. But, man, they came to play. They had a two touchdown lead really early on.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: Bills, like you said, rome, they came to play. They smoked Jacksonville. Let's not beat around the bush. That was an old ass whipping. They took him by in the barn shed and whipped their ass. Jacksonville, I don't know what they're doing right now. Offensively, they look lost. Defensively, they look lost. They ran the same defensive scheme the whole game. It wasn't working. They didn't make any adjustments. And when you don't make any adjustments against the team that's running up and down the field on you, they're going to drop a 40 burger plus on you.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: Most definitely.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: And Josh Allen, we talked about it coming into the season. Who's his wide receivers? Well, he made his wide receivers look great. He's got Shakur. He's got Kincaid Coleman out of Florida State with his first TD cook. So he's, he's bowling out. You know, it cooks probably up there right now for MVP candidates. This offensive line is good. Jacksonville had beaten Buffalo the last two times we played. I'd like Buffalo to win the game. I thought Jacksonville would keep it close, desperate for a win, but they were nowhere to be shown, man. I mean, I. If I'm a Jaguars fan and a player in that locker room, I'm embarrassed by that performance on Monday night.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Yeah, you did have the Jags plus five. I thought that was kind of a gutsy call, but yeah. Allen hits seven different receivers, I believe. Yeah, Kincaid Coleman had a nice grab. One grab is a nice touchdown grab. Got cook a few times. Shakir had a 72 yards and another touchdown. Johnson got a touchdown. Well rounded. He was, what was it, 23 for 3263 yards, but four td's all in the first half. It was over before it even started.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, Josh Allen's performance on Monday night was good. It was only shown up by Jayden Daniels funding performance being great. If not, we'd be talking about how good Josh Allen looked. But Jaden Daniels going to steal the show. I think the most impressive thing right now with Buffalo is that defense, they got so many guys out on defense in the linebacker corps secondary. We kind of thought that'd be their weakness. But maybe this new DC and Sean McDermott, they know something we didn't. I thought Buffalo was going to take a step back this year with all the new players they got on offense. Now you got Joe Brady full time, OC. He was Joe Burrows, OC, LSU kind of turned his career around. Joe Brady was a guy kind of people gave up on, but now I think it's gonna be a hot name. And what he's done with Josh Allen, he's gonna, he's gonna get head coaching job in the offseason.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: I think quite possibly so Von Miller had another great game. Have one sack tackle for loss. Then he had Demoral Hamlin. That was a poor throw by Lawrence. Probably one of the ugliest fucking throws I've seen all fucking year. And I, you know, for all the shit that we're giving young out of Carolina, no one's really talking about Lawrence. I think it's time for him to kind of get the shit. I like that seat gotta be high. Like, they gotta get him out of there.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah, Ron, we talked about eight straight starts. He's lost, and it doesn't look like things are getting better. He's regressing. I don't think it's anything close to where young is right now, but his confidence looks shy. Like you said, that interception, he missed him by ten yards. I mean, it was wide open. I mean, that was pitching catch. I mean, I, I had to look to see if that was Lawrence or Richardson for a second because. From the Colts. Because that was the kind of throw I'd expect him to miss. But Jacksonville, nothing, man, just nothing. Tonight. They came out. Like I said, they just got their ass whooped. That's simple as that. You show up tomorrow, you show up Wednesday. If you're Jacksonville, you put on the tape and you say, you got your ass whooped. Watch it. Don't let it happen again come Sunday.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: So here's the crazy thing, man. So I don't know if you want to talk about the AFC south real quick, but Texas got manhandled and then Jaguars, we kind of figured they might be like a second place team there, but this was really a really tight division, and now you got two and zero and three teams. The Colts hanging in there. I think they're a nice, you know, one and two team, and then Texans all by themselves at two and one, and then you got the AFC East. Bills are just starting to run away with it. It's kind of crazy.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: I think the Bills are the class of the AFC east with Miami and Tua being out there. They're a sinking ship right now. The Jetse, they're looking pretty good. They've got Denver this weekend. We expect them to win that game. Like I said, Buffalo is going to Baltimore. That's going to be a slugfest. I believe that's a Sunday nighter.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: Give me time.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: We're going to get a good idea. Just how, I mean, if Buffalo goes in there and beats up on Baltimore, watch out, Buffalo. I mean, I think Buffalo is for real. That game could go either way, but it's, it's going to be a, it's going to be a slugfest Sunday night in Baltimore.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: Yeah, speaking of Baltimore, let's talk about that game really quick.
Or do you want to talk about that game? Or should we talk about, like, more impressive wins so far this week?
[00:14:26] Speaker B: I mean, we might as well have jumped the Baltimore for three quarters. They were looking like one of the most impressive teams this weekend.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: They looked really good, and for some reason, I just didn't think the Cowboys were completely out yet in the fourth quarter.
And then they came storming back and I don't know, it seems like the Cowboys defense has trouble, like, stopping the run before this weekend or like, before this year. They were like, kind of middle the pack, and that was like a big question mark. Now this year, now they're the worst against the run. Thank, thankfully to Jason's Bears, you know, getting stopped by the Colts. The Colts were the leading contender for having the worst rush defense. But now that's all I Cowboys.
And you think if they're going to be, always be behind, Dak Prescott is going to probably be getting, like, a lot of yardage in the air just because they're always trying to catch up and try to get some points on the board.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: Well, Dak Prescott got that $60 million contract because sometimes he has to build this defense out and pads the stats. And, you know, you just looked at the box score in the final score of that game, you saw 28 25. You thought it was a good game. Yeah, Dak didn't do anything for three quarters. Cowboys offense was anemic. They were getting manhandled by Baltimore and then Baltimore, like, for whatever reason, when the fourth quarter comes, like that team just shuts off. They've got seven blown leads of double digits in the fourth quarter since 2021. They've already blown, you know, a game the week before against the Raiders team, which we'll get into later.
And you talked about Dallas against the run. I mean, Baltimore ran the ball 75% of their plays. Derek Henry looked like the Derek Henry of old. Lamar was able to do what they wanted to do. Dallas, you know, they can't stop the run against big, physical teams. That's been their downfall. That's why the 49 ers love to play them. Kyle Shanahan, get back there. Get the full back. Run it. Run it down their throat. Play action all day. It works against Dallas because once Dallas gets frustrated, they just kind of play individual ball, hero ball, and they sell out, get out of position. You can get big plays against them.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: So I'm a big fan of Derek Henry and he just looks really fucking good. Like, this is a big pickup. This is Saquon Barkley, probably some of the more fun pickups in the off season for running backs. And the fact that now everyone's running the ball, but 25 carries, 150 yards, two touchdowns, he looks solid. And the thing, I know there's like big, like on the media, but he wanted to be a cowboy, but then Jerry Johnson fucking want him. And you guys, he had a funny quote, man. It was something like, well, we have a mansion, but we couldn't afford another mansion, so that's why we didn't get them. It's like, did you guys have Ezekiel, Ellie? You guys have no fucking rush. You know, they could have used Derek Henry, that like, this would have changed the whole fucking Cowboys team completely if they had.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Derek Henry definitely would help him out. And like you said, I mean, what's, what's, what's a big deal pointing up another five, 6 million for a running back like Derek Henry, who can just, his presence back there brings an attitude to your team and your offense and just helps motivate you. I think Baltimore realized, hey, Derek Henry hadn't had a good first two weeks. Dallas is solved against the run. We saw what Kamora and the Saints did the week before. Let's feed the beast. And the beast ate. He ate on Sunday. They ate.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: I think Baltimore, they didn't score in the fourth quarter, right? They were pretty much done with 28 to like six or something like that.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: 28 to three, yeah, 28 to six, yeah.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: So, so that's like 90 points of the fourth. Yeah, that's where all the stats came from for Dallas. They'd be worried about the Dallas fan. They look kind of shaky. They spent all that money. Yeah. CD Lamb, another guy, he called out a little bit for a contract. He's been hit or miss.
[00:17:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Dallas didn't do a lot in the offseason, remember, Jerry just kind of sat on it. He kept saying, we're all in. People kept waiting for them to make moves. They didn't make moves. Where they going to pay, dag? Where they could play? CD Micah Parsons contracts up a lot of talk in Dallas land. Not a lot of results right now. And they got a short week game traveling to the Meadowlands to take on the New York football Giants. I think we should jump into the Giants because the Giants looked pretty good on Sunday.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: Alright, so I gotta be honest, man. I didn't catch too much of this game. I thought it was gonna be like a fucking ugly show. But it ended up being one of the four screens I was trying to.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: You know, I was this game, I avoided this game on my four screens, but I did see a little bit of the, you know, highlights here and there because I just don't want to watch the Sean Watson and Daniels play quarterback.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah, caught a little bit of the second half once I saw a Giants rub. It was just a weird day of football for like, the morning games.
Dan Jones looked pretty decent there. Wide receiver, neighbors coming out LSU. He looked really nice. That guy just, he's a, he's quick, he's big. It looks like Jones is just laying some of these throws, just floating the air. He's just like going up in the air and grabbing them. He had two teeth, two TD's.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know what's in that crawl fish they got down there in Louisiana, but the receivers that come out of there, from Beckham to Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, now you got neighbors. I mean, they just produce studs. It's a factory. Wide receiver. Stud. Factory. Louisiana State University neighbors. You talked about falling out two TD's. You got Jaden Daniels as rookie of the year. I think his biggest threat is neighbors.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: Yeah, neighbors. Going to probably have a good year, you know, if he had a better quarterback. Actually, Jones looked pretty decent. Two third, 36, two touchdowns, 24 for 34. Rather my badgest. But do you think it was like a fluke performance or like out of, I think typically, like the first four weeks. Right. We always talk about, like, we're going to finally see, like, the, the mean or like, what these teams are really going to be. So I still think we're, like, still in, like, the early part of it. But Giants kind of surprised me in this game. I thought, you know, Cleveland would kind of rebound from last week and they just didn't show up.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Cleveland's had two home losses, and they've both been disappointing to the Cowboys and Giants. Daniel Jones, he mentioned he looked good against Washington. He played good here in this game. They might have known to be that they might have been able to beat Washington had they had a kicker. He got hurt in pregame, so they just had to keep going for two. Couldn't kick extra points, field goals. That ended up costing them the game because commanders had seven field goals and beat them. But historically, Daniel Jones has sucked against Dallas. That defensive front and pressure has given him a lot of trouble and fits in the past. Right. Thursday night. But they, you know, with neighbors, they got that threat and we know, you can run on doubts. So can the Giants establish the run game again? What's the quarterback's favorite friend, especially one that turns the ball over, prone to make mistakes? A run game. Give him a run game, then you can go play action. You know, Dallas gets carried away, tries to get interceptions, maybe get neighbors over the top, get him underneath, get some quick passes going.
If I'm Dallas, you said, should they be worried?
We'll see. We'll see. I mean, the Giants, I don't know how good they are, but I think this can be a more competitive, good game on Thursday than we were probably expecting two, three weeks ago.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm still kind of like if he, like on a lot of these teams and Giants kind of threw that in a wrench because they were more, way, way more competitive than I thought they would be against Washington. Washington's obviously is going to be more competitive than many of us thought they would be, but that's gonna be pretty fun. Division, there's gonna be a fucking slugfest. Speaking of which, like, the Eagles with Sirianni hurts turning the ball over again. Like, we just talked about this last week, like, you know, if hers is gonna keep on, like, fumbling and throwing interceptions, like, what the fuck is going on? They did not look like they had great play calling against the Saints and the Saints, Derek Carr looked like Derek Carpenter last year.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah, the Saints gave that one anyway. I mean, you stop them on fourth down, twice taking points off the board. Sirianni, I, it's kind of like where the, when you got your own players looking over at you like, are you sure? You got all the fans in the crowd pointing and yelling, take the three, take the three. And he's just like, he's just like, he's got that bulldog look like, we're going for it, I don't care. And then you get stuffed. And then you get stuffed. Eagles are fortunate to come out of that win and give credit to Saquon Barkley for coming back and redeeming himself. He blew that game Monday night with that drop pass, but two big TD runs. He had that one that got him on the board. I think it was about a 60, 70 yard run. I think his resilience and toughness was the difference in getting that team through. Jalen hurts like you mentioned, turning the ball over a lot just kind of looks lackadaisical sometimes in the pocket. Strip sack froze a TD or interception in the end zone. You can't have those mistakes. And then the lack of taking field goals on four from three again, we talked about it. When there's points, take the points. I know the commanders kind of beat that trend today, but this was a different game. You were in a shootout against Burrow. They needed the points. You're in a defensive battle. You always take the point in a defensive battle.
[00:23:07] Speaker A: Yeah. So like this, like the game.
This is ugly, man. I was looking forward to a week, thought it was gonna be a shootout. I was watching it. I just couldn't fucking stand it. Three fucking points in the first half, and I think it wasn't until the fourth quarter everyone start, started scoring. That's when both of those Saquon Barkley touchdowns happened to, if it wasn't for Saquon Barkley, which is kind of weird because Eagles so fucking talented, and I think I had them winning the division, but they might be, like the ugliest two one team out there. I don't know what to make of them. And if it wasn't for Saquon Barkley, because they could easily be three. No, if Barkley caught that pass, but it kind of feels like they can also be on three.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, the packers, that opener in Brazil, that game could have gone either way, so they're fortunate to win that game. Atlanta Nell biter. Saints Nell biter I mean, Eagles have a ton of talent, but they just seem like an undisciplined, unorganized team at some time, which is kind of weird because you go back two years ago when they made that Super bowl run, like, everything clicked. Everything clicked. And it's like they kind of lost their mojo and that toughness that they had.
So we'll, we'll see with the Eagles, man. I mean, I don't know what you're going to get week to week. I don't know if Sirianni is going to change his ways and be like, we're going to kick bill goals. I mean, they got a top five kicker. The guy's a really good kicker. You're indoors.
Almost cost his team the game, man. And we could go back like you said, you know, the Monday nighter, you know, do you run the ball there and take another 40 seconds off the clock instead of saving Kirk Cousins that minute? 40. Yeah.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Crazy. Yeah. I just don't know what on that.
Where do we go from airbag?
[00:24:50] Speaker B: Let's jump out of your Steelers, man.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: Steelers. This was definitely a game that I had on the main screen. I was between this and every other game, but it got the most playing time.
They looked really good. First of all, I know when we were talking about the game last week, I did not realize the Chargers had won the top defenses. And I know when we talked on the phone earlier, you mentioned it was probably because who they played the first two weeks, but they looked solid, like par ball, gossip team coached up. They had great schemes. They apply a lot of, a lot of pressure. But then I just kind of want to give it up for, you know, what Tomlin has done so far for the Steelers and kind of letting fields kind of progress. They kind of let him rip the ball a little bit down the middle. He had some nice throws, did get an interception. It wasn't his fault. But I know Jason's upset because I've been saying, like, doesn't feel as bad playing like the cleanest, most complete football of his life, but I truly believe that he's won the fucking starting job now. And I don't see why they should ever go back to Russell Wilson unless Fields plays his way out of it.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you're going to see Russell Wilson unless Fields gets hurt or just starts making dumb mistakes. I mean, going back on fields, I had him as a number one rated quarterback coming out of that class. I had him rated over Trevor Lawrence. I had him rated over Mac Jones. I had him rated over Trey Lance. You know, I wish. I wish Kyle Shanahan would have taken this guy. I mean, think about Justin Fields working with him.
So, I mean, we can all look back on and say what if? What if? But give the Steelers credit. They came out, played Stiller, Tomlin ball, run the ball.
Fields, that played really well in the passing game. That was a trayvon Austin hit him for some big passes. He had a TD. Pickett's made some catches.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: Very tight in Calvin Austin, but yeah, yeah, Calvin Austin has a nice 50 yard.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: The old, the old ram from West Virginia, I believe.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah, they all kind of, I don't.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Know, they're related or anything, but I don't either.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: Yeah, he let me look it up real quick.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: But yeah, the Chargers, you know, like we said when we're talking earlier, their defense, I mean, yeah, they played the Raiders and the Bryce Young and the Panthers, but this Chargers team, they have hardballs, DNA. They're definitely a different team. They were last year. You're not going to get an easy victory over this Charger team. You're not going to just come in, get the Brandon Staley, lay down, drop 70 points and then take it up the rear end and see you next week. This, this charger team is coming to play. They're not messing around, and it's going to be hard to.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: Have you talked to your mom about them? I would be pretty excited about this Chargers team.
[00:27:26] Speaker B: I haven't yet. I haven't yet. I'll have to give her a call.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So Aaron's mom's a big Chargers fan. So is his dad. And we've been to a few games with them, and I. April, we'll have to have her on the pod. She knows her charter history.
But I don't know. This is a fun team. I would totally go to a few games. It looked good. They had a chance to steal it. Thank God. Herbert got hurt at the end of the game, and Boswell kicked some more clutch field goals. But I'm excited. I think this is, like, the best case scenario for the Steelers. I know I had them as, like, a ten win team. Everyone's laughing at me, but they definitely look like a tendency eleven win team to me. Uh, and I don't know, maybe they don't need to score more than 21 points. Like, this is a low scoring season so far. Maybe they can just out maneuver everyone on defense and just fucking muscle their way into winning the division. I know it's early. I know the Steelers have done this before. You were like, they're fucking dominant, and they just shut the bed. And in the later half. But I'm digging whatever Tomlin has finally done to this team for them to wake up and. And of course, JJ Watt is fucking tearing it up.
I really like him.
[00:28:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I think you're going to get a lot of credit with the offered Smith higher at OC. Not JJ Watt. JJ, TJ Watt. You know, they're all the same, both dominant defensive players, but Smith on offense, calling plays. You know, he did a great job in Tennessee with Tanhill. He went to Atlanta. They fired him after three years. But what did he not have? He didn't have a quarterback. I mean, the quarterback he had last year's not even the league this year, and he still managed to win seven games.
So I think that was kind of premature. Maybe I landed to toss him out and just throw him out there. Great, great hire by Tomlin. Let me get a veteran voicing here, a guy that actually knows how to call off. It's not like the guy they had that they picked up at Home depot the last few years.
But Justin Fields, like you said, he's the guy going forward. I've even heard rumors on other shows that would they trade Russell Wilson if somebody came calling in Miami was brought up. I think. I think with two would be an out. Wilson looks, he looks perfect at the Miami flipper jersey.
[00:29:35] Speaker A: That's actually a good idea. I actually heard too, somewhere that speaking of Miami, young might be a good fit there.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think Carolina is ready to give up on young yet. I mean, Andy Dalton, the red rifle, he still got some bullets in that gun, man. He still got some lead there.
[00:29:53] Speaker A: All right, so I called it. Let's go to that. Because I called on the pod dude, that it was prime time for an upset. I asked you guys if he had anything left in the tank. I did some reading on the boards, was on twitter, saw some vids. I was fucking sold. I was just writing it. I thought, like, maybe, like veteran presence might change the Carolina Panthers for a game or two and fuck, dude, I couldn't fucking believe it. They beat the shit out of the Raiders and then the Raiders, the Pierce fan, Pope post game, calling the players out, saying people were, you know, making business decisions, they should make business decisions. Like, dude, like, you're getting your ass kicked and what do you expect?
[00:30:33] Speaker B: Yeah, Andy Dalton, I thought he would give the team a little bit of spark. I did not expect them to beat the Raiders, especially beat them like they did. I expected the game to be competitive, but to go out there and just dominate the Raiders like they did was surprising. Antonio Pierce postgame, basically saying guys gave up, made business decisions. Week three, there's no reason to be calling that. You know, his main guys, Devontae, Adams, Crosby. No, they were asked about afterwards and they've just kind of, I don't think so, but we'll watch the film and see, ya know, that's not a good look. This is week three. You're not making business decisions. Week three. Now, maybe the effort was lacking after they're down 28 points, that that happens. Gosh, daddy games. Oh, the gays guys know the games overdose. So they kind of like, you're like, all right, let's just get out of here and get to week four. But for Pierce to call him out like that, I mean, business decisions. Let's look at the Raiders quarterback situation. Talk about business decisions. They didn't even spend any money on a quarterback this offseason. All the quarterbacks that are out there, I mean, that's, that's the biggest fault of the Raiders. They don't have a quarterback. So for him to say, hey, business decision by the players, look at management. A lot of good QB's were out there. Darnold. Was out there. Darnold. Does anybody remember that guy? We'll get to Minnesota, but he was available for what, 10 million? Raiders said, no, thanks.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
So I think, like, O'Connell came at the end of the game, right, and got a touchdown. So that kind of changed the score a little bit. But I. I think Carolina had three touchdowns in the first half.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: I think Carolina was up 36 to seven on the road.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: It was an ass whooping dollar. One had 300 plus yards. He's the first quarterback, I think, this season that had three touchdowns and 300 plus yards, which is crazy in itself. Some guy that's like one step into retirement. But he looked really nice, I guess, with that performance, though.
Did Carolina make, like, the right hire? Like, at least now I'm starting to think, like, did they make the right hires in, like, coaching and, like, do they have, like, the right upgrades? They just need, like, a veteran presence or is this still a shit show? Cause they just go through quarterbacks. Like, maybe they don't have, like, the right setup for, like, young quarterbacks. And I guess I'm. I'm probably not the only ones, like, a bunch of questions, but young obviously look like shit. His confidence is gone, and it didn't make him look better. But Carolina, this can't just be like a one off.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: We're going to see Bryce young again in Carolina play the season. Yeah, Carolina's getting. The fact that they're getting trade offers for him, and they've even admitted they have, and they said no. And they've said. They said they're going to play young again this year. They know they're not a playoff team. I like the hire of Dave Canales. He was in Seattle, I think as a quarterback coach. Got Geno Smith turned around. We saw what he did with Baker in the one year. Yeah, this guy knows how to do. I mean, he, he's not a dummy. He knows how to manage games, get quarterbacks the best out of them. Maybe it's just veteran quarterbacks. You take Geno Smith, ten years in the league, people write him off. Andy Dalton, you said he's got 1ft in, 1ft out. Kind of seeing this from veteran quarterbacks. We saw it from Joe Flacco of the Browns. Guys can come in, people think they're washed up, but they know the game. They can still make throws.
Don't write these guys off. Whether or not, you know, Carolina's not, you know, let's not sugarcoat it. I don't think they're going to the playoffs. Or anything. Right. They dismantled the Raiders and they've got the Raiders organization in a tipsy right now.
[00:33:55] Speaker A: That's funny, man. Yeah, we'll see. That division is trying to look pretty interesting, though.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: Yeah, great for them. Everybody lost. We thought Tampa would win at home in New Orleans and they go into three note. They're only one game back.
[00:34:07] Speaker A: Only one game back. It's muddled in the middle. Saints who look like they're going to run away with it. They came back down the earth. Bucks came back down the earth. I don't know if you want to talk about that game, but that was an ugly game as well. I couldn't watch it.
Baker, the quick disappearing act.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: Well, we talked about it. We said it was a trap game. Broncos Owen to getting seven points going into Tampa. Tampa coming off a big, big emotional win against Detroit. You expect a little bit of a letdown. Not as much of a letdown. We saw. That's the National Football League. When you think you got an easy winner, bet the opposite side.
[00:34:42] Speaker A: Yeah, we did call it a trap game. I didn't expect broncos to come out, though like, you know, like that and then Bo Nicks, I know you called him like the second coming of Drew Brees, but the game plan that they're kind of setting up for him and whatever they're doing, you know, he's making some pretty good strides. And from like, what I saw is, you know, it was really nice to see.
[00:35:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, he's going to get better with all the reps, practice, game film sessions. The key for him was first two weeks through an interception in the end zone this week, no interceptions in the end zone. Once you turn the ball over in the end zone, that's like deflated because not only are you taking points off your team, but you give the other team momentum and if they come back and score, that could be a 14 point swing. So that's the key for Denver. Play good defense. They got a solid defense. Run the ball. They really haven't established it yet. And keep the game simple for phonics. Champagne is a great game manager, great game caller. Once pro Nix gets more comfortable and stuff, he'll get better. Tough matchup this weekend with the jets. That's a good defense. We assume jets have shown better improvement. It's gonna be a good game.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: Speed of rookie quarterbacks. Let's talk about the Bears real quick. Caleb had I think 300 or almost 300 yards was being attacked all day. Like that o line is so porous. Some of the play calling was kind of like iffy. I did have it as one of the games I was mainly watching, but it got to the point where it was ugly football. Both teams were turning the ball over.
Richardson, who I'm a fan of, he, we just mentioned earlier, this guy can throw like 50 yards, 60 yard dines, but then can't throw five yards, which is probably like, giving a whole bunch of Colts fans, like, mind boggling paranoia. They're probably drinking themselves at death. So Caleb did have 362 touchdown, two interceptions.
This was a weird game. Roma doomsday came to play. He looked really nice. Finally. He finally showed up with 100 plus yards in a touchdown.
But I was a Bears fan. Jason, this is for you, man.
I gave a warning that this is no way a 1011 one team. They should be competitive, but based on, like, the play calling and what they're doing, I think they should be panicking a little bit.
[00:36:55] Speaker B: If you're a Bears fan. Yes. Panic button. The meters gone up last week. It was a one. I've got it like at a four right now. Caleb, the office of line isn't great. Yeah, he threw for 363, but it was an ugly 363. Yeah. The offense still can't run the ball. I'm looking at the stats right now, 63 yards against the defense that was given up to 50 plus a game. You know, they're going to, we talked about that. You know, the Colts are going to focus on the run, so sometimes you want to, you know, do the opposite. Hey, they're going to focus all week on the run. So we're going to throw the ball, but we talk about what's a young quarterback's best friend, or any quarterbacks for that matter, run the ball.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:34] Speaker B: The Bears. Bears have no run game. Deandre Swift, 13 carries, 20 yards, a Roman. Let me tell you something. I could get that on any Sunday.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: So, like, when we talked about last week, I, uh, you know, I knew that the Colts had, like, a poorest run defense, and I said, if they can just bring it down 50 yards and, like, focus on, on that and, like, minimizing the mistakes. I like the Colts to win. I think you guys took the Bears, but I didn't expect them to hold.
[00:38:00] Speaker B: I think I took the Colts, but I don't remember, but, you know, I.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Didn'T expect them to hold the Bears, like, what, 60 yards for the game. It was pretty, it was really impressive. They still play like shit. Jonathan Taylor, obese man, I'm so glad he's healthy again.
He had a 20 something carries. I think like two touchdowns. It was really good. I still don't know what to make about the Colts. There's like half the teams in the league. I don't know what to make up because they're like Jekyll and Hyde. They're kind of good and they're also kind of shitty. And it's fucking weird. And I don't think we're going to get clarity until like what we, five or six, I would say know, like.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: I say we get more clarity at the end of October. I mean, you talked about the Colts not knowing who they are. You know who they got this week, right? They got the Steelers.
They got the Steelers.
[00:38:50] Speaker A: Where? Where?
[00:38:53] Speaker B: Kiss in Indianapolis.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: Let's just check. It.
[00:38:59] Speaker B: Is, it is a home game. It is a home game. I think the early lines, like one and a half, two points.
I think the Colts might be favored, too. Maybe the Steelers have to go back and look at it. But yeah, I mean, Richardson, we talked about it. He only played one season in college, 13 starts. He only made what, five starts his rookie year last year and then he's three starts into this year. Yeah, he can, he can throw the deep ball beautifully. I mean, he's a guy that can throw it from one goal line to the other, but you can't make simple throws. He was ten for 20 in this game. He threw his, I mean, he threw a lob pass for an interception in the end zone. He just, he just basically threw an out of the oop to the defense.
And then the Bears, you talked about it, you know, they got a great defense with the run game. You know, Shane Waldron is OC. I talked about, talked to you earlier. I think it's, I think Matt iberfuss, he's on the hot seat. I just, I just don't, I don't see a guy that's a head coach. He doesn't manage games good. Their replay challenge, their whole clock management is terrible.
I mean, for all, for all the shit that no Hackett, Hackett received over there, being one year coach of the Broncos, I think Matt Eberview says if he doesn't get to the playoffs or at least a winning season or this offense can turn things around, there's too many good offensive coaches out there that would love to work with Caleb Williams.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Regardless, if I'm a Bears fan or Bears organization, I'm pulling the plug on.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: Them just from the beginning. That's why I didn't think they had to make the playoffs in order to save his job. They just had to be competitive and look competent, but they don't even look close to that, so he is in trouble, man.
Yeah, they. They don't look very good.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: As far as Richard, I would say Bears panic meter, like we said for. I'd say Matt Eberfuse is about a seven or eight.
[00:40:44] Speaker A: I'll give it like a good six for sure. Yeah, at least a six. It's a hot six.
I might though that. That's a really hot one. Boils water.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: It's a hot seven. Getting ready to boil to an eight over a mine.
[00:40:56] Speaker A: Maybe we'll have to ask Jason on Thursday because he's not here with us and I'm really curious to see why he's feeling, man. So I didn't know, like, other guys were like, Bears fans on Twitter, like Ryan Rosillo and our, obviously, like, Seth Rollins. You know, he's a big Bears fan. They were like, all over Twitter talking shit. So it is what it is, you know, that's what you get for having high hopes for me. You know, I'm just happy those are competitive right now.
[00:41:23] Speaker B: There you go, man. There you go.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: Damn. What have we not covered?
[00:41:30] Speaker B: I think we got to go into it. Your guy, Malik Willis, man. Malik Willis. You want to know, you get. We talked about him basically. Tennessee shipped him out of town a month ago and said he was done. Now he comes in and beats him on Sunday.
[00:41:44] Speaker A: Yeah, he didn't really get a fair shot in the tines. I remember when they drafted him was like, a lot of talk, like how athletic he worked, but he only played a couple times, never got more than 100 yards. I was right on that thing where he never got more than 100 yards passing with the tie ins and, yeah, no one really thought he was gonna get this much playing tie, but I kind of want to, like, I'm trying to think, like, who are the top five coaches in the league now as based on what the floor is doing with, like, love and then even Willis coming in, who would have thought they'd be two? And, oh, without love now they still have a chance to win that division and get, like, you know, 1011 wins at the very least. Before I thought they. They were done and they were going to make my pick look really nice. The Detroit Lions. Detroit Lions might be an up and down season for them as they try to figure, like, how much of a contender they're going to be. It might be like one of those, you know, you know, take a step back before you take a couple steps forward. But Lafleur, the Packers they demolished the tie ins.
[00:42:40] Speaker B: It's.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: It was a good fucking win. And Willis played really fucking.
[00:42:45] Speaker B: Yeah, Willis played really well. And like you said, green Bay's Matt LA for their heath, top three coach in the NFC with McVeigh and Shanahan. He's up there. You know, people kind of question how good we coach he was because he kind of had Rogers still in his prime. Rogers won like two mvp's out of three years, right. There was questions. I think it's the first coach in NFL history that win. Three straight years of 13 plus wins. And then you got Jordan love. This team was three and five last year. Jordan and love, he called them out pressers saying he's not getting the job done. He turned him around. Malik Willis, right on. Like you said, no hundred yard passing game yet in the NFL. Tennessee couldn't wait to get rid of him for what? A six round pick?
And then, you know, people were making fun of him. Even you were when he came in to throw that Hail Mary and ate a sack. I gave him a pass in Brazil and said, look, he's not warmed up. You gotta wait and just. You're not. You're not used to the speed of the game. It's basically you've been sitting there in the Brazil cold for three and a half hours, and then they tell you, hey, keep the ball 50 yards. So it wasn't a good look, but he came out, he balled against the Colts and then he balled against the Titans. And they got the Vikings this week. I don't know if love is going to be ready or nothing. If he's not, I wouldn't have a problem going back to Malik Willis. The key is they're kind of using them like, you know, Washington uses Jaden Daniels. Short passes. Get him out in space, run it if it's. Their mobility has always been great. That's what he did at Liberty. But, yeah, I give the Packers a ton of credit for getting to two in one because it didn't look good when love went down. People are saying maybe the season's over now you can afford to sit love another week or two just to make sure that MCL sprains, right.
[00:44:28] Speaker A: Yeah, now they got that extra breathing room. Honestly, even if they lose a game or two, it's way better than what we thought they'd be right now. So they're playing with house money and the way the division is kind of getting beat up right now outside of Minnesota, which they're looking great. But maybe you guys are right. Maybe there is three teams coming out of that division in the playoffs. We'll see.
[00:44:53] Speaker B: I think it's going to be three teams if Minnesota can keep it going. We had the Vikings is not that third team. Think we had the Bears. I'm not ready to take quote unquote give up on the Bears, but I'm not hot on them coming out. I think Minnesota is legit with Brian Flores. Kevin O'Connell can call a great game on offense. They got weapons, running backs.
They've got, like we said, they got Green Bay this weekend. I think that games in Lambeau Field, that's going to be a good, good week for matchup. Divisional matchup game.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:26] Speaker A: I didn't have bears in the playoffs, but I, you know, I don't know, man. It kind of depends on how well Minnesota plays the rest of your right. They, it's all going to be on.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: The, I would say I would take Minnesota just because Minnesota is better coached.
[00:45:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Coach on all sides of the ball and Sam Darnold right now is way more progressed and ahead of schedule than Caleb Williams is. And even if Caleb does catch up, I think it would probably be too late in the year for the Bears if things continue to go the way they are.
[00:46:00] Speaker A: I just think Donald has got his ass kicked already. You know, he had a couple of years which were like up and down with the jets get, you know, that, that bad year with Carolina, but who doesn't have a bad year with Carolina and then that year with, with the Niners sitting behind Purdy. I think that's been like the, probably the best move that he could have done in his career because he got to be around Shanahan, got to be around a winning culture and now he's with like a solid coaching crew.
The Vikings, they might knock off either the Lions or the packers out of the playoffs. Like, that's what I'm thinking. There might be like a two team in the playoffs and Vikings are in it. They're, they're going to kick somebody out.
[00:46:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, we're three weeks in. We'll see how this thing plays.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: Yeah, three weeks.
[00:46:43] Speaker B: I mean, Dallas, I didn't have Dallas making the playoffs, so that's looking pretty good right now.
Manners are two and one. We didn't expect them to be two in one. We expect them to lose tonight.
Saints two and one.
Didn't see that coming. Atlanta's one and two. We had them winning the division or I think you had Tampa Bay at Tampa, but we're three games in it's. Early, but Minnesota, not only is Minnesota winning, but they're winning.
They've. They've looked the best as far as just dominating opponents on both sides of the ball.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: Yeah, most definitely. Speaking of, like, undefeated teams, I hate the Chiefs. I think I'm going to make a point of it that I hate them. And once again, they got bailed out, in my opinion, by the refs. There's no passing ferraris calls on the Chiefs. There's no offsides in the Chiefs. They're like blitzing, like a good second early. Nothing happened. Falcons, they, they kind of had mistakes down the stretch as well, but Chiefs, man, I think they're over under for the year. Was like eleven or twelve wins. And it's these. These wins, man, these ugly wins. Kind of eyes you like. New England patriots, you know, when they're on their run, can't remember who else it.
I don't know. It's just frustrating.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I mean, the Chiefs, we talk about a week to week. They kind of get outplayed and then you look up at the scoreboard and they win again. Atlanta played a good game.
We go back to clock management, you know, six and a half, seven minutes ago. They go for it on fourth down. They converted it. They went for another fourth down in that game. Same drive about four and a half minutes ago. They don't get it. Should have kicked the field goal the first time. Then he's. Then you're down 22 20. Put the pressure on the Chiefs to put together a long drive. You got time out. It's a two minute warning. Even when they go down and get a field goal, you're still in the game. They were kind of controlling the Chiefs offense at that point. And then the miss, you know, the missed PI, blatant as can be, you know, that's my homes. And, Kelsey, there's five flags on the field we already know is true. And, you know, I heard a good quote today. The NFL cares about ratings money and the Chiefs winning. And I think that showed it again on Sunday night.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just. It's just hard, man. Like, I'm.
You don't think there's preferential treatment, but then we just see this week in and week out, and it's not just us. Everyone sees it right on our faces. It's just so fresh. These guys should be only three, all right? They should be making my dreams come true. And, you know, they're already like one fourth of the way to their yearly victories in all bad games. Mahomes hasn't looked great. Kelsey hasn't really been a part of anything. I don't know if he's partying too much on, if he's, like, washed on, if they're just.
[00:49:32] Speaker B: He looked a little, like, buzzed or whatever on the sideline, man. Like, he, like, wasn't there, man. Did you see his eyes or something? He just didn't. Like he was there.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: Well, you know, it could be that mustache, like, like that hillbilly, you know, mustache look, it's not my kind of look, but I'm not going to judge, you know, uh, I can't pull it off.
Maybe you can at.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: I don't even think I want to go to that look, man.
[00:49:59] Speaker A: Um, I don't really want to talk about lions, cardinals, um, it was not a high scoring game either. I had the over, just the air. Everything was under this week. Lions got lucky to come out. Cardinals looked okay. I think Murray looks really fluid. Got the pocket a lot, had some nice throws, but it was just a tough game.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: It was a weird game. We thought this be a high scoring game. It looked like it was trending that way. 2010 at halftime.
[00:50:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: Then I don't know what happened. Arizona, offensively, they pulled your guy Kyler Murray and pinning Kyler Murphy. Maybe that was the switch they made. I don't know. They wasn't working for them offensively.
Golf under pressure, I mean, that was weird because I think right before the two minute warning in the first half, there was an interception that they neglected because they snapped it 1 second.
Sure. They counted that play.
[00:51:04] Speaker A: Definitely. They got like, what is going on? So golf hasn't looked really good either. I'm not sure as a play calling going on, Camp Campbell looks frustrated. They're, they're going through some early season growing pains right now for sure, but I've already kind of touched on that a little bit.
[00:51:21] Speaker B: Well, they're two and one, and we touched on it, too. They've not scored more than 20 points in a game in regulation this year. They scored 26 against the Rams, but they got the six points in overtime. So they scored 20 in regulation against the Rams, 16 against Tampa, and then 20 this week. Ben Johnson. I mean, I think right now teams, they're, they're moving the ball up and down, but golf's turning the ball over on plus side territory. That's something he didn't do a lot last year. And, but I think for the Detroit, the big thing is their defense, which has kind of been suspicious for them. Can they step up? Has stepped up and played really, really well. They're getting good pressure on the quarterback. They've, you know, drafted a couple corners. Yeah, that part of the ball has looked good. And I think Detroit, as the year goes on, the offense will start flowing better. They got a good matchup and we might as well go into it against the other three and, oh, team. The Seattle Seahawks.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: Yeah, Seahawks. Well, you know, they played the Dolphins that they don't got to. Geno Smith had another good game. Really well balanced.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: He had a pretty good game. I think he threw like a stupid interception from his own end zone or something.
[00:52:28] Speaker A: That's what it was.
[00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Where he was about to get sacked. Maybe he was going to eat a safety. I don't remember exactly. Just kind of just. He pulled a will Levis on us.
[00:52:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll leave it. You know, he looked really good at times. I was actually watching that game.
He just makes like some really stupid mistakes. But he has an arm, man. He definitely has an arm. If he can put it all together.
If he can put all together.
[00:52:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, he's another, another young quarterback, man, you know. Didn't make a lot of starts. We'll see. Not ready to give up on him yet, but they got weapons and you the head coach there was the OC with the Bengals, so we'll see. But Seattle, go back to them. Great hire. Like I said, seattle was our surprise team. I said Seattle could possibly win that division given the 49 ers, how banged up they are. The Rams banged up. Arizona still really young.
Say what you want about Pete Carroll. He's like the Mike Tomlin of the NFC, just wins every year. He got, he got, he got canned with a nine and eight year. I mean, Tomlin pills up nine and eight years every year, and everybody just kisses his ass over there in Pennsylvania.
This was the best hire in the offseason. I thought Mike McDaniel was going to be the guy that was going to be on everybody's radar coming from the hardball tree. He can coach defense. Seattle kind of hasn't had that defense since the legend legion of boom.
Geno. I like the offense higher. OC they brought in from University of Washington. He did a great job with pinnocks, roman doze and all those guys. Seattle's for real, man. They got Detroit on Monday night. I don't know if I'm going to be able to watch that game. I'm going to be in Vegas. Got some things lined up there, so I'll see if I can catch that one, but that's an exciting matchup in the NFC Monday night, Seattle versus Detroit.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: Yeah. So speaking of like top coaches, I know everyone else is up on Shanahan. Shannon's great. He obviously has this great offense coaching tree. But when they were up by ten points in the fourth quarter, they started playing conservative and it just like pretty played great, man, everybody's on the IR. Same thing with the Rams. And like he saw like, what, three touchdowns in there, almost 300 yards. Jennings, Juwan, he came out the plate, was like his, uh, you know, emergency outlet.
That was phenomenal. But to see them lose that game, it just felt like. So Shanahan, I mean, how many times.
[00:55:00] Speaker B: Are the 49 ers going to see this heartbreak losing games? I mean, shannons finally last year got over the hump. I think he was oh and 30 when trailing in the fourth quarter of games. And they won like two last year. Plus the NFC championship game.
[00:55:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, this person.
[00:55:16] Speaker B: And the divisional round, I believe they might have been losing going in the fourth quarter against Green Bay. Yeah, pretty like, pretty like you said, man, he's balling out for a guy making under a million dollars a year. That's the best bargain going, mister. Irrelevant. All the injuries they got. I mean, Rams have a ton of injuries. Give them a ton of credit for not giving up and fighting back because that game was 21 seven. It looked like it was over. The Rams could have just folded, given up like the Raiders did, making business decisions, quote, unquote. But they didn't do that at Sofie. They sucked it up. McVeigh and Stafford balled out, man. They balled out. And I don't know what it is, but McVeigh just, he beats Kyle Shanahan when you least expect it.
[00:55:59] Speaker A: It just, yeah, like head to head. Yeah. McBay just has something over Shanahan. But Stafford looked like Stafford of old in the fourth quarter was money. Lights out. Didn't have a ton of yards until that fourth quarter. They came back over time. I think San Francisco missed a field go at the end of regulation. Right?
A lot of weird, you know, for sure. Field goal kicking was not coming throughout this weekend. It was, it was an odd weekend, for sure.
[00:56:29] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Let's talk about Stafford, man. I mean, what a competitor, what a fighter. I mean, down basically two receivers, top guys.
A couple other receivers get banged up. That whole alliance banged up. We've talked about his Stafford, a hall of famer. He's the first ballot hall of Famer, bro. First ballot. Get him on there and get him in this. What this guy does on Sunday, the grittiness if he wasn't into Detroit for all those years, I think we would be talking about, about him higher than we talk about Aaron Rodgers. This guy would have at least two or three Super Bowls. Yeah, I think he's just as talented, if not more than Mahomes, dude. I mean, think of this guy. Ever played Andy Reed or McVeigh? Like ten years ago? Yeah.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: I think I mentioned to you when they do like a weekly poll or like a poll, you know, with like all the incoming quarterbacks in college and like rookies, you asked them like, who's their guy? You know, who's their quarterback that they look up to? Stafford's the name that came up the most. It was more than Rogers is more than anyone else who's retired recently, like in the past five to ten years. But he was the number one guy and it's kind of surprising because he was kind of tucked away in Detroit.
But, yeah, the guy's twelve years.
[00:57:41] Speaker B: Twelve years wasted there, man. I don't want to say wasted there. I mean, he was beloved there, did well, made a lot of money. But like I said, if this guy had met McVeigh 510 years ago or been with like an Andy Reid or even like a Kyle Shanahan, we'd be talking two or three Super Bowls, I think, easily for this guy. He's just that good.
[00:57:59] Speaker A: At least one more. Yeah.
[00:58:04] Speaker B: Cool.
[00:58:04] Speaker A: So we'll see what happens, man, in week four, right? Yeah, we'll go over the lines on Thursday, but it should be pretty fun as we start seeing these teams.
We're going to start seeing like, who these teams are made of. What they're made of, rather.
[00:58:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, we're going to get a better gauge. I mean, obviously we need to. I mean, handicapping right now we're hitting a little over 500 in the NFL, but it was, it's, it's a rough week, man. Some things you think you know are going to happen, you don't. I mean, if you would have told me Malik Willis 20, Andy Dalton 10 and two on the five game IR already, you know, I wouldn't take in that parlay.
[00:58:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Dolphin seasons probably over, but we'll get to that later on. And the upcoming weeks.
[00:58:48] Speaker B: You knew it was going to be a rough year for Miami when Tyreek Hill was getting arrested before the opener of the season.
[00:58:54] Speaker A: Maybe that was the.
[00:58:55] Speaker B: You knew, you knew that was like the, the writing on the wall, per se, that it was going to be an interesting year in Miami.
[00:59:03] Speaker A: I had the missing the playoffs, so I wish I had money on it a little more.
It's looking like it's going to come true. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about some, okay? It's 10:00 p.m. pacific time after Monday night football. I'm pretty exhausted from all the football this weekend. We've watched football Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. There's no off days anymore, guys. We got to fix it.
I kind of like it was just two to three days and now we have five days of football.
At least. I'm single. I'm divorced as single. So I don't really have any obligation besides my daughter. But I feel bad for everyone that has a family still.
That's gotta be pretty tough.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, like you said, rome, it's got to be pretty tough. You got a wife, kids, and gotta deal with all that all the time. But yeah, five days a week of football, it's tough, man. I mean, you talk about the players icing themselves down, going through the grind.
After Monday night, man, I'm in the ice bathtub regrouping myself, you know, get Tuesday night, Wednesday morning regrouping, handicapping the lines, getting the brain focused again and getting to work.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: Speaking of icing, man, um, I have tennis tendinitis in my fucking elbow. I can't work out right now. It's, it's been like four or five days now. Today I went to go grab my daughter's lunch pill. Had like some Mac and cheese I made from her from scratch.
[01:00:34] Speaker B: Was can.
[01:00:35] Speaker A: Came out pretty nice. By the way, guys, I'm a cook. Ladies, if you're in the Bay Area or in LA, hit me up. I felt clean. I just watched a lot of football. So you said that not see me for half the year, but other than that, I'm there.
[01:00:48] Speaker B: Hey, I think most very couples would be happy not to see the other half for six months, brother.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: Right.
But yeah, man, this elbow thing, I don't know if it's because, you know, now I'm in my mid to late thirties, not sure Andrews are trying to pile up.
[01:01:07] Speaker B: Father time, man. Father time catches up.
[01:01:09] Speaker A: This bullshit was fucking bullshit. I'm seeing my peak. Then another injury popped up. But let's talk college football. It all started Friday night. Aaron had some great games that you selected for us to watch, especially the San Jose State in Washington state. That was a fucking shootout. Double overtime. I think San Jose State was trying to win for the first time against a Pac twelve team. And like one or two decades, I can't remember what? They got awfully close to it. Washington State came back from behind and pulled out the victory.
[01:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it was a great game. I mean, I came back from having a few drinks at the bar after watching Nebraska versus Illinois. It was 11:00 p.m. here on the West coast, watching that game double all the time just to shoot out. Just a shootout, you know, you couldn't ask for anything better on the west coast, man. I mean, those East coast people, I don't know how you do it. Traveled back there a few times, you know, back there in the NBA playoffs are going and, you know, Phoenix suns are tipping off at midnight. I'm like, damn, man, I got to get to bed and it's midnight.
[01:02:09] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's gotta be tough being a sports fan on the east coast. But now it was a fun game. I really loved it. Yeah, it was late. I think my daughter fell asleep in my arms.
I had frozen on the tablet football game on the tv. Good times. The only thing that ruined my Friday night was seeing Nebraska lose.
I don't even know what happened. It kind of just looked like real. A real. How do you say his name?
[01:02:35] Speaker B: I think it's Riola.
[01:02:37] Speaker A: Riola. Yeah. It just looked like the stage was a little too big at the end of the game. Some questionable plane calling at the end, I think. And he took a big fucking sack like he got drilled at the end of that game, and that was it.
[01:02:52] Speaker B: Well, they had the great play call on, and he just missed the wide open touchdown. It was the great call. Threw it too far out in front. They had what they wanted.
Missed it.
Illinois. Give him ton of credit. Went on the road, 80,000 plus strong in Lincoln, Nebraska.
[01:03:11] Speaker A: That stadium is awesome.
[01:03:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we need to go, man. I mean, I was looking. They. They've sold out 400 consecutive games, which basically, if you do the math, I did it. I can't remember what it was. It's like 50 plus seasons. If you do seven games average at home here, that's 50 plus seasons of selling out games at Lincoln, Nebraska. That's insane. Crazy streak. I don't think I'll ever be broken. Not like a lot of these bandwagon Alabama fans. They have one bad year, they fucking throw in the towel. So give it up for Lincoln, Nebraska. Shout out to you guys. We will be making a pit stop there. Probably not this year. Funds a little low across the board trying to fund this show and get it going. So if you want to help out, there's a GoFundMe page, right, Rome.
[01:03:52] Speaker A: Yeah. We're going to get one up going. So I was going to Nebraska for my NBA.
Kind of took a pause. I should go back to see if I can get like some good student tickets for us.
[01:04:05] Speaker B: Put us up in a valet booth, man. I mean, you know.
Yeah. Unless of course it's like a game against like Ohio State and they beat him. I want to rush the field. I want to rush the field and jump up and down.
[01:04:17] Speaker A: It would be kind of cool. And that was a fun game, though. Riola. It was really funny. I think Mahomes tweeted on X. All right, you can stop pretending to be like me. Like, after he took that sack, which is kind of cold. It's kind of, it's kind of jacked up. He had almost 300 yards, I think three touchdowns. I think Altmyer is as aim with Illinois, the quarterback. He killed it. He had some plus throws, I think three or four times as well. It was, I don't know yet. Illinois, I don't know that they're going to be that good, but they're both ranked teams. I don't know if Nebraska is still ranked. Is he, are they still ranked or are they out now?
[01:04:53] Speaker B: Let me take a look. I'll take a look at that, but, yeah, but Illinois, man, I talked about it. If I think about preseason list of teams to watch for in the Big Ten, I had Illinois, Nebraska both came into this game undefeated. Illinois had a big win early in the year against Kansas. I know Kansas is kind of falling on hard times, but that's a good football team.
[01:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:11] Speaker B: Give, give Illinois ton of credit going in there winning that game.
Nebraska. Nebraska had a lot of momentum going for him. Matt rule, second year riola, he's got the same mannerism as Mahomes junior. I guess right now the only difference is he doesn't make the big throws in the clutch right now.
[01:05:28] Speaker A: Not yet, but he's also a true freshman. He's only 18. So, you know, when you consider all that and like, you have, like what? Some college quarterbacks that are 25 entering year seven. Pretty good things. Pretty good.
[01:05:39] Speaker B: Nebraska currently is out of the polls right now.
[01:05:42] Speaker A: It's all good. It's all good. It's way better than last year already.
[01:05:45] Speaker B: So it's already, I mean, six plus games since 2015. That streak is going to come to an end. So things are looking up for Nebraska.
[01:05:54] Speaker A: Very well aware of that, Aaron. Yeah, thanks for reminding me.
[01:05:57] Speaker B: You're welcome, man. That's what I'm here for.
[01:06:00] Speaker A: Let's talk about some close games, man. Cause I think Tennessee got like a lot of props this past weekend. They defeated Oklahoma. A lot of people had Oklahoma winning. Tennessee came and I think the score was a little bit closer at the end than what it should have been. But it was a, it was a manhandling, I think.
[01:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah, Tennessee was up 22 to three at one point. I think with a surprising deal with Tennessee. What I had coming into this year, I knew their offense was going to be great. They have an explosive offense coming in. They were almost averaging 70 points a game. So for Oklahoma to hold them down to 25, give them the props, but Tennessee's defense is legit. They're real, they attack, they're fast, they fly, they force turnovers. I think that's a surprising thing. Tennessee, defensively, this is looking like a playoff team, college football out of the SEC.
[01:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think a lot, a lot of people, you know, had them, you know, highly ranked, but I don't think any, anyone knew how good they were until this past weekend. So it was a big victory and now everyone notices them for sure. Just a matter of like, I think like the other top five teams, I think Ole Miss is like the only one that hasn't really played anybody. I think Ohio State hasn't played anybody either. So when we get to some of these conference games the next few weeks, like October, for sure, we're going to know who's for real.
But yeah, Tennessee killed it, man.
[01:07:18] Speaker B: So, yeah, Tennessee's one at NC State or I think that was a neutral side game in Charlotte. They went in Oklahoma. Oklahoma, they made the switch to the freshman quarterback, I think 2nd, third quarter after the other guy committed like two or three turnovers. Yeah, Oklahoma may have found something. Freshman quarterback look good, raw and he was running the ball pretty well, throwing it. He's got mobility.
They got a matchup coming up in that Red river shootout with Texas. I know people are going to ride Oklahoma off. Don't do it quite yet. That's a game to keep an eye on going forward.
[01:07:53] Speaker A: Yeah, that's going to be pretty fun.
Some other games.
I do want to talk about USC and Michigan.
I know you guys had USC winning that game and I don't know, I just want to apologize for having three college teams. Michigan is definitely one of the teams. But dude, you got, you can have.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: Multiple college teams, man. I mean, you got to have your squad and then you can have another team. I mean, my squad is. You're looking at it right there.
My second team, dude, would honestly, probably be Oregon. I was a big Oregon guy in the early two thousands with Joey Harrington when nobody knew about Oregon. Fell in love with the Ducks back then. So those are my two squads.
[01:08:36] Speaker A: Well, you know, I grew up a UCLA fan, and I've always rooted for Nebraska.
And, yeah, just, you know what I was trying, I was trying to figure out, like, why do I like Detroit teams? And I think it's from, from home improvement.
I want to do a part about. Yeah. Tv shows that could influence a whole bunch of fans, because there's no way I would like Detroit Red Wings and Michigan. And I've always liked rooting for the Lions. They haven't been good our whole lives. It didn't hurt me rooting for them, you know?
[01:09:06] Speaker B: Well, the Lions were something when we were kids because you had Barry Sanders, so we had that. We liked the Detroit Red Wings because we always used to ball out with him in NHL, 96 when Rachel, 96, winning Stanley cups with them, and then the Pistons. He always had the bad boys and whatnot, and they just.
[01:09:26] Speaker A: I'm a big Dennis Rodman guy, so, yeah, I don't know, but, dude, I thought it was a great, great game. Kale mullings. There's like a funny. Clip him with him like a superman cape on instagram, just coming in the clutch like he was dominant. He had a nice run in the fourth quarter. That kind of led to the winning touchdown. USC came back right. They were down. They finally took the lead.
Michigan, the orgy party. It was only for a party for three inches or smaller because there wasn't much on the offensive production as far as passing, like, 39 yards, I think.
[01:10:02] Speaker B: 32 yards. Yeah, three inches is smaller. And women over 250 pounds, because that was an orgy party I wanted to be a part of. We're not going to make that go.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: Oh, man, it's cold. It'd be cold, dude. So you're right, Betty.
Whoa, pause. Pause that out.
[01:10:23] Speaker B: Maybe.
[01:10:23] Speaker A: I don't know.
Hey, man, bigger left, too.
Anyways, dude, orgy can't throw for shit, man. It's like Trent Richardson who can't. Yeah. He couldn't complete a throw more than three yards, 32 yards. Guess what? It's the least amount of pass yards that they've had since 1996. But, yeah, he's not the answer, though. Like, it was just a well run game. Great running attack.
Michigan's defense is really good, but also USC's defense is really solid, too. It's just like, I think the only difference was, like, the big plays, just Michigan was able to do the big plays. They came in close interception. They had the two big rise that just opened up the rest of the field, and they were able to like, do like an allotilla. Tight end got another first down and then, you know, got some points in the board. It was really impressive for them being a top 25 team. I know you said there's a six loss team.
They don't look like a six loss team, but you don't know how the hell they're going to win every game. Like, they're just like Pittsburgh Steelers kind of ugly football.
[01:11:29] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I looked over their schedule. I'll get into what I think they can win or lose, but USC, we talked about their defense. You mentioned Michigan. Two big runs for touchdowns, and Mullens with that big run to get them inside the 20 that led to the fourth and two go ahead winning score.
USC defensively just waited too late to adjust on offense and defense. They knew.org couldn't throw the ball. They didn't get to a barefront run, stop defense till they got two big runs on them and then give Mullins a ton of credit. They had it snuffed out. Linebacker filled late safety. Broke through that tackle. Broke through another tackle. Ran 50, 60 yards down the sideline. Michigan's tough and grittiness overcame a more finesse USC team. I think USC will learn from it going forward. Michigan, I'm looking at their schedule.
[01:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm looking at two.
[01:12:20] Speaker B: Minnesota, northwestern, I think are gimme wins.
I think they lose to Oregon and Ohio State. That would put them at five and three. And then I think the other four games are all toss ups. Washington Illinois, Michigan State and Indiana. Those games are 50 50 to me. They, if they win two, two and two in that stretch, they go seven and five. So we'll see what happens. I'm. I'm really impressed with Michigan State. Just their young quarterback turns the ball over too much. That's.
Could be something that hurts you. But like you said, Michigan quarterback wise, what do they do? Do they go back to Warren? He turns them all over too much. But you got, you got a throwing game. I mean, you can throw the ball somewhat decently or she can't. They've got Minnesota this week. I'd go to the third string quarterback. I'd give him a shot of, what do you got to lose? You want to run the ball. I mean, they completed one pass in the second half to the tight end.
[01:13:13] Speaker A: I think if as long as they have, like, a top ten defense, which is what Michigan does. I think they have a chance to win all these games. They're not going to win out, obviously, OSU, Oregon, those could be losses. But you got to imagine if they just beat USC and USC has looked good this year. I imagine they're going to be one of those other teams as well.
[01:13:33] Speaker B: They get Oregon at home. Oregon hasn't looked great, but maybe Oregon figured some things out. They blew out Oregon State. They had a bye week. They play this week. I haven't looked to see where their opponent is. They kind of made some adjustments on their offensive line and turn things around. So that'll be an interesting game. They're not going to win at Ohio State. They just don't have the offense to do it. Ohio State, you got to score 30 points to beat them. Michigan's not going to do that. They've. They'll beat Minnesota this week in Michigan like we talked about. Then they go at Washington. That's a sneaky game. Steve Belichick, he knows how to call a great defense. He'll have the run scheme set up. Washington has only given up touchdown to one opponent this year. That's Washington State. The other three have not scored a touchdown against them. That will be a dogfight. Michigan probably wins it because they've just got that bully ball in them. But that's a sneaky game in the Pacific Northwest. Washington seeking revenge after the national title loss?
[01:14:29] Speaker A: Possibly.
I can see them having three losses, but it's hard for me to get to six six.
[01:14:36] Speaker B: I think it's tough if they lose to Washington. I think it looks more likely they do. Michigan State I think is better. But they get them at home, they'll lose out. Indiana at Illinois is going to be a tough game, too. We know Illinois physical can compete with the big boys. That's not a gimme win.
So we'll see. We'll see.
[01:14:59] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure now. It's a good game, though. Big win for Michigan.
[01:15:04] Speaker B: Huge win for Michigan. They needed it more than USC. You can't let a Pac twelve finesse school like that come in and beat you. And that's what I think you. USC, they learned. They learned like, hey, this isn't the Pac twelve. Welcome to the big house. Welcome to Big ten. Bully football.
[01:15:19] Speaker A: Welcome to the Big ten.
[01:15:20] Speaker B: I want to add in, I'm not surprised they lost because if you look at the Pac twelve, which used to be who was the one team in the PaC twelve that resembled any team in the Big ten? It was Utah and who always beat UsC? Utah physical football. They play physical football, defensively, run the ball. That's the closest that the PaC twelve had to a Big Ten team and always gave USC fits, at least Utah.
[01:15:48] Speaker A: In the last decade or so, for sure. Speaking of which, Utah just escaped 22 to 19 against Oklahoma State. That was a really nice game considering.
[01:15:57] Speaker B: The freshman quarterback, Isaac Wilson, Zach Wilson's brother, played the whole game. Cam rising was expected to play, didn't it? That's why we had Utah plus two and a half. Then the line changed to a pick em because I think everybody thought Cam rising was going to play Utah. Man, that defense is gritty. They're tough.
They're right now the class of the big twelve joining that conference with Kansas State, getting whipped up by BYU. No one's talking about BYU. BYU, Utah in state mormon rivalry. That's going to go down later on in the year.
[01:16:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that was the one game I checked on it.
I tend to root for Kansas State from time to time. I did not expect them to get whooped like that. They were a complete no show for a 13 ranked team to get beat up like that. It was.
It was ugly really early.
[01:16:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a weird game. They got to a six o lead, then the things just fell apart. Late. Second half. Our 1st first half. Second quarter.
[01:16:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:16:53] Speaker B: And then BYU. BYU just pitted on them. 30 was a 38 six at one point.
Yeah, pretty good, man. BYU is pretty good.
They're pretty good. They won a game at SMU two weeks ago.
Underrated. Underrated is BYU. I'm sure they're in the top 25 now.
[01:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
All Kansas State can muster is just all field goals. They got four, you know, three field goals throughout the whole game and it was just BYU from the second quarter on. It was pretty impressive.
[01:17:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm seeing BYU jump to 22 in the polls.
Funny. Kansas State, 23 right behind them.
[01:17:32] Speaker A: Really? They still stayed?
[01:17:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:17:36] Speaker A: Let's briefly talk about Northern Illinois blowing their chances with a tough loss. Man, I was like, another tough game.
[01:17:49] Speaker B: I kind of overtime.
[01:17:52] Speaker A: Overtime. They had the ball. I think they were down by a touchdown. Right. Or by a field goal. They got the field goal to tie it up. That send it overtime.
And then what happened from there?
[01:18:04] Speaker B: Well, Northern Illinois obviously coming off that big win two weeks ago against Notre Dame, got the bye week. Let all the press go to their head, you know, everybody talking about how great you are, sitting on a home and reading those paper clippings, everybody saying you're going to make the playoff. Here comes Buffalo, two TD underdog, and then you're in a dogfight dogfight, man, in northern Illinois. Just didn't have enough dog in them to get it done. Cinderella goes down again. College football story this year, man. You think you're safe? You think you're safe?
[01:18:38] Speaker A: No, it was really funny because after they, they beat jason's Notre Dame team, it was an interview with the coach where he was really happy that they're gonna have a bye week, you know, to kind of get them to reset. Cause the highest. But I honestly think that's the best time to continue your fucking season. Right? Cause you're feeling good. You gotta keep the momentum going. But having a week off resetting, not a good look. Obviously, they weren't in charge of that schedule, you know, up beforehand, but, you know, they had a. They look solid against rode. They looked really nice that they belong there. They.
[01:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, like you said, they look great. They got 1.5 million. Look great. They obviously spent it during the bye weekend because this team wasn't as prepared, didn't have that drive like we talked about.
Northern, I'm disappointed. I wanted to keep riding the Cinderella. I think notre Dame wanted him to keep winning.
Notre Dame, if they're on the outside looking in for the playoff, they may look back and say, man, we want Northern. They want Northern Illinois to keep winning.
[01:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's speak about a couple more upsets, man. Jay Madison being the shit out of North Carolina.
70 points.
70 points in North Carolina still scoring 50. I don't know. There's not like too many college football games where a team can score 50 and still lose.
[01:19:57] Speaker B: It is rare. But we did see it in San Jose State. Washington state, where San Jose State dropped 52. And happens in college football more than we think. James Madison dropped 50 in the first half. 50 burger in the first half. Yeah.
[01:20:10] Speaker A: Did you cash that game?
[01:20:12] Speaker B: I didn't, man. I didn't. I just kept, they kept showing the highlight every five minutes. And James Madison's quarterback is running it in, throwing it in. And they're like, oh, yeah, North Carolina score and they got 21 points, but they've already given up 36 and it was 43, then it was 50.
Dude, North Carolina's on, what? Their fourth quarterback, I believe.
[01:20:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not looking good. I totally forgot Mack Brown was there. So once he was being interviewed, I was like, oh, that's right.
He's been there. Like, he was there in the nineties and now he's there again. And it was 53 to 21 at the end of the first half. Like, that's. That's mind boggling.
[01:20:50] Speaker B: Look, Mac Brown's done a good job in North Carolina. Reese, resurrecting that program with Drake. May, I think he's won eight 9th games. They've been to bowl games. He's done a good job there.
We just talked about, you know, he, he was going to retire if he can't, you know, coach a defense and not give up 70 points, that, that quote was kind of blown out of line. Meg Brown's not going anywhere. He's sitting on the fat $5 million check. He's not going anywhere till somebody rides him out of town and then he's going to get paid the buyout money. I just want to say North Carolina, they did give up 70 points to James Madison, but I'll tell you straight up, right now, Florida State couldn't even score 20 points on that defense right now. I'll be honest. Florida State couldn't even go and score 20 on North Carolina right now, today. Yeah, it's pretty poor on offense, but.
[01:21:38] Speaker A: I actually haven't seen too much of James Madison. I know they're pretty brand new to like d one. So James, pretty big win for them.
[01:21:46] Speaker B: Not bad. They're not bad. They had a season last year where they were going to go undefeated and get left out of the playoff and then claim themselves national champions. They were going to pull that. They were going to pull that stunt because they weren't eligible for the playoff because this is only like their 2nd, 3rd, 4th year in the Football subdivision one.
So they weren't bowl eligible. So they were going to, but they got beat late, like last game of the year, Appalachian State or somebody beat them, but they were going to make up t shirts and claim themselves self proclaimed national champions. Going 13 and o.
[01:22:20] Speaker A: It was crazy because I was like looking up j, you know, JMU and I wasn't sure who they played to or like, I totally forgot like what conference they were in, but just like their previous game and they played against Gardner Webb. Gardner Webb is at FCS school and they barely got by 13 to six. And then the comeback.
[01:22:39] Speaker B: 13 to six against Gardner Webb. Yeah, dude, it was like 70 on North Carolina.
[01:22:45] Speaker A: Exactly. What a turnaround. I'm kind of confused.
[01:22:48] Speaker B: Like, the transfer portal is over, right. They didn't transfer all these guys in over the week. Right.
[01:22:54] Speaker A: So mind boggling.
[01:22:55] Speaker B: Wow. Wow. Gardner.
[01:22:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So we'll see how good they are. I think they play Louisville coming up.
I'm sorry they don't play Louisville. Just, I don't know who they play.
[01:23:10] Speaker B: A glitch in the system yeah. I mean, Gardner Webb, I didn't. I mean, Gardner Webb, I'd always see playing like, in basketball, getting whipped in a basketball game like 82 to 45. I didn't even know they played football. I thought they were like Cal State Fullerton. Undefeated since like 1970.
[01:23:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Now, six points. It was an ugly game. So for them to score 70 points, they definitely came to play. Pretty impressive. Bad loss for UNC, but terrible loss for UNC. Terrible loss. Speaking of terrible losses, your Memphis man also got upset this weekend.
[01:23:41] Speaker B: Navy, man. You got to be careful. Those bros will steal your signals. We already know that from the converse alley is documentary. Navy had the inside. They had the inside information. Don't know how they got it, but they got the job done on Saturday.
[01:23:55] Speaker A: High scoring, man. 56 to 44.
[01:23:57] Speaker B: Exactly. How they, how they, how they score that many points. I mean, Navy, they score 56 points all year total for all their games. That's a lot.
[01:24:05] Speaker A: Yeah. But now Navy three.
[01:24:06] Speaker B: No. Memphis was running that high, beating Florida State.
Didn't they, didn't they thought they were looking great as being a non power four group of five team. They were in the driver's seat. A lot of teams like we talked about, northern Illinois, Memphis in the driver's seat. Not no more.
[01:24:23] Speaker A: Shouldn't the bed pressure break spikes? I guess so. This is a good game. I caught a little bit of it. Rutgers at Virginia Tech.
Everyone thought Virginia Tech was going to, you know, manhandle Rutgers. But the old line, the running game from Rutgers looked pretty solid. They won 26 23, and now they're undefeated and looking pretty solid.
[01:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah, Virginia Tech's been a big disappointment. ACC, a lot of people had them as a surprise team that could contend and come out of there, win that conference.
Outside of Florida State, they've probably been the second biggest disappointment. Virginia Tech. Rutgers is good.
Underrated programs been coming up. They're getting physical. Big matchup of Washington at home. I think Rutgers can take that game in this Friday.
[01:25:09] Speaker A: And it's been a while since Ruckus have been good.
Then they played Ray Rice.
[01:25:14] Speaker B: Remember Ray Rice?
[01:25:15] Speaker A: Ray Rice. I was trying to remember when was that? But it's been a while.
[01:25:18] Speaker B: Yeah, man.
[01:25:21] Speaker A: And yeah, they play Washington this week, then Nebraska the week after, and then Wisconsin. Which Wisconsin? I don't know whether they're good or not because they've had up and down season already. And then they play UCLa and USC. That's a, that's a tough stretch, man. That's a tough stretch. This is a tough schedule.
[01:25:39] Speaker B: Whoever made the Big Ten schedule for Rutgers, they didn't give him any favors, that's for sure.
[01:25:44] Speaker A: So they, they got an easy start, you know? Is that Howard?
Well, it's Howard.
[01:25:51] Speaker B: You just, you just read their schedule, man. You got to put some cupcakes on there and get some wins.
[01:25:55] Speaker A: They got some cupcakes. Virginia Tech was not a cupcake, but it was a nice win. But Washington Nebraska, Wisconsin, who knows whether that's going to be tough or not. UCLA, that might give me how, the way UCLA's been playing.
[01:26:07] Speaker B: Then you see laden Minnesota game at. Where's that USC game? Is that at the Coliseum or they got to travel to.
[01:26:14] Speaker A: That's at the Coliseum on a Friday night in LA.
We should cash that game.
[01:26:21] Speaker B: Might have to. Might.
[01:26:24] Speaker A: Then they have Minnesota, then Maryland, then Illinois. Then they ended with Michigan State.
[01:26:29] Speaker B: That's a, that's a tough schedule, Mandy.
All those games are 50 50. Right there they are.
[01:26:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Good luck to you, Rutgers, but nice victory. And I guess you're kind of for real, so that's pretty solid. Let's talk about your Florida state finally getting the win. Congratulations.
[01:26:52] Speaker B: Thank you, my man. Thank you. They needed it. They needed it.
[01:26:57] Speaker A: Like, you know. What'd you see? What, what'd you like?
[01:27:00] Speaker B: The offense still looks disgusting.
Nothing to see there. Got a little bit of the run game going. I would make a switch at quarterback. Don't think they're going to now. I saw a lot of memes from Florida State fans, like, happy they won, but they're like, damn, we still got to stick with the same quarterback. So defensively finally showed some effort, some heart, some energy. That was big. Holding Cal to nine points. Cows. Not a bad team. They won at Auburn this year. Came in undefeated. You messaged me like, dude, what's going on? Florida State, I'm like, brother oh three. Playing against a three and o team. Be happy they're in the game and then Cal, and then the game ball has got to go to Cal's kicker. He missed two field goals, saved Florida State. I think I said Thursday Florida State would win by a late 55, 56 yard field goal, but their defense would make a stand. I got 50. I got 66% of that prediction, right. Florida state winning the defense, making the stand. I'm happy they got SMU on Saturday. I don't see a lot of wins on those schedule. That's why the hats on it might be the only one they get this year. But who knows, man.
[01:27:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So I already know how to pronounce his name to you guys.
[01:28:03] Speaker B: Quarterback, they just call him Dju. Dju.
[01:28:07] Speaker A: Dju. Yeah, Dju.
It's not that good, man. Maybe like a little overhyped. But who does forest a play next?
[01:28:16] Speaker B: SMU.
[01:28:18] Speaker A: SMU.
[01:28:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that's at SMU. So they got at SMU, followed by Clemson. I mean, I'm looking at their schedule.
I think SMU is going to beat them. I think Clemson is going to beat them. They're going to lose the Miami. They're going to lose a Notre dame. They got North Alabama later in the year. They should beat them. Then you got Duke, North Carolina and Florida.
Maybe they get three to four ones if they beat SMU. Maybe they can get to six wins in a ballgame. But that's a big stretch. I think this is a three, four one team.
I told you off the air. I think we should start a poll. Who's going to win more games is here, Florida State or UCLA?
[01:28:57] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I was actually impressed with UCLA. They came and played in the first half, at least up to, like midway through the third quarter. I was surprised that they actually had the lead right. I was like, all right, cool. Upset alert. Let's make it happen.
And then LSU just separated themselves in the fourth quarter, and rightfully so.
[01:29:18] Speaker B: Yeah, UCLA, I was surprised, but I'm more so disappointed in LSU's defense just allowing 17 points to UCLA. I mean, UCLA came into that game averaging under 13 against Indiana and Hawaii. Yeah, that's Hawaii.
And then they dropped 17 in the first half. The moving the ball, big plays. The offense looked like it actually wasn't elementary school. They knew what they were doing. But LSU, too. Too much in the passing game offensively, and then war. And then the defense finally was able to get them off the field and make some stops. We had LSU -21 disappointed. They didn't cover that. Should have easily covered it should have been a four. They should drop 45 on these guys.
[01:30:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I think out of all the top 15 teams, LSU might be the most disappointing. They don't look like a very good three in one team.
[01:30:08] Speaker B: Their defense isn't very good right now. And I know they brought in a new defensive coordinator from Missouri, but unit wise, player wise, they're out of position a lot. They miss a lot of tackles.
It's not looking good for them defensively. They're. They're definitely not in the top five, six teams in that conference right now.
[01:30:26] Speaker A: That was kind of surprising, too, because I thought they should have won against USC. So they could easily be 40 right now. But, yeah, some of these victories have been barely, barely, barely wins.
[01:30:35] Speaker B: A win? I mean, talking about barely. You got Missouri double overtime, late field goal to beat Vanderbilt, Jay Cutler's alma mater.
[01:30:43] Speaker A: Jay Cutler? Yeah.
[01:30:47] Speaker B: Andy Rogers.
[01:30:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't catch too much of that game, but I did hear a lot of people talking about, you know, Missouri should maybe just get, like, half a win or get a loss still counted against him because it was against Vanderbilt. And according to Saban, Vanderbilt's the easiest place to play in.
[01:31:06] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I saw that. Vanderbilt's the only stadium in the SEC where you actually have more fans on your side than they do on theirs.
[01:31:13] Speaker A: That's pretty funny based on this. Like, all right, so, like, we're. We're like, four weeks in, man.
[01:31:19] Speaker B: So we're like, we got to talk about it. Before you go into that Colorado, man, gotta talk about.
[01:31:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:31:29] Speaker B: Your boy, Dion. I didn't hear it. You said he got it into it again with the mediaev. What went down there, man, did.
[01:31:37] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it was more about him saying the media is a little bit jealous with how much money everyone's making in nil and all the players. And I just think.
I don't know, man. I don't know what Deon problem is. It's. It's always one thing or other. He's just. I'm a big fan of prime time, but him as a coach and this other Persona that he is now, not so much. And then. And then his son, Shador Sanders, he looked clutch. He didn't even budge when he had that Hail Mary pass, which I don't know how the hell they pulled it off. I thought it bounced off the floor. Can't believe he actually caught it. Luck. Complete luck. Another game that they could have easily lost, but now they're crediting God. It's like. Like, okay, like, so, like, God's gonna pick your team or the other team. Like, come on, dude, let's get real. Everyone's praying, but then Sidor Sanders to say, you know, he doesn't got it like that. Like, I think someone asked him, you know, what makes you, like, fight? You know, like, put in all this work and effort into these games, you know, like, because, you know, you come from, like, a. You know, like a hall of fame dad got everything you could ask for. He's like, well. Well, my dad don't got me in a trust fund like that. It's like, come on, dude. Like, you're, like, in the top 1% as a kid, right? You already drive some of the nicest cars in the world. Like, you're privileged as fuck. And he's pretending like he's not privileged. Just like everything about them just rubs you the wrong way.
[01:32:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I think they're not. Like you said, they're. The elephant in the room is like, we know you had a good upbringing. Don't act like you had it hard. Like some people.
[01:33:04] Speaker A: I know you.
[01:33:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And Shadir Sanders. This is kind of my thing with them is I would have liked to see him get away from primetime and go to another program and see how he does. I think this can be my knock on him going to the National Football League. His dad's coached him his whole life.
[01:33:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:33:21] Speaker B: And it's. It's one thing for you to be. For a coach to be mad at you. It's another thing for your dad. Like, your dad's still gonna love you like a coach. That's job relies on you to win. It's gonna say, dude, get the fuck out of here. I'm. You're going to the bench or I'm cutting you. Yeah. So I'll be interested to see what he does when he gets to the pros as far as like, hey, we work harder than everybody. God is on our side. Like you mentioned Rome, everybody prays to God every day. Everybody's working hard. No one goes out there and just goes like, hey, I prayed to God today. I'm going to win this football game. You got to go out there. You got to go out there. If that was. If that was the case, we'd all be here. Millionaires living a great life.
[01:34:01] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:34:03] Speaker B: But I mean, Colorado, their drama, they're a great story because all their games are entertaining and then afterwards, it's even more entertaining in the press room. But I think Deon, you know, he's.
He's doing well, man. He's making $5 million a year there. He's got KFC commercials, nil for his kids. They're set up for life regardless if they succeed in the NFL or not. Travis Hunter, no one's talking about him or people are for Heisman Ultra, ultra talented player. Should have went to Florida State where he was committed to, but Jackson State bought him out for a million bucks. So the rumor goes. And then Colorado, the nil.
These guys are good. They're making good money. Colorado, you know, Joe Clatt, he's. He's a homer. He loves them talking about, hey, they beat Baylor. They beat UC after big twelve contender for the playoff. You couldn't be any more wrong. Joe cloud on that. This team's not even close. To a playoff team. They may get lucky and beat UCF and pray to God twice on Saturday. I don't care. I'm. They're not up there with the big boys of the big twelve. Utah would smoke them, Arizona would beat them. Kansas State would beat them. Kansas would beat them. I can go on and on. I don't want to name ten of the twelve teams in the conference.
Colorado is fun and exciting. The culture there is kind of like, hey, us against the world. But that's where it is. Everywhere. I'm not buying it.
[01:35:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it's good for college football. Like, you know, like, yeah, like, they had no fans. Now, like, they're, you know, they're selling out, you know, arenas.
Real quick, though, do you think Travis Hunter is in the forefront to win Heisman or Sanders? Like, he's still being projected as, like, a top, you know, first round pick. Is that still going down? Do you kind of agree with that or what?
[01:35:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't have Shadir Sanders rated as the first round NFL quarterback.
I think he projects more or at least second round. But we saw from like, Derek Carr and those guys that go between like 35 and 45. He might go in the first round. We'll see.
I mean, he takes too many hits. He kind of reminds me of, like, Jalen hurts in the sense that he just kind of loses track of where he's at. Throws a lot of stupid interceptions from time to time. Takes a lot of unnecessary sacks, fumbles. Remember that game? He got sucked in the fourth quarter, I think, five times by Baylor. He does a good, he does a good job extending plays and moving, but doesn't know, like, when to give up on a play, when to run, when to throw. It sometimes forces throws. I just think his pocket awareness isn't that great. And he takes a lot of risky throws. And then again, he's, he's, he's undersized. Right? He's undersized. And I was watching him. You know who he reminds me of in the NFL? Him. Who his player comp is, for me is Tyrod Taylor. And Tyrod Taylor and Shadir Saunders are basically like the same dude. And Tyrod Taylor was a six round pick.
[01:37:06] Speaker A: That's interesting to see that, actually. So, like, Colorado schedule is pretty interesting. They play UCF next.
[01:37:14] Speaker B: Where's that? UCF?
[01:37:16] Speaker A: That's you at UCF.
Then they play now. Then they play currently ranked Kansas State. That's a loss after a bye week. Then at Arizona, which Arizona hit or miss, then. Then Cincinnati. They'll beat them, then Texas Tech.
[01:37:38] Speaker B: Where's that at?
[01:37:40] Speaker A: At Texas Tech, I believe.
[01:37:43] Speaker B: 50 50 game red Raiders.
[01:37:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And then they, they host Utah. Utah whip them, and then they end the season at Kansas and then Oklahoma State.
[01:37:57] Speaker B: They'll lose both of those games.
[01:38:00] Speaker A: You got, you got them mostly love it.
[01:38:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:38:04] Speaker A: See, like, Kazari got, like, let's look.
[01:38:06] Speaker B: Let'S look at Colorado. I mean, they won Baylor on a Hail Mary.
[01:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:38:10] Speaker B: They beat a division two team, North Dakota State or South Dakota State by five points. And a lot of people thought South Dakota State, North Dakota State. I don't remember when it was. Was going to beat them. Yeah.
Nebraska walloped them. Nebraska let off the gas. Nebraska could have beat him like 50 to zero. They just kind of let off the gas. And Matt roll. Matt Rule didn't want to make it, you know, hey, I hate Deon. I beat the shit out of him. He didn't want to get into that, so he took it easy on him.
[01:38:36] Speaker A: Right.
[01:38:37] Speaker B: And then who I. So who beat Colorado after Nebraska are. That's the only. They're three and one right now. Colorado. Right.
[01:38:45] Speaker A: Three one. Yeah. But I think.
[01:38:49] Speaker B: Can they get to six wins? That's the question. Can they get the six wins and get bowl eligible?
I don't know.
[01:38:55] Speaker A: I think they could possibly get the seven since already halfway there.
But I think they're over under right now. Yeah.
[01:39:02] Speaker B: Five and I think they're over under five and a half. Maybe it was four and a half.
They've, they've won every game. I expected them to win right now. I don't, I don't see him beating UCF. I think UCF is undefeated.
Check that up. I think UCF is undefeated.
[01:39:16] Speaker A: Yeah. They're three, you know, the big twelve.
Big win against West Virginia.
[01:39:21] Speaker B: They came back and beat West Virginia. What's a TCU? Which one did they come back and beat? Yeah, TCU. Okay, well, everybody beats up on TCU. Just ask SMU.
Yeah. UCF will beat Colorado. What's the line? They got the line out on that game. You see it?
[01:39:38] Speaker A: Not where I'm at right now. No.
[01:39:40] Speaker B: All right, let me pull it up. My guess is UC's probably a four or five point favorite. I'm going to pull it up right now. That line.
[01:39:47] Speaker A: We'll get chapter, like double.
[01:39:49] Speaker B: Let me go to the big twelve.
Wow. So I was way wrong. UCF's a 14 point favorite. 14 point.
[01:40:00] Speaker A: So let's say they lose the next two games. Let's say they won Arizona and Cincinnati.
[01:40:05] Speaker B: They're not winning at Arizona. No, no, they're not gonna beat Arizona.
They might. They'll beat Cincinnati, I believe, but they're not gonna beat Arizona.
[01:40:15] Speaker A: Texas.
[01:40:16] Speaker B: Texas.
That's a 50 game. They better pray to the gods on that one.
[01:40:21] Speaker A: They're losing against Utah. No way they're winning that.
Kansas.
[01:40:26] Speaker B: Not gonna be Kansas.
[01:40:27] Speaker A: Kansas does lay out some duds once in a while. Then they end with Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State is pretty gritty.
[01:40:32] Speaker B: So at Oklahoma State.
[01:40:35] Speaker A: No, they host them.
[01:40:37] Speaker B: They can win that game. Oklahoma State lays an egg in big games on the road.
[01:40:41] Speaker A: But they got three more ranked teams on their schedule, so.
[01:40:45] Speaker B: And they're not beating any one of them. No.
And they're 14 point underdog against UCF, so unless they. UCF, I don't see that happening.
[01:40:57] Speaker A: Yeah, the odds.
[01:40:57] Speaker B: The automakers don't see it either.
[01:41:00] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I guess we'll see how they do. Anything else you want to cover?
[01:41:06] Speaker B: I think we covered pretty much everything in college football.
Do we have any other games?
I mean, we'll get. We'll look at. I'll give you some games to watch on the Thursday pod when I break down, getting back from recovery. Tomorrow's recovery. Ice baths, massages, all that good stuff.
Get back in the flow of things.
[01:41:26] Speaker A: Do you agree with the top 25 right now?
Let's go, like, top ten real quick. Texas number one. Georgia number two. Ohio state number three. I'm pretty much in line with that.
Alabama, I don't think they've really done anything yet at number four.
[01:41:44] Speaker B: I put Tennessee above Alabama there, but.
[01:41:48] Speaker A: I also really like Ole Miss. But I know Ole Miss hasn't played anybody either, though. But I'm guessing that might be a top four team.
[01:41:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the top ten. I don't really have a problem with it.
Yeah, it looks sufficient to me right now. Yeah.
[01:42:03] Speaker A: What do you think about Michigan at number twelve?
[01:42:15] Speaker B: I guess.
I mean, I'm not. I mean, Michigan, they're not one team. Texas. Yeah.
[01:42:33] Speaker A: No. Twelve ranked teams losing six games a year. That's all I'm saying. Be tough for that to come to reality.
[01:42:38] Speaker B: They said the same thing about Florida State being pre season ten. Not losing anything could happen. Mandy.
[01:42:44] Speaker A: You're right. You're right. I just don't remember. I don't remember the last time a ranked team like this fell out like that.
[01:42:51] Speaker B: USC. USC started last year ranked number six and didn't even finish in the top 25. It happens there.
[01:42:59] Speaker A: They. They were too high. LSU at 14. That's a little too high for me, LSU is just.
[01:43:06] Speaker B: They look pretty, but without the makeup, they're not very good. Dude, I was. Iowa State at 18 is a team to keep an eye on in the big twelve. Yeah, I think Michigan at twelve is fine because everybody below them, Bernie pretty much has a loss.
We're going to find out about Michigan, man. I mean, I'm not worried about him against Minnesota, but they got, they got to be able to do something more on offense than just what they did because teams are just going to load the box, play the run and force you to pass. And I don't think they have enough playmakers on the outside and they don't have a quarterback to throw the ball.
[01:43:39] Speaker A: I think that's the most impressive thing is they don't have a.
They don't have a quarterback. They have no succession plan for Jesus. I just can't believe it.
[01:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you would think with transfer somebody, I mean, they talk about orgy like he was supposed to be like some great athlete, but everybody else that recruited him, recruited him to play every position but quarterback.
[01:44:04] Speaker A: Yeah, he doesn't look that good. He's obviously very athletic, but he wasn't even that quick. He didn't look very elusive when I was watching the game this past.
[01:44:12] Speaker B: No, he didn't. He didn't. I mean, maybe USC's defense is quicker than we think.
[01:44:17] Speaker A: Maybe. Maybe that's it.
[01:44:20] Speaker B: Because they're used to playing against quick, finesse teams. So they, you know, they were undersized and they kind of got bullied. We saw that. That's what the Pac twelve. The Pac twelve is always fit. That's been the knock on the Pac twelve. Right. Against the Big ten and the SEC and playoff games is, do they have the power to contend now that you're going to that conference and you played against the most powerful. Michigan is old school football. You know, two tight ends, a full back. We're gonna run it. Here it is. And they broke three runs. And that's all the game. That was the game. They broke three runs in the pick six and that's what won in the game. Outside of that, they didn't do anything else.
I mean. Yeah, nothing. 32 yards passing.
[01:45:03] Speaker A: I can't remember the last time a college team didn't have a quarterback and still did well throughout the season. I'm, I'm trying to remember back.
[01:45:10] Speaker B: You'd have to go back to Nebraska and those teams running the triple option.
[01:45:13] Speaker A: And that stuff in the nineties.
[01:45:17] Speaker B: Yeah, but even then I think the passing game was better.
I mean, we'll see what Michigan's got going forward. We're in agreeance. They're gonna beat Minnesota.
That game on Washington is a big game, man. It's a big game. I think Washington is gonna lose against Rutgers. We talked about it, but that 70,000 husky stadium Saturn, hopefully, it's a Saturday night game, dude, where it's just kind of misty and raining and just feels great outside where it's 65 degrees. Michigan's got their mouthpiece on. Steve Belichick out there. The hoodie. I can't wait to see that game in two weeks, man.
[01:45:57] Speaker A: It's gonna be good, man.
[01:45:58] Speaker B: Somebody wants to fly me up there, I'll go.
[01:46:03] Speaker A: Well, cool, man. Yeah, it was a. It was a packed week of football, so I'm excited it's over and could kind of watch a little bit of baseball, I guess.
[01:46:11] Speaker B: And there's so much to cover, man. We could be on this. Pod 24 7365.
[01:46:16] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what? I do want to talk about women's basketball at one point. We're in the playoffs now, Kaylan Clark got manhandled in her first playoff game, but maybe do the next pod.
[01:46:30] Speaker B: Yeah, she did win rookie of the year, right?
[01:46:34] Speaker A: I think so, yeah.
Unanimous. Rookie of the year.
[01:46:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I heard that.
[01:46:40] Speaker A: At least AP. I'm not sure. Like, the w. The WNBA is kind of weird.
It's a lot of drama unfolding it. You know, just everyone's so jealous of Caitlin Clark bringing all this attention. And, you know, she dominated, man. She was fourth in MVP voting.
But.
[01:47:01] Speaker B: I mean, she's brought a lot of attention to the sport, and it's positive. I mean, they're selling out 20,000 people in arenas. WNBA?
I mean, there's teams in the WNBA that their whole season home attendance never got to 20,000 before. Caitlin Clarke.
[01:47:16] Speaker A: What's crazy? Like, the craziest stat, and then we'll just leave it on that. But, like, Caitlin Clark had more televised games than what the Lakers going to have this year.
[01:47:24] Speaker B: I don't have a problem with that.
[01:47:30] Speaker A: I'm not looking forward to basketball season, man. I'm not looking forward to it.
[01:47:34] Speaker B: It's right around the corner, man. I just seen. I just seen that NHL preseason just started, man.
[01:47:39] Speaker A: Really?
[01:47:40] Speaker B: We got. We got to go a couple games, man. When you're down here, man. Ducks gotta go. A couple ducks games. Yeah, we gotta go to San Jose. Got that number one draft pick, too, man.
[01:47:48] Speaker A: We gotta go. Yeah, we'll get to it. We'll do a full NHL preview. We have enough guys that bring mister.
[01:47:54] Speaker B: We'll make Mister Chicago open up his checkbook and take us to a game, man, he owes.
[01:47:59] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. We'll do.
Yeah, we'll do NBA previews soon, but.
Yeah, man. Week four in the books for college football. Week three in the books.
Gonna be hell of a season.
[01:48:12] Speaker B: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun.
[01:48:15] Speaker A: All right, man. Well, I'll catch you on Thursday. Jason will be with us. We'll definitely talk a little baseball. Looking forward to it.
