Lando Cruises in Mexico, Kelly Axed in the Bayou, Plus Steelers Get Too Much Packers' Love | NFL Week 8 Recap & Reactions

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:03] Speaker B: What'S up everybody? Welcome back to source from the sofa. It's me, Rome. We got Jason and Aaron. We're going to recap the NFL Week 8. It was a hell of a week for against the spread contest. Not a great week for me. I got the shittiest record. Jason got one better. If you caught our picks and predictions we had identical picks aside from one game and that was the difference. And Aaron not much better but did come away with the with the 500 record at 6 and 6. But that's one week I want to toss away so badly. So badly. We're recording Monday night just right before 8:30 and commander's chiefs we all had the commanders with the plus 12 and a half. A lot of books today had it at 11 or so and it was just not a great game. So I really don't have much to say about it unless you guys want to give your like little 2 cents on the Monday night showdown. [00:01:11] Speaker C: All right, I got zero cents for you. [00:01:16] Speaker A: I will say this, the Commanders get. [00:01:19] Speaker B: A healthy quick Jaden Daniels, they mailed that game in. [00:01:24] Speaker A: I feel like kind of weird game man. I mean the first half really a lot of energy and second half complete opposite. [00:01:31] Speaker B: I just don't get it. [00:01:32] Speaker A: I mean I wonder the inside, I wonder if the inside information was bet Commander's first half and chief second half. It sounds like I didn't get that inside info from whoever's releasing it. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Dude, even Mariota looked pretty good at least in the first half. I was like okay, moving around, scrambling, getting out of the pocket. Unfortunately he led the team in carries and rushing yardage. That's not good. Never want your 30 something year old quarterback to do that Pat. Mixed bag, couple interceptions, but does get three TDs, almost 300 yards. I guess that just kind of like lines it up for the Kansas City Chiefs to face the Bills next week. They got some big games upcoming that should make a pretty big impact and power rankings and playoff positioning and all that good stuff. But Commanders, I was expecting something totally different and. [00:02:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I think you touched on it maybe two weeks ago or last week. Rome like that we, we touched on it. Remember that Commander's Bills game? Whoever loses it, their season just seems to go south and Commanders lost that one. So maybe their season's gonna end up a lot like the Bears did last year. Just going south where they just don't do anything right for a while. [00:02:43] Speaker B: It's just so weird man, because they go to Chargers, right? They go to Sofi and shock everyone. They look really good in there. Lose a tough one against to the Falcons. Beat the shit out of the Raiders. Lose a tough one to the Bears. They got beat by the Cowboys though. That was not good. Maybe this is the team. Maybe this is the team. [00:03:04] Speaker C: I mean, Aaron might have called it there if you. If you did the flip in the Bears game. Yeah, a year, a year ago, The Bears lost 10 straight after they had that loss to the Commanders. The Commanders have lost two more since that loss then. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah, and the funny thing is the Commanders Bears had the game last year, one Commanders hadn't won this year. Jaden Daniels, the ball doesn't slip out of his hands. The likelihood is the Commanders go on to win that game. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I did three straight losses for the Commanders. They drop to. I don't have the record on me. 3 and 5. 3 and 5. Let's get into the rest of the week though, as the Dodgers and Blue Jays game is in the background stressing me the out. Stressing. [00:03:48] Speaker C: I feel this. It's going to be a very distracted recording as like one of us is talking and the two others are just like staring off in the. In the distance watching this game right now. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Well, I'm sorry, I'm having like a slight panic attack right now. Like, I don't think the coffee Rome. [00:04:02] Speaker A: It's only game three. [00:04:03] Speaker B: Nah, man, it's. It's. All these games matter in the Toronto. They're just hitting really well right now. [00:04:10] Speaker C: Toronto get the bats, man. We talked about the last series. You know, I don't. We didn't really even get to talk about, I mean, game one at all. Just. I don't even. That inning was wild. [00:04:22] Speaker B: It was wild. But I'm glad it was a blowout because, you know, it's tougher losing a close one like this one. It's gonna have like a scar. The first one I was like, okay, at least we got blown out. We can kind of reset. And they responded wonderfully with that complete game. But. All right, so let's go Back to the NFL Week 8. We had a blowout win from the Chargers when we were. Oh, this was the day before. So we already kind of talked about this game. And then we had some. Quite a few upsets. I was feeling pretty good about our picks, Jason, and. And you kind of edged a few games like the way I would. There's a few changes. When I talked to you briefly on the phone earlier, Aaron, there was two games I would have switched based on like that day of. But other than that, though, it was Just not a good day. Giants that's a big loss right when Scatterby went out that whole thing changed. And that non fumble that was a fumble on the tush push that like they're like they're just not going to ever call it correctly. Like now you got even Rich Eisen saying that they just gotta get rid of the play because no one can ever call it that was a fumble. That and the scatter boot injury totally changed the trajectory of that game because the Giants were playing good in that game and that would have definitely covered so kind of pissed off on that. That got you the the difference of the win. Jason was that game. [00:05:38] Speaker C: I mean does it, does it, does it matter? I mean you're throwing this week away for how bad it was overall. [00:05:43] Speaker B: It was very bad all also the Falcons remember I was talking about like you know like I just want to take the Dolphins with with the points on this one. More information was released day of certain guys were going to be playing and Dolphins came out. That was one I, I wish I could take back. Jets blew our minds right. You know we're like it was bound to happen and they lit a really good on fire Bengals team with the revived 40 year old quarterback Texans kind of manhandle the 49ers wasn't really that close. [00:06:15] Speaker C: The Niners one is when I would have had back Ramos just going into it how yeah the Niners were I, I may be a little biased against the Texans at this point. Just not confident that they can protect CJ Shroud and but I mean this was a game that the Niners are just so banged up it felt like a game. I mean I had friends that were Niners fans that said hey this was an easy Texas win. I I, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't switch that jets one though fourth quarter. You know Bengals. No that was the, that was maybe the Bengals defense. We all kind of knew going into the season where Burrow was gonna have to bail them out. But a 23 point fourth quarter for the jets overall like I, I at halftime I was like all right that was an easy call this Jets. [00:06:56] Speaker B: I actually marked it as a W and I had a how to market off. [00:07:00] Speaker C: I'll be, I'll be honest Roman. I pulled this up right now. I knew the jets won but I looked at again I'm like oh the jets won. I just still was associating it. The Bengals won that game. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah. What else, what else weird happened. I think that's about it really. Everything else was just kind of like, you know, ballsy calls that we just didn't get. Biggest win or biggest loss of the week. Should we break it down like that? [00:07:24] Speaker C: Sure. [00:07:24] Speaker B: Aaron, you get the pick? [00:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah. You might as well start with the biggest win. [00:07:28] Speaker B: All right, let's. Why don't you nominate a couple of teams with the biggest win. [00:07:32] Speaker A: I'll start with maybe the Ravens. I mean, we've kind of. They were one in five. Every other team in that division lost. I mean, Bengals, Jason just touched on. I mean, I thought they had the game, a 15 point lead in the fourth quarter. [00:07:45] Speaker B: I think that was the. [00:07:46] Speaker A: That was either the largest or second largest comeback for the jets being down in the fourth quarter in their franchise history. So you get the Bengals, the Steelers, both losing at home. The Browns, they're not very good. And then you get the Ravens, who, you know, schedule lines up, you know, nicely, maybe getting some bodies back. Lamar is supposed to be back Thursday. That's a big win for them because, you know, we touched on that. I think 8 and 9, 9 and 8 maybe wins that division and gets you in a playoff and you're hosting a playoff game. [00:08:12] Speaker B: People were not happy with how they were handling the injury report, especially with Lamar Jackson. He was practicing at a full practice on Friday. Even had one on Saturday. And then all of a sudden, when I think when we. When we were recording Friday, when we were talking about the games, like, wait a minute, Tyler Huntley, like, he knows his offense, like that might be a good pickup. Had a pretty good game. Nothing crazy, like no crazy stats, but did well, use his legs. Had some really tight throws. And Derek Henry, kind of like a little flashback. Had a couple touchdowns, not too many yardage, but they used them pretty well and efficiently. And then the Bears offense just looked a little shaky at times. So from what I saw, yeah, I. [00:08:52] Speaker C: Mean, that was the game I was locked into, obviously the entire entire morning slate. But the Bears just totally are not getting anything done within the five yard line. They kicked field goals for the first two drives. They were going right down the field, stalled. They ended up just six nothing in the first quarter where they should have scored touchdowns have been up 14 nothing. We're going to change the trajectory of the game. But after that, offensively, after the first quarter, they really had nothing. Like the offense went nowhere. The defense for the Ravens really kind of tightened up the running game because they started getting the swift and Kyle Menung guy going in the first in the first quarter. That's what was opening things up for Caleb, for some nice passes. To A Dunes A and and some other guys. But overall the Bears defense continues to be a weaker part of this team where you know they give up a lot of yards. I think, I think in the broadcast they said the Bears may give up the most like yards per play in the league but they have you know, some of the most turnovers which gave you that four game winning streak. [00:09:49] Speaker A: And. [00:09:49] Speaker C: And do we get someone honorable or is a home run? I don't know. Your face is thrown. [00:09:54] Speaker B: No, it should have been a fucking strike. It should have been a fucking strike. And they called it a ball. [00:09:57] Speaker C: Gotcha. All right, cool. So interrupt this for your. Your Dodgers in game right now. [00:10:01] Speaker B: But not fucking happy. [00:10:02] Speaker C: But yeah, I mean the Bears just didn't get the turnover in that game. I think what you speak of Huntley so much in that was he didn't turn the ball over. Yeah. And they were able to. He was able to make some big plays. And when the Bears aren't getting turnovers, this is kind of the end result where you look at their four game winning streak that they may have given up. They were the bend but no break defense but they were getting turnover. That put us in a position to win. So Yeah, I think Aaron's right. I think it's a big win for the Ravens because it keeps them alive at 2 and 5. Bad loss by the, by the Bengals. You know, the Steelers seemingly could have, you know, started to put things away a little bit. But at 4 and 3, you know you got a lot of interdivision games. You're gonna be playing the Browns a little bit, you know. Yeah. That they're still like they're still alive. [00:10:42] Speaker B: Steelers are such like fool's gold and like now that's like what like four or five seasons in a row. They just start a hot and then this is actually a little premature that they start the little downfall. You usually do this in end of November, early December, but I'd rather them just rip it, you know, rip all the faith in and positivity right now. So I know not to rude for them. We'll talk about the Steelers game later. I'm not ready for that. But big game though. You're right Aaron. That's their favorite to win the division. Now Ravens, I think they're like minus 170 something on a lot of books. [00:11:19] Speaker A: Even going in the game this last weekend. I think there was still like plus 200 odds. So you don't see a team 1 in 5 ever plus 200. Usually they're already plus like 1500 or something. So, yeah, Ravens, we know they were banged up. I mean, Jason had touched on up at the Bears secondary. A lot of injuries on defense. They just, they just couldn't compete as that game wore on, and their offense did not do enough early to gain the advantage with the lead. So big win for the Ravens. Yeah, no turnovers. Their defense, maybe they start figuring out, I mean, this is Baltimore team last year that was ranked what, 25th, 29th pass defense. The first 12 weeks, the last six of the season, they were ranked in the top five. That led them to the second round, divisional round of the playoffs. So we'll see. I mean, Baltimore, they're a scary team. They get hot and get in. You don't want to play them especially they get healthy. [00:12:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And you know, I just want to say a personal you to the Browns for trading Flacco to the Bengals. And, you know, at the very least, the Steelers should be 5 and 2 right now. @ the very least. So this, this division's up for grabs. Another big victory. Jason, you want to nominate one? [00:12:31] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I think there was two. And they were, you know, pretty big favorites in it. Rumskin just super excited. Throw him out of third. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Yeah, he did. [00:12:40] Speaker B: That was a nice throw, dude. That was a nice throw. Vlad had a nice throw early in the game and got Teosco trying to steal. I was, I didn't know he can throw like that. [00:12:51] Speaker C: VLADY jr. We interrupted for this Dodger Blue Jays World Series update mid game. Yeah, I, I think, I think there's a couple big wins this weekend against maybe some overly favored. The Bills again, have it gone. Haven't really played any of the big teams and they've had, you know, a couple questionable losses. The Panthers, you know, not we considered a great team in the beginning of the season, but hey, we're three and oh, at home. Four, four and three. Overall, the Bills looked, you know, pretty bad on the road and weren't really closing the deal against some bad teams. And they really made a statement, I think, putting away a team that they should beat handily. So I think that was impressive. I think the other one was the Eagles. I think a lot of questions when it came to the Eagles, they on paper, talent wise, best team in the nfc, but they're just trying to push, push, push their way to victory. But, you know, they've gotten some things going in the past game, but then Saquon really has kind of hit his stride a little bit. 14 carries, 450 yards in that game. [00:13:51] Speaker B: Finally broke out yeah. [00:13:53] Speaker C: Yeah. So I think that was probably a telling thing for the Eagles. As you know, they can, they can start, you know, they can start taking control of that division and start going away with, you know, the commanders falling off right now. The Cowboys with another loss. The Giants, you know, losing scatter, boo. And then, you know, them putting them down. So I think that was a pretty big win for them. Yep. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Tough loss for by the Giants, man. I feel really bad losing all their young talent. [00:14:21] Speaker C: I would say the other one. Rome. I know you only took me pick one. I think, I think the Broncos too, because you start looking at this Broncos team right now in a super competitive AFC west. We called this probably, you know, second best division in football at the start of the year behind the NFC north because you're. They're going to have three top teams and it's, it's delivering right now with the Broncos at six and two, you know, you have the Chiefs now at five and three. You got the Chargers sitting at five and three and so super competitive. And now you get, you get the offense is really starting to click here. I know it's not the greatest defense in the Cowboys, but you saw a lot of different players in that game making plays offensively, you know, for the Broncos. Would you. Had, you had Franklin have two touchdowns in that game. They had the rookie R.J. harvey got involved. I think Pat Bryant. There was just a lot, there was a lot of different things offensively. Bo Nick seemingly kind of finding his stride a little bit the last couple weeks. And you know, they're going to play at the Texans, who they should be. They're going to play the Raiders twice in the next like five weeks in the Jags and the Mars team. So I mean the Broncos hitting their stride, got a lot of winnable games down the stretch. Still two games against the Chiefs and another against the Chargers for a revenge game at Mile High. So I mean, I think that's a pretty big win. I think that the only thing about that one is certain is going to be out a couple weeks. And so now the offense really needs to start clicking because you're going to have losing some pieces on the defense. [00:15:51] Speaker B: I thought it was a pretty big win, especially for stopping that high octane Cowboys offense. You know, they held him to 24 points. Couple interceptions by Prescott. His worst game of the year so far. We've been talking about how this Broncos defense has not stepped up all year round and they really delivered with the big win here. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Yeah, big, big defense there by the Broncos. But I Think more importantly, the offense, right. I mean, did nothing for six quarters. The last five quarters they've scored, what, 77 points, I think it is. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah, they. [00:16:22] Speaker A: They got the run game going. I mean, I said last, you know, on Friday, this was a get right game for the Broncos on that offense. [00:16:29] Speaker B: You're right. [00:16:30] Speaker A: That's what it was. Because now they get a tough Texas team on the road. I believe that's gonna be a tough battle with that defense. [00:16:38] Speaker B: So. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, agree with all the big wins. I think another big win, too. Impressive. You know, maybe the second best team right now in the afc. The way they're playing, you could argue the Chiefs are. But the Patriots, Patriots are playing really good football. They dismantled the Browns, who a week before dismantled the Dolphins. They're six and two. No one's talking about that. But the patriots are in first place. [00:16:57] Speaker B: In the AFCs, so that's crazy, man. And Drake May playing lights out. Lights out, yeah. [00:17:04] Speaker A: Drake May's looking good. That offense is looking good. More importantly, that defense is looking really good. And they still got another home game against Buffalo late in the year and a couple matchups with the Jets. So, I mean, the Patriots are. I think they're a playoff team. [00:17:20] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm pretty sure we had them on the fringes of being a playoff team in our season preview is one to look out for and amazing. I mean, them being at 6 and 2 right now and think about their two losses. That Steelers game where they turn the ball over, what, like five times or. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Something like that, and then zone by the goal line. So. [00:17:37] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And they. In that Raiders game at the start of the season where they just never got anything going. So, I mean, it's a team definitely on the rise, winning five straight right now. And, you know, we'll have some tough games coming up with the Falcons and the Buccaneers. But you're right, Aaron, like, you know, first place in this division, they're going to have some showdown games with the Bills here toward, you know, towards the end of the season, because they really got like the Buccaneers, Falcons and then the Bills and then you got a big Ravens game later on in the year. But, you know, they got two games against the Jets. They got another Dolphins game. You know, there's some. There's a lot of wins in this team for all of a sudden, they can. You can see them getting to 11 wins, you know, fairly soundly on this schedule. [00:18:21] Speaker A: Yeah, schedule lines up pretty nice. I mean, the Atlanta, that game's in. Is it Spain? Is that the game that's in Madrid. I know. It's an international game, right. I'm not sure which one. I'll go by Patriots versus Atlanta. Is that an international game? [00:18:35] Speaker C: I don't think so. It's at 10:00am all right. [00:18:39] Speaker A: No, it's not. Okay. [00:18:40] Speaker C: I don't think so. [00:18:41] Speaker B: You're talking Falcons, Colts. That's the next. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Okay, that's what it is. All right. I know that they played them coming up so. All right. [00:18:47] Speaker B: That's a week 10. [00:18:48] Speaker A: I was looking at week nine so I knew Atlanta was one of the teams. I wasn't sure if that was this week but yeah, I mean give a lot of credit to. We've talked about coaches on this that are good offensive coordinators and terrible head coaches. Josh McDaniels has called a hell of a year so far. The offenses look great. A lot of mix up formations in the run game maze look awesome. Like you mentioned Rome. But please don't be fooled. Do not give this guy another head coaching gig. He's not good for it. [00:19:12] Speaker B: But as far as going off and. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Getting plays for the Patriots. Yeah, hit him in the Patriot hall of Fame because this guy knows how to call plays. [00:19:19] Speaker C: It's funny because there was for a very long time, you know after he, after he didn't have the, the great stint in Denver and then eventually Weighs Bay made his way back to the Patriots. I thought for the longest time he was going to be the coach in waiting for Belichick and then ended up taking that. You know that that was what I always thought was the internal succession plan for he then he left and took that. Remember he took the Colts job and then like decided he wasn't going to. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Take Renegade and I think that's when like you're talking about Jason. I think he got kind of win that hey hang around here, you're the next guy. [00:19:51] Speaker C: Yeah. And that that was the moment where I was like okay, cool. Like they're just promising him the future and then guess I don't like if you got impatient and then took that Raiders job and then it didn't work out again. So crazy how things, yeah crazy how. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Things have turned out. [00:20:04] Speaker C: But I agree with Aaron like a guy I think you could always fall in love with as an offensive coordinator because he's gotten the most and when you think about the Patriot offenses over those years where you know he crafted it in some different ways. I know you give a lot of credit to, to Brady and Belichick and stuff but we think about hey, they had the Randy Moss Offense, but then they also had the two tight end offense with Gronk and everything. You know, different ways, you know, different ways they've used the running backs. Never really had a top wide receiver after Moss, but figuring out creative ways. [00:20:32] Speaker B: The offense and that, that Gronk and Hernandez pairing killed, literally, literally killed defenses. All right. [00:20:45] Speaker C: Yeah, it did. But you think about how revolutionary it kind of was at the time where they, hey, all of a sudden, hey, these guys are just putting two tight ends that are. You're like primary receivers. And then what they've, you know, where are they growing for slot wide receivers and, you know, pretty much made it fashionable with the Edelmans and Welkers and Amendolas and stuff to have, hey, this like six. [00:21:04] Speaker A: They made it so white boys could play wide receiver in the NFL. Fair, maybe that gave, that gave me, Jason Hope when we were playing high school football, like, hey, you know, Patriots, these guys, you know, they set people up, man. [00:21:15] Speaker B: I'm trying to decide after like all these wins that we talked about, like, who had the biggest win. And I keep on going back to the packers, like, that sticks out the biggest for me. Like Steelers, I don't know what's going on with that defense. Highest paid in the NFL. They don't look a semblance of what they did last year or years past. Offense is looking okay. I'm liking the Rogers thing tomlink their OC pairing. I think they're efficient. They just didn't look very good in the second half. But the packers looked really nice in that second half Sunday night. And I, I don't know, like, this is looking like the biggest one of the week, quality opponent, boost up that, that resume a little bit. [00:21:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, at Pittsburgh, I think this was a game for Jordan Love in primetime where you, you start saying, hey, this is, this is the franchise guy. You know, you look at a lot of debate within that division where you got Jared Goff who had been, you know, so impressive, and you know, Caleb Williams maybe on the rise, maybe not. But Jordan Love, he's had some really great games, but has had some questionable games as well too, you know, but this Packer season overall, Besides that weird 40 to 40 tie that I don't think anyone to this day could explain, and then the really bad loss to the Browns where, I mean, you know, us three and I think a lot of media was really crowning the packers after they really, you know, clam down the Lions in week one defensively and were able to, you know, put a good offensive performance There, you know, they bounced back from that lost tie when they were 21 and 1 and had some solid wins against, you know, beat up Bengals team, kind of a beat up Cardinals team. But this is, this was a statement win where they're at. And then, you know, then there's life down their schedule too where the pay they got to play, they're going to play the Panthers and then a big showdown with the Eagles on Monday night on November 10th. And that, you know, that could be, that's a big, that's a, that's a kind of maybe an NFC championship type of preview type game when you look at that, you know, two weeks down the road. [00:23:09] Speaker B: All right, so with the Steelers loss, man, that was a big loss. They probably should have beat the Bengals, but that's just the way it is, right. They lose another one. So back to back losses. Now their schedule upcoming, it's going to get a little tight. They got Colts next week, they got the Chargers after that, which I still want to go to that game. They got the Bengals. [00:23:31] Speaker A: I'll sum it up for you, Rome real quick. The Steelers are in trouble. Yeah, I mean let's just not beat around the bush. They're in trouble. That schedule. [00:23:38] Speaker B: Then they got the Bears and. Which I don't have really have an opinion. [00:23:43] Speaker A: That's Chicago. That's actually Chicago game. [00:23:46] Speaker C: I think the only way, the only reason you feel about good about that is because Aaron Rodgers owns the Bears, so he'll come up for that one. [00:23:53] Speaker B: Well, if it's cold too, like the Steelers, you know, show up for these cold games and it's gonna be at the end of November, then they got the Bills, Ravens, you know, it's, it's a tough five game stretch right now. Like I feel like they're hating themselves for not at least getting one of these wins. That was a tough, tough loss. Other bad losses or tough losses. [00:24:11] Speaker C: Atlanta. I don't think there's a week I can go by and understand this team at all. No, I just, I just don't like, I just like one week look great. [00:24:21] Speaker B: One week. They don't. [00:24:22] Speaker C: I just, I just don't. [00:24:24] Speaker B: That Bills game, you know, them dismantling the Vikings. [00:24:31] Speaker C: Yeah, the commanders when we thought they were kind of good at that point, I mean. But you lose this. The Niners game. Okay, the Niners, you know, they, they, they got something about them here. But you know, the Dolphins have been almost lifeless the entire year and to get beat and just beat bad too. I mean it just wasn't close. They didn't get anything going with Bijan. I thought that was gonna be a huge game for Bijan. Robinson just never clicked. But I mean, week to week, I have no idea what's going on with this Falcons team. I don't think it looks any better for them because they got to play the Patriots and they got to play the Colts. Yeah. I just. It's a team. And now for two years, we've been waiting to break out and kind of take ownership of that division, and now they're sitting here third in the division with a minus 34 point differential right now. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, Atlanta, it's. I kind of want to give them a pass because they played. Kirk Cousins and Drake London are out. You know, Pinnocks and Drake London are out. Kind of like last second scratches. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:28] Speaker A: And then you got Kirk Cousins. I looked, you know, I don't know if he's 38, 39, whatever age, but he looked 50 in that game because he looked. He looked garbage. And there's. I mean, I don't know if they were trying to maybe try to shop him around before the tread deadline, but I'm not buying. I'm definitely not buying that. I mean, he looked terrible. And they got no run game going. I think Bijan fumbled for the second time this year. I mean. Yeah. I mean, Atlanta's been up and down. They've got. [00:25:54] Speaker B: That might have been like the worst loss of the. Of the. Of the week. I think that. [00:25:57] Speaker A: I mean, at home against a team we all said on Friday, basically, Miami looked like they had quit. The Dolphins look like they've thrown in the towel, they'd quit. But once they heard Kirk Cousins was playing and Drake London was out, they got up for that game. They got the smells all out, and they got up for that game. Out of them. Out of the Falcons. Yeah. [00:26:18] Speaker B: You know, 49ers. [00:26:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:19] Speaker B: You know, they're banged up, so they're bound to lose one of these, I guess, maybe worse loss. Besides that, probably just Steelers and then the Commanders Commanders, Panthers. They just did not show up this week. They just not show up. [00:26:33] Speaker C: I mean, we already talked about it, but I still think the Bears loss was pretty bad, too. If I looked at the beginning of the season, this was a game that I would. Said the Bears would have lost to Lamar Jackson. But you get. You get the backup quarterback in there. I know you. The Bears were down to their third, fourth, and, you know, their fourth, fifth and sixth corner as we were talking about in the preview, but, you know, they held him in Check defensively in the first half and the offense is what, you know, a lot of people in Chicago media and even national people is the, Caleb is, Caleb is the lightning rod of kind of all talk right now. Like every, everyone in that, in that quarterback class. [00:27:05] Speaker B: I was going to ask you, I was going to ask you, like, are you listening to all the media chatter about Caleb right now? [00:27:10] Speaker C: I mean it's constant, nonstop. It was last year and it's going into this year, so it just never stops. [00:27:15] Speaker B: It was a lot today. [00:27:16] Speaker C: Oh, it was a ton. Because like it's so reactive, you know, week over week. Because when they win, you know, you can't play much about it when he's not lighting, lighting it up. I, I think there are still things to work on with Caleb and you know, there, there is tools that Ben Johnson utilized with him that are not Jared Goff that you don't want to, that he even says you don't want to. You don't want to take some of these special things he does away from them. But there's still things that he needs to improve on. The biggest thing overall is going to be like, what is his accuracy going to be. Yeah, because I don't think he's ever going to be the accurate NFL quarterback. They talked about the broadcast, they talked about it. Weeks were just like, you know, he's going at like low 60% completion, you know, and that just doesn't get it done in the NFL a lot of time, even when you make some big plays. And there's just seemingly not always a loss of rhythm with him. You know, he can't get the rhythm going and it gets him into longer. And the biggest thing with the Bears is the penalties. Beyond that too. They're one of the most penalized teams in the league that just takes away and put us in, in, in, in bad. Now some of these penalties, I'll say like as you know, there's some terrible refereeing going on. There was another, the, the clinching play from DeAndre Hopkins. He basically face masked the defensive back to seal the game. That, that wasn't called again. [00:28:25] Speaker A: So that, that refereeing was bad. I mean the Bears got host on a few plays. They got lucky on the forward progress because that was not forward progress. Should have been an interception for Baltimore. So the referees did kind of throw him a bone back down. There was. [00:28:36] Speaker C: There, there was. I can't. I. You're keeping me in check. And you're absolutely right, Aaron. [00:28:39] Speaker A: So. [00:28:39] Speaker C: But, but I won't say the face. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Mas fourth down two play right. [00:28:43] Speaker C: I believe fourth down conversion. Yeah. Face mask on offense not called, but. [00:28:47] Speaker A: One on one, no one else in the field to view. That's the easiest call to make. [00:28:51] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, Aaron's checking me, right? You can't take. You can't take the penalties is the reason the Bears lost that game. Like, you got to score more points. Like, it's. You can't settle for field goals. And like, the other thing is, like, the Bears got the only kicker in the league that can't kick it beyond 43 yards, too. And so they. They activate Cairo, Santos back to the active squad and put Moody back down. Like, I don't care. Like, get me the guy I wasn't texting, my one friend. I want both kickers active. Anything 40 or less. You have Cairo, anything like 45 or more, have Moody out there. I mean, we got to be able. [00:29:25] Speaker A: To, like, why not have some, like, specialist over here? [00:29:28] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, do something else. I mean, how valuable this is if it's. If the accuracy of Cairo is where we're at. But we need the additional leg. I mean, someone find the roster spot because it seems to me at this point we got to have those because, you know, Cairo coming up short on like a 54 yard or whatever it was in the first half. Like, you can't come up short on anything like less than, like less than 60 at this point in this league. [00:29:51] Speaker A: I agree. I don't know if we touched on this team is one of the biggest losses of the week. But the Bengals, The Bengals losing that game, that. That's a huge loss. I mean, we talked about Baltimore getting a big win, but the Bengals could have gone to four and four, sitting there pretty nice. Two wins in a row. They get the lonely jets. Jets scored 39 points in that game. The jets has only scored, what, 18 points over the last two games combined. That just shows you how bad this defense is. And if they lose Trey Hendricks, which they lost early in that game, they've got no pass rush and they can't stop anybody. No Wonder he's getting $30 million a year. They might want to give him 60 million just to freaking pit. It's a fake leg on him and get him out there, because Bengals, I don't know what to make of it. I think Zach Taylor's on his way out. He's going to get fired. He's going to be a casualty here. And, you know, they moved off Lou Amarilla, who's killing it for the Colts on defense with my guy Steichen. Bad move there, Rome. You were calling for him out the door last year. He's not going to survive this year. [00:30:49] Speaker B: I think you're right. I think you're right. I don't think we have like a coach's hot seat going on yet. [00:30:53] Speaker C: I mean we talked about McDaniel, but I don't think you've listed your like top. I mean you got a certain point last year, you're in your Rome's top five coaches hot seats. But I agree with Aaron. [00:31:03] Speaker B: You. [00:31:03] Speaker C: This, this was a win that they should have had. Obviously we talked about. I thought they did have it. And it was a win that puts you at 4 and 4 going versus the Bears at home next week, which is. It's a winnable game for the Bengals. And then you, you go into after the Bears game, they got at Steelers, Patriots at Ravens at Bills home. Ravens. Like I just. That's a juggernaut five game stretch. [00:31:32] Speaker B: I just realized something and we probably should have paid attention to this when we're doing our picks. As bad as the jets have looked, they played most of their games at home. They only got three home games left, either three or four. However they. @ least. But I didn't look. But on the road though, they've been competitive in every single game. 27, 29 lost the Bucks, 21, 27 lost the Dolphins. [00:31:52] Speaker A: What's, what's funny, Rome? If you go back and look at all those games against the Bucks and now the Bengals, they were getting crushed going into the fourth quarter. They were down, what, 27 to 6 going in the fourth quarter against the Bucks. Remember they got that blocked field goal for a touchdown. Eric lands out there doing the moonwalk. Yeah, yeah, remember? [00:32:11] Speaker B: And then they're down. [00:32:12] Speaker A: They're down what, 15 here against the, against the Bengals and come back and win. And this is basically three days after the owner basically said, justin Field sucks, shouldn't be playing quarterback. Now he gets the win. What are you going to do when Tyrod Taylor's ready to play? You going to go back to field on the bench? It seems like every time he wins, they just throw him on the bench in Pittsburgh, in New York, and when he loses, they go, hey, go back out there and give us another inning. I don't know what to make of the jets, man. For now on, I'm just going to flip a quarter and whatever side it ends up on, that's what side I'm going with because they've been screwing me More times than I can think of. But I am glad they did win in a way because they did eliminate 765 people in the circuit contest. So there was some silver lining at the end of that. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Nice. Who'd you go with again? [00:32:54] Speaker A: Patriots, man. [00:32:55] Speaker B: Patriots. Nice. What do you think about for next week? [00:32:59] Speaker A: Next week's easy, man. To the packers or the Rams? One of the two should get. Both teams got easy W's, I believe. [00:33:05] Speaker B: Rams face the Saints, packers facing the panthers. [00:33:09] Speaker A: I think 80. I think 85, 90% of the remaining field is going to be on one of those two teams. [00:33:13] Speaker B: Really? [00:33:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I'll have to look and see if there's other games, but I think that's. I mean, I think the other team, I might say, I think I'm saving them for week 10 against your Steelers. But the Chargers against the Titans would be another enticing game. But I usually stay away from road teams and survivor just now. [00:33:28] Speaker B: No, that's fair. All right. I guess I'll do it for week nine. Week nine. Week eight. [00:33:36] Speaker C: Eight. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Week eight, the Ocho. I guess I'll reveal my updated power rankings right now. [00:33:45] Speaker A: By the way, game here, Rome. Before you get to your power eight, we got a man rounding third here. [00:33:49] Speaker B: Really? Oh, you're a few seconds ahead of me, man. [00:33:51] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah. Don't say it. [00:33:54] Speaker B: Damn it. Dude. So they get a hit right now. Oh, wow. [00:34:01] Speaker C: No, the pitch is about to happen for me. [00:34:03] Speaker B: I just saw it. [00:34:04] Speaker C: I'm still. The pitch is happening right now. Okay. It's down the line. [00:34:08] Speaker B: Oh, that's a nice throw. Oh, my God. That was so nice. This game's stressing me out, man. I need a shot. [00:34:17] Speaker C: Wow. He wasn't even close. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a big guy. [00:34:22] Speaker B: He was hustling. You kind of got it, though. It's the World Series. You're an extra innings. He went for it. I probably went a little too wide. It's not that big. All right, so power rankings going to week nine. Not much has changed at the top since we had, I think, like four of the five teams on bye weeks. But number eight, they drop a few spots. But it's the Seahawks. They're on a pie. But it's because we. We got a few additions for this week. We had to drop the Niners. And now the packers make their way into the power rankings after a lot of. What do you call that? Whatever Aaron was doing, like a little. [00:35:01] Speaker A: A lot of internal discussions we had earlier today, Rome, to try to get some of these teams into the Power eight. [00:35:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:08] Speaker B: So packers going to number seven. Patriots raise up one to number six. Number five through one, there's no change. We got the Eagles at five, Bucks stay at four. Rams day at three. Lions stay at two. Colts stay at one. With the victory. So not a lot of movement. That is it. We will see where the Bills or the Chiefs end up after next week. Climb. Imagine I'll have to put one of them back in there. [00:35:37] Speaker C: And I gotta tell you, Rome, you may. You may not have done the hot seat for NFL coaches, but this Blue Jays third base coach should be on the hot sheet. Vlad was on deck. [00:35:46] Speaker B: Oh, really? Oh, dude, that's. That's. [00:35:48] Speaker A: I mean, both teams have had a lot of base blunder errors in this game. [00:35:51] Speaker B: Oh, dude, the dogs. [00:35:52] Speaker A: I mean, I think I've seen what, at least half. At least five guys thrown out either home or third base in this game. [00:35:58] Speaker B: The daughters have looked like the Yankees last year, like just uncharacteristic bad fielding, some errors. But it is what it is. Yeah. Let's do it for the NFL. Giddy up, giddy up. Time for a little F1 coverage. I don't know why I said giddy up, giddy up, but couldn't say kickoff. Green flag, starts your engines. We're gonna cover. [00:36:24] Speaker C: It's lights out and away we go. Rome, come on. [00:36:27] Speaker A: I think. I think. I think we should just have Jason do the intro for the F1 segment once we start. I mean, he's got it down pat. He's ready. [00:36:35] Speaker C: I'm just ripping off crofty from the F1 broadcast, but, man, every time, every time. [00:36:40] Speaker A: I mean, giddy up, giddy up. Am I at the horse horseback show here or what? [00:36:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess he thought he was doing the. The. The Preakness coverage right now. [00:36:50] Speaker A: Kentucky Derby's back in May, so. [00:36:52] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. Yeah. Anyways, I don't know why I looked up F1 Austin, but we just had the Mexican Grand P this past weekend. Auto dro Hermanos Rodriguez. I think my favorite track. It's a really cool track. Out of all the. All the races I've seen so far, that might be my favorite track. How about you guys? [00:37:10] Speaker C: No, I agree. I think it's one of. One of my favorites. Hasn't always proved to have the best races, but there's just some real cool aesthetics in that, I think. Turn one, obviously, great drama on. On the start. It's got the really long stretch. You know, you go in the turn, run turn one, and then after turn three, another Drs zone after that you got a nice, you know, horseshoe loop and then the stadium section. Probably one of the more unique things in an F1 track where, you know, it's kind of like an old soccer stadium that they put. Basically put an F1, you know, track in the middle of it right at the end. So. Yeah, one of my favorites in the calendar every year. Rome too. I think just aesthetically it's really cool. And then obviously the elevation in Mexico City, you know, leads a, you know, different type of race. [00:37:53] Speaker B: It's very picturesque. P. Picturesque. I can't talk anymore. Picturesque. Picturesque. [00:37:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Is that it? Yeah, it. It was really beautiful. I liked how even like the track. Yeah. Like the stands and like the track cutting between like several sections d different angles, the grass, like how a lot of drivers just went off the track themselves. Created like a lot of drama. It all started in lap one though, by the way. Lando Norris just dominated, man. This whole thing was up to like 28 seconds. Both pit stops. He had like 20 seconds plus so was able to pit, come out, no problem. Left a few guys at the end. He just had a great race. So now the driver's championship. He has a, what is it, a one or two point lead. [00:38:37] Speaker C: He's got a one point lead right now. So, yeah, I think we just get into that room. I think we talk more about the race. I do want to talk about, talk about Lando. So we had our. We had our mid season F1 recap, you know, with the three of us. And we had, we had our guest on Rome, you and I. If we're talking who's on between Team McLaren, you, you and I were team Lando. Aaron's been team Piastri. And Aaron was looking really good on team Piastri there. Post the break, Lando had the engine blow up in Netherlands. And it just seemed after that one man, the McLarens were so dominant, you know, it just didn't seem like there was anything that was. Was going to stop them from having, you know, one. Excuse me, having one two, one two finishes. And then the McLaren as we talk back has just taken huge steps back here. And now Piastri hasn't been great. And Lando seemingly found, you know, something these past couple weeks and this was the dominant performance. He really needed to get those extra points. And like you said, I mean, he didn't even do FP1. This was a big race for a lot of the younger drivers in FP1 that were coming out and getting their, you know, rookie testing kind of in. So he comes in FB2. And released at that point, dominated the entire weekend. Set the high qualifying pace. And Lando's big thing had been bad starts and. And obviously we just talked about turn one. We'll talk about more a little bit. But, you know, he had a solid start. Held off both Ferraris and Max. And then once he was in the lead, you know, he just, like you said, there was no one catching to him. And this is the kind of dominant performance you need. And now with four races to go in two sprints, you know, he's got all the momentum behind him, and it turns into a toss up into him and Piastri, where Piastri's just been reeling because it hasn't. There's been a lot of controversy on team decisions and whatever it may be. However, like, Pastry hasn't shown up in these past couple races, just purely in qualifying where he's putting himself behind the eight ball. And this was a perfect example of it. I mean, he fell back to, I think maybe 11th at a certain point on that first lap. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I think around 11th. Yeah. [00:40:44] Speaker A: He was between nine and 11, I think. [00:40:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:46] Speaker A: First 10 laps of that race before he kind of maneuvered in and finished what, fifth? [00:40:52] Speaker B: It was. Yeah, it was really good play calling. I guess that's what I'm gonna call it. When he pitted with everybody else and. And, well, he was stuck and they pitted, what, like, in 2.6 seconds. Got out ahead of everyone else, and then that kind of led him up to fifth. Got really close to Bearman and had a chance, but it was like that really iffy caution at the end, where even, like, the announcer's like, I want to see replays of, like, where this debris is. Because no one really believed it should have been called at all. And that kind of helped LeClaire keep second and not have Verstappen pass him up. Baron holds on to four, and Piastri, if he would have went up to fourth, he. He would have had the one point lead. Right? I believe. But now he's one point back. [00:41:33] Speaker C: Yeah, a lot to impact there. And I think number one, the pit stops you mentioned, like, Mercedes dropped the ball in the pit stops. Cause they totally let both of those guys down, like, over a second more than the McLarens in the pit stop. So, yeah, Antonelli lost the spot to. To Piastri. So kudos to the McLaren team because they got him that position without having to get it on the track. He probably got it anyways. But I think getting ahead of him, not wasting Getting ahead of Antonelli, not wasting that time. It, it made him to potentially be competitive to get to Bearman. I thought it was interesting that they even pitted, I mean, for Bearman. I don't know if he could have held off Max, but he was in a position. If he would have just went with the one stop strategy, you know, and kind of held on to the ends. Could he have held off Max and got a podium? Podium would have been Hosta's first podium in their history. [00:42:17] Speaker B: They were talking about that. [00:42:18] Speaker C: Yeah. And so I was very. I mean, it just seemed really weird that they were going to the two stopper where you, you, you saw these other guys were all in on the one stop strategy from the, from the jump or Lando. I think Charles and, and Max definitely the, the Red Bulls are definitely on that one stop stop. So when, when that kind of group went with the Mercedes and Oscar, I was like, man, I was like, we're gonna, we're gonna do this too. I don't think there's enough time to even catch, you know, Max, let alone, you know, pass him at a certain point. And yeah, there was a lot with the strategy in that race. I think overall it was a fantastic result for Bearman in that team. But the, the drive from Max as well too, because man, like one stop strategy takes those medium tires to the limit and then goes. I don't know, what do you go 30 laps on the softs or something like that? [00:43:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:09] Speaker C: And. And was still, you know, gaining on Charles there at the end with kind of the superior tire. And without the, you know, the, the virtual safety car that you talked about. I think it was less debris is more. It was like with Carlos. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Carlos signs a car that was like off track. [00:43:23] Speaker C: Right. [00:43:24] Speaker A: But yeah, hidden in a corner that wasn't, you know, like backed up. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah, a high risk area. [00:43:29] Speaker C: I think it was signs, which was all sorts of crazy why that car was still racing too, because he, he didn't even have the pit limiter working on his car because he was. Got caught speeding in the pits because the pit limiter wasn't working and the car was bouncing up and down or whatever he was complaining about. So, I mean, the Williams are, the Williams are a weird bunch, man. I mean, they're locked in the fifth we talked about, but there's some races where that car is just crap. [00:43:49] Speaker B: Just what's up with signs? It seems like every race there's always like some penalty or something that he does and he's like, that's not my problem or like that, that's. He's always reflecting it off as like, it's everyone. Everyone else's issue but his. But I think that's every. I think that's got a couple infractions. Yeah. But I. It just kind of sticks out. It's always him, though. Like every race is always something about him cussing everyone else out. [00:44:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:12] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, Aaron's right. I think it's a little bit F1. [00:44:15] Speaker A: I mean, every, every effort. I mean, you had Russell like, hey, Verstappen just went on. He needs, he needs to give the spot back. He needs to get the spot back. [00:44:24] Speaker B: Right for like the first five. [00:44:28] Speaker A: I know we were talking about it. He was like, hey, hey, I got a McLaren up my ass. What do you want me to do? I got a McLaren up my ass. Get Kimmy out of my way. [00:44:37] Speaker C: He was all time, man. He said, Yeah, I got McLaren on my ass. And then asking his guy, do you want me to just let Piastri by or what? Like, just like, no, it's okay. And then, yeah, he's saying like, hey, let Kimmy pass me. I'll give him the position back if I can't, you know, catch Bearman or whatever it was too. And then, and then Antonelli, no shit on him. He immediately, as soon as Russell got passed by Piastri, he's like, we need to swap the positions back now. I mean, it wasn't even done. And he somehow saw like, give me my spot back. [00:45:08] Speaker A: Hey. It wasn't even like a two second delay. As soon as he saw, hey, we need to swap back. [00:45:14] Speaker B: Yep. [00:45:14] Speaker A: And then they didn't even put the Mercedes radio on. They're like, we'll let them handle that later. Let's go somewhere else. [00:45:20] Speaker B: That's right. Yeah, there. [00:45:21] Speaker C: There was some hilarious stuff. But yeah, George is on an Alzheimer because he gets so, like, passive aggressive, like, whatever. Just like that draw English like thing over the radio. These guys, I don't know how the hell these guys have this stuff when they're going 200 miles an hour or whatever they're doing. [00:45:37] Speaker B: It was just really funny hearing all the complaining in the beginning. I'm like, what? [00:45:40] Speaker C: Like, you know, I mean, it was wild. I mean, I was pissed as a Lewis Hamilton fan, whatever the hell was going on there. I mean, that. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you think it was fair getting that 10 second penalty? [00:45:51] Speaker C: No, I thought it was BS because, I mean, they're saying because he didn't go off the safety road. Yeah, but I'm like, okay, the safety road Looked like it was like three feet wide over. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Wait, wait. Did the safety road look like a, like a bike pathway? [00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that, that was it. [00:46:08] Speaker A: I watched the replay. I'm like, wait, where is the safety road? Is it that in the middle? What the hell is that? Why they don't want to go like do that. [00:46:16] Speaker B: And if you follow the trail, the safety road, you will just end up straight into the wall. I really don't know how you turn onto the track. It's just not that good. [00:46:23] Speaker C: Yeah, and I, and I felt like if he followed the safety roll, it puts him like at a 90 degree angle to oncoming traffic instead of a better merge and so. [00:46:31] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:46:31] Speaker C: And then to follow the safety, I mean, if they don't follow the safety rule, they go through the grass. Seemingly going through the grass actually hurt Lewis's car because I think he ripped up the bottom of the floorboard because they talked about, you know, some aerodynamic issues potentially because he wasn't really gaining anything. So he kind of did the, the more thing to detriment to his car. And so the advantage that he got that was worthy of a 10 second penalty was insane considering Verstappen just flies off the track on lap one and nothing for him, nothing like just didn't get back anything. And I know they were saying, okay, he was tied maybe a fourth at that point because you had, you had Lando, the two Ferraris and, and, and Verstappen, you know, all into that bunch and the two Ferraris and, and Verstappen were three wide and, and Max was saying, oh, I got pinched. I'm like, he made it 3 wide going into a tight turn, goes off road, doesn't give any of the time back. I think Russell was kind of accurate there. But then in another moment, like Hamilton's basically forced off the track. So I, I don't know. I didn't agree with the penalty, especially because there were so many other things that they didn't penalize in that race. But I, I do partially blame Ferrari because they should have told Lewis back it off and give some of the time back because, yeah, that was a. [00:47:43] Speaker B: Lot of criticism going on the, on the broadcast. [00:47:45] Speaker C: And they were absolutely right because he did shortcut it to a degree. But if he would have let off the gas and let them just back it up on them, got them within one second of the Drs, they could have made the, the argument to the stewards like, hey, he couldn't kind of maneuver it and get on the track, got back on, gave the Time back allowed people within, you know, within the one second. So I, I think that was mismanagement there, there's, there's too much of that crap where you stand on your principles, whether you. There, there was a time, I don't remember what race it was when like George Russell accidentally had the DRS open in a section he couldn't have and like he literally like. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Because he pressed the wrong button, right? Or something. [00:48:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Press the wrong button, open the drs and then literally like went off the gas at a certain point to give the advantage back. And so there's so much digital stuff on this they were able to see that he put, put off the accelerator and then he didn't get penalized or anything for it. So there could have been at this moment where, hey, Lewis gets ahead of them, gets these couple extra seconds, give that's back and he probably doesn't get the 10 second penalty. So you put that on Ferrari a little bit. But it was, I don't know, you go to the stewards in this crap all the time. You seemingly give away anything on lap one. That's kind of like the unwritten rule of like crap's gonna happen on lap one. Everyone's together, things happen, we let it kind of shake out. But when it comes to these tracks where just passing is so like difficult, like you're letting them potentially get this advantage that's almost makes it impossible to pass in a lot of instances. So I don't know, I mean that I think still irritated because like, I mean Ferrari had the car where Lewis should have been, you know, third on the podium, like, oh, he was doing pretty good. [00:49:16] Speaker B: Then they had that 10 second pit and then what, he dropped down like what, 14th or so and then finished with what was it, 8th? Yeah, that's unfortunate. [00:49:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Ferrari. I mean, yeah, to your point, I think he could have dropped back, but I think they solved. Verstappen did it. Nothing happened to him. So I think they were kind of, they were kind of hoping like, all right, well they're nothing. I mean I think Hamilton in the first lap was noted on three different incidents. You know, I think there was like a little tire bumping with maybe Verstappen or somebody and it's, you know, it's like, oh, noted, noted. Then later, nothing happening. Oh, further investigation going on. And then it was like, whatever. Lap 20 finally they announced like, oh, 10 second penalty for Hamilton. [00:49:56] Speaker B: So it's like that was crazy. [00:49:57] Speaker C: It was crazy. But I'll say like going back to the top of the segment Rome talking about the track and everything. I think it was a really exciting race considering Lando wins this thing by 28 seconds. And you didn't have much really into for the winning race, but ton of action, different strategies going on the race with some of these guys doing the one stopper. Even the, even the Red Bulls starting on the medium. I think Max starting in the meeting was. Was really interesting because he had the faster tire at the end of the race, the hard tire just being crapped or some of these guys start there and they weren't getting anything out of that. A lot of DNFs, too. That was kind of, you know, interesting with Hulkenberg. Alonzo Leo Lawson was out pretty early. [00:50:35] Speaker A: What happened with Lawson? I heard he almost. I read he almost killed like two people on the track running. [00:50:40] Speaker B: What, what. [00:50:41] Speaker C: I think that was during practice or qualifying. Like, I saw that today too. I missed some of the weekend and stuff. But yeah, there was. There was a official on the track or something like that that was on there when he was driving by, but. [00:50:52] Speaker A: One he almost hit because they're picking up debris during like a track run or something. [00:50:56] Speaker B: I missed that. [00:50:57] Speaker A: I just read up. I saw it today. [00:50:59] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. That's the dangerous stuff. You got all these virtual safety cars and stuff that when these guys run on the track to grab a piece of fiberglass and stuff. [00:51:05] Speaker B: But I thought it was like one of the more entertaining races. It was filled with a lot of stuff and it's kind of like the race for, like we, we were talking about the tight race for the constructors. 2, 3, 4. That's looking like it's going to be a lot of fun watching down the stretch. Now we got the drivers. So Norris is down in first, Piastri in second. Your boy Verstappen, he chips away a little bit more as well. So it's, it's, it's. I think I saw a stat. This is the first time that we've had a lead change this late in the season since 2012. [00:51:37] Speaker C: I, I would believe it. I mean, a lot of times you get down to this, the, you know, this point in the calendar, and someone's kind of sewn it up, especially when you get a lot of wins in a season. But these cars are just so, you know, so close at this point. The last couple races of this regulation where, you know, all top four of the teams when it comes to McLaren, Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes are very close. And, and Max, you know, I don't think he got all the points he needed out of this race, I think he needs is it 12 points a weekend right now to be able to make up his deficit. So I mean, it got a little thinner with Lando having such a dominant race. You have two sprints and four races. The next two races, I think is where Verstappen really is going to have to have, you know, the points kind of make up. Because a year ago in Brazil, he has one of the greatest drives of all time in the rain that we, that we talked about that was like, yeah, just, just amazing. So this is a track he can do well. I haven't looked at what the weather is going to be in Brazil, but I mean it would favor him and like Hamilton and like Alonso and some of these guys are just like unbelievable in the rain. So it'd be interesting track. It's not the high speed corner stuff. And Aaron and I have been predicting the George Russell win in Vegas here for a little while. But I think the Mercedes and the Red Bull in Vegas would be something to look out for. Not the best track for McLaren. I think the final two tracks in Qatar and Abu Dhabi are the high speed, flatter tracks that McLaren generally is better at historically. But now that they're getting. So I think those are the ones that McLaren's probably going to be good at. So what kind of going to in this is. Verstappen's got to make up some points here in Brazil and Las Vegas to give them the chance. But at this point, anything can happen. You got a straight duel between Norris and Piastri. Right now it's all basically tied up, you know, and not what's qualifying look like. Who's getting the favorable strategy. They've created an interesting problem for themselves in the McLaren. Like I said, the beginning of the season, this might be Lando's only shot to win a championship because the McLaren car is dominant. He's been with this team a long time from when they were one of the worst in the field and now the best. And then what does this car look like for 20, 26? You don't know. And Piastri's been the, you know, more of the stealth killer, although he's shown more of the kind of the, the emotional side and hasn't found his form recently. But you know, you don't, you don't win these things. I mean, some of the times a lot of F1 drivers, you're either like a seven time world champion or you got one championship and that was it. You know, James Hunt, Jensen, Button, you know, Nico Rosberg, One championship and all it is. And so these guys are going down to it. And I think the interesting question following the season, whoever doesn't win, assume one of the McLaren wins. I know Verstappen's lurking right now, but whoever doesn't win a McLaren, what. What are their feelings coming out of this season when their contract is up in a year or two or whatever? The Outlaws, because these guys, guys both want to be a number one. And if Lando wins, in the popular thinking around Formula One and fans and everything is that McLaren has been favorable to Lando. Zach Brown, McLaren CEO, he's, he's the second dad to Lando. This is the guy that he's kind of brought up all through things. And Piastri was team principal Andre Estella's guy. Oscar, he's got a manager, Mark Weber, who was the number two at Red Bull when they were winning a bunch of championships in the early, you know, 2010s, and he never got it. He was just the number two there. And so I think he's. There's always the things that he feels a certain way about what Piastri is going to be treated. So does he take Piastri elsewhere if the treatment isn't there and they don't have the car, when, hey, Red Bull has an open seat if Max Verstappen leaves, you know, Ferrari, if Charles LeClaire decides he's gonna leave, there's a lot of rumors around that. So there's gonna be some fallout of one of these guys not winning. And I don't know what the long term is if this guy's. These guys being the two drivers at. [00:55:44] Speaker B: McLaren, they just signed contracts, though. I think they're locked in for like, at least another three years. Right. So that's not, that's not something we're gonna see for a while. [00:55:52] Speaker C: It's fair. I think you're probably right. But at the same time, these Formula one contracts, you know, there's out clauses. [00:55:59] Speaker A: And also offset language. We've learned a lot this weekend. [00:56:03] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:56:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess you're right. His multi year extension takes him to 20, 28, so. Yeah. So it's out there. [00:56:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:11] Speaker C: So, I mean, maybe it's nothing. We've, we're kind of creating the drama on our podcast and others, too. But, you know, you're a competitive guy, man. You got to be across. You know, this is your teammate. And the team cares about winning. The Constructors, they did. And now it's who, who's the top dog? And you're going to be battled down. So the, the decisions McLaren makes here, down the stress would be very interesting how they manage these races because qualifying is going to say a lot on race strategy and priority. And you know, these guys are also. You start getting too aggressive with each other. Max continues to lurk. [00:56:44] Speaker B: So Brazil's in two weeks. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Yeah, the night, right, Check. I checked the weather shows rain. Yeah, 60 chance rain. So nice it looks like we'll have some rain. But yeah, going back, I mean, yeah, whoever, like Jason said, whoever wins between Lando and Oscar, you're the top dog, you get priority, you are the mainstay, you are the top driver. Unless, you know, one wins it this year, the other wins it the following year. But yeah, to Jason's point, we'll see what the McLaren looks like. But Lando's looking good, he's looking strong, he's racing well. Piastri just doesn't seem to have pace. He's not very, been very comfortable. He's not been doing good in qualifying. Can he, can he turn it around here with four races to go and like, you know, Jason said Verstappen's lurking. He just keeps winning. Second, first, third. If he can win, you know, if he could do another race like Jason mentioned in Sao Paulo, Brazil, where he wins in McLaren, kind of plays it safe with the weather being bad. Things get really interesting here. [00:57:41] Speaker B: 100 some stuff because it is the battle for second and the constructors. Now Ferrari is in second. 356. They had a pretty good race this past week. Could have been better if Hamilton didn't get so badly. Mercedes a point back at 355. Rebel racing nine points back at 346. You looked at fifth. We said Williams is kind of stuck there at 111, but they got the racing bulls. Do you think they can catch them with 72 points? Aston Martin's only three points back from them. And then you got Haas a few more points back from that. It's tight 2 through 4 and then tight 5 through 9. It looks like cheese. Alpine just stuck down below. [00:58:26] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, if you think a year ago, Alpine, they were in the same position, 10th, and then they got second and third during that, during that rain race. And that shot him up because it gave him like, you know, 20, 30 something points in one race. So I mean, you never know what happens in some of the, in the rain races. I think you're most primed to rain only in Brazil. And then you Got basically three races in the desert. But yeah, I mean, very tight there. Haas, great performance from Bearman and even OCON was in the top 10. So that makes them a little bit competitive for racing. Bulls haven't looked as, as great lately. Aston Martin, you know, some DNFs for them. So it'll be tight probably from that six through. I mean, actually six through nine. Rome, I mean, right? [00:59:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy, right? [00:59:11] Speaker C: It's. It's really there. So I mean it is. So I think, I think there's. There's definitely something within these finishes that can decide a lot and that's a lot of money from all those teams. Red Bull, I think even though Verstappen's there, man, Sonoda is just not giving them anything to help out. I mean, Max is basically almost doing this himself to a degree. Holding, holding that team up. So I mean, Ferrari probably has the advantage. They have probably the best pairing. [00:59:37] Speaker B: It looks like they're starting to do better down the stretch as well. Looks like they're going to end the season with like a good bank. [00:59:44] Speaker C: I think so. I mean, I think, I think Brazil is a great track for Hamilton historically that, you know, he can do well there, especially if it rains that. That will definitely go to what he can do. Vegas, I mean, I still think that's a Mercedes track. [00:59:58] Speaker A: Russell, right? Yeah. Gotta be the favorite to win that one. [01:00:01] Speaker C: I think it's the only race Aaron and I have been like a line calling for weeks on end before. [01:00:06] Speaker A: As soon as the odds come out, I'm gonna take a look at it before even qualifying. I might throw like 50 bucks on Russell just to try to get it in a good money. [01:00:13] Speaker B: That's why not. [01:00:15] Speaker C: So. But yeah, I think, I think Ferrari probably the favorite because I think they got two drivers versus Mercedes. They got, you know, they got Russell. Plus, you know, Antonelli's good, but he's gonna get up in the podium. And then Max is trying to pull Red Bull by himself. So I think Ferrari gets the advantage because they'll get two guys competing with, with top points. [01:00:33] Speaker B: Nice. Any other comments regarding the Mexican Grand Prix? [01:00:38] Speaker C: Just looking forward to Brazil. I think it'll be an exciting end of the season. The drama's heating up. [01:00:42] Speaker B: You know, one thing that kind of caught me by surprise, I know you try to pick somebody local, you know, like to give away like the trophy. Like they had a really cool trophy for this one. They had a Vander Holyfield. [01:00:55] Speaker A: Vander Holyfield's been making his rounds. He was there In Miami, too. I saw him. So he's been making his rounds throughout here on F1 Holyfield to give away. [01:01:02] Speaker C: The trophy or he's just a checkered flag. [01:01:05] Speaker A: He's a flag. [01:01:06] Speaker B: He was checking. Yeah. Check a flag. [01:01:08] Speaker C: The trophy is generally like, someone from the government. [01:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. [01:01:12] Speaker C: Where it's at, so. [01:01:13] Speaker B: But still, like, I thought they might get, like, some rising Mexican soccer star or like a boxer, maybe one of the mafia people. I don't know. [01:01:22] Speaker C: The cartel. [01:01:24] Speaker B: The cartel, Yeah. [01:01:25] Speaker C: I mean, I think. I think it'll probably take whatever's the biggest celebrity they can get, so. [01:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:31] Speaker B: All right. I loved it, man. I loved it. I totally put it on. And kicked football off for the first time. [01:01:38] Speaker C: We talked about this, Aaron, I think before you got on, but just overall, like Rome not knowing anything about F1, you know, over a year ago, similar with you two. And like, now he's kicking football off the main TV to watch the Mexican GP this last weekend. [01:01:52] Speaker B: Well, it didn't help that I was losing a lot of bets, so. [01:01:56] Speaker A: Hey, you're going three and nine. I'm not watching a lot either. I was just like, Lando's is only bright spot this weekend. Let's just be honest. Maybe the comedy stuff too. I don't know how that went, but yeah. [01:02:07] Speaker B: Oh, dude. It went really well. Went really well. Got some people asking for my Instagram afterwards, like, oh, where are you gonna perform next? I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, it's all new, but it went pretty well. All right, so I'll do it for F1. I did speak to our friend Andrew the other day. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Did he. Did he show up the Mexican Grand Prix since he's studying all that Spanish. [01:02:30] Speaker B: He invited me to go watch it. I didn't show up. They didn't show up to my comedy. So I'm like, you know, go yourself. But he did want to come back on the show. It looks like he's back on good spirits. So I forgot to invite him tonight. I think I was supposed to toy slipped the ball. [01:02:47] Speaker C: Four races left to go, Rob. We got plenty of time and plenty of drama to talk about to get Andrew back on here. [01:02:52] Speaker B: Exactly. Cool. I'll do it. F1 with source from the sofa. Check us out on YouTube. We are out. All right, this is some extra bonus coverage from Source from the Sofa, as we're not going to fully talk about what happened in College football. Week 10, I believe. Was it what, nine? [01:03:17] Speaker A: Nine. [01:03:18] Speaker B: Week nine. Starting to get confusing here, though. [01:03:20] Speaker A: But good news, one more than call. It's always one more than the pros. [01:03:24] Speaker B: We did well on our picks this past week. We rebounded nicely from games of the week. We win seven, three and one, guys, which brings us to 60 wins with 47 losses and three pushes. That is money. We knew we were good, but we're tracking it. We're pretty good. So props to you, Aaron. That is phenomenal as well. [01:03:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, the one game, the one game we pushed on, if you were fortunate like Jason and got that hook with Mississippi State plus seven and a half, you. I'm happy for you guys. You know what? [01:03:59] Speaker B: I'm glad. I was really shaky about the UCLA game. I was like, the points I have a feeling they're gonna get. People I know that's part one, your locks of the week. And I was like, I don't think so, Rome. [01:04:08] Speaker A: I put that loss on you. You wore the jersey. Don't ever bring it on. I mentioned that Wednesday. I said, you either good luck or bad. Jason divorced jersey. They haven't won. Now a UCLA jersey we were talking about. [01:04:22] Speaker B: Every time I wear a jersey, that's why I don't wear my team jerseys, they lose terribly. And then I was rocking the UCLA thing for the. For the college football show. And yeah, they got beat. Soundedly. [01:04:35] Speaker C: So, yeah, I mean, you and all my friends that are UCLA fans really were selling us on. On UCLA being back with this new regime and everything in, man, you know. [01:04:45] Speaker B: Indiana, Indiana put a beat down and. And you know what? After that Penn State game, they've done okay, but, like, the offense hasn't really, like, come out and perform like that ever since then. [01:04:55] Speaker A: It's. [01:04:55] Speaker B: It's, you know, they're making strides, but, yeah, a little too much love. So they lose their. So they lose their first conference game of the year. We also did well on our Westgate super contest, so we're back in the top 100, confident we'll make some more movement in the coming weeks. So it's been pretty well for college football. It's been really nice. But in surprising fashion, though, we're actually bringing the bonus coverage because I'm going to say Chip Kelly and it's not Brian. [01:05:26] Speaker A: I know you're thinking about Brian, right? [01:05:28] Speaker B: I couldn't get on my head now because Jason said earlier, I'm like, ah, no, Brian Kelly. Jason, text us that they're talking about, like, your season's done, bro. Which is like a weird precursor to getting fire. Like, okay, sorry. Getting fired. At the end of the season, we're getting fired. Now. No, you're getting fired now. They also let the top assistant coach go today, which he was pretty instrumental with helping Jaden Daniels win the Heisman. I, I can't remember his name, but he's Joe Sloan. [01:05:53] Speaker A: Joe Sloan. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Joe Sloan really well respected. So that was kind of surprising. Well, probably because he's like a right hand man for Kelly, so I guess so. [01:06:00] Speaker A: But apparently I will say Rome from what I heard that. And maybe Jason, you can jump in. I think Brian Kelly met with the AD on Saturday or Sunday morning and they were going to get rid of. He wanted Joe Sloan gone, so Kelly was going to move off him. But also the offensive line, offensive line coach Kelly wanted to get rid of 2. I guess the ad had a problem with that. I guess he was kind of the fill in intern for a while there back in 2021 when Ed Orgeron got let loose. [01:06:30] Speaker B: Oh. [01:06:31] Speaker A: So that was kind of where they had a disconnect. I heard the AD stormed off and you know, calls boosters the governor involved. I mean the governor literally get involved because they don't have a school president. Hey, how are we going to come up with this money? As they say in Louisiana, we'll find a way. And yeah, Brian Kelly shown the door. A lot of, lot of interesting stuff. [01:06:52] Speaker B: Going on down there that's surprising. And obviously it was made a big deal when he got hired away from Notre Dame to go to lsu. I found out earlier today that he was initially thinking about leaving Notre Dame and retiring. He was kind of done with the college game, maybe thinking about going to the pros. So the fact that LSU kind of hit him at a time when he was thinking about bouncing out anyways with so much money he does a hop, skip and a jump and starts collecting that fake bayou accent. And that's what started his tenure at lsu. Start off pretty well, but was kind of shaky with having some pretty big losses. Fans have been clamoring for him to get fired starting with their first loss loss of the season. So I'm not really sure. I don't really know any LSU fans personally. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. But the rumor is just like the confidence was lost on Chip Kelly early in the year already and it just got worse with every, I don't know, every loss that they've endured this year. So the coaching carousel is going crazy. Kind of Ibnaly like the NFL in college football. Who knows what will be the final remainder buyout for him. But it is rumored that he's going to be receiving $800,000 a month in the meantime, so we'll find more from that. But initial thoughts, reactions from. I would say the biggest firing so far this year. [01:08:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I'd say biggest firing. I think maybe Aaron, Aaron's guy in Florida State, maybe that could be pretty big here coming up too. [01:08:23] Speaker A: That's coming. That's coming. It could happen Sunday too if they lose the Wake Forest. Yeah, it's, it's on the horizon. It should have already happened and I. [01:08:32] Speaker C: Still don't know because I think the James Franco one honestly was bigger because I agree Penn State going into this season. Oh, championship. Yeah, they were seeing his championship. I think LSU was predicted to do better, potentially win the sec, be one of the teams in the playoff. And so I think this was supposed to be, hey, they didn't have to go undefeated or anything. But I think getting into the playoff was probably a must for Brian Kelly going in this season. But it was never a good fit. I think everyone who said it immediately said it wasn't a good fit. I'll say like Notre Dame had probably mixed feelings about Brian Kelly through his entire tenure because he came as a coach from Central Michigan that hey, he won at Central Michigan translated into to the Cincinnati job, goes undefeated at Cincinnati. He goes 12, 0. Translate that into the Notre Dame job. He gets Notre Dame 12 and 1 to the BCS National Championship game. But by 2016 he lost the program and Notre Dame went 4 and 8 that year and he was almost getting fired and, and there was times in that I want to say that, you. [01:09:40] Speaker B: Know, that I forgot about all that. [01:09:42] Speaker C: Yeah, there was times with the BCS national championship you mentioned him retiring or whatever. I mean there was tons of talk of him going to the pros. Like he was always linked to like the Giants job and, and different stuff in New York. And so there was always that with him, even who's at Notre Dame that excuse me, that he was going to go to, to a bigger job and you know, he almost loses his job at Notre Dame, you know, kind of changes his style because he's a pretty, I don't know, edgy, rough around the edges type coach as far as, you know, getting in players faces and just. [01:10:12] Speaker B: Overall I heard he's an. [01:10:14] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. Putting it probably what it is. I mean there's, there's a great story. I think it's Robert Sala and head coach of the Packers, Matt LaFleur. Yeah, they were on his coaching staff at Central Michigan and I think there's This, I think there's this whole thing, this story about the baby basically having some sort of Christmas party. And these guys were like graduate assistants or something and they thought they were invited to the Christmas party, but no, they were brought over there to like work and park people's cars. [01:10:47] Speaker B: Wow. [01:10:48] Speaker C: So I think there's been a whole thing where these guys have kind of talked through of like this isn't the type of head coach we want to be type thing. And I think he's always kind of had this reputation, Brian Kelly, as far as, you know, not being the nicest guy. And you know, it comes to a lot in college. These guys like demanding backed and discipline. And I think Marcus Freeman probably the exact opposite. There's like a motivator type coach where these guys really, you know, they're going to run through a brick wall for the guy. And Brian Kelly just wasn't that. And I think it was kind of shocking when he left Notre Dame a little bit because they, you know, they were 11 and one in that season. You know, they were, they were seen to, you know, go to another, you know, to the next level. And you know, he leaves for LSU because all this, how many could be for national championships? And it's looked. Notre Dame's success has probably made it even look worse because he says, I'm leaving Notre Dame to compete for a national championship. And Notre Dame actually does play for the national championship. [01:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:41] Speaker C: And, and Kelly just never was a fit, whether it was culturally. You mentioned him faking the, the bayou accent down there and he just didn't. [01:11:50] Speaker B: Seem like an LSU guy either way. Right. He just. [01:11:53] Speaker C: No, it didn't, it didn't seem, it didn't fit. I mean just overall a guy from the northeast that coach did, you know, Midwest, Northeastern teams and fitting in in the sec, you know, I don't, I don't think it was there. So I don't know where his future goes as he stay in college or you mentioned you talk pros. I'd imagine, you know, people are done. I don't think so. These guys are the, the coaching carousel goes around. You're gonna have like, like your UCLA Bruins, Wisconsin, you know, one of these other schools that has one of these opens in in a big conference, you know, pay him. He may not get the LSU money, but I don't know. I think you find he finds his way back to be redeeming. I mean you got, you got what's his face in, in Arkansas right now for his second tour in Arkansas as interim coach. So These guys always find their way back. [01:12:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, Brian Kelly, to put it like you said. Roman Jason, like, personality wise, he's a dick, right? It's, you know, hey, this is how I do things and this is how I want it done. And look, that worked in college football while back, but now you got nil. You got social media. Kids, you know, post stuff, they go, hey, you know what? This guy's an. I can go somewhere else and get paid the same amount of money or more and get treated better. And just. He never bought into the culture there at LSU like he came there. I mean, he won at LSU, don't get me wrong. I mean, he won, what, 10 games? 10 games, nine games, and what, five this year? I mean, you look at his losses this year as it gets to the number three, what, five and nine ranked team. So, I mean, he's lost the three teams in the top 10. Jaden Daniels, you mentioned was a good college quarterback, got there. Joe Sloan, QEB coach, turns oc. They turned him into a Heisman winner. But that offense, they have roster problems. I mean, defensively, they were not good the first couple years under Kelly. They're. They're a lot better on the side this year. Offensively, their O line sucks. They're playing a lot of freshmen. Guys that transferred in are either hurt or just not performing at a high level. They can't run the ball. They're situationally bad everywhere. And Texas A and M is a really good football team. And Marcel Reed's probably the front runner for the Heisman, if not this year, next year. He's a really special quarterback. [01:14:06] Speaker B: Yeah, he's really. [01:14:07] Speaker A: And they just got, they got manhandled by him and they did last year down there at Texas A and M. Yeah. So, I mean, Romy said you're not sure if he's going to work. I think he's going to work because he, I think he's already come out and said he wants a coach again and there's going to be a ton of jobs open. Wisconsin's going to open up. Michigan State's likely going to open up. We know UCLA is open. Penn State's open. Matt Rule leaves, Nebraska opens up. You don't think Nebraska would like a coach like Brian Kelly coming there to win? I mean, Brian, I, I said, Brian Kelly can go to Florida State because he's good for eight to ten wins every year. And a lot of these mediocre programs need that right now. You're 65 years old. Come coach five years, maybe you hire Another hot shot coach because I will say this about Brian Kelly. He's brought in great talent in, but he's also brought in great coaches. He brought in Marcus Freeman, Mike Elko, Clark Lee. All these guys have been defensive coordinators from at all his stops and now they're excelling all in the top 10, basically in college football. Head coaches running elite programs. So he knows how to find talent through coaching and whatnot. Yeah, he just hasn't have great relationships with them. I don't know if it's like an Eagle thing where like, hey, I'm older, I'm smarter, I know the things what I'm doing and I taught you. That's kind of his problem. But I, I think if you're a program, I know he won't go to ucla, but like Wisconsin, that is won a lot and now is really in the dumps. Why not go get Brian Kelly and get back to eight, nine wins become respectable. [01:15:28] Speaker C: Yeah, especially you look at you, you mentioned Wisconsin, but you go to some. The Big Ten is pretty competitive, but the Big Ten is also so big where you, you know, people question Indiana, you get the right schedule, you win, you win eight, nine games almost pretty easily. If you're, if you got some, you know, solid talent and you got a disciplined program, you know, the Big 12, man, if those are one of those programs, some wide open, you know, stuff within that conference is pretty balanced. I don't know which jobs you'd be. [01:15:55] Speaker A: I mean, Oklahoma State, are they going to commit the money? I mean, that'd be a good landing spot, but you got to commit money. Brian Kelly's not going to go unless you have the resources and commit the money. [01:16:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I, so the rumor mills are already going around. Aaron, I don't know if you want to share who you think might be good prospects for the LSU job. I was hearing that there's a lot of interest and mutual interest with Dan Lanning. [01:16:21] Speaker A: Dan Lenny was a guy no LSU would reach out to. He'd be on top of their list. I know they'll probably reach out to Marcus Freeman and from what I'm hearing through the grapevine, he's not dismissing it. But all these guys are just looking for that next big contract extension at Notre Dame and Oregon and they'll get it. Dan Laning's not leaving Oregon. I mean, you know, he's got everything he wants there. LSU, I, for me, I think LSU's top target should be Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. That would be my number one guy to go get. He's only making 3.7 million. I looked up at Vanderbilt. Is Vanderbilt going to commit seven and a half, $8 million to keep them and give them like a 80 million 10 year contract with a $60 million. I don't see Vanderbilt doing that. Yeah, I could see LSU easily stepping up to the plate and giving them you know, $9,054,000,000 contract over six years. Another name I'd like to I mentioned would be Brett Keys, Georgia Techs head coach. What he's done with that program, kind of how he fits in culturally, the toughness. Yeah, I think he fits in at LSU because to me he's a younger, better version of Ed Orgeron who was already there without the partying and all the stuff that he had going on. Those would be my two lead candidates for LSU right now that realistically I think take the job. [01:17:36] Speaker B: LSU has done well when they hire guys like that. If you remember Sabin, he was kind of like unknown but had some success at prior spots. That's when he blew up the coach that follow him after that same thing. That makes a lot of sense. [01:17:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it was Les Miles, they got him from Oklahoma State and Sabin, you know, solid success at Michigan State. You think about it. Saban, I think he had questions when he was at Michigan State and then eventually came over, you know, got that program in the right direction and got there. So yeah, I think Aaron listed off a lot of great contenders. I don't think Dan Lanning, that checkbook is wide open at Oregon and if, you know, if I'm Dan Lanning I, you know, I don't. You have, you have the resources to win a national championship in Oregon. So I don't know why you leave to go do that job. I mean the Phil Knight money is good money and in the Big Ten right now they, you know, they're, they're at worst what the second best team in the, in the Big Ten right now behind Ohio State. So you know that's, that's a good job and the Oregon continues to be a good job. I don't see LSU being a much, a much better job than that to go and have to play that schedule. I think Aaron's, Aaron's call for Vanderbilt's coach. I think it is a, is a great call. I mean college basketball or college football. Could I say basketball. You're, I don't know what happened to Rome right now. Sorry, I'm still on. It was a, it was a double. I see a double. Is that okay? [01:19:00] Speaker B: All right, all right. They don't have anybody left on their, on in their bullpen. I think the Dodgers, it's got to be like a position player next. They have to get it here. Go ahead. [01:19:14] Speaker C: I don't even know where I was at Rome, but I think Aaron just listed off some good names, I'm sure. Yeah, I think, I think the ties to the south, he said, with head coach of Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech makes sense because, you know, hey, the cultural aspect of, in that, in that area of the country, knowing in the recruiting, I mean, that was kind of the biggest thing with the biggest thing. But one of the things with Brian Kelly, like the recruiting aspect of having go down to LSU versus what you were doing with an entire career that was in the Midwest, you know, very different. I don't know if you'd have the same questions about a Dan Lanning type thing, but you know that you got, you got to think of where it's the recruiting base of these guys and who they're going to bring in and, and the resources are there. And you know, LSU is going to have the research, but the, the SEC is only getting harder because you got schools like Vanderbilt and, you know, all these others making it more competitive. Now Texas A M, like Aaron and I, I, I, I since last year, kind of been on the A M bandwagon a bit right now. And Elko's got a team right now that, hey, that's, that's turned into a heck of a program because he turned Duke into a really good team that was competitive. And now, you know, they got a lot of resources in Texas A and M. It doesn't make a slam dunk to be one of the four SEC teams that are going to the playoff every year. [01:20:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I think, you know, we've touched on it. Jason has with this nil money. The days of just loading up rosters are over. And I think fans now and all these power conferences have to have a realistic what's going to happen right? There's not going to be every year, lsu, Alabama, even Georgia's getting by with some of these close games where they're going to be in the playoff every year. Heck, Texas was preseason number one. They're in the top 25 now, but this isn't a top 25 team. They're not going to the playoff. You know, they're not anywhere near one of the top four, five, six teams in the SEC this year. Does that mean next year they won't be? So, I mean, it's, it's difficult. The conference is extremely tough. I Think you have to have real expectations. Like, do you want to go there with the idea? Like, you've got to win every year. You got to make the playoffs. Like, that's. That's tough to do. [01:21:12] Speaker B: It's tough. [01:21:13] Speaker A: And, you know, Brian Kelly, I mean, it was interesting because obviously A and M beat him bad. And then there was another comment that was brought up. Obviously, they lost Bryce Underwood to Michigan, the number one recruit who was originally committed to LSU. Michigan ponied up to 10 million. LSU didn't. So you traded 10 million for 50 million now. And if you had a kept and gotten Underwood, the likelihood of Brian Kelly getting fired was probably not going to happen because you'd be worried about Underwood transferring out of the program. So I think for a lot of these coaches now, they're going to be tied kind of like the NFL. You're going to be tied to these pot prospects coming in at quarterback to where like, hey, I got the guy. Jaden Daniels, maybe he's saved. Maybe he saved Brian Kelly. And now that he's not there, the wheels have kind of fallen off. And Bryce under was supposed to be that other savior. And that's what. [01:22:06] Speaker B: Probably that's a little unfair because Portnoy from Barcel Sports, he was really big on that recruit to get him to Michigan. [01:22:13] Speaker A: So I think 10. $10 million talked Rome. [01:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:17] Speaker A: If somebody offered me $10 million to leave this podcast tomorrow, Rome, I love you, but I'm gone. [01:22:21] Speaker B: That's just. [01:22:22] Speaker A: It's just the bottom line. [01:22:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:24] Speaker C: I mean, you'd be going from no paycheck to $10 million. So I don't think we blame. [01:22:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that one. Yeah. [01:22:30] Speaker A: You know, you can't blame me. You can't blame my guy. [01:22:33] Speaker B: Remind me to send you guys contracts so I can represent you as talent. [01:22:37] Speaker C: Okay. [01:22:37] Speaker B: It's on my checklist. [01:22:39] Speaker C: This guy. This guy's trying to be one of the F1 team principals that, like, he's going to be our boss and our agent at the same time. So we're just. [01:22:46] Speaker B: That's all I want to do, really. [01:22:47] Speaker C: That. [01:22:47] Speaker B: That's actually my goal. [01:22:48] Speaker A: I think it's where he got the idea from. From. [01:22:50] Speaker C: Yeah, just gonna negotiate against himself. [01:22:52] Speaker B: He's. [01:22:52] Speaker C: He's gonna be total wolf representing George Russell in his negotiations with Mercedes. [01:22:57] Speaker B: All right, cool, man. So this game is the bottom 13th, but stressing me out. But yeah, we'll recap the rest of college football. Unless you guys have any other outstanding remarks for the coaching carousel or this past week, we're good to go. [01:23:13] Speaker C: I think we'll have more coaching carousel upcoming here. You know, Aaron's already called Florida State, couple other teams. [01:23:19] Speaker A: It's over, it's open. [01:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah, well, they said they're gonna probably fire them at the end of the season. Right. [01:23:25] Speaker A: Well, I mean it's. It's basically between. They're just loading the bases here between now and the next five weeks. I think if they, I think if they lose to Wake Forest, who's coming off a big win against smu, who would never lost in the ACC regular season conference game. I think Norville is probably gone this weekend. If they lose the Wake Forest, which interesting more than likely happens. I think now Florida State looks even more stupider because you've had Penn state pony up 50 million. LSU right away did. And you put out that stupid statement. If he does, if he lays another egg. I mean we saw how bad Stanford is. I mean Miami didn't even show up the first half and still covered a 30 point spread in that game. [01:24:03] Speaker B: Thank God. Yeah, I was nervous to the first half. I was like, oh man, come on. [01:24:10] Speaker A: Well, it's a good thing I told you Miami Rome, because Michigan got backdoored late by Michigan State and did not cover. So that, that really helped us out. [01:24:17] Speaker B: That was the worry. Those are my two picks. Yeah. So like all right, cool. I'll. I was fine with either one. But I did feel better about the Miami one though. [01:24:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:24] Speaker C: So. [01:24:25] Speaker B: Well, that's. That does it. For bonus coverage from source from the sofa catch NBA stuff later this week. We will go over the next week in college football on Wednesday with Aaron's games of the week. We'll do lines as well and. [01:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah, not quite there. Warning track. [01:24:47] Speaker C: I'm not gonna lie, it looked really good coming off the bat. I'm like, oh my God. [01:24:52] Speaker A: It did look good. [01:24:53] Speaker C: All the bases were loaded. It was a deep fly and it was caught. [01:24:57] Speaker B: I totally missed how I went from one out to two outs. [01:24:59] Speaker A: I'm like, they just intentionally walk bets and Otani. [01:25:04] Speaker C: Was it. Is it. You said the end of the 14th inning. [01:25:07] Speaker A: 13Th, right? [01:25:08] Speaker B: 13Th. Yeah. But I, I think when they showed the. They don't have much left on both bullpens. I think each one has like one left, if that. [01:25:18] Speaker C: I just. Well, I just got a text from a friend who's a big Mariners fan. Obviously he's a little salty and he just said both these teams suck. [01:25:31] Speaker A: Salt's been pretty nicely.